:00:16. > :00:20.transformed. Yesterday, I was just shaking all day. I just couldn't
:00:21. > :00:33.stop shaking. As wild storms battered the coast.
:00:34. > :00:38.As you can see, the wind's picking up every now and then. The heaviest
:00:39. > :00:45.rainfall for a century fell onto sodden land and the waters rose. I'm
:00:46. > :00:51.still in shock. I don't think it's hit me. For weeks, Panorama has been
:00:52. > :01:03.filming with the people living with the floods. Move back! Families
:01:04. > :01:07.driven out by the water. This is what flooding is really like. It's
:01:08. > :01:12.really just horrible and filthy and dirty. With so much of the country
:01:13. > :01:17.under threat, how do we decide what we protect? You experts, you
:01:18. > :01:22.flooding experts, get down here, get your waders on, get your dry suits
:01:23. > :01:25.on and get the data you need to help prevent this from happening again.
:01:26. > :01:31.Who chooses who gets saved and who gets sacrificed? We've been
:01:32. > :01:34.abandoned. Everything that's been done, we've had to fight to do
:01:35. > :01:40.ourselves. We're fighting to raise money. And, is the Government being
:01:41. > :01:43.straight about the choices we face? It's stupid politics. It's stupid
:01:44. > :01:57.politics not to tell people the truth.
:01:58. > :02:04.It's a cold February night on the Somerset Levels. And water is rising
:02:05. > :02:17.in the village of Moorland. Yeah, I mean, in here. Obviously,
:02:18. > :02:21.we've still got power running. What a work, we had power running, so we
:02:22. > :02:31.don't now, so, I guess that decides that we're definitely going tonight.
:02:32. > :02:39.We were with the emergency services as they try to keep people safe.
:02:40. > :02:45.Even their control area is starting to flood. And check those two
:02:46. > :02:56.properties, cos we can't confirm, and then come back to me, and then I
:02:57. > :02:59.can update comms. Hello there. Sorry to wake you up. I'm just
:03:00. > :03:11.double-checking. Are you still definitely staying in tonight? Not
:03:12. > :03:17.everyone wants to go. This is our dining room. Phil and Lana have
:03:18. > :03:22.lived here for 39 years. It's a disaster area, basically. This
:03:23. > :03:28.started this morning. Yes. And we've been bailing out with buckets first
:03:29. > :03:32.from about 7:30am. But as fast as Lana tries to get the water out,
:03:33. > :03:37.it's rushing back in, and rising all the time. It's coming through into
:03:38. > :03:39.the bathroom, this has happened approximately an hour ago, it
:03:40. > :03:47.started, it's completely covered now. The water from the Levels picks
:03:48. > :03:48.up slurry, contents of septic tanks, etcetera, etcetera, and so it's
:03:49. > :04:03.pretty unpleasant. It feels like a losing battle. This
:04:04. > :04:07.morning I got up and I felt sick, physically sick. Yesterday, I was
:04:08. > :04:11.just shaking all day. I just couldn't, I couldn't stop shaking.
:04:12. > :04:26.Sorry. Much of Moorland is under three feet
:04:27. > :04:47.of water. Louise Barnett lives down the road
:04:48. > :04:54.from Phil and Lana. Look at this. Just pictures, school photographs.
:04:55. > :04:57.This is what flooding is really like, just horrible and filthy and
:04:58. > :05:01.dirty. This poor woman's house is just underwater and she's saving
:05:02. > :05:07.what she can. Here's another bag, shall I take it? Yes, please. Are
:05:08. > :05:15.you all right? How are you feeling? Like I want to scram everything up.
:05:16. > :05:21.Yeah. The village has been turned into a different place. The water is
:05:22. > :05:26.dangerous and destructive. It's horrendous. Absolutely horrendous.
:05:27. > :05:39.I'm still in shock. I don't think it's hit me yet, personally.
:05:40. > :05:47.Jim Winkworth is a farmer and landlord of a local pub. He showed
:05:48. > :05:50.me around a landscape transformed. How long has that been like that?
:05:51. > :05:58.Well, the road's been closed since New Year's Eve. Right. So, it's a
:05:59. > :06:06.fair old time. There are villages here that have been underwater for
:06:07. > :06:09.nearly seven weeks. They don't care about us because they've kept
:06:10. > :06:12.Taunton dry and they've kept Bridgewater dry and they've kept
:06:13. > :06:15.Bristol dry and all this kind of stuff, but us few homes and
:06:16. > :06:22.businesses out here, we're not high on the agenda.
:06:23. > :06:27.It is true, not everybody can be defended. So, it's about choices,
:06:28. > :06:34.protecting the most people for your money, and here, that means
:06:35. > :06:37.protecting the nearby towns. So, how do they do that? Well, here, the
:06:38. > :06:44.rivers haven't burst their banks, the banks have been lowered to let
:06:45. > :06:47.the water pour out. This is a pumping station, and when the River
:06:48. > :06:51.Tone here reaches a certain point, when it gets too high, a spillway
:06:52. > :06:55.here diverts the water and plonks it on the land. The problem is the
:06:56. > :07:02.system completely falls apart when there's this much water.
:07:03. > :07:05.These new inland seas look dramatic, and they've washed through about 600
:07:06. > :07:14.homes. But this water didn't surge
:07:15. > :07:15.downstream, and that means 36,000 people in the nearby town of
:07:16. > :07:25.Bridgwater were protected. We do store some floodwater in one
:07:26. > :07:29.of the moors, which is designed to protect larger communities.
:07:30. > :07:33.Unfortunately, what has happened, given the amount of rainfall that
:07:34. > :07:35.we've had, is that that moor has then overflowed into other moors
:07:36. > :07:40.where there are communities, and regrettably, people have been
:07:41. > :07:45.flooded. So, villages on the Levels get flooded, in part as a
:07:46. > :07:51.consequence of protecting the town. The other part is the record
:07:52. > :07:55.rainfall. The south of England has had the wettest January in 250
:07:56. > :07:56.years, and nationally, since 2000, we've had four of the five wettest
:07:57. > :08:03.years on record. So, does that mean we should expect
:08:04. > :08:16.more extreme weather? It's very hard to make predictions
:08:17. > :08:18.on a near-term time frame when you're talking about climate change,
:08:19. > :08:23.which operates over decades, but what you can say is this gives us a
:08:24. > :08:27.sense of what there is to come, that if we don't do anything, we will be
:08:28. > :08:30.subject to increased risks of the kind of floods that we're seeing at
:08:31. > :08:35.the moment, and those that we would expect to happen more frequently.
:08:36. > :08:38.The chairman of the Environment Agency, the body that's responsible
:08:39. > :08:39.for fighting floods, says we're now facing tough choices because we
:08:40. > :08:49.can't defend everything. The Government usually relies on
:08:50. > :08:58.their advice. After all, they're the experts. But this time, the Prime
:08:59. > :09:02.Minister disagreed. There should not be a false choice between protecting
:09:03. > :09:08.the town or protecting people who live in the countryside. Why would
:09:09. > :09:12.the Government continue to say that it's a false choice between town and
:09:13. > :09:15.country? I really don't know. They were telling an untruth, they were
:09:16. > :09:19.not being clear about the policy, they were pretending that they could
:09:20. > :09:23.protect everybody. Can you see that it just sounds like, irrespective of
:09:24. > :09:25.the evidence, you're trying to say something that makes everybody
:09:26. > :09:29.happy? No, I don't accept what you're saying at all. Of course,
:09:30. > :09:31.you're still going to need to prioritise flood-defence projects,
:09:32. > :09:34.I've been clear about that, all I'm saying is you shouldn't exclude
:09:35. > :09:38.rural communities, and that's what the Prime Minister is saying. The
:09:39. > :09:41.Environment Agency says it has protected 1.3 million homes during
:09:42. > :09:47.these floods, like here in Tewkesbury in Gloucestershire.
:09:48. > :09:51.Back in 2007, this town was hit hard, and across the country, 48,000
:09:52. > :10:01.homes were flooded. This time, only 6,000 homes have
:10:02. > :10:02.been affected. Yet, in some areas, the Environment Agency is being
:10:03. > :10:14.blamed for some of the flooding. Here on the Levels, people are very
:10:15. > :10:18.much focussed on dredging. The belief is that if the rivers had
:10:19. > :10:27.been maintained, all this flooding wouldn't have happened.
:10:28. > :10:36.To dredge or not to dredge has become a national debate. The idea
:10:37. > :10:44.is if you make the river deeper by digging the silt out you can carry
:10:45. > :10:47.more water away. But faster, deeper rivers bring water more quickly from
:10:48. > :10:51.the hills into flood areas. The Environment Agency stopped routinely
:10:52. > :10:56.taking silt out of the rivers years ago. And in Somerset that decision
:10:57. > :11:03.is widely blamed for the flooding, and its consequences. I just can't
:11:04. > :11:07.keep going with the threat of that river and the flooding and the main
:11:08. > :11:12.road being closed. If you can't get people into the business than you
:11:13. > :11:15.won't hear the till ring. And who do you blame? I blame the Environment
:11:16. > :11:19.Agency. I believe if that dredging was done than this flood would never
:11:20. > :11:22.have started. I feel I've been abandoned. In the end, the
:11:23. > :11:26.Government listened to what Jim and his campaigners were saying.
:11:27. > :11:32.Dredging was back. A senior minister even apologised for listening to the
:11:33. > :11:36.Environment Agency. I'll apologise unreservedly. And I'm really sorry
:11:37. > :11:41.we took the advice of what we thought we were dealing with
:11:42. > :11:44.experts. It was a slap in the face for the Environment Agency and
:11:45. > :11:47.deeply demoralising for the workers I met on the ground.
:11:48. > :11:53.Environmentalists who know the Levels say the minister was wrong.
:11:54. > :11:56.The Environment Agency advice has been very clear on this for years
:11:57. > :12:02.that in many circumstances dredging will actually make situations a lot
:12:03. > :12:05.worse. What do you think of the criticism of the Environment Agency?
:12:06. > :12:08.I think it has been completely misplaced. The Environment Agency is
:12:09. > :12:12.being used as a political football by people who know an awful lot less
:12:13. > :12:16.about these issues than the Environment Agency people do. This
:12:17. > :12:19.weekend an independent study concluded that, given the volume of
:12:20. > :12:26.rain, dredging would not have stopped the flooding. There is some
:12:27. > :12:37.evidence it might help clear the floods more quickly. But experts say
:12:38. > :12:40.dredging is not the answer here. I absolutely understand the call for
:12:41. > :12:44.dredging from people who are angry and hurt and feel neglected. I mean,
:12:45. > :12:48.people are really upset. Now, under those circumstances, I understand
:12:49. > :12:51.exactly why they ask for dredging. And I understand exactly why
:12:52. > :12:57.politically they are promised it. But it wouldn't solve the problem.
:12:58. > :12:59.What do you think about the way the Government has treated the
:13:00. > :13:02.Environment Agency over the past week or so? Eric Pickles saying, "I
:13:03. > :13:05.thought we were dealing with experts?". I've worked closely with
:13:06. > :13:07.the Environment Agency since Christmas and they've worked
:13:08. > :13:14.incredibly hard in very difficult circumstances. And Eric Pickles has
:13:15. > :13:17.also said the same. So the first thing he said doesn't count anymore?
:13:18. > :13:20.Eric Pickles has praised the Environment Agency. Yes, after he
:13:21. > :13:23.criticised them, he said that first. Look, what I would say is Eric
:13:24. > :13:26.Pickles was basically reflecting some of the criticism that was
:13:27. > :13:32.coming, particularly in Somerset of the decision not to dredge. And he
:13:33. > :13:35.was picking up on that criticism. In spite of the expert advice, the
:13:36. > :13:43.Environment Agency is now about to dredge, just as ministers demanded.
:13:44. > :13:46.It's stupid politics. It's stupid politics not to tell people the
:13:47. > :13:50.truth. To take the easy way out, I'll give you lots more money, I'll
:13:51. > :13:56.do lots more dredging, I'll save you, I'm not persecuting you. In the
:13:57. > :13:59.long run it doesn't help. It's not only in Somerset that some people
:14:00. > :14:04.are protected and others left vulnerable. The crucial decisions on
:14:05. > :14:10.what will be saved are made long before the rain arrives.
:14:11. > :14:19.On the River Thames a ?110 million project is protecting more than
:14:20. > :14:23.3,000 properties. This is the Jubilee River and it's entirely
:14:24. > :14:25.man-made. And it takes the excess water that falls into the Thames and
:14:26. > :14:34.diverts it around Maidenhead. On a map you can see how the new
:14:35. > :14:39.river keeps flooding away from Maidenhead, Windsor and Eton. After
:14:40. > :14:44.the man-made river rejoins the Thames, villages are no longer
:14:45. > :14:51.protected and have been flooded. The money hasn't been spent on them.
:14:52. > :14:54.This is Wraysbury. And what I am standing in. This. This is the
:14:55. > :14:58.Thames. It's spilled its banks down there and there are now hundreds of
:14:59. > :15:04.homes, hundreds of families, that are in the water.
:15:05. > :15:11.Defending Wraysbury wasn't a priority. And locals say what makes
:15:12. > :15:18.it worse is they were offered no support when the water did arrive.
:15:19. > :15:22.We'll give you a road to go to, if you go with Mark now. When we met Su
:15:23. > :15:26.Burrows last Monday there wasn't much official help. She's an IT
:15:27. > :15:29.consultant who found herself tackling a major incident as a team
:15:30. > :15:38.of volunteers defended their village. This operation is entirely
:15:39. > :15:42.resident run. We are absolutely being sacrificed, we are being
:15:43. > :15:47.ignored. We feel left out. We do not exist in terms of the EA or anybody
:15:48. > :15:51.else. That same day Su managed to get her message to the very top. Mr
:15:52. > :15:56.Cameron. Get your waders on. Get down here now because we need you.
:15:57. > :16:00.We need the army, we need people, we need bodies. We are doing this as a
:16:01. > :16:05.community. Wraysbury will not go under. Wraysbury is on the Thames
:16:06. > :16:09.flood plain. New homes are still being built here despite the obvious
:16:10. > :16:15.dangers. In this village, three areas at risk of flooding have been
:16:16. > :16:18.proposed as sites for housing. Nationally around 20,000 properties
:16:19. > :16:24.a year are built on flood plains, about a fifth at significant risk.
:16:25. > :16:29.Bruce Gilligan's house is on the flood plain but it's built two feet
:16:30. > :16:38.off the ground to protect it from flooding. It wasn't enough. Once it
:16:39. > :16:42.breaches your home, that's what it is, it's your home... You know it
:16:43. > :16:45.just goes to another level. This is the first house that we've actually
:16:46. > :16:49.finished in terms of getting every room how we wanted it.
:16:50. > :17:01.The day after Su got Wraysbury on the television, the army arrived.
:17:02. > :17:05.The soldiers we saw turned up without wellies, but were put to
:17:06. > :17:12.good use making sandbags. A full scale rescue operation was now under
:17:13. > :17:18.way. 'There's a female requiring evacuation'.
:17:19. > :17:25.We know there are still people in risky areas that's four foot under.
:17:26. > :17:29.We know it's dropping slightly in areas, an inch, two inch down. But
:17:30. > :17:32.that's not feet, and it's still dangerous. The effort to keep people
:17:33. > :17:36.safe through such extreme conditions has left volunteers exhausted. But
:17:37. > :17:44.Su's efforts have won her some unexpected followers. You got a
:17:45. > :17:48.letter. "Sue Borrows, The Wonderful Lady of Wraysbury". That's all it
:17:49. > :17:54.needs to get to you. It's fan mail. It's money. "Dear Su, sitting
:17:55. > :17:58.watching the television I can only marvel at how wonderful you've been
:17:59. > :18:07.in all you've done for Wraysbury. You must have been so tired and
:18:08. > :18:10.still you kept going. As an old pensioner I can't help so really
:18:11. > :18:13.appreciate what you've done". Oh my God.
:18:14. > :18:17.Help may have finally arrived in Wraysbury, but residents are still
:18:18. > :18:22.wondering why they weren't protected.
:18:23. > :18:27.Could it have been prevented, this flooding? Not the rain. There must
:18:28. > :18:42.be something. Well, a solution was proposed. Three
:18:43. > :18:48.years ago, the Environment Agency approved another man-made river like
:18:49. > :18:53.the Jubilee. It would cost ?250 million. But protect 20,000
:18:54. > :18:59.properties, including the village of Wraysbury. That's almost seven times
:19:00. > :19:03.as many homes as the Jubilee River protects.
:19:04. > :19:11.But it may never be built because under new rules the Government will
:19:12. > :19:14.only pay half the costs. So the biggest undefended area of flood
:19:15. > :19:19.plain in England remains unprotected.
:19:20. > :19:22.The choices about what we do and don't protect aren't only about
:19:23. > :19:25.rivers. We've all heard about Cornwall. The
:19:26. > :19:47.main rail-line smashed at Dawlish. Enormous sea swells washing through
:19:48. > :19:53.the fishing village of Newlyn. And giant waves thundering into tiny
:19:54. > :20:00.harbours. But we haven't heard much about this place. The Norfolk
:20:01. > :20:08.holiday village of Hemsby. Yet this is what happened in December when it
:20:09. > :20:10.was hit by a storm surge. We all came running down here because
:20:11. > :20:14.everybody was scared and saying that the sea surge was taking people's
:20:15. > :20:17.houses away. We came running down here. We literally man-handled
:20:18. > :20:23.everybody's stuff out of the bungalows. This house that was here
:20:24. > :20:27.was tipping into the sea? Everything that was in the house on the floor
:20:28. > :20:31.that night dropped straight through into the sea and washed away. This
:20:32. > :20:36.is the moment that one house was taken by the sea.
:20:37. > :20:44.The tidal surge took 30 feet of the village of Hemsby and washed it
:20:45. > :20:51.away. Many of the houses here are built on sand dunes. If you look out
:20:52. > :20:55.here. All this sea you can see, until the night of the tidal surge,
:20:56. > :20:58.we didn't have a sea view. We couldn't see them wind turbines.
:20:59. > :21:01.You're joking? And all that land is being taken away all the time. What
:21:02. > :21:05.does that feel like? It's horrible. We don't know how much longer we've
:21:06. > :21:09.got to live here. Every night, if it's really rough, my neighbour and
:21:10. > :21:13.myself we get our big torches out. And we look along the dune line to
:21:14. > :21:17.see certain markers. We look for the trees. If the trees are still there,
:21:18. > :21:21.we can go to bed. The future of some of this community has been decided.
:21:22. > :21:24.A plan, ultimately signed off by the Environment Agency, says Hemsby
:21:25. > :21:27.should accept a controlled retreat. So another 50 homes in the area will
:21:28. > :21:34.eventually be surrendered to the sea. These big blocks are tank traps
:21:35. > :21:38.and they were put in place on the beach 70 years ago to stop the
:21:39. > :21:42.Germans. And they've been dragged up here to try and keep the sand in
:21:43. > :21:47.place. And these blocks are the only protection that this village has
:21:48. > :21:50.from the sea. People here don't understand why millions are being
:21:51. > :21:59.spent in the flooded south of England but nothing is being spent
:22:00. > :22:04.here. We just feel like we are second class citizens. Why? Because
:22:05. > :22:07.we're ignored. Do you feel abandoned then? We've been abandoned. The
:22:08. > :22:09.night of the tidal surge we were abandoned then and we've been
:22:10. > :22:13.abandoned ever since. Everything that's been done, we've had to fight
:22:14. > :22:16.to do ourselves. We're fighting to raise money. It's not right. It's a
:22:17. > :22:19.situation being repeated around our coastline. In Wales alone, up to 50
:22:20. > :22:26.communities, like here at Fairbourne, have been told they will
:22:27. > :22:29.no longer be protected. You cannot defend all the areas that we're
:22:30. > :22:33.spending a lot of money defending at the moment. That stands to reason.
:22:34. > :22:36.We've got a lot of vulnerable places round Britain. We really have. And I
:22:37. > :22:40.just think it's a matter of making choices and these choices are
:22:41. > :22:43.painful. Is it just the reality that we're going to have to let some
:22:44. > :22:47.places go, do you think? Well, we can't rule out, going forward, that
:22:48. > :22:50.there may end up, yes, parts of the country that we're able to protect
:22:51. > :22:56.if we're absolutely overwhelmed by rising seas. But all I can say is
:22:57. > :22:59.that we are spending record amounts of money on flood defence. So how
:23:00. > :23:04.painful could some of these choices be? The Somerset Levels fall below
:23:05. > :23:11.sea level. It's reclaimed land that the sea wants to get back.
:23:12. > :23:18.The water has to be pumped off every time it floods. Should we commit
:23:19. > :23:25.ourselves to millions in future spending?
:23:26. > :23:31.Well certainly until the Bronze Age there were pelicans breeding here on
:23:32. > :23:35.the Somerset Levels. This was sea, basically this, for at least part of
:23:36. > :23:39.the year every year. What we are seeing now is pretty well how it
:23:40. > :23:44.would have been. We are looking at a situation which was already pretty
:23:45. > :23:48.perilous. Now we are seeing a situation which just might not be
:23:49. > :23:50.viable at all anymore. But how do you tell people their homes may have
:23:51. > :23:56.to be flooded? Well, I took George, the
:23:57. > :24:05.environmentalist, to Burrowbridge to meet Jim, the pub landlord.
:24:06. > :24:12.I imagine there would be a lynching party. I really do. I think people
:24:13. > :24:14.feel that strongly about it. People losing their homes. Generations and
:24:15. > :24:21.generations of people have farmed here, lived here. And generations of
:24:22. > :24:25.people have grown up here. It is not a position where I want us to be and
:24:26. > :24:29.not a position where anyone wants to be. No, no, of course not. But we
:24:30. > :24:32.are in trouble. So what is the answer? What is the answer? In your
:24:33. > :24:37.opinion. Well, I don't think there is one answer. But I do think there
:24:38. > :24:40.are going to be communities on the Somerset Levels which, where it is
:24:41. > :24:44.very hard to see how they can remain viable if we are still going to be
:24:45. > :24:50.kept hit with stuff like this. Right. What did you think of what
:24:51. > :24:53.Jim had to say? People, of course, they love their homes. They love
:24:54. > :24:57.their communities. They are going to be very, very reluctant to be told
:24:58. > :25:02.that it is not going to work anymore. But there is a point beyond
:25:03. > :25:06.which you can't argue with nature. Nature is the source of these
:25:07. > :25:11.problems. But climate change could make the situation worse. The
:25:12. > :25:17.Government is planning for more extreme weather. The reason that we
:25:18. > :25:20.are spending record levels of money on flood defence is precisely
:25:21. > :25:25.because we recognise that climate change may make these extreme
:25:26. > :25:31.weather events more regular. And that is why we're spending the
:25:32. > :25:34.levels of money we are. But the Government's own advisor on climate
:25:35. > :25:39.change says less cash than was promised is being put aside to
:25:40. > :25:41.protect us from future floods. He says there's already a ?500 million
:25:42. > :25:52.shortfall and it's set to get worse. By 2020, we think the funding
:25:53. > :25:56.deficit for the current plans will grow to something just under ?2
:25:57. > :26:00.billion. So we need to spend a lot more money if we are to manage those
:26:01. > :26:08.risks we face of flooding in the future.
:26:09. > :26:15.Right now, many in Somerset have more basic concerns. Like what have
:26:16. > :26:20.they lost and when will they go home?
:26:21. > :26:25.Remember Phil and Lana who were flooded out of their home on the
:26:26. > :26:33.Somerset Levels? They're going back to see what the water's done. Well,
:26:34. > :26:39.it's worse. Ten times worse. And, uh... Oh, hang on. Are you OK? I
:26:40. > :26:41.don't know. Thousands are enduring such difficult times. Come and see
:26:42. > :26:57.our living room. Oh. Are you all right? Yeah. Goodness
:26:58. > :27:02.me. We got everything as high as we possibly could.
:27:03. > :27:06.Faced with criticism about how much it's been spending on flood
:27:07. > :27:11.defences, the Government has promised a review. And 1,500 job
:27:12. > :27:19.losses at the Environment Agency have been put on hold. It's
:27:20. > :27:26.predicted that we might not get back into this house until Christmas
:27:27. > :27:29.next. And where do we go? It's up to the electric sockets. Oh well that's
:27:30. > :27:47.it then. We've had it. In the long term there may be
:27:48. > :27:50.difficult choices to be made. I think most people who live in any
:27:51. > :28:04.low lying area should be aware of the risk they're at. Take steps to
:28:05. > :28:08.reduce it to a tolerable level. But mindful of the fact that it is a
:28:09. > :28:12.possibility, and if you can't be comfortable with it, then that is
:28:13. > :28:16.not a good place for you to live. It is a sort of war, and there are
:28:17. > :28:20.going to be casualties. And the best thing to do is to be frank with
:28:21. > :28:23.those people who are likely to be the losers. Unless we want to spend
:28:24. > :28:30.much more money we can't protect everywhere. So if more extreme
:28:31. > :28:35.weather is to come, more communities could be left to the water.