From Jail to Jihad?

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:00:07. > :00:21.Tonight, the convict released from prison into the arms of Islamic

:00:22. > :00:24.extremists. The friend of one of the Woolwich killers who converted

:00:25. > :00:30.others behind bars. When did you first embrace Islam? 2006.

:00:31. > :00:37.A Prison Service worried about the threat of radicalisation. There is a

:00:38. > :00:42.significant risk given the fact that we manage some dangerous people.

:00:43. > :00:49.And we go inside to see what impact that can have on the outside. In

:00:50. > :00:50.prison people say when you come out, brother, you should go and fight in

:00:51. > :01:10.Syria. This is a journey to find out how

:01:11. > :01:14.the threat of Islamic extremism is being dealt with in the one place

:01:15. > :01:23.with the greatest concentration of terrorists and extremists, the

:01:24. > :01:28.prison system. I'm on my way to Manchester Prison where a prisoner

:01:29. > :01:33.who converted to Islam is going to be released.

:01:34. > :01:42.He'll be met by fellow Muslims who have driven up from London. Among

:01:43. > :01:48.the group who have made the trip are convicted extremists Abdul Muhid and

:01:49. > :01:55.Mizanur Rahman. How do you think it is perceived you being here today by

:01:56. > :01:59.the Prison Service, the police, the counter-terrorism unilt? I don't

:02:00. > :02:02.really care. The police are on a witch-hunt. They will have an

:02:03. > :02:06.attitude of well, you know, what are they up to? Forget about the fact

:02:07. > :02:13.that he needs to get from Manchester to London somehow. After a three

:02:14. > :02:28.hour wait, Michael Coe, whose Islamic name is now Mikaeel Ibrahim,

:02:29. > :02:31.is released. He was jailed in 2006 for eight years for threatening

:02:32. > :02:37.police officers with a shotgun while out on parole for a knifepoint

:02:38. > :02:47.car-jacking. He went in a gangster and came out a convert to Islam. You

:02:48. > :02:55.feel that your brother is coming to meet you today. They come to get me.

:02:56. > :03:00.They come to bring me back 300 odd miles. When did you first embrace

:03:01. > :03:06.Islam? 2006. Whilst you were in prison? Whilst I was in prison.

:03:07. > :03:11.I want to find what attracted this 33-year-old from East London to

:03:12. > :03:15.Islam. Even though I wasn't Muslim, I hung around with Muslims. After a

:03:16. > :03:19.little time it rubs off. You start listening to people and believing

:03:20. > :03:25.people and in the end, I decided this is the way forwards. My life

:03:26. > :03:29.has been much better since. One of the people who showed him the

:03:30. > :03:33.way forward was Abdul Muhid, who has been convicted of terror related

:03:34. > :03:37.offences. Mikaeel Ibrahim had already converted to Islam by the

:03:38. > :03:43.time they'd met in prison. I was on a different wing and I got

:03:44. > :03:49.transferred and we became friends. We started talking. He taught me

:03:50. > :03:52.some of the stuff I didn't know. In turn he was suspected of taking

:03:53. > :04:00.other inmates under his wing and radicalising them. Some particular

:04:01. > :04:05.officers were asking inmates was I radicalising them. They said, "Is he

:04:06. > :04:10.trying to bring people to Islam?" That's what they seemed to fear.

:04:11. > :04:13.Inmates identified as a potential threat because of their extreme

:04:14. > :04:20.views are usually met by police or probation when they are released on

:04:21. > :04:22.licence. But because Mikaeel Ibrahim has served all of his sentence he's

:04:23. > :04:37.free to be met by Muhid and Rahman. Rahman, seen here, took part in the

:04:38. > :04:43.Danish Embassy protests against a cartoonist accused of belittling the

:04:44. > :04:49.Prophet Muhammad. He was jailed for four years for inciting racial

:04:50. > :04:55.hatred and soliciting murder. Muhid was also at the protest. He was

:04:56. > :04:56.jailed for four years for soliciting murder and also for encouraging

:04:57. > :05:09.others to fundraise for terrorism. Over the last ten years the number

:05:10. > :05:13.of Muslims in prison has doubled to nearly 12,000. That's one in seven

:05:14. > :05:16.prisoners. The Prison Service can't tell us how many have been converted

:05:17. > :05:25.inside or how many are adopting radical views. What we do know is

:05:26. > :05:28.that there around 100 Islamist terrorists behind bars and around

:05:29. > :05:36.500 more have been identified with links to extremist groups.

:05:37. > :05:40.It does concern me that radicalisation is taking place in

:05:41. > :05:46.prison and I feel that more of a holistic approach needs to be taken

:05:47. > :05:49.in combatting it. Ishmael Lea South has worked with

:05:50. > :05:51.Muslim offenders before and after their release. He's come across

:05:52. > :05:58.prisoners who've been radicalised during their time inside. He says

:05:59. > :06:03.some are being encouraged to go and fight in Syria. And this is a big

:06:04. > :06:10.concern for the Security Services since the deaths of British Jihadis

:06:11. > :06:14.there. They will be saying things like the foreign policy issue is

:06:15. > :06:20.oppressing our Muslim brothers and sisters abroad. We need to go abroad

:06:21. > :06:27.to fight the infidels who are oppressing our brothers and sisters

:06:28. > :06:30.and we have to establish Sharia law. The Prison Service says that the

:06:31. > :06:37.radicalisation of Muslims inmates is rare, but when it happens it's

:06:38. > :06:40.serious. Shoe bomber Richard Reid who tried

:06:41. > :06:44.to blow up an aeroplane converted in prison, so too did Jermaine Grant

:06:45. > :06:54.now on trial in Kenya accused of being part of a bomb plot. Abdul

:06:55. > :06:58.Miah convicted of plotting to bomb the London Stock Exchange was

:06:59. > :07:02.radicalised inside. What concerns me most is there a

:07:03. > :07:08.significant risk given the fact that we manage dangerous people. Our job

:07:09. > :07:13.is to minimise that risk becoming a reality. So minimise the risk that

:07:14. > :07:16.somebody in prison becomes radicalised and commits a terrorist

:07:17. > :07:22.offence. Our job is to protect the public. That's what we do every day

:07:23. > :07:27.and what worries me is whenever we fail to do that in a range of

:07:28. > :07:33.potential scenarios, people could be hurt.

:07:34. > :07:38.It's now four days since prison convert Mikaeel Ibrahim was released

:07:39. > :07:44.from jail. Today he's joined a protest against the sale of alcohol

:07:45. > :07:50.in London's Brick Lane. It has been organised by Abdul Muhid and Mizanur

:07:51. > :07:54.Rahman who met Mikaeel from prison. Those who serve alcohol. Those who

:07:55. > :08:00.make alcohol. They want Sharia Law to replace

:08:01. > :08:03.democracy in the UK. They follow Anjem Choudary, one time key player

:08:04. > :08:08.of radical group al-Muhajiroun until it was banned under the Prevention

:08:09. > :08:11.of Terrorism Act. Choudary's presence sparks anger from people

:08:12. > :08:22.taking part in a larger unrelated rally nearby. This guy is a clown.

:08:23. > :08:25.He represents nothing about Islam. Mikaeel Ibrahim appears to be acting

:08:26. > :08:34.as the controversial cleric's minder. You are a big fool as well.

:08:35. > :08:38.People come to a meeting like this and people get upset. I just came

:08:39. > :08:47.here and I came to see some of my friends. That's it. I didn't do

:08:48. > :08:53.anything. I didn't do anything. REPORTER: It is because of who you

:08:54. > :08:57.are around, people think that it is trouble? It says that the people

:08:58. > :09:02.upon the right path will always be in the minority.

:09:03. > :09:09.He has adopted the same thinking of those around him. They sell alcohol.

:09:10. > :09:16.It is not allowed. They put a curse on anyone who makes it, transports,

:09:17. > :09:19.consumes it. Today's protest passes off

:09:20. > :09:22.peacefully enough, it's been all talk, but when talk turns to action

:09:23. > :09:28.the consequences can be deadly serious. Christmas Eve 2012 and

:09:29. > :09:36.radical Islamists are protesting outside St Paul's Cathedral. Anjem

:09:37. > :09:40.Choudary is present. So is Mikaeel Ibrahim while out of prison on

:09:41. > :09:49.licence. Also there convert, Jordan Horner, who has taken an Islamic

:09:50. > :09:52.name. He didn't convert in prison. He embraced Islam on the streets of

:09:53. > :10:03.London as a teenager. Within two years he was voicing extreme views.

:10:04. > :10:08.I hate everything that's associated with British society. It is

:10:09. > :10:15.disobedient to the commands of God. The man on the right is Michael

:10:16. > :10:21.Adebowale. Less than five months later, he murdered soldier Lee Rigby

:10:22. > :10:28.in Woolwich. The other man is Royal Barnes. He's currently in prison for

:10:29. > :10:31.glorifying the soldier's murder. Before he was sent down for that and

:10:32. > :10:37.other crimes he and Horner filmed their attempt to bring Sharia law to

:10:38. > :10:43.East London. Remove yourself away from the mosque. Go away from the

:10:44. > :10:51.mosque now. Muslim patrol. We don't respect those who disobey God. We

:10:52. > :11:06.don't respect them. It is Great Britain. We have rights... Not so

:11:07. > :11:09.Great Britain, you understand? This night-time intimidation led to the

:11:10. > :11:14.arrest of both Barnes and Horner. Horner was jailed for 16 months.

:11:15. > :11:17.Unlike Mikaeel Ibrahim who went into prison a common criminal, Horner was

:11:18. > :11:27.sent to jail as a convicted extremist and used the time inside

:11:28. > :11:36.to convert other inmates. Prison officers witnessed people becoming

:11:37. > :11:40.Muslim. They were becoming Muslim in front of the prisonsters and they

:11:41. > :11:45.felt -- prison officers and they felt powerless. They said I was

:11:46. > :11:47.trying to divide Muslims from non-Muslims and trying to get them

:11:48. > :11:52.to follow an extreme version of Islam.

:11:53. > :11:55.In less than a year Horner was transferred four times to try to

:11:56. > :12:05.stop him radicalising other inmates. This is an important tactic deployed

:12:06. > :12:09.by the Prison Service. Somebody is gaining authority or hierarchy

:12:10. > :12:12.within a prison, moving that individual and disrupting that

:12:13. > :12:16.hierarchy can be an effective tool in making sure the type of

:12:17. > :12:20.radicalisation that you're referring to doesn't take place.

:12:21. > :12:23.But according to Horner moving him from prison to prison didn't work

:12:24. > :12:32.and may have helped spread his views. In Thameside a lot of people

:12:33. > :12:39.became Muslim. I still spoke to people will Muslim. Th sent me back

:12:40. > :12:42.to Feltham. When another individual became Muslim, they moved me on the

:12:43. > :12:47.basis I forced them to become Muslim.

:12:48. > :12:50.I want to find out more about what makes some convicted criminals turn

:12:51. > :12:58.to extreme Islam and what the Prison Service is doing to try to stop it.

:12:59. > :13:00.There are about ten convicted terrorists at Whitemoor High

:13:01. > :13:10.Security Prison and around three times as many inmates with extremist

:13:11. > :13:17.views. Governor Damian Evans says these prisoners pose a risk that has

:13:18. > :13:21.to be managed. It is a challenge for staff between distinguish between

:13:22. > :13:24.what a the proper practise of Islam and what might be a threat. My staff

:13:25. > :13:28.are highly experienced. They have very, very good at observing

:13:29. > :13:32.prisoners, forming appropriate relationships with them, gathering

:13:33. > :13:40.intelligence and gathering information. They have been trained

:13:41. > :13:45.in what to look out for in terms of potential radicalising behaviour.

:13:46. > :13:48.But Mizanur Rahman who spent time in another high security prison says

:13:49. > :13:58.this type of close monitoring can make Muslim prisoners feel

:13:59. > :14:04.stigmatised. People praying together and that's, you know, a very basic

:14:05. > :14:09.thing of Islam, we pray in congregation. It is better to pray

:14:10. > :14:14.together. It is nothing to do with radicalism or extremism, but it was

:14:15. > :14:17.treated as radicalism. Whitemoor has the highest proportion

:14:18. > :14:24.of Muslim inmates of any jail in the UK, more than 40%. Like the majority

:14:25. > :14:30.of British Muslims most are moderate. And the governor says it

:14:31. > :14:34.would be wrong to view Muslim prisoners through the lens of

:14:35. > :14:39.extremism. It is very important that we recognise the majority of

:14:40. > :14:43.practise of Islam within prison is fundamentally a good thing. Islam

:14:44. > :14:48.offers a sense of belonging, brotherhood and friendship. It is

:14:49. > :14:52.important we recognise that and Islam very often can provide good

:14:53. > :14:55.opportunities for change and development.

:14:56. > :14:58.But one former prisoner recently released after serving nine years in

:14:59. > :15:08.various prisons for armed robbery says there are other reasons why

:15:09. > :15:15.criminals convert to Islam. When you come into prison, you see a lot of

:15:16. > :15:19.gangsters or whatever and they want protection and see Muslim brothers

:15:20. > :15:23.stick together. They practise religion so they don't get harmed by

:15:24. > :15:30.other people. They know if you mess with one Muslim, you mess with them

:15:31. > :15:34.all. Becoming a Muslim in prison may offer safety in numbers. On the

:15:35. > :15:48.other hand, many Muslim inmates say they feel unsafe.

:15:49. > :15:54.After Abdul Muhid was released he started a campaign called Muslim

:15:55. > :15:57.Prisoners. Today he is outside Paddington Green Police Station,

:15:58. > :16:01.where many suspects have been held. He says he was badly treated in

:16:02. > :16:05.prison and says he believes other Muslims are as well. I was

:16:06. > :16:11.transferred to Frankland a week after a massive riot. I was among

:16:12. > :16:16.the first Muslims that the prisons in -- that the prisoners could get

:16:17. > :16:25.hold of. They burnt my cell. A week later somebody attempted to stab me.

:16:26. > :16:28.Muslim prisoners tell us they feel less safe than non-Muslim prisoners.

:16:29. > :16:32.They have done that consistently for a number of years. They feel

:16:33. > :16:36.threatened by other prisoners and sometimes they feel threatened by

:16:37. > :16:40.staff. The danger is of prisoners feeling unsafe, is they look for

:16:41. > :16:44.protection. If they do not feel they are being protected by staff,

:16:45. > :16:50.they'll join a join that they think can provide that protection.

:16:51. > :16:54.It is that sense of feeling unsafe and seeking protection that some

:16:55. > :17:00.fear can play into the hands of extremists seeking to radicalise

:17:01. > :17:05.their fellow inmates. One of the first things they do is

:17:06. > :17:09.look, if anyone troubles you, tell me, we will deal with them. If

:17:10. > :17:14.anyone tries to bully you, tries to take liberties with you, you are an

:17:15. > :17:19.akhi, you are a brother, we'll defend you. It is like it is in the

:17:20. > :17:23.school playground. The same way but in the prison.

:17:24. > :17:29.But rather than offer extremists the chance to spread their ideology,

:17:30. > :17:35.prisons should be the one place where it can be challenged by the

:17:36. > :17:40.state. Key to this is the Prison Service's specially vetted Imams. We

:17:41. > :17:44.have a strong group of Imams to support Muslims in prison, to

:17:45. > :17:52.understand the Islamic faith, which is not about extremism and hatred.

:17:53. > :17:58.We asked to interview a prison Imam, but the Prison Service said no.

:17:59. > :18:00.Part of an Imam's job is to decide what inmates can read and watch in

:18:01. > :18:12.order to follow their faith. This is the list from Whitemoor

:18:13. > :18:18.Prison of the DVDs and books inmates are allowed. On it is a DVD by the

:18:19. > :18:25.radical preacher Bilal Philip, who was stopped from entering the UK in

:18:26. > :18:29.2010 after appearing to justify suicide bombing.

:18:30. > :18:36.I have seen the DVD and although it's not extreme, I still wanted to

:18:37. > :18:43.know why it was allowed at Whitemoor.

:18:44. > :18:46.He's been banned from entering the UK by Theresa May, yet his material

:18:47. > :18:51.is allowed in a prison. Is that right? Governors have the authority

:18:52. > :18:57.to ban material. I don't know what that material is or says. It is for

:18:58. > :19:03.the governor to make that decision. The Prison Service says the contents

:19:04. > :19:05.of the DVD do not contravene existing restrictions, but it is

:19:06. > :19:11.considering how best to deal with material from people who are

:19:12. > :19:19.excluded from the UK. Back on the outside, it is now four

:19:20. > :19:25.months since I last saw Mikaeel Ibrahim. I have come to see if he

:19:26. > :19:30.turns up at another protest organised by the men who met him at

:19:31. > :19:35.the prison gates. Like many of their protests they are confronted by the

:19:36. > :19:44.far right. He arrives with Izzadeen iz, who was

:19:45. > :19:50.charged with terrorist fundraising. They met in prison.

:19:51. > :19:55.Mikaeel Ibrahim told me more about his life now he's a free man.

:19:56. > :20:01.When you haven't got a cause for your life, OK, your life is like any

:20:02. > :20:10.of these other - we get out and we try and make as much money, sleep

:20:11. > :20:16.with as as many. I want to see a state of Khalifah. A changed person?

:20:17. > :20:20.100%. He has been promoted as a role model.

:20:21. > :20:27.In this video made in 2012, while he was out of prison on license, the

:20:28. > :20:32.role model reveals how 9/11 was an inspiration.

:20:33. > :20:35.I was thinking to myself, they were saying Bin Laden already. Within a

:20:36. > :20:39.day they were trying to say it was Bin Laden, yeah? I was thinking, oh,

:20:40. > :20:44.my God, this man is a gangster. This man is on top. This is one guy

:20:45. > :20:49.taking on the might of a country. That I can respect. That's the sort

:20:50. > :20:54.of stuff that initially drew me to Islam. It was a terrorist he met

:20:55. > :20:59.five years later inside Frankland Prison, near Durham, who convinced

:21:00. > :21:04.him to convert to Islam. One brother who was on to me, he's doing 40

:21:05. > :21:07.years for no reason. He said to me, why, why don't you come to Islam.

:21:08. > :21:15.All the time. Dhiren Barot is one of the UK's most

:21:16. > :21:21.dangerous terrorists. This reconnaissance video filmed by him

:21:22. > :21:26.of New York landmarks was seized during 2004, into an investigation

:21:27. > :21:30.into the 42-year-old from London. Computers, his hand book and

:21:31. > :21:35.terrorist training notes were discovered. The Hindu who converted

:21:36. > :21:41.to Islam had also filmed the twin towers in a way he suggested he knew

:21:42. > :21:46.what was coming. It was in prison, serving a minimum

:21:47. > :21:54.of 30 years that Barot gave Mikaeel Ibrahim the invitation to Islam,

:21:55. > :21:59.known as Da'wah He was opposite me. When he saw me, he came over and

:22:00. > :22:03.said, are you Muslim? I said, no. I have been learning a bit. He said,

:22:04. > :22:07.trust me, there is nothing but Islam. Two weeks after I got take on

:22:08. > :22:13.the the block and moved to another prison. Within that week, the Da'wah

:22:14. > :22:17.he gave me, it hit me. That is a problem for the Prison

:22:18. > :22:25.Service. Converts like Ibrahim are part of a growing Muslim population

:22:26. > :22:30.which are white or Afro-Caribbean. Many Imams do not share their

:22:31. > :22:35.experience or background. Most of the prisoners that I have

:22:36. > :22:40.seen in prison they are UK-born and bred. They eat fish and chips, they

:22:41. > :22:45.watch Eastenders now and again. You need someone or someone other than

:22:46. > :22:50.the Imam to liaise with them on their level. The sad reality is a

:22:51. > :22:56.lot of the Imams in prison, a lot of them are not UK-born. So, this

:22:57. > :23:01.leaves a big gulf of separation. So, what has happened is sometimes the

:23:02. > :23:08.person with the largest clout, the biggest mouth, the they are seen as

:23:09. > :23:10.the Imam in the prison. In some cases where people don't have

:23:11. > :23:15.confidence in the Imam and certainly it will be wrong to load all the

:23:16. > :23:20.responsibility for dealing this on to him. I think extremism is a

:23:21. > :23:26.security issue. Dhiren Barot, the Al-Qaeda terrorist

:23:27. > :23:32.was moved from Frankland Prison to Full Sutton, near York. It was there

:23:33. > :23:36.last May that three men asoshed with him carry -- associated with him

:23:37. > :23:42.carried out an attack. It happened four days after the killing of Lee

:23:43. > :23:47.Rigby. Feroz Khan, Feroz Awale and convert

:23:48. > :23:54.David Watson are all convicted murderers suffering life sentences.

:23:55. > :23:58.-- serving life sentences. They became devote inside, growing

:23:59. > :24:04.beards and praying five times a day. There were signs of radicalisation.

:24:05. > :24:12.Khan had walked out of Friday prayers after the Imam offered

:24:13. > :24:16.condolences to the Rigby family. He told a prison officer, Muslims have

:24:17. > :24:26.a duty to fight back and that is why people were getting killed.

:24:27. > :24:31.Just after 4pm, Khan and his accomplices lay in wait.

:24:32. > :24:35.Their target, a prison officer, Richard Thompson, who they thought

:24:36. > :24:44.had been in the military. They took Thompson by surprise and

:24:45. > :24:47.bundled him into a room. Awale threatened a prison officer

:24:48. > :24:52.with a make-shift knife. I have killed people already. I'll

:24:53. > :24:56.kill you. I'll kill you! The three inmates were now in control.

:24:57. > :25:01.Khan made his demands over the prison Tannoy - the release of a

:25:02. > :25:09.radical cleric and a woman who attempted to murder an MP.

:25:10. > :25:13.We have taken a hostage. Thompson suffered a fractured

:25:14. > :25:20.cheekbone during the siege, which only ended when his attackers were

:25:21. > :25:24.persuaded to surrender. Khan and Awale were found guilty of

:25:25. > :25:32.threats to kill. Khan also of assault. All three were cleared of

:25:33. > :25:36.false imprisonment. Do you think the incident in Full

:25:37. > :25:39.Sutton was an act of terrorism? I think it was a serious and

:25:40. > :25:43.unacceptable criminal act and it is not for me to define whether it is

:25:44. > :25:48.terrorism or not I was a pretty horrific incident for the officer to

:25:49. > :25:53.go through. After the siege, the three men were

:25:54. > :25:58.moved to other prisons. It was at bell marsh high security prison that

:25:59. > :26:01.Jordan Horner said he met two of them.

:26:02. > :26:06.I was in segregation with Awale. I was on the main population with

:26:07. > :26:09.Brother Khan. These people are beautiful individuals who love Allah

:26:10. > :26:13.and Islam. It has been eight years since the

:26:14. > :26:18.Government's prevent strategy to combat the spread of radical Islam

:26:19. > :26:23.was rolled out in prisons. Some programmes have been introduced

:26:24. > :26:27.to challenge the extremist mind set. These courses are voluntary and few

:26:28. > :26:34.convicted terrorists and extremists have been willing to engage.

:26:35. > :26:38.You cannot force somebody to change a view. There's no evidence of

:26:39. > :26:41.anyone forcing somebody to change a view. We have to work hard,

:26:42. > :26:44.sometimes over a very long period in order to make effective change with

:26:45. > :26:51.people. Did they attempt to deradicalise

:26:52. > :26:56.you? To a certain extent, I would say there's only so much they can

:26:57. > :27:01.do, you know? When you allow me to come for association, you give me

:27:02. > :27:04.the ability to praise Allah, as a congregation among Muslims. Neven

:27:05. > :27:09.the hard hardest times there is a blessing that Muslims can take out

:27:10. > :27:14.of the prison system. On the outside the Government is giving extremists

:27:15. > :27:18.like Jordan Horner less choice. He has been given a new type of an y

:27:19. > :27:23.social behaviour order. The aim is to restrict him. Conditions have

:27:24. > :27:29.been put on me. It says you cannot do the basics of Islam. You can't

:27:30. > :27:36.invite people to Islam. I can not make any unsoe lised approach to

:27:37. > :27:40.people. How long is th ASBO imposed? Five years. They are trying to put

:27:41. > :27:46.as much restrictions on me, for as long as possible, so they can, as

:27:47. > :27:50.you know, they can sleep well at night.

:27:51. > :27:55.But the authorities have limited control over Mikaeel Ibrahim. He has

:27:56. > :28:00.never been on a deradicalisation programme inside or outside of

:28:01. > :28:06.prison and doesn't believe he needs to. I follow the rules of Islam to a

:28:07. > :28:11.T. The people that teach me. They teach me only that of Islam. What

:28:12. > :28:14.the other people who have ulterior motives deem as extreme is their

:28:15. > :28:17.business. For me, I am not an extremist.

:28:18. > :28:22.And that is a big challenge for the prison system. All the former

:28:23. > :28:25.prisoners we have spoken to say the tactics used to challenge them don't

:28:26. > :28:30.work. Unless a way is found, what the

:28:31. > :28:36.Prison Service calls the small but significant risk of prisoners

:28:37. > :28:41.becoming radicalised, could become a much bigger threat.