:01:22. > :01:25.not just happen to celebrities but it happens to real people. Your
:01:26. > :01:32.whole world is completely turned upside down. Even people under
:01:33. > :01:36.police protection were not safe. For that information to get into the
:01:37. > :01:41.hands of journalists is potentially putting people's lives at risk. For
:01:42. > :01:50.years, police sat on the evidence that eventually brought down the
:01:51. > :01:55.News of the World. While there are publicly denying it, you really do
:01:56. > :02:01.get sick about that. Phone hacking the scandal covered by News
:02:02. > :02:04.International for years. Now panorama reveals how police and
:02:05. > :02:10.politicians let them get away with it. We were all being told what we
:02:11. > :02:30.had was a democracy. In fact, we didn't have anything of the sort.
:02:31. > :02:37.telephone messages. Hello, it is glamour. Just a quick one. Imagine
:02:38. > :02:44.someone does it day after day after day. Put his number in. It will ask
:02:45. > :02:49.you for the PIN number and then put his number back in and there are
:02:50. > :02:56.three messages on there. Imagine it happening to you. On that shred of
:02:57. > :03:05.paper, was David Beckham. Underneath that was my name. Which was quite
:03:06. > :03:10.shocking, really. Colette has been violated. She would just be so
:03:11. > :03:20.shocked if she was to know what went on after her death. This is a man
:03:21. > :03:28.who secretly listened in on not just those lives of thousands of others.
:03:29. > :03:33.Glenn Mulcaire. He's a frantic kind of character working very, very
:03:34. > :03:41.hard. There was an example came out where he was hacking Kerry Katona on
:03:42. > :03:47.Christmas Day. Rupert Murdoch's company paid him ?1 million to hack
:03:48. > :03:51.for journalists. During that five years he was working for them, they
:03:52. > :03:57.were tasking at least once every day, seven days a week for five
:03:58. > :04:02.years. But one story changed everything. It laid bare just how
:04:03. > :04:13.powerful and arrogant Rupert Murdoch's company had become. In
:04:14. > :04:20.March 2002, a 13-year-old schoolgirl Milly Dowler was snatched as she
:04:21. > :04:23.walked home from a sunny school. We are devastated, so desperately
:04:24. > :04:29.worried. We just want to have Milly back home. So much. While her
:04:30. > :04:32.parents made public pleas for their daughter 's safe return, Glenn
:04:33. > :04:38.Mulcaire secretly hacked into her phone messages. He found one from a
:04:39. > :04:43.recruitment agency in Shropshire, apparently offering her a job
:04:44. > :04:47.interview. We are bringing because they have some interviews starting.
:04:48. > :04:52.Can you call me back? Thanks, bye. The message convinced the News of
:04:53. > :05:00.the World Milly was alive. You might imagine a normal human being with
:05:01. > :05:02.any sense of feeling would say to the family, we have found Milly
:05:03. > :05:09.Dowler, but they chose not to do that because this story was more
:05:10. > :05:17.important to them than putting the family's mind at ease. It was just
:05:18. > :05:20.the start for the News of the World now thought to have that exclusive.
:05:21. > :05:27.It sent six reporters and photographers to Telford. When you
:05:28. > :05:38.realise you have been targeted by them, it's intimidating. It's quite
:05:39. > :05:41.frightening. In Telford, Mark and Cox and his mother ran the
:05:42. > :05:45.recruitment agency which left the message on Milly Mackintosh phone,
:05:46. > :05:51.and the message was never meant for Milly and they are dialled the wrong
:05:52. > :05:57.number. Even though I knew she couldn't work for us as she was only
:05:58. > :06:03.13, I felt sick that the News of the World was on the doorstep. Within
:06:04. > :06:07.minutes of turning a reporter away from his home, Mark was surprised to
:06:08. > :06:12.receive a call from one of the paper's most senior figures. I was
:06:13. > :06:18.totally shocked to get a phone call from the managing editor of News of
:06:19. > :06:24.the World. He truly believed that Milly Dowler was working for our
:06:25. > :06:25.recruitment agency. The agency revealed there was no Milly Dowler
:06:26. > :06:42.on their books. But it didn't stop attempts to
:06:43. > :06:46.damage their business. A reporter approached the manager of their
:06:47. > :06:51.biggest client on a golf course and told him they were employing
:06:52. > :06:57.underage girls. He wasn't amused, as you can imagine, so he summoned me
:06:58. > :07:02.and I can remember driving down there thinking all this hard work
:07:03. > :07:08.that I've done, we're going to lose it all. Desperate to get their
:07:09. > :07:12.story, the News of the World then played Milly's hacked message to
:07:13. > :07:15.Surrey Police who were investigating her disappearance and printed its
:07:16. > :07:24.content in early editions of the paper. It shows you so much about
:07:25. > :07:27.the News of the World, not just the ruthless decision in the beginning
:07:28. > :07:31.to keep that secret from the police, but then the arrogant aggression
:07:32. > :07:35.that we can tell the police we are breaking the law and they won't
:07:36. > :07:41.bother to enforce it and the worst thing of all, they were right.
:07:42. > :07:45.Surrey Police accept the hacking of her phone should have been
:07:46. > :07:50.investigated in 2002 of its yet to explain why it wasn't. In charge of
:07:51. > :07:54.the News of the World that week was deputy editor Andy Coulson. If off
:07:55. > :07:59.Rebekah Brooks was on holiday and said she never knew the paper had
:08:00. > :08:02.listened to her messages. But it would take nine years for what the
:08:03. > :08:11.News of the World did that week to be exposed. But News of the World
:08:12. > :08:19.that the centre of new allegations of illegal phone hacking.
:08:20. > :08:33.He had been shamed and humiliation, Rupert Murdoch. Do you apologise to
:08:34. > :08:37.the family? What happened showed the newspaper Mac as content for the
:08:38. > :08:41.law, the police and the family which appeared to be getting its way. This
:08:42. > :08:49.was the ugly face of Rupert Murdoch's empire. After 168 years,
:08:50. > :08:53.one of Britain's most famous newspapers were shut down in
:08:54. > :08:58.disgrace. CHEERING
:08:59. > :09:05.This is not what we wanted to be. This is not where we deserve to be.
:09:06. > :09:11.By the end, many felt the paper got its just deserts. I think the News
:09:12. > :09:14.of the World journalists grew incredibly arrogant. In the last
:09:15. > :09:24.decade of the paper's life. Behind the rise of the News of the
:09:25. > :09:27.World was the paper's owner, Rupert Murdoch, and his protege, Rebekah
:09:28. > :09:47.Brooks. He was the brash Australian who took
:09:48. > :09:50.Fleet Street by storm. What a short philosophy as proprietor a
:09:51. > :09:57.newspaper? Sell as many of them as possible. Within 15 years, he bought
:09:58. > :10:05.up some of its most famous titles including the Sun, and the News of
:10:06. > :10:13.the World. His progress made easier when Margaret Thatcher bypassed
:10:14. > :10:17.rules on media ownership. By the late 80s, Rebekah Brooks had got her
:10:18. > :10:22.first job in newspapers. Tabloid reporter Charles Ray remembers her
:10:23. > :10:29.well. Obviously the best you spot straight off was the hair. It is the
:10:30. > :10:37.best hey I've seen on anybody, you know, just fantastic. She joined the
:10:38. > :10:51.News of the World as a researcher age 21. Her rise was meteoric.
:10:52. > :10:59.Deputy editor of the News of the World at 27. Deputy editor of the
:11:00. > :11:12.Sun at 29. And that was just the beginning. She had this remarkable
:11:13. > :11:21.capacity to engage with anyone and the more powerful they were, the
:11:22. > :11:29.more clever she was at finding some links to them. She was a political
:11:30. > :11:34.animal. She was able to collect the right sort of people. Rebekah Brooks
:11:35. > :11:40.and Rupert Murdoch were made for each other. She was a problem
:11:41. > :11:50.solver. That's fantastically good for any boss. Together, they would
:11:51. > :12:02.wield enormous political influence. Politicians craved their backing.
:12:03. > :12:14.After four election defeats, Labour wanted some Murdoch magic. Have you
:12:15. > :12:18.come halfway around the world to talk to Rupert Murdoch? It's
:12:19. > :12:23.important obviously because this is a major media outlet. The Leader of
:12:24. > :12:28.the Opposition was determined to have his moment in the sun. There
:12:29. > :12:32.was a lot of hostility in the past. It's important the Labour Party
:12:33. > :12:37.makes the case as to why in a world of very great change, we're the best
:12:38. > :12:41.people to handle that change. But some Labour colleagues doubted the
:12:42. > :12:46.wisdom of courting Rupert Murdoch. I don't trust the Sun, Murdoch and his
:12:47. > :12:51.outfit. I was always against a cosy professional relationship but always
:12:52. > :12:57.suggested it was more than that with the implication that we can help you
:12:58. > :13:01.win the election. It has helped Tony Blair calculated he couldn't do
:13:02. > :13:07.without. His strategy landed him in political coup. This was the
:13:08. > :13:15.beginning of ink and incredibly incestuous close relationship
:13:16. > :13:21.between senior politicians and senior journalists particular on
:13:22. > :13:25.News International. Some senior journalists there broke the law to
:13:26. > :13:29.get stories. Their editor, Rebekah Brooks, needed only to rely on her
:13:30. > :13:33.charm. Why New Labour settled into power, she settled in for a cosy
:13:34. > :13:41.dinners with the new Prime Minister and his Chancellor. It became clear
:13:42. > :13:44.that Rebekah Brooks would have a dinner with Gordon Brown, tell him
:13:45. > :13:49.certain information about what she thinks Blair has told her, he would
:13:50. > :13:53.have a go at me. Then Blair would have a dinner and have a go at me
:13:54. > :13:58.for what Gordon was supposed to be doing. She was playing them off. It
:13:59. > :14:06.was detestable if you believe that journalism is about telling the
:14:07. > :14:12.truth. For her, it became a form of social ascent. It is not just
:14:13. > :14:15.whether they write the story. They are actively involved, playing a
:14:16. > :14:20.part in the politics and she was at the centre of it. News International
:14:21. > :14:25.seduced politicians with a tantalising promise of support. But
:14:26. > :14:31.it's journalists have the power to make or break careers. At the News
:14:32. > :14:37.of the World, private detectives were being used to dig up the most
:14:38. > :14:50.confidential and sensitive of personal information. The journalist
:14:51. > :14:55.will act on a tip, give it to the newsdesk, who will have certain
:14:56. > :14:58.contacts who will maybe have access to bank account details, phone
:14:59. > :15:05.accounts. They will come back and say, yes, you're right, write it.
:15:06. > :15:11.One man who would thrive in that culture was Andy Coulson. He was a
:15:12. > :15:16.deputy at use of the world and Rebekah Brooks's Sigrid lover. He
:15:17. > :15:19.was another rising News International staff. His background
:15:20. > :15:28.was in showbiz reporting and it was an agenda his editor was keen to
:15:29. > :15:32.pursue. Andy Coulson had for years been the Sun's showbiz reporter and
:15:33. > :15:41.editor, which he was not shy of boasting about on children's TV. I
:15:42. > :15:54.got to interview all the big names, such as Madonna, the Spice Girls.
:15:55. > :15:57.Elton John. Sean Hall worked with Andy Coulson at the Sun in the 1990s
:15:58. > :16:06.and for him at the News of the World in 2000 -- 2001. He claims he was
:16:07. > :16:10.familiar with the use of private detectives. I am sure he was aware
:16:11. > :16:19.of those practices. At the end of the day, such was the cultural, we
:16:20. > :16:22.were there to deliver. -- such was the culture. How journalists on the
:16:23. > :16:28.News of the World and the tabloids were getting stories was already a
:16:29. > :16:33.concern to Scotland Yard. Surveillance during a murder enquiry
:16:34. > :16:37.in 1999 revealed leaks between tabloids, including use of the
:16:38. > :16:45.world, and a private eye business with criminal connections. It seemed
:16:46. > :16:53.like a little cosy conspiracy between journalists, ex-police
:16:54. > :16:57.officers, private detectives and serving officers. The firm was being
:16:58. > :17:00.used to channel payments from newspapers to corrupt police
:17:01. > :17:07.officers for leaks about celebrities and ongoing police investigations. I
:17:08. > :17:14.propose that we ought to investigate because my view was, these people I
:17:15. > :17:18.described, and others described, as active corrupters of police
:17:19. > :17:22.officers, it was straightforward and uncomplicated and I expected the net
:17:23. > :17:28.to say, yes, we should do this. I find they were very reticent to do
:17:29. > :17:36.that. He says this man, his then boss, said no - an investigation
:17:37. > :17:42.would be too risky and complex. At the time I felt he was making a
:17:43. > :17:49.heartfelt and honest assessment of the situation and the risks to the
:17:50. > :17:52.Metropolitan Police of investigating national newspapers. We tried to ask
:17:53. > :18:02.Andy Hayman about this but he did not want to respond. In court,
:18:03. > :18:06.Rebekah Brooks said the News of the World had lots of private detectives
:18:07. > :18:13.to track down paedophiles as part of her campaign to name and shame
:18:14. > :18:19.convicted sex offenders after the murder of Sarah Payne. The paper is
:18:20. > :18:25.on the side of protecting children and not paedophiles and I believe
:18:26. > :18:34.the public are behind us. What kind of private detectives was the News
:18:35. > :18:43.of the World hiring? Hello, it is Glenn Mulcaire. One private
:18:44. > :18:46.investigator was Glenn Mulcaire, a former footballer. He started
:18:47. > :18:51.working for the News of the World in the late 1990s. Journalist Nick
:18:52. > :19:00.Davies believes he was hacking into phones even then. By around 97, 98,
:19:01. > :19:03.he has come up with the voice mail trick. I do not know where he got it
:19:04. > :19:13.from. He starts doing it for News of the World as early as 97, 98. By
:19:14. > :19:18.2001, Glenn Mulcaire had a five-year contract and ended up being paid
:19:19. > :19:28.more than ?100,000 a year. Rebekah Brooks said in court she did not
:19:29. > :19:32.know he was working for the paper. In 2003, Rebekah Brooks landed the
:19:33. > :19:44.biggest job in tabloid newspapers - editor of the Sun. Just two months
:19:45. > :19:51.later, she let slip that News International would go as far as
:19:52. > :19:56.paying police officers. Just the one element, of the ever paid police for
:19:57. > :20:02.information? We had paid police for information in the past. Would you
:20:03. > :20:08.do it in the future? If there is a clear public interest, the same
:20:09. > :20:15.holds for private detectives, such abuse, whatever. -- subterfuge. I
:20:16. > :20:27.thought they made an amazing and extraordinary confession. I said
:20:28. > :20:31.that we do it within the law. Everybody thought, my God, what have
:20:32. > :20:38.you done? You have stirred up a hornet's nest. The MPs' efforts to
:20:39. > :20:43.stir it up even more fell on deaf ears. I try to raise it with
:20:44. > :20:46.newspapers but nobody was running it. I tried raising it with other
:20:47. > :20:50.members of the committee but they were not interested. I tried raising
:20:51. > :20:55.it with successive home secretaries, they simply batted it off and said
:20:56. > :21:01.it was up to the police to investigate.
:21:02. > :21:17.I raised it with the police, they wouldn't touch it.
:21:18. > :21:23.Tony Blair came to power in 2005 with, once again, the backing of the
:21:24. > :21:30.Murdoch machine. But the following year, there are rumblings of
:21:31. > :21:33.discontent within the Labour Party. A group of MPs wanted Tony Blair to
:21:34. > :21:38.make it clear when he would stand aside for Gordon Brown. They were
:21:39. > :21:46.branded a gang of weasels by Rebekah Brooks's the Sun. There was a more
:21:47. > :21:53.sinister and intimidating element, the sense that the News
:21:54. > :21:58.International newspapers were in one political camp and that was Tony
:21:59. > :22:03.Blair's. At the News of the World, Andy Coulson was now editor.
:22:04. > :22:11.Reporters were under increasing pressure to deliver exclusives.
:22:12. > :22:17.People were scared. If you've got to get a story, you've got to get it
:22:18. > :22:22.and you've got to get up by whatever means. Andy Coulson's editorship has
:22:23. > :22:33.been described as the era of industrial phone hacking. At the
:22:34. > :22:47.heart of it, Glenn Mulcaire. No one, it seems, was off-limits. 7/7
:22:48. > :22:49.casualties... Murder victims... Hacking doesn't just happen to
:22:50. > :22:57.celebrities. It happens a lot to real people. Your whole world is
:22:58. > :23:01.completely turned upside down. Patricia banal's daughter, Claire,
:23:02. > :23:08.worked as a beauty consultant at Harvey Nichols in London. In 2005
:23:09. > :23:15.she was so dead in the store by a stalker. -- shot dead. That same
:23:16. > :23:20.day, her murder, the News of the World stuffed a packet of cash
:23:21. > :23:25.through the family's letterbox seeking an interview. 24 hours
:23:26. > :23:30.later, Glenn Mulcaire hacked into Claire's phone. Glenn Mulcaire had
:23:31. > :23:43.been told to gather information a day after her death. They had access
:23:44. > :23:50.to my dead daughter, and to me, that was just the most distressing thing.
:23:51. > :23:57.They would have her personal messages. Claire was a very private
:23:58. > :24:02.person and I will always feel angry about that. Claire's mother knew
:24:03. > :24:07.nothing about her daughter's phone being hacked until police told her
:24:08. > :24:11.six years later. If they talk about their own families, their own
:24:12. > :24:22.children, to cross that line and to do what they did, it's obscene. Did
:24:23. > :24:26.Andy Coulson no hacking was endemic? He claimed he didn't at his trial,
:24:27. > :24:33.but he finally did admit for the first time that he knew it had
:24:34. > :24:36.happened. In 2004, his chief reporter, Neville Thurlbeck, played
:24:37. > :24:39.him intimate recordings left by David Blunkett, who was then Home
:24:40. > :24:46.Secretary, to Mr Blunkett's then lover. Andy Coulson told the court
:24:47. > :24:49.he did not know accessing the messages was illegal, but he was
:24:50. > :24:55.shocked and angry that Neville Thurlbeck had hacked them and told
:24:56. > :24:59.him to stop immediately. But that didn't stop Andy Coulson travelling
:25:00. > :25:04.up to Sheffield to confront David Blunkett about the affair.
:25:05. > :25:06.up to Sheffield to confront David It became very clear to me that
:25:07. > :25:12.something very strange had been going on. It never crossed David
:25:13. > :25:16.Blunkett's mind he was a victim of hacking, believing he had been
:25:17. > :25:21.betrayed by someone close to him. But Andy Coulson gave nothing away.
:25:22. > :25:25.He was not prepared, not only to give any kind of indication of where
:25:26. > :25:35.he had obtained the information from, but any legitimacy in terms of
:25:36. > :25:38.the process he'd adopted. Despite promising he wouldn't damage, two
:25:39. > :25:43.days later the story was splashed all over the News of the World's
:25:44. > :25:49.FrontPage. The Cabinet Ministers became tabloid fodder and resign
:25:50. > :25:59.four months later. -- Cabinet Minister. Later, in a News of the
:26:00. > :26:06.World safe, voice recordings from David Blunkett to his lover were
:26:07. > :26:10.found. I came as close as I could to a breakdown without having one. It
:26:11. > :26:14.probably took the two years to recover. The News of the World had
:26:15. > :26:22.not named his lover about the next day, Rebekah Brooks's the Sun did.
:26:23. > :26:26.Even that did not stop him socialising with its editor. I did
:26:27. > :26:34.not regret that because it did have nothing to do with my willingness to
:26:35. > :26:37.have a sensible and friendly relationship with them. David
:26:38. > :26:44.Blunkett was later hired by the Sun as a columnist and became a paid
:26:45. > :26:52.adviser to News International on social responsibility. By 2005, the
:26:53. > :26:58.News of the World's FrontPage exclusives had won Andy Coulson
:26:59. > :27:01.newspaper of the year. But then a small story by the Royal editor,
:27:02. > :27:05.Clive editor, sowed the seeds of its downfall. Royal aides had long
:27:06. > :27:11.suspected their phones were being hacked. The story of Prince
:27:12. > :27:19.William's knee injury confirmed that. The information could only
:27:20. > :27:22.have come from their phones. They were tripping the alarm bell in the
:27:23. > :27:26.one group of people in this country that had so much prestige that the
:27:27. > :27:31.police would not ignore it. It is the Royal family and they would go
:27:32. > :27:35.after it. Within the past hour, two men have been charged with
:27:36. > :27:38.intercepting voice Bill messages... Clive Goodman and Glenn Mulcaire
:27:39. > :27:49.both pleaded guilty and both were jailed. Editor Andy Coulson said he
:27:50. > :27:52.took responsibility and he resigned. News International said their royal
:27:53. > :27:56.editor was a lone wolf, a rogue reporter. It was 2007, four years
:27:57. > :28:00.before the funeral over phone hacking properly erupted but the
:28:01. > :28:04.judge seemed convinced even then that Glenn Mulcaire had been working
:28:05. > :28:07.with others at News International because he admitted to having hacked
:28:08. > :28:16.the phones of five other people, none of whom had any connection with
:28:17. > :28:20.the Royal family. The Metropolitan Police new and much more besides and
:28:21. > :28:26.had already found the names of 400 hacking target in Glenn Mulcaire
:28:27. > :28:30.Makkah boss notebooks. He's making notes about who he is talking to and
:28:31. > :28:33.the mobile phone companies and so he doesn't lose track, he got into the
:28:34. > :28:39.habit of writing down the first name of whoever it was had asked him in
:28:40. > :28:46.the top left-hand corner. There was a line of clues. James, Greg,
:28:47. > :28:53.Neville. His notes are really the hand grenade in the middle of it.
:28:54. > :28:57.The names on the list included victims of crime, celebrities,
:28:58. > :29:04.politicians, even the Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott. The
:29:05. > :29:07.Metropolitan Police told lawyers reporting to the direct republic
:29:08. > :29:13.prosecutions there was no evidence the phone hacking conspiracy went
:29:14. > :29:17.further. If we had known the truth that, in fact, the police were in
:29:18. > :29:21.possession of evidence that this went much wider, we would've acted
:29:22. > :29:27.upon that. If there were officers who knew the answers were incorrect,
:29:28. > :29:34.it was reprehensible of them to keep quiet about it. Their
:29:35. > :29:38.counterterrorism unit was heading the investigation in what was the
:29:39. > :29:43.busiest period in its history. The 11,000 pages seized from Glenn
:29:44. > :29:47.Mulcaire were not top priority. As soon as they realised it went much
:29:48. > :29:53.wider it should have been passed to the specialist crime directorate
:29:54. > :29:56.because they were far more of a fit with what they were doing than with
:29:57. > :30:04.what antiterrorism and royalty protection were doing. The case
:30:05. > :30:10.stayed with counterterrorism. Its boss's job involves having good
:30:11. > :30:17.relations with the media. But now the unit was investigating crimes by
:30:18. > :30:23.the media. I sense that there were relationships which had become quite
:30:24. > :30:27.personal. Because of the amount of interaction I think some of them
:30:28. > :30:33.were very much in a social setting. And I think that does create
:30:34. > :30:35.difficulties. Andy Heymann was not in day-to-day charge of the
:30:36. > :30:44.investigation but he was briefed about its progress. Before the
:30:45. > :30:49.Metropolitan Police knew the full extent of Glenn Mulcaire's
:30:50. > :30:52.activities, Andy Heymann had dinner with Andy Coulson and another senior
:30:53. > :30:59.executive from the News of the World. Not to have that dinner, I
:31:00. > :31:08.think would've been potentially more suspicious than to have it.
:31:09. > :31:13.Suspicious? I don't know why you are laughing. Because the astonished.
:31:14. > :31:17.I'm sorry. All I can say to you is this, we never ever had a
:31:18. > :31:23.conversation which would compromise an investigation. This initial phone
:31:24. > :31:27.hacking investigation could potentially lead to people very high
:31:28. > :31:34.up in the organisation being accused of criminal offences. For those very
:31:35. > :31:37.people to be meeting with senior officers, who ultimately were
:31:38. > :31:45.responsible for that investigation, is totally inappropriate. Andy
:31:46. > :31:48.Heymann's job meant it was a frequent visitor to Downing Street.
:31:49. > :31:54.When Glenn Mulcaire and Clive Goodman were arrested, the acting
:31:55. > :32:00.Prime Minister was John Prescott. Yet he was never told his name was
:32:01. > :32:05.in Glenn Mulcaire's notes. He never told me. It's clear he knew all the
:32:06. > :32:09.time. To be working next to the guy who's done the investigation, who's
:32:10. > :32:13.got all the information, working with me on security matters, doesn't
:32:14. > :32:17.turn to me and say, watch your phone for the watch your messages. Andy
:32:18. > :32:21.Heymann wouldn't respond to us and has said he saw a list of names in
:32:22. > :32:29.Glenn Mulcaire's notes but there was no clear evidence more than a
:32:30. > :32:32.handful had been hacked. The police didn't breathe a word to John
:32:33. > :32:36.Prescott about him being a target of phone hacking. But there was someone
:32:37. > :32:43.they told, astonishingly, Rebekah Brooks. Not only do they tell about
:32:44. > :32:49.John Prescott, they also told her she had been targeted and much more
:32:50. > :32:52.besides. They had a list of around 100 victims but were unlikely to
:32:53. > :33:01.look at any other suspects without a direct evidence. It shouldn't have
:33:02. > :33:06.happened because I think the organisation is certainly about time
:33:07. > :33:09.had to be seen as a potential suspect because the Metropolitan
:33:10. > :33:15.Police had not unravel the mystery of who was involved, and we would've
:33:16. > :33:19.expected them to be very cautious. They have now apologised for failing
:33:20. > :33:22.to contact all those who had been targeted including some of its own
:33:23. > :33:27.senior officers. But it still haven't explained why it didn't do
:33:28. > :33:32.so. The difficulty for The Met is, by not answering that question, it
:33:33. > :33:36.allows people to speculate Fulford it allows people to say, well, but
:33:37. > :33:41.obviously because they want to cover the whole thing up. After his
:33:42. > :33:47.resignation from the News of the World over the Royal phone hacking,
:33:48. > :33:50.Andy Coulson was hired as head of communications for the Conservative
:33:51. > :33:54.Party. He had been recommended for the job by George Osborne, David
:33:55. > :34:02.Cameron's closest ally. I remember a lot of people mentioning what an
:34:03. > :34:10.unwise decision it was by Cameron to hire this
:34:11. > :34:14.unwise decision it was by Cameron to Andy Coulson. The political sand was
:34:15. > :34:22.again shifting. David Cameron, like Tony Blair before him, was keen to
:34:23. > :34:27.have his moment in the sun. This time, Rupert Murdoch's yacht was
:34:28. > :34:31.anchored off the coast of a Greek island of Santorini. Rebekah Brooks
:34:32. > :34:35.was there, too. From my point of view, it was just an opportunity to
:34:36. > :34:40.try to get to know Rupert Murdoch better. Obviously, I was trying to
:34:41. > :34:43.win over his newspapers and put across my opinion so, for me, it was
:34:44. > :34:49.an opportunity to build a relationship. Although Rupert
:34:50. > :34:52.Murdoch seemed indifferent to the fact David Cameron, who diverted
:34:53. > :35:01.from the family holiday, had made the effort. Mr Cameron may have come
:35:02. > :35:07.to Santa really, to impress me. -- Santorini. Greece was worth Rupert
:35:08. > :35:11.Murdoch Makkah boss daughter celebrated their 40th. Rebekah
:35:12. > :35:15.Brooks paid tribute to getting the special edition of the Sun newspaper
:35:16. > :35:20.mocked up. Soon afterwards, Rebekah Brooks moved here down the road from
:35:21. > :35:24.David Cameron in Oxfordshire Bulldog she married his friend, the
:35:25. > :35:28.racehorse trainer, Charlie Brooks, and Liz Murdoch lived nearby, two
:35:29. > :35:32.and together they became known as the Chipping Norton set. It is
:35:33. > :35:36.almost as if the media and politicians merged. The Murdoch
:35:37. > :35:45.empire and politicians merged. Rebekah Brooks was almost a member
:35:46. > :35:51.of the Shadow Cabinet. We got to know each other because of her Royal
:35:52. > :35:54.in the media and my role in politics because we struck up a French but
:35:55. > :35:59.obviously a la French got stronger when she married Charlie Brooks, who
:36:00. > :36:03.are known for a long time and who is a neighbour. Did you often pop
:36:04. > :36:10.around each other's houses in South Oxfordshire? No, often popping round
:36:11. > :36:14.is definitely overstating the case. We occasionally met in the
:36:15. > :36:21.countryside but it was because I was there every weekend and he was there
:36:22. > :36:28.in his constituency. And David Cameron would also meet Rupert
:36:29. > :36:35.Murdoch's son, James. He told David Cameron the sun would back him at
:36:36. > :36:39.the 2010 general election. As the election date drew nearer, David
:36:40. > :36:45.Cameron and Rebekah Brooks, now Chief Executive of News
:36:46. > :36:49.International, grew closer. I think, as we get closer to the election and
:36:50. > :36:54.the decision of the Sun newspaper, then the level of contact went up,
:36:55. > :37:00.and we saw each other socially. More. On a Sunday, Dave could be out
:37:01. > :37:04.trying to learn what it's like to be an ordinary Joe. What it's like to
:37:05. > :37:07.be a normal person on a Sunday, and what easy doing? Is over there
:37:08. > :37:13.having a glass of champagne with Rebekah at some party among the
:37:14. > :37:19.Chipping Sodbury, or whatever they're called, set. That would also
:37:20. > :37:24.be numerous texts between them. Before he gave a speech to a party
:37:25. > :37:29.conference in 2009, Rebekah Brooks wrote... I am so rooting for you,
:37:30. > :37:33.not just as a proud friend but because professionally, we're in
:37:34. > :37:40.this together. The speech of your life? Yes, he can. It showed a level
:37:41. > :37:46.of intimacy entirely inappropriate. I think that, for him to allow
:37:47. > :37:52.someone like that to be so close was a serious misjudgement. Everybody
:37:53. > :37:55.wants to know how is text messages are signed off. Can you help?
:37:56. > :38:06.Occasionally, he would find them off, " lots of love". Into light
:38:07. > :38:10.tells it meant laugh out loud and then he didn't do that any more.
:38:11. > :38:14.David Cameron has accepted politicians and the media got too
:38:15. > :38:15.close. But he says neither he nor his policies were influenced by
:38:16. > :38:28.support from News International. The Murdoch company had kept a lid
:38:29. > :38:33.on the hacking scandal by paying off those who discovered they had been
:38:34. > :38:39.targeted. But, in 2009, the Guardian made one other settlements public
:38:40. > :38:44.and revealed News International journalists had selected hundreds of
:38:45. > :38:48.people for phone hacking. The Met asked John Yates to see if a fresh
:38:49. > :38:56.investigation was needed. He launched an enquiry the next
:38:57. > :39:01.morning. It was over by tea-time. No additional evidence has come to
:39:02. > :39:08.light since this case has concluded. I therefore consider no further
:39:09. > :39:12.investigation is required. The News International say it doesn't matter.
:39:13. > :39:16.The cops sitting on that information, guy with a straight up
:39:17. > :39:22.edition, comes out and says it and it gives you a cold feeling in the
:39:23. > :39:25.pit of your stomach. The man who had been in overall charge of the
:39:26. > :39:30.original investigation former Assistant Commissioner Andy Heymann,
:39:31. > :39:33.was, by now, a columnist for News International. He wrote in The Times
:39:34. > :39:41.the investigation had left no stone unturned. But we have established
:39:42. > :39:46.that investigation showed Glenn Mulcaire had obtained far more
:39:47. > :39:50.sensitive information than The Met had ever admitted. The details of
:39:51. > :39:58.people on the national witness protection scheme. The witness
:39:59. > :40:03.protection scheme is a very expensive operation to give people
:40:04. > :40:07.who've been convicted very serious offences and people who are very
:40:08. > :40:14.vulnerable witnesses, to give them a completely new identity so they can
:40:15. > :40:18.have a completely fresh start. For that information to get into the
:40:19. > :40:24.hands of journalists is potentially putting people 's lives at risk.
:40:25. > :40:28.Glenn Mulcaire had got the new identities of four of the most
:40:29. > :40:34.notorious names in British criminal history. Including Mary Bell and
:40:35. > :40:40.Robert Thomson, one of the killers of James Bolger. He had been granted
:40:41. > :40:45.a High Court injunction to keep his new identity secret. I would've
:40:46. > :40:51.expected an immediate and thorough investigation to identify how that
:40:52. > :40:56.information had got into the public domain and who was responsible for
:40:57. > :41:01.it, so that we could restore confidence in the witness protection
:41:02. > :41:04.scheme. The News of the World had already printed several articles
:41:05. > :41:12.about Robert Thompson's new life. Now The Met new Glenn Mulcaire had
:41:13. > :41:16.his and others' new identities. I would be surprised if something that
:41:17. > :41:22.sensitivity was not briefed up the command chain to very senior levels.
:41:23. > :41:26.The Met says Glenn Mulcaire got the information I hacking the phones of
:41:27. > :41:31.people close to those in witness protection. It says it found no
:41:32. > :41:39.evidence he paid police officers for the information and has confirmed no
:41:40. > :41:42.further action was taken. But this was so serious you would expect that
:41:43. > :41:48.the News of the World and Glenn Mulcaire would've been reported to
:41:49. > :41:51.the Attorney General. They were not. The Attorney General has confirmed
:41:52. > :41:58.panorama he is now considering whether to take action. Other
:41:59. > :42:02.evidence from the original police investigation was continuing to be
:42:03. > :42:06.unearthed. Including the transcript of a hacked call marked for the News
:42:07. > :42:13.of the World's Chief Reporter, Neville Thurlbeck. John Yates, the
:42:14. > :42:16.man who decided not to reopen the investigation, was again on the
:42:17. > :42:21.spot. Business evidence of an offence being committed. There is no
:42:22. > :42:27.evidence that reading the document is an offence. There was clearly
:42:28. > :42:31.evident staring him in the face. Had he bothered to look at it. I can
:42:32. > :42:36.only assume he didn't want to see the evidence so he could give the
:42:37. > :42:40.committee the denial he did. John Yates says his decision to reopen
:42:41. > :42:45.the enquiry was supported by The Met Machover 's own legal advice and has
:42:46. > :42:48.told us he was never briefed about the witness protection scheme being
:42:49. > :42:58.compromised and says he may well have come to a different conclusion
:42:59. > :43:03.if he had been. Neville Thurlbeck later told Tom Watson that News
:43:04. > :43:11.International put him and fellow MPs on the Select Committee under
:43:12. > :43:15.surveillance. He said we broke you down into twos and wanted to find
:43:16. > :43:18.out who was gay, who was having an affair. They wanted to find
:43:19. > :43:24.everything about committee members which could only be to apply private
:43:25. > :43:32.pressure on individuals. The paper also followed the families of the
:43:33. > :43:37.lawyers suing it over hacking. To film my 14-year-old daughter is
:43:38. > :43:42.deprave. Where was that found? In the offices of the News of the
:43:43. > :43:51.World. My children were two and four at the time and the fear surrounding
:43:52. > :43:58.that Andy upset for my family is something that I think is pretty
:43:59. > :44:03.unforgivable. In May, 2010, the election that David Cameron in
:44:04. > :44:08.Downing Street with Andy Coulson alongside, now the government's head
:44:09. > :44:13.of communications. Lord Prescott had already warned David Cameron wants
:44:14. > :44:18.against hiring Andy Coulson and was astonished. When he appointed him I
:44:19. > :44:21.reminded him publicly that I had warned him about it. It was the
:44:22. > :44:26.second morning. I said, you will live to regret it. Andy Coulson had
:44:27. > :44:31.yet to be given the highest security clearance usually applied to those
:44:32. > :44:35.working in his position. That is very surprising, given he was at the
:44:36. > :44:41.heart of government and close to the Prime Minister. It does seem very
:44:42. > :44:45.difficult to explain. David Cameron has said that Andy Coulson was given
:44:46. > :44:57.the appropriate level of security clearance when he was appointed.
:44:58. > :45:03.Sean Hall was about of a con the first former News of the World
:45:04. > :45:10.journalist to go on the record. -- was about to become. He was about to
:45:11. > :45:14.be hung out to dry, which I thought was wrong. Knowing the culture in
:45:15. > :45:21.the establishment and how it operates, I just felt a sense of
:45:22. > :45:25.injustice at the end of the day. In September, 2010, he told the New
:45:26. > :45:28.York Times that his old friend Andy Coulson must have known about phone
:45:29. > :45:33.hacking at the News of the World. That was the moment I think within
:45:34. > :45:42.Scotland Yard where people started asking questions and politically it
:45:43. > :45:47.had an effect. When police interviewed Sean, he was surprised
:45:48. > :45:57.to be treated not as a witness but a suspect, so he told them nothing.
:45:58. > :46:01.When I was interviewed by by the Met, Scotland Yard, they asked me a
:46:02. > :46:11.series of questions and I decided to exercise my right of no comment.
:46:12. > :46:18.News International have already used his problems with drink and drugs to
:46:19. > :46:23.discredit him. To take an individual and then try to chop him down the
:46:24. > :46:35.way they did Sean I think is unforgivable. Sean Mackle one died
:46:36. > :46:50.in 2011, so he never got to see Andy Coulson stand trial. -- Sean Mackle
:46:51. > :46:53.one. -- Sean Hoare. What had started as a newspaper scandal had now
:46:54. > :47:01.reached deep into David Cameron's Number Ten. People had tried to tell
:47:02. > :47:06.him about a get he disregarded the advice. And so, he associated
:47:07. > :47:13.himself with a group of people who had been part of a criminal
:47:14. > :47:15.conspiracy. He showed wretched judgement and it will permanently
:47:16. > :47:22.damage his reputation as British Prime Minister. David Cameron has
:47:23. > :47:25.said he had accepted the consistent assurances given by Andy Coulson
:47:26. > :47:37.that he had no involvement in phone hacking. News International wanted
:47:38. > :47:40.to save its own reputation. After years of denying phone hacking it
:47:41. > :47:46.finally handed over evidence to police. By then the Met had launched
:47:47. > :47:56.a new enquiry. It would properly scrutinise the documents seized from
:47:57. > :48:01.Glenn Mulcaire years before. I was the first lawyer to see the papers
:48:02. > :48:05.so I was very excited. Many hacking victims were celebrities. The media
:48:06. > :48:14.lawyer represented some of them, including Leslie Ash, who is married
:48:15. > :48:20.name is Chapman. The officer showed me the papers. It said Leslie
:48:21. > :48:27.Chapman, and then it had an address, it said full, and there was
:48:28. > :48:42.a postcode. But it was not about the actress. I looked at it and I said,
:48:43. > :48:59.it says Soham, and Leslie Chapman was one of the murdered girl 's'
:49:00. > :49:03.father. This was a victim of crime. With increasing evidence of serious
:49:04. > :49:09.criminal activity, the scandal was now a threat to the wider Murdoch
:49:10. > :49:13.empire. This did not stop News International going ahead with its
:49:14. > :49:17.annual summer party and, as usual, many of the most powerful people in
:49:18. > :49:27.Britain turned up to rub shoulders with Rupert and Rebecca. -- Rebekah
:49:28. > :49:32.Brooks. Turn to your right and you see a Bishop, 20 right you would see
:49:33. > :49:42.David Cameron. Then you would see Ed Balls, Ed Miliband. As rain brought
:49:43. > :49:53.the party to an early close, one family was learning just how far his
:49:54. > :49:56.newspapers would go to get a story. The Dowler family were finally told
:49:57. > :50:04.by police that Milly Dowler's phone had been hacked. They realise it was
:50:05. > :50:12.serious. They realised the game was up. It was not possible to tell
:50:13. > :50:15.ally. It was no longer possible to say it was a rogue reporter. There
:50:16. > :50:20.was a moment of catharsis where people said, yes, there was
:50:21. > :50:27.something very ugly in British public life that had gone wrong and
:50:28. > :50:32.that must never happen again. The government reacted to the outcry by
:50:33. > :50:35.setting up a massive public enquiry here at the Royal Courts of just
:50:36. > :50:42.into the rot at the heart of the British press and the relationship
:50:43. > :50:45.between politicians and police. What Lord Leveson wanted to know was what
:50:46. > :50:57.had gone wrong and who knew what and when. I happened to be by the
:50:58. > :51:01.swimming pool with very close friends that I was on holiday with.
:51:02. > :51:11.The conversation did not take very long. In 2006, Tessa Jowell was
:51:12. > :51:14.Culture Secretary, responsible for media regulation, when police rang
:51:15. > :51:17.and said she had been hacked by News International. She told Lord Leveson
:51:18. > :51:26.she informed some of her Cabinet colleagues. Their rich reaction --
:51:27. > :51:35.their reaction was also one of shock, but sympathy and concern for
:51:36. > :51:41.me. They are people who are friends as much as they were then
:51:42. > :51:45.distinguished members of the Cabinet. Panorama has asked Tessa
:51:46. > :51:52.Jowell who she told in Cabinet. She says she can't remember. So, who was
:51:53. > :51:55.told? We understand the police briefed the Home Office, the Cabinet
:51:56. > :52:02.Office and MI5 about their investigation. My expectation would
:52:03. > :52:05.be ministers and potentially be Home Secretary would be briefed on that
:52:06. > :52:13.type of investigation, because of its indications that had chilli for
:52:14. > :52:15.national security. The then Home Secretary, John Reid, has said he
:52:16. > :52:23.wasn't briefed about the investigation. So, who in Cabinet
:52:24. > :52:31.did no? John Prescott wasn't told by the police but Tessa Jowell was. She
:52:32. > :52:35.told some colleagues. So, did Tony Blair no? I find it very difficult
:52:36. > :52:39.to believe that if those ministers in 2006 happen to have knowledge
:52:40. > :52:43.they did not tell Tony Blair. He must answer for what he knew and
:52:44. > :52:51.what conversations he had with people. If he did know and had not
:52:52. > :52:56.been told, I would be surprised. You will have to ask him. We did. He
:52:57. > :53:00.told us that as far as he can recall, he knew nothing about the
:53:01. > :53:09.details of the hacking enquiry or who may have been targeted. Whoever
:53:10. > :53:11.actually knew, no member of the Cabinet admitted in public to
:53:12. > :53:20.knowledge that phone hacking went wider than what had been disclosed.
:53:21. > :53:24.The day after the Milly Dowler story broke, Tony Blair e-mailed Rebekah
:53:25. > :53:28.Brooks saying, let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
:53:29. > :53:32.Thinking of you. I have been through things like this. It emerged in
:53:33. > :53:38.court that Rebekah Brooks called Tony Blair, taking him up on his
:53:39. > :53:43.offer of support. In an hour-long phone call, Tony Blair told Rebekah
:53:44. > :53:49.Brooks to keep strong, tough up, and he even offered to act as an
:53:50. > :53:56.official adviser to her and the Murdochs on a "between us" basis.
:53:57. > :54:02.His advice, set up and enquiry headed by the former rector of
:54:03. > :54:10.public prosecutions, Ken MacDonald. I politely declined. Surely Tony
:54:11. > :54:14.Blair should have phoned the Dowler family and said, is there anything I
:54:15. > :54:17.can do to help? His interest was not in helping people, it was an
:54:18. > :54:24.interest in helping his small clique of friends. In a statement Tony
:54:25. > :54:28.Blair told us he is not a fair weather friend. His advice to
:54:29. > :54:32.Rebekah Brooks was informal. He knew nothing about the facts of the case
:54:33. > :54:36.but thought it essential to have a fully transparent and independent
:54:37. > :54:43.process to get to the bottom of what had happened. Four days later,
:54:44. > :55:00.Rupert Murdoch flew into London to apologise to the Dowler family. Did
:55:01. > :55:05.you apologise? Suddenly, nobody wants to be Rupert Murdoch friend.
:55:06. > :55:11.Rupert Murdoch's friend. All those politicians said, we never really
:55:12. > :55:15.trusted the guy. Rupert Murdoch withdrew his bid for full ownership
:55:16. > :55:22.of BSkyB, the first challenge to his 45 year March through the British
:55:23. > :55:26.media. At Scotland Yard, the Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson
:55:27. > :55:32.resigned, as did John Yates. But questions remain for the Met. It was
:55:33. > :55:38.a failure, whatever way you dress it up. We have to be confident that the
:55:39. > :55:42.police can act without fear or favour if there are doubts about the
:55:43. > :55:49.thoroughness of an investigation. It is probably appropriate that an
:55:50. > :55:53.outside force or Her Majesty's inspectorate come in and make sure
:55:54. > :55:57.it is done to the standard we all expect. Andy Coulson is now
:55:58. > :56:00.condemned as the tabloid editor who built his career on the systematic
:56:01. > :56:06.criminal hacking of hundreds of people's films. But questions remain
:56:07. > :56:12.about how he went on to work at the heart of government. I was given
:56:13. > :56:16.assurances that he did not know about phone hacking. That turns out
:56:17. > :56:20.not to be the case. I was always clear if that happened, I would
:56:21. > :56:25.apologise, and I do so unreservedly today. David Cameron's former spin
:56:26. > :56:30.doctor is now facing prison, as is the man who hacked phones for him,
:56:31. > :56:33.Glenn Mulcaire. He had already pleaded guilty, along with former
:56:34. > :56:38.journalists from the News of the World. The police and the judiciary
:56:39. > :56:42.have finally moved on and done their job. But, it would be a mistake to
:56:43. > :56:49.think that the problems which we were exposing have actually been
:56:50. > :56:54.solved. The hacking scandal has revealed that four years,
:56:55. > :56:58.politicians, police and the press enjoyed far too close a
:56:59. > :57:02.relationship. So close, it seems widespread criminality was
:57:03. > :57:07.overlooked. Authorities on both sides of the Atlantic are
:57:08. > :57:14.considering corporate prosecutions against Rupert Murdoch's Empire and
:57:15. > :57:16.with other papers under investigation, the hacking scandal
:57:17. > :57:28.is far from over.