Isis: Terror in Iraq

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0:00:02 > 0:00:05Contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

0:00:05 > 0:00:06'Iraq is being torn apart.'

0:00:06 > 0:00:08- Come with me!- Down here!

0:00:08 > 0:00:12'Tonight, Panorama reports from the heart of the fighting.'

0:00:15 > 0:00:17'The battle is against ISIS,

0:00:17 > 0:00:20'a brutal jihadi group that grew out of Al-Qaeda.'

0:00:20 > 0:00:22SHOUTING

0:00:22 > 0:00:24'It's declared an Islamic state.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27'We hear the story of ISIS from the inside.'

0:00:27 > 0:00:29This is the place.

0:00:29 > 0:00:31- TRANSLATION:- They put two corpses down there

0:00:31 > 0:00:33and the heads up there.

0:00:33 > 0:00:36TRANSLATION: You're either with me or against me.

0:00:36 > 0:00:38If you are against me, you will be killed.

0:00:38 > 0:00:42- TRANSLATION:- We would receive orders to kill a specific person.

0:00:44 > 0:00:49'But could the conflict eventually spill out of the Middle East?

0:00:49 > 0:00:51'We talk to a British jihadi.'

0:00:51 > 0:00:55If you don't leave our Muslim brothers around the globe

0:00:55 > 0:00:57and mind your own business,

0:00:57 > 0:00:59then you can expect these attacks.

0:01:26 > 0:01:28We are in Northern Iraq.

0:01:28 > 0:01:30These are the Kurds.

0:01:31 > 0:01:33They have their own military

0:01:33 > 0:01:35and they're in their own fight with ISIS.

0:01:37 > 0:01:40The General is talking to a tribal sheik

0:01:40 > 0:01:43who's pledged loyalty to the jihadis.

0:01:43 > 0:01:45"Turn over the foreign fighters in your town,"

0:01:45 > 0:01:48the General says, "or there will be blood."

0:02:06 > 0:02:09The General's appeal fails.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16In the next town, they're Sunni Muslim.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18They've joined with ISIS

0:02:18 > 0:02:21to rebel against Iraq's Shia Muslim-led government.

0:02:26 > 0:02:28THEY SHOUT

0:02:30 > 0:02:34ISIS is a Sunni jihadi group that grew out of Al-Qaeda

0:02:34 > 0:02:37and which has now eclipsed it in power and violence.

0:02:41 > 0:02:42Kurd and Arab,

0:02:42 > 0:02:43Sunni and Shi'ite -

0:02:43 > 0:02:48Iraq is tearing itself apart along its many fault lines.

0:02:48 > 0:02:50ISIS is the catalyst.

0:02:58 > 0:03:00- How are you?- How are you, mate?

0:03:00 > 0:03:04'Lahur Talabani grew up a refugee from Saddam Hussein

0:03:04 > 0:03:07'in Beckenham, south London.'

0:03:07 > 0:03:11We were under attack from different directions last night.

0:03:11 > 0:03:14You saw the fighting when it started

0:03:14 > 0:03:17until five o'clock in the morning, from all directions.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23'Now, the former business management student

0:03:23 > 0:03:26'is head of Kurdish intelligence.'

0:03:26 > 0:03:28What kind of enemy is ISIS?

0:03:28 > 0:03:31A very dangerous enemy.

0:03:31 > 0:03:35An enemy that has attracted forces from all over the world,

0:03:35 > 0:03:37that have come here to fight.

0:03:37 > 0:03:40And they are willing to die for what they believe in.

0:03:41 > 0:03:46A Kurdish unit moves carefully into the small-town of Jalawla.

0:03:46 > 0:03:49ISIS wants it for their new Islamic state

0:03:49 > 0:03:51declared across parts of Iraq and Syria.

0:03:52 > 0:03:55The Kurdish fighters, known as Peshmerga,

0:03:55 > 0:03:57are trying to stop them.

0:04:03 > 0:04:05THEY CALL TO EACH OTHER

0:04:09 > 0:04:12The battle is over by the time we arrive.

0:04:15 > 0:04:17But the Kurdish fighters believe

0:04:17 > 0:04:21ISIS reinforcements are being sent to the outskirts of town.

0:04:21 > 0:04:23CHATTER

0:04:25 > 0:04:28OK, I think we need to be out on foot. Yeah, turn around.

0:04:28 > 0:04:31Let's get into cover, here, and then we get out on foot.

0:04:37 > 0:04:39Don't point...Ah, down, down, down!

0:04:39 > 0:04:43GUNSHOTS

0:04:43 > 0:04:44'They spot movement.'

0:04:49 > 0:04:50Get behind cover!

0:04:52 > 0:04:55Guys, come with me. Come with me, come with me!

0:04:55 > 0:04:56Down here, down here, down here.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00'Bullets come in from several different directions.'

0:05:00 > 0:05:02OK, OK, OK.

0:05:04 > 0:05:06Jalawla. Jalawla!

0:05:06 > 0:05:09THEY SHOUT

0:05:14 > 0:05:17The Peshmerga thought they had secured this place,

0:05:17 > 0:05:21but they've just been told of 75 vehicles with ISIS fighters

0:05:21 > 0:05:23making their way here to try to cut them off.

0:05:23 > 0:05:27GUNSHOTS AND EXPLOSIONS

0:05:27 > 0:05:29The battle is going backwards and forwards.

0:05:29 > 0:05:33Things are still very fluid, here.

0:05:33 > 0:05:35We are with half a dozen men who are trapped

0:05:35 > 0:05:37with ISIS on three sides.

0:05:37 > 0:05:40You need to find the most senior commander you can find

0:05:40 > 0:05:43and get them to get the troops... Can you hear me?

0:05:43 > 0:05:45'There is growing panic.

0:05:45 > 0:05:48'They think the jihadis are coming in through the back of the building

0:05:48 > 0:05:51'and know what ISIS does to prisoners.

0:05:51 > 0:05:55'Everyone here expects to be shot or beheaded if captured.'

0:06:06 > 0:06:09FRANTIC SHOUTING CONTINUES

0:06:09 > 0:06:11'This man was shot through the leg.'

0:06:16 > 0:06:19It turns out this was not the main ISIS force,

0:06:19 > 0:06:22but a smaller attack.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25THEY CONTINUE TO SHOUT

0:06:27 > 0:06:30'The group attracts foreign jihadis from around the world.

0:06:30 > 0:06:34'Here, the Peshmerga think ISIS was trying to recover

0:06:34 > 0:06:37'the bodies of foreigners so they couldn't be identified.'

0:06:39 > 0:06:42The bodies that we captured, none of them were Iraqis.

0:06:42 > 0:06:45And then we noticed that they were trying very, very hard

0:06:45 > 0:06:48not to leave anybody behind, even their dead.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51The ones that they did leave behind, as many as they could,

0:06:51 > 0:06:54they would destroy their faces.

0:06:54 > 0:06:57They would just empty a whole magazine of bullets

0:06:57 > 0:06:59into their faces and completely destroy their faces

0:06:59 > 0:07:02so we wouldn't be able to recognise them.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04We know there are...the numbers of Brits

0:07:04 > 0:07:08that have joined the fight in Syria

0:07:08 > 0:07:11with ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra

0:07:11 > 0:07:13is around 400.

0:07:13 > 0:07:17We believe around 200 of those guys are still amongst those forces.

0:07:17 > 0:07:19Do you think there are Brits on this front line?

0:07:19 > 0:07:23We haven't seen any evidence, even though, yesterday,

0:07:23 > 0:07:26one of the casualties of ISIS that was killed,

0:07:26 > 0:07:28he was wearing these particular gloves

0:07:28 > 0:07:32which is Gold's Gym in Surrey, I think.

0:07:32 > 0:07:36Very particular gloves that they sell in that gym!

0:07:36 > 0:07:40So he was a foreign fighter, Arab nationality.

0:07:44 > 0:07:47ISIS has swept over a third of Iraq.

0:07:49 > 0:07:51Mosul, Tikrit,

0:07:51 > 0:07:53the approaches to Baghdad.

0:07:53 > 0:07:57They now call themselves simply The Islamic State.

0:07:57 > 0:08:00The captured towns are majority Sunni.

0:08:00 > 0:08:02CARS TOOT

0:08:02 > 0:08:05GUNSHOTS

0:08:09 > 0:08:11Some Sunni tribes helped ISIS

0:08:11 > 0:08:15because of what they say is years of persecution

0:08:15 > 0:08:17by Iraq's Shi'ite-led government.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21Another reason a few thousand ISIS fighters

0:08:21 > 0:08:25were able to put 100,000 Iraqi troops to flight...

0:08:26 > 0:08:28Terror.

0:08:30 > 0:08:33This is The Islamic State's own Twitter feed.

0:08:36 > 0:08:41ISIS claims it executed more than 1,700 prisoners

0:08:41 > 0:08:42in the town of Tikrit.

0:08:47 > 0:08:48We found a deserter,

0:08:48 > 0:08:53whose whole battalion fled without firing a single shot -

0:08:53 > 0:08:55ISIS still 20 miles away.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02- TRANSLATION:- The morale of the soldiers was shaken.

0:09:02 > 0:09:05We were serving at checkpoints.

0:09:05 > 0:09:07The other troops withdrew from their areas,

0:09:07 > 0:09:11even the high ranking officers and the Lieutenant Colonel left.

0:09:12 > 0:09:16The Sunni troops did not want to fight other Sunnis.

0:09:18 > 0:09:23The Shia soldiers had no interest in defending Sunni towns.

0:09:23 > 0:09:26- TRANSLATION:- The Army is not to blame.

0:09:26 > 0:09:28It's the officials who are responsible

0:09:28 > 0:09:31for putting the Army in such a situation.

0:09:31 > 0:09:34We wanted to fight but when we saw what was happening,

0:09:34 > 0:09:36the troops just collapsed.

0:09:36 > 0:09:38Some soldiers cried.

0:09:38 > 0:09:40They asked, "Why is this happening?"

0:09:40 > 0:09:44Nobody was shooting at us, the enemy was nowhere near.

0:09:46 > 0:09:48Some Sunnis support ISIS

0:09:48 > 0:09:52but the Iraqi army's humiliation leaves millions of others trapped

0:09:52 > 0:09:55under a new and terrifying regime.

0:09:58 > 0:10:02We can't travel to The Islamic State to see conditions for ourselves.

0:10:02 > 0:10:05They arrest Western journalists as spies.

0:10:05 > 0:10:10Instead, we're heading into parts of Syria that WERE held by ISIS

0:10:10 > 0:10:14to find out what life is like under their rule.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16That journey starts in Turkey.

0:10:18 > 0:10:21Turkey's border with Syria is a hinterland of safe houses

0:10:21 > 0:10:23and supply lines.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25It's been used as a rear operating base

0:10:25 > 0:10:28by both the Free Syrian Army and by ISIS.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31The Islamic State is no longer welcome here

0:10:31 > 0:10:35and so you can find many Syrians who are in hiding from ISIS.

0:10:42 > 0:10:44We are meeting an ISIS defector.

0:10:46 > 0:10:50Why do you have to disguise yourself for this interview?

0:10:50 > 0:10:53- TRANSLATION:- ISIS's brutality terrifies everyone.

0:10:53 > 0:10:55Not only me.

0:10:57 > 0:11:01My family, my cousins, my siblings are all still there.

0:11:01 > 0:11:03I fear for them all.

0:11:03 > 0:11:06HE CONTINUES IN OWN LANGUAGE

0:11:11 > 0:11:13'He joined ISIS as they were better armed

0:11:13 > 0:11:17'and because he was attracted by the promise of an Islamic state.'

0:11:20 > 0:11:24- TRANSLATION:- In the beginning, ISIS were kind to the population

0:11:24 > 0:11:27in order to attract people to their cause.

0:11:27 > 0:11:29And they provided them with what they needed

0:11:29 > 0:11:32in order to appeal to them quickly.

0:11:32 > 0:11:35HE CONTINUES

0:11:37 > 0:11:40- TRANSLATION:- Once ISIS succeeded in attracting people,

0:11:40 > 0:11:43they changed dramatically from being good

0:11:43 > 0:11:45to being cruel and harsh.

0:11:49 > 0:11:53You are either with me or against me.

0:11:53 > 0:11:55There is nothing in between.

0:11:55 > 0:11:58If you are against me, then you will be killed.

0:12:02 > 0:12:06He left because he was sickened by what he witnessed.

0:12:06 > 0:12:10Fearing for his own life, he knew he had to flee.

0:12:12 > 0:12:17- TRANSLATION:- My last meeting was with the emir about some business.

0:12:17 > 0:12:20On his way out, I shot him three times.

0:12:20 > 0:12:24I heard him scream and then I packed my rifle and ran.

0:12:24 > 0:12:27I tried not to leave any traces behind me.

0:12:27 > 0:12:31Then, with the help of some people on the border,

0:12:31 > 0:12:33I was able to get into Turkey.

0:12:38 > 0:12:40This is the road to Syria.

0:12:40 > 0:12:42We're crossing into territory

0:12:42 > 0:12:45that until recently would have been impossible to visit.

0:12:49 > 0:12:53Half an hour over the border is the town of Azaz.

0:12:53 > 0:12:56ISIS seized control here last September...

0:12:57 > 0:13:00..and implemented strict sharia,

0:13:00 > 0:13:02or the ISIS version of it.

0:13:02 > 0:13:05- Salam.- Salam.

0:13:05 > 0:13:07The jihadis used the town's main roundabout

0:13:07 > 0:13:09to carry out floggings and beheadings.

0:13:11 > 0:13:14- Salamu Aleykom.- Wa Alaykom el Salam.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17'We meet a resident who saw it all.'

0:13:17 > 0:13:20So this is the place?

0:13:20 > 0:13:22HE BEGINS RESPONDING

0:13:24 > 0:13:27TRANSLATION: They brought four men from the Free Syrian Army

0:13:27 > 0:13:29and they slaughtered them here.

0:13:32 > 0:13:37They put two corpses down there and the heads up there

0:13:37 > 0:13:40and then left them from Friday morning prayers

0:13:40 > 0:13:41till the afternoon.

0:13:45 > 0:13:48Under ISIS, people were flogged for infringing the dress code

0:13:48 > 0:13:50or for smoking.

0:13:52 > 0:13:55These nightmarish scenes are difficult to watch.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58The jihadis sentence their enemies to death.

0:14:02 > 0:14:04A ghoulish crowd watched the spectacle.

0:14:06 > 0:14:10TRANSLATION: It's utterly shocking.

0:14:10 > 0:14:14Slaughtering a human being, to them, is like killing a bird.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17THE CROWD CHEERS

0:14:17 > 0:14:20Not only that but they also mutilate the corpses.

0:14:20 > 0:14:22They slaughter them,

0:14:22 > 0:14:25then hang the bodies up for four or five hours in the sun.

0:14:25 > 0:14:27Did most people in Azaz support this practice?

0:14:27 > 0:14:29Because I've seen video of people cheering,

0:14:29 > 0:14:32people are happy that this is happening.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34TRANSLATION: Nobody dared to say a word

0:14:34 > 0:14:37because they were scared of being killed.

0:14:37 > 0:14:40Anybody could be falsely accused of working for the FSA

0:14:40 > 0:14:41and be slaughtered.

0:14:44 > 0:14:48That's not an Islamic act, nor the actions of a human being.

0:14:48 > 0:14:52The West seems to think all Syrians are extremists. No!

0:14:52 > 0:14:55We are very moderate in our Islam.

0:14:55 > 0:14:56ISIS could do this

0:14:56 > 0:14:59because their view of Islam is actually shared by some people here?

0:14:59 > 0:15:00Do you agree with that?

0:15:00 > 0:15:05No, they are not popular at all.

0:15:05 > 0:15:08We completely disassociate ourselves from them.

0:15:08 > 0:15:12They imposed themselves on us using military force.

0:15:12 > 0:15:14So what we're hearing from the gentleman is an account of how

0:15:14 > 0:15:16ISIS ruled with the whip and with the sword.

0:15:16 > 0:15:19And that comes from their very literal interpretation of Islam.

0:15:19 > 0:15:22They wish to go back to what they see as a more pure form

0:15:22 > 0:15:24of Islam, from the Prophet's time.

0:15:24 > 0:15:27It may also be part of a very deliberate strategy.

0:15:27 > 0:15:30What took place here was an attempt

0:15:30 > 0:15:33to break society in order to re-make it.

0:15:33 > 0:15:36You need a lot of violence and a lot of bloodshed to do that.

0:15:40 > 0:15:46When ISIS were driven out of Azaz in March, they left behind mass graves.

0:15:48 > 0:15:53We obtained video taken from the mobile phone of an ISIS fighter.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55It shows those they've killed.

0:15:56 > 0:15:59THEY CONVERSE IN THEIR OWN TONGUE

0:16:00 > 0:16:03Their bodies are dragged along like sacks of rubbish.

0:16:11 > 0:16:13- TRANSLATION:- The Islamic State is using Islam

0:16:13 > 0:16:15as a cover for their extremism.

0:16:17 > 0:16:20No freedom of opinion exists.

0:16:20 > 0:16:23Any legitimate Islamic practice that might threaten the goals

0:16:23 > 0:16:26of the Islamic State is considered a sin.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32They practice Islam in appearance only, and to control minds.

0:16:42 > 0:16:45The thought that such a state could become a permanent fixture

0:16:45 > 0:16:49in the Middle East horrifies Iraq's neighbours, and the wider world.

0:16:55 > 0:16:59We arrive in Baghdad to find out how Iraq's government is fighting back.

0:17:04 > 0:17:07Government troops are on the offensive around the capital.

0:17:07 > 0:17:09Inside, the city is on edge.

0:17:11 > 0:17:15Tensions between Sunni and Shia are stretched to breaking point.

0:17:30 > 0:17:33The Iraqi police believe that hidden amongst the Sunni population

0:17:33 > 0:17:37are more than 2,000 ISIS sleeper agents.

0:17:47 > 0:17:49The general in charge of finding them tells me

0:17:49 > 0:17:51they've arrested a very dangerous man.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56The deputy commander of an ISIS hit squad.

0:18:06 > 0:18:10- TRANSLATION:- During this whole period we didn't do much.

0:18:10 > 0:18:14We were dormant this last year. We were told to sit and wait.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18But about four or five months ago,

0:18:18 > 0:18:21I received orders to reorganise and activate our cell.

0:18:24 > 0:18:27We would receive orders to kill a specific person.

0:18:30 > 0:18:34We carried out the murder of a member of a local council.

0:18:38 > 0:18:42Was there any preparation of car bombs or was it all assassinations?

0:18:42 > 0:18:45No, we don't use car bombs. We conduct assassinations.

0:18:45 > 0:18:49However, we did use a sticky bomb to assassinate the city councillor.

0:18:49 > 0:18:51We also used a sticky bomb in the assassination

0:18:51 > 0:18:53of a Sunni tribal leader.

0:18:53 > 0:18:57Are you paid a salary or do you do this out of belief, these actions?

0:18:57 > 0:19:01No, we don't do this for money. It's for our faith.

0:19:01 > 0:19:03However, there is a salary too.

0:19:03 > 0:19:05The going rate for an ISIS killer?

0:19:05 > 0:19:08About 250 a month.

0:19:10 > 0:19:14I told our commander that I wanted to leave the group.

0:19:14 > 0:19:18He replied that nobody can quit this kind of work.

0:19:28 > 0:19:30Shi'ites at prayer.

0:19:30 > 0:19:34To defeat ISIS, the country will have to come together.

0:19:34 > 0:19:37But people are retreating into their own communities.

0:19:43 > 0:19:49After worship, men flock to join up. But not the police or army.

0:19:49 > 0:19:51The Shi'ite militias.

0:19:57 > 0:20:01Shield of the Message is one of those militias.

0:20:01 > 0:20:04Shi'ites have been killed in large numbers by ISIS.

0:20:04 > 0:20:06This is the response.

0:20:07 > 0:20:09These are the true believers.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12Unlike the Iraqi Army, these men will stand and fight.

0:20:20 > 0:20:22They take us to the nearest front line

0:20:22 > 0:20:28half an hour out of Baghdad on the road to Fallujah.

0:20:30 > 0:20:33This is where ISIS will have to be stopped.

0:20:36 > 0:20:37THEY CHANT

0:20:44 > 0:20:47No-one can doubt their fervour.

0:20:47 > 0:20:48But they're volunteers.

0:20:48 > 0:20:52Labourers, businessmen and taxi drivers.

0:20:52 > 0:20:57These men are entrusted with the western defence of the capital.

0:20:57 > 0:20:58They say they fight for the state

0:20:58 > 0:21:01but they speak the language of jihad.

0:21:03 > 0:21:05- TRANSLATION:- We are committed to God,

0:21:05 > 0:21:07his prophet and his family, in death or in victory.

0:21:07 > 0:21:10With the help of God, let the rats hear us.

0:21:10 > 0:21:12Let ISIS hear us.

0:21:12 > 0:21:16We are not the ones who fled from Mosul. We are here to die.

0:21:16 > 0:21:19We don't want salaries. We don't want anything.

0:21:19 > 0:21:23We came here for martyrdom. We came here for martyrdom.

0:21:23 > 0:21:25CHANTING RESUMES

0:21:30 > 0:21:33They insist they will fight for nation, not sect.

0:21:36 > 0:21:38But to Sunnis, nothing's more frightening

0:21:38 > 0:21:40than a Shi'ite militia on the march.

0:21:44 > 0:21:46CHANTING CONTINUES

0:22:00 > 0:22:02The coffin is for a Sunni man.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05He went to hospital with a cousin.

0:22:05 > 0:22:09Both were abducted right under the noses of the security forces.

0:22:11 > 0:22:13His family blame a Shi'ite militia.

0:22:18 > 0:22:22- TRANSLATION:- He told me that he was scared of going to hospital.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24He said, "You stay here and work

0:22:24 > 0:22:27"because I'm worried something might happen."

0:22:27 > 0:22:28That's what he said.

0:22:32 > 0:22:35When we tried to call them at around two o'clock,

0:22:35 > 0:22:38their mobiles were switched off.

0:22:38 > 0:22:41We went to find them and we found them in Al-Hurya.

0:22:45 > 0:22:47They'd been killed.

0:22:51 > 0:22:54No-one, including the police, can say anything to them.

0:22:54 > 0:22:57No-one can hold them to account.

0:22:57 > 0:22:59We're even afraid of them in the streets.

0:23:02 > 0:23:05But they are not, yet, turning to ISIS.

0:23:07 > 0:23:10- TRANSLATION:- ISIS doesn't even represent

0:23:10 > 0:23:1110% of the revolutionaries.

0:23:12 > 0:23:17If you give them their rights, this whole thing would be over.

0:23:17 > 0:23:18Even a goat herder knows this.

0:23:25 > 0:23:28The Sunnis here don't want to rebel against Baghdad, but they feel

0:23:28 > 0:23:31they can't turn to the government or to the police for help.

0:23:31 > 0:23:34So they're stuck, between the Shi'ite militias on the one hand,

0:23:34 > 0:23:37and the jihadis of the Islamic State on the other.

0:23:45 > 0:23:49The Prime Minister they so mistrust, Nouri al-Maliki,

0:23:49 > 0:23:50trying to rally the nation.

0:24:00 > 0:24:04He is accused of running a sectarian government, of tolerating

0:24:04 > 0:24:08death squads, of keeping money and power for the Shia.

0:24:09 > 0:24:11He carries a lot of the blame.

0:24:11 > 0:24:16Maliki created a Shia-dominated state in which Sunni were marginalised.

0:24:18 > 0:24:22There are villages outside Fallujah, Sunni villages,

0:24:22 > 0:24:24where most of the young men are in jail.

0:24:25 > 0:24:30Many of them confess to capital crimes, under torture.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33Sometimes they are on death row for crimes

0:24:33 > 0:24:36that somebody else has already been executed for.

0:24:37 > 0:24:42So no wonder that if you're a Sunni young man from these places,

0:24:42 > 0:24:47joining ISIS doesn't seem that much more dangerous than staying at home.

0:24:51 > 0:24:54If Prime Minister Maliki can't gain the Sunnis' confidence

0:24:54 > 0:24:56and persuade them to fight the jihadis,

0:24:56 > 0:24:59a third of the country will belong to this man.

0:25:00 > 0:25:03Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, leader of ISIS.

0:25:15 > 0:25:17The new Caliph, as he calls himself,

0:25:17 > 0:25:20takes Friday prayers at Mosul's Grand Mosque.

0:25:21 > 0:25:25To make way for Baghdadi, ISIS killed the existing Imam,

0:25:25 > 0:25:29according to the UN, as well as a dozen other clerics.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32All refused to swear allegiance to the Islamic State.

0:25:34 > 0:25:37This sermon seems to promise global jihad.

0:25:52 > 0:25:57The "Caliph" says all Muslims should come to his new empire.

0:25:57 > 0:26:01It's thought that hundreds of young Britons have already joined ISIS.

0:26:03 > 0:26:05I spoke to one man on Skype

0:26:05 > 0:26:09who says he's a British jihadist with ISIS in Syria.

0:26:09 > 0:26:12He calls himself Abu Summayyah al Britaani,

0:26:12 > 0:26:16and says he's on the waiting list to be a suicide bomber.

0:26:16 > 0:26:18Everybody's got their name on the list

0:26:18 > 0:26:22and everybody is forcing the Emir to put their name, to push it up,

0:26:22 > 0:26:25and everybody wants to fight for the sake of Allah.

0:26:26 > 0:26:29He denies that he and other foreigners in ISIS

0:26:29 > 0:26:33are being trained to carry out attacks back home.

0:26:35 > 0:26:38They've even destroyed their passports.

0:26:44 > 0:26:45But that could change

0:26:45 > 0:26:48if the West intervenes against the Islamic State.

0:26:54 > 0:26:57If the British Government commits terror against our people,

0:26:57 > 0:27:01is unjust towards our people, kills and murders and rapes our people,

0:27:01 > 0:27:06then you can expect attacks on your soil.

0:27:06 > 0:27:10If you don't leave our Muslim brothers around the globe, and

0:27:10 > 0:27:14mind your own business, and support our enemies against us, then you can

0:27:14 > 0:27:19expect these attacks, and so can America and so can any other country.

0:27:19 > 0:27:23Western countries could try to avoid provoking ISIS

0:27:23 > 0:27:26and the young Muslims it's trained for martyrdom.

0:27:26 > 0:27:29But the Islamic State is determined to grow.

0:27:29 > 0:27:31A clash may be inevitable,

0:27:31 > 0:27:35says one of the world's leading experts on radicalisation.

0:27:35 > 0:27:39When we look at the overall aspirations of ISIS, it wants to take

0:27:39 > 0:27:43over the whole world and subjugate it to its version of political Islam.

0:27:43 > 0:27:46And so the real question we need to ask ourselves is that

0:27:46 > 0:27:49unfortunately at one stage or another we are going to be

0:27:49 > 0:27:51drawn into a confrontation with them.

0:27:51 > 0:27:53The issue is how long is that event horizon?

0:27:53 > 0:27:56Is it 12 months, five years, ten years, 50 years?

0:27:56 > 0:27:59But at one point or another we will have to confront them.

0:28:01 > 0:28:03The West faces a decision -

0:28:03 > 0:28:07whether to confront the new Caliphate or leave it to grow.

0:28:07 > 0:28:10There are risks either way.

0:28:10 > 0:28:14For now, the war against ISIS remains in the Middle East.

0:28:14 > 0:28:16How long will it stay there?