:00:57. > :00:58.Welcome to the University of York. I'm in the spin room when we have
:00:59. > :00:59.been watching the debate. 45 minutes each of hard
:01:00. > :01:01.grilling by members of the public for the Prime Minister
:01:02. > :01:04.and for the Labour What's come out very clearly is that
:01:05. > :01:08.Theresa May is still under pressure to detail exactly what she hopes
:01:09. > :01:10.to get for Britain out of Brexit, while Mr Corbyn
:01:11. > :01:13.was pressed on whether he'd press the nuclear button,
:01:14. > :01:15.his plans for corporation tax, They weren't easy questions by any
:01:16. > :01:19.means, and Theresa May will be 45 minutes each of hard
:01:20. > :01:21.grilling by members of the public for the Prime Minister
:01:22. > :01:24.and for the Labour What's come out very clearly is that
:01:25. > :01:28.Theresa May is still under pressure to detail exactly what she hopes
:01:29. > :01:30.to get for Britain out of Brexit, while Mr Corbyn
:01:31. > :01:33.was pressed on whether he'd press the nuclear button,
:01:34. > :01:35.his plans for corporation tax, and other controversies
:01:36. > :01:36.such as anti-semitism They weren't easy questions by any
:01:37. > :01:40.means, and Theresa May will be hoping it will have some impact
:01:41. > :01:43.in the Conservatives favour after a week of disappointing
:01:44. > :01:44.polls. Let's speak to Labour's Joint
:01:45. > :01:46.General Election Coordinator Chief, Andrew Gwynne, and the Brexit
:01:47. > :01:50.Secretary, David Davis. It would appear that people were
:01:51. > :01:53.very concerned. It was an assured performance by the Prime Minister.
:01:54. > :01:55.She made. A free trade agreement, trade with the rest of the world,
:01:56. > :01:58.building into a plan to pay for public services. She showed clearly
:01:59. > :02:01.what she was made off and was very good in her answers. The other side
:02:02. > :02:03.of the coin was we had Jeremy Corbyn who was weak on immigration, the
:02:04. > :02:05.economy, defence, slippery on anti-Semitism and clearly not the
:02:06. > :02:08.man to take the Brexit negotiations. The first question to Theresa May,
:02:09. > :02:11.how can we trust you after detailing a number of things where the viewer
:02:12. > :02:13.was feeling let down. Do you feel she has that? The audience were not
:02:14. > :02:18.patsies, they were very clear in their questions. She has plainly.
:02:19. > :02:23.This is about trust and making the decisions that need to be made, the
:02:24. > :02:28.decision to call the election to enable us to do a good Brexit deal,
:02:29. > :02:36.she was very plain and her answers as she did not dark any questions,
:02:37. > :02:44.unlike Jeremy Corbyn. -- she did not dark any questions. A very angry
:02:45. > :02:50.nurse who was cheered when she said, are we not worth it? It is not weak
:02:51. > :02:57.to say we need to have the money to pay the bill. We are raising 8
:02:58. > :03:01.million extra for the National Health Service. That is taking the
:03:02. > :03:09.question right on. She did this on issues of disability and others. She
:03:10. > :03:14.made it plain. We have to run the economy well, to generate the money
:03:15. > :03:21.to deliver the public services, something we can do and have done
:03:22. > :03:27.over the years. We are joined by Labour's campaign coordinator.
:03:28. > :03:33.Jeremy Corbyn did not answer the question about the red button, he
:03:34. > :03:38.did answer. He said that he would not want the first strike. The
:03:39. > :03:44.important thing here is that no Labour Government, no conservative
:03:45. > :03:50.Government has ever been put in that position where they have had to
:03:51. > :03:58.press the red button. The clue is in the name. It is called a nuclear the
:03:59. > :04:02.current. If we ever find ourselves in a situation where we have to
:04:03. > :04:08.press the button first, the deterrent has not worked. I agree
:04:09. > :04:13.with Jeremy Corbyn that we want to live in a world that is free from
:04:14. > :04:22.nuclear weapons. The way we do that, and the Conservatives are signed up
:04:23. > :04:30.to that, exactly, your policy is multilateral disarmament. The
:04:31. > :04:38.problem is that nuclear the current -- nuclear deterrents depends on
:04:39. > :04:47.their credibility. What would happen if we were under attack? He was
:04:48. > :04:55.explicit that he would not use first use. He was very clear. The audience
:04:56. > :05:00.were not happy with that. No Labour Government will ever put the
:05:01. > :05:07.security of our nation at stake. I have to say, David, there is no
:05:08. > :05:13.credibility from Theresa May who was weak and wobbly, failing to give out
:05:14. > :05:17.assurances to pensioners that they will not lose their winter fuel
:05:18. > :05:24.allowance, what the cap will be on social care, this is what people
:05:25. > :05:31.want to know. The audience will make their judgment. She said we have to
:05:32. > :05:35.pay for this, deal with an issue that is exploding in size, 2 million
:05:36. > :05:40.extra people over the age of seven to five in the next decade, and we
:05:41. > :05:46.need to find a way to pay for it. -- over the age of 75. It will protect
:05:47. > :05:52.people from paying too much but it will help to fund a good social care
:05:53. > :05:58.for everyone. We can talk about Brexit, an issue close to you. She
:05:59. > :06:00.has said before that she would not give out details of the
:06:01. > :06:07.negotiations. Do you think the public where is that? The public
:06:08. > :06:12.have had the opportunity to read 100 pages of the aims and strategy, two
:06:13. > :06:18.white papers, 6000 word speech, there is 5-page letter to Brussels,
:06:19. > :06:22.the Article 50 letter, and any number of speeches from the in the
:06:23. > :06:27.House of Commons. There is a vast amount of information out there and
:06:28. > :06:30.she has made it very plain. Some of it is controversial, son says no
:06:31. > :06:38.deal is better than a bad deal, we would be willing to walk away. Let
:06:39. > :06:42.me finish my sentence. That is not offered by the Labour Party, so they
:06:43. > :06:48.have to accept any deal but is offered to them. That is not
:06:49. > :06:52.correct. You know we will go on with the aim of getting the best possible
:06:53. > :07:01.deal that we can. The aim is no good with overleveraged. -- no good
:07:02. > :07:06.without Loveridge. You know the only deal on the table to the United
:07:07. > :07:11.Kingdom if we walk away without a deal from the EU is World Trade
:07:12. > :07:20.Organisation rules, which means, and I hope you acknowledge this, 10%
:07:21. > :07:28.tariff increases on cars, 12% extra on close, 40% extra on land. Some of
:07:29. > :07:37.those numbers are right. That is what it means. The public at
:07:38. > :07:43.large... We are not going to have no deal. We are going to get it because
:07:44. > :07:47.we are willing to walk away. The people listening will know that if
:07:48. > :07:52.you go to buy a House and you say you're going to buy it at any
:07:53. > :07:56.circumstances, you will pay a high price. But the Labour Party thinks
:07:57. > :08:05.we will get given things for nothing. This will take a tough and
:08:06. > :08:08.steely approach, which is generous and open, we want a mutually
:08:09. > :08:19.beneficial deal, but we know that the bottom line is and they do not.
:08:20. > :08:22.When you say you are not keen on David Davis and his negotiating
:08:23. > :08:27.team, they think Europe would like you better? We acknowledge and
:08:28. > :08:33.accept the result of the referendum but we want to get the best deal for
:08:34. > :08:38.Britain. You do that by sitting down and explaining that it is mutually
:08:39. > :08:43.beneficial to have tariff free trade because if you are building planes,
:08:44. > :08:48.like a bus and so on, we need to make sure that we are bringing bits
:08:49. > :08:55.and pieces that make those planes into the UK and we are sending bits
:08:56. > :08:57.over to Europe. Are you not giving away part of your negotiating point
:08:58. > :09:03.when you say that the first thing you will do is make sure the EU
:09:04. > :09:10.citizens are going to be protected. If that not part of the negotiation?
:09:11. > :09:14.You should not reveal your hand. I do not think people's' lives can be
:09:15. > :09:20.bargaining chips. Whether it is the lives of people who have made their
:09:21. > :09:25.workplace the United Kingdom or whether it is a British person who
:09:26. > :09:29.has made their workplace elsewhere in the European Union, I do not want
:09:30. > :09:37.to see us losing that. That is the problem... They are willing to say
:09:38. > :09:40.we will solve the 3 million but we will leave the 1 million standing.
:09:41. > :09:45.We want to solve the four million and we offered this in December, but
:09:46. > :09:53.the European Union did not agree to deal with that in December. We will
:09:54. > :09:57.deal with it at the very first... The million British citizens abroad
:09:58. > :10:03.we cannot deal with. This is why your negotiating strategy is a
:10:04. > :10:08.fantasy. We saw Jeremy Corbyn as a man who did not is way through the
:10:09. > :10:11.complexities of this. He did not understand the difficulties of the
:10:12. > :10:15.negotiation or how to deal with the 27. He will be rolled over in the
:10:16. > :10:21.Brexit negotiations if he is Prime Minister. It is absolute nonsense of
:10:22. > :10:25.what people will be voting for on the 8th of June is better public
:10:26. > :10:33.services and security in old age and a fully costed health service. It is
:10:34. > :10:38.a question of priorities, because you can find ?70 billion for the top
:10:39. > :10:48.but you cannot find it for the bottom. I'm going to let you to take
:10:49. > :10:52.the subway. Thank you. -- take this away. This is what the Prime
:10:53. > :10:56.Minister had to say about Brexit and the possibility of being punished
:10:57. > :11:00.during the negotiations. I am confident we can get a good deal
:11:01. > :11:03.with the right flank but there was a gauche nations because I think a
:11:04. > :11:08.good deal is in our interests and the interest of the rest of the EU.
:11:09. > :11:12.We have to be prepared to stand up for Britain. We have to be prepared
:11:13. > :11:17.to go in there recognising that we are not willing to accept a bad
:11:18. > :11:21.deal. What is a bad deal? You talk all the time about a bad deal that
:11:22. > :11:26.you will not accept, can you explain what that would be? On the one hand,
:11:27. > :11:29.David, you have politicians in Europe who are talking about
:11:30. > :11:37.punishing the UK believing this year. I think what they want to see
:11:38. > :11:40.would be a bad deal. Secondly, there are politicians in the United
:11:41. > :11:45.Kingdom who seem to be willing to accept any deal just for the sake of
:11:46. > :11:51.getting a deal. The danger is they would be accepting the worst deal at
:11:52. > :11:57.the worst price. That was the issue of Brexit. Letters top to the deputy
:11:58. > :12:02.coordinator of the Labour Party campaign. Give me your overview
:12:03. > :12:08.about how Jeremy Corbyn perform tonight. I think he performed very
:12:09. > :12:12.well tonight, the questions were a little bit different to what they
:12:13. > :12:16.were in previous TV appearances, but I think he performed well. People
:12:17. > :12:20.solved tonight and they have warmed to Jeremy Corbyn because he is
:12:21. > :12:27.sincere and honest and will answer the question. He did not answer a
:12:28. > :12:32.crucial question on pushing the red button, there was no answer. The
:12:33. > :12:38.best question tonight was from the young woman who asked the rest of
:12:39. > :12:42.the audience why everyone was eager to press a button and incinerate
:12:43. > :12:46.millions of people across the planet and she got a tremendous round of
:12:47. > :12:55.applause. That was the best question asked tonight. In terms of money, is
:12:56. > :12:59.it a letter to Santa Claus, how do you think you dealt with that
:13:00. > :13:08.question? We are the only party that have got a manifesto with pledges
:13:09. > :13:12.that are fully costed. We are the only ones who've itemised everything
:13:13. > :13:18.very clearly, very critically, and that is what the general public
:13:19. > :13:22.want. They want to see that we can afford and we will look towards the
:13:23. > :13:27.manifesto, fully costed, and that is not what they have done. They have a
:13:28. > :13:33.manifesto that has already been shredded and hours hosted the test
:13:34. > :13:39.of time. You were pointing at Boris Johnson, who joins us now. I thought
:13:40. > :13:44.that was a fascinating and by opening debate and I can gradually
:13:45. > :13:52.the BBC for putting it on. Theresa May is kindness serial -- is Prime
:13:53. > :14:00.Minister material, she got to the point. She did not and so any
:14:01. > :14:05.question on the public sector and public pay cuts. She never an Saudi
:14:06. > :14:11.single question. The nurse has to buy beer getting a 1% pay rise. --
:14:12. > :14:17.she never answered a single question. I thought she was very
:14:18. > :14:24.clear. We are putting extra money into the NHS. Where will the ?8
:14:25. > :14:28.billion, from because she would not answer the question about where it
:14:29. > :14:33.would come from? There is no magic money tree and I think that is a
:14:34. > :14:43.question you might want to ask this Labour trap. -- Labour chap. The
:14:44. > :14:50.money will come from the proceeds of growth. The risk is the economy will
:14:51. > :14:54.tank and be shredded by Labour proposals that you have heard
:14:55. > :15:02.tonight and seen in their manifesto, to increase taxes on British
:15:03. > :15:06.businesses. Taxes will be lower than they were... There is something
:15:07. > :15:11.extraordinary about the content from Jeremy Corbyn towards the guy who
:15:12. > :15:18.was worried about the impact of taxation. What these people do not
:15:19. > :15:22.understand is that everybody in this country depends on the success of
:15:23. > :15:32.those businesses. You do not have the faintest idea. They are a
:15:33. > :15:38.communist cabal who have taken over this thing and they are not
:15:39. > :15:44.supported by 75% of Labour MPs. He is one of the few who supports
:15:45. > :15:48.Jeremy Corbyn, if he is an MP. They have a range of views that date back
:15:49. > :15:53.to the 1970s, they would take this country backwards and it is not
:15:54. > :15:57.right for Britain to Dave. I thought Prime Minister Max sketched out a
:15:58. > :16:01.powerful vision of how to make the most of Brexit to take the country
:16:02. > :16:07.forward. She sees the opportunities and she is optimistic about what can
:16:08. > :16:11.be achieved. One final point about Jeremy Corbyn, the most chilling
:16:12. > :16:19.thing at all is that this is a guy who is standing to be Prime Minister
:16:20. > :16:22.on the 8th of June and we face all sorts of threats, we cannot
:16:23. > :16:29.guarantee that we will be immune from nuclear blackmail. This was a
:16:30. > :16:35.gag who was saying to the world, advertising, if it came to nuclear
:16:36. > :16:39.blackmail from around or North Korea or anywhere else, Jeremy Corbyn
:16:40. > :16:44.would be vulnerable to cause he would not press the trigger. The
:16:45. > :16:53.logic of nuclear deterrents is avoided. It is pointless. The
:16:54. > :17:02.audience picked this issue up. The nuclear button. All I would say with
:17:03. > :17:12.regard to the Brexit issue... I want to talk about the nuclear issue. Do
:17:13. > :17:16.you want this guy and Liam Fox and David Davis to negotiate a Brexit
:17:17. > :17:23.deal on behalf of this country? I would be devastated to think it was
:17:24. > :17:29.in their hands. With regards to the nuclear issue, I think what Jeremy
:17:30. > :17:35.Corbyn said quite clearly is that he would review the situation at that
:17:36. > :17:40.time. The audience were not convinced by that. He does not want
:17:41. > :17:47.incinerate millions of people across the globe, Boris would be quite
:17:48. > :17:54.happy to do that. I don't think you understand the logic of nuclear
:17:55. > :18:07.deterrents. You do not understand ordinary people. You helped to
:18:08. > :18:14.coordinate this Labour campaign... Some peace please, Boris. You help
:18:15. > :18:22.Jeremy Corbyn rehearsed that issue Jeremy Corbyn rehearsed that issue
:18:23. > :18:29.because it looked like he had not. Do you mind? Stop being so rude.
:18:30. > :18:35.Jeremy Corbyn, like any politician worth his salt, on a big evening
:18:36. > :18:40.like this, will discuss all the issues that are likely to be
:18:41. > :18:44.discussed. Of course he will have discussed everything and prepared
:18:45. > :18:50.properly because that is the kind of individual he is. We should point
:18:51. > :18:56.out that the biggest cheer of the evening went to the lady who said
:18:57. > :19:01.why we talking about nuclear issues? I think millions of people here in
:19:02. > :19:07.the news that British Minister has advocated the whole of our nuclear
:19:08. > :19:12.the Tarrant. It is not just our own country that depends on Britain
:19:13. > :19:16.being strong, we have allies in Nato and around the world who looked to
:19:17. > :19:19.us for a lead, who believed in Britain and they will be very
:19:20. > :19:25.disappointed to think that the leader of a major party could
:19:26. > :19:30.perhaps be on the verge of being Prime Minister next week with that
:19:31. > :19:33.kind of approach. People in Brussels listening to what he had to say
:19:34. > :19:39.about Lee you will have been flummoxed. It is not clear whether
:19:40. > :19:44.he wants to be inside the single market or outside, inside the
:19:45. > :19:52.customs union or inside. I have to leave it. Here knows that she did
:19:53. > :19:57.not answer the questions on the public sector and the nurses that
:19:58. > :20:00.have had a 40% pay cut and having to use food banks. Here's never used
:20:01. > :20:14.that the bank and heard never been to a good bank. Take it back. I want
:20:15. > :20:22.to hear... We can hear from Jeremy Corbyn. This is what he said about
:20:23. > :20:28.the nuclear deterrent. We have to try to protect ourselves, we would
:20:29. > :20:36.not use it as first use, and, if we did use it, millions are going to
:20:37. > :20:41.die. I would decide in the circumstances at the time. Would you
:20:42. > :20:47.use it as second-year so which allowed North Korea or some idiot in
:20:48. > :20:54.Iran to bomb and then say we better start talking? You would be too
:20:55. > :21:02.late. Of course not. Of course, I would not do that. You would allow
:21:03. > :21:08.them to do it. Of course not. That is why I made the point is short
:21:09. > :21:14.time ago about the need, the need for President Obama's deal with Iran
:21:15. > :21:22.to be upheld, and to promote disarmament in Korea. That is
:21:23. > :21:28.difficult... It is impossible... You are asking a massive wish when you
:21:29. > :21:33.have a massive arsenal by your side. I would rather have it it than not
:21:34. > :21:44.have it at all, especially in this this day and age. D1 to comment on
:21:45. > :21:49.that? No. If it was hot in there it is hot in here. Those rows you were
:21:50. > :21:53.just watching are happening around the room. We can go to Vicky Young
:21:54. > :22:01.who is behind me getting more reaction. It is a bit more sedate
:22:02. > :22:05.over here. I am going to disturb the journalists who are filing their
:22:06. > :22:12.copy. And joined by Robert Hutton from Lindbergh. What do you make of
:22:13. > :22:23.it? It is the toughest audience she has faced. They both take a
:22:24. > :22:27.pummelling. It says that in my copy. We got language that was not
:22:28. > :22:35.parliamentary from Theresa May, she almost said it would word. It was
:22:36. > :22:39.lively, I thought. She got pressed on social care particularly. She
:22:40. > :22:45.looked uncomfortable on social care and on nurses, the moment when the
:22:46. > :22:50.nurse said to her I have not had a pay rise, do not tell me I have had
:22:51. > :22:55.a pay rise. I'm not sure that replying that there is not a magic
:22:56. > :23:00.money tree was very wise. That was too much of a sound bite. You did
:23:01. > :23:05.not have the Clinton moment where she walked over and said that she
:23:06. > :23:10.felt her pain and asked her to tell her how difficult it was. What did
:23:11. > :23:14.you think of Jeremy Corbyn? I thought he did all right initially
:23:15. > :23:18.but then it came unstuck on nuclear weapons and the IRA. For many
:23:19. > :23:28.people, they do not remembered the IRA and not understand he was part
:23:29. > :23:32.of the peace process. On nuclear weapons, one woman said that he did
:23:33. > :23:41.not want to kill millions of people, but it is not about that, it is
:23:42. > :23:46.about standing up. If you are able to, Jeremy Corbyn does not sing the
:23:47. > :23:52.national anthem, look scruffy, and he did not do a lot to dispel that.
:23:53. > :23:55.The Defence Secretary is said that he has never heard a Labour leader
:23:56. > :24:01.saying that he would not use nuclear weapons. Labour said that to Reza
:24:02. > :24:05.may does not understand real people, but Jeremy Corbyn does not
:24:06. > :24:13.understand economics and how to keep the nation safe. Thank you for that.
:24:14. > :24:18.Let's talk now to Johnathan Bartley of the Green Party.
:24:19. > :24:25.He joins me from central London. What did you make of the factor was
:24:26. > :24:31.the audience who kept pushing on this of the nuclear deterrent and
:24:32. > :24:37.Jeremy Corbyn's willingness or not to push the button? He was going
:24:38. > :24:42.really well up to that point, he was making a bold and important vision
:24:43. > :24:48.that we can increase public spending up to the level of Germany, who
:24:49. > :24:52.spent 44% of their GDP on public spending. It is not being a
:24:53. > :24:57.communist country it is common sense to invest in public services, like
:24:58. > :25:06.Germany. But tried and shows he is in a difficult position. -- but
:25:07. > :25:13.Trident shows that. The money could get a curse of life to the NHS, but
:25:14. > :25:18.then why we do it to never use it? It is incredible to say we should
:25:19. > :25:22.not have nuclear weapons, we do not need to the 21st-century, even
:25:23. > :25:26.Michael Portillo says we do not need it, but to say we have it and not
:25:27. > :25:33.use it is an incredible position to have. What about climate change?
:25:34. > :25:38.Theresa May was asked why she did not sign the letter. She said that
:25:39. > :25:45.she had already spoken to Donald Trump. I thought this was a weak
:25:46. > :25:49.performance from Theresa May. You can see why she does not want to
:25:50. > :25:52.debate with anyone, Caroline Lucas would have exposed on this question
:25:53. > :25:56.is she went head-to-head with her or any other leader. She gives some
:25:57. > :26:02.details of the phone call and it seems like she just rolled over and
:26:03. > :26:06.said, OK, you get on with it, but we will not try to persuade you
:26:07. > :26:12.otherwise. We thought that she had some kind of clout audibility, a
:26:13. > :26:15.special relationship with Donald Trump, but she's that big a
:26:16. > :26:21.responsibility or she has no ability to do it, one or the other, very
:26:22. > :26:28.weak. What would your message have been if it was you on that stage
:26:29. > :26:33.tonight? I get my turn on Sunday, I am looking forward to it. My heart
:26:34. > :26:38.went out to Theresa May when she did not seem to know we were giving aid
:26:39. > :26:42.to North Korea. We should be kinder to our politicians when they do not
:26:43. > :26:47.know all their facts and figures, we should raise the level of debate. We
:26:48. > :26:52.would've said that we could be better than this, we can prepare for
:26:53. > :26:56.the 21st-century and have bold ideas, the kind of thing Jeremy
:26:57. > :27:01.Corbyn was getting into, a basic income and the length of the working
:27:02. > :27:07.week, the automation that is good to take away millions of jobs and how
:27:08. > :27:13.we deal with that. We can have corporation tax capital for small
:27:14. > :27:17.businesses to create organisations that will withstand the winds of
:27:18. > :27:20.change, while getting taxes from the big corporations and ending this
:27:21. > :27:24.corporate welfare that the Conservatives are giving away and
:27:25. > :27:27.running away the public services because they no longer have the
:27:28. > :27:34.money to invest in them. Thank you for that. Ten gallon Nicola Sturgeon
:27:35. > :27:42.will have their chance that a similar event in Edinburgh on
:27:43. > :27:48.Sunday. Now we can go to Sophie Long, who is outside the venue.
:27:49. > :27:53.Thank you very much. We are outside the venue and we are joined by four
:27:54. > :27:59.members of the audience, including Abigail who started proceedings. You
:28:00. > :28:02.were not messing around. Your question was about trust. It was
:28:03. > :28:09.about whether we can trust Theresa May to deliver policies and whether
:28:10. > :28:14.we can trust at all her backsliding. Were you satisfied with her and so?
:28:15. > :28:19.It wasn't really am so, it was just what she had rehearsed and what she
:28:20. > :28:24.wanted to see. Not really. In terms of the rest of the debate, what did
:28:25. > :28:29.you think? It was great, it was great fun and the audience were
:28:30. > :28:39.lively. But they did dodge questions and they did seem rehearsed. You are
:28:40. > :28:44.a Ukip photo? That is right. You are a conservative activists. What
:28:45. > :28:49.question did you put a Jeremy Corbyn and white? The national living wage
:28:50. > :28:54.is going to lead the people losing their jobs. Jeremy Corbyn wants to
:28:55. > :29:00.increase the national living wage even further. I asked him for how
:29:01. > :29:04.many jobs would be lost and he skipped that one and vaguely
:29:05. > :29:10.answered his next question. Good honest politics was not seen
:29:11. > :29:15.tonight. Did you learn anything from Jeremy Corbyn? I learnt that he is
:29:16. > :29:20.allergic to red buttons and that is about it. We will move on to that in
:29:21. > :29:24.a moment. In terms of Theresa May, you obviously support her, what did
:29:25. > :29:28.you think of her performance because she became a little bit unstuck on
:29:29. > :29:35.social care, which you must be prepared for. The main thing people
:29:36. > :29:41.are criticising her for was the change in manifesto and I think she
:29:42. > :29:43.was trying to get across that the details were missing from the
:29:44. > :29:49.manifesto, they have not necessarily been changed. She did a reasonable
:29:50. > :29:53.job trying to explain it but at some point I think she got flustered,
:29:54. > :29:58.although Jeremy Corbyn got more flustered. You pick the first
:29:59. > :30:07.question to him about the nuclear button. What did you think? I came
:30:08. > :30:13.very open-minded to the discussion on Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May and
:30:14. > :30:18.I'm still undecided. I had high hopes for Jeremy Corbyn until he did
:30:19. > :30:24.not answer the question on Trident. So I pushed again on the red button
:30:25. > :30:33.issue. Basically, he shot me down like an enemy. I had high hopes that
:30:34. > :30:38.during the Brexit referendum he was conspicuous by his absence, then
:30:39. > :30:42.through the process that this election he has come out of his
:30:43. > :30:50.shell and he is going for it and taking a fight to the Tories. But on
:30:51. > :30:55.this issue, he has no backbone. You asked about his policies on
:30:56. > :31:03.anti-Semitism, but what did you think about his performance as a
:31:04. > :31:07.whole and Theresa May? I think they both had strengths and weaknesses
:31:08. > :31:12.and they both tried to avoid the question are directed to them, but
:31:13. > :31:15.Jeremy Corbyn says one thing and does another. It is all very well
:31:16. > :31:20.him saying that he opposes anti-Semitism and he's against
:31:21. > :31:28.terrorism and racism, but having an anti-Semitic member of his party and
:31:29. > :31:37.anti-somatic affiliations while calling terrorists as friends. One
:31:38. > :31:44.word answer, that this evening's debate change the way you think in
:31:45. > :31:52.any way at all? I am more informed. More informed, not wiser as such.
:31:53. > :31:58.You are still not sure who to vote for? Not sure. It has reinforced my
:31:59. > :32:01.views. I was feeling is a pathetic to Jeremy Corbyn but that is
:32:02. > :32:05.changed. It will maybe you are probably going to spoil your vote.
:32:06. > :32:10.Is that what you will tonight? I will still boil might -- I will
:32:11. > :32:17.still spoil my ballot, I do not trust them. I would never vote for
:32:18. > :32:25.either of those parties. Thank you for being with us tonight. Back to
:32:26. > :32:29.you in the spin room. Let's talk to achieve political
:32:30. > :32:34.correspondent. We knew it was going to be difficult for both of them,
:32:35. > :32:39.but that first question for Theresa May, you did not come talk to the
:32:40. > :32:43.debate or confront Jeremy Corbyn directly and you did not want a
:32:44. > :32:47.general election now you do, it was tough.
:32:48. > :32:55.She came and a hard time about trust, the U-turn and social care,
:32:56. > :32:59.still a lot of anxiety about that, people bringing their personal
:33:00. > :33:03.experiences, that disabled man, saying can you give me a guarantee
:33:04. > :33:08.we will not be made bankrupt by your policy? That is quite hard to
:33:09. > :33:11.answer. On the plus side, she seemed more steady, more able to talk about
:33:12. > :33:16.Brexit, you could tell she had really really is that many times,
:33:17. > :33:20.Jeremy Corbyn, on the other hand, Jeremy Corbyn, on the other hand,
:33:21. > :33:28.getting a really hard time about Trident, know how he feels about it,
:33:29. > :33:32.he has been part of the disarmament campaign all his life, and pushed on
:33:33. > :33:36.when he would use a nuclear weapon, he did not say that he wouldn't, but
:33:37. > :33:41.it was clear that he felt about it. For him, making his case about the
:33:42. > :33:45.Labour manifesto, openly saying, we need to put up taxes for better
:33:46. > :33:49.funding of public services, so both were able to get their policies
:33:50. > :33:53.across, but the audience went for it, the questions were very
:33:54. > :33:57.difficult for them to answer, and it is difficult to fob off members of
:33:58. > :34:01.the public. They do to us journalists all the time, but they
:34:02. > :34:06.can't do it to them. There was almost a punch-up here a moment ago!
:34:07. > :34:11.That is as close as I will get to the boxing ring! Sportsday is next
:34:12. > :34:19.on the BBC News Channel, but from the University of your, from all of
:34:20. > :34:22.us here, a very good night. -- the University of York.