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:00:00. > :00:00.raise this with the Minister then. The secretary of state for exiting

:00:00. > :00:08.the European Union, secretary David Davis. With permission I wish to

:00:09. > :00:12.make a statement on the Government plans to exit the European Union.

:00:13. > :00:18.Today we are publishing a government white paper on the exit and a new

:00:19. > :00:21.partnership with the European Union. The Government has made clear it

:00:22. > :00:26.will honour the choice made by the people of the United Kingdom. On the

:00:27. > :00:35.23rd of June 2016, the United Kingdom will leave the European

:00:36. > :00:42.Union. Note that is wrong. By April of, on the 23rd of June 2016 the

:00:43. > :00:56.people voted for the leave of the European Union. This house... We

:00:57. > :01:01.have two years of this to go don't worry.

:01:02. > :01:03.LAUGHING This house is currently considering

:01:04. > :01:08.a straightforward bill which would give the Prime Minister at the

:01:09. > :01:11.authority to trigger article 50 of the European Union to begin the

:01:12. > :01:16.negotiations of our exit. It is not a bill about whether or not we leave

:01:17. > :01:23.the EU or if we do so but about implementing a decision taken of the

:01:24. > :01:28.UK. We always have said we would eat out these aims and seek to build a

:01:29. > :01:34.national consensus were possible. This paper sets those aims and the

:01:35. > :01:37.thinking behind it. It confirms the Prime Minister's vision of a truly

:01:38. > :01:42.global UK and Anna Bush 's future relationship with the European

:01:43. > :01:53.Union. This is based on the 12 principles which will guide the

:01:54. > :02:11.governments. Taking control of our own laws and statue book.

:02:12. > :02:16.Maintaining the Common travel area. And the rights of UK nationals

:02:17. > :02:20.living in the European Union. Protecting and enhancing existing

:02:21. > :02:24.workers' rights and ensuring free trade with European markets was

:02:25. > :02:31.forging a new strategic partnership with the European Union including a

:02:32. > :02:33.bold and ambitious agreement and a beneficial customs agreement.

:02:34. > :02:40.Forging free trade agreements with others across the world. Ensuring

:02:41. > :02:44.the United Kingdom is the best place and cooperating against crime and

:02:45. > :02:53.terrorism and finally delivering a smooth and orderly exit from the

:02:54. > :02:56.European Union. These amount to one goal, a new positive and

:02:57. > :03:01.constructive partnership with Britain and the European Union that

:03:02. > :03:08.works in our mutual interest. All of them are qubits lets me highlight

:03:09. > :03:14.some specific issues its reiterate our firm view that it is in the UK

:03:15. > :03:17.interest for the European Union to succeed politically and

:03:18. > :03:27.economically. That cannot be said to firmly. We want the EU to succeed

:03:28. > :03:32.politically and economically. We want to work to an outcome for our

:03:33. > :03:36.mutual benefit, we recognise the European union has principles for

:03:37. > :03:40.freedom so United Kingdom will leave the single market, instead we seek a

:03:41. > :03:44.new strategic partnership including a bold and ambitious free trade

:03:45. > :03:51.agreement and a mutually and vicious trade agreements that insurers

:03:52. > :03:56.free-trade and services as much as possible. That'll be to our mutual

:03:57. > :04:01.benefit. As the white paper notes, we export billions of goods to the

:04:02. > :04:10.EU while import billions from the EU every year. It also sets out how

:04:11. > :04:12.after we leave the UK will look to increase its trade with the

:04:13. > :04:20.fastest-growing export markets in the world. It cannot sign a new

:04:21. > :04:27.trade deals were being a Member, we are preparing the ground freight

:04:28. > :04:33.which means updating membership of the WTO. Modern free-trade

:04:34. > :04:36.agreements are to stop disputes on both sides of the white paper

:04:37. > :04:41.examines the precedence of this area and makes clear we will negotiate an

:04:42. > :04:44.arrangement that respects UK sovereignty, in terms of clarity and

:04:45. > :04:56.certainty will recognise the need to provide it wherever we can during

:04:57. > :05:00.the period when and is inevitable. This legislation will mean the

:05:01. > :05:04.repeal of the communities act or converting the existing EU law into

:05:05. > :05:11.domestic law. That means the position we start from, a Common red

:05:12. > :05:17.glittery framework is unprecedented. The negotiation will not be bringing

:05:18. > :05:22.two divergent systems together, it is about finding the best way of the

:05:23. > :05:27.comments to the Mac for the current system to trade with and operate in

:05:28. > :05:32.each other's markets to continue and we leave the European Union. The

:05:33. > :05:39.white paper also sets up that we will take control of our own laws,

:05:40. > :05:42.to ensure that we can control the number of people coming to the

:05:43. > :05:46.United Kingdom from the European Union. In a jurisdiction of the

:05:47. > :05:57.European Court of Justice, the UK will come to an end. ... I have

:05:58. > :06:02.stood at this dispatch box before and said there will be a number of

:06:03. > :06:06.votes on policy to that earned the white paper makes clear that we will

:06:07. > :06:11.bring forward separate legislation in areas such as customs and

:06:12. > :06:13.immigration. Delivering smooth and mutually beneficial exits and

:06:14. > :06:18.avoiding a disruptive cliff edge which will be the key. A

:06:19. > :06:23.never-ending transitional status is emphatically not what we seek. But a

:06:24. > :06:26.phase process of process of implementation of new process of

:06:27. > :06:32.immigration controls, custom systems, the way we operate and

:06:33. > :06:36.incorporate on civil justice matters and legal frameworks of business

:06:37. > :06:43.will be necessary for both sides. As the white paper says, this time may

:06:44. > :06:49.vary. One of the most important actors in Global Affairs, we will

:06:50. > :06:53.continue to work with the European Union to preserve the security,

:06:54. > :07:01.fight crime and terrorism and uphold justice. We must work more closely,

:07:02. > :07:07.not less in these areas. We will continue to seek to build a national

:07:08. > :07:12.consensus so we are talking another time to business, civil society,

:07:13. > :07:15.public services, representatives. We have engaged the devolved

:07:16. > :07:19.administrations and whilst part of the UK can have a veto, we are

:07:20. > :07:24.determined to live an outcome which delivers for the whole of the

:07:25. > :07:31.country. We continue to analyse the outcome of Brexit to shape our

:07:32. > :07:35.negotiating position and to conclude, the referendum result was

:07:36. > :07:40.not a vote to turn our back on Europe but was a vote of confidence

:07:41. > :07:44.in the UK's ability to succeed in the world that our best days are

:07:45. > :07:49.still to come, whatever the outcome of the negotiation we seek a more

:07:50. > :07:52.outward looking and ferry UK that works for everyone. The white paper

:07:53. > :08:01.is available on the Government website.

:08:02. > :08:10.Mr Speaker, Norman Underwood thank the secretary of state that the

:08:11. > :08:15.statements is nothing. A week ago the Prime Minister said there would

:08:16. > :08:21.be a white paper, yesterday she said there would be a white paper

:08:22. > :08:25.tomorrow and the white paper has not been delivered until four minutes

:08:26. > :08:33.ago so we can meaningfully ask questions. For months we have been

:08:34. > :08:37.calling for a plan. That was refused on the basis they would not be a

:08:38. > :08:42.running commentary. Then the government agreed a plan but

:08:43. > :08:46.delivered a speech. Then they were forced to concede under pressure

:08:47. > :08:50.there would be a white paper. No white paper produced too late in the

:08:51. > :08:59.day for us to ask meaningful questions here. That is completely

:09:00. > :09:02.unacceptable. And the first fight about Brexit is great player, it is

:09:03. > :09:07.a fight about giving this house a meaningful role in holding the

:09:08. > :09:14.government to account. The government has been forced by the

:09:15. > :09:18.supreme court to involve parliament at all, it has been forced to

:09:19. > :09:22.produce a white paper and to concede a final vote. Before Christmas the

:09:23. > :09:27.Secretary of State refused to confirm there would be a vote in

:09:28. > :09:32.this house at the end of this exercise. The decision to leave was

:09:33. > :09:36.taken on June 23 but what matters now is the terms agreed under

:09:37. > :09:45.article 50 and the nature and extent of our new relationship with the EU.

:09:46. > :09:49.The Prime Minister adopted a risky approach, with gaps and

:09:50. > :09:52.inconsistencies and an unacceptable fallback position. We need time to

:09:53. > :10:00.debate this white paper properly and we need a vote on its content. And

:10:01. > :10:08.on the question of vote, flicking through the white paper IC at

:10:09. > :10:12.paragraph 1.12 is all that is said is that the final deal that is

:10:13. > :10:17.agreed will be put to a vote in both houses. We have amendments down next

:10:18. > :10:23.week seeking a meaningful vote. A vote in this house before a vote is

:10:24. > :10:26.taken in the European Parliament otherwise all honourable members

:10:27. > :10:31.will have to watch on their screens as the European Parliament debates

:10:32. > :10:34.are deal before we get to express any views on it. That is completely

:10:35. > :10:45.unacceptable and is demeaning of this house. Finally Mr Speaker I

:10:46. > :10:49.note there is nothing that progress is the position of EU nationals in

:10:50. > :10:53.this country. We have been calling for unilateral action to be taken

:10:54. > :11:03.before article 50 is triggered and yet the white paper disappoints on

:11:04. > :11:07.that front. Let me start with the purpose of the white paper, that is

:11:08. > :11:14.to inform all the debates, not just today, in the coming two years. The

:11:15. > :11:22.shadow Brexit spokesman is exactly right, what matters above all else,

:11:23. > :11:27.not the Labour Party or whatever, what matters are the terms we get

:11:28. > :11:32.for this negotiation. That is about the future of Britain, that is what

:11:33. > :11:39.this has should care about, first and foremost. Secondly he talks

:11:40. > :11:42.about the meaningful vote, I have not yet understood that. I have

:11:43. > :11:46.voted thousands of times in this house and I have never yet voted on

:11:47. > :11:56.something I considered not meaningful. Every vote in this house

:11:57. > :12:02.is meaningful. And there will be a meaningful vote at the end, he makes

:12:03. > :12:06.much of the time it took. I was saying for a long time to the select

:12:07. > :12:10.committee that it was inconceivable, the words are used, that we would

:12:11. > :12:21.not have a meaningful vote at the end of this process. His last point

:12:22. > :12:24.on the care of EU nationals, I also make you have got a track record of

:12:25. > :12:27.defending the interests of people who are under pressure and indeed

:12:28. > :12:32.the last thing pretty much the leader of his party did was go with

:12:33. > :12:35.me to Washington to get lost grip out of Guantanamo Bay. I am not

:12:36. > :12:39.going to throw people out of Britain and for him to suggest that is

:12:40. > :12:45.outrageous. But let me say this, the European Union nationals I want to

:12:46. > :12:50.see you have all the rights they currently have. But I also would sue

:12:51. > :12:58.British citizens have their rights. And we owe a moral responsibility

:12:59. > :13:00.and moral dared to EU nationals but also a moral and legal threats to

:13:01. > :13:09.citizens of Britain abroad and we will protest vote. -- I will see. Mr

:13:10. > :13:14.Speaker, I deeply welcome my right on and friend's statement and also

:13:15. > :13:17.the white paper which is most emphatically in our national

:13:18. > :13:22.interest. Tomorrow the heads of government of the 27 other member

:13:23. > :13:25.state will convene in Malta and they propose to make a declaration about

:13:26. > :13:31.their vision for the future of Europe. President task's letter of

:13:32. > :13:38.January 31 is not bode well. Will my right honourable friend encourage

:13:39. > :13:42.the 27 -- President Tusk. By promoting ever closer and more

:13:43. > :13:46.centralised political union they are creating the very circumstances

:13:47. > :13:54.which they claim they want to avoid and they are depriving themselves of

:13:55. > :13:57.the trust of the other citizens who they claim to represent? The

:13:58. > :14:04.effectively going in the wrong direction. Boyce my right honourable

:14:05. > :14:12.friend is labelled this issue for 20 years at least, and he has always

:14:13. > :14:17.said and honourable, straightforward and insightful view of the EU. On

:14:18. > :14:22.what we have said is that we are going to be full members until the

:14:23. > :14:25.moment we leave that means responsible members until the moment

:14:26. > :14:29.we leave. That means we will exercise our influence on what we

:14:30. > :14:34.think is the best interest of the EU until the moment we leave. Because

:14:35. > :14:39.we want to see a European Union strong, stable and effective. In

:14:40. > :14:48.this time of difficult international relations we need them as an anchor

:14:49. > :14:52.and that is what we will pursue. I thank the Minister for his

:14:53. > :14:57.statement. He is not a man of few words but I a man of few meaningful

:14:58. > :15:04.words. This is just another panicked U-turn. It is not much of an

:15:05. > :15:09.achievement to be the second most chaotic party in this chamber when

:15:10. > :15:14.it comes to matters of Europe. They have only had seven months to pull

:15:15. > :15:20.it together and yet we only read it one minute before the minister got

:15:21. > :15:25.on his feet. The secretary of state is more experience than me, but it

:15:26. > :15:28.is very striking we get a white paper after the second reading and

:15:29. > :15:34.two sitting days before the committee stage. We got this before

:15:35. > :15:40.he got on his feet. The latter respect to Parliament we need to

:15:41. > :15:44.question him on it but I find it an astonishing disrespect to Parliament

:15:45. > :15:50.and one that the secretary of state would not put up with were he not on

:15:51. > :15:55.the front page. But what I find surprising is what are they afraid

:15:56. > :15:59.of? They do not want to give us the opportunity for scrutiny, they do

:16:00. > :16:03.not have the courage of their convictions. Maybe Mr Speaker the

:16:04. > :16:10.Secretary of State will tell us that since Scotland voted to remain, is

:16:11. > :16:16.the red, white and blue Brexit, civil servants having to pull

:16:17. > :16:20.together their approach and the secretary of state has said that

:16:21. > :16:24.legislators will face the Mexican changes to the statement. Does that

:16:25. > :16:28.mean that a legislative consent motion will now be required but not

:16:29. > :16:31.-- significant changes. This is a mess and it is going to have an

:16:32. > :16:39.impact on each and every one of us and people deserve better. Let me

:16:40. > :16:43.start by saying that we have been in the EU for 40 years, this is that

:16:44. > :16:50.reversing, not reversing but amending and dealing with 40 years

:16:51. > :16:53.of accumulated policy and law. As for the second reading, he is

:16:54. > :16:57.talking about the second reading of a bill to trigger the process, to do

:16:58. > :17:02.no more than put into effect the British people's decision of June

:17:03. > :17:06.last year. So I cannot see how he thinks that the white paper being

:17:07. > :17:11.after the second reading is problematic at all. There will be

:17:12. > :17:16.any number, any number of occurrences in this house when the

:17:17. > :17:20.50 odd SNP members will have a chance to hold the government to

:17:21. > :17:23.account, to make their views known on policy, to put the interests of

:17:24. > :17:28.Scotland forward, whether it is with the great repeal Bill or other

:17:29. > :17:31.legislation that follows from that. I do not think he can complain about

:17:32. > :17:38.matters of democracy in this respect. Whatever his extensive

:17:39. > :17:44.interest in the statement which I'm keen to come, that, to do so will

:17:45. > :17:48.require relative from back and front benches alike, especially in light

:17:49. > :17:53.of the subsequent business, which is very well subscribed and to which I

:17:54. > :17:57.have to have regard. If we could have short questions and answers

:17:58. > :18:01.that would help. Can I ask first of all commend the paper to my right

:18:02. > :18:06.honourable friend. The complaints about it not being detailed enough

:18:07. > :18:11.on about it only coming at the last moment are of course nonsense. The

:18:12. > :18:14.Prime Minister set out most of the elements of this in her 12 point

:18:15. > :18:20.speech so those who missed that need to go back and see that reflected in

:18:21. > :18:26.this comment. But can I ask my right honourable friend the key concern in

:18:27. > :18:28.areas like academia and the high added value low-volume areas are

:18:29. > :18:34.that they get a much earlier statement about how flexible the

:18:35. > :18:37.kind of permit system would be and I wonder if my right honourable friend

:18:38. > :18:41.would take it a little further and say that these errors themselves

:18:42. > :18:48.will see next to no change. It is below value and high-volume areas

:18:49. > :18:54.that we need to control? If you were not here at the start you should not

:18:55. > :18:57.be standing, that is an established part of proceedings. My right

:18:58. > :19:01.honourable friend is another member of this house who has spent a long

:19:02. > :19:05.time on this issue. The issue of migration is my job as it were to

:19:06. > :19:08.bring the decision back to this house. It is not my job to make the

:19:09. > :19:14.decisions thereafter but what is clear to me is that the policies of

:19:15. > :19:19.controlling migration after our exit would be ones designed to further

:19:20. > :19:25.our national interest. Britain is a science superpower, Britain is a

:19:26. > :19:31.leading scientific centre in Europe and as a result we will want to

:19:32. > :19:36.encourage petition for talent. In finance, and in engineering and

:19:37. > :19:40.medicine, all the areas where there are skills that are at a premium we

:19:41. > :19:47.will want to encourage the attraction of those people. So we do

:19:48. > :19:59.not expect a policy to have any deleterious effect on industry at

:20:00. > :20:03.all. The Secretary of State said we would have meaningful votes on a

:20:04. > :20:08.whole range of things. How can it be that paragraph 8.43 commits us to

:20:09. > :20:15.leaving the customs union, which will have a devastating effect on

:20:16. > :20:18.manufacturing without any analysis or impact assessment? There has been

:20:19. > :20:23.considerable analysis of this. They we just finished the point. The

:20:24. > :20:29.point that is made in the policy paper is that we want to have the

:20:30. > :20:34.customs grimmer. That will impinge directly as a result of the free

:20:35. > :20:40.trade area and if we are successful in the free trade agreement and get

:20:41. > :20:42.low or near zero tariffs, we should succeed in getting the customs

:20:43. > :20:51.agreement which reflect that and makes it very straightforward to

:20:52. > :20:56.continue trading. Can I say that I think we would be wise to get to the

:20:57. > :20:59.end of the negotiations before we draw conclusions on what we have

:21:00. > :21:05.come to. That would be the meaningful way, those who use the

:21:06. > :21:09.word meaningful for times and speech are being rather meaningless. The

:21:10. > :21:12.key point is that what we're after is what in these circumstances the

:21:13. > :21:18.EU members will be after, which are arranged with that before then,

:21:19. > :21:24.before us and before world. Here's exactly right and that is the aim of

:21:25. > :21:26.our policy. He is right also that and be entered the house will be

:21:27. > :21:30.able to hold the government to account and make the meaningful

:21:31. > :21:34.decision about the policy. That will not be the only element, there will

:21:35. > :21:37.be many points along the way that will debate everything from customs

:21:38. > :21:41.grimaced through to immigration and other policies which arise out of

:21:42. > :21:47.this process. And the house will be very, very much in control. My

:21:48. > :21:52.honourable friend for Cockburn and St Pancras in the 60 seconds he had

:21:53. > :21:56.to look through the white paper was spot on to zone in on the

:21:57. > :21:59.obfuscation on page 11 about the lack of a meaningful vote for

:22:00. > :22:02.Parliament at the end of the process. There is no point in having

:22:03. > :22:09.a vote after he's already signed off with the EU, treating Parliament as

:22:10. > :22:16.some sort of afterthought. So can he rule out now the government showing

:22:17. > :22:20.such contempt for Parliament? This is now my sixth statement to this

:22:21. > :22:28.house in less than six months. Let me finish. The house will have the

:22:29. > :22:33.opportunity to vote on any number of pieces of legislation before we get

:22:34. > :22:35.there and it'll have the vote at the end to decide whether or not it's

:22:36. > :22:47.acceptable. On page 49 of the white paper, the

:22:48. > :22:50.Government says we have an open mind on how we implement the new

:22:51. > :23:02.arrangements with the European Union. For the avoidance of doubt,

:23:03. > :23:16.will the Secretary of State confirm... He will see we exclude

:23:17. > :23:21.ourselves... Can I welcome the principles in the white paper in

:23:22. > :23:23.particularly protecting and enhancing workers' rights, would he

:23:24. > :23:28.confirmed during the negotiations that there is nothing to negotiate

:23:29. > :23:31.with other EU countries on workers' rights and protection because we

:23:32. > :23:41.will be protecting them because they are already in our law and we must

:23:42. > :23:45.stop the people telling us that this will be threatened. She is

:23:46. > :23:51.absolutely right. The approach of the Government is to maintain every

:23:52. > :23:55.single piece of protection that is, which is incidentally much better

:23:56. > :24:04.than most European countries. And also to enhance that. Can I urge the

:24:05. > :24:08.Secretary to give priority to the matters in chapter six of the white

:24:09. > :24:14.paper in securing the rights of EU nationals, I have in mind one of my

:24:15. > :24:18.constituents who was in EU national and for many years she has been

:24:19. > :24:28.receiving a treatment for cancer and she wants to know if she will

:24:29. > :24:36.continue to have access to the NHS. It is not just residents write or

:24:37. > :24:44.talk about but access to health care. Thank you Mr Speaker, the end

:24:45. > :24:51.is not yet and the best is yet to be, which is what any presbyteries

:24:52. > :24:55.on the Ulster bench will welcome. Can I say I welcome the white paper

:24:56. > :24:59.that he has produced today and particularly the three chapters

:25:00. > :25:03.refer to the union, strengthening the relationship with the Republic

:25:04. > :25:06.of Ireland and the other chapter on combating terrorism. Is he familiar

:25:07. > :25:12.with the commentary of Ray Bassett, the former Irish ambassador and

:25:13. > :25:15.Irish diplomat who made it clear that Ireland's position should be on

:25:16. > :25:19.forging a new relationship with the United Kingdom because the other 26

:25:20. > :25:25.parts of the European Union don't listen to Ireland. I'm not familiar

:25:26. > :25:35.with the commentary he talks about but I welcome his views. It has been

:25:36. > :25:38.one of the most important part of the preparation which has been

:25:39. > :25:42.striking the relationship with Ireland which ensures we underpin

:25:43. > :25:49.the peace process, maintain stability, keep an open border and

:25:50. > :25:52.so on and I think it is incumbent on us because the Irish government in

:25:53. > :26:01.the most difficult position and that is what we are doing. The white

:26:02. > :26:06.paper paragraph eight point 43 makes it clear that we want to leave the

:26:07. > :26:11.customs union so we can negotiate free-trade agreements around the

:26:12. > :26:16.world, the actual position is if we leave the customs union then we will

:26:17. > :26:21.be bound by an external tariff unless we negotiate otherwise, is

:26:22. > :26:27.that the correct position? And WTO rules, this is the most favoured

:26:28. > :26:33.negotiation but you are allowed to make free-trade agreements at

:26:34. > :26:38.whatever level you seek. One of the things we seek to do is to ensure as

:26:39. > :26:47.many of the existing free-trade agreements carry straight over so

:26:48. > :26:52.that will also be lower. Given the old age dependency ratio and it's

:26:53. > :26:57.important for the public finances and the absence of any concrete

:26:58. > :27:00.information of paragraph 5.9 of this white paper, can the Secretary of

:27:01. > :27:08.State inform us what he anticipates the level of net migration to be

:27:09. > :27:12.across future years? It'll be a sustainable level, that is the

:27:13. > :27:16.policy but the point to understand here is that those decisions you

:27:17. > :27:27.make in a year by year basis because what is no part of the policy to

:27:28. > :27:32.make the British economy suffer, or any of the above, it is perfectly

:27:33. > :27:35.proper that the Government should control any migration property and

:27:36. > :27:44.not leave open ended. The solution to the problem is she cites is not

:27:45. > :27:50.just managing the problem. When the Government says its notice on the

:27:51. > :27:54.European Union under Article 50, will the Government take that

:27:55. > :28:01.opportunity to frame the negotiation by making it clear that we expect to

:28:02. > :28:06.agree the framework of our future relationship as a specifies an

:28:07. > :28:11.article 50 otherwise we are negotiating in the dark about the

:28:12. > :28:18.divorce arrangements and indeed I don't think the European Union will

:28:19. > :28:22.be have a sincere cooperation. What my right honourable friend conferred

:28:23. > :28:27.tee refers to is the need to negotiate in parallel the ongoing

:28:28. > :28:33.departure relationship and article 50 refers to having regarding the

:28:34. > :28:39.ongoing relationships you cannot include negotiation departure before

:28:40. > :28:45.concluding the ongoing arrangements. I've made this point already, I

:28:46. > :28:49.think the Prime Minister has made the point already to a number of her

:28:50. > :28:52.opposite numbers around the European Union, this'll be the first issue

:28:53. > :29:01.that we need to resolve at the beginning of negotiations. Will

:29:02. > :29:03.Parliaments get a vote on the Government's intended final deal

:29:04. > :29:17.before they deal is struck with the European Union? I suspect the final

:29:18. > :29:26.vote here... Their ratification process is much lower than ours. I'm

:29:27. > :29:29.extremely pleased that the white paper is being published and I would

:29:30. > :29:32.like to say thanks to him and his team as well for listening to

:29:33. > :29:37.honourable friends on the side of the House in our calls for a white

:29:38. > :29:45.paper, but would heal so join in sending a message to my constituents

:29:46. > :29:52.at their views. Willie also clarify if they will report for me back to

:29:53. > :30:02.the House? I'm not sure what well overall friend means by former

:30:03. > :30:10.reporter this is my sixth statement to the House, I have said at every

:30:11. > :30:15.opportunity what is going on, there will be substantial debates policy,

:30:16. > :30:19.there will undoubtedly be other Brexit debates, we have more plans

:30:20. > :30:26.already there is no question that the House will not be fully

:30:27. > :30:32.informed, this an illusion we have given them a white paper and as we

:30:33. > :30:36.said we have given them the answer on customs union and an answer on

:30:37. > :30:43.single markets. I don't know how much more open and Booth without

:30:44. > :30:47.being dissected. This government seems to be in a constant state of

:30:48. > :30:51.delayed reaction, we finally do have a paper on strengthening trade with

:30:52. > :30:55.the world that reads the retreat, a conspicuous amount of the space is

:30:56. > :31:01.totally blank, does that reflect the thinking on Brexit. The Government

:31:02. > :31:04.thinking on Brexit is very clear, one of the problems is when you

:31:05. > :31:08.disagree with it, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist and that is the

:31:09. > :31:17.problem the SNP have had all the way through, they don't like it. I think

:31:18. > :31:23.it occurs in every book I own. In welcoming this white paper I hope it

:31:24. > :31:28.heralds both unity in the party and the approach in leaving the European

:31:29. > :31:31.Union. May I commend all members the speech of the right honourable

:31:32. > :31:38.friend from North East Bedfordshire who yesterday spoke as the epitome

:31:39. > :31:44.of grace. I agree with him entirely on both accounts. Does Secretary of

:31:45. > :31:51.State except that the best way for the benefits of the common system

:31:52. > :32:01.and framework that enable UK and EU businesses, would be to stay in a

:32:02. > :32:05.single markets, there will need to be mechanisms to ensure UK

:32:06. > :32:11.regulations don't diverged from EU regulations and can explain what

:32:12. > :32:23.happens to sovereignty. The answer to the first question

:32:24. > :32:32.is no in terms of what the best relationship, we have laid this out

:32:33. > :32:40.in the paper and bearing in mind we are starting from a position of

:32:41. > :32:53.identity. He makes a good point we will publish that in due course, it

:32:54. > :33:03.is perfectly possible without reject to. Could my honourable friend

:33:04. > :33:08.inform the House so what the House will do to ensure the Gibraltar

:33:09. > :33:14.position and the free trade deal between passenger brothel which

:33:15. > :33:17.could happen before we leave? My honourable friend was giving

:33:18. > :33:26.evidence at the House of Lords on precisely this. We will protect

:33:27. > :33:30.their interests rigorously. The Secretary of State observes that the

:33:31. > :33:34.UK was a founding Member of the WTO but forgets that we were the driving

:33:35. > :33:39.force behind the completion of the single market. Does he understand

:33:40. > :33:44.how angry British businesses are that he should abandon that before

:33:45. > :33:49.negotiations even start. There is a lot of conflation that goes on

:33:50. > :33:55.between membership of single market and access to single markets. What

:33:56. > :33:58.British business wanted unfettered access, what German, French and

:33:59. > :34:17.Italian businesses want our unfettered access to our markets.

:34:18. > :34:26.In... Almost by definition because of coming out of the union that will

:34:27. > :34:34.happen, that is not to say we will not be making your, -- new

:34:35. > :34:41.arrangements, will be making arrangements with very clear in our

:34:42. > :34:51.mind to keep terrorism, crime under control but we will no doubt protect

:34:52. > :34:54.them. The local government Association has been asking for

:34:55. > :34:57.meetings with ministers about the impact on these processes on

:34:58. > :35:03.councils and how more powers can be devolved yet in the speech today I

:35:04. > :35:07.didn't a single reference to a local council and I can't see a single

:35:08. > :35:11.reference in the white paper having read it through quickly, or the

:35:12. > :35:14.Secretary of State now commit that the Government will have meaningful

:35:15. > :35:21.discussions with the LPGA and commit to the principle of subsidiarity as

:35:22. > :35:27.well. In a limited statement there is only so much you can do. The

:35:28. > :35:34.Minister of State in the department has already met with the LGA and has

:35:35. > :35:46.said he cancelled the local councils. I said I am willing to

:35:47. > :35:50.meet the mayors in the next round of elections so we're not putting the

:35:51. > :35:56.regions to one side, the very first meeting I heard after became

:35:57. > :36:05.secretary of state was in Blackburn talking to people in Lancashire.

:36:06. > :36:08.Thank you Mr Speaker. There are three British ambassadors in

:36:09. > :36:12.Brussels, can I ask my right honourable friend if he thinks our

:36:13. > :36:16.ambassador to the European Union will have his staff enhanced or

:36:17. > :36:24.indeed might he be scrapped after we leave the European Union? I assume

:36:25. > :36:29.he is talking about the upper ambassador and has 120 brilliant

:36:30. > :36:34.staff who will work for me. I don't know what the arrangements will be,

:36:35. > :36:41.what he refers to is an ambassador to Belgium, the Nato I assume and to

:36:42. > :36:44.our crab, the UK representation. We will undoubtedly have close

:36:45. > :36:47.relationships with the European Union and thereafter so it will be a

:36:48. > :36:56.pretty sizeable embassy I would think that it's won't be what it is

:36:57. > :37:00.now. Our current membership of the single market is governed by the EEA

:37:01. > :37:06.agreement and a note is the Government contention we are a

:37:07. > :37:11.Member by virtue, that may may not prove to be the case but can the

:37:12. > :37:16.Secretary of State be clear about the implications of our own domestic

:37:17. > :37:22.legislation in this regard, specifically the act of 1993, is the

:37:23. > :37:30.Government going to repeal it, if so when and will we get a vote? The EEA

:37:31. > :37:35.as it stands, once we are outside the European Union, whether we

:37:36. > :37:42.automatically cease to be a Member or not, as far as I'm concerned, it

:37:43. > :37:46.becomes an illegal empty vessel so we will look at that and if we do

:37:47. > :37:54.propose to withdraw will come back to the House.

:37:55. > :38:00.When European subjects have come to my surgery about their rights they

:38:01. > :38:05.have left an agreement that those rights must go hand-in-hand with

:38:06. > :38:10.UK's subjects living in their own countries. I hope he's got the

:38:11. > :38:15.message. I've got the message and so, incidentally, have the leaders

:38:16. > :38:19.of most of the countries. They also understand we have to protect

:38:20. > :38:23.British rights at the same time as we protect their citizens' rights.

:38:24. > :38:27.There is no question this is going to happen, it is a question of when

:38:28. > :38:34.and we are doing it as quickly as possible. We welcome the White Paper

:38:35. > :38:39.today and links with Ireland and trade and security and the wish for

:38:40. > :38:41.unfettered access. At the Northern Ireland affairs committee this week

:38:42. > :38:46.a custom specialist said the Irish for trading in goods would have to

:38:47. > :38:49.have board appoints either between Northern Ireland and Ireland, or

:38:50. > :38:52.much worse between Scotland and England and the island of Ireland.

:38:53. > :38:58.With the Minister guarantee we will not have hard borders of that type?

:38:59. > :39:03.We will not have hard borders. Two different levels, first the Common

:39:04. > :39:07.Travel Area exists already and has existed since 1923. In that respect

:39:08. > :39:12.nothing will change. In terms of goods there will be the softest and

:39:13. > :39:17.most invisible and frictionless border we can find. There is lots of

:39:18. > :39:21.technology these days ranging from a NPR ranging through to tagging of

:39:22. > :39:25.containers and trusted trade arrangements across borders, these

:39:26. > :39:30.things operate in Norway and Sweden, the US and Canada and so on,

:39:31. > :39:34.countries with very amicable relationships and open borders and

:39:35. > :39:41.we will do the same with Ireland. Doctor Andrew Mieres and. I thank

:39:42. > :39:46.the Secretary of State, the Venn diagram on page 48 is particularly

:39:47. > :39:49.insightful. People will know the European Union has concluded that

:39:50. > :39:54.stomach pathetically small numbers of free-trade agreements with other

:39:55. > :39:57.countries but there are some. Will he confirm there will either be a

:39:58. > :40:01.continuity arrangement with those countries on Brexit, or that that

:40:02. > :40:07.agreement will be the basis for an accelerated relationship with those

:40:08. > :40:09.very few countries? Yes, my Right Honourable friend, the Secretary of

:40:10. > :40:12.State for International Trade, has already been in touch with the most

:40:13. > :40:16.important ones, South Korea and others like that, and they seem very

:40:17. > :40:19.keen, both to maintain as it were grandfather rights, but also to

:40:20. > :40:24.improve on the deal and make it very much more tailored and specific to

:40:25. > :40:28.both our interests. Mr Speaker, I wanted to ask the question about the

:40:29. > :40:35.so-called Great Repeal Bill. The White Paper says it will preserve EU

:40:36. > :40:39.law which stands at the moment that we leave the European Union but goes

:40:40. > :40:42.on to say it foresees two pieces of primary legislation being brought

:40:43. > :40:49.forward. Then it goes on to say: they will be a problem with

:40:50. > :40:55.secondary legislation of the great repeal Bill, deficiencies. What

:40:56. > :41:00.deficiencies does he have in mind? Because the Great Repeal Bill will

:41:01. > :41:03.pass through in its official wording it were referred to Europe

:41:04. > :41:09.institutions or British institutions where necessary also it may refer

:41:10. > :41:12.to, for example, local government has to publish its procurement

:41:13. > :41:18.contracts in the European Journal. That would no longer be appropriate.

:41:19. > :41:21.Not on the government website and so on. It's that sort of concern we

:41:22. > :41:26.principally aimed the secondary legislation at. The major areas of

:41:27. > :41:32.policy change will be primarily in primary legislation and that's why

:41:33. > :41:35.we cited both examples. I welcome my Right Honourable friend's

:41:36. > :41:41.constructive approach and in that light could I draw his attention to

:41:42. > :41:53.a report by the European Parliament, highlighting Europeans' reliance,

:41:54. > :41:57.and urged negotiators to approach it in a constructive fashion. We intend

:41:58. > :42:01.to do so and it's in the interest of ourselves and European Union we do

:42:02. > :42:04.so. We don't want anything which causes instability in the Eurozone

:42:05. > :42:11.anymore that anything that damages the city. Margaret Ferrier.

:42:12. > :42:17.Remarkably the White Paper does not contain a single reference to

:42:18. > :42:22.Eurojust or any real indication of our future cooperation with the EU

:42:23. > :42:25.on criminal justice matters. It begs the question if something is so

:42:26. > :42:30.significant has been omitted what else is missing? Never mind a White

:42:31. > :42:35.Paper, this is a lightweight paper. She worked very hard to get her

:42:36. > :42:40.sound bite out. There is a whole section on justice and home affairs

:42:41. > :42:45.and we have made it very plain, over and over again, that we intend to

:42:46. > :42:49.maintain close Corporation, I even said in my statement at the

:42:50. > :42:52.beginning, closer cooperation with Europe, not less cooperation with

:42:53. > :42:57.Europe on matters of security and crime and intelligence. Understand

:42:58. > :43:01.that Europe has a great deal to gain from this. We are the intelligence

:43:02. > :43:05.superpower in Europe, we have the most powerful intelligence agencies,

:43:06. > :43:08.and therefore in things like crime and terrorism we are very important

:43:09. > :43:17.to them, as we think they are to us too. Glyn Davies. Thank you, Mr

:43:18. > :43:21.Speaker, my hearing is a bit defective. There has already been

:43:22. > :43:25.significant discussion between the Prime Minister and Welsh government

:43:26. > :43:29.following the referendum last June. And discussion within the Welsh

:43:30. > :43:33.Parliament. I welcome this. In the interests of UK unity wells's

:43:34. > :43:38.interests must be taken into account, including discussion of

:43:39. > :43:41.this White Paper -- Wales's interests. Can you guarantee the

:43:42. > :43:46.involvement of Wales and continued to feature in our discussions,

:43:47. > :43:50.accepting that there can be no veto? He is absolutely right and that has

:43:51. > :43:54.been the approach we have taken. We have had a number of meetings of the

:43:55. > :43:59.joint Mysterio committee, two shared. Mike Cherry by the Prime

:44:00. > :44:01.Minister and three of them by me -- joint ministerial committee. We have

:44:02. > :44:06.been to Wales to see the Welsh government and talk about some of

:44:07. > :44:11.these issues. My Right Honourable friend is appearing before the Welsh

:44:12. > :44:16.Parliament, Welsh committee, sorry, on the 14th. We are taking the

:44:17. > :44:22.interests of Wales extremely seriously. We will operate this

:44:23. > :44:27.negotiation so that no part of the United Kingdom loses. That's the

:44:28. > :44:32.aim. Madeleine Moon. If we are leaving the Single Market and

:44:33. > :44:41.Customs union, can the Secretary of State guarantee that my workers who

:44:42. > :44:49.make the steel for Nissan cars, two thirds of which are exported to the

:44:50. > :44:53.European Union, will have tariff free access to the European Union

:44:54. > :45:04.markets, or is it only promise to negotiate and seek? If she reads the

:45:05. > :45:09.White Paper she will see it lays out the European export of goods and

:45:10. > :45:17.services is 290 billion and hours to them is 230 billion so they clearly

:45:18. > :45:21.have a strong interest from as we do, in a tariff free goods access.

:45:22. > :45:28.For them goods are a much bigger part of it as well. This disparity

:45:29. > :45:31.is over 60 billion. There is every reason to expect we will succeed in

:45:32. > :45:37.what we want to do which is to protect jobs. Martin Vickers. My

:45:38. > :45:42.Right Honourable friend will recall last week at promised questions I

:45:43. > :45:47.asked about the seed sector that sector will be pleased with the

:45:48. > :45:51.comment in paragraph 8:1.6 giving full support but he will also be

:45:52. > :45:54.aware of the long-standing grievance of the fishing communities

:45:55. > :45:58.up-and-down the country following their sell-out in the original

:45:59. > :46:07.negotiations. Can he reiterate once again that that will not occur on

:46:08. > :46:13.this occasion? Yes. Martin Docherty-Hughes. Thank you, Mr

:46:14. > :46:17.Speaker. The Secretary of State makes much of the process and joked

:46:18. > :46:21.that we might be at this for another two years, yet in that time the

:46:22. > :46:25.unelected and unaccountable House of Lords will have more influence on

:46:26. > :46:28.the implementation of the White Paper and the negotiations in

:46:29. > :46:31.relationships we must forge for trade agreements than the

:46:32. > :46:36.governments of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. How does that

:46:37. > :46:42.strengthen the union? It's simply not the case. As I just said to my

:46:43. > :46:45.honourable friend, we have regular monthly meetings with the Scottish

:46:46. > :46:51.Government, the Welsh government, the Northern Irish executive when

:46:52. > :46:54.they are in play and we are taking what they say very seriously. We

:46:55. > :46:58.won't agree with everything they say, as you well know. We had the

:46:59. > :47:04.Scottish Government's paper presented at the last meeting and

:47:05. > :47:09.there were areas of agreement on employment protection, areas of

:47:10. > :47:15.agreement on environmental to. There were disagreements over the concept

:47:16. > :47:18.of a carve out of the Single Market and a discussion on the question of

:47:19. > :47:24.how devolution will work. That is hardly not paying attention to the

:47:25. > :47:28.Scottish Government. Mr Speaker, thank you. I welcome the White Paper

:47:29. > :47:31.and I am glad the government has listened to members and may I say

:47:32. > :47:36.that EU nationals play a vital part in a university's workplaces. Can I

:47:37. > :47:40.ask the Secretary of State while I support the need for some control of

:47:41. > :47:44.freedom of movement, will he ensure in negotiations that workers,

:47:45. > :47:48.students, family members find that our borders remain open if they are

:47:49. > :47:52.from the EU? After all, control does not mean arbitrary restrictions?

:47:53. > :47:57.Absolutely, control does not mean slamming the door. As I said before,

:47:58. > :48:04.it's in the UK interest to actually keep attracting talent, and when you

:48:05. > :48:07.attract talent you attract their families. That goes without saying.

:48:08. > :48:10.This is one of the things, I was asked if I could promise something

:48:11. > :48:13.earlier to be negotiated, this is something we will decide in this

:48:14. > :48:20.House for the first time in a couple of years' time. One crucial, I think

:48:21. > :48:24.reasonable, question for the Secretary of State, is how does he

:48:25. > :48:29.seek frictionless, unfettered trade with the EU continuing after we have

:48:30. > :48:31.signed free-trade deals with other countries? Surely, Secretary of

:48:32. > :48:34.State, the greater the divergence between ourselves and Single Market

:48:35. > :48:37.in terms of external tariffs and standards the greater their need at

:48:38. > :48:43.some point to impose customs duties on us. We seek to maintain some kind

:48:44. > :48:47.of standard parity, whether it is by a measure of equivalence or whatever

:48:48. > :48:51.depending on the product. The area where the deals outside and the

:48:52. > :48:55.deals with the European Union conflict, if you like, is in the

:48:56. > :49:01.area of rules of origin. We will have to have a good rules of origin

:49:02. > :49:05.scheme, just as any other free-trade area has. For example, if you look

:49:06. > :49:09.at the Canadian treaty it has specific rules of origin and we will

:49:10. > :49:12.need to do the same. That is a very small burden by comparison with the

:49:13. > :49:18.sort of things people are worrying about if we get the customs

:49:19. > :49:22.agreement we seek. Thank you, Mr Speaker. When does my Right

:49:23. > :49:25.Honourable thing, if ever, the European Union will issue an

:49:26. > :49:30.equivalent White Paper setting out with equal clarity the agreed

:49:31. > :49:39.negotiating objectives of the 27 other members? Well, his question

:49:40. > :49:44.sort of answers itself. But I hope, I hope, once they have received the

:49:45. > :49:48.Article 50 letter from us in April or May, in their case they will

:49:49. > :49:53.receive it in March and respond in April.

:49:54. > :49:57.Thank you, Mr Speaker. I know that today is Groundhog Day, but why are

:49:58. > :50:02.we exiting the customs union in order to recreate the customs union?

:50:03. > :50:08.It is to create a customs agreement, in order to enable us to develop

:50:09. > :50:12.free-trade agreements with that huge portion of the world where there is

:50:13. > :50:23.very fast growth and where we have a strong market presence. 40%, as much

:50:24. > :50:24.of our trade now is with areas where we don't have

:50:25. > :50:27.as it is with the European Union. It is a very large area and it is

:50:28. > :50:34.growing, sometimes twice as fast, as the EU is. That's why we have to

:50:35. > :50:37.talk about the implications of the referendum are young people. The

:50:38. > :50:41.biggest application is the prospect of jobs in the future and many of

:50:42. > :50:49.those will come from global markets, not just European ones. Nigel Evans.

:50:50. > :50:52.Lots of the politicians in EU states say they are against torture but

:50:53. > :50:56.don't they recognise the fact they are not willing to come to a deal

:50:57. > :50:59.with him about EU citizens being allowed to stay, live and work here

:51:00. > :51:05.and British citizens being allowed to live and stay and work in the EU

:51:06. > :51:08.countries is a form of mental trauma and torture they are perpetrating

:51:09. > :51:11.upon them? Will he redouble his efforts to get the deal done as

:51:12. > :51:15.quickly as possible and make the announcement as quickly as possible.

:51:16. > :51:18.If there is only one or two countries holding out for whatever

:51:19. > :51:21.reason, will he be prepared to name and shame them in order that The

:51:22. > :51:26.Citizens here can bring pressure upon them to get a deal done? I will

:51:27. > :51:30.certainly do the first half, I will redouble my efforts, though they are

:51:31. > :51:34.pretty intense anyway, to ensure that this happens quickly. He's

:51:35. > :51:40.right, it's just a few, and I suspect their reasoning is the sort

:51:41. > :51:43.of community reasoning of not starting anything before the

:51:44. > :51:49.negotiations start and I hope that will be rapidly resolved thereafter.

:51:50. > :51:52.Doctor Julian Lewis. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Doesn't the fact that so

:51:53. > :51:57.many honourable members on both sides of the House who wanted us to

:51:58. > :52:02.remain in the European Union, but nevertheless last night voted to

:52:03. > :52:07.trigger Article 50, set a fine example that members of the

:52:08. > :52:14.unelected upper house would do very well to follow? Mr Speaker, I am

:52:15. > :52:18.sitting here calculating whether his question today was longer than his

:52:19. > :52:24.speech yesterday. I think it was. Yes, I hope they pay attention.

:52:25. > :52:30.Look, this Bill is a manifestation of the will of the people. Nearly

:52:31. > :52:33.17.5 million people. I would expect the upper house, it has its place

:52:34. > :52:38.and it has its rights quite properly, but I would expect the

:52:39. > :52:43.upper house to respect that will. SPEAKER: I'm grateful to the

:52:44. > :52:47.Secretary of State and two colleagues. We come now to the

:52:48. > :52:51.Select Committee Statement. In a moment the chair of the public

:52:52. > :52:54.administration and Constitutional affairs Select Committee of the

:52:55. > :53:00.House, Mr Bernard Jenkin, will speak on his subject for up to ten minutes

:53:01. > :53:06.during which time no interventions may be taken. At the conclusion of

:53:07. > :53:11.his statement the chair will call members to put questions on the

:53:12. > :53:16.subject of the statement and call Mr Jenkin to respond to these in turn.

:53:17. > :53:24.Members can expect to be called only once. Interventions should be

:53:25. > :53:28.questions and should be brief. The front bench may take part in

:53:29. > :53:29.questioning. I call the