15/10/2016

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:00:15. > :00:22.From here in the BBC newsroom, we send out correspondents to bring

:00:23. > :00:26.you the best reports from across the globe.

:00:27. > :00:30.In this week's programme: Defectors from Daesh.

:00:31. > :00:33.Quentin Somerville gets exclusive access to a Syrian camp for former

:00:34. > :00:35.so-called Islamic State jihadists and their families

:00:36. > :00:39.TRANSLATION: They use people like human meat.

:00:40. > :00:45.I hope I can get out soon and live my life normally.

:00:46. > :00:50.Hello, my name is Cathy Ingram, and I'm voting for Hillary Clinton.

:00:51. > :00:54.I am Jay Ingram and this is my son Cade, and we are voting for Trump.

:00:55. > :00:59.With less than four weeks to go until the US election,

:01:00. > :01:01.Rajini Vaidyanathan meets one of many families divided

:01:02. > :01:14.Chris Buckler visits Londonderry in Northern Ireland and asks,

:01:15. > :01:16.could there be some truth in the legend?

:01:17. > :01:18.Do you object to being called a giant?

:01:19. > :01:21.No, not at all, people call me what they like, and many's

:01:22. > :01:31.They're jihadist fighters, many who have come from all over

:01:32. > :01:33.the world, but share one thing in common.

:01:34. > :01:35.They have defected from the so-called Islamic State.

:01:36. > :01:38.The BBC has had exclusive access to a secret internment camp

:01:39. > :01:40.for around 300 former IS militants and captured fighters,

:01:41. > :01:43.including French, Dutch and Polish nationals

:01:44. > :01:49.They are being held at the prison, operated by a rebel group that

:01:50. > :01:52.claims it is trying to rehabilitate them, and in some cases,

:01:53. > :01:54.then release them, and as Quentin Sommerville reports,

:01:55. > :02:05.Where do jihadists go when their beloved Islamic State

:02:06. > :02:15.Some are being held here, at a secret camp in northern Syria.

:02:16. > :02:17.The men are from Europe, across the Middle East,

:02:18. > :02:23.They are defectors and prisoners of war, so few want

:02:24. > :02:32.In retreat, many have brought their families with them.

:02:33. > :02:37.He joined the so-called Islamic State from Holland.

:02:38. > :02:41.Now a captive, he renounces the group.

:02:42. > :02:45.TRANSLATION: They use people like human meat.

:02:46. > :02:48.You give your life to them, so they are going to start to take

:02:49. > :02:52.I know I will get into trouble, but this is what I choose,

:02:53. > :03:03.I hope I can get out soon and live my life normally.

:03:04. > :03:05.These are Egyptians, Tunisians, Holland...

:03:06. > :03:08.The camp is run by the rebel group Jaish Al Tahrir.

:03:09. > :03:11.Its commander showed me the details of dozens of prisoners.

:03:12. > :03:14.Some will be returned to Europe if the authorities promise to jail

:03:15. > :03:23.them, but others will face Syrian justice.

:03:24. > :03:25.TRANSLATION: We refer them to courts and they rule according

:03:26. > :03:29.If they have committed murder, then they might be executed.

:03:30. > :03:31.Some are jailed just because they still hold

:03:32. > :03:40.The Islamic State's core is collapsing.

:03:41. > :03:42.They are losing territory, and an increasing number of people

:03:43. > :03:49.Joining IS was relatively easy, but leaving is difficult.

:03:50. > :03:52."It was hard, really hard," says this defector,

:03:53. > :04:02.We have also learned that European intelligence agencies

:04:03. > :04:05.are on a mission in northern Syria to find, capture

:04:06. > :04:13.They are working alongside some rebel groups to create a kind

:04:14. > :04:15.of underground railroad which will bring IS group supporters

:04:16. > :04:23.For now, they are held in Syria, but these European jihadists

:04:24. > :04:31.Quentin Sommerville, BBC News, Istanbul.

:04:32. > :04:34.In four weeks' time, Americans will finally vote

:04:35. > :04:36.in their presidential election, which makes the fact that

:04:37. > :04:39.Donald Trump is waging war on his own Republican party

:04:40. > :04:44.But it's not just the Republicans who are divided.

:04:45. > :04:48.Many families are finding themselves at odds, some siding

:04:49. > :04:52.with Hillary Clinton, others with Donald Trump.

:04:53. > :04:54.Rajini Vaidyanathan has gone to meet one such

:04:55. > :04:55.family in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, facing

:04:56. > :05:03.In the key battleground state of Pennsylvania, the Ingram family

:05:04. > :05:13.Hello, my name is Cathy Ingram, and I'm voting for Hillary Clinton.

:05:14. > :05:16.I'm Jay Ingram, this is my son Cade, and we're voting for Trump.

:05:17. > :05:18.I think she's totally crazy because she's voting for Hillary,

:05:19. > :05:21.and she thinks I'm totally crazy because I'm voting for Trump.

:05:22. > :05:22.And obviously one of us is right.

:05:23. > :05:29.His questions were all attacks on Trump.

:05:30. > :05:32.At dinner, talk of politics is unsurprisingly lively.

:05:33. > :05:34.Jay's vote for Donald Trump is as much a vote against

:05:35. > :05:40.Hillary Clinton, the candidate his wife Cathy is supporting.

:05:41. > :05:42.She wants to do the best for the country, so even though

:05:43. > :05:48.she has a little bit of a storied past, and she has some ideas that

:05:49. > :05:51.really need to be pushed through that on the Democratic side

:05:52. > :05:54.she hasn't been able to push through...

:05:55. > :05:56.You believe she comes off as a good person,

:05:57. > :06:05.She reminds me of the evil schoolmarm, the schoolteacher.

:06:06. > :06:07.I mean, you know, she's old, she's overweight, just like...

:06:08. > :06:16.No, he is, what, he's 230 and hits a golf ball 280, so he's fine.

:06:17. > :06:19.A self-confessed liberal, Jay backed Bernie Sanders

:06:20. > :06:22.in this year's primaries and voted for Barack Obama

:06:23. > :06:28.I really believed he was going to do things.

:06:29. > :06:31.I believed what he said, the fool that I am.

:06:32. > :06:35.He seemed to like to just sit around and tell jokes and look pretty.

:06:36. > :06:38.Their elder son Cade is getting ready to cast his ballot

:06:39. > :06:40.for the first time, and he's with his dad.

:06:41. > :06:43.I could not bring myself to vote for Hillary,

:06:44. > :06:47.there's just too many strikes against her.

:06:48. > :06:50.A lot of people like to make excuses for what happened, but...

:06:51. > :06:52.She'll literally say anything to get elected.

:06:53. > :06:53.He never threw one attack at Hillary.

:06:54. > :07:03.The table's as split as this state, where it is looking close between

:07:04. > :07:08.I golf every day of the week, and I meet a lot of people,

:07:09. > :07:14.and nobody comes out and goes "I'm voting for Trump."

:07:15. > :07:17.But they'll come up to me after I've made a putt, and say,

:07:18. > :07:21.I just don't think the passion is out there behind anyone,

:07:22. > :07:28.The undecided voters in Pennsylvania are key this election.

:07:29. > :07:33.Whatever the outcome, expect sparks to fly in this house

:07:34. > :07:44.Rajini Vaidyanathan, BBC News, Lancaster.

:07:45. > :07:46.Ireland is rich in mythical tales about giants, and now

:07:47. > :07:49.there is a thought that those legends may be built more

:07:50. > :07:53.Scientists are working to identify people carrying

:07:54. > :07:57.Researchers have found it is more commonly carried by people

:07:58. > :08:00.in County Londonderry in Northern Ireland.

:08:01. > :08:02.Chris Buckler has been there to find out, is there any

:08:03. > :08:13.These stone circles are not the only link to history here in Mid Ulster.

:08:14. > :08:17.This is a land of giants, and that's a title that comes not

:08:18. > :08:26.That's me when I was seven, eight years old.

:08:27. > :08:31.At his height, he stood almost six feet 11 inches tall,

:08:32. > :08:34.and it's likely he would have grown to well over seven feet tall

:08:35. > :08:36.if he hadn't been treated for a genetic disorder

:08:37. > :08:39.Do you object to being called a giant?

:08:40. > :08:41.No, not at all, people can call me what they like,

:08:42. > :09:02.However, gigantism is a condition that can be life-threatening.

:09:03. > :09:04.My mother passed it to me, and she never knew that.

:09:05. > :09:07.And many people still, to this day, are passing the gene

:09:08. > :09:13.on without knowing it, and that will continue.

:09:14. > :09:17.DNA evidence shows Brendan is related to Charles Byrne.

:09:18. > :09:20.Born in Mid Ulster in the 1700s, he became famous in London

:09:21. > :09:47.-- his skeleton is still part of a museum.

:09:48. > :09:50.Irish folklore is full of tales of giants, not least Finn McCool,

:09:51. > :09:52.who is claimed to have built Antrim's famous Giant's Causeway.

:09:53. > :09:55.Researchers believe in at least some of the many stories,

:09:56. > :09:59.And with the gene still present in the population here,

:10:00. > :10:01.they have been carrying out tests to try to identify

:10:02. > :10:07.It is keeping 63, but you do not want to be seven food. Both -- most

:10:08. > :10:11.giants wish they were normal. There was probably at least some

:10:12. > :10:13.truth in the centuries of stories told about giants,

:10:14. > :10:16.but it's likely that at their heart was a gene that caused

:10:17. > :10:18.considerable pain and problems. That's why many want the idea

:10:19. > :10:21.of generations of giants to be Chris Buckler, BBC News,

:10:22. > :10:32.Mid Ulster. And that's all from us this week.

:10:33. > :10:35.From me, Philippa Thomas, goodbye for now.