0:00:16 > 0:00:17Welcome to Reporters.
0:00:17 > 0:00:18I'm Philippa Thomas.
0:00:18 > 0:00:21From here in the BBC newsroom, we send out correspondents to bring
0:00:21 > 0:00:23you the best stories from across the globe.
0:00:23 > 0:00:28In this week's programme, the future of fuel in America.
0:00:28 > 0:00:32Ahead of the US election, David Shukman assesses
0:00:32 > 0:00:34whether cleaner energy, like solar power, could be a viable
0:00:34 > 0:00:37alternative to coal.
0:00:37 > 0:00:40A factory like this one is now producing solar panels that
0:00:40 > 0:00:41have tumbled in price.
0:00:41 > 0:00:44It means that solar power can be roughly comparable in cost
0:00:44 > 0:00:48to power produced by coal.
0:00:48 > 0:00:49Where are you sleeping?
0:00:49 > 0:00:50Here.
0:00:50 > 0:00:52On the street?
0:00:52 > 0:00:54In the highway.
0:00:54 > 0:00:57Chris Buckler meets the teenagers who have risked their lives to get
0:00:57 > 0:01:02to Europe, now living alone on the streets of Italy.
0:01:02 > 0:01:04The new Saharan gold rush.
0:01:04 > 0:01:06Hanan Razek reports from Mauritania, where thousands are hoping
0:01:06 > 0:01:10to strike it rich.
0:01:10 > 0:01:11Can you show me the gold you found?
0:01:11 > 0:01:12One gram.
0:01:12 > 0:01:13One gram.
0:01:13 > 0:01:14Six grams.
0:01:14 > 0:01:18That is a fortune.
0:01:18 > 0:01:20After Rio's Olympic success, Secunder Kermani asks whether Brazil
0:01:20 > 0:01:22now faces its biggest embarrassment, botching the organisation
0:01:22 > 0:01:28of the Paralympics.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31There has been a disrespect for the Paralympic Games,
0:01:31 > 0:01:33for the potential and the impact that could have made
0:01:33 > 0:01:36for the people of Brazil.
0:01:36 > 0:01:39And Q in conversation.
0:01:39 > 0:01:42As the Proms celebrates Quincy Jones' 60-year career,
0:01:42 > 0:01:45Stephen Smith talks to the jazz legend about music, race, politics
0:01:45 > 0:01:49and his old friend, Donald Trump.
0:01:49 > 0:01:51Do not even talk about it.
0:01:51 > 0:01:54We have one choice.
0:01:54 > 0:02:01I would leave the country if that sucker won.
0:02:02 > 0:02:04First, to the United States, where the result of November's
0:02:04 > 0:02:07presidential election is likely to have a far-reaching
0:02:07 > 0:02:11effect on the future of America's energy policy.
0:02:11 > 0:02:13Donald Trump says global warming is not worth worrying
0:02:13 > 0:02:15about and he has pledged to revive the coal industry.
0:02:15 > 0:02:19But Hillary Clinton is warning that climate change is one of the most
0:02:19 > 0:02:23serious threats facing the world.
0:02:23 > 0:02:27She wants the US to invest more in renewable power.
0:02:27 > 0:02:29David Shukman reports from Ohio on the political battle
0:02:29 > 0:02:35over the future of fuel.
0:02:35 > 0:02:39On the Ohio River, a vast fleet of barges laden with coal,
0:02:39 > 0:02:42part of a massive industry that has powered the American economy
0:02:42 > 0:02:45for more than a hundred years.
0:02:45 > 0:02:49But as I visit this sprawling complex, coal is now caught up
0:02:49 > 0:02:52in the battle for the White House.
0:02:52 > 0:02:57Put simply, Donald Trump supports it, Hillary Clinton does not.
0:02:57 > 0:02:59The coal mines here are like underground cities,
0:02:59 > 0:03:04stretching for miles.
0:03:04 > 0:03:06But because of tough pollution controls and cheaper shale gas,
0:03:06 > 0:03:09dozens of mining companies have filed for bankruptcy.
0:03:09 > 0:03:15Donald Trump offers them the prospect of revival.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17We catch the end of a shift.
0:03:17 > 0:03:20By the end of the year, this mine will close.
0:03:20 > 0:03:21The miners blame environmentalists and President Obama's
0:03:21 > 0:03:24actions on climate change.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27One leading mine owner, a Trump supporter, tells me real
0:03:27 > 0:03:31damage has been done.
0:03:31 > 0:03:33If two coalminers are laid off, if they own anything
0:03:33 > 0:03:35it is their homes.
0:03:35 > 0:03:40When they get laid off, they have no-one to sell that home too.
0:03:40 > 0:03:43Those people who want to work in honour and dignity
0:03:43 > 0:03:45are denied that.
0:03:45 > 0:03:49It is not the America I cherish, which is why I speak out like I do.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52That is why I say Obama is the greatest scourge that America
0:03:52 > 0:03:54has ever had in its history.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56The problem with coal comes when you burn it.
0:03:56 > 0:03:58It releases carbon dioxide, which is blamed for global warming.
0:03:58 > 0:04:01Donald Trump says that is not a problem but Hillary
0:04:01 > 0:04:08Clinton says it is.
0:04:08 > 0:04:12She is offering a greener future instead.
0:04:13 > 0:04:18In another corner of Ohio, a clean way of generating power.
0:04:18 > 0:04:20At this local company, First Solar, robots and people
0:04:20 > 0:04:23churn out a solar panel every single second.
0:04:23 > 0:04:28A new industry is rising as an older one declines.
0:04:28 > 0:04:31While the debate rages over whether climate change is a threat
0:04:31 > 0:04:35or not, there has been an incredibly rapid industrial transformation
0:04:35 > 0:04:38so that a factory like this one is now producing solar panels that
0:04:38 > 0:04:40have tumbled in price.
0:04:40 > 0:04:44It means that solar power can be roughly comparable in cost
0:04:44 > 0:04:47to power produced by coal.
0:04:47 > 0:04:49Whoever wins the American presidential election,
0:04:49 > 0:04:54low carbon power may make sense anyway.
0:04:54 > 0:04:57There are solar panels at the Museum of Art in Toledo.
0:04:57 > 0:04:59And at the city's zoo.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02Renewable energy is becoming more of a feature of everyday life
0:05:02 > 0:05:06and great arrays like this one, covering entire fields,
0:05:06 > 0:05:08are no longer so unusual.
0:05:08 > 0:05:10Panel by panel, America is becoming greener without many
0:05:10 > 0:05:16people even realising.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18I just think we have some politicians that are
0:05:18 > 0:05:20fighting the last war, they are fighting over something,
0:05:20 > 0:05:22they still believe solar power is somewhere out
0:05:22 > 0:05:23there in the future.
0:05:23 > 0:05:28It is here now.
0:05:28 > 0:05:32We've probably passed the tipping point, the turning point,
0:05:32 > 0:05:34and they just do not know it yet.
0:05:34 > 0:05:39All this matters because America is the world's largest economy.
0:05:39 > 0:05:43Its decisions on energy could boost or undermine international action
0:05:43 > 0:05:46on global warming under the Paris Climate Agreement.
0:05:46 > 0:05:49Donald Trump says he will pull America out of it.
0:05:49 > 0:05:51Hillary Clinton supports it, so a great deal hangs
0:05:51 > 0:05:53on the outcome of this election.
0:05:53 > 0:05:58David Shukman, BBC News in Ohio.
0:05:59 > 0:06:01It is still one of the biggest crises facing
0:06:01 > 0:06:02Europe in a generation.
0:06:02 > 0:06:06Latest figures suggest more than 100,000 migrants came to Italy
0:06:06 > 0:06:09by boat from North Africa this year.
0:06:09 > 0:06:11And more and more of them are children.
0:06:11 > 0:06:16The charity Save The Children says as many as 15,000 unaccompanied
0:06:16 > 0:06:20minors made this perilous journey.
0:06:20 > 0:06:24Chris Buckler met some of them as they arrived on a rescue ship
0:06:24 > 0:06:27in the port of Catania in Sicily.
0:06:28 > 0:06:29Arriving from Africa, both young and old see
0:06:30 > 0:06:31Europe's wealth.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34A different world from the poverty and in some cases turmoil that many
0:06:34 > 0:06:39are trying to leave behind.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42But each new face that appears in places like Catania adds
0:06:42 > 0:06:48to the pressure on resources.
0:06:48 > 0:06:50That is particularly true for the children who arrive
0:06:50 > 0:06:53all too often alone.
0:06:53 > 0:06:56It is obvious in the city around this port that many live
0:06:56 > 0:07:00on the fringes of the system that is supposed to protect them,
0:07:00 > 0:07:04if not completely apart from it.
0:07:04 > 0:07:07Among the teenagers we found here was Fattah.
0:07:07 > 0:07:10He travelled by himself from the troubled country of Somalia
0:07:10 > 0:07:13to try to get an education.
0:07:13 > 0:07:17We are not showing his face because he is only 14.
0:07:17 > 0:07:20Are there not dangers for you because your mum is not
0:07:20 > 0:07:22here, your dad is not here?
0:07:22 > 0:07:26You're by yourself.
0:07:30 > 0:07:36So where are you sleeping?
0:07:36 > 0:07:37On the street?
0:07:37 > 0:07:39In the highway?
0:07:39 > 0:07:40Yes.
0:07:40 > 0:07:47That is dangerous.
0:07:48 > 0:07:50Have you made friends?
0:07:50 > 0:07:57You do not have friends?
0:07:58 > 0:08:00Workers from the charity Save The Children were with us
0:08:00 > 0:08:02when we spoke to Fattah.
0:08:02 > 0:08:06They helped to find him somewhere safe to stay that evening.
0:08:06 > 0:08:08In towns and cities across Italy, that is becoming increasingly
0:08:08 > 0:08:11difficult, with reception centres filling up as boats continue
0:08:11 > 0:08:16to arrive with vulnerable children.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19Today, there was one girl who was 15 years old from Eritrea
0:08:19 > 0:08:22and she was eight-months pregnant.
0:08:22 > 0:08:24Many children choose to continue their journey alone
0:08:24 > 0:08:26and this is extremely dangerous because they are constantly
0:08:26 > 0:08:28falling into the hands of smugglers and traffickers.
0:08:28 > 0:08:30They are at risk of exploitation.
0:08:30 > 0:08:32Many girls are forced into prostitution in order
0:08:32 > 0:08:34to make their way.
0:08:34 > 0:08:36Keeping a separation between the worlds of children
0:08:36 > 0:08:41and adults is proving to be a challenge.
0:08:41 > 0:08:44There are children who simply leave the reception centres
0:08:44 > 0:08:47and there is little the staff there can do to stop them.
0:08:47 > 0:08:50But there is a wider issue.
0:08:50 > 0:08:54Europe is starting to struggle to provide the education,
0:08:54 > 0:08:56shelter and stability needed by the unaccompanied children
0:08:56 > 0:09:00arriving on its shores.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03For refugees and migrants of all ages, home is both something
0:09:03 > 0:09:06that has been left behind as well as something
0:09:06 > 0:09:08they have still to find.
0:09:08 > 0:09:13Chris Buckler, BBC News, Catania.
0:09:14 > 0:09:16Now, this could be the world's newest gold rush.
0:09:16 > 0:09:20Thousands of people are flocking to a mineral rich area
0:09:20 > 0:09:23of the Sahara Desert in the hope of making a fortune.
0:09:23 > 0:09:25It follows the Mauritanian government's decision to allow
0:09:25 > 0:09:28people to dig in the sand, which has seen some give up
0:09:28 > 0:09:31everything in the hope of striking it rich.
0:09:31 > 0:09:35Hanan Razek reports from Mauritania on tales of dreams
0:09:35 > 0:09:43and despair in the desert.
0:09:43 > 0:09:46Here, in the middle of the desert, thousands of Mauritanians
0:09:46 > 0:09:50are chasing one dream, to become rich.
0:09:50 > 0:09:52Tales of making tens of thousands of pounds have
0:09:52 > 0:09:54triggered a gold rush.
0:09:54 > 0:09:56Can you show me the gold you found?
0:09:56 > 0:09:58This is only today?
0:09:58 > 0:09:59One gram.
0:09:59 > 0:10:00One gram, how about yourself?
0:10:00 > 0:10:04Six grams?
0:10:04 > 0:10:08That is a fortune.
0:10:08 > 0:10:11In a country of high unemployment, being given the opportunity to dig
0:10:11 > 0:10:14for gold is irresistible.
0:10:14 > 0:10:19Some have found enough gold to buy a house.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22Firstly, they dig the sand out of these holes, lay it flat,
0:10:22 > 0:10:24then sweep it with a metal detector.
0:10:24 > 0:10:30Whether it is a success or not is really down to luck.
0:10:30 > 0:10:33In the baking heat, with little water, and no easy medical access,
0:10:33 > 0:10:36they spend their days digging.
0:10:36 > 0:10:40Only their dreams make these punishing conditions bearable
0:10:40 > 0:10:46and some will risk everything.
0:10:47 > 0:10:51Ahmed has put his future on the line.
0:10:51 > 0:10:53TRANSLATION: I came back from abroad, for the opportunity
0:10:53 > 0:10:56of working in my country.
0:10:56 > 0:10:58I brought my children and my wife.
0:10:58 > 0:11:05I sold everything, I wanted to get some gold and have a new life.
0:11:06 > 0:11:08Before making the long journey, Ahmed needed to buy
0:11:08 > 0:11:11a digging licence and spend thousands more on equipment.
0:11:11 > 0:11:13Now there are calls for Mauritania's government to highlight
0:11:13 > 0:11:16the financial risks.
0:11:16 > 0:11:19TRANSLATION: The decision was based on a popular demand.
0:11:19 > 0:11:21Since the living standard here is quite low, the government
0:11:21 > 0:11:24has sought to regulate the digging at an affordable price
0:11:24 > 0:11:32for the licence.
0:11:35 > 0:11:38The equipment prices in comparison with average wages are high.
0:11:38 > 0:11:40Some people make less than a dollar a day.
0:11:40 > 0:11:42But with more than a quarter of Mauritanians living below
0:11:42 > 0:11:45the poverty line, the government said its decision to allow gold
0:11:45 > 0:11:50digging will improve the lives of many families.
0:11:50 > 0:11:53After Ahmed's big gamble and spending 27 days here,
0:11:53 > 0:11:57all he has found is six grams of gold, worth 1%
0:11:57 > 0:11:59of what he has spent.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02Yet, like many others, he still comes back,
0:12:02 > 0:12:06hoping to turn his luck around.
0:12:06 > 0:12:10Hanan Razek, BBC News, Mauritania.
0:12:11 > 0:12:13You've got to hand it to Rio.
0:12:13 > 0:12:16When it came to the Olympics, they got away with it,
0:12:16 > 0:12:17more than got away with it.
0:12:17 > 0:12:19Whatever the worries, the mishaps, the less
0:12:19 > 0:12:22than crowded stadiums, the Games were actually great.
0:12:22 > 0:12:24And in a city that does not have the resources
0:12:24 > 0:12:27of London or Beijing, they showed you can still host
0:12:27 > 0:12:30a successful Olympics with less.
0:12:30 > 0:12:33But when it comes to the Paralympics, Rio does not seem
0:12:33 > 0:12:36to be on such firm ground.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38Ticket sales are appalling.
0:12:38 > 0:12:42Budget cuts are biting, some teams are not even coming.
0:12:42 > 0:12:45Secunder Kermani has been finding out how much of the setback
0:12:45 > 0:12:50the Paralympics could be for Rio's Olympic legacy.
0:12:50 > 0:12:53# Send her victorious.
0:12:53 > 0:13:01# Happy and glorious...
0:13:01 > 0:13:05Beaming smiles and flashing medals as Olympic Team GB
0:13:05 > 0:13:09arrived back home.
0:13:09 > 0:13:12While success in Rio helped overshadow criticism
0:13:12 > 0:13:15of how the Games were run, there are now concerns over the fate
0:13:15 > 0:13:18of the Paralympics.
0:13:18 > 0:13:21Problems like green swimming pools have led to money intended
0:13:21 > 0:13:25for the Paralympics being spent on the Olympics instead.
0:13:25 > 0:13:28The budget has been slashed, whilst dismal ticket sales
0:13:28 > 0:13:34could mean even more empty seats.
0:13:34 > 0:13:37It has almost become an Olympic tradition to question how ready
0:13:37 > 0:13:42a host nation is before the Games begin, but this does feel like it is
0:13:42 > 0:13:44on a completely different scale.
0:13:44 > 0:13:47Just the other week, the head of the International
0:13:47 > 0:13:50Paralympic Committee said that the Games had never faced
0:13:50 > 0:13:54circumstances like these in their entire history.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57The Paralympic cycling team is training here in Newport.
0:13:57 > 0:13:59They are focusing on winning medals, but the controversies
0:13:59 > 0:14:03are also on their mind.
0:14:03 > 0:14:05Is there disappointment about the ticket sales?
0:14:05 > 0:14:08Yes, it is really disappointing.
0:14:08 > 0:14:11The last time I read it was about 12%.
0:14:11 > 0:14:13Clearly that is a lot of empty seats.
0:14:13 > 0:14:16It would be nice if they were filled, not just from the athletes'
0:14:16 > 0:14:19perspective and the spectators' perspective and the atmosphere,
0:14:19 > 0:14:21but from the funding perspective and the exposure to the sport
0:14:21 > 0:14:26and the atmosphere in general.
0:14:26 > 0:14:27The Paralympic Games is parallel parity.
0:14:27 > 0:14:29It's meant to be running in line.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31We always come afterwards anyway because of the way
0:14:31 > 0:14:35the calendar works.
0:14:35 > 0:14:39The way they treat us is not definitely the same, is it?
0:14:39 > 0:14:43According to official documents, the Brazilian authorities had
0:14:43 > 0:14:48initially hoped to raise $170 million for the Paralympics.
0:14:48 > 0:14:52But we have been told they are nowhere near the amount they need.
0:14:52 > 0:14:56One reason is just 12% of tickets have been sold compared
0:14:56 > 0:15:01to 92% of Olympic tickets, although even then there
0:15:01 > 0:15:04were empty seats.
0:15:04 > 0:15:06There are also just 28 Paralympic sponsors compared
0:15:06 > 0:15:10to 60 Olympic ones.
0:15:10 > 0:15:14As a result, they have decided to make cuts to the workforce,
0:15:14 > 0:15:18cuts to transport services for athletes, and changes
0:15:18 > 0:15:21to the venue of some events, allowing the closure of one
0:15:21 > 0:15:25of the three Olympic Parks.
0:15:25 > 0:15:27London's 2012 Paralympic games were hailed as being
0:15:27 > 0:15:31the most successful ever.
0:15:31 > 0:15:34The former Paralympic athlete who helped deliver them
0:15:34 > 0:15:38says that legacy looks like it is in tatters now.
0:15:38 > 0:15:42More than a step backwards, this is a leap into Paralympic prehistory.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45The economic and political backdrop are certainly very different
0:15:45 > 0:15:50to when Rio won the bid.
0:15:50 > 0:15:53But this does not have so much to do with the economics, this has to do
0:15:53 > 0:15:56with cannibalisation of the Paralympic budget,
0:15:56 > 0:15:59to bail out and backfill Olympic elements that did not need to go
0:15:59 > 0:16:01wrong in the first place.
0:16:01 > 0:16:03There has been a disrespect, a misunderstanding,
0:16:03 > 0:16:07a lack of understanding for the Paralympic Games,
0:16:07 > 0:16:09for the potential, and the impact that could've made
0:16:09 > 0:16:12for the people of Brazil.
0:16:12 > 0:16:15A legacy for the 45 million disabled people in Brazil
0:16:15 > 0:16:17would really make a difference.
0:16:17 > 0:16:24Many still struggle with being accepted and feeling included.
0:16:24 > 0:16:27TRANSLATION: I was disappointed, but not surprised at the lack
0:16:27 > 0:16:29of funding, because historically disabled people have been left
0:16:29 > 0:16:31behind in this city.
0:16:31 > 0:16:34Having said that, there have been some improvements to public
0:16:34 > 0:16:37transport because of the Games.
0:16:37 > 0:16:40Despite everything, Rio is what Paralympic athletes have
0:16:40 > 0:16:42spent years training for, and all the athletes we spoke
0:16:42 > 0:16:48to were clear about the need to make the most of the Games.
0:16:48 > 0:16:50People will organise it or they will not organise it,
0:16:50 > 0:16:53they will sort it or they will not.
0:16:53 > 0:16:57We have to deal with it as it happens, whereas the performance
0:16:57 > 0:17:00of riding the bike as fast as we can, that is totally
0:17:00 > 0:17:03within our control, so we can make sure we do everything we need to do
0:17:03 > 0:17:06in training to get the best performances out of ourselves.
0:17:06 > 0:17:09Delays to travel grants being paid out by Brazilian Paralympic
0:17:09 > 0:17:12authorities had raised concerns some countries would not even be able
0:17:12 > 0:17:15to afford to come to Rio.
0:17:15 > 0:17:19It no longer looks like it will come to that, but many are seeing these
0:17:19 > 0:17:24Games as a missed opportunity.
0:17:25 > 0:17:28He is one of the most influential figures in the history of modern
0:17:28 > 0:17:30music, who has worked with some of the biggest artists
0:17:30 > 0:17:31of modern times.
0:17:31 > 0:17:33Quincy Jones' career spans six decades and
0:17:33 > 0:17:34incredible 28 Grammy Awards.
0:17:34 > 0:17:37Now, at the age of 83, some of his most famous work
0:17:37 > 0:17:40is being celebrated at the Proms here in London and he has been
0:17:40 > 0:17:42speaking to the BBC's Stephen Smith about his remarkable
0:17:42 > 0:17:49life and talent.
0:17:49 > 0:17:59# Land of hope and glory, mother of the free...
0:18:00 > 0:18:04Ah, the Last Night Of The Proms, or a young Conservative's
0:18:04 > 0:18:13idea of New Year's Eve, as one wag has called it.
0:18:21 > 0:18:31But look what they are doing to the Proms, Ma!
0:18:32 > 0:18:38They are dropping a bomb on them...
0:18:38 > 0:18:41with the jazz song book of Mr Quincy Jones.
0:18:41 > 0:18:42The man is sharp, look at him.
0:18:42 > 0:18:45Well, I had to make an effort.
0:18:45 > 0:18:46I do that every day, man.
0:18:46 > 0:18:47You're still outdressing me.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49I like the detail.
0:18:49 > 0:18:52I got this in China.
0:18:52 > 0:18:53I designed these three-quarter sleeves.
0:18:53 > 0:18:55I just like them.
0:18:55 > 0:18:57Every time I go, I get about 28 suits.
0:18:57 > 0:19:00I have got a bunch of them.
0:19:00 > 0:19:03Look out, they are behind us, you'd better put your foot down,
0:19:03 > 0:19:05we will lose them easy.
0:19:05 > 0:19:08I had such a good time in England in the '60s, man.
0:19:08 > 0:19:09Oh, God.
0:19:09 > 0:19:10My son was born here.
0:19:10 > 0:19:17I was scoring The Italian Job.
0:19:20 > 0:19:24I know you're asked all the time about Michael Jackson,
0:19:24 > 0:19:27so do you think, ultimately, that is a tragic story?
0:19:28 > 0:19:30It is a tragic story.
0:19:30 > 0:19:33I talk about it all the time.
0:19:33 > 0:19:40I said a lot of stupid things after he died.
0:19:40 > 0:19:43Anyway, you cannot make records like that without extreme love,
0:19:43 > 0:19:46trust and respect.
0:19:46 > 0:19:47# Cos this is thriller.
0:19:47 > 0:19:49# Thriller night.
0:19:49 > 0:19:52# Girl, I can thrill you more than any ghoul could ever dare try.
0:19:52 > 0:20:02# So let me hold you tight and share a killer thriller.
0:20:03 > 0:20:05There were stories of him bringing snakes and things...
0:20:05 > 0:20:08And chimpanzees.
0:20:08 > 0:20:10The whole menagerie.
0:20:10 > 0:20:11I did not like that.
0:20:11 > 0:20:15A snake used to wrap around the seat and my leg.
0:20:15 > 0:20:18I did not like that at all.
0:20:18 > 0:20:21It would crawl across the console.
0:20:21 > 0:20:22Muscles.
0:20:22 > 0:20:26I am not into snakes.
0:20:26 > 0:20:26So who won there?
0:20:26 > 0:20:28Did he...?
0:20:28 > 0:20:30He kept them there.
0:20:30 > 0:20:32One day we went out at Hayvenhurst.
0:20:32 > 0:20:34I said, where is Muscles?
0:20:34 > 0:20:37We went downstairs, and Muscles was in the parrot cage right
0:20:37 > 0:20:42there, and the parrot, they did not like each other.
0:20:42 > 0:20:44He had just eaten the parrot and his head
0:20:44 > 0:20:46got stuck in the cage.
0:20:46 > 0:20:51# Let's dance.
0:20:51 > 0:20:57# Put on your red shoes and dance the blues.
0:20:57 > 0:21:00# Let's dance.
0:21:00 > 0:21:02We have lost some great people this year.
0:21:02 > 0:21:06The last two years, George Martin, David Bowie.
0:21:06 > 0:21:07Oh, man, it just does not stop.
0:21:07 > 0:21:10Prince.
0:21:10 > 0:21:13Maurice White, it is frightening.
0:21:13 > 0:21:14All my friends, you know.
0:21:14 > 0:21:16I lost a lot of friends this year.
0:21:16 > 0:21:18Did you know Bowie?
0:21:18 > 0:21:21Can you tell us about your time with him?
0:21:22 > 0:21:23David Bowie?
0:21:23 > 0:21:24Yeah.
0:21:24 > 0:21:25Every year we would rent his yacht.
0:21:25 > 0:21:29He lived in Switzerland.
0:21:29 > 0:21:30Was he as good as everyone says?
0:21:31 > 0:21:32He was.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34The music can never be any more or less than
0:21:34 > 0:21:35you are as a human being.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38Bowie was a great human being.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41When it comes to the musicians the composer has known and worked
0:21:41 > 0:21:44with, it is hard keeping up with Jones.
0:21:44 > 0:21:48That goes for presidents, too.
0:21:48 > 0:21:50What about the presidential election?
0:21:50 > 0:21:51Do not even talk about it.
0:21:51 > 0:21:53We have one choice.
0:21:53 > 0:21:57I would leave the country if that sucker won.
0:21:57 > 0:21:59I assume you're referring to Mr Trump?
0:21:59 > 0:22:03Yeah, whatever.
0:22:03 > 0:22:06He is a very clever man.
0:22:06 > 0:22:09He knows how to say what they want to hear, uneducated rednecks.
0:22:09 > 0:22:12He knows how to talk to them.
0:22:12 > 0:22:13He's not like that at all.
0:22:13 > 0:22:15I used to hang out with him.
0:22:15 > 0:22:16Did you?
0:22:16 > 0:22:17Yeah.
0:22:17 > 0:22:18Were you friends back then?
0:22:18 > 0:22:21Yes, but he was not like that at all.
0:22:21 > 0:22:28He would fly on his helicopter with his name on the bottom of it.
0:22:28 > 0:22:32And what about how things are in your country now?
0:22:32 > 0:22:34We keep reading reports of these difficulties
0:22:34 > 0:22:36between the police and...?
0:22:36 > 0:22:37Black kids.
0:22:37 > 0:22:39It has been like that all the time.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42You should have seen the '30s, '40s and '50s.
0:22:42 > 0:22:43I came up in that.
0:22:43 > 0:22:45In the '30s in Chicago, during the Depression,
0:22:45 > 0:22:47I was a street rat.
0:22:47 > 0:22:51I wanted to be a gangster until I was 11.
0:22:51 > 0:22:55All I saw were dead bodies and tommy guns and piles of money in back
0:22:55 > 0:22:59rooms and all that stuff.
0:22:59 > 0:23:02This right there, I was on the wrong street, and they took a switchblade
0:23:02 > 0:23:05and nailed my hand to the fence.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08Right there, they put an ice pick on that.
0:23:08 > 0:23:12My daddy hit them on the head with a hammer.
0:23:12 > 0:23:19# I love you.
0:23:19 > 0:23:22And as for racism, Jones remembers playing in Las Vegas in 1964,
0:23:22 > 0:23:31backing Frank Sinatra as part of the Count Basie Orchestra.
0:23:31 > 0:23:34Belafonte, Lena Horne, they had to eat in the kitchen.
0:23:34 > 0:23:38They could not go in the casino.
0:23:38 > 0:23:41They slept in a black hotel across town.
0:23:41 > 0:23:44When we came there, Frank said, we're not going to have that.
0:23:44 > 0:23:47He said, he old man wants to see you over at the slot machines.
0:23:47 > 0:23:50Basie's old man was there, and 18 goombahs.
0:23:50 > 0:23:54He put one with each guy, like a bodyguard.
0:23:54 > 0:23:57He said, if anybody looks at them funny, break both of their legs.
0:23:57 > 0:23:58Frank was tough, man.
0:23:58 > 0:23:59He was tough.
0:23:59 > 0:24:01He stopped racism.
0:24:01 > 0:24:04So it was burgers with Sinatra on the Strip, but also fish
0:24:04 > 0:24:09with Picasso on the French Riviera.
0:24:09 > 0:24:13Didn't you live near Picasso for a while?
0:24:13 > 0:24:16Yes, in Cannes, right next door.
0:24:16 > 0:24:19We had lunch with him one year.
0:24:19 > 0:24:22We had sole meuniere together.
0:24:22 > 0:24:25After he finished, he took the bones and pushed them on the Croisette,
0:24:25 > 0:24:27we were eating on the Croisette.
0:24:27 > 0:24:29He pushed it out so the sun could parch the bones,
0:24:29 > 0:24:32then he took the colours out of his pocket, a blue,
0:24:32 > 0:24:34a yellow, and a red, and drew his designs on it.
0:24:34 > 0:24:38When the check came, he pushed that out there.
0:24:38 > 0:24:40Along all of the walls, all of his food was marked up.
0:24:40 > 0:24:50That is how he paid for his dinners.
0:24:53 > 0:24:57Unlike his fellow bandleader, the late, great James Brown,
0:24:57 > 0:25:00Jones says he would not dream of fining musicians for missing
0:25:00 > 0:25:02a beat and such misdemeanours.
0:25:02 > 0:25:06What is the secret of getting the best out of them?
0:25:06 > 0:25:09It is love, man.
0:25:09 > 0:25:12Come on, that is not necessary, to be that kind of disciplinarian.
0:25:13 > 0:25:14That is why I did not like that...
0:25:14 > 0:25:16What was that movie that won the Oscar?
0:25:16 > 0:25:18Whiplash.
0:25:18 > 0:25:20It is BS.
0:25:20 > 0:25:22No jazz musician would take that, throwing a chair at
0:25:22 > 0:25:24a drummer, get out of here.
0:25:24 > 0:25:32They'd kill him.
0:25:32 > 0:25:35Thank you very much, everybody, and thank you to Quincy Jones
0:25:35 > 0:25:39for the beautiful music.
0:25:39 > 0:25:40What an amazing man.
0:25:40 > 0:25:43Well, that is all from Reporters for this week.
0:25:43 > 0:25:52From me, Philippa Thomas, goodbye.