:00:46. > :00:54.Good morning. And coming up: Nick Clegg lost another Cabinet minister
:00:54. > :00:57.on Friday and his party's poll ratings are in single figures. One
:00:57. > :01:03.third of flights at Heathrow today are cancelled and that was before
:01:03. > :01:07.it even started snowing. Why? The Transport Secretary is here for a
:01:07. > :01:17.Sunday interview. With the government about to
:01:17. > :01:22.
:01:22. > :01:28.consult on gay marriage, they will With limited cash and growing
:01:28. > :01:33.demand, do you agree with the government's spending priorities?
:01:33. > :01:43.The Finance Secretary John Swinney tells us about his budget, its
:01:43. > :01:43.
:01:43. > :27:11.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1528 seconds
:27:11. > :27:17.My personal view is that the expression of commitment that is
:27:17. > :27:25.made in gay marriages is one that I would like the Church's to
:27:25. > :27:35.recognise. I'm not sure what the definition of a dinosaur is.
:27:35. > :27:36.
:27:36. > :27:42.are not with the times. I think there is an eternal provision here,
:27:42. > :27:47.which I would say as a believer. I think civil partnership, as
:27:47. > :27:55.constituted, I would prefer that to be extended, but that is another
:27:55. > :27:58.debate, but that provides the legal equality that is being sought.
:27:58. > :28:03.people believe that civil weddings and so will partnerships are pretty
:28:03. > :28:13.much the same thing - a marriage in all but name. We did make a
:28:13. > :28:15.
:28:15. > :28:20.difference? Yes, because marriages between a man and a woman. You say
:28:21. > :28:27.it is for the charges, but if this law comes in in the European
:28:27. > :28:31.legislation, the Church could be forced. I disagree, the legislation
:28:31. > :28:37.can and would make it very clear under the Human Rights Act that it
:28:37. > :28:43.would simply not be possible to bring a case against a church which
:28:43. > :28:50.had chosen not to allow a same-sex marriage to take place. We are not
:28:50. > :28:56.talking about forcing Church is to allow it same-sex marriages. Would
:28:56. > :28:59.you like to withdraw the word, dinosaur? It is a challenge for the
:28:59. > :29:03.churches, and they have to move with the times and it is something
:29:03. > :29:13.I hope they will seriously consider. Some of them are moving with the
:29:13. > :29:18.Times, and some are allowing gay marriages, isn't the Church of
:29:18. > :29:28.England - which is in some trouble in terms of its membership - known
:29:28. > :29:29.
:29:29. > :29:34.to be left behind? -- going to be left behind? In charge has its
:29:34. > :29:40.doctrine and its teaching, and that is the ground on which we stand.
:29:40. > :29:45.Most churches would take the same position on this matter because of
:29:46. > :29:53.the long-standing understanding of what managers. Most people, most
:29:53. > :29:57.opinion... Most people, historically, all is allowed that
:29:57. > :30:02.marriage was between a man and a woman. But the public consensus has
:30:02. > :30:07.changed. The polls indicate otherwise. People are not so
:30:07. > :30:11.concerned about this. If a same-sex couple want to be together, good
:30:11. > :30:18.luck to them. The question is whether that is described as
:30:18. > :30:27.marriage. There is one important point - the judges need to make a
:30:27. > :30:33.better case about what managers. -- the churches. We're talking about a
:30:33. > :30:43.civil marriage and not a religious marriage. We will have to leave it
:30:43. > :30:49.
:30:49. > :30:53.Welcome to the Sunday politics in Scotland, coming up: it is budget
:30:53. > :31:00.week on Wednesday. Holyrood will pass one of the toughest in its
:31:00. > :31:03.history. We will ask the Finance Secretary about his choices. With
:31:03. > :31:06.councils on the front line of the services you get and their main
:31:06. > :31:11.elections on the way, we will be looking at the key battlegrounds
:31:12. > :31:15.beginning with Glasgow. With the top of the referendum, not
:31:15. > :31:21.much attention has been paid to another matter of immediate
:31:21. > :31:27.importance, the budget for the financial year starting in April.
:31:27. > :31:34.It passed one hurdle on the day that the plans were set out for the
:31:35. > :31:38.referendum. On Wednesday it is brought back to Holyrood for the
:31:38. > :31:43.final vote. Perhaps with the loyalty of the backbenchers, there
:31:43. > :31:50.is no doubt of the outcome, but what about the outcome for public
:31:50. > :31:56.services? Our correspondent has been looking at the numbers.
:31:56. > :32:04.The time was when the numbers only went up, and the money was splashed
:32:04. > :32:10.around the public services. John Swinney cobbled together deals over
:32:10. > :32:14.four years. Then came the spending squeeze, swiftly followed by an SNP
:32:14. > :32:19.majority. John Swinney now has all the votes he needs but how is he
:32:19. > :32:27.using them? The squeeze is the tightest that
:32:27. > :32:34.has been. Spending is down by 7%. Next year and two years after that,
:32:34. > :32:41.spending will be down by more than 5%. Next year's Holyrood budget is
:32:41. > :32:50.being squeezed by 1.5%. The cumulative pain is building. Not
:32:50. > :32:57.everyone is feeling that pain equally. The budget facing MSPs on
:32:57. > :33:01.Wednesday, road spending gets a boost, as the Bill comes in for the
:33:01. > :33:09.4th crossing, universities have a good deal and students with their
:33:09. > :33:14.support Bill -- supports money going up. There is a squeeze on
:33:14. > :33:19.public sector pensions, as capital budget cuts which are hitting
:33:19. > :33:22.housing hard, and that has been a pressure point, and further
:33:22. > :33:29.education colleges, and this at a time when training for jobs is a
:33:29. > :33:37.priority. The councils are in line for one of the biggest cuts. On the
:33:37. > :33:40.tax side, shops selling alcohol and debacle will have to pay �30
:33:40. > :33:46.million next trying health tax next year. That is not popular with
:33:46. > :33:54.supermarkets or the Tories. There is a continuing pay freeze for most
:33:54. > :33:57.public sector workers. Also, a council tax freeze. This year sees
:33:57. > :34:03.the start of what is billed as a radical change in the way that
:34:03. > :34:07.money is spent in Scotland. John Swinney has earmarked �500 million
:34:08. > :34:13.in what is called preventative spending. The idea is to spend
:34:13. > :34:16.their early to prevent more expensive problems arising later.
:34:16. > :34:24.Supporting very young children, in the eye -- with the idea it will
:34:24. > :34:28.save money later on. John Swinney has all the votes he needs but he
:34:29. > :34:33.still hopes to win the support of opposition parties if only to
:34:33. > :34:40.provide political cover for the painful cuts involved. His
:34:40. > :34:47.opponents have highlighted housing and college spending, but they have
:34:47. > :34:53.declined to save wear more cuts should come. Since the Budget was
:34:53. > :34:58.published last September, John Swinney has �130 million in
:34:58. > :35:02.addition. He has some modest room for manoeuvre and the chance to
:35:02. > :35:08.hand out a few sweeties. Joining us from our Dundee studio
:35:08. > :35:15.is hour Finance Secretary, John Swinney. What are you still
:35:15. > :35:22.negotiating at this stage? Over the course of the last couple of weeks,
:35:22. > :35:31.I have spoken to the opposition parties and listened to their. In
:35:31. > :35:35.the Stage 1 debate, ten days ago. The main things are in relation to
:35:35. > :35:39.college funding, housing infrastructure and some of the
:35:39. > :35:43.sustainable travel budgets which are available as part of the
:35:43. > :35:47.government's settlement. I am looking carefully at those points
:35:47. > :35:53.and my interest is in creating a parliamentary consensus around the
:35:53. > :36:01.Budget proposals because I think it is in every one's interests in
:36:01. > :36:05.having steered priorities, delivering economic recovery.
:36:05. > :36:10.But you do not need their support, you will have the final say. One
:36:10. > :36:17.interpretation would be that you why negotiating because you need
:36:17. > :36:22.political cover. My motivation is to provide the broadest agreement.
:36:22. > :36:26.If you look at the budget I put forward as the finance minister in
:36:26. > :36:31.a minority government, they were supported on different occasions by
:36:31. > :36:34.different political parties because I was able to create some consensus.
:36:34. > :36:41.There is the question of what approach the opposition parties
:36:41. > :36:45.take. It is often a great interest in proposing new ways to spend
:36:45. > :36:50.money but not a lot of enthusiasm to save where the money will come
:36:50. > :36:54.from so I am working with the opposition parties, because we made
:36:54. > :36:58.clear when the majority SNP government was created, that we
:36:58. > :37:03.would still work to create consensus across the political
:37:03. > :37:08.spectrum. A key area for the opposition is the cut in spending
:37:09. > :37:13.to the colleges. You could make up that money. I knew indicating this
:37:13. > :37:18.morning that Devon-based -- they feel so strongly about that, do you
:37:18. > :37:21.accept that if we are basing our economic recovery on a well skilled
:37:21. > :37:25.workforce, cutting the college budget by that much does not make
:37:25. > :37:30.sense? The Government has put in place a
:37:30. > :37:35.range of support for young people trying to get into the labour
:37:35. > :37:40.market, we have a fund its 25,000 Modern apprenticeships for eight
:37:40. > :37:44.here of the spending review, and we have given a guarantee to every 16
:37:44. > :37:50.to 19-year-old that they would have access to training or educational
:37:50. > :37:57.opportunity if they are unable to secure a work of their own activity.
:37:57. > :38:01.Since my budget in September, I had put in �15 million to assist the
:38:01. > :38:08.college sector to undertake the reform the government believes is
:38:08. > :38:11.necessary. Last week, I allocated a further �5 million to support
:38:11. > :38:15.employability programmes through the college sector, so we are
:38:15. > :38:22.putting extra resources into the college sector but I continue to
:38:22. > :38:27.listen to the points put forward by the opposition. Should we expect
:38:27. > :38:32.more money going into the college sector? It is an area that is still
:38:32. > :38:38.under consideration and discussion. There is a material change in the
:38:39. > :38:42.government's budget has since it was announced in September with 50
:38:42. > :38:49.million in the college transformation fund and the extra
:38:49. > :38:54.money which we announced last week. I think they will be beneficial to
:38:54. > :38:59.delivering our objectives. If you look at what you can deliver,
:38:59. > :39:04.the living wage is obviously of critical importance for many local
:39:04. > :39:08.council workers. We know you want a living wage imposed across the
:39:08. > :39:11.councils and that is happening across government departments, but
:39:11. > :39:15.the local government committee has pointed out that you cannot require
:39:15. > :39:22.that to happen in councils in Scotland and the vast majority do
:39:22. > :39:25.not do that and say they cannot in the future. The living wages very
:39:25. > :39:30.important from the government's perspective because we think it is
:39:30. > :39:37.vital to put energy and effort into tackling the issue of low pay in
:39:37. > :39:40.public services. We have applied the living pay across the areas
:39:40. > :39:46.that we control but you are right in saying I cannot impose that
:39:46. > :39:56.across local government in Scotland. But there are a number of local
:39:56. > :39:57.
:39:57. > :40:01.authorities interested in taking forward this commitment. It is an
:40:01. > :40:05.issue that I have to leave fundamentally to the decisions of
:40:05. > :40:09.local authorities but I would encourage them to take that step.
:40:09. > :40:16.If we look at the bigger picture, you have suggested that Scotland
:40:16. > :40:21.would be better off, I economically, people would be better off,
:40:21. > :40:30.individually, in an independent Scotland. How much do you think, in
:40:30. > :40:37.cash terms? Scotland as a country, as we had access to our resources,
:40:38. > :40:42.would be placed at the ranking of six in the most prosperous nations.
:40:42. > :40:47.That would be a significant increase on our present position.
:40:47. > :40:51.The reason for that argument is to demonstrate that Scotland is a
:40:51. > :40:54.strong country ergonomically, we contribute more to the United
:40:54. > :40:58.Kingdom than we get back, and perhaps the fact we are seeing
:40:58. > :41:05.these messages put forward and deployed by the Scottish Government
:41:05. > :41:10.is perhaps why be in -- the opinion polls demonstrate support for
:41:10. > :41:13.Scottish independence is rising as the government puts forward a very
:41:13. > :41:20.positive agenda about the opportunities that exist for
:41:20. > :41:25.Scotland. One of the arguments at the heart of the debate is of
:41:25. > :41:28.delivering greater prosperity to the people of Scotland. I am
:41:28. > :41:33.interested in having access to the powers and responsibilities to
:41:33. > :41:38.create more opportunities for the people of Scotland, more employment
:41:38. > :41:44.opportunities, and making a country more successful.
:41:44. > :41:50.You were talking about people, the Sunday Times poll, which puts
:41:50. > :41:55.support for independence at the same level as support for the
:41:55. > :42:01.remaining in the Union. But what I am getting at, what will this mean
:42:01. > :42:10.for individuals, financially? Can you put a figure on it? Would it be
:42:10. > :42:14.�500 per year. The evidence suggests people are interested in
:42:14. > :42:20.the prospects and the opportunities that would arise from Scotland
:42:20. > :42:27.becoming an independent country. The example I cited in the letter
:42:27. > :42:33.the other night was the fact that if we had access to our resources,
:42:33. > :42:37.Scotland would be ripped -- ranked as the sixth most wealthy country.
:42:37. > :42:42.That is an indication in the level of growth and wealth in Scotland if
:42:42. > :42:46.we had the ability to put our own resources to the best effect in
:42:46. > :42:49.securing the best future for Scotland. That is in marked
:42:49. > :42:54.contrast to the economic performance people were accustomed
:42:54. > :42:58.to as part of the United Kingdom, where Scotland's economy has told
:42:58. > :43:08.the rest of the UK because we have not been able to use our resources
:43:08. > :43:09.
:43:09. > :43:14.to our advantage. Can I ask you about something else. Almost 60,000
:43:14. > :43:18.EU nationals living in Scotland will be able to vote in the
:43:18. > :43:24.referendum that 750,000 Scots living south of the border will not.
:43:25. > :43:29.Do you think that is reasonable? The franchise issue is important
:43:29. > :43:32.for the referendum, and the approach we have taken his two
:43:33. > :43:40.essentially manner of the franchise that elected the Scottish
:43:40. > :43:50.Parliament in May of not -- in May of last year. And the elections
:43:50. > :43:51.
:43:51. > :43:56.which established the Scottish Parliament in 1997 Fall --. Many of
:43:56. > :44:02.these individuals, I can think of my own constituents, army unit
:44:02. > :44:07.nationals who have lived here for 10 or 20 years. They are able to
:44:07. > :44:11.make a contribution to Scotland and this is their home. The one
:44:11. > :44:16.difference we would put forward in the franchise is that we would
:44:16. > :44:19.extend the franchise to 16 and 17- year-old to make sure that young
:44:19. > :44:22.people whose future is entwined with the issues around the
:44:22. > :44:28.referendum would have the opportunity to express an opinion.
:44:28. > :44:33.Thank you very much. Local councils deliver many of the
:44:33. > :44:37.key services we get. May's council elections will not be overshadowed
:44:37. > :44:44.by other polls on the same day. One of the biggest battles will be in
:44:44. > :44:54.Glasgow where Labour will be fighting to retain control. In the
:44:54. > :45:05.
:45:05. > :45:11.first of a series of films, here is 19190 - at the Battle of George
:45:11. > :45:17.Square. The need is that there has been to a revolution outside of the
:45:17. > :45:22.city chambers. Another battle has taken place this year. The SNP
:45:22. > :45:30.hopes that Glaswegian Botha's will bring about a peaceful revolution.
:45:30. > :45:34.Labour has a majority. 46 councillor's to the SNP's 20. It is
:45:34. > :45:41.quite a challenge from SNP to become the largest group and both
:45:41. > :45:47.parties will campaign passionately. We want to or for openness,
:45:47. > :45:55.transparency. We want to engage with people. We want them to know
:45:55. > :46:01.the we're listening. We have done more than any other UK Council to
:46:01. > :46:09.tackle unemployment. These are the kinds of issues which are important
:46:09. > :46:12.to local people. But with a Labour out of power at Holyrood and
:46:12. > :46:17.Westminster City Council has taken on an extra importance for the
:46:17. > :46:23.party. It has been a powerful critic of the Scottish Government
:46:23. > :46:31.in the past. For example on the council tax frieze were the cutting
:46:31. > :46:36.off class sizes. Glasgow is a very important to the Labour Party. They
:46:36. > :46:40.have controlled it on their own since the 1930s. As the largest
:46:40. > :46:45.city in the country it is an important place for the party who
:46:45. > :46:52.have traditionally done extremely well here. Losing Glasgow would be
:46:52. > :46:59.a major symbolic defeat for the party. Do you agree Scotland should
:46:59. > :47:07.be an independent country? But is the SNP thinking about more than
:47:07. > :47:15.just who can do best for Glasgow? A powerful Labour council would also
:47:15. > :47:19.be a powerful voice in the No campaign. Under mining labour in
:47:19. > :47:26.the City can only be good for their SNP in their build-up to the
:47:26. > :47:32.referendum. Like many battles of the true importance of this one may
:47:32. > :47:39.only become apparent in time. If the council falls to their SNP it
:47:39. > :47:43.could be a milestone in the current Scottish war of independence. I'll
:47:43. > :47:47.now joined by the professor of politics from Strathclyde
:47:47. > :47:55.University, John Curtice. What kind of messages will be coming out of
:47:55. > :48:02.these campaigns? How can you hold a national line, locally? It will be
:48:02. > :48:09.an intriguing campaign. Very true. But it will not just the national
:48:09. > :48:14.poll, there will be important local issues. For example, the trams
:48:14. > :48:21.fiasco in Edinburgh. That is another fascinating local issue.
:48:21. > :48:27.The Liberal Democrats may be on a hiding to nothing there. But beyond
:48:27. > :48:31.that, are what we are looking for our messages about the degree to
:48:31. > :48:39.which the SNP have retained the quite substantial levels of support
:48:39. > :48:42.they achieved 12 months ago. 45% in the polls. If they manage that we
:48:42. > :48:49.can certainly anticipate them making gains. These elections were
:48:49. > :48:54.last fought in 2007 when the SNP were only just ahead of Labour in
:48:54. > :49:02.the Holyrood poles and slightly behind them in the local elections.
:49:02. > :49:06.They have certainly got the increases that we saw in a Holyrood
:49:06. > :49:12.election. So we can anticipate them picking up some councils, but
:49:12. > :49:18.Glasgow would not be top of my list. Places like Dundee, Perth,
:49:18. > :49:23.Midlothian, these are easier targets. But because Glasgow is
:49:23. > :49:29.such a big prize everybody is focusing on it. It is relatively
:49:29. > :49:35.easy for their SNP to denied Labour a majority in Glasgow. Six seats it
:49:35. > :49:41.would do that. But on the other hand, having overall control of
:49:41. > :49:45.requires the SNP to have 18 extra seats. That is a very substantial
:49:45. > :49:55.requirement for them. Probably somewhat higher than the kind of
:49:55. > :50:03.swings we have been seen recently. A Sunday Times poll today says that
:50:03. > :50:10.support for independence is that 47%. This falls other polls where
:50:10. > :50:19.the SNP would get an incredibly good solid figures. What are the
:50:19. > :50:24.key points are to take from this? This is it rebuild Paul to simply
:50:24. > :50:30.ask the question, do you agree Scotland become -- should become an
:50:30. > :50:34.independent country? So it is quite clear that if you are asked the
:50:34. > :50:40.Alex Salmond question on a Survey it is getting higher levels of
:50:40. > :50:46.support and Surveys which do not ask that question. But this poll
:50:46. > :50:50.also provided another question involving devolution a maximum. So
:50:50. > :50:56.often with these things the truth lies in the nature of the question
:50:56. > :51:00.being asked. But the question is important in the context of this
:51:00. > :51:07.Survey. And clearly it is resulting in higher levels of support for
:51:07. > :51:17.independence. But the key will be it the question and answers at the
:51:17. > :51:20.
:51:20. > :51:23.end of the Three's your long referendum campaign. -- three years.
:51:23. > :51:27.The Scottish Government is launching a campaign to encourage
:51:27. > :51:32.women to cut down on their drinking. It is an attempt to change
:51:32. > :51:39.attitudes and as part of the campaign a new phone app will
:51:39. > :51:49.demonstrate how drinking speeds up the ageing process. It is hoped
:51:49. > :51:52.
:51:52. > :51:57.that the up well short women into Tenants with a history of anti-
:51:57. > :52:04.social behaviour could lose their housing rates. Changes were made to
:52:04. > :52:12.how social housing is managed in Scotland. Law abiding tenants's
:52:12. > :52:17.lives are often blighted by In the 5th round of the Scottish
:52:17. > :52:23.Cup Rangers face Dundee United. The Dundee United manager reckons that
:52:23. > :52:33.Rangers are still a difficult team to overcome despite losing their
:52:33. > :52:34.
:52:34. > :52:41.And now the weather. A better day for the second half of the weekend.
:52:41. > :52:46.The best of the sunshine will be across Aberdeenshire and Fife. More
:52:46. > :52:52.cloud across the West and showers will become more persistent.
:52:52. > :53:02.Feeling less colder than yesterday with lighter winds. Chillier in the
:53:02. > :53:05.
:53:05. > :53:15.Back to Isabel. Thank you. It looks like the main focus at Holyrood
:53:15. > :53:22.this week will be on the money. To help me look ahead to the week I am
:53:22. > :53:27.joined by two economic correspondents. Good morning to you
:53:27. > :53:37.both. Should we expect more money to go to colleges, having held the
:53:37. > :53:40.interview with John Swinney? It was very hard to tell full stops he is
:53:40. > :53:49.good at informing you at progress that has been made but leafing out
:53:49. > :53:54.the possibility of other things. There is a significant
:53:54. > :53:59.restructuring on this new regional model. Given that he has a bit more
:53:59. > :54:03.room for manoeuvre in the Budget next year I just wonder if he might
:54:03. > :54:06.want to defuse some of that. It is easy to make the link between
:54:06. > :54:15.skills that are learned at college and the need for young people to
:54:15. > :54:23.find work and boost the economy. Where should he be looking, if he's
:54:23. > :54:29.going to review anything? Has a bad idea is to shift money from revenue
:54:29. > :54:35.into capital full stock -- has Bhagat idea. He wants his capital
:54:35. > :54:39.spend up by 25%. That is to give the economy a boost and that is
:54:39. > :54:49.where he is focusing. The long-term view that if he puts more money
:54:49. > :54:50.
:54:50. > :55:00.into capital spend it then the shovels a world charm the earth.
:55:00. > :55:05.That causes pain of for frontline services. Underlying his aims are
:55:05. > :55:08.an attempt to save money, do things efficiently. Now I nor all
:55:08. > :55:16.politicians say that and it is part of the game but remember that this
:55:16. > :55:21.is his 5th of budget. He has gotten far down the line. I worked in
:55:21. > :55:28.higher education for 25 years. There is a degree of duplication in
:55:28. > :55:34.the provision of courses in further education. He is trying to
:55:34. > :55:38.streamline and that. The money that is he is saving, he has done very
:55:38. > :55:48.well to keep spending going in universities and making sure that
:55:48. > :55:48.
:55:48. > :55:52.we still don't have tuition fees, and that is very important. In the
:55:53. > :56:02.bigger picture, do you think river carries the can for the cuts will
:56:03. > :56:03.
:56:03. > :56:08.lose? That has always been the story of politics. If you go down
:56:08. > :56:14.that road, if you are seen to be imposing some kind of cuts, you
:56:14. > :56:18.will pay a price at the polls. George is correct to say that they
:56:18. > :56:25.are attempting to protect a capital budget that has been forcibly
:56:25. > :56:31.shrunk by the London government. But they are doing and that by
:56:31. > :56:41.taking out some of the spending from the kind of services that
:56:41. > :56:41.
:56:41. > :56:45.people notice. There is a new Forth crossing going up. They feel --
:56:45. > :56:54.people know a service that they depend on and feel it when it is
:56:54. > :57:03.being trimmed. Bankers bonuses. We are apoplectic this time every year.
:57:03. > :57:08.What must happen to change this? is an industry which Elms super
:57:08. > :57:13.profits and politicians can no more nor all the light but in a few
:57:13. > :57:18.years the bonuses will be even higher. -- moan all they like. I
:57:18. > :57:22.agree with the vast majority of the general public that these bonuses
:57:22. > :57:28.are not fit for purpose and the banks take undue risks which we
:57:28. > :57:35.have just lived through the catastrophe of. So let's use the
:57:35. > :57:38.tax net to claw the money back. Would you like to see the SNP
:57:38. > :57:46.government be a little more vocal about taxing bonuses are getting
:57:46. > :57:56.rid of them altogether? The SNP have always had a good social
:57:56. > :58:00.democratic position. That is the way to go. We keep on hearing that
:58:00. > :58:08.something must happen but it is only tinkering around the edges.
:58:08. > :58:14.What must really be done? It is an interesting dynamic. The banks are
:58:14. > :58:19.on the back foot. Public opinion is a very strongly against the kind of
:58:19. > :58:28.packages that people are now getting in banking. Even 20 years a
:58:28. > :58:31.go this was never on the horizon. It is a very modern phenomenon. It
:58:31. > :58:39.is just to whether the politicians, at Westminster in the first
:58:39. > :58:47.instance - at least in the current context quiz -- weather politicians