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:00:09. > :00:11.Tonight: The Bank of England steps into the debate over currency in an

:00:12. > :00:13.independent Scotland. Governor Mark Carney reveals his

:00:14. > :00:17.bank IS making plans in the event of a referendum yes vote, and says

:00:18. > :00:18.stability will continue, whatever happens.

:00:19. > :00:30.day, the First Minister, Alex Salmond, is here to answer

:00:31. > :00:32.Also on the programme, Scotland's jobless

:00:33. > :00:35.figure is in freefall, as the number of people in work reaches a record

:00:36. > :00:37.high. Who's right on disability welfare?

:00:38. > :00:40.The SNP say a hundred thousand will lose benefits under UK-wide reform,

:00:41. > :00:42.but Westminster says the system needed to change.

:00:43. > :00:49.Locals say they're horrified after a triple theft at one of Orkney's most

:00:50. > :00:52.famous and sacred landmarks. And the referees union say they hope

:00:53. > :01:15.to avoid a strike in a dispute over pay.

:01:16. > :01:18.Good Evening. The Governor of the Bank England has confirmed that it

:01:19. > :01:21.does have a contingency plan in the event of a yes vote in the

:01:22. > :01:24.referendum. Mark Carney refused to reveal what the plans are but said

:01:25. > :01:27.the Bank would continue to maintain stability in the banking system

:01:28. > :01:30.whatever the result. I'll be speaking to the First Minister Alex

:01:31. > :01:32.Salmond about that in a moment, but first, here's our Economics

:01:33. > :02:34.It is the job of the Bank of England to make us feel assured. We do have

:02:35. > :02:40.contingency plans. The announcement confirmed what most people expected

:02:41. > :02:51.that the bank is making contingency plans in case that is a yes vote in

:02:52. > :02:58.September. What the bank of England is trying to do is make sure that

:02:59. > :03:05.nobody panics and either side of the border if there is a yes foot in

:03:06. > :03:08.September. They are worried people might withdraw their money if there

:03:09. > :03:21.is a yes vote while the ghost sessions take place. We know that a

:03:22. > :03:26.currency union will not happen and it will not be agreed by the rest of

:03:27. > :03:29.the United Kingdom let alone work for Scotland. Scotland would have

:03:30. > :03:34.less economic freedom and less economic sovereignty and less

:03:35. > :03:42.ability to affect our own destiny than we have at the moment. For a

:03:43. > :03:46.period after the referendum we set out for an 18 month period. In that

:03:47. > :03:58.period Scotland will remain part of the United Kingdom and the Bank of

:03:59. > :04:08.England will have the responsibility for that sovereignty. The

:04:09. > :04:14.announcement from the Bank of England today strikes a different

:04:15. > :04:23.tone to what the government in the UK have been saying. Is it not a bit

:04:24. > :04:31.strange that the governor of the Bank of England I'm making

:04:32. > :04:36.contingency plans and you are not? What he has said today is very

:04:37. > :04:42.helpful and shows he is hoping to ensure financial stability and what

:04:43. > :04:48.a contrast to the views of the Westminster parties. He has also yet

:04:49. > :04:52.again corrected idea that he was against a currency union. He will

:04:53. > :04:59.implement what ever disagreed. We should also look at what is causing

:05:00. > :05:04.the instability which is the adamant refusal of the Westminster parties

:05:05. > :05:09.to countenance a currency union which is the preferred option of

:05:10. > :05:17.most of the Scottish people. To be fair, that is your opinion. A survey

:05:18. > :05:21.yesterday showed it was the vast majority of Scottish people believe

:05:22. > :05:36.that is what will happen following a yes vote. Well done to Mark Carney

:05:37. > :05:40.for doing this. This evening for major financial institutions have

:05:41. > :05:52.told the BBC that they fear what they call deposit from Scottish

:05:53. > :05:58.banks in the aftermath of yes vote. Why is Mark Carney having to steady

:05:59. > :06:07.the horses when you are not? He is doing what he should do in his job.

:06:08. > :06:17.The fear of deposit flight is caused by financial rescue where a currency

:06:18. > :06:21.other than sterling would be used. Where I think it would be useful for

:06:22. > :06:26.us to clarify and for the debate to be clarified is that the Westminster

:06:27. > :06:31.parties are not stop Scotland using the pound. That is our currency.

:06:32. > :06:38.They are trying to stop us having access to the Bank of England. It is

:06:39. > :06:45.a shared asset and the nationalised in 1946 which holds about 27% of the

:06:46. > :06:50.vast debts. That is a financial asset and they cannot claim all of

:06:51. > :06:56.it without taking responsibility for the financial liability of the debt

:06:57. > :07:00.and is that message gets across, not just the responsibility of

:07:01. > :07:10.incredible nature of the Westminster party and their incredible position

:07:11. > :07:14.on the matter. The idea that they would damage the economy of England

:07:15. > :07:20.and take on all of the national debt by refusing to give us access to the

:07:21. > :07:22.assets is an incredible position. That is a position which is

:07:23. > :07:28.irresponsible and they should stop now. Let us assume that the other

:07:29. > :07:35.parties are bluffing and that is monetary union. The Bank of England

:07:36. > :07:45.with those assets will be running the Scottish economy. That is not

:07:46. > :07:51.independence. The Bank of England is independent of government policy. It

:07:52. > :07:58.sets interest rates which the government does not do. We have

:07:59. > :08:03.published plans to increase spending by 3% rather than the Westminster

:08:04. > :08:09.plans which are 1%. That is the sort of policy that will help us save and

:08:10. > :08:13.invest in our health service. It will look after the majority but not

:08:14. > :08:18.the people who live in Scotland. It will determine interest rates for

:08:19. > :08:26.them and not for us. Why should it if we are independent? That is the

:08:27. > :08:34.financial policy setting interest rates. We will control 100% of our

:08:35. > :08:39.fiscal policy. That will govern our spending as opposed to having it

:08:40. > :08:46.dictated to us as it is at the current time by Westminster. The

:08:47. > :08:48.difference between the Scottish able to able to decide to invest in a

:08:49. > :08:56.National Health Service or alternatively be at the mercy of the

:08:57. > :09:11.privatisation agenda with a cap backs -- cutbacks which I propose.

:09:12. > :09:23.-- which are proposed. Nicola Sturgeon said that many people are

:09:24. > :09:35.in danger of losing their benefits. Is that not Project Fear? Spending

:09:36. > :09:42.on the health service in England has been going up. You know that as well

:09:43. > :09:48.as I do. The Labour Party in England say that is a huge privatisation

:09:49. > :09:55.agenda. You always agree with the Labour Party? No, but we can see the

:09:56. > :09:58.disintegration and fragmentation that has happened which is designed

:09:59. > :10:09.to reduce spending on the health service. For every ?10 spent in

:10:10. > :10:13.England, Scotland gets ?1. If you reduce the health service in

:10:14. > :10:19.England, there is a knock on consequence in Scotland. We say to

:10:20. > :10:22.reinforce that, there should be constitutional protection which

:10:23. > :10:28.would build that into the new constitution. The United Kingdom

:10:29. > :10:31.does not have a written constitution. We want a written

:10:32. > :10:37.constitution that gives a constitutional guarantee for the

:10:38. > :10:56.health service on the night Bevan principle. --Nye Bevan. You have

:10:57. > :11:03.been proposing more money in people 's pockets. Would it not have been

:11:04. > :11:08.more honest to say that independence is risky and will be a lot of

:11:09. > :11:13.negotiation. It might not be a straightforward proposal. It might

:11:14. > :11:19.even cost a bit more and taxes might have to go up in the short-term.

:11:20. > :11:25.Would that not have been more honest to say, if independence was that

:11:26. > :11:30.important? A week or two ago I made a speech saying that we would not

:11:31. > :11:33.promise that would be free taps with whiskey, oil and water in every

:11:34. > :11:36.Scottish household. We would not promise that would be free taps with

:11:37. > :11:38.whiskey, oil and water in every Scottish household. We're saying

:11:39. > :11:41.that by taking charge of our financial destiny, over a period of

:11:42. > :11:45.time working together by investing in the right things, we can marshal

:11:46. > :11:49.resources in this country with the fantastic people assets in this

:11:50. > :11:55.country and build a more prosperous and more just society. We do not say

:11:56. > :11:59.that will happen overnight but you are far more likely to end up of the

:12:00. > :12:02.public health service free at the point of need, available for older

:12:03. > :12:10.people, if that is what you want to do. But that is not under threat

:12:11. > :12:15.anywhere. I disagree. I think the privatisation agenda site of the

:12:16. > :12:22.border is destroying the health service. The health service here

:12:23. > :12:28.sends people to private hospitals. Our objective is not to reduce

:12:29. > :12:35.expenditure on the public health service and we feel we stay in the

:12:36. > :12:39.present system, matters south of the border will affect Scotland. We want

:12:40. > :12:46.to ensure that our public health service remains free at the point of

:12:47. > :12:57.provision as is -- and is guaranteed. You have had one major

:12:58. > :13:04.debate with Alistair Darling. The consensus was that she hadn't maybe

:13:05. > :13:09.not performed as well as you could perform. Do you feel you did as well

:13:10. > :13:14.as you could have? I adopted a tone which I hope is more conversational

:13:15. > :13:19.in terms of expanding issues and I would like to have more time as we

:13:20. > :13:22.have had tonight to explain why we cannot be stopped from using our

:13:23. > :13:28.currency and the various options that were laid out in the White

:13:29. > :13:30.Paper. We will have lots more opportunities and you can be

:13:31. > :13:34.absolutely certain that the yes campaign in general and myself in

:13:35. > :13:41.particular are up for it. And on tomorrow night's programme

:13:42. > :13:44.we'll hear from the other side of the debate - Alistair Darling will

:13:45. > :13:47.be here in the studio for a live interview. And if you'd like more on

:13:48. > :13:50.the referendum, then tune in to Radio Scotland on medium wave or

:13:51. > :13:53.digital at 11 for Referendum Tonight, or head online to

:13:54. > :13:54.bbc.co.uk/scotlanddecides. You're watching Reporting Scotland

:13:55. > :14:06.from the BBC. Still to come on In sport: Could Scotland's football

:14:07. > :14:18.refs be about to strike again. And Scotland's silver track stars are

:14:19. > :14:21.into the semis of the European Scotland has reached a record high.

:14:22. > :14:45.The latest official figures show employment is up by over 60,000 in

:14:46. > :14:48.the year and unemployment has fallen too. Here's our business

:14:49. > :14:50.correspondent, David Henderson. At this Jobcentre in Glasgow this

:14:51. > :15:02.morning staff were helping match job-seekers

:15:03. > :15:02.with vacancies. in new call centre jobs and in

:15:03. > :15:14.hotels and restaurants. In recent months the economy has shown signs

:15:15. > :15:33.of recovery so employers have been taking on new staff, and here, they

:15:34. > :15:36.have noticed a rise in the number of available. The number of people in

:15:37. > :15:41.Scotland who are out of work and looking for a job has fallen this

:15:42. > :15:45.month, to 176,000 and, at the same time the workforce has risen again

:15:46. > :15:48.by 9000 to a record high. So the Scottish unemployment rate is now

:15:49. > :15:51.6.4%, the same as for the UK. Staff at the Jobcentre have noticed that

:15:52. > :15:54.some employers seem more confident During

:15:55. > :16:00.the recession part-time and temporary vacancies increased but

:16:01. > :16:02.certainly we are seeing that trend turn around and more and more

:16:03. > :16:29.vacancies coming on are permanent and full-time. There are still

:16:30. > :16:32.part-time vacancies, it suits a lot people. The jobs market is fluid,

:16:33. > :16:38.like this when shop in Barrhead. Peter Rosenthal is one of a record

:16:39. > :16:41.number of self-employed Scottish people, the tops up his work here

:16:42. > :16:43.with wine-tasting classes and consultancy work. Coming from a

:16:44. > :16:46.background where I had a job that gave me an income every single

:16:47. > :16:49.month, the mortgage would be paid, you knew that, that transition to

:16:50. > :16:52.being in a work position where if the work is not covered,you don't

:16:53. > :16:55.get paid, the mortgage does not get paid. Some of the new jobs we have

:16:56. > :16:59.seen may be seasonal because of the Commonwealth Games but long-term

:17:00. > :17:03.the outlook is good. More than 100,000 people in Scotland

:17:04. > :17:06.will lose disability benefits under UK-wide welfare changes, according

:17:07. > :17:23.to new analysis by the Scottish Government. The deputy First

:17:24. > :17:25.Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, says the cuts are "simply wrong". But UK

:17:26. > :17:28.ministers say the old system needed reform. Here's our political

:17:29. > :17:50.correspondent, Glenn Campbell. as a blind person, he also suffers

:17:51. > :17:53.from heart disease, diabetes and

:17:54. > :17:57.depression. Most people feel vulnerable and the

:17:58. > :18:00.disabled person and we feel bad that we are being

:18:01. > :18:02.branded as, you know, scroungers or a burden to society. And that is

:18:03. > :18:05.what it feels like. That you have now become a burden to society

:18:06. > :18:09.because we are in a recession. It is no fault of disabled people. He is

:18:10. > :18:12.one of 190,000 people who receive disability living allowance at the

:18:13. > :18:14.moment. By 2018 the Scottish Government estimates that more than

:18:15. > :18:17.half of them will lose at least The benefits are

:18:18. > :18:23.being phased out and replaced by the personal independence payment. The

:18:24. > :18:25.cuts that are being implemented are hitting very hard some of the most

:18:26. > :18:31.vulnerable disabled people, they have been disproportionately hit by

:18:32. > :18:32.these cuts. don't seem to care much about the

:18:33. > :18:38.impact of these cuts. But visiting an ice cream shop in Dundee, the

:18:39. > :18:44.Scottish Secretary claimed SNP ministers were not guaranteeing a

:18:45. > :18:46.sweeter deal to those on benefits. The Scottish Government see that

:18:47. > :18:50.there is a need for welfare reform. What they never do is tell us how

:18:51. > :18:54.that should be done. And unless and until they come forward with

:18:55. > :18:56.proposals, they are frankly criticising and it looks like cheap

:18:57. > :19:00.exploitation of people's legitimate fear. The

:19:01. > :19:02.Scottish Government argue that a vote for independence would help us

:19:03. > :19:05.stop the shift away from the disability living allowance and the

:19:06. > :19:20.zany fear and wealthier system but those who want Scotland to stay

:19:21. > :19:24.within the union say that social protection is better organised

:19:25. > :19:27.across the UK, drawing on the tax contributions from a much larger

:19:28. > :19:43.economy. The were at Ibrox after a

:19:44. > :20:19.46-year-old man was too loosely injured in attack.

:20:20. > :20:21.--The police were called after a 46-year-old man was

:20:22. > :20:41.Tickets for the 50th birthday party of the Forth Road Bridge will go on

:20:42. > :20:45.general sale on Friday. There will be a torchlight procession on

:20:46. > :20:46.September the 13th. There will be bands playing and a firework

:20:47. > :20:54.display. Thieves have caused outrage

:20:55. > :20:56.in Orkney, after stealing artefacts Three wooden plaques representing

:20:57. > :21:00.the Stations of the Cross have been removed from the former Nissen hut -

:21:01. > :21:03.which was converted into a place of worship by prisoners

:21:04. > :21:18.of war during the Second World War. This modest building was given a

:21:19. > :21:28.special blessing earlier in the year. Today it was not mass but

:21:29. > :21:31.fingerprints that were being taken. It was hit by vandals back in June.

:21:32. > :21:34.Three wooden plaques representing the Stations of the Cross have been

:21:35. > :21:37.removed from the former Nissen hut - which was converted into a place

:21:38. > :21:40.of worship by prisoners of war, during the Second World War.

:21:41. > :21:47.They portray incidents in Christ's journey to the cross.

:21:48. > :21:49.The wartime chapel is the most popular tourist attraction

:21:50. > :21:59.in Orkney with more than 100,000 visitors a year.

:22:00. > :22:08.The 14 plaques were a gift from the chapel's creator Domenico

:22:09. > :22:17.Police have appealed to the public for help in tracing the artefacts.

:22:18. > :22:28.Additional security would come at a cost and not just a monetary one. It

:22:29. > :22:34.would change the atmosphere entirely in here. It is a place which is open

:22:35. > :22:43.for the public to admire and it would give a different atmosphere

:22:44. > :22:47.altogether. Securing the chapel while maintaining its simplicity is

:22:48. > :23:04.a major challenge. Former top referee Stuart Dougal

:23:05. > :23:06.says current officials should be paid more for taking charge

:23:07. > :23:09.of Championship matches involving Rangers, Hearts and Hibs to avoid

:23:10. > :23:14.the threat of strike action. Refs are disgruntled that these

:23:15. > :23:17.high profile matches pay ?645 Four years ago they went

:23:18. > :23:20.on strike when their integrity was called into question - this time

:23:21. > :23:37.their grievance is over wages. Referees taking charge of

:23:38. > :23:47.championship matches receive a different amount to those taking

:23:48. > :23:52.charge of other games. The spoils for the victors will probably be

:23:53. > :23:59.greater because it will be a passport into the Premier League. We

:24:00. > :24:13.should get our Premier League wage for doing Premier League matches.

:24:14. > :24:19.Will the referees strike? I do not think that will happen but we need

:24:20. > :24:26.to sit down together. The chairman of the Scottish cup Max senior

:24:27. > :25:08.Football Referees Association issued this statement. --Scottish Senior

:25:09. > :25:32.Football Referees Association. We'll know within 24 hours if Celtic

:25:33. > :25:35.are to remain in the Champions League qualifiers. Legia Warsaw's

:25:36. > :25:36.appeal against Celtic's reinstatement in the competition at

:25:37. > :25:39.the Polish club's expense was heard this morning. Legia were punished

:25:40. > :25:42.for bringing on a substitute, who was ineligible, in the second leg of

:25:43. > :25:45.their tie against the Scottish champions.

:25:46. > :25:46.Celtic begin the defence of their premiership title tonight away to St

:25:47. > :25:49.Johnstone. There's coverage of that and tonight's five other premiership

:25:50. > :25:51.matches on BBC Radio Scotland 810 medium wave on line and on digital.

:25:52. > :25:55.The show is on air now. Hibernian's owner Sir Tom Farmer has

:25:56. > :25:57.turned down a take-ever bid came from a consortium headed

:25:58. > :26:01.by financial adviser David Low. Hibs say accepting

:26:02. > :26:03.the bid was not was not Scotland's two track silver medal

:26:04. > :26:07.winners from Glasgow 2014 are through to the semi finals

:26:08. > :26:09.of the European championships. Lynsey Sharp won her eight hundred

:26:10. > :26:12.meters heat in Zurich comfortably. through to the semi finals

:26:13. > :26:14.of the European championships. Eilidh Child was also first

:26:15. > :26:18.in her 400 metres hurdles heat. Andy Murray's through to the third

:26:19. > :26:22.round of the Cinncinatti Masters tennis.

:26:23. > :26:23.Murray beating the world number 37, Joaw Sousa of Portugal, in straight

:26:24. > :26:39.sets this afternoon, six-three, There will still be a breeze

:26:40. > :26:52.tomorrow. If you escaped today with a and bright conditions. , those

:26:53. > :26:56.showers could well be heavy and there will be brighter skies. You

:26:57. > :27:00.will be unlucky if you catch a heavy shower. It will be around 20 degrees

:27:01. > :27:04.in the sunshine and the best of the sun is likely around the coastline

:27:05. > :27:09.but up towards the far north it will be cloudy with showers and a similar

:27:10. > :27:14.story for the Northern Isles that there will be brighter glances at

:27:15. > :27:21.times. Those heavy showers continue to work their way down to England so

:27:22. > :27:29.the risk of a heavy downpour or two. Friday starts off reasonably dry and

:27:30. > :27:35.as we head towards the afternoon some decent dry and bright and sunny

:27:36. > :27:39.spells around. This ridge of high pressure is the reason. As we head

:27:40. > :27:45.towards the weekend, low-pressure arrives and the weather will return

:27:46. > :27:50.in a decidedly unsettled fashion. Saturday will be a breezy day with

:27:51. > :27:55.rain across Western and southwestern parts of the country. The further

:27:56. > :28:01.east you are the dryer it will be but those unsettled conditions will

:28:02. > :28:08.remain through till Sunday. The Governor of the Bank of England,

:28:09. > :28:15.Mark Carney, said he has a contingency plan for a yes vote.

:28:16. > :28:19.Alex Salmond on this programme welcomed this.

:28:20. > :28:22.And that's Reporting Scotland. You can watch tonight's interview with

:28:23. > :28:24.the First Minister on our website - and on tomorrow night's programme