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:00:00. > :00:00.other news on the BBC News Channel, and on our website, but that is all

:00:00. > :00:00.for now. It is What would be the future

:00:00. > :00:10.of the Trident nuclear fleet under A new study says moving

:00:11. > :00:15.the submarines out of Scotland would And as the independence debate

:00:16. > :00:21.continues to gather momentum, Alistair Darling, the leader

:00:22. > :00:23.of the Better Together campaign, There is to be an inquiry into

:00:24. > :00:30.the controversial decision to allow No Tiger at the Ryder Cup

:00:31. > :00:41.as he rules himself out with a back injury but preparations

:00:42. > :00:45.at Gleneagles are well underway. We hear about the role

:00:46. > :00:49.an unknown Caithness detective played in helping to solve the

:00:50. > :01:05.Victorian Jack The Ripper murders. It is possible for

:01:06. > :01:09.the UK to keep its nuclear weapons by moving them out of Scotland

:01:10. > :01:11.in the event of independence, A study for

:01:12. > :01:17.the respected think tank, the Royal United Services Institute, says

:01:18. > :01:21.relocating Trident submarines and missiles to England is financially

:01:22. > :01:24.and technically feasible. In a moment we'll have

:01:25. > :01:29.a extended live interview with the chairman of Better Together,

:01:30. > :01:31.Alistair Darling, about that and But first here's our political

:01:32. > :01:35.correspondent, Glenn Campbell, on the implications for Trident

:01:36. > :01:52.if Scotland votes for independence. The UK's for nuclear armed

:01:53. > :01:58.submarines are based at Faslane naval base. The missiles and

:01:59. > :02:02.warheads are stored nearby. Today's report suggests it would be possible

:02:03. > :02:18.overtime to relocate the weapon system to England if there is a vote

:02:19. > :02:26.in favour of independence. You would have two build a new facility. That

:02:27. > :02:32.is where the problem lies. Experts say it would take longer to relocate

:02:33. > :02:36.their weapons to England than the fourth year timescale set out by the

:02:37. > :02:39.Scottish Government. They also questioned suggestions from UK

:02:40. > :03:03.ministers that the costs of relocation would be expensive.

:03:04. > :03:07.costs are not as high as people anticipated. The notion that the SNP

:03:08. > :03:14.are putting about that if you get rid of Trident that also gets rid of

:03:15. > :03:21.it across the UK has been demolished. We want to get rid of

:03:22. > :03:26.Trident within the first term of an independent Scottish Parliament. It

:03:27. > :03:31.has got to be done safely. It has to be done safely, but speed is also of

:03:32. > :03:37.the essence. Big UK Government insists it has no plans to move

:03:38. > :03:44.Trident out of Scotland, but in the faint of independence it may be

:03:45. > :03:48.required to do so. It was the intervention of the Bank

:03:49. > :03:56.of England that dominated First Minister's Questions. Alex Salmond

:03:57. > :03:59.told MSP is it was the prounion parties at Westminster who had

:04:00. > :04:06.caused financial uncertainty by ruling out a single currency. The

:04:07. > :04:09.United Kingdom and Westminster parties have a vested interest in

:04:10. > :04:28.causing as much uncertainty as they can. The 10th two generates

:04:29. > :04:35.instability will feel. -- this attempt to create instability will

:04:36. > :04:41.not succeed. The First Minister has two understand he is prospectus of

:04:42. > :04:47.independence without knowing what the currency is is creating

:04:48. > :04:53.uncertainty. Only the First Minister would blame those who point that out

:04:54. > :05:03.to him as being the cause of the uncertainty. I enjoyed by Alistair

:05:04. > :05:11.Darling. Why are you treating your share of economic uncertainty? Why

:05:12. > :05:22.are you refusing to contemplate currency union? Currency union with

:05:23. > :05:26.be bad for Scotland. It would be bad for the rest of the UK. They would

:05:27. > :05:32.have to underwrite the banking system of Scotland. But if you are

:05:33. > :05:35.talking about uncertainty surely you except they would be less

:05:36. > :05:39.uncertainty if you add the other parties said they did not like the

:05:40. > :05:44.idea of independence, but afterwards if they had to find the best

:05:45. > :05:48.solution, that's making it. This is not the best solution. The best

:05:49. > :05:53.solution for currency is what we have at the moment. A UK pounds,

:05:54. > :05:56.backed by the Bank of England, behind which stands the UK

:05:57. > :06:02.Government. That is what nationalists want to get rid of. The

:06:03. > :06:06.uncertainty that has been caused us because we do not know what Alex

:06:07. > :06:13.Salmond's other plan is. He has still not come up with an answer.

:06:14. > :06:18.This afternoon the Bank of England has an President of rebuke to John

:06:19. > :06:21.Swinney. He said yesterday that the Scottish Government are having

:06:22. > :06:24.discussions with the Bank of England. That is not true. We are

:06:25. > :06:29.being taught things that are not true. That is that is what is

:06:30. > :06:32.causing the uncertainty. The Bank of England does have contingency plans.

:06:33. > :06:41.The Bank of England said they had technical discussions. Now, they

:06:42. > :06:46.said they had had technical questions. John Swinney tried to

:06:47. > :06:49.spin that as technical discussions. It is unprecedented for the Bank of

:06:50. > :06:55.England to rebuke a partition in this way. The point I am trying to

:06:56. > :07:04.put to you about the Bank of England is that they have taken a middle

:07:05. > :07:09.line, a neutral line, between the two options. But what they have said

:07:10. > :07:12.is that there is a situation of financial instability drawing and

:07:13. > :07:19.they want to mitigate that by making clear that there are contingency

:07:20. > :07:24.plans. I am seeing that you and your colleagues could help that situation

:07:25. > :07:29.of financial uncertainty by making it clear that afterwards you would

:07:30. > :07:37.consider our financial can see union if it was end the best interests.

:07:38. > :07:41.The governor of the Bank of England said that what was causing

:07:42. > :07:45.uncertainty was the uncertainty of the referendum result. I know that

:07:46. > :07:53.the Bank of England has good contingency plans. But in relation

:07:54. > :07:57.to currency union, I could not summon who was Scottish, sign up to

:07:58. > :08:03.something that I think is bad for Scotland. It is clear to anybody who

:08:04. > :08:10.asks that here we are, two weeks before the first postal votes start

:08:11. > :08:14.going out, we simply don't know what currency we will have. That matters

:08:15. > :08:18.to people. When you get the Bank of England casting doubt on the

:08:19. > :08:25.veracity of what was said yesterday, when they said there were

:08:26. > :08:29.discussions, and they see there are no discussions taking place, that is

:08:30. > :08:35.when people do get jittery. Just to be clear they confirmed that

:08:36. > :08:42.technicalities were talked about. Now, just questions. As a former

:08:43. > :08:46.Chancellor, what would be the best currency option for an independent

:08:47. > :08:55.Scotland? Let us postulate a Yes vote. I think they are all rotten

:08:56. > :09:04.options. I would not join the euro. Democratically that is bad. Setting

:09:05. > :09:12.up your own currency in the present climate bash nobody would know what

:09:13. > :09:17.that's worth. It would be like Panama using the US dollar. It would

:09:18. > :09:24.be mad for the financial services sector. You have to run a financial

:09:25. > :09:27.surplus if you are doing that thing. One of the reasons that I

:09:28. > :09:31.passionately believe that Scotland will be better off and have more

:09:32. > :09:37.opportunities in the future is precisely because we would be part

:09:38. > :09:40.of the UK, we would be part of the UK currency, the Bank of England

:09:41. > :09:48.stands behind that, and the UK Government stands behind that. As a

:09:49. > :09:56.Scottish MP you have no view on what you would be urging a fair was a Yes

:09:57. > :10:03.vote? Let us just say that there was one in September. I passionately

:10:04. > :10:08.believe they are all second best options. The best option for

:10:09. > :10:18.Scotland as being part of the currency that we are part of at the

:10:19. > :10:22.moment. Why throw all that away? Here we are two weeks before the

:10:23. > :10:26.ballot papers go out and we simply do not know. There are other things

:10:27. > :10:30.that we simply do not know. We do not know what Scotland would look

:10:31. > :10:35.like in the event of a No vote either. All the prounion parties

:10:36. > :10:38.have offered more powers, but the offers are different. We do not know

:10:39. > :10:48.what we really getting into their either. I not agree. In terms of

:10:49. > :10:53.additional powers, there are already powers on the statute book that are

:10:54. > :11:03.coming over landfill tax and stamp jury. On top of that all three

:11:04. > :11:07.parties are arguing for a different degrees of further devolution in

:11:08. > :11:14.relation to tax and welfare. But we do not know what they are. It is

:11:15. > :11:21.dependent on who wins the next election. Yes, but they are pretty

:11:22. > :11:29.much on the same page. People said the same thing before 1997. Although

:11:30. > :11:36.the three parties were not in the same place at the start, they work

:11:37. > :11:39.together. Why do you find it so difficult to articulate and inspire

:11:40. > :11:50.people with a vision of the kind of Scotland you want to see if Scotland

:11:51. > :11:58.votes against independence? We can see why the Yes campaign wants a Yes

:11:59. > :12:02.vote. My vision of a better Scotland is where young people have the best

:12:03. > :12:08.opportunity to get on for themselves and their families. Where we have an

:12:09. > :12:13.elderly population with the security of the UK behind it in terms of

:12:14. > :12:19.paying pensions. We would not be so dependent as we would be in an

:12:20. > :12:26.independent Scotland on diminishing oil revenues. I believe that if we

:12:27. > :12:30.were to break away we would be less prosperous and we would have less

:12:31. > :12:34.opportunities. That is why I am passionately against independence.

:12:35. > :12:39.They have published a White Paper. Most of it depends on somebody else

:12:40. > :12:43.agreeing with absolutely everything else they want. Two weeks before

:12:44. > :12:48.ballot papers go out and we do not know answers to fundamental

:12:49. > :12:52.questions. Regarding Trident it has been said that if Scotland went

:12:53. > :12:56.independent it with either forced the UK to give up nuclear weapons,

:12:57. > :13:01.or it would be murderously expensive. Now we hear that moving

:13:02. > :13:05.Trident would be financially and technically feasible. It is just

:13:06. > :13:09.another skier story, isn't it? I have never argued you could not

:13:10. > :13:14.shift it. I have never argued that. The question is do you want to be

:13:15. > :13:26.spending people's tax money on moving at? I have never argued you

:13:27. > :13:43.could not shift it. They would be 8000 jobs at risk because all the

:13:44. > :13:51.submarine work with go with that. They see it may not be completed

:13:52. > :13:55.until 2028. That is a lifetime away. In the debate many people considered

:13:56. > :14:00.you were the winner. But there is criticism of both of you for not

:14:01. > :14:04.being forthright with your answers. Can we expect a more enlightening

:14:05. > :14:10.and more candid debate next time? I hope so. We are in the hands of the

:14:11. > :14:16.BBC and somebody will be vigorously refereeing the match. We are in the

:14:17. > :14:24.hands of yourself and Alex Salmond. I will always endeavour to do that.

:14:25. > :14:33.Time is running out. The ballot papers go out in two weeks time.

:14:34. > :14:44.That referendum debate will be shown live on BBC One Scotland at 8:30pm

:14:45. > :14:48.on the 25th of August. Last night's Reporting Scotland

:14:49. > :14:56.interview with the First Minister is online.

:14:57. > :14:58.You're watching Reporting Scotland from the BBC.

:14:59. > :14:59.Still to come on tonight's programme:

:15:00. > :15:02.Recognition at last for the Thurso detective who led the Jack

:15:03. > :15:06.the Ripper investigation in Victorian London.

:15:07. > :15:14.And one of the biggest names in golf pulls out of the Ryder Cup. And a

:15:15. > :15:17.Celtic player admits he is embarrassed about the European

:15:18. > :15:27.Champions League decision. The two bodies which oversee the

:15:28. > :15:30.police in Scotland are to conduct a joint inquiry into the controversial

:15:31. > :15:32.decision to allow officers with guns In the past armed officers were only

:15:33. > :15:36.deployed when necessary and the review has been prompted

:15:37. > :15:51.by a row over the change in policy. Top brass decided they should be

:15:52. > :15:57.allowed to carry weapons on regular patrols to ensure faster and more

:15:58. > :16:07.widely available response. But there has been a of criticism. We have to

:16:08. > :16:10.learn for the future about how issues affect individual

:16:11. > :16:15.communities. We need to build on the knowledge we gain from that to make

:16:16. > :16:19.sure communities better understand the police in the future, and that

:16:20. > :16:25.the police understand the impact of their decisions. Criticism of the

:16:26. > :16:28.new firearms policy began to surface in the Highlands which has one of

:16:29. > :16:34.the lowest crime rates in the country. And at a time when firearms

:16:35. > :16:38.offences are at a ten year low. The criticism was further fuelled by

:16:39. > :16:48.this picture showing three armed officers going to sort out a minor

:16:49. > :16:51.scuffle outside and Inverness shop. There is an opportunity for all the

:16:52. > :16:57.items that have been in the media and the council chambers to be eared

:16:58. > :17:02.and seriously considered. I hope at the end of the day it will lead to a

:17:03. > :17:07.resolution to this problem. This is the first test since the creation of

:17:08. > :17:09.Police Scotland as to where the dividing lines are between

:17:10. > :17:15.operational decisions and overall policy-making. The police themselves

:17:16. > :17:22.or their overseers bash who has the final say?

:17:23. > :17:25.The number of deaths in Scotland involving so-called legal highs more

:17:26. > :17:27.than doubled last year, according to new figures.

:17:28. > :17:29.There were 113 deaths in 2013 where new psychoactive

:17:30. > :17:32.substances were present, compared to 47 the year before.

:17:33. > :17:37.The overall number of drug-related deaths dropped by 9%.

:17:38. > :17:39.Councils should have more control over taxes and determine how

:17:40. > :17:43.That's according to an independent commission set up to look

:17:44. > :17:48.It says local authorities could have complete power to set the council

:17:49. > :17:57.The Commission was set up by the council umbrella body COSLA.

:17:58. > :18:00.A look at other stories from the across the country:

:18:01. > :18:03.A man who stabbed his wife to death at their home in

:18:04. > :18:07.Longforgan, near Dundee, three years ago is suing the health service.

:18:08. > :18:11.Neil Cumming is claiming that they failed to treat his mental illness

:18:12. > :18:14.properly before he killed his wife Jane and then deliberately

:18:15. > :18:22.He was found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity.

:18:23. > :18:24.A national centre to improve responses to weather emergencies

:18:25. > :18:29.The facility at the Crichton University and Business campus

:18:30. > :18:33.Their roles will be part-co-ordination

:18:34. > :18:48.Having a national centre will ensure that the best possible techniques

:18:49. > :18:53.are used across Scotland. Police are urging local drivers to

:18:54. > :18:56.be patient with fellow motorists, especially tourists,

:18:57. > :18:57.after the latest accident figures There have been 175 incidents In

:18:58. > :19:05.the Lochaber, Skye and Lochalsh areas since the beginning of June,

:19:06. > :19:23.almost half in Lochaber alone. Be patient. Visitors are coming here

:19:24. > :19:25.to enjoy our hospitality and Sina D. -- and Susie.

:19:26. > :19:28.The Duke and Duchess of Rothesay have been attending the

:19:29. > :19:30.Ballater Highland games, which is celebrating its 150th anniversary.

:19:31. > :19:32.The royal couple, whose holiday home at Birkhall

:19:33. > :19:35.on the Balmoral estate is nearby, spent some time in the Chieftain's

:19:36. > :19:39.One of the biggest names in world of sport has pulled out

:19:40. > :19:45.Tiger Woods was expected by many to be in the United States team to face

:19:46. > :19:48.Europe next month but he's withdrawn because of a back injury.

:19:49. > :20:18.Former world number one four years ago, but this time around injury

:20:19. > :20:23.means there will be no place in team USA for Tiger Woods. This is the

:20:24. > :20:29.18th Green where much of the drama in the Ryder Cup is expected to

:20:30. > :20:39.unfold. But will be absence of Tiger Woods the track from this global

:20:40. > :20:45.golfing event? These two Ryder Cup vice captains

:20:46. > :20:55.said it would not affect the event. If he is not fair he is not fair. I

:20:56. > :21:00.have heard other players taking ten months from that injury. He probably

:21:01. > :21:07.came out to correlate. We are going to focus on our team. Preparations

:21:08. > :21:10.are well and truly underway for the big event in six weeks time. But

:21:11. > :21:15.will not be graced by Tiger Woods. UEFA have thrown out Legia Warsaw's

:21:16. > :21:18.appeal to be allowed back into the Champions league qualifiers

:21:19. > :21:20.at Celtic's expense. Celtic who lost to the Poles

:21:21. > :21:22.in a qualifying tie were re-instated because their opponents

:21:23. > :21:24.fielded a suspended player. Now Legia want the Court

:21:25. > :21:26.of Arbitration As it stands though Celtic will play

:21:27. > :21:31.Maribor in the final qualifying round, although one player admits

:21:32. > :21:44.a degree of embarrassment. What can you do? You have got to get

:21:45. > :21:46.on that. You cannot feel sorry for yourselves and be embarrassed about

:21:47. > :21:48.getting through. It is not the really wanted to get through, but we

:21:49. > :21:58.need is to get on that. Glasgow 2014 silver medal winners

:21:59. > :22:01.Eilidh Child and Lynsey Sharp are through to the finals

:22:02. > :22:03.of their events at the Europan Eilidh Child winning her semi

:22:04. > :22:08.final in the 400 metres hurdles. Lynsey Sharp also coming home first

:22:09. > :22:20.in the semis of the 800 metres. I am a different athletes than I was

:22:21. > :22:27.two years ago. I am hoping to build on that. I just try to enjoy every

:22:28. > :22:33.race. I am laughing coming out and racing.

:22:34. > :22:35.A largely unknown detective from Thurso, who ended up

:22:36. > :22:38.in charge of The Jack the Ripper investigation, has finally been

:22:39. > :22:40.recognised, after the full story emerged of his involvement

:22:41. > :22:43.Five women were mutilated by the so-called Ripper in

:22:44. > :22:46.London's East End in the late 19th century and Donald Swanson went

:22:47. > :23:01.Jackie O'Brien reports from Caithness.

:23:02. > :23:06.The grand starter of Donald Swanson returns to the streets he was

:23:07. > :23:16.brought up in. -- the grand daughter. When you are 20 world is

:23:17. > :23:24.your oyster. I suppose he thought they got on that Stagecoach he would

:23:25. > :23:29.get to London eventually. He joined the Metropolitan Police and was

:23:30. > :23:33.placed in overall charge of the Jack the Ripper investigation, dramatised

:23:34. > :23:40.here for the BBC. Through documents, including his address book, new

:23:41. > :23:47.light has been shed on how the detective also identified the main

:23:48. > :23:53.suspect. The main suspect went insane. He was placed in an asylum

:23:54. > :24:00.and that was probably the end of the murders. But the family of Donald

:24:01. > :24:21.Swanson knew little about his involvement until he died.

:24:22. > :24:27.This week Donald Swanson is finally being recognised. A memorial has

:24:28. > :24:38.been placed outside the police station.

:24:39. > :24:43.So now there is or has unlinked with one of the most notorious serial

:24:44. > :24:52.killers in the world. It was a story that almost remained untold.

:24:53. > :24:55.And here is what is on Scotland's 2014.

:24:56. > :25:02.We will be debating the future of socialism and Scotland with Tommy

:25:03. > :25:14.Sheridan and Owen Jones. They agree on so much except independence.

:25:15. > :25:19.And here is the weather. There has been a number of showers around in

:25:20. > :25:28.some parts of the country and more still to come. There is a yellow Met

:25:29. > :25:38.Office warning in place. Largely dry, fairly cloudy. Temperatures in

:25:39. > :25:46.towns and cities in double digits. Friday gets off to a reasonably dry

:25:47. > :26:00.start. Decent bright and sunny spells developing in the afternoon.

:26:01. > :26:09.By mid afternoon. Further North little bit cooler. One or two

:26:10. > :26:17.showers perhaps affecting the far North. The rest of the afternoon

:26:18. > :26:36.into the evening and overnight we will hold onto some brightness. Over

:26:37. > :26:41.the weekend the weekend there will. Saturday, the further South and East

:26:42. > :27:03.you are, generally try and bright start. Sunday and the low pressure

:27:04. > :27:10.is still with us. It will be windy wherever you are. It will feel

:27:11. > :27:18.colder because of the wind. Now,

:27:19. > :27:20.a reminder of tonight's main news. A group of defence experts says it

:27:21. > :27:24.would be possible for the UK to keep its nuclear deterrent if there was

:27:25. > :27:26.a Yes vote in the referendum. The Royal United Services Institute

:27:27. > :27:29.says removing Trident submarines from Scotland is financially

:27:30. > :27:34.and technically feasible.