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:00:00. > :00:07.Westminster unites in an attempt to preserve the union.

:00:08. > :00:10.The three main London party leaders travel to Scotland, lead

:00:11. > :00:13.by the Prime Minister, who made an impassioned plea to voters But the

:00:14. > :00:26.I care more about my country than I do about my party.

:00:27. > :00:29.Alex Salmond says London-based politicians are

:00:30. > :00:38.so despised here they're just helping the cause of independence.

:00:39. > :00:41.What to seeing today is team Westminster, jetting up to Scotland

:00:42. > :00:45.for the, because they are scared. I'll be interviewing the

:00:46. > :00:47.First Minister here in the studio. Meanwhile,

:00:48. > :00:53.ill-tempered scenes on the stump. Labour's former big hitter

:00:54. > :00:55.John Prescott finds himself in a campaign melee, as he arrives

:00:56. > :00:59.here with criticisms of both sides. We'll hear how

:01:00. > :01:02.the referendum debate is playing out And in other news, golf's Ryder Cup

:01:03. > :01:10.trophy touches down in Gleneagles The Prime Minister has made

:01:11. > :01:27.an emotional appeal ahead Speaking in Edinburgh,

:01:28. > :01:31.David Cameron said he would be "heartbroken" if the vote results in

:01:32. > :01:36.the UK being "torn apart". David Cameron, Ed Miliband and Nick

:01:37. > :01:39.Clegg all abandoned Westminster for The First Minister claimed what he

:01:40. > :01:46.described as the "panicked" last minute visit by the

:01:47. > :01:50.three leaders would only serve to And Alex Salmond characterised

:01:51. > :01:55.today's campaigning as "Team This from our political editor

:01:56. > :02:12.Brian Taylor. Was this a business trip for the

:02:13. > :02:15.Prime Minister? Certainly, he linked economics with independence, and

:02:16. > :02:20.argued that pensions were more securely funded by the entire UK,

:02:21. > :02:24.but speaking in an Edinburgh finance house, this felt more like Annie

:02:25. > :02:31.Morley and visit to a close but disquieted relative. This, said

:02:32. > :02:38.Cameron, with about family. Even if it may suit the Tories to dispense

:02:39. > :02:45.of Scotland. Sometimes people ask me why I feel so strongly about it.

:02:46. > :02:49.Here you are, coming to Scotland, a Tory leader with one member of

:02:50. > :02:52.Scotland. Wouldn't you be able to get a majority more easily if

:02:53. > :02:56.Scotland was to separate itself from the United Kingdom, and my answer to

:02:57. > :03:01.that is that I care far more about my country than I do about my party.

:03:02. > :03:06.He said this choice was not transient, but permanent. I think

:03:07. > :03:09.people can feel it is a little like a general election, that you make a

:03:10. > :03:14.decision and five years later you can make another decision if you are

:03:15. > :03:20.fed up with the decision. This is totally different. He forecast that

:03:21. > :03:28.an independent organ might struggle to gain EU membership and promised

:03:29. > :03:35.more powers for Scotland. The pitch was personal. He would work with an

:03:36. > :03:38.independent Scotland, but didn't welcome the prospect. I would be

:03:39. > :03:42.heartbroken if this family of nations was torn apart. We care

:03:43. > :03:49.about it because we believe, all of us, wherever we are from, these

:03:50. > :03:52.islands are home. In a community hall in Cumbernauld, Ed Miliband

:03:53. > :03:56.pleaded for the union, while stressing that Labour would seek to

:03:57. > :04:01.oust David Cameron from Downing Street. Mr Miller than's appeal was

:04:02. > :04:06.also personal, recalling that his parents had come to Britain as

:04:07. > :04:11.refugees from the Nazis. I want to make the case to you today, head,

:04:12. > :04:17.heart and soul. We are stronger staying together, because we can

:04:18. > :04:21.better create a more equal and more just society. I want to make the

:04:22. > :04:26.case to you from the heart, because of the ties that bind us together,

:04:27. > :04:31.and which would be broken apart by separatism. I want to make the case

:04:32. > :04:35.to you from the soul, because it was in holes like this but our movement

:04:36. > :04:42.was formed on the basis of solidarity. The choice is yes and

:04:43. > :04:49.no. In Selkirk, Nick Clegg had both options yelled in his ear during a

:04:50. > :04:55.rowdy welcome. He stressed the permanence of that choice. It is a

:04:56. > :04:59.momentous decision. It is not a decision you can and do tomorrow. It

:05:00. > :05:03.is a decision which will last for ever, and that is why it is so

:05:04. > :05:07.important. They are political rivals, they will contest each other

:05:08. > :05:09.next year at the UK general election, but today, they were all

:05:10. > :05:10.backing the union. The First Minister, Alex Salmond,

:05:11. > :05:13.claimed to be leading Team Scotland against Team Westminster today

:05:14. > :05:15.when he brought together the different strands of the Yes

:05:16. > :05:17.campaign in Edinburgh. Our political correspondent,

:05:18. > :05:28.Glenn Campbell, was there. This was the United front from the

:05:29. > :05:31.Yes campaign. Alex Salmond, campaigning with socialists and

:05:32. > :05:37.greens as well as the SNP, standing shoulder to shoulder with his

:05:38. > :05:42.one-time deputy Jim Sillars, who has won -- who has been one of his

:05:43. > :05:47.harshest critics. Mr Salmond leading Team Scotland. What we are seeing

:05:48. > :05:53.today is team Westminster jetting up to Scotland for the day, because

:05:54. > :05:57.they are scared. Our campaign has the key test on jobs. We are looking

:05:58. > :06:00.for a powerhouse parliament that can create jobs in Scotland. All team

:06:01. > :06:06.Westminster are concerned about is their own jobs. Journalist from home

:06:07. > :06:09.and abroad were here today. Among campaigners, a sense that the UK

:06:10. > :06:13.party leaders would struggle to stall the momentum that this

:06:14. > :06:17.campaign appears to have. The days of them coming up a day trip and

:06:18. > :06:26.telling us what to do all gone. We want the pattern any more. -- we

:06:27. > :06:30.want to be patronised any more. We are not having it any more. Scotland

:06:31. > :06:36.still describes itself as the underdog in this referendum, with

:06:37. > :06:39.only one Paul having suggest that they may have edged ahead, but they

:06:40. > :06:47.are starting to believe that they can't lose. They are desperate, and

:06:48. > :06:59.they are trying everything, but it is too little, too late. I think the

:07:00. > :07:02.momentum is now on is now ensemble. The singing didn't stop warnings

:07:03. > :07:09.from big business filtering through. Standard Life said it had

:07:10. > :07:14.contingency plans to reregister part of its operations to England, if

:07:15. > :07:18.Scotland votes for independence. We are at the stage in Scotland where

:07:19. > :07:20.people are going to look at scaremongering and shake their heads

:07:21. > :07:27.and say, have these people got nothing else to say except for this

:07:28. > :07:34.negative doom mongering? Bueller Scotland are looking forward to a

:07:35. > :07:36.more prosperous society. Achieving that Parliament is the one goal at

:07:37. > :07:46.these old rivals definitely share. Jim Sillars confirmed that he will

:07:47. > :07:51.return to the campaign trail later. Vote yes, and never, ever again at

:07:52. > :07:58.will and English Conservative Prime Minister take control of our country

:07:59. > :08:03.of Scotland. Today was not a artificial stunt. Alex and I are

:08:04. > :08:09.united, and so is Nicola, and so are the Greens and the Socialists, and

:08:10. > :08:14.my campaign, we are all united towards getting that yes vote. The

:08:15. > :08:19.Yes campaign have been buoyed by opinion polls, suggesting that this

:08:20. > :08:22.contest will go right to the wire, and they are going to put all the

:08:23. > :08:25.got into trying to win over undecided voters in the final week

:08:26. > :08:29.of this campaign. Let's go to Edinbugh and

:08:30. > :08:31.our political editor, Brian Taylor. Brian, there's

:08:32. > :08:35.a huge economic debate raging. Why then did the UK party leaders

:08:36. > :08:52.come north majoring You are right. That debate is

:08:53. > :08:58.enormously salient. I guess the concept today is that those who are

:08:59. > :09:01.supporting the union reckon they can back that to some extent, they can

:09:02. > :09:07.talk it up and reinforce that, but they believe that the vote may be

:09:08. > :09:12.going slightly like that, towards it, given that they have heard it

:09:13. > :09:15.for quite some time. They feel that if you add the interest of the

:09:16. > :09:20.emotional perspective, but of course you have those warnings from

:09:21. > :09:25.Standard Life and other financial companies. About the limited oil

:09:26. > :09:28.reserves that he believes are there. And the Governor of the Bank of

:09:29. > :09:35.England talking about the extent of reserves that Scott and would need

:09:36. > :09:38.in order to use sterling. You have all the arguments counterbalancing

:09:39. > :09:42.that, but today you have getting to the heart, the gut, the prospective

:09:43. > :09:45.whereby the UK leaders are arguing that they are offering far more than

:09:46. > :09:52.simply a financial balance sheet, they are offering the retention of

:09:53. > :09:57.the union. Brian, Alex Salmond predicted that the visit would

:09:58. > :10:02.backfire, did it? That is up to the voters. We will learn on September

:10:03. > :10:06.the 18th. The supporters of the union, particularly those who are

:10:07. > :10:12.around the leadership, are getting exasperated with what they see as Mr

:10:13. > :10:15.Salmond's refusal to engage in those questions coming from Standard Life

:10:16. > :10:20.and the pensions fund, and those in the North Sea sectors, they are

:10:21. > :10:24.exasperated by that. I think they will have to get used to more Furia

:10:25. > :10:29.exasperation. I don't see the Yes campaign addressing that directly.

:10:30. > :10:34.If you like, from their perspective, that would be talking about an

:10:35. > :10:37.agenda that Google may seek to challenge them. I think Alex Salmond

:10:38. > :10:45.will argue that they have addressed these questions. They say they have

:10:46. > :10:48.already addressed them and the point now is about the joys of the

:10:49. > :10:53.Scottish people and the argument you are hearing from the Nationalists is

:10:54. > :10:59.that on September the 18th and people of Scotland will potentially

:11:00. > :11:00.have full sovereignty in their hands, and they can choose to retain

:11:01. > :11:04.it ought to share it again. Investors and asset managers have

:11:05. > :11:06.withdrawn hundreds of millions of pounds from Scotland because

:11:07. > :11:08.of uncertainty around next week's referendum, according to financial

:11:09. > :11:12.services company. Meanwhile the savings giant

:11:13. > :11:15.Standard Life has said it may transfer parts of its business out

:11:16. > :11:18.of Scotland if there's a yes vote. Our correspondent David Henderson

:11:19. > :11:31.can tell us more. Tellers about the movement of money.

:11:32. > :11:34.People who manage money tend not to like

:11:35. > :11:37.And as this campaign intensifies, we're seeing quite a bit of that.

:11:38. > :11:39.So some investors and businesses are taking decisions

:11:40. > :11:45.to protect themselves from what they see as risk.

:11:46. > :11:52.So one company, Multrees Investor Services, said today it's helped

:11:53. > :11:55.move hundreds of millions of pounds out of Scotland for a

:11:56. > :12:01.They tell me this has been going on over the last nine months.

:12:02. > :12:10.But a spokesman for the trade body for the financial industry

:12:11. > :12:18.in Scotland was playing this down when he spoke to us earlier.

:12:19. > :12:20.Standard Life have repeated warning their that they

:12:21. > :12:24.Well, they said this in the spring, now they're repeating it largely to

:12:25. > :12:26.reassure the majority of their customers who are in England.

:12:27. > :12:28.Standard Life are not natural Yes campaigners.

:12:29. > :12:33.They oppose independence and opposed Scottish devolution.

:12:34. > :12:38.90 percent of their business is outside Scotland.

:12:39. > :12:43.And they say for those customers, they want to ensure that whatever

:12:44. > :12:45.happens in the referendum, they'll continue to trade

:12:46. > :12:51.in sterling, they want the current UK tax regime to apply to them,

:12:52. > :12:54.and they want City regulators to protect those investments.

:12:55. > :13:02.In response, the First Minister told us this is scare-mongering.

:13:03. > :13:05.He said the company's investing in a multi-million pound property

:13:06. > :13:08.There were ill-tempered scenes and a few scuffles elsewhere

:13:09. > :13:10.on the campaign trail today when Lord Prescott arrived

:13:11. > :13:16.He is one of the no campaign's so called big hitters but received

:13:17. > :13:19.a noisy welcome as he sought to appeal to wavering Labour voters.

:13:20. > :13:30.Our political correspondent Tim Reid was there.

:13:31. > :13:41.uncertainty the two faces of this debate. That was even before the No

:13:42. > :13:49.campaign's battle bus rolled into Rutherglen this morning. Lord

:13:50. > :13:58.Prescott has seem worse, and simply carried on today. With eight days to

:13:59. > :14:16.go, feelings are running high. I am here to talk to Labour voters. 30

:14:17. > :14:21.pieces of silver. I will give you 30 pieces of silver if you will shut

:14:22. > :14:24.up. The media scrum which met the politician it shows that his

:14:25. > :14:29.presence was important for the No campaign, to try to dissuade Labour

:14:30. > :14:38.supporters from voting yes. Despite today's prounion party union, he

:14:39. > :14:44.couldn't help but turned his fire on the Conservatives. You have always

:14:45. > :14:50.been labour, and you are unhappy, and I do see all those values that

:14:51. > :14:54.have contributed to a prosperous country, one that believes in social

:14:55. > :15:00.justice, never came from conservatives. But the customer is

:15:01. > :15:04.not always right or convincing. I am still undecided at the moment. I

:15:05. > :15:15.have a small business, so I have to look at every aspect. Today's's

:15:16. > :15:23.scenes not as bad as these in the past. We are a peaceful country. We

:15:24. > :15:29.don't want nuclear weapons, we don't want food banks, and we don't want

:15:30. > :15:37.to be ruled by the English. The silent majority. Not very silent

:15:38. > :15:41.today. Today's scenes illustrate just how divided the nation is on

:15:42. > :15:45.this crucial question. As the campaign rolls on, the capture

:15:46. > :15:47.continues to rise. -- the temperature.

:15:48. > :15:52.Joining me is the First Minister, Alex Salmond.

:15:53. > :15:58.It's calling them team Westminster... Is that a way of

:15:59. > :16:05.maintaining a strong and enduring friendship? Well, this is about the

:16:06. > :16:12.campaign to date, and what happened today was that the three Westminster

:16:13. > :16:14.leaders came up here in a panic, suspending Prime Minister's

:16:15. > :16:26.Questions, and wanted to dominate the agenda. Our campaign has always

:16:27. > :16:29.been a grassroots campaign. A debate can take place very fairly on that

:16:30. > :16:35.perspective. That doesn't alter the fact that, consistently through this

:16:36. > :16:42.campaign, we want to build a constructive partnership after the

:16:43. > :16:46.vote with our friends and neighbours after the vote. But why: Team

:16:47. > :16:56.Westminster, and say that the people of Scotland hold both leaders in

:16:57. > :17:00.contempt? That was the argument in the context of the day. There is no

:17:01. > :17:06.doubt that they are Westminster leaders. They came not from

:17:07. > :17:10.Westminster today. But was against the grassroots campaign of the Yes

:17:11. > :17:14.campaign. Which encompassed everyone from the Scottish Greens to

:17:15. > :17:18.businesses of the nations. That is the grassroots campaign of Team

:17:19. > :17:23.Scotland, and it is legitimate to say that it was up against team

:17:24. > :17:27.Westminster, the Westminster leaders of the No campaign. That was a

:17:28. > :17:33.legitimate thing to say in the context of the debate. You said that

:17:34. > :17:39.they were afraid. Why did you travel down to Carlisle on St George's Day

:17:40. > :17:47.to campaign there? Were you panicked? I have been making

:17:48. > :17:53.speeches across a range of areas, also in Newcastle and Liverpool, but

:17:54. > :18:00.with eight few days to go before the vote, I wouldn't cancel my own

:18:01. > :18:04.duties to rush down to England. It was the No campaign who said that

:18:05. > :18:08.everything should be left to their Scottish colleagues, and the

:18:09. > :18:17.Westminster leaders were leading it to their Scottish colleagues, and

:18:18. > :18:22.they have now changed tactic. We saw the living embodiment of panic

:18:23. > :18:25.today. Certainly a lot of development is today. Let me recap.

:18:26. > :18:32.A warning from Standard Life about moving parts of its business. Oil

:18:33. > :18:35.and gas UK saying that there is not as much oil left in the North Sea as

:18:36. > :18:42.you say there is. He is saying they will bring no revenue to Scotland by

:18:43. > :18:51.2050. David Cameron says that pensions are safer with the UK. It

:18:52. > :18:54.is all very well complain about the better together tactics, but you are

:18:55. > :19:00.not answering those sort of questions. Well, I will answer them.

:19:01. > :19:07.The industry estimate is up to 24 billion barrels of oil remaining. At

:19:08. > :19:18.$100 per barrel, that is worth ?1 trillion sterling. That is ?6

:19:19. > :19:23.billion per year, which is over ?1000 per head or every man, woman

:19:24. > :19:28.and child in Scotland. Even on that cautious estimate, every other

:19:29. > :19:36.country in the world would regard that as a tremendous asset. But no

:19:37. > :19:44.revenue by 2050? You are basing a country buzz might feature on oil?

:19:45. > :19:47.When I first debated this, as an oil economist, the UK Treasury predicted

:19:48. > :19:52.that there would be no oil left by the year 2000. In 2014, we are

:19:53. > :19:55.stubborn and is in large quantities. They are now seeing 2000. In 2014,

:19:56. > :20:12.we are stubborn and is in large quantities. They are now -- many

:20:13. > :20:15.people would argue that the potential of hard to reach oil in

:20:16. > :20:21.the Central and North Sea, many experts are saying that not for the

:20:22. > :20:25.next 35 years or 50 years, but perhaps for the next century, any

:20:26. > :20:29.country in the world, even on the most cautious estimate would regard

:20:30. > :20:33.that as an enormous resource. Only the No campaign say that oil and gas

:20:34. > :20:37.is a curse. The reason that people don't believe it is that they have

:20:38. > :20:43.been saying this sort of thing for a long time. Let me move on to this

:20:44. > :20:47.movement of money. Standard Life saying that they will move large

:20:48. > :20:50.parts of its business down south. There is a difference between the

:20:51. > :20:57.registration of the company and moving jobs. I have heard that there

:20:58. > :21:07.is a danger of Lloyds living to London. Lloyds has always been based

:21:08. > :21:12.in London, but they have a registered office in Edinburgh, and

:21:13. > :21:26.there is a big difference, and most people understand that. Martin

:21:27. > :21:31.Gilbert, the star company, Aberdeen Asset Management, are declaring that

:21:32. > :21:33.an independent Scotland would be a substantial success for the

:21:34. > :21:37.financial sector. They are not saying how their voting, but they

:21:38. > :21:42.are saying that an independent Holland would be a substantial

:21:43. > :21:48.success for the financial sector. -- an independent Scotland. I think

:21:49. > :21:51.independence would be good for the financial sector in Scotland, but I

:21:52. > :21:54.also think the financial sector in Scotland depends on the skills and

:21:55. > :21:58.abilities of the people who work within it. That is what makes it

:21:59. > :22:08.prosperous, not weirdly registered offices. What about pensions, then?

:22:09. > :22:13.That is one of the most interesting debate in this campaign. The way to

:22:14. > :22:17.respond to that is to introduce the measures that will allow our working

:22:18. > :22:20.age publishing to be in balance with our pensioners. We can do that in

:22:21. > :22:26.two ways, firstly by providing more opportunities for the young people

:22:27. > :22:34.of Scotland. And that will fund the pensions? Exactly. All of the

:22:35. > :22:39.forecast that the UK are relying on say that Scotland's population will

:22:40. > :22:43.be 4% as proposed to 20% across the UK will stop it doesn't have to be

:22:44. > :22:45.like that. We can take that future into our own hands, and provide

:22:46. > :22:54.implement opportunities to all young people, and also by allowing people

:22:55. > :22:58.who we educate from overseas to stay in Scotland, as opposed to taking

:22:59. > :23:01.them out of the country, which is what the Westminster government does

:23:02. > :23:05.at the present. These demographic challenges are faced by every

:23:06. > :23:08.country in Europe, and what independence is about is having the

:23:09. > :23:13.ability and the policy mechanisms to rise to that challenge and meet it.

:23:14. > :23:17.Can I ask you about health, and this is something you have been talking

:23:18. > :23:22.about over the past few weeks, and the threat that without independence

:23:23. > :23:26.it will be privatised. If that was that a major worry, why was it not

:23:27. > :23:39.mentioned in your White Paper? It has always been an abiding concern.

:23:40. > :23:42.The nurses pay award has developed since the White Paper. The

:23:43. > :23:47.Westminster government have decided not to award nurses a pay award,

:23:48. > :23:52.which is miserly in itself. In Scotland, we decided to make that

:23:53. > :23:59.award, to keep faith with our NHS staff. That means we have to find

:24:00. > :24:03.?30 million which does not come through the Barnett formula, we have

:24:04. > :24:10.to find that as of other budgets, is to support that pay award. Isn't

:24:11. > :24:20.that one of the joys of demolition? And why has the SNP government 's

:24:21. > :24:25.bent -- spent many nights of pounds sending patients for private

:24:26. > :24:32.treatment? The Labour Party in England claim that it is heading to

:24:33. > :24:36.20%, but the nurses pay award shows that if spending is reduced by not

:24:37. > :24:39.being the nurses in England, it has a knock-on consequence in Scotland.

:24:40. > :24:45.The same thing would happen with public expenditure restrictions, or

:24:46. > :24:50.by introducing charges, and we cannot keep finding out of other

:24:51. > :24:57.budgets, money to support that. It puts the NHS under pressure. We have

:24:58. > :25:02.to support both sides of the balance sheet. Our wonderful National Health

:25:03. > :25:06.Service can only remain safe in public hands in Scotland, unaffected

:25:07. > :25:11.by policies being pursued at Westminster. Finally, after the

:25:12. > :25:16.question that I asked Alistair Darling last night, eight few weeks

:25:17. > :25:23.ago you were in this Judeo, and you were behind in all of the polls, and

:25:24. > :25:28.you are overseas -- were perceived as having lost the last debate, and

:25:29. > :25:34.now you have won the last debate, is there a danger that you have peaked

:25:35. > :25:44.too soon? Nope. I think that I regard us as the underdogs in this

:25:45. > :25:48.campaign. The Westminster campaign will throw everything, probably the

:25:49. > :25:52.kitchen sink, at the Scottish people in the next week, but I am confident

:25:53. > :25:55.that we have moved beyond scaremongering, and that vision of a

:25:56. > :26:00.more prosperous country and a more just society, is a compelling one,

:26:01. > :26:04.and absolutely nothing that the No campaign can offer that can rival

:26:05. > :26:07.that message from the Yes campaign. Thank you very much.

:26:08. > :26:09.And if you missed last night's extended interview with Alistair

:26:10. > :26:12.Just head to bbc.co.uk/reportingscotland.

:26:13. > :26:15.Right now, though, we can cross to our roving referendum correspondent,

:26:16. > :26:29.We are in the courtyard of the Deacon Tim Bray arcs, were three

:26:30. > :26:34.undecided voters, who are having a quiet drink have been listening to

:26:35. > :26:40.your interview with Mr Salmond. What did you think? I think he made some

:26:41. > :26:44.fair points about the oil situation. He had some good argument

:26:45. > :26:48.there, that may have swayed me over the Yes campaign. He still didn't

:26:49. > :26:58.reassure me about pensions and some of the business points, which may

:26:59. > :27:04.push me towards a no vote. If it is really anguished decision for you?

:27:05. > :27:15.Definitely. My heart definitely says yes, but my mind and brain signal.

:27:16. > :27:19.-- say no. What did you think? I feel the same. My heart says yes,

:27:20. > :27:23.but I am not convinced about the future, and the finance situation. I

:27:24. > :27:26.think it will be right up to the wire before I make my final

:27:27. > :27:30.decision. There was nothing there that convinced me that I was

:27:31. > :27:34.definitely doing the right thing by voting yes. It is such a major

:27:35. > :27:40.decision that I reacted take right up to the wire to think about it.

:27:41. > :27:47.Will it be something that you will decide in the polling booth? I am

:27:48. > :27:53.swayed towards no. That is where I am swing to now. Well, we have one

:27:54. > :27:59.swayed towards yes, once way to attain. What about you? I didn't

:28:00. > :28:03.really hear anything that would persuade me. I am proud to be

:28:04. > :28:12.Scottish, but there are still too many questions about the economy and

:28:13. > :28:16.pensions, and oil as well. I am still 50-50, but I don't feel

:28:17. > :28:26.persuaded either way. I will decide in the wool incision. -- in the

:28:27. > :28:33.polling station. Why do you wish in Venice in your heart? Is it an

:28:34. > :28:41.opportunity? -- want independence in your heart? What would swing it for

:28:42. > :28:46.you? Pensions, and what will happen to the pound as well. If I can get a

:28:47. > :28:56.straight answer on that, that could sway me. Is that the same for you?

:28:57. > :29:02.Yes. I don't feel inspired by Alex Salmond. I don't think anyone is

:29:03. > :29:07.taking leadership. You thought questions over oil really help to

:29:08. > :29:12.make a decision there? I think he made some good points, but as I said

:29:13. > :29:18.it is not everything, and at the moment, I am probably still a no. I

:29:19. > :29:20.think if the No campaign came forward with some stronger

:29:21. > :29:25.arguments, that would definitely push me. I have spent the day

:29:26. > :29:30.wandering around the city of discovery, hopefully not falling

:29:31. > :29:34.over as I can assure you that we have not had a drink yet, but we

:29:35. > :29:40.have been wandering around the city of discovery as people are making

:29:41. > :29:44.this important decision. This is a city still shipping its future.

:29:45. > :29:53.Traditional manufacturing glazed by the creative, the digital. At

:29:54. > :29:59.Aberdeen University -- Abertay University, these students are in

:30:00. > :30:05.their first week. This musician fears that independence would put

:30:06. > :30:09.his future in some doubt. It feels like the world is in a state of

:30:10. > :30:17.flux, especially being in a creative industry that is prone to change.

:30:18. > :30:22.Others say voting yes is a new opportunity. We are a lot different

:30:23. > :30:27.than the rest of the UK, in terms of vertical, and it would be right

:30:28. > :30:34.until we get our own say. Independence is the only way

:30:35. > :30:40.forward. Dundee has won ten of the UK's digital industry. These artists

:30:41. > :30:44.develop versions of mine Kraft. They are undecided on their vote, but

:30:45. > :30:50.they know what it will take to make this industry try. Scotland is

:30:51. > :30:55.fantastically positioned. Scotland has one of the best education

:30:56. > :30:59.systems in the world. It has always been recognised as excellent in many

:31:00. > :31:03.ways, and developed accordingly, but that is where we have to focus. If

:31:04. > :31:10.we can bring more young and fresh talent into this industry, the sky

:31:11. > :31:14.is the limit. But would universities have the funding to develop their

:31:15. > :31:19.talent in an independent Scotland? Some academics believe that

:31:20. > :31:25.Scotland's best known in universities would lose funding.

:31:26. > :31:28.This is a city of science, technology and the creative arts,

:31:29. > :31:32.and it is thriving. We need to do more to make Dundee better, and it

:31:33. > :31:37.would be silly to risk these parts of our economy at this stage. Those

:31:38. > :31:43.campaigning for a yes vote say that Dundee's creative future is safe in

:31:44. > :31:46.an independent Scotland. We would like to agree a common research

:31:47. > :31:49.area, so that institutions as they do can sell collaborate around

:31:50. > :31:54.research, not just within these islands, but also within Europe as

:31:55. > :31:57.well. The Yes campaign have every reason to look cheerful. Polls

:31:58. > :32:06.suggest that thousands in the city will turn out just for them. This

:32:07. > :32:13.1's labour heartlands may well vote yes. We are getting very positive

:32:14. > :32:21.responses, but it is important how Scotland votes. Just around the

:32:22. > :32:27.corner, a former Labour supporter and now famous yes vote rally the

:32:28. > :32:31.crowds. I think it is all to play for, and we are playing very well,

:32:32. > :32:36.especially here in Dundee. It is a humbling experience, and it is

:32:37. > :32:40.across the divide, and you see how people have been treated by

:32:41. > :32:48.systematic and for them this is hope. A city of discovery and

:32:49. > :32:53.renewal. This time, the future will be shaped by the answer to a 6 word

:32:54. > :32:58.question. We will be back in a few moments, where I will be speaking to

:32:59. > :33:02.activists for both sides of the campaigns. Thank you.

:33:03. > :33:03.You're watching Reporting Scotland from the BBC.

:33:04. > :33:05.Still to come on tonight's programme:

:33:06. > :33:07.We'll be in Dundee to hear how the referendum

:33:08. > :33:10.And do Scottish companies feel independence would help

:33:11. > :33:26.Administrators for the Ferguson shipyard at Port Glasgow have

:33:27. > :33:29.confirmed the sale of the yard to the businessman Jim McColl's firm,

:33:30. > :33:32.The business went into administration last month with

:33:33. > :33:35.Mr McColl has pledged to quadruple the workforce

:33:36. > :33:46.The firm will be renamed Ferguson Marine Engineering.

:33:47. > :33:49.Renfrewshire Council is calling for more funding for child

:33:50. > :33:50.protection services following the death of Declan Hainey.

:33:51. > :33:54.The toddler's body was found at his Paisley home in March 2010, eight

:33:55. > :33:57.His mother's murder conviction was quashed on appeal.

:33:58. > :33:59.The local authority was one of several agencies criticised over

:34:00. > :34:16.What we have seen with the case of Declan, we all need to do some

:34:17. > :34:22.more. The public sector, the government, the public, we all have

:34:23. > :34:26.two walk together to make sure that these lessons are being wailed. --

:34:27. > :34:35.learned. Police Scotland is being urged to

:34:36. > :34:37.withdraw a particular type It follows an incident in

:34:38. > :34:42.which a policeman was hurt when It happened at Dumfries

:34:43. > :34:45.divisional headquarters in May. An investigation has found that

:34:46. > :34:47.the holster's design meant the taser's safety catch could

:34:48. > :34:49.become de-activated. Police have said

:34:50. > :34:50.a missing ex-prisoner who is unlawfully at large

:34:51. > :34:52.after having his licence revoked Johnathan Kelly, from the Drumchapel

:34:53. > :34:57.area of Glasgow, was freed from The 33-year-old is described

:34:58. > :35:00.as white, 5ft 9in tall, with short 50 popular dolphin sculptures

:35:01. > :35:08.from a successful art project in Aberdeen are to be auctioned

:35:09. > :35:10.for charity tonight.The Wild Dolphins project saw

:35:11. > :35:12.the decorated fibreglass figures set up across the city at locations

:35:13. > :35:15.including the beach and museums. It ended at the weekend

:35:16. > :35:20.after a 10-week run. The world's first blockbuster novel

:35:21. > :35:23.has gone on show at the National Library in Edinburgh to

:35:24. > :35:29.mark its two hundredth anniversary. The first thousand copies of

:35:30. > :35:34.'Waverley' sold out in two days. The story of the Jacobite '45 Rising

:35:35. > :35:39.was a big success but at first few knew who'd written it as Walter

:35:40. > :35:48.Scott had published it anonymously. Let's get an update on the world of

:35:49. > :35:59.sport now from Rhona. The new manager

:36:00. > :36:01.at Ross County says an attacking style of football will

:36:02. > :36:04.be one of his strategies to reverse Jim McIntyre says a supportive

:36:05. > :36:08.chairman and the freedom to manage as he sees fit, were

:36:09. > :36:10.among his reasons for moving north. County have lost their opening

:36:11. > :36:22.five league matches and currently Taking over a struggling Football

:36:23. > :36:27.Club can be a poisoned chalice, Tom around the fortunes and you only

:36:28. > :36:32.help but feel to alter things and the door of football management will

:36:33. > :36:38.spend once more. But the new men in charge mitten bill as some promise.

:36:39. > :36:47.If you do not start the campaign will, confidence can't eat a dip. We

:36:48. > :36:56.have to give the play some college. -- courage. It is a long campaign

:36:57. > :37:03.and plenty of points to play for. It is going to be a challenge but we

:37:04. > :37:07.are driven, and we will assess today, take a look, everybody will

:37:08. > :37:15.be Devon and opportunity. We will try to get the fast points. That can

:37:16. > :37:21.lead to better results. For support us at the stadium, it was an

:37:22. > :37:28.opportunity to meet the new manager. We have appointed a manager who has

:37:29. > :37:34.apparently great motivational skills and we will get the play-offs

:37:35. > :37:39.playing for them. It will be good to get the player scoring goals, and

:37:40. > :37:45.the supporters behind them. The new management team know they have a job

:37:46. > :37:56.on their hands, model are there on Saturday. -- Motherwell.

:37:57. > :37:59.The Ryder Cup trophy has arrived in Gleneagles ahead of the big showdown

:38:00. > :38:03.A global audience of 700 million will watch Europe defend their title

:38:04. > :38:05.against the United States, and as final preparations are made,

:38:06. > :38:08.the course manager believes the set up could favour the home side.

:38:09. > :38:24.Travelling in style, the Ryder Cup finishes as tour of Scotland at this

:38:25. > :38:28.macro Hotel. -- Gleneagles hotel. It was the conclusion of a ceremony

:38:29. > :38:33.that the zero quite run point clockwork. It is just after ten

:38:34. > :38:41.o'clock and by now, the Ryder Cup should have arrived. But the mist

:38:42. > :38:49.has grounded that the helicopter. Even the best laid plans can fall

:38:50. > :38:56.foul of the weather. Playing golf in these conditions is not possible but

:38:57. > :39:06.organisers are hopeful. We can catch up if we lose some and on Sunday we

:39:07. > :39:14.have four hours available. If we have delays, we can use that.

:39:15. > :39:22.Equally relaxed as the course manager. He believes the set-top at

:39:23. > :39:36.Gleneagles couldn't favour the European team. -- could. The

:39:37. > :39:44.Americans tend to be longer hitters. Europeans can be shorter. 45,000

:39:45. > :39:52.spectators will come here every day, the usual landscape will be

:39:53. > :39:59.transformed by these stands and marquees. To resolve walk lie ahead,

:40:00. > :40:07.to make sure Gleneagles is ready. Thank you. The independence debate

:40:08. > :40:08.may be raging but the sun is shining... What's in store

:40:09. > :40:35.Christopher? 22 degrees in Glasgow today. The

:40:36. > :40:49.chart from 7pm... Clear skies tonight. It, 10 Celsius in and

:40:50. > :40:56.cities. -- Eight. Moisture in the air. High pressure continues to stay

:40:57. > :41:05.weather. The mist and fog will quickly left and then on dry,

:41:06. > :41:11.settled day. Once again, as we head towards the middle part of the

:41:12. > :41:29.afternoon, it is warm. 19, 20 degrees. Fairly light winds. Thicker

:41:30. > :41:36.cloud to the Northern Isles. For the rest of the afternoon, staying

:41:37. > :41:46.settled. Sunshine to enjoy. Looking ahead to the end of the week, more

:41:47. > :42:02.pressure is never too far away. On Friday, more in the way of clouds. I

:42:03. > :42:15.don't, 20 degrees. -- Again. At the weekend, dry and settled. Given some

:42:16. > :42:17.sunshine, still feeling warm. Let's head back to Dundee now and our

:42:18. > :42:26.referendum correspondent, Laura Bicker.

:42:27. > :42:35.One of the interesting things that has been happening are the town hall

:42:36. > :42:54.debates. Brian Cox is attending one tonight. We were in Perth area.

:42:55. > :43:04.Democracy in action. Joining them, a crew from Danish TV. John Swinney

:43:05. > :43:19.was in attendance for the Yes campaign. Trident was injecting some

:43:20. > :43:24.passion. We will be part of the NATO lines that we will not have these

:43:25. > :43:33.nuclear weapons. If I am in government than I ask if I sit these

:43:34. > :43:39.fundamental principles, I already accept that principle as a Minister.

:43:40. > :43:46.In the mean, the audience listened closely and politely. 1000 people

:43:47. > :43:52.built on it. Why did they come here? What did they get out of it? I

:43:53. > :44:05.wanted to listen to what they had to say. I am concerned. I want to get

:44:06. > :44:14.all the information that I can. What do the politicians make of the

:44:15. > :44:17.turnout? I see emerging where people are coming along, not necessarily to

:44:18. > :44:22.give the arguments to be persuaded, most people have made their minds

:44:23. > :44:28.are and they want to reinforce the conclusion they have already

:44:29. > :44:33.reached. As the last few weeks of the campaign have meals, the level

:44:34. > :44:42.of activity and engagement has soared. I am not surprised by the

:44:43. > :44:48.turnout, people want to participate. This was one of a series of debates

:44:49. > :44:53.organised by a local newspaper. We had to engage, to see what the level

:44:54. > :45:04.of interest would be, and these events raked across Tayside, they

:45:05. > :45:13.have been delayed. -- great. But other people as always will have the

:45:14. > :45:23.final say. I have two people with migraine or the campaign very well.

:45:24. > :45:29.-- with me. What have you been seeing on the doorsteps? We are

:45:30. > :45:38.speaking to the people in Dundee. They will be voting and the only

:45:39. > :45:47.poll matters is on the day itself. Dundee is changing. Massively for

:45:48. > :45:54.the future. We have the lifescience industry and they have heard about

:45:55. > :46:02.the risks. All of these things are putting doubt. I was on the

:46:03. > :46:08.doorsteps today, speaking to people, and I had a conversation that

:46:09. > :46:24.started like most do, and a tear was running. She was very worried about

:46:25. > :46:26.what this meant. The Scottish National Party have had numerous

:46:27. > :46:36.occasions to answer some of the most pressing questions and still we do

:46:37. > :46:42.not have some answers. Polls are around the corner. We have had this

:46:43. > :46:50.unveiling of the timetable of new powers. Will that affect the vote

:46:51. > :47:02.for Yes? We have got the same table but we do not seem to have a bus. --

:47:03. > :47:11.got the timetable. Nobody is fooled by this. We are speaking to people

:47:12. > :47:19.as well. After recall we, the good stickers on the windows. Dundee is

:47:20. > :47:22.definitely a Yes city. Better Together want to frighten people.

:47:23. > :47:27.Actually, things are not that fantastic at the moment. We want

:47:28. > :47:34.independence because we want things to be great. The people of Scotland

:47:35. > :47:42.will make the correct decision for our country. That is what Better

:47:43. > :47:44.Together are not dating. He is fighting for the Labour Party

:47:45. > :47:54.against the Scottish National Party. Our campaign is broadbased. All of

:47:55. > :48:00.these decisions that he was talking about will be made by the people of

:48:01. > :48:10.Scotland. It could be any party. Two opposing viewpoints. A lot of

:48:11. > :48:21.tension. It is becoming an agonising time for voters. In the days leading

:48:22. > :48:23.up to the vote on September the 18th, we've been examining key areas

:48:24. > :48:25.in the battle for your vote. Tonight, our environment

:48:26. > :48:27.correspondent, David Miller, looks at what independence could mean for

:48:28. > :48:39.our electricity bills, and the renewable energy industry. Power

:48:40. > :48:43.lines have become battle lines. Huge investment has happened in Scotland

:48:44. > :48:48.and much of that has gone into the renewable energy industry. Also,

:48:49. > :48:57.investment in the oval networks that we rely on. -- other. The big

:48:58. > :49:05.question is who would pay for that in the event of independence. The

:49:06. > :49:08.cost of supporting these energy projects as she by people across the

:49:09. > :49:17.United Kingdom. Opponents of independency that would not happen

:49:18. > :49:27.after Yes. The danger, we would no longer have the single market. All

:49:28. > :49:39.of the things that are added on to bills. Yes campaigners argue it is

:49:40. > :49:45.the much greater cost of supporting these plans in England that would

:49:46. > :49:53.drive up the bills. We would have to subsidise England as Wales, England

:49:54. > :49:59.want to invest in Hinkley C. That would not happen in an independent

:50:00. > :50:07.Scotland. The goal for politicians is to keep the lights on and bills

:50:08. > :50:17.down. Also, tackling climate change but cutting greenhouse gas

:50:18. > :50:23.emissions. These days, most of Scotland's power is generated by the

:50:24. > :50:29.renewable sector energy is catching up. Both sides agree that the

:50:30. > :50:35.survival of a single electricity market across Britain after

:50:36. > :50:43.independence would be Vettel. -- vital. But they disagree on if that

:50:44. > :50:45.would happen. This is a debate about the power of Scotland, who needs it

:50:46. > :51:00.and to his forehead. Joining me to discuss the campaign

:51:01. > :51:03.so far - from the viewpoint of two of Scotland's leading newspapers -

:51:04. > :51:06.are two of their political editors, Magnus Gardham of the Herald and

:51:07. > :51:08.David Clegg of the Daily Record. David - the debate has been

:51:09. > :51:11.a long and slow burner and perhaps not the first thing yur

:51:12. > :51:26.readers turned to, do you now detect Absolutely. We had a 24 page

:51:27. > :51:32.supplement. We have been talking about the referendum for a long

:51:33. > :51:37.time, and in the last few weeks it has been all that people want to

:51:38. > :51:42.know about. Everyone wants to know exactly what the issues will be.

:51:43. > :51:48.What it will mean for the future. What it will mean for the politics,

:51:49. > :52:00.the economy, the future. And you ready? -- agree? It has been an

:52:01. > :52:02.extraordinarily day-to-day. David Cameron, Ed Miliband, they have

:52:03. > :52:08.abandoned Prime Minister's Questions. It is so close. People

:52:09. > :52:15.who have not been engaging up until the last couple of weeks on a

:52:16. > :52:20.completely immersed. I was in my local pub, and the kind of

:52:21. > :52:29.discussion that I thought was going to lead to fistycuffs. That would

:52:30. > :52:33.not have happened six months ago. People are truly engaged.

:52:34. > :52:55.Extraordinary. Our thanks style articles? -- Are things still as

:52:56. > :53:03.close? We have released a new poll. 53 no, 47 Yes. It is too close for

:53:04. > :53:11.me to want to give you a prediction. I think two possible scenarios. This

:53:12. > :53:18.scenario which no are hoping for, it has got very close, that Yes had

:53:19. > :53:30.taken the lead but now it is moving back towards no. Also, a second

:53:31. > :53:33.possible scenario, a quiet confidence in the Yes campaign. They

:53:34. > :53:48.have been very restrained over the last couple of days. Quiet than you

:53:49. > :54:00.would have expected. Possibly a sign that private polls CV could be a

:54:01. > :54:05.hit. -- say they could be ahead. I think the most important thing will

:54:06. > :54:12.have been George Osborne's decision to veto a currency union. We do not

:54:13. > :54:18.know what it has achieved yet. That is a big moment in the history of

:54:19. > :54:27.the campaign. I think the most recent pivotal moment was the second

:54:28. > :54:38.leaders debate. That reenergised the Yes campaign. They have come so

:54:39. > :54:48.strongly. Very interesting. We all agree on that. Thank you.

:54:49. > :54:50.Exports are a hugely important part of Scotland's balance sheet.

:54:51. > :54:52.From Scottish Salmon to Aberdeen Angus, we have some huge

:54:53. > :54:56.But do companies feel that independence would boost or

:54:57. > :55:08.Our economics correspondent Colletta Smith has been finding out.

:55:09. > :55:17.Pinpointing the correct market can take a lot of work. This company has

:55:18. > :55:26.a tunnel of just short of ?1 million, and 80% of the clothes

:55:27. > :55:39.remake are sent across the board. We exported to 17 countries. Japan,

:55:40. > :55:46.Korea, Australia. Also I made it up. -- America. Scotland Week get a lift

:55:47. > :55:50.from the extra government support, exporting is big business and in

:55:51. > :55:56.2012 of the exported goods from Scotland were what a total of ?26

:55:57. > :56:14.billion. Since then, the value of exports has been doing. -- growing.

:56:15. > :56:18.From twee to tartan... Textiles is a big selling point. And this woman

:56:19. > :56:29.IDs that independence could boost the overall economy. -- agrees. Some

:56:30. > :56:34.of the technical abilities are being lost and be able to offer that to

:56:35. > :56:39.customers. This is a business opportunity and for Scotland. Every

:56:40. > :56:45.day, thousands of Scottish products are sent to customers across the

:56:46. > :56:51.planet. The level of exports is very important. But real disagreement

:56:52. > :57:03.about what Scottish independence would help or hinder the seal of the

:57:04. > :57:06.Scottish goods. The idea of keeping dry in the outdoors is important and

:57:07. > :57:17.that is how this cycling company markets itself. We have a Scottish

:57:18. > :57:25.identity. Scotland is held with affection across the world. This

:57:26. > :57:32.company think this export business could be harmed by independence.

:57:33. > :57:38.They have the time over ?20 billion, and membership of the European Union

:57:39. > :57:45.is the biggest discussion point. Even if it is for six or 12 months,

:57:46. > :57:57.business does not work. We would be forced to be lucky certain

:57:58. > :58:01.operations. -- relocate. The idea of being made in Scotland matters for

:58:02. > :58:06.most export companies. That does not mean the ugly on Scotland should be

:58:07. > :58:19.stitched to the United Kingdom or not. -- agree. It is a very big deal

:58:20. > :58:28.in the referendum campaign so we will have all of the analysis. Well

:58:29. > :58:37.the visit of the Westminster party we does backfire? Find out at ten

:58:38. > :58:45.o'clock? Let's rejoin Brian Taylor. Another day of developments. Any

:58:46. > :58:50.that were influential? It was a remarkable day, and the remarkable

:58:51. > :59:02.programme. One thing stood out for me. Coming from the city of Dundee.

:59:03. > :59:06.One woman said it would go to the wire. I think that is true. People

:59:07. > :59:15.are intellectually engaged. Emotionally attached. All of these

:59:16. > :59:26.people will use the reader of emotions when they make up your

:59:27. > :59:31.mind. -- use a range of emotions when they make up their mind. We'll

:59:32. > :59:37.be people reflect the doubts from the union or go with the

:59:38. > :59:52.reassurances from Yes? Bet is entirely up to the people. We go to

:59:53. > :59:55.the polls a week tomorrow. And that's Reporting Scotland. Our next

:59:56. > :59:57.main bulletin is just after the ten o'clock news. Until then, from

:59:58. > :59:58.everyone on the team - right across the country - have a very good

:59:59. > :00:00.evening.