:00:00. > 3:59:59sunshine but the risk of a shower later this weekend. Thank you. That
:00:00. > :00:00.is A number of banks say they'll move
:00:00. > :00:09.their registered offices to England if there's a yes vote -
:00:10. > :00:12.the First Minister says no jobs will go and accuses Better Together
:00:13. > :00:17.of scaremongering. Dozens of Labour MPs arrive in
:00:18. > :00:20.Scotland to campaign for the union - they're confronted by yes activists
:00:21. > :00:41.who say it's too little too late. We are here because we are better
:00:42. > :00:43.together. Scotland is on the cusp of making history.
:00:44. > :00:46.In an extended programme we'll be looking at the issues and hearing
:00:47. > :00:50.Also on the programme, Tributes are paid to a teenager from Paisley who
:00:51. > :00:57.died after being hit by a car at a supermarket petrol station.
:00:58. > :01:00.And Rangers fans are to be balloted on whether to boycott home matches
:01:01. > :01:14.in protest at the way the club's being run.
:01:15. > :01:17.Good evening. With less than a week until polling stations open across
:01:18. > :01:21.both sides in the referendum debate have been disagreeing over costs and
:01:22. > :01:27.prices in an independent Scotland. The financial institutions RBS,
:01:28. > :01:32.Lloyds and Clydesdale said they'd all consider moving their registered
:01:33. > :01:34.headquarters from here to London if there's a yes vote. But the
:01:35. > :01:37.Scottish government said this is merely a technical procedure, and
:01:38. > :01:40.would be eased if there were a currency union. Here's our business
:01:41. > :01:54.They are some of the country's biggest banks, and they could be on
:01:55. > :01:59.the move. To date, RBS, Lloyds TSB, and Clydesdale set out their plans
:02:00. > :02:04.to deal with the consequences of a yes vote. In a statement, RBS said
:02:05. > :02:09.that if Scotland votes for independence, it would be necessary
:02:10. > :02:15.to move the bank's holding company and its primary operating company to
:02:16. > :02:18.England. At the same time, it insists that it has no intentions of
:02:19. > :02:25.moving its operations or thousands of jobs which are based. Meanwhile,
:02:26. > :02:27.Lloyds TSB and Clydesdale said they were considering moving their
:02:28. > :02:32.registered office is to England if there is a yes vote next week. I
:02:33. > :02:38.would like to be clear that this is a technical procedure and it is not
:02:39. > :02:42.our intention to move operations and jobs, and the technical issues could
:02:43. > :02:45.be resolved by establishing a currency union between an
:02:46. > :02:50.independent Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom, and the only
:02:51. > :02:54.obstacle to that is the posturing of the United Kingdom political
:02:55. > :02:59.parties. RBS was bailed out during the financial crisis, and is now
:03:00. > :03:02.mostly owned by the UK Government. Today, the man who ordered that
:03:03. > :03:07.rescue operation, Gordon Brown, warned of the potential damage if
:03:08. > :03:14.the banks now choose to move. Standard Life has said jobs would be
:03:15. > :03:19.lost in Scotland, and I say to Alex Salmond, you can try to dismiss some
:03:20. > :03:26.of the warnings, some of the time, but you cannot dismiss all of the
:03:27. > :03:31.warnings all of the time. The row over the economy has taken centre
:03:32. > :03:34.stage in the referendum debate. Yesterday, Standard Life warned it
:03:35. > :03:39.might move operations south, if there is a yes vote. To date, the
:03:40. > :03:43.head of a leading investment group said an independent Scotland would
:03:44. > :03:49.be a big success. I have said many times I think Scotland will be a
:03:50. > :03:53.success, whether it is in the United Kingdom or not. It is really now up
:03:54. > :04:00.to the people of Scotland to decide which way they want to go. So far,
:04:01. > :04:01.the banks have only made plans. Much depends on the outcome of next
:04:02. > :04:06.week's vote. And David Henderson is
:04:07. > :04:09.in central Edinburgh for us now. A lot's been said
:04:10. > :04:10.about contingency plans and what happens to jobs and capital
:04:11. > :04:27.in an independent Scotlan, what can We have now seen hundreds of
:04:28. > :04:31.businesses, some small, some large, weighing into the independence
:04:32. > :04:37.debate. There has been vocal support for both sides in the debate, but
:04:38. > :04:43.what we are reminded by these latest interventions is that businesses are
:04:44. > :04:47.a bit like people, each and every one of them will approach this
:04:48. > :04:52.issue, will approach the independence referendum, with one
:04:53. > :04:57.question in mind, how does it affect them, how does it affect their
:04:58. > :05:01.shareholders and their customers? The boss of Aberdeen Asset
:05:02. > :05:05.Management, a global company which invests right around the world, has
:05:06. > :05:14.said he is relaxed about the prospect of independence, whereas
:05:15. > :05:22.RBS, Lloyds TSB, and Clydesdale much less so. The fear how they will be
:05:23. > :05:28.affected. They are also reflecting the mood of their stakeholders, and
:05:29. > :05:34.because RBS and Lloyds TSB are largely owned by the taxpayer and
:05:35. > :05:38.the UK Government, as a result, they are of reflecting where they stand
:05:39. > :05:44.on all sorts of issues, and are much more sensitive to these unresolved
:05:45. > :05:47.political issues, currency, tax, wings which are still up for grabs
:05:48. > :05:51.and opera negotiation, if there is a yes vote next week.
:05:52. > :05:53.Some of the big retailers have been having their say.
:05:54. > :06:06.An intervention today from John Lewis and also from Asda. They have
:06:07. > :06:11.issued a warning about the disruption to business and the
:06:12. > :06:17.prospect of costs and costs changing for Scottish customers. Asda have
:06:18. > :06:24.ringed the alarm bell. They operate 61 stores and serve around 2 million
:06:25. > :06:31.customers every week, and their boss has said that they are set up for
:06:32. > :06:36.one market, with one currency, and the same attack system, and if that
:06:37. > :06:40.changes over time, it is inevitable that that will lead to extra costs.
:06:41. > :06:46.That was his warning. That said, the BBC has learned that the Prime
:06:47. > :06:50.Minister has been pressing supermarket bosses over the past 24
:06:51. > :06:55.hours to speak out on this issue, and it may be the reason why it Asda
:06:56. > :07:01.have intervened now, but it will also be the reason why many yes and
:07:02. > :07:02.pain will say that this a political intervention and therefore can be
:07:03. > :07:06.discounted. In today's campaigning, the
:07:07. > :07:08.First Minister Alex Salmond claimed Scotland was on the cusp of making
:07:09. > :07:11.history by voting for independence. But Labour's Jim Murphy predicted
:07:12. > :07:14.a silent majority of voters would Our political correspondent,
:07:15. > :07:31.Glenn Campbell's been Arriving at Glasgow Central,
:07:32. > :07:35.Labour's referendum express, each remote of MPs from across Britain,
:07:36. > :07:41.helping the parties fight back against the campaign for
:07:42. > :07:52.independence. Rebel elements from the Yes campaign hailed their
:07:53. > :07:54.arrival. Scott ginned is unquestionably better together, but
:07:55. > :08:00.this is also an emotional issue, about how we have all benefited from
:08:01. > :08:04.being part of the union. They gathered by the statue of Donald
:08:05. > :08:10.Dewar, who led Scotland to devolution, to make their case for a
:08:11. > :08:19.no vote. A vote for now is a vote for stronger powers, for a stronger
:08:20. > :08:30.Scotland. A yes vote is a vote for a huge risk, risk to jobs, to the
:08:31. > :08:35.currency, and to the NHS. At times, Yes campaign is completed with
:08:36. > :08:39.Labour for attention. The quiet speech to majority are starting to
:08:40. > :08:43.stand up and be counted, and we will win next week, and we will not allow
:08:44. > :08:49.the noisy nationalist rabble to get their way. Meanwhile, in Edinburgh,
:08:50. > :08:55.one of the architects of devolution lent his support to the independence
:08:56. > :09:05.campaign. I believe the powerful, the politicians, will say no, but I
:09:06. > :09:09.believe the people will say yes. He was addressing the international
:09:10. > :09:13.media, 17 years to the date that Scotland said yes to the current
:09:14. > :09:17.Scottish parliament. The First Minister said that Scotland was now
:09:18. > :09:21.ready to vote for independence. Scotland is on the cusp of making
:09:22. > :09:30.history. The eyes of the world are upon Scotland. What the world is
:09:31. > :09:36.seeing is an to, peaceful, energise debate. Scotland will vote yes next
:09:37. > :09:42.Thursday. There were questions on everything from Ukraine to our
:09:43. > :09:47.strikes against ices map and lots on the contingency plans of Scottish
:09:48. > :09:52.banks. Does it not matter if RBS shifts its registered headquarters
:09:53. > :09:55.to London? Quite clearly, we are putting forward a proposition where
:09:56. > :09:59.these contingencies would be unnecessary. He said that banks
:10:00. > :10:03.would not need to relocate if the English government dropped its
:10:04. > :10:10.opposition to a currency union -- UK Government. For 300 years we have
:10:11. > :10:13.been told what to do and how to do it, and how we should behave, and we
:10:14. > :10:18.have had enough of it, and that is what this is about, and we are
:10:19. > :10:25.saying now. We want to take our own destiny in our own hands. Almost 4
:10:26. > :10:29.million people have registered to vote in the referendum. That is a
:10:30. > :10:30.record number, and at Hollywood the getting ready to welcome the
:10:31. > :10:39.world's media to watch the result. Our political editor Brian Taylor
:10:40. > :10:42.is in Glasgow for us tonight. Brian, will
:10:43. > :10:43.the financial debates we've heard today, some of it quite complicated,
:10:44. > :10:49.actually impact on voters? I think they have an impact, the
:10:50. > :10:54.question is the extent of the impact, and the extent they are
:10:55. > :10:58.discounted by the people who are registered to vote in this quite
:10:59. > :11:04.remarkable referendum will stop the expectation on the Yes campaign site
:11:05. > :11:12.is that voters will discount a lot of the noise from the banks, in
:11:13. > :11:16.which huge trust is not placed. On the other side, they know that
:11:17. > :11:22.voters don't necessarily absorb every single detail, perhaps it
:11:23. > :11:25.comes across in a generic sense as being a source of anxiety, a source
:11:26. > :11:30.of concern, and therefore an argument for a no vote. You heard
:11:31. > :11:37.there, the two sides of the argument, the sense of doubt from
:11:38. > :11:44.one side, and the deliberate echoing of a phrase about empowerment and
:11:45. > :11:49.the voice of the people. This wall, is structure that is being
:11:50. > :11:52.constructed in Downing Street? The suggestion is that the comments made
:11:53. > :11:56.by the supermarkets follow a meeting at Downing Street between the Prime
:11:57. > :12:02.Minister and supermarket leaders. Alex Salmond has seized upon that.
:12:03. > :12:05.Downing Street Inc has said that was a scheduled meeting and Scotland was
:12:06. > :12:14.not mentioned. When Mr Salmond was not impressed by that. Mr Salmond
:12:15. > :12:20.believes that the information about RBS was deliberately leaked to the
:12:21. > :12:24.BBC, in order to stir up anxiety. He has invited the BBC to cooperate,
:12:25. > :12:29.and they have said that they will cooperate with an enquiry. They have
:12:30. > :12:30.said they were using normal journalistic methods, and standing
:12:31. > :12:32.by their story. To debate these issues I was joined
:12:33. > :12:35.here earlier by Dennis Canavan, chairman of Yes Scotland,
:12:36. > :12:37.and businessman John Boyle And when I say "debate", well,
:12:38. > :12:40.that's putting it mildly. I started by asking Mr Boyle
:12:41. > :12:43.if it was unionist politicians contributing to uncertainty
:12:44. > :12:59.by opposing a currency union. Nothing could be further from. In
:13:00. > :13:04.the last couple of days we have had almost an avalanche of economic
:13:05. > :13:10.alarm, you cannot dispute the facts. I think that Alex Salmond and
:13:11. > :13:19.John Swinney can't dance around their briefcases any longer.
:13:20. > :13:23.Companies like the RBS, and the Clydesdale here in Glasgow have said
:13:24. > :13:28.that they will relocate their headquarters. In the case of the
:13:29. > :13:31.Clydesdale to Bradford. That is not a technical matter. When you move
:13:32. > :13:35.your headquarters, you move control of your business into England, and
:13:36. > :13:40.that is your tax point. In one simple way, all of those banks who
:13:41. > :13:45.have paid billions of pounds of taxes to the United Kingdom, which
:13:46. > :13:50.Scotland get a share, that would be lost to Scotland. My point is they
:13:51. > :13:53.feel they have two bits these contingency arrangements in place,
:13:54. > :14:23.because of the financial uncertainty created by the facts... We are going
:14:24. > :14:32.to lose billions of pounds in tax. This is not scaremongering. This is
:14:33. > :14:34.just exactly... There can be no distancing ourselves from this, it
:14:35. > :14:39.is an economic reality that we have got to face. It is not about
:14:40. > :14:43.uncertainty, it is a factual state of affairs. People are worried about
:14:44. > :14:49.their mortgages and pensions. Are they not right to be? People are
:14:50. > :14:54.worried, but let's put this into perspective. We have seen a lot of
:14:55. > :14:59.this irresponsible scaremongering before. We saw it at the time of the
:15:00. > :15:04.1979 referendum, and we saw at the time of the 1997 referendum, all the
:15:05. > :15:08.prophets of doom and gloom saying that the sky was going to fall in.
:15:09. > :15:13.None of that happened. The Scottish economy flourished since
:15:14. > :15:17.demolition, and I think with more economic powers, and more powers for
:15:18. > :15:27.business, it would in fact make business even more successful. This
:15:28. > :15:30.business about changing the headquarters, George Mathieson, who
:15:31. > :15:37.is a former chairman and chief executive of the RBS has pointed out
:15:38. > :15:40.very accurately that this is simply a matter of changing the brass plate
:15:41. > :15:51.from Edinburgh down to London. It is. One at a time. It is not going
:15:52. > :15:53.to shift operations. Jobs will stay in Edinburgh Edinburgh Rock workers
:15:54. > :16:10.are seen to be more competitive, more efficient, and staff costs are
:16:11. > :16:16.more superior. They will pay their taxes in London. Scotland will not
:16:17. > :16:20.get a share of that revenue. We are not scaremongering. This will not
:16:21. > :16:28.happen overnight. A shortish period of time, jobs will move to England.
:16:29. > :16:33.Not only that, but the tax base will erode, and you cannot avoid the fact
:16:34. > :16:38.that it is not a brass plate, it is not a technical thing. In the words
:16:39. > :16:42.of taxation, it is management and control. Your tax point is where you
:16:43. > :16:45.manage your control, and that is where your headquarters are, and
:16:46. > :16:50.that will mean there will be no taxes for Scotland and you will lose
:16:51. > :16:55.jobs. Fact. You cannot avoid economic reality. In an independent
:16:56. > :16:58.Scotland it will be up to the Scottish Parliament to determine the
:16:59. > :17:01.tax resume in which Scotland operates, including the taxation of
:17:02. > :17:08.financial operations which take place in Scotland.
:17:09. > :17:13.I would have the tax evasion which is taking place left, right and
:17:14. > :17:20.centre, because of the mismanagement of the UK... You will not have, if
:17:21. > :17:24.we vote yes, and become a separate and disengaged nation, they will not
:17:25. > :17:32.be a single bank headquartered in Scotland. Fact. Absolute nonsense.
:17:33. > :17:37.The bank of Scotland, Clydesdale bank of Royal Bank Of Scotland have
:17:38. > :17:42.said they are moving. Can I just ask you this. These are contingency
:17:43. > :17:48.plans. Presumably, if there is no formal monetary union. But that's
:17:49. > :17:53.not to say there's not going to be a formal monetary union, does it? We
:17:54. > :17:57.don't know this. You know as a fact, when the governor of the Bank of
:17:58. > :18:02.England, and the head of a particular parties say it is
:18:03. > :18:06.strategically impossible to have monetary union when you control the
:18:07. > :18:13.taxes, the interest rates... He said no such thing. It is an illusion. It
:18:14. > :18:16.will not happen. It is not scaremongering but an economic
:18:17. > :18:22.fact. You don't understand the difference between a currency union
:18:23. > :18:28.and fiscal union. I certainly do. No you don't. You can determine, within
:18:29. > :18:34.Scotland, whole range of taxation measures including measures to help
:18:35. > :18:38.business and might help workers because I'm concerned that this
:18:39. > :18:43.debate should not simply be about big businessman like yourself, but
:18:44. > :18:51.about workers rights. I want to see more work opportunities. Can I ask
:18:52. > :18:57.you this? Look at the workers faces whose jobs will be relocated to
:18:58. > :19:01.Bradford when Clydesdale Bank moves. I'm not about business but about the
:19:02. > :19:07.economic prosperity of Scotland. I agree with you about the taxation. I
:19:08. > :19:18.would come down upon Amazon, the people who avoid taxes. So do not
:19:19. > :19:21.lump me in with that. I am looking after the jobs, Scottish jobs. You
:19:22. > :19:25.will have an exodus of jobs and whether you like it or not because
:19:26. > :19:30.companies are going to have to relocate to England. Let him
:19:31. > :19:35.answer. You must think the working class of Scotland are stupid because
:19:36. > :19:38.hundreds of thousands, more and more including traditional Labour
:19:39. > :19:44.supporters and trade unionists coming over to our side. Why?
:19:45. > :19:48.Because they want social justice, job security, trade union rights, a
:19:49. > :19:54.fairer Scotland, and more prosperous Scotland, but also instead of
:19:55. > :19:59.spending billions of pounds on things like Trident and cutting
:20:00. > :20:06.benefits. I am passionately for workers rights, I am very pro-trade
:20:07. > :20:11.unions, I am committed to all that. What I am not committed to is the
:20:12. > :20:17.whole level of uncertainty which will jeopardise Scotland. Tell
:20:18. > :20:22.Alistair Darling to stop this nonsense about refusing to face up
:20:23. > :20:28.to the reality of a currency union. There is not a possibility in the
:20:29. > :20:33.history of the universe, when you have the bank of England Governor
:20:34. > :20:39.and all three parties saying... He said nothing of the sort. You are
:20:40. > :20:42.distorting things. You can't dance around your briefcase. That is what
:20:43. > :20:50.Alex Salmond has been doing. A currency union is not possible...
:20:51. > :21:00.Yes, it is. England would dictate interest rates. A currency union is
:21:01. > :21:03.possible. And the Governor of the Bank of England said it wasn't
:21:04. > :21:12.compatible with sovereignty. As viable currency union, what is most
:21:13. > :21:19.important today has happened, Britain's most respected retailer,
:21:20. > :21:24.John Lewis, backed up by Asda, just today, have also said what is going
:21:25. > :21:29.to happen, you will have a situation where prices in Scotland invariably
:21:30. > :21:36.will rise. Nonsense. Tesco said the opposite. Gentlemen, this has been a
:21:37. > :21:41.fascinating debate. Thank you both very much indeed. I didn't have very
:21:42. > :21:44.much to do there at all, but it was right to hear the argument on both
:21:45. > :21:51.sides. Thank you very much for joining us. Believe it or not, the
:21:52. > :21:54.pair of them went off practically hand-in-hand and very happily.
:21:55. > :21:56.All this week, our roving referendum correspondent
:21:57. > :21:59.has been dispatched to different parts of the country to speak to
:22:00. > :22:13.This is the Stirling University campus, an oasis of calm compared to
:22:14. > :22:18.your studio, Sally. This city could be an interesting one to watch on
:22:19. > :22:22.the night. Yes campaigners feel confident about what they are
:22:23. > :22:25.hearing your doorsteps but Better Together campaigners say they are
:22:26. > :22:30.also hearing some good things about what it might mean for them so an
:22:31. > :22:33.interesting one to watch. With me as a man who's been looking through his
:22:34. > :22:36.crystal ball trying to figure out what Scotland might look like in 20
:22:37. > :22:43.year's time. You have held a conference to discuss what it might
:22:44. > :22:48.look like. Why do that? I have been obsessed with the debate. I realised
:22:49. > :22:52.a few months ago that I was going to miss it and they will be the
:22:53. > :22:56.Star-Ledger full spit it winds make most of the time, but I will miss
:22:57. > :23:02.the sheer excitement of it. I thought to myself, how will I look
:23:03. > :23:09.back on this? How will the rest of Scottish society look back on a
:23:10. > :23:14.historic moment? So what did you find? What were the key things which
:23:15. > :23:19.came out of it? We have two days looking at both outcomes. There was
:23:20. > :23:23.an extraordinary imagination which went into a whole bunch of talks
:23:24. > :23:29.examining in a science-fiction way on how we might look back 20 is
:23:30. > :23:36.later. The most memorable section was a piece of youth Theatre from
:23:37. > :23:40.BBC Scotland where first-time voters imagine themselves, my age, in their
:23:41. > :23:45.mid-30s, looking back on this, and they came up with some extraordinary
:23:46. > :23:50.insights. I was thinking about them this week because, even in the two
:23:51. > :23:59.weeks since this event, the debate feels very different. You say it
:24:00. > :24:02.feels more intense? Not only that, but not only young voters,
:24:03. > :24:07.first-time voters, people are not usually engaged in politics, have
:24:08. > :24:12.been encouraged by it. They have been seriously engaged to start
:24:13. > :24:20.asking questions. Scotland has a choice. Scotland does not decide but
:24:21. > :24:23.the market decides. Captains of finance will decide what we are
:24:24. > :24:30.allowed to choose and I think about those young people. Thanks,
:24:31. > :24:33.obviously one opinion there but what I can tell you is the polls have
:24:34. > :24:38.suggested certainly over the last few weeks but older voters are
:24:39. > :24:45.perhaps more difficult to convince as part of the Yes Campaign. I went
:24:46. > :24:50.into the gymnasium to find out if that was true here at the
:24:51. > :24:54.university. These are young at heart enjoying the retirement, some are
:24:55. > :25:00.watching the referendum debate eagerly, others anxiously. James
:25:01. > :25:06.Robertson feels it's time for change. My main reason for voting
:25:07. > :25:12.yes is a bit like the way Britain is going. I don't like government
:25:13. > :25:18.getting your not voting for. He says many of his friends are more
:25:19. > :25:21.fearful. They are persuaded by the negatives and there's a subtle
:25:22. > :25:28.advertising campaign to make people feel anxious. If you generate
:25:29. > :25:33.anxiety, people will say, how do I get out of this anxiety? If they
:25:34. > :25:38.vote no, the anxiety would go away. Others say it's more to do with
:25:39. > :25:40.facts. The yes campaign and not answered any of the questions
:25:41. > :25:45.factually. We need figures to make up my mind and I've already made up
:25:46. > :25:51.my mind. There have been no answers on currency, pensions, defence, take
:25:52. > :25:57.away Faslane and billions of pounds of costs which somebody has got to
:25:58. > :26:03.pay for at the end, so that is why I am a firm no. This MP believes last
:26:04. > :26:11.few days have been better for the No Campaign. I'm talking about the
:26:12. > :26:16.referendum. She says older voters are not just worried by the Roman
:26:17. > :26:20.future. Many older voters are also interested in what it means for
:26:21. > :26:26.their children and grandchildren. What we have also found, though, is
:26:27. > :26:32.that young voters are realising that this is not for them. An army of
:26:33. > :26:41.foot soldiers work their way through this estate in Bannockburn, feeling
:26:42. > :26:47.confident. This area is home to the former Labour MP and chairman. This
:26:48. > :26:55.issue transcends party politics. I am asking people to vote for a
:26:56. > :27:01.better Scotland. Yes, a more prosperous Scotland, and, above all,
:27:02. > :27:05.a fairer Scotland. Over 40% of voters backed Labour at the last
:27:06. > :27:08.general election. A year later, the SNP grabbed a seat of them in the
:27:09. > :27:13.Holyrood elections. Having been the scene of many major independent
:27:14. > :27:18.battles in Scotland, Stirling could be so again in one weeks time. We
:27:19. > :27:23.will be back in the next half an hour and I'll be speaking to
:27:24. > :27:27.campaigners from both sides. Thanks very much, Laura.
:27:28. > :27:29.You're watching Reporting Scotland from the BBC.
:27:30. > :27:30.Still to come on tonight's programme.
:27:31. > :27:32.A central topic of the independence debate over the
:27:33. > :27:36.decades but just how much of a role does oil still play in the debate?
:27:37. > :27:39.And would Scotland's Olympic athletes be in Team GB or a new
:27:40. > :27:49.Team Scotland at Rio in 2016 if there's a Yes vote?
:27:50. > :27:51.The trial of a Midlothian man accused of
:27:52. > :27:54.murdering his wife and son has begun at the High Court in Edinburgh.
:27:55. > :27:57.33-year-old Garry Lockhart has admitted killing Janet Lockhart
:27:58. > :28:00.and two-year-old Michael in December last year.
:28:01. > :28:04.He offered a guilty plea to murdering his wife and the culpable
:28:05. > :28:07.homicide of his son, on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
:28:08. > :28:22.Janet Lockhart should have been celebrating his 30th birthday
:28:23. > :28:28.tomorrow. Instead, her body and the body of her two-year-old son were
:28:29. > :28:30.found in a bedroom at their home. The court also heard how Garry
:28:31. > :28:37.Lockhart had sent a letter to a former colleague from prison and
:28:38. > :28:41.part of that letter said, "what I did is terrible. I snapped. I wish I
:28:42. > :28:47.hadn't been drunk that night. It would not have happened." The court
:28:48. > :28:51.heard how he described his son as the perfect son, and is only thought
:28:52. > :28:56.after Janet died was for them to be with her. When officers arrived at
:28:57. > :29:02.the scene they found a note saying, "how could I kill Janet and
:29:03. > :29:11.Michael? They were my life and I love them. Court her family sobbed
:29:12. > :29:14.as I had the evidence and her family told the court, one manager of a
:29:15. > :29:16.daughter and grandson, the next minute, you have neither. -- one
:29:17. > :29:25.minute. The trial continues. Police are still investigating
:29:26. > :29:27.the precise details of what happened when a 17-year-old girl
:29:28. > :29:30.died after being hit by a car at The family of Eilish Herron from
:29:31. > :29:45.Paisley described her as a lovely Flowers laid today by friends and
:29:46. > :29:50.family of Eilish Herron struggling to believe she died yesterday here
:29:51. > :29:55.at this busy petrol station in Linwood. A special message from a
:29:56. > :29:59.netball team mates. She was passionate about netball, playing
:30:00. > :30:02.and coaching younger girls, her dedication recognised in this film
:30:03. > :30:10.made when she won the Young sportsperson of the year 2013. If
:30:11. > :30:17.you are interested in sport or want to get fit, such a good sport.
:30:18. > :30:22.Police say they are still investigating exactly what happened
:30:23. > :30:26.here yesterday afternoon. Eilish died as she was filling up her car
:30:27. > :30:29.with petrol, hit by a car would have been filling up at the pump in front
:30:30. > :30:34.of her. And then apparently suddenly reversed. The driver of that car,
:30:35. > :30:38.were said to be elderly, is not hurt and today ASDA issued a statement
:30:39. > :30:44.describing it as a tragic accident and passing on their sympathies to
:30:45. > :30:54.the family involved. In a statement today, her family said: She had so
:30:55. > :30:58.much to live for and we will miss her terribly. The 17-year-old left
:30:59. > :31:03.Saint Andrews Academy in Paisley in the summer passing a driving test
:31:04. > :31:06.couple of weeks ago. The headteacher said today that Eilish had been a
:31:07. > :31:12.great role model and her death is a tragic loss.
:31:13. > :31:14.The new owner of Ferguson Shipbuilder has started to
:31:15. > :31:16.re-hire staff who were made redundant when the Port Glasgow yard
:31:17. > :31:20.Clyde Blowers Capital chairman Jim McColl said 30
:31:21. > :31:23.of the 70 people who had been laid off were now back at work.
:31:24. > :31:50.Getting back to work. To date, said -- today, 30 of the 70 workers were
:31:51. > :31:55.brought back to work. He says there is a real opportunity to rebuild the
:31:56. > :31:58.business. I thought it was a shame to see the last commercial shipyard
:31:59. > :32:04.go into administration. I think we have the skills to build this into a
:32:05. > :32:06.successful business. We have done it before, and that is where I get my
:32:07. > :32:15.enjoyment out of. Seeing businesses like this build back up. Good brand
:32:16. > :32:19.names, fantastic heritage, and a fabulous future. This is a far cry
:32:20. > :32:24.from the picture here last month. Just four weeks ago, workers. They
:32:25. > :32:28.were never coming back. It is 100% better. Everyone was at a low when
:32:29. > :32:38.it happened. It was on a Friday morning. It is great news. Mr Kohl
:32:39. > :32:45.spoke to was for half an hour this morning -- Mr McColl. We are all
:32:46. > :32:52.looking forward to the future. He plans initially to invest nearly ?8
:32:53. > :32:56.million here, perhaps up to 60 million in the future. He aims to
:32:57. > :32:59.grow the business. He will continue shipbuilding but also sees
:33:00. > :33:04.opportunities in manufacturing and the oil and gas industries. There
:33:05. > :33:11.may not be much activity here at the yard to date, but by November, there
:33:12. > :33:18.will be 80 people working here, and by early next year, over 100, and in
:33:19. > :33:24.the next three to five years, the workforce here will have quadrupled.
:33:25. > :33:25.The new owner says that, with investment, he is confident that the
:33:26. > :33:28.orders will keep coming. Rangers fans could be about to
:33:29. > :33:34.boycott their club's home matches. Recent controversies
:33:35. > :33:37.including the news that naming rights at Ibrox have been sold for
:33:38. > :33:41.?1, have led to one supporters trust saying it will ballot their members
:33:42. > :33:45.on staying away from home games. And as Phil Goodlad reports they
:33:46. > :33:59.want more fans to follow suit: It win tomorrow night, and Rangers
:34:00. > :34:05.will be top of the championship. The focus yet again is on matters off
:34:06. > :34:08.the field. It emerged recently that the naming rights at Ibrox had been
:34:09. > :34:13.sold for ?1, and that the director had been Richard with a businessman
:34:14. > :34:19.who was wanted by Interpol. Some funds are now calling for a boycott
:34:20. > :34:23.of the club. If we feel that the feedback we are getting and the
:34:24. > :34:26.amount people are asking is that action is going to be well
:34:27. > :34:34.supported, then we would have too, as a group that has members, react
:34:35. > :34:42.to those wishes. 1500 fans make up these clubs. ?450,000 for the rest
:34:43. > :34:49.of the season. The group wants other fans to join them, at a time when
:34:50. > :34:52.Rangers are looking to raise ?4 million of working capital. The fans
:34:53. > :34:58.have given these people 100,000 season tickets over three years, so
:34:59. > :35:03.for anyone to suggest that Rangers fans, if a boycott, are in anyway
:35:04. > :35:08.trying to drive that filename in the Coffin, they are looking in the
:35:09. > :35:12.wrong place. The BBC asked Rangers to comment, but they have declined
:35:13. > :35:14.to do so. The fans anger is nothing new. Boycotting matches is a very
:35:15. > :35:15.different type of protest. When a club like Celtic comes
:35:16. > :35:18.calling, you don't say no - that's the view of the club's
:35:19. > :35:21.newest acquisition, John Guidetti. FIFA allowed
:35:22. > :35:23.the Swedish striker to complete his season-long deal - on loan from
:35:24. > :35:26.Manchester City after the transfer deadline, but he's reluctant to be
:35:27. > :35:44.likened to his countryman, I think it is very harsh to be
:35:45. > :35:49.compared to someone like Henrik Larsson, because what he did was
:35:50. > :35:50.amazing, and I can do just a small toenail of what he did, it would be
:35:51. > :35:53.amazing. Scotland's Olympians could face
:35:54. > :35:55.the choice of switching to a new Team Scotland
:35:56. > :35:58.or remaining part of Team GB if An independent report commissioned
:35:59. > :36:03.by the Scottish government found there would be no obvious barriers
:36:04. > :36:19.to Scotland fielding an Olympic The Scotland fans in Germany this
:36:20. > :36:24.week, proving that sometimes sport and politics can mix. The debate is
:36:25. > :36:37.everywhere, including the locker room. If it is a yes vote, the
:36:38. > :36:42.athletes would have a choice to make. If Scotland became
:36:43. > :36:45.independent, I would imagine I would be playing for Scotland. I haven't
:36:46. > :36:52.got that much about it, because I don't think it is looking to likely.
:36:53. > :36:56.That was last week, and the indications are it may be close.
:36:57. > :37:01.What might the applications be? Sport such as football and rugby
:37:02. > :37:04.will largely be unaffected. They are already recognised internationally
:37:05. > :37:08.through their governing bodies, but here on the track and in other
:37:09. > :37:14.Olympic disciplines the change may be felt. It is an issue being taken
:37:15. > :37:19.very seriously in Scotland. Sport is unlikely to polarise opinion the way
:37:20. > :37:23.other issues have in this debate, but historically it has provided a
:37:24. > :37:29.platform for Scottish people to celebrate their identity. This is a
:37:30. > :37:32.point underlined this year at the Commonwealth Games. Scotland hailed
:37:33. > :37:38.new heroes, but could they keep them if the vote is yes? For Scotland to
:37:39. > :37:42.stay as part of the UK programme, switching to a Scottish setup would
:37:43. > :37:45.be too much of a gamble. Scotland isn't able to provide as with the
:37:46. > :37:52.funding and facilities we need to compete at this level, and if
:37:53. > :37:57.Scotland think that they will be able to do that, then why have they
:37:58. > :38:00.not done it up until now? One man who has plied his trade in both
:38:01. > :38:04.England and Scotland doesn't think the funding facilities argument is
:38:05. > :38:09.valid. Nobody talks about the fact that other athletes train in
:38:10. > :38:14.America. The money goes where the talent is. We have the talent here,
:38:15. > :38:17.and we already pay for these things through the national lottery, and
:38:18. > :38:22.there is no suggestion that athletes would not be able to use bases and
:38:23. > :38:28.facilities in another country. Britain's greatest ever Olympian Sir
:38:29. > :38:33.Chris Hoy triumphed under two flags. If the country vote "yes",
:38:34. > :38:37.Scotland's new heroes will have two nail their colours to the mast. That
:38:38. > :38:39.is all from the sport. Let's see how
:38:40. > :38:58.the weather is shaping up. It was 22 Celsius today. This
:38:59. > :39:04.evening, some late sunshine to enjoy it, but those clear skies do mean an
:39:05. > :39:07.early dip in temperature tonight. Up to midnight, and from midnight
:39:08. > :39:15.onwards the mist and fog will develop. More widespread than last
:39:16. > :39:22.night. Temperatures in town, double digits, in the countryside, somewhat
:39:23. > :39:26.cooler. Mist and fog will take a little longer to lift concurred with
:39:27. > :39:31.this morning. The day will be dry once again, with variable amounts of
:39:32. > :39:36.cloud, perhaps more than we have seen today. Having said that, still
:39:37. > :39:41.dry and pleasantly warm. Always a little cooler around the coast.
:39:42. > :39:45.Certainly some thicker cloud or the Western Isles. Inland, some
:39:46. > :39:48.sunshine, some decent spells of sunshine, and cooler and cloudier
:39:49. > :39:53.for the Northern Isles. It should stay dry. The rest of the afternoon
:39:54. > :39:57.and into the evening, staying dry and settled. Some lovely evening
:39:58. > :40:01.sunshine. During the overnight period, if we look at the bigger
:40:02. > :40:05.picture, high pressure continues to hold on, but there will be hardly a
:40:06. > :40:08.breath of wind, and certainly as we had through towards Saturday, it
:40:09. > :40:13.will be another dry day, but more mist and fog clinging on towards the
:40:14. > :40:17.East Coast and up towards the Northern Isles. More cloud towards
:40:18. > :40:24.the north of the country. A slight easterly drift. That is enhanced on
:40:25. > :40:30.Sunday. You can see the tightening isobars. A more easterly wind, that
:40:31. > :40:35.means thicker cloud, and somewhat cooler. The best of the brighter
:40:36. > :40:38.weather towards the south. Still pleasantly warm, with temperatures
:40:39. > :40:40.up towards the high teens. Really rather dry.
:40:41. > :40:48.Back to our extended coverage of the referendum debate.
:40:49. > :40:51.Since it first came ashore in the nineteen seventies, it's been the
:40:52. > :40:53.country's biggest single asset and central to calls for independence.
:40:54. > :40:56.But just how much of a role does oil still play
:40:57. > :40:59.Our Aberdeen reporter Kevin Keane has been looking at some
:41:00. > :41:14.That first trickle will grow, and by 1977, supplies it should amount to
:41:15. > :41:23.at least one quarter of the oil we require as a nation. Since day one,
:41:24. > :41:27.there has been no shortage of predictions about the future of oil.
:41:28. > :41:37.The Queen's assertion was not that far off, with that field accounting
:41:38. > :41:42.for nearly 50% of consumption. Oil is a business that is notoriously
:41:43. > :41:45.difficult to predict. As we have seen recently, there are wide
:41:46. > :41:50.variations in claims about its future. It plays an important role
:41:51. > :41:52.in what lies ahead for Scotland. Perhaps the most helpful way to
:41:53. > :41:59.begin an assessment is with the past. Since 1975, North Sea oil
:42:00. > :42:04.production has grown rapidly. It dipped along with the economic
:42:05. > :42:10.downturn, from around 1989, but then continue to rise. The peak came in
:42:11. > :42:13.1999, and since then, it has been continually falling. Last year,
:42:14. > :42:20.production was at less than one third than the peak level. Oil and
:42:21. > :42:23.gas in the next 30 or 40 years is a massive potential impact on how the
:42:24. > :42:30.Scottish economy does. So what about the future? Sir Ian Wood, a
:42:31. > :42:37.respected oil tycoon, predicted that there is 16 billion barrels of oil
:42:38. > :42:42.left. Oil and gas UK said between 12 and 24 billion barrels. The office
:42:43. > :42:50.of budget responsibility is bidding that at 10 billion barrels. Why such
:42:51. > :42:54.a wide variation? It depends on much. The cost of extracting the
:42:55. > :42:58.oil, whether it is where companies want to place their investments in a
:42:59. > :43:03.worldwide market. You might think, well, if we could actually properly
:43:04. > :43:08.reserve -- resolve any of these factors it could be higher than we
:43:09. > :43:11.currently predict, but it is subject to so many variables, it is
:43:12. > :43:15.impossible, so anyone who says that they can tell you precisely what
:43:16. > :43:21.that number is, is obviously not telling you the truth. So what is it
:43:22. > :43:24.going to be worth? This is an interesting sadistic. When
:43:25. > :43:34.production peaked, the Treasury took in ?3.3 billion. Last year, which
:43:35. > :43:43.must -- much less oil, taxation was higher. On top of that is top -- tax
:43:44. > :43:49.on the supply chain. So what about the future? Well, it is full of
:43:50. > :43:51.contradictions. There are record levels of investment, but
:43:52. > :43:59.exploration is at an all-time low. Addiction is very, but it is an in
:44:00. > :44:03.predictable industry. Forecasts may turn out to be accurate, but they
:44:04. > :44:06.could also be wildly wrong. For the better or for the worse.
:44:07. > :44:08.And Kevin now joins us from the harbour in Aberdeen now.
:44:09. > :44:21.This is the focal point for the industry. At least on the shore.
:44:22. > :44:26.Let's discuss the issues that we mentioned in that report. With two
:44:27. > :44:37.people who work in the industry actively now. They also set on both
:44:38. > :44:42.sides of the debate. Hannah, we have heard over the last few days,
:44:43. > :44:46.interventions from many people, who are all saying that they are
:44:47. > :44:51.supporting the No campaign. Is anybody in the industry supporting
:44:52. > :44:55.the Yes campaign? Absolutely. I deal with a lot of different companies, a
:44:56. > :44:58.lot of people from across the industry, and certainly people I
:44:59. > :45:01.speak to, there is a significant movement to the yes vote, and well
:45:02. > :45:04.we have to respect the views of those companies and those people,
:45:05. > :45:11.British petrol would not have invested so much into our current
:45:12. > :45:18.industry if they did not have confidence. We absolutely believe
:45:19. > :45:21.that there will be an industry in Scotland for 35 years or more. What
:45:22. > :45:24.we really need is stability, and that is not something we have seen
:45:25. > :45:29.from previous governments. We have called first ability. But the
:45:30. > :45:37.transition will not produce stability? I don't see why not. The
:45:38. > :45:40.two governments came together, and they are committed to working
:45:41. > :45:46.together in the event of a yes vote, I think we have to take that at face
:45:47. > :45:50.value. Companies like British petrol operate all over the world, in
:45:51. > :45:54.places like Iraq and Libya, whether our lots of instability and
:45:55. > :45:58.challenges. The industry has seen lots of challenges over the years.
:45:59. > :46:02.Some of these challenges have been caused by the Westminster
:46:03. > :46:10.government. This year, we had a tax charge that is being considered to
:46:11. > :46:14.go against the industry. Clearly the stability they are
:46:15. > :46:18.talking about, the UK Government has created instability over the last
:46:19. > :46:22.year or so because of the tax review. We've heard reports meant
:46:23. > :46:27.that a lot of companies have held off from investing in the North Sea.
:46:28. > :46:32.Is the UK providing stability? We haven't seen anything yet in terms
:46:33. > :46:37.of instability. We are talking about different tax regimes in the North
:46:38. > :46:42.Sea and different regulatory bodies in the North Sea. I work in a
:46:43. > :46:48.production delivery department which is trying to collaborate to get
:46:49. > :46:54.everyone working together, sharing knowledge, and getting a really good
:46:55. > :46:57.collaboration. We want to see more of that between companies as well as
:46:58. > :47:02.within companies and that's not going to happen if we are making
:47:03. > :47:05.these new resumes. It's an international industry and the
:47:06. > :47:10.companies work internationally and they will surely go where the oil
:47:11. > :47:17.is. Yes, but we are crating competition now and that's not
:47:18. > :47:21.something we should be doing. -- creating. You are right about
:47:22. > :47:26.instability. People do want stability in the marketplace. Thank
:47:27. > :47:29.you both very much indeed for joining us. That is the view from
:47:30. > :47:33.within the industry from people who worked in the oil in Aberdeen.
:47:34. > :47:36.Kevin, thanks very much. Of course,
:47:37. > :47:39.September 18th isn't going to be the first time Scotland has gone to the
:47:40. > :47:42.polls to decide how it's governed. We've been here twice
:47:43. > :47:43.before with referendums Julie Peacock has been looking back
:47:44. > :48:06.at the events leading up to Theirs is a debate which has been
:48:07. > :48:13.going on for more than just a few months. In fact, it hasn't even been
:48:14. > :48:17.years, the generations. But let's start with a swinging 60s when the
:48:18. > :48:29.idea of devolution began to gain the meant. Winifred Ewing, 30,000, 397.
:48:30. > :48:36.It was Labour 's safest seat but when Winifred won in 1957, it marked
:48:37. > :48:40.a change in Scottish politics. And then oil was added to the debate.
:48:41. > :48:51.Today is a milestone in the history of this country. An energy producing
:48:52. > :48:57.nation. What will be get from it? When it was discovered off
:48:58. > :49:02.Scotland's coast in 1970, the nationalists saw a surge in support.
:49:03. > :49:06.The SNP has become a force to be reckoned with. The by-election
:49:07. > :49:15.victory gave a hint of things to come. In the general election of
:49:16. > :49:21.October 1974, the SNP returned 11 MPs and took 30% of Scotland's
:49:22. > :49:24.about. Labour 's attitude at the time was ambivalent, some members
:49:25. > :49:30.against the idea, others campaigning for it. But the popularity of the
:49:31. > :49:35.nationalists came to people 's minds. We demand a Scottish
:49:36. > :49:43.assembly. And the Conservatives promised change. A No Vote does not
:49:44. > :49:53.imply a disloyalty to the principle of devolution. It was a Labour
:49:54. > :49:57.government to agree to hold a referendum and a Scottish assembly
:49:58. > :50:02.on the condition 40% of the electorate had to vote in favour for
:50:03. > :50:06.it to become a reality. 40% is a reasonable figure to obtain and if
:50:07. > :50:13.there was not 40% forward, the claims made by the supporters of
:50:14. > :50:18.devolution turn out to be wrong. In March 1979, Scotland went to the
:50:19. > :50:22.polls. We believe in this country of ours, people are adult enough and
:50:23. > :50:28.well-equipped enough to be able to take part in a government of their
:50:29. > :50:34.own affairs. This act was born simply out of a desire to save
:50:35. > :50:37.Labour seats in Scotland. People are consistently said they wanted the
:50:38. > :50:42.sort of devolution we are offering and when it comes to the referendum
:50:43. > :50:45.on March one, we are confident the Scottish people will come out and
:50:46. > :50:50.say they want the act government legislated for. We will go down the
:50:51. > :50:59.motorway to a separate state, the journey from which many of us don't
:51:00. > :51:11.want to embark. 230,937. The result was a majority in favour of
:51:12. > :51:17.devolution. 52% to 48%. Turnout was over 63%, meaning 33% of Scots had
:51:18. > :51:19.voted for a change. We face an interesting but a good situation and
:51:20. > :51:24.great problems for the government after this referendum result. The
:51:25. > :51:29.SNP withdrew their support from Labour and Parliament and the
:51:30. > :51:33.government collapsed. In 1979, Margaret Thatcher's Conservative
:51:34. > :51:36.Party was voted in and it would be another generation before Scotland
:51:37. > :51:39.was asked again how it wanted to be run.
:51:40. > :51:42.Many of the young people eligible to vote in this referendum won't
:51:43. > :51:44.But tonight, BBC Scotland hosts the biggest
:51:45. > :51:47.debate the country has ever seen with up to 8,000 first-time voters.
:51:48. > :52:01.Would a way to go until Scotland side, polls suggest it could go
:52:02. > :52:05.either way. It means the 100,016 and 17-year-olds who have the vote for
:52:06. > :52:11.the first time, could decide next week 's results. The BBC has invited
:52:12. > :52:17.many of them here to the Hydro in Glasgow. This crowd of around 7500
:52:18. > :52:24.young people are coming to question both sides of the independence
:52:25. > :52:32.debate. Nicola Sturgeon, Ruth Davidson, Patrick Harvie and George
:52:33. > :52:38.Galloway who has been campaigning for a No Vote. That is the big
:52:39. > :52:38.debate tonight at 9pm on BBC1 Scotland.
:52:39. > :52:43.CHEERING Let's return to our roving
:52:44. > :52:45.referendum correspondent Laura Bicker who's been in Stirling for
:52:46. > :52:59.us tonight and is still there now. With me are two ladies who tell me
:53:00. > :53:03.one of them can't get their feet into any more high heels because
:53:04. > :53:07.they have been hitting the streets of the campaign. Miriam, you work
:53:08. > :53:13.for the Yes Campaign and have never been involved in politics before so
:53:14. > :53:16.why get involved now? My story is very common, to see people of never
:53:17. > :53:22.been involved in politics, never been a member of the political
:53:23. > :53:25.party, that's my background. I think there are certain appeals to this
:53:26. > :53:32.movement. I was brought to it through issues so much bigger than
:53:33. > :53:37.any one political party, social justice, foreign policy, democracy,
:53:38. > :53:42.elliptical culture and representative of how you can
:53:43. > :53:46.represent a country and their values which binds them together. That's my
:53:47. > :53:51.background. I think that's very common in this movement. Certainly,
:53:52. > :53:55.a lot of people have never been involved in politics before and
:53:56. > :53:59.don't have any intentions of joining a political party because it's so
:54:00. > :54:05.much bigger than that. You have been on the doorsteps for Better
:54:06. > :54:11.Together, but has it become more intense? We've had a lot of intense
:54:12. > :54:18.questions from the start. People are engaged absolutely both from the
:54:19. > :54:22.doorstep interview. We have had many many people on the doorstep coming
:54:23. > :54:27.out with us night after night after night never involved in anything
:54:28. > :54:31.like this before. There was a real movement growing behind the No,
:54:32. > :54:33.Thanks campaign. People are talking about bread-and-butter issues, and
:54:34. > :54:40.there are still some unanswered questions like what currency with
:54:41. > :54:44.their wages and pensions be paid in? They are concerned about the
:54:45. > :54:48.financial markets, what happened over the last couple of days, and
:54:49. > :54:53.when the markets go down, the people who are worst off suffer the most.
:54:54. > :54:57.They are realising we do have the best of both worlds in Scotland, a
:54:58. > :55:01.strong Scottish Parliament which can deliver with new powers on the way,
:55:02. > :55:09.but also the safety of Westminster and the national banking system.
:55:10. > :55:11.Maybe in certain areas on the doorsteps, the Stirling banjo, you
:55:12. > :55:20.might be finding different arguments? Yes, always two sides to
:55:21. > :55:27.every debate. Before you get the general questions, this notion there
:55:28. > :55:31.are too many unanswered questions and now you are seeing more specific
:55:32. > :55:36.questions people engaging in that debate and it's beautiful to see
:55:37. > :55:39.that. Question is personal to them. With young people, a lot of them are
:55:40. > :55:46.speaking about how to be preserved free tuition fees in an independent
:55:47. > :55:50.Scotland? The labour market, how can the enshrined labour rights in the
:55:51. > :55:54.Constitution? We are seeing real engagement and activism on the
:55:55. > :56:02.doorstep and its really inspiring. I think, as well, we are seeing a
:56:03. > :56:09.shift away from the media focus on Alex Salmond, the SNP, nationalism,
:56:10. > :56:14.and has only negative connotations. A lot of people would speak about, I
:56:15. > :56:20.don't like Alex Salmond, the SNP, but what we're seeing now, people
:56:21. > :56:23.see it's bigger than that. You would say something completely different,
:56:24. > :56:27.people talking about Alex Salmond. Yes, but they also talk about
:56:28. > :56:32.bread-and-butter issues. I spoke to a couple of the day, they did not
:56:33. > :56:37.want to take a poster for their windows because they were worried it
:56:38. > :56:43.would get smashed. Their grandson works in Edinburgh and his job is at
:56:44. > :56:46.risk. They want security for the future generations but what the best
:56:47. > :56:53.of both worlds, the things we can deliver as the UK. Thank you both
:56:54. > :56:57.very much. Two different views. The debate in sterling will continue.
:56:58. > :57:02.Tomorrow, you can join me in Elgin. Just before we go tonight, let's
:57:03. > :57:05.return to our political editor Brian Another hectic day
:57:06. > :57:18.on the campaign trail. Tremendously passionate. We had
:57:19. > :57:24.those closing remarks in that discussion, the sense of anxiety.
:57:25. > :57:29.Better Together are seeking to project a positive position, saying
:57:30. > :57:33.the anxiety about finance is a reason to stay with the union and
:57:34. > :57:39.they believe it indicates there will be problems in funding the NHS. That
:57:40. > :57:44.is countered by their opponents. Those images from 1979 were
:57:45. > :57:56.remarkable. I remember that. I do to! What we're hearing from the Yes
:57:57. > :58:01.Scotland, it won't be like 19 97, but 1979, extremely close. They
:58:02. > :58:07.believe sufficient confidence that they can come through and get a Yes
:58:08. > :58:15.Vote. Only the people will decide. The undecided people, briefly, have
:58:16. > :58:20.a job to do. There is a section of those and a spectrum across the
:58:21. > :58:22.whole of Scotland. Thanks very much, Brian Taylor.
:58:23. > :58:42.I'll be back with the headlines at 8.00pm and the late bulletin
:58:43. > :58:47.We have got teams all over the UK. I want this story blown wide open.