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:00:00. > :00:07.The referendum battle over power for the parliament.

:00:08. > :00:10.The three main Westminster parties make another late offer.

:00:11. > :00:13.But supporters of independence say it's a "con",

:00:14. > :00:15.and people should vote Yes to get the powers Scotland needs.

:00:16. > :00:23.With just a day of campaigning left, I'll be joined in the studio by

:00:24. > :00:28.I thought it is absolutely clear that we have a common ground here on

:00:29. > :00:32.new powers, we could get a common ground on a timetable and a common

:00:33. > :00:36.ground on the principles underlying the United Kingdom.

:00:37. > :00:39.If we vote no, we haven't controller Scotland right back to the

:00:40. > :00:43.Westminster attachment, and have deep cross our fingers, hoping for

:00:44. > :00:45.some crumbs from the Westminster table in the form of a few powers

:00:46. > :00:47.here or there. With just a day of campaigning left,

:00:48. > :00:50.I'll be joined in the studio by the First Minister Alex Salmond and

:00:51. > :00:52.Better Together's Alistair Darling for two extended live interviews.

:00:53. > :00:55.Also tonight: The NHS in Scotland is facing

:00:56. > :00:58.a funding gap of more than ?400 million, according to confidential

:00:59. > :01:07.papers passed to the BBC. We have been speaking to voters in

:01:08. > :01:14.Glasgow and the West of Scotland, and we allied here at the Briggait

:01:15. > :01:22.for the last of the BBC debates. Just over 36 hours

:01:23. > :01:26.until polling stations open, and the referendum battle is about

:01:27. > :01:29.whether Scotland needs more devolved Supporters of the union say they're

:01:30. > :01:36.pledging to enhance Holyrood's clout, guaranteeing that MSPs can

:01:37. > :01:39.protect the NHS by increasing income But advocates

:01:40. > :01:44.of independence say it's a "con". This from our political editor

:01:45. > :01:59.Brian Taylor. Turmoil, as a media scrum envelops

:02:00. > :02:04.the Labour leader in Edinburgh. In Clydebank, his predecessor seeks to

:02:05. > :02:08.offer clarity. A deal agreed with the Tories and Liberal Democrats to

:02:09. > :02:12.retain the Barnett Formula, which allocates funding to Scotland. In

:02:13. > :02:16.addition, it has been made absolutely clear that the Scottish

:02:17. > :02:20.Parliament has the powers, if it so wishes to use them, to raise the

:02:21. > :02:24.amount of money spelt on the NHS or any other public service, if they

:02:25. > :02:28.are prepared to go to the Scottish people and ask them to raise the

:02:29. > :02:30.revenue to do so. This nail the Scottish National Party lie that

:02:31. > :02:34.somehow they are powerless to protect the National Health Service.

:02:35. > :02:39.They have always had the power to do so. They will have enhanced power to

:02:40. > :02:43.do so later. They've got even more powers to do so in 2016, and so the

:02:44. > :02:46.future of the NHS and the final allocation of spending to it is in

:02:47. > :02:51.the hands of the Scottish Parliament.

:02:52. > :02:55.But, visiting an engineering firm in Renfrew, independence supporters say

:02:56. > :02:59.the answer is cast iron obvious. Scotland needs full financial

:03:00. > :03:02.powers, not the latest offer from the union side.

:03:03. > :03:06.I think most people in Scotland would refer to it as an attempted

:03:07. > :03:09.con. The only guaranteed way of getting more powers for Scotland,

:03:10. > :03:13.the powers we need to protect public services, create jobs, make sure we

:03:14. > :03:16.never again get Tory governments we didn't vote for, is to vote yes,

:03:17. > :03:21.keep control of the future of this country where it is now, in our own

:03:22. > :03:24.hands. If we vote no, we've hand control of the future of Scotland

:03:25. > :03:28.straight back to the Westminster establishment and have to cross our

:03:29. > :03:31.fingers, hoping for some crumbs from the Westminster table in the form of

:03:32. > :03:36.a new power here or there. That's not good enough. According to

:03:37. > :03:38.Nicola Sturgeon, the union plan would potentially leave Hollywood

:03:39. > :03:44.heavily dependent on income tax, while independence involves a more

:03:45. > :03:48.varied basket of taxes. Gordon Brown insists it is right to retain

:03:49. > :03:55.certain taxes at Westminster, to fund UK welfare and shared need.

:03:56. > :03:58.While giving Scotland added power. And, to help Scotland's struggling

:03:59. > :03:59.communities, both sides claim their plans would succeed.

:04:00. > :04:07.Will this pledge of more powers have an impact?

:04:08. > :04:12.It is something to be assessed by those trying to make their minds up

:04:13. > :04:17.in the last couple of days. Two questions: Will it happen, and will

:04:18. > :04:20.it work? On the first question, supporters of independence say the

:04:21. > :04:23.promise can be made now, but in the event of a No vote, they say the

:04:24. > :04:25.atmosphere changes, they believe there will be grumbling from

:04:26. > :04:29.Conservative backbenchers about the idea of giving more powers. They

:04:30. > :04:33.point out that Wales, for example, doesn't like the Barnett Formula at

:04:34. > :04:38.all and want it scrapped. In contrast, supporters of the union

:04:39. > :04:41.say that yes, Wales, for example, wants more money but does not want

:04:42. > :04:44.to rob Scotland, and secondly, they point out that these are the leaders

:04:45. > :04:48.of the three big parties at Westminster, Conservative, Labour

:04:49. > :04:50.and the Liberal Democrats, and therefore this amounts to a

:04:51. > :04:54.political guarantee that it will happen. On the question of the

:04:55. > :04:57.impact, again, supporters of independence say even if it

:04:58. > :05:01.happens, it leaves Scotland potentially very heavily dependent

:05:02. > :05:05.upon that single tax, income tax. The other side say that is not the

:05:06. > :05:10.case. Scotland has other taxes already devolved, a variety of

:05:11. > :05:15.taxation, but they argue that it is right to maintain the UK situation,

:05:16. > :05:18.the UK position, whereby welfare and benefits etc are shared across the

:05:19. > :05:24.whole of the UK. Once again, it is a competing couple of offers. There is

:05:25. > :05:25.no single position. There are two others to the people of Scotland,

:05:26. > :05:27.and they have to choose. Thank you. The NHS in Scotland is facing

:05:28. > :05:31.a funding gap of more than ?400 million, according to confidential

:05:32. > :05:33.papers passed to the BBC. The papers, presented to

:05:34. > :05:35.a meeting of health board bosses and civil servants, suggest that

:05:36. > :05:38.radical change will be needed if But the Health Secretary Alex Neil

:05:39. > :05:44.says the Scottish government has protected the NHS from Tory cuts

:05:45. > :05:48.and independence would stop it being under threat from Westminster

:05:49. > :05:51.policies in the future. Our health correspondent

:05:52. > :06:04.Eleanor Bradford reports. Here in Lanarkshire, the NHS is

:06:05. > :06:09.piloting the kind of care which could help ease pressure on the NHS.

:06:10. > :06:14.70-year-old Elizabeth Hadow was ill before Christmas, but did not go to

:06:15. > :06:20.hospital. Nurses, paramedics and doctors treated her in her own home.

:06:21. > :06:24.They couldn't do enough for me. They really looked after me. As we all

:06:25. > :06:28.know, pressure on the NHS is increasing. We're getting older,

:06:29. > :06:34.demanding the best drugs, the best treatments, and faster than ever.

:06:35. > :06:37.But this document, compiled by NHS Chief Executive 's and leaked to the

:06:38. > :06:43.BBC, suggests the NHS is facing serious budget problems over the

:06:44. > :06:48.next two years, a funding gap totalling 400 to ?450 million. In

:06:49. > :06:52.the confidential document on NHS bosses say that the status quo is

:06:53. > :06:54.not an option. It warns that the Scottish Government has made policy

:06:55. > :06:59.commitments which are not fully funded, and it says the

:07:00. > :07:06.reconfiguration of services is necessary. In layman 's terms, that

:07:07. > :07:09.means some units may have to close. Lanarkshire is a fairly small

:07:10. > :07:13.county, but it has three big hospitals, each with its own

:07:14. > :07:19.accident and emergency department. It is expensive and hard to staff.

:07:20. > :07:24.Health bosses wanted to close one of these units years ago, but that

:07:25. > :07:28.decision was overturned by the SNP with popular support. But if that

:07:29. > :07:32.kind of hard choice back on the table after the referendum?

:07:33. > :07:37.Campaigning in Airdrie today, the health minister Alex Neil said not,

:07:38. > :07:40.and that these were just routine efficiency savings.

:07:41. > :07:44.I don't access there is a ?400 billion gap. This is some initial

:07:45. > :07:47.thinking by Chief Executives, looking at the efficiency savings

:07:48. > :07:51.required, and that is very different from a funding gap. The efficiency

:07:52. > :07:57.savings up until now have been 3% per year. , we might require 3.5%,

:07:58. > :08:01.but every penny saved inefficiency goes back into front-line services.

:08:02. > :08:05.But Jackie Baillie of Labour says this shows cuts are on the way.

:08:06. > :08:09.What I absolutely hate, and I think the people of Scotland will dislike

:08:10. > :08:14.as well, ever on the hand, they pretend to want to protect the NHS,

:08:15. > :08:18.well behind closed doors, in secret, they are planning swingeing

:08:19. > :08:21.cuts to front-line services. It is that level the hypocrisy that I

:08:22. > :08:24.think the people of Scotland will reject.

:08:25. > :08:28.Either way, the language of this document is stark. It comes from the

:08:29. > :08:31.top, and it is a clear warning that radical action will be necessary to

:08:32. > :08:37.balance the books, whatever happens on Thursday.

:08:38. > :08:45.One of the key battle ground in campaign is Glasgow, and tonight,

:08:46. > :08:48.Radio 1 will be hosting the last debate

:08:49. > :08:52.It's being held at Glasgow's old fish market, the Briggait,

:08:53. > :08:54.and our referendum correspondent Laura Bicker is there. Laura.

:08:55. > :09:01.with a yes, the scene is being set the night. 150 young people but get

:09:02. > :09:03.a chance to question both sides, but as you mentioned, Glasgow will be so

:09:04. > :09:07.please when it comes to voting on the 18th. My colleague has spent

:09:08. > :09:21.time at campaigning with both sides. The Margot Mobil's up-tempo arrival

:09:22. > :09:24.in pass on that this morning. Here, the Yes campaign say they have

:09:25. > :09:26.impressive divinity led counselling, and they believe this approach is

:09:27. > :09:30.serving a well in Glasgow. I think that if the people who have

:09:31. > :09:34.said they are going to supporters come out and supporters on Thursday,

:09:35. > :09:37.we will win in Glasgow. I am confident that that will be the

:09:38. > :09:41.case. What we have to do is, we have to work hard for the next 48 hours

:09:42. > :09:44.to make sure that we identify all the people out there that our

:09:45. > :09:47.supporters, and then on Thursday, that we get them out to vote,

:09:48. > :09:49.because many of these people have registered to vote for the first

:09:50. > :09:53.time. This dog is part of today Bob Crow

:09:54. > :09:58.campaign team. But this. 's owner says he is still slithering on

:09:59. > :10:01.voting yes, or even voting at all. You'll macro I don't think I'm clued

:10:02. > :10:06.up enough to vote. I think they should have done a lot better before

:10:07. > :10:11.a day before the boat. I have always voted Labour. But not

:10:12. > :10:17.this time? No, not this time. We are voting for independence.

:10:18. > :10:22.I know my kids are all voting Yes, but I am still a No voter. Polling

:10:23. > :10:27.has suggested that people in poorer areas, which Glasgow has many, are

:10:28. > :10:30.more likely to vote yes, which is why streets all across this city are

:10:31. > :10:35.being well trodden by campaigners on both sides of the debate. The No

:10:36. > :10:38.campaign were back in Bala knack this morning.

:10:39. > :10:42.This is a tap and close battle, and that is why I have taken this

:10:43. > :10:46.contest to every area in my constituency. We have spoken to

:10:47. > :10:50.20,000 voters on the doorstep. This is a once all decision, whether we

:10:51. > :10:54.going or whether we stay within the United Kingdom with stronger,

:10:55. > :10:57.devolved powers. It is a huge decision, and I think people

:10:58. > :11:02.recognise that, and I believe we are heading for a strong positive No

:11:03. > :11:05.vote on Thursday. Alan Johnson of Labour did not

:11:06. > :11:09.manage to talk around this voter, however. Not just oil, but there is

:11:10. > :11:14.a whole wealth of commodities in Scotland to sustain itself. I think

:11:15. > :11:17.it would be great, come Friday, if we go it alone.

:11:18. > :11:22.If it is not broke, don't fix it. People just don't know where the

:11:23. > :11:24.money is. Whether their pensions are going to be paid, what else will

:11:25. > :11:28.affect them. Is it two days away? I haven't

:11:29. > :11:31.really thought about it. I haven't voted that much at all.

:11:32. > :11:37.Clearly, some people already know how they are going to vote, but with

:11:38. > :11:39.this being a such a crucial area for both the Yes campaign and the No

:11:40. > :11:41.campaign, that battle for the undecided will keep going right up

:11:42. > :11:53.until the wire. The final rehearsals are underway

:11:54. > :11:55.here at the Briggait, as 16 to 24-year-olds will take their seats

:11:56. > :12:01.in just over an hour. The debate will start at nine o'clock. As I

:12:02. > :12:06.mentioned, Glasgow is such a crucial area for both sides to win, and one

:12:07. > :12:10.man who knows Glasgow politics more than any other, Tom Gordon from the

:12:11. > :12:14.Sunday Herald. If I can speak to you about what both sides need to do, to

:12:15. > :12:18.persuade people to win here in the West of Scotland.

:12:19. > :12:20.Well, it has long been said that the road to independence runs through

:12:21. > :12:24.Glasgow, for a number of reasons. One reason is the number of people

:12:25. > :12:28.here. One in nine Scottish voters lives in the city. And two other big

:12:29. > :12:33.groups of people, Labour supporters that the city has always been

:12:34. > :12:37.loyalty Labour. And also people who don't vote. There are only five

:12:38. > :12:41.constituencies where turnout was below 40% in the last election, all

:12:42. > :12:44.in Glasgow. With the Yes campaign can crack Glasgow, convert Labour

:12:45. > :12:47.supporters and motivate nonvoters, they are probably on to a winning

:12:48. > :12:49.formula for the rest of Scotland as well.

:12:50. > :12:53.You have been out on the ground as I have, and one thing that has really

:12:54. > :12:56.struck me at these so-called missing millions, not only people that they

:12:57. > :12:59.are signing up to vote, but people who never usually vote. It is an

:13:00. > :13:03.unknown quantity at this referendum, isn't it?

:13:04. > :13:05.It is, and both sides are persuading very hard. There are possibly a

:13:06. > :13:12.quarter of a million of those people in the city, so on the Yes camp,

:13:13. > :13:15.they are complaining that the this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

:13:16. > :13:18.They wanted to be but that this is different, not like your average

:13:19. > :13:25.election. You might feel your vote doesn't count, and they are playing

:13:26. > :13:26.very hard on the fact this is a historic, once-in-a-lifetime

:13:27. > :13:29.opportunity, from the other side, they are saying this is a

:13:30. > :13:32.once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get right. You can't very well

:13:33. > :13:36.reverse this. This is a very important thing for both sides. They

:13:37. > :13:41.are both stressing the importance of unique qualities of this contest.

:13:42. > :13:44.This is an area in which they used to weigh the Labour vote, so what

:13:45. > :13:50.influence will that have, do you think, on the outcome?

:13:51. > :13:54.It is a mixed picture. At Westminster, Belize city's MPs are

:13:55. > :14:02.Labour, but that Holyrood is mixed. In fact, the Holyrood parliament

:14:03. > :14:07.sees a mixed bag. So Labour know their vote is slipping, they feel,

:14:08. > :14:12.however, they are still holding onto enough of their core support to be

:14:13. > :14:18.all right. Over in the Yes campaign, they are eating into that Labour

:14:19. > :14:20.vote, and they feel that a lot of Labour voters feel betrayed, feeling

:14:21. > :14:26.they are not the party they used to vote for. That has become too cosy

:14:27. > :14:29.with big finance and the city, and has forgotten about the basics like

:14:30. > :14:33.quality and poverty. So both sides are pushing that. Tom Gordon, we

:14:34. > :14:37.will be watching this contest on the night. We will be back here in just

:14:38. > :14:40.half an hour's time to give you a bit more here from the Briggait and

:14:41. > :14:45.look at voters in East Ayrshire. Thank you much.

:14:46. > :14:48.In a moment, I'll be joined by the leader of Better Together

:14:49. > :14:51.Alistair Darling, but first, let's see what he's been up to

:14:52. > :15:07.The key thing is, in this referendum campaign, we had to decide whether

:15:08. > :15:10.or not we are staying in the UK with a parliament with increased powers

:15:11. > :15:11.on whether we are leaving with all the risks that come with

:15:12. > :15:33.independence. Three, two, one...

:15:34. > :15:36.They blame someone else, and I think the remedy is to go it alone. I

:15:37. > :15:40.don't agree with that approach. I think the philosophy is wrong. I

:15:41. > :15:43.want people to vote No Thanks, because I want people to embrace the

:15:44. > :15:45.opportunities and jobs that depend on us being part of the United

:15:46. > :15:57.Kingdom, to say No to these risks. You can leave that on there.

:15:58. > :16:02.Alistair Darling, having a last goal of water. That is allowed. Nice to

:16:03. > :16:07.have you. A busy day, and an eventful one. A big pledge today,

:16:08. > :16:11.more powers. Then, a grand gesture. Your opponents say it is too late,

:16:12. > :16:14.and it smacks of panic. They are bound to have a go at a

:16:15. > :16:20.policy that they know the majority of people of Scotland want. I think

:16:21. > :16:22.most people in Scotland want to have a Scottish parliament with

:16:23. > :16:28.strengthened powers, being able to raise money to put into health

:16:29. > :16:32.services, for example, and the health service, as we know, is an

:16:33. > :16:35.issue of key concern to voters in the referendum on especially on a

:16:36. > :16:40.day when we find out that the Scottish Government is planning to

:16:41. > :16:44.take ?450 million as of the health service budget, and they were not

:16:45. > :16:47.going to tell us until after the referendum. We only find out because

:16:48. > :16:51.someone has leaked documents showing this, so my argument is, you can

:16:52. > :16:53.have a strong Scottish parliament within the UK that secures funding

:16:54. > :16:58.for things like the health service, but if it wants to to raise more

:16:59. > :17:01.money to put into the health service, it can do so, but either

:17:02. > :17:04.way, it has complete control over the health service. It doesn't

:17:05. > :17:08.matter what anyone else is doing elsewhere in the UK. In Scotland, it

:17:09. > :17:10.will be under public control and properly funded.

:17:11. > :17:14.You say the people of Scotland want it, but even some of your own don't

:17:15. > :17:18.want it. We've just heard from Eric Joyce, former Labour MP, who

:17:19. > :17:21.basically said, this will create an independent Scotland in all but

:17:22. > :17:24.name, and he said it certainly won't wash with English MPs. As you know,

:17:25. > :17:28.there has been disquiet already from Tories.

:17:29. > :17:31.I said a majority of people in Scotland, and yes, of course there

:17:32. > :17:34.are some people who prefer other options. But I do think the majority

:17:35. > :17:40.of people in Scotland, as we go to the polls in a couple of days, are

:17:41. > :17:44.faced with a choice between having a secure Scottish parliament, which we

:17:45. > :17:48.will set up faster, in a more secure way, a better way of proceeding,

:17:49. > :17:51.then years of uncertainty that would follow trying to negotiate the

:17:52. > :17:54.break-up of the United Kingdom, never mind the publications with

:17:55. > :17:58.Europe and so on. But the fact that it has come today

:17:59. > :18:02.only reinforces the notion that it is such a deal to cut, that it has

:18:03. > :18:05.taken on this line. In terms of the commitment for more

:18:06. > :18:08.powers of the Scottish Parliament, they were announced some time ago.

:18:09. > :18:12.The Barnett Formula has actually been around for 30 odd years. What

:18:13. > :18:15.is new today is that all three people who can conceivably be the

:18:16. > :18:18.Prime Minister after the general election next May have said the

:18:19. > :18:23.Barnett Formula is here to stay, which means that you have got secure

:18:24. > :18:28.funding. You are saying that you have to get it through Westminster,

:18:29. > :18:30.and next year, Westminster's eyes will be on looking after what is

:18:31. > :18:35.happening south of the border and getting their own party into power.

:18:36. > :18:38.Can we have a general election, where we will choose the government

:18:39. > :18:43.of the UK for the next four or five years, but people used to say this

:18:44. > :18:46.before 1997, before the then Labour government legislated to set up the

:18:47. > :18:50.Scottish Parliament. They said it will never happen, you will never

:18:51. > :18:54.get it through. Well, we did, and since then, its powers have been

:18:55. > :18:58.further strengthened. The choice we are making on Thursday is whether or

:18:59. > :19:01.not we have that stronger Scottish Parliament, with the powers it needs

:19:02. > :19:05.to make sure that the health service and other services are properly

:19:06. > :19:08.funded, but at the same time, you are keeping the security of the UK

:19:09. > :19:12.to get that funding, to make sure pensions are paid without taking the

:19:13. > :19:15.risks, and there are huge and unquantified risks, unanswered

:19:16. > :19:18.questions. We said we don't know the answer to them, and I think the

:19:19. > :19:22.majority of people don't want to take that on when they don't act on

:19:23. > :19:25.the need to do so. Here we are in just two days before the referendum,

:19:26. > :19:30.and we still don't know what will happen with jobs, with firms moving

:19:31. > :19:33.their headquarters south of the border, who will pay pensions, what

:19:34. > :19:36.will happen in Europe, or what currency will will be using. Those

:19:37. > :19:40.risks are massive risks to families, to people's standards of

:19:41. > :19:43.living, and our ability to find things like the health service.

:19:44. > :19:47.The last time I spoke, I said it was tight, and you said, no, I thought

:19:48. > :19:50.it would be tight. I went away and thought about that. I thought, did

:19:51. > :19:57.you think that your campaign would be so flawed that you would let what

:19:58. > :20:03.was a 20 point lead in the polls whittle away to almost nothing? What

:20:04. > :20:06.happened? I said it would be tight because the decision that we are

:20:07. > :20:09.facing on Thursday is not likely general election, where you can give

:20:10. > :20:13.the government a good kicking if that is what you want. This is a

:20:14. > :20:16.decision that will decide our future, where we and the generations

:20:17. > :20:19.to come stand with our neighbours, or whether we decide that we are

:20:20. > :20:23.going to break away. It is not surprising that when you have a

:20:24. > :20:28.decision of that magnitude, you get people, even at this late stage, a

:20:29. > :20:32.surprising number of people who are still slithering between one side or

:20:33. > :20:36.another. It is not surprisingly get that, and my job, and my

:20:37. > :20:40.colleagues' jobs in the neck couple of days is to persuade people that

:20:41. > :20:43.you can get the change you want within the security and strength of

:20:44. > :20:47.the UK. We could make Scotland stronger, but that we should not go

:20:48. > :20:52.down the road of entering into a whole lot of risks on jobs, prices,

:20:53. > :20:55.the weekly shop and so on, that we don't need to take.

:20:56. > :20:58.Are you saying that that no point in the last few weeks you have

:20:59. > :21:02.scratched your head and foot, where have we gone wrong? Where has our

:21:03. > :21:06.lead gone? Is it something we are doing wrong, what are they doing?

:21:07. > :21:11.I think in the last couple of years, since this campaign started, having

:21:12. > :21:13.visited places up and down Scotland, having talked to countless numbers

:21:14. > :21:18.of people, what I know is that people want change and of course,

:21:19. > :21:21.there are two competing visions of change, and whether or not you

:21:22. > :21:25.achieve that in a faster, more secure and better way within the UK,

:21:26. > :21:29.and whether you take a leap into the unknown with a whole bunch of

:21:30. > :21:31.questions that will affect people's standard of living and the prospect

:21:32. > :21:36.of their children and grandchildren getting jobs, all those risks which

:21:37. > :21:39.we know are there, and which the Nationalists now make no attempt to

:21:40. > :21:42.answer. They say, everyone else is wrong and we are right. You do this

:21:43. > :21:47.against a backdrop of people who are telling you this, aren't ones who

:21:48. > :21:49.chose not to tell as they were planning to cut ?450 million from a

:21:50. > :21:55.health service. If you win, do you think the union

:21:56. > :22:00.will still be workable after what you've seen, and how close it is?

:22:01. > :22:03.Yes, I do, because what we are talking about, there's a world of

:22:04. > :22:06.difference between increased, enhanced powers for the Scottish

:22:07. > :22:10.parliament within the UK, and breaking up the UK, going our

:22:11. > :22:14.separate ways, breaking up 300 years of history. There is a world of

:22:15. > :22:21.difference between the two. Of course the constitution will evolve,

:22:22. > :22:26.and that is how it should be. When but the key question that we are

:22:27. > :22:30.facing in a couple of days is whether we are part of that process

:22:31. > :22:33.of change, whether we can help control their change, remember,

:22:34. > :22:38.Scotland's influence in the rest of the UK has been far greater than our

:22:39. > :22:42.population would suggest. We can be influential within the United

:22:43. > :22:45.Kingdom, rather than being outside begging to get back into a currency

:22:46. > :22:49.union or something like that. It is far better to ill on the strength

:22:50. > :22:55.that we have, the confidence we have other nation, being confident in

:22:56. > :23:00.ourselves and saying Nothing Is to all those risks, but yes, we can

:23:01. > :23:02.build a better, stronger Scotland within the United Kingdom.

:23:03. > :23:05.When David Cameron says passionately, a vote to end the

:23:06. > :23:07.union is forever, this is a selling point for many people.

:23:08. > :23:12.Did you realise what you were up against? It is a decision we take on

:23:13. > :23:17.Thursday, and if we decide to leave, it is forever. You can't come

:23:18. > :23:20.back. And as I say, this is not like an election, where you can say, I do

:23:21. > :23:23.like the government, I'm going to kick them out for at least the

:23:24. > :23:27.Millicent and votes in thing else. If this all goes wrong, and imagine

:23:28. > :23:31.for a moment, suppose Alex Salmond is wrong about the building he has

:23:32. > :23:35.said, because an awful lot of it is a wish list, a list of assertions

:23:36. > :23:37.which depend on a lot of other people agreeing with him, and he

:23:38. > :23:42.doesn't have a plan B for anything, as far as I can see. You have gone

:23:43. > :23:45.over some of the ground. Yes, but even at this stage, it is

:23:46. > :23:49.worth reminding people that we don't know the answer to some fundamental

:23:50. > :23:57.questions, yet we are being asked to take a decision that if we go, is

:23:58. > :24:00.irrevocable. We are being asked to gamble the future of our children

:24:01. > :24:03.and our children by Lego children on that. I think it is far better to

:24:04. > :24:05.get the change we want, building a stronger Scottish parliament so that

:24:06. > :24:08.we can make sure that we can protect the health service, making sure we

:24:09. > :24:10.can pay pensions, and create jobs here.

:24:11. > :24:12.It is critically important. Alistair Darling, thank you for your time.

:24:13. > :24:15.I'm about to be joined - for Yes - by the First Minister Alex Salmond,

:24:16. > :24:28.but first, let's have a look at Mr Salmond on the campaign trail.

:24:29. > :24:37.Nobody sensible believes other than this country, which founded the

:24:38. > :24:42.science of economic, this country which gave the world so much in so

:24:43. > :24:43.many areas, dare they say that this country is not capable of running

:24:44. > :24:56.own affairs? What we are interested in is having

:24:57. > :24:59.a powerhouse parliament that can create jobs in Scotland, but team

:25:00. > :25:21.Westminster seem to be concerned about their own jobs. Vote Scotland!

:25:22. > :25:28.Well, I am now joined by First Minister Alex Salmond. Thank you for

:25:29. > :25:32.coming in. When I said do it again there, I wasn't being serious! I

:25:33. > :25:38.don't know, it is all about sponsorship. Now, health, one of the

:25:39. > :25:41.cornerstones of your campaign. One of the leaked documents today,

:25:42. > :25:45.cutbacks of ?400 million. That can't have gone down well.

:25:46. > :25:48.Firstly, there are no cutbacks. The health budget was agreed from

:25:49. > :25:52.February the 5th next year, before 2015. This shows yet another

:25:53. > :25:55.increase for next year, and it will be increased in real terms, front

:25:56. > :25:59.line budget for the following year as well. So they are not cutbacks,

:26:00. > :26:02.but cost pressures in the health service. Looking at the document, it

:26:03. > :26:06.actually makes the case that the Yes campaign have been putting forward,

:26:07. > :26:12.so what are these cost pressures? The vast majority of them, the

:26:13. > :26:15.pensions, national insurance rebate, is evidence that our health service

:26:16. > :26:18.will have to pay for Westminster to the Treasury because of changes they

:26:19. > :26:20.have made in how the health service is funded. We will have to give

:26:21. > :26:27.money to the western section that, which creates pressures, which will

:26:28. > :26:30.be dealt with, but how much better would it be if we have the finances

:26:31. > :26:33.of the health service and Scottish towns, so if they introduce

:26:34. > :26:35.something like abandoning the national insurance rebate, we would

:26:36. > :26:47.pay the money to the Scottish exchequer?

:26:48. > :26:59.The person relate this thinks that's a yes rhetoric is not true. The big

:27:00. > :27:03.issue is the way that the NHS in Scotland is run by our Scottish

:27:04. > :27:06.government. The plans for transformational change, this is the

:27:07. > :27:11.leaked document, treatment thresholds, having a look at that,

:27:12. > :27:15.stopping procedures with limited clinical effect, reviewing drug

:27:16. > :27:19.treatments and so on, and so on... I can dismiss all of that because

:27:20. > :27:22.the plans already announced by the health boards between April and June

:27:23. > :27:26.this year achieved more cost savings than that paper identified. These

:27:27. > :27:31.are already public plans that have been published. All the money from

:27:32. > :27:33.the savings is reinvested in the health budget, which is why it is

:27:34. > :27:39.increasing in real terms and will continue to do so across next year

:27:40. > :27:42.and the year after. What I am pointing out is that, if you look at

:27:43. > :27:47.the vast bulk of these cost pressures, the changes -- they are

:27:48. > :27:52.changes to pages from Westminster, changes to national children's from

:27:53. > :27:55.Westminster, the fact that Westminster did not pay nurses 1%

:27:56. > :28:02.pay rise in England, we did in Scotland. Even when we have a real

:28:03. > :28:07.terms increase if we do not the overall finances, our health service

:28:08. > :28:12.has to respond to cost pressures. How much better would it be if we

:28:13. > :28:18.controlled the finances and the organisation of the health service?

:28:19. > :28:23.You are in charge of health. If you need any money, you have tax-raising

:28:24. > :28:27.powers, which you have not used. I will come to that in a second,

:28:28. > :28:32.this is money that will now be paid from the health service and pensions

:28:33. > :28:34.and the National jewellers rebate to the Westminster Exchequer because of

:28:35. > :28:38.changes they have made. It makes the entire point about the health

:28:39. > :28:47.service we had making through campaign. -- National Insurance.

:28:48. > :28:53.Let's move on, I had to move on Mr Darling, I have asked you about as

:28:54. > :28:59.grazing powers. But Michael -- tax-raising powers.

:29:00. > :29:01.So that we can compensate from cutbacks from Westminster, we end up

:29:02. > :29:05.paying for the health service twice. If we're going to cut things, cut

:29:06. > :29:08.guided missiles or the House of Lords or the House of Commons.

:29:09. > :29:14.Invest that in the health service in Scotland.

:29:15. > :29:17.They got all the health service, you have to control finance and

:29:18. > :29:20.administration. That is why it is safe in an independent Scotland and

:29:21. > :29:23.under pressure as long as we remain under Westminster control.

:29:24. > :29:28.What will the currency of Scotland B?

:29:29. > :29:30.We will use the pound. Alistair Darling admitted it.

:29:31. > :29:35.George Osborne says you are not going to use the pound.

:29:36. > :29:37.Alistair Darling in the BBC debate said of course you can use the

:29:38. > :29:42.pound. The interesting thing about that, that was diametrically against

:29:43. > :29:48.what George Osborne has been saying.

:29:49. > :29:53.He did qualify it. An unofficial currency link, say you do get to use

:29:54. > :29:55.some sort of unofficial currency link, do you still want to be part

:29:56. > :30:00.of the EU? There is no permission involved. We

:30:01. > :30:04.think there will be a currency union because the mandate of the Scottish

:30:05. > :30:07.people will be for that and it is in the best interests of Scotland and

:30:08. > :30:12.the rest of the UK. You said yourself, you do not need

:30:13. > :30:16.their say-so. You think you would be able to get into the EU?

:30:17. > :30:20.A common-sense agreement on a common currency is not in any sense on

:30:21. > :30:24.official. To get into the EU and qualify you need two things, the

:30:25. > :30:27.institutional monetary Institute and a conduct authority.

:30:28. > :30:31.We intend to have both of these MPs are part of the proposals were put

:30:32. > :30:34.forward. You need a bag of last resort or tens of million pounds for

:30:35. > :30:38.your own bag of last resort. You need a monetary and conduct

:30:39. > :30:42.authority in of qualification. We will have a common-sense

:30:43. > :30:48.agreement and the Bank of England will be the shared central bank. Why

:30:49. > :30:50.did Ollie Wren, who has recently stepped down as European

:30:51. > :30:53.Commissioner, say it is not possible?

:30:54. > :30:58.The institutions you require under the rules are the monetary authority

:30:59. > :31:04.and conduct authority. Why did Professor David Blatchford

:31:05. > :31:08.described the UK's parties as bluster.

:31:09. > :31:12.He is a former member of the monetary policy committee.

:31:13. > :31:16.It was also described as a bluff from a famous economist.

:31:17. > :31:21.People understand that we are England's meaning trading partner,

:31:22. > :31:24.the second business -- biggest after the US.

:31:25. > :31:28.Why would we not have a common-sense agreement on a common currency? Why

:31:29. > :31:33.did you describe the pound as a millstone around Scotland's neck?

:31:34. > :31:37.That was around 13 years ago in an interview in Catalonia, if I

:31:38. > :31:42.remember correctly. Many times I have argued that come in a contest

:31:43. > :31:47.of putting forward as Michael argued, that in a Kong set --

:31:48. > :31:49.context of putting forward what is bit for the UK, it makes

:31:50. > :31:55.common-sense. Four years ago, sterling was sinking

:31:56. > :31:59.like a stone, you said. It was losing its position...

:32:00. > :32:02.So we abandon it? That is not a long-term thought process for an

:32:03. > :32:05.independent state to have. Change the currency if it is not very

:32:06. > :32:12.strong. Commenting on the way sterling is in

:32:13. > :32:16.international exchanges is not a policy.

:32:17. > :32:20.This is about a policy -- opportunity, a once-in-a-lifetime

:32:21. > :32:24.opportunity, to take Scotland's future into Scotland's hands. We

:32:25. > :32:28.have had a consistent position on sterling for many years and that has

:32:29. > :32:32.been put forward in the context of independence. This referendum is not

:32:33. > :32:36.about the SNP or me or anything I have said or anything anyone else

:32:37. > :32:40.has said in the past. This is about the people of Scotland at last

:32:41. > :32:49.having an opportunity to take their future into Scotland's hands.

:32:50. > :32:51.How many people in Scotland? Past referendums in recent decades on

:32:52. > :32:53.independence that have been successful at being won by thumping

:32:54. > :32:57.majorities. I am sure you will agree this will be very close. Is that the

:32:58. > :33:02.basis for a new country, with such a divided nation?

:33:03. > :33:05.Edinburgh agreement clause 13, both sides will accept the result and

:33:06. > :33:10.move forward in the best interests of Scotland and the UK. We are not

:33:11. > :33:14.aiming for a majority of one, we are trying our hardest, as the underdogs

:33:15. > :33:18.in this campaign, campaigning hard until 10pm on Thursday night to

:33:19. > :33:22.secure every possible vote, persuade our fellow citizens that this is the

:33:23. > :33:29.opportunity to take Scotland's future into Scotland's hands.

:33:30. > :33:32.Do you group yet -- do you regret at any stage saying there were no

:33:33. > :33:38.risks? You have batted back every institution as scaremongering, are

:33:39. > :33:41.there no risks crash at a pub in specific about what I have described

:33:42. > :33:46.as scaremongering. Companies like supermarkets asked by

:33:47. > :33:50.the Tory prime ministers if they could make hostile comments about

:33:51. > :33:55.Scottish independence. I have also acknowledged that for every Asda

:33:56. > :33:58.Gold into that scaremongering campaign, there are companies like

:33:59. > :34:03.Tesco and Aldi saying, we are business people and have nothing to

:34:04. > :34:07.do with that. That is what I have been talking about. In Thames of

:34:08. > :34:11.challengers, of course we will have challengers come every country does.

:34:12. > :34:15.The point of independence is having the powers and ability to overcome

:34:16. > :34:20.these challenges. We will also make mistakes as an independent country.

:34:21. > :34:24.We will have to overcome these mistakes and take the opportunity to

:34:25. > :34:27.take our future into our own hands. Thank you very much for joining us,

:34:28. > :34:30.Alex Salmond. With the polls tightening in in the

:34:31. > :34:37.last few days, a key battle ground in recent weeks has been the attempt

:34:38. > :34:41.to gain the support of Scotland's ethnic minorities. I see minorities,

:34:42. > :34:47.but as our correspondent reports, the Asian community alone accounts

:34:48. > :34:51.for 100,000 voters. Scotland's Asian population is

:34:52. > :34:55.growing, around 6% at the last census, up from 4% to ten years

:34:56. > :35:01.earlier. In Glasgow the proportion is even higher, around 12%. In a

:35:02. > :35:04.tight referendum campaign, these are significant votes.

:35:05. > :35:07.With an estimated 100,000 members of the South Asian community in

:35:08. > :35:15.Scotland, competition to win their votes is keen. It is clear the

:35:16. > :35:21.issues that divide them are pretty much the same as the issues that

:35:22. > :35:24.divide everybody else. Glasgow's Central Mosque, the

:35:25. > :35:25.largest in Scotland, has been a focal point for campaigning in

:35:26. > :35:40.recent weeks. The Islamic community the at the

:35:41. > :35:43.mosque has maintained a strict neutrality, but Friday prayers was

:35:44. > :35:47.an opportunity to meet the leaders of both sides of the debate. No

:35:48. > :35:51.matter your country of origin, no matter if you have bombarded

:35:52. > :35:54.Scotland you have come to work in Scotland, -- no matter if you have

:35:55. > :36:00.been born in Scotland, this issue is as important to you as anyone else.

:36:01. > :36:03.Scotland is your home, and I hope generations of families continue to

:36:04. > :36:07.stay. That is why it is important to not make this a protest vote, make a

:36:08. > :36:13.decision that is best for your family and for Scotland.

:36:14. > :36:15.The Scots Asians for independence group joked they had even brought

:36:16. > :36:19.monsoon weather to the campaign trail.

:36:20. > :36:23.Now the weather has got better, so we are going to peel this back and

:36:24. > :36:28.now we can sort out all of our leaflets. It did not dampen there

:36:29. > :36:32.and easy as for a debate they say has fired the imagination of the

:36:33. > :36:36.Asian community. Scottish Asians are hugely engaged

:36:37. > :36:40.in this campaign, and they see this as a real opportunity to change the

:36:41. > :36:43.future for Scotland. As you know, as a community we are very family

:36:44. > :36:45.oriented and we want to make sure they aren't part of a better

:36:46. > :36:50.society. I feel as a Scottish Asian myself

:36:51. > :36:54.there is an onus on us to vote the right way for a country that has

:36:55. > :36:57.taken us to its heart. And make sure we would positively on the 18th of

:36:58. > :37:04.September for a better future for all of us. -- make sure we vote.

:37:05. > :37:08.The referendum debate has proved popular on Glasgow's Asian radio

:37:09. > :37:11.station. Each week, leading figures have come to the studio was to cut

:37:12. > :37:18.-- take part in a two-hour long bone in.

:37:19. > :37:22.-- phone in. Events abroad play a role when it comes to making a

:37:23. > :37:29.decision. In terms of immigration, I think it is completed it. You have

:37:30. > :37:34.the SNP suggesting there will be more immigration to Scotland, and

:37:35. > :37:38.more immigration is required. On the other hand, there are fears and

:37:39. > :37:42.concerns about whether or not it will make things more difficult

:37:43. > :37:46.Scotland becomes independent. Will it make things difficult between

:37:47. > :37:50.Scotland and England in terms of access to England and border

:37:51. > :37:54.patrols? Researchers are seizing the

:37:55. > :37:56.opportunity to study how the Asian community votes. They save the

:37:57. > :38:00.referendum exposes for the first time the way in which they view the

:38:01. > :38:04.country in which they live. It helps to finance for the first

:38:05. > :38:09.time as the Scottish full stop we know that ethnic minorities in

:38:10. > :38:14.Scotland are twice as likely to identify as Scottish as in England.

:38:15. > :38:18.There is a sense of ownership over the idea of Scotland amongst ethnic

:38:19. > :38:22.minorities and that could translate to a Yes or No vote, but not

:38:23. > :38:26.directly. It more broadly feeds into a sense of ownership of the

:38:27. > :38:31.political terrain. By Lehigh turnout is predicted

:38:32. > :38:36.across the country, campaigners say it could be particularly heavy in

:38:37. > :38:39.the areas where Asians predominates, such as Pollokshields in Glasgow,

:38:40. > :38:40.and that could hold the key in Glasgow.

:38:41. > :38:42.You're watching an extended Reporting Scotland from the BBC.

:38:43. > :38:46.We'll be speaking live to the First Minister, Alex Salmond, and to

:38:47. > :38:55.We hear how the referendum campaign is faring in Ayrshire.

:38:56. > :38:57.A man charged with murdering his wife

:38:58. > :39:00.and child said he did not mean to murder 29-year-old Janet Lockhart,

:39:01. > :39:03.and killed his son so the two year old could be with his mother.

:39:04. > :39:05.Gary Lockhart told the High Court in Edinburgh today that

:39:06. > :39:08.at the time killing his son seemed the right thing to do.

:39:09. > :39:17.Janet Lockhart putt parents left court after hearing Gary Lockhart

:39:18. > :39:22.admits to murdering their daughter when he came home to -- from a

:39:23. > :39:27.drunken night out. He admitted killing his two-year-old son hours

:39:28. > :39:32.later but said it was not murder. The bodies were found at their home

:39:33. > :39:37.in Bonnyrigg in December last year. Janet Lockhart had been strangled,

:39:38. > :39:41.Michael had been suffocated. Gary Lockhart told the court he

:39:42. > :39:45.believes in reincarnation. He said it was this sort will assess that

:39:46. > :39:51.meet until his son. He wanted him to be with his dead mother, Janet. He

:39:52. > :39:55.said, when I look back, my thought process was wrong. Michael could

:39:56. > :39:59.have grown up with his grandparents. He told the court repeatedly he

:40:00. > :40:01.should not have killed his two-year-old son.

:40:02. > :40:04.Under cross-examination, Gary Lockhart was told what he did to

:40:05. > :40:10.Michael was worse because he meant to kill him. He said, I did not want

:40:11. > :40:17.to kill him, I had a stress reaction, what ever it is called.

:40:18. > :40:20.Gary Lockhart's family were in court, they heard him say he still

:40:21. > :40:22.loved his wife and child and would be with them again one day.

:40:23. > :40:34.The trial continues. Two men have died after a helicopter

:40:35. > :40:38.crash in the sea of East Yorks. The craft, described as a Jet Ranger

:40:39. > :40:43.helicopter, is thought to have taken off from West Lothian this morning.

:40:44. > :40:47.Eyewitnesses said the helicopter, thought to be a private charter,

:40:48. > :40:50.seemed to be trying to land near the Flamborough head golf course.

:40:51. > :40:52.Emergency services recovered the bodies of the two men just before

:40:53. > :40:53.5pm. Four men have appeared at the

:40:54. > :40:55.High Court in Glasgow charged with attempting to murder two former

:40:56. > :40:58.leaders of the Loyalist UDA. Anton Duffy, Martin Hughes, Paul

:40:59. > :41:01.Sands and John Gorman are alleged to have planned to kill Johnny

:41:02. > :41:03."Mad Dog" Adair and Sam McCrory. Anton Duffy and John Gorman,

:41:04. > :41:07.are also alleged to have planned the murder of the former governor

:41:08. > :41:10.of Barlinnie Prison, Derek McGill, A Highland firefighter has been

:41:11. > :41:22.jailed for two years after starting two wildfires which destroyed

:41:23. > :41:24.forestry worth more than ?1 million. Fort William Sheriff Court heard

:41:25. > :41:26.that David Mackay from Strontian had over 20 years'

:41:27. > :41:29.service but had been seen in the areas where the fires broke out,

:41:30. > :41:32.with his movements confirmed by a Scottish Fire and Rescue said Mackay

:41:33. > :41:36.had let himself, the service In a week of waiting

:41:37. > :41:56.for big decisions, Scotland will find out on Friday

:41:57. > :41:59.if Glasgow will be a host city for UEFA's 60th anniversary celebrations

:42:00. > :42:01.of the European Championships. 13 Host city venues will be chosen

:42:02. > :42:05.for Euro 2020 and Sir Alex Ferguson believes Hampden and Glasgow will be

:42:06. > :42:16.a perfect choice after the success If anyone watched the Commonwealth

:42:17. > :42:22.Games in the summer, that was a perfect example of Glasgow still

:42:23. > :42:25.having this wonderful atmosphere, and also the friendship. They had a

:42:26. > :42:31.great slogan throughout the Commonwealth Games, that said people

:42:32. > :42:34.make Glasgow. They have that great history, they have had six finals

:42:35. > :42:35.and I think Glasgow can create that again.

:42:36. > :42:38.This could be a week of making history in Scotland.

:42:39. > :42:39.The racing industry certainly hope so -

:42:40. > :42:42.one of the country's top trainers says he hopes to end Scottish

:42:43. > :42:46.Jim Goldie has two runners in the Ayr Gold Cup

:42:47. > :42:49.which hasn't been won by a Scottish-trained horse since 1975.

:42:50. > :42:54.Kheredine Idessane went along to Goldie's yard just outside

:42:55. > :43:03.Glasgow to find out how preparations are going.

:43:04. > :43:08.Away from the gallops, it is a bit of a merry-go-round, as preparations

:43:09. > :43:15.continue for one of British racing's biggest days. Meet the

:43:16. > :43:19.horses who hope to do what no Scottish horse has managed in nearly

:43:20. > :43:24.40 years. This is one of the stable stars. He

:43:25. > :43:28.is the only Scottish horse ever to win a stewards cup, which is one of

:43:29. > :43:33.the big handicaps in England, at Goodwood. He is unique in that. He

:43:34. > :43:42.is warm bed. I drained his mother and father, born in Scotland, very

:43:43. > :43:46.much a Scottish horse. He is named after my two grandsons, Jack and

:43:47. > :43:50.Dexter, so he is very personal to us.

:43:51. > :43:53.I think even Jack Dexter here knows there is a certain important vote

:43:54. > :43:56.coming up on Thursday but you have to go back to before the last

:43:57. > :44:01.independence referendum for the last time a Scottish trained horse won

:44:02. > :44:08.the Ayr Gold Cup. It was Roman Warrior by image and 75. What chance

:44:09. > :44:17.Jim Goldie can update that on Saturday? -- in 1975.

:44:18. > :44:20.It has been a long while since Roman Warrior did it and it would be good

:44:21. > :44:26.in the referendum here for a Scottish horse to take the win.

:44:27. > :44:27.So, will it be Yes or No for Jack Dexter or Hawkeyethenoo? We will

:44:28. > :44:29.find out on Saturday afternoon. The world canoe slalom champion,

:44:30. > :44:32.David Florence, says he is not going out with a medal in mind

:44:33. > :44:35.for this years event. The Edinburgh paddler will begin

:44:36. > :44:37.the defence of He says, of course he would

:44:38. > :44:41.like to win, but the world number one believes success will come

:44:42. > :44:56.if he focuses on his performance, My good results have come about not

:44:57. > :45:01.from going there determined to win this. It is not a head sport, we go

:45:02. > :45:06.out and do our own run and see how the others have gone. I am trying to

:45:07. > :45:07.put in the best runs I can on the day, that is all I will aim for and

:45:08. > :45:09.it is no different to usual. Before I go,

:45:10. > :45:13.there's commentary tonight on Radio Scotland Sportsound of Rangers

:45:14. > :45:23.v Inverness CT in the League Cup. One thing that has been calm in

:45:24. > :45:25.Scotland recently as the weather, surprisingly enough.

:45:26. > :45:29.What is in store? That will continue, yes, a lot of

:45:30. > :45:33.dry weather to come this week, though very mixed fortunes in terms

:45:34. > :45:37.of sunshine. Today we had 20 Celsius in parts of the North West West,

:45:38. > :45:43.well above the seasonal average. Just 14 Celsius on the East Coast,

:45:44. > :45:47.where we struggled to shift mist and low cloud. We have been

:45:48. > :45:51.predominantly dry with some showers cropping up through the day, but we

:45:52. > :45:55.will lose those quickly tonight, then this band of showers hanging on

:45:56. > :46:01.over Shetland. Otherwise it will be dry, but like last night mist and

:46:02. > :46:05.hill fog and low cloud becoming expensive especially around the

:46:06. > :46:11.North Sea coasts. Temperature wise, around 11 or 12 Celsius for most,

:46:12. > :46:21.chilly in some parts of the Highlands.

:46:22. > :46:24.Tomorrow is a great start, warm sunshine breaking through for Dom

:46:25. > :46:33.frisson began a, parts of South Lanarkshire, Ayrshire and Clyde

:46:34. > :46:37.coasts, -- for Dumfries, we will keep cloud coming through on the

:46:38. > :46:42.easterly breeze and generally for eastern Scotland a lot of mist and

:46:43. > :46:48.low cloud hanging on. Temperature is a good 5 degrees down on the Moray

:46:49. > :46:57.coast on what we saw today. To end the day, some sunshine in the West,

:46:58. > :47:01.in the East the mist remaining a feature. On Thursday pressures

:47:02. > :47:06.building, a lot of dry weather to come but still a bit of an easterly

:47:07. > :47:10.flow. Again, a split to the weather across eastern Scotland, a lot of

:47:11. > :47:17.mist and low cloud, some outbreaks of patchy drizzle for the

:47:18. > :47:20.Berwickshire coast. Not a lot of sunshine, the best to the west and

:47:21. > :47:24.where the sun comes out it will be warm, providing a lot of dry weather

:47:25. > :47:25.but a good deal of cloud is specially in the east. The best of

:47:26. > :47:30.the sunshine in the West. At the Briggait arts centre

:47:31. > :47:34.in Glasgow Radio 1 is hosting the last BBC debate of the campaign,

:47:35. > :47:36.and Laura Bicker is there. Laura,

:47:37. > :47:46.in my day it was Radio 1 roadshows, I suppose this reflects the

:47:47. > :47:50.importance of the youth vote in this referendum?

:47:51. > :47:55.That is right, they are starting to arrive now for an evening of heated

:47:56. > :48:04.debate. The number of young people I have spoken to really know this

:48:05. > :48:11.debate inside and out. Being from Ayrshire, I know that in my home

:48:12. > :48:15.area have been heated debates around copy tables and in coffee shops.

:48:16. > :48:19.You do not have to go far to find evidence of the yes campaign in

:48:20. > :48:25.Kilmarnock. Traditionally it is Labour country, but the Yes campaign

:48:26. > :48:28.say the vote is moving from No to Yes.

:48:29. > :48:32.It is a manufacturing time that has been destroyed over the years by

:48:33. > :48:38.successive policies that have created that. -- manufacturing town.

:48:39. > :48:46.People in Colmar will voting for hope. They will be voting for a

:48:47. > :48:49.change. -- people in Kilmarnock. In the local printers, they have

:48:50. > :48:54.been selling T-shirts for all sides of the debate but more than 90% of

:48:55. > :48:59.customers have been asking for Yes T-shirts. It is far from a

:49:00. > :49:03.scientific voters can it really only tells us that Yes voters like

:49:04. > :49:09.T-shirts, but it does show how committed they are.

:49:10. > :49:15.If someone is wearing a T-shirt, they get honked, everyone is smiling

:49:16. > :49:19.and nodding, it is a good feeling. I was undecided until a fortnight

:49:20. > :49:24.ago, and the thing that gelled with me was that this gives Scotland, the

:49:25. > :49:27.only part of the UK that gets such a choice, to say we want a fairer

:49:28. > :49:34.society. The experience in Kilmarnock tells

:49:35. > :49:37.us the Yes campaign are allowed and proud in Ayrshire, but don't mistake

:49:38. > :49:41.that for a lack of support for the union. The No voters may be quieter,

:49:42. > :49:44.but they are less certain of their decision.

:49:45. > :49:48.Better together campaigners have been knocking on the doors of a

:49:49. > :49:53.former mining village that struggled with high unemployment and

:49:54. > :49:56.deprivation since the mines closed. They see a few of the traditional

:49:57. > :50:03.Labour supporters who live here have been swayed by the Yes campaign.

:50:04. > :50:06.On the doorsteps, the reasons for voting No vary, but the economy is

:50:07. > :50:11.high on the list. We have just come through a pretty

:50:12. > :50:14.bad recession as it is. Working in retail I just see us as starting to

:50:15. > :50:17.recover, and when you're just starting to get somewhere this is

:50:18. > :50:21.surely the wrong time to knock it away from underneath us.

:50:22. > :50:24.I would like a guarantee for my future that I know exactly what is

:50:25. > :50:29.happening, and going independent, you cannot. There are too many lies

:50:30. > :50:32.and fighting and there are no actual facts.

:50:33. > :50:34.They may not all be wearing T-shirts, but you cannot mistake

:50:35. > :50:40.that for a lack of passion among No campaigners.

:50:41. > :50:44.I don't truck 's Alex -- trust Alex Salmond, I never have. People who

:50:45. > :50:48.think they are going to get a left-wing government up here are

:50:49. > :50:53.misguided and misled. I will keep on canvassing No until I fall down or

:50:54. > :50:56.until it is over! It is clear both sides here in

:50:57. > :51:00.Ayrshire have put everything into this campaign, but only one will see

:51:01. > :51:03.the result they have fought so hard for.

:51:04. > :51:16.Real passion there in Ayrshire, and I have my two last activists here, I

:51:17. > :51:19.saved the best for last! Why did you get involved in better

:51:20. > :51:21.together? This is the biggest issues got one

:51:22. > :51:26.has phased in over 300 years, really, and it was important to me

:51:27. > :51:29.that women's voices were part of the process to make sure they were being

:51:30. > :51:32.heard. I also passionately believe we are better together and I wanted

:51:33. > :51:40.to make that case. When it comes to your campaign, I

:51:41. > :51:43.have been there, that is a real hotbed of heated debate in

:51:44. > :51:48.Castlemilk. There are a lot of Yes supporters. Yes, we are up there

:51:49. > :51:52.today, Castlemilk may even break away and become its own independent

:51:53. > :51:56.country after the referendum. There was a lot of enthusiasm, a

:51:57. > :51:59.carnival atmosphere across Glasgow, but focusing on areas like

:52:00. > :52:03.Castlemilk. It is key to get the working class vote out and it is

:52:04. > :52:06.clear to me people in these areas want to see change and a new

:52:07. > :52:09.Scotland. We have just mentioned the working

:52:10. > :52:12.class vote. Is that something you have been aiming for on the

:52:13. > :52:15.doorsteps trying to get people to vote No?

:52:16. > :52:20.I have been speaking to everyone. This cuts across all classes and

:52:21. > :52:22.backgrounds. We have been campaigning in Renfrewshire, and I

:52:23. > :52:29.am confident we are going to come back with no from them.

:52:30. > :52:33.The big story is that people feel independence will be bad for the

:52:34. > :52:35.Scottish economy. The big story today is the concerns around the

:52:36. > :52:38.NHS. It is a big thing across Scotland

:52:39. > :52:43.generally, but people have been worried sick about it. We have been

:52:44. > :52:47.hearing stories about the whole Braveheart, you can take our freedom

:52:48. > :52:52.but not our bedpans, and today we find out there was a secret report

:52:53. > :52:58.that we are facing half ?1 million worth of cuts? Secrets!

:52:59. > :53:00.Alex Salmond has answered those claims in the programme this

:53:01. > :53:05.evening, but I should give you a chance to come back on that. Is the

:53:06. > :53:10.NHS under threat with independence? The NHS is under threat if we stick

:53:11. > :53:13.with the UK. It is clear, the UK Government have been watering at the

:53:14. > :53:18.most to cut Scotland's budget even further. All of our public services

:53:19. > :53:23.applet if we continue the way we are. What we are hearing from people

:53:24. > :53:26.on the doors in Castlemilk, when they hear a pledge from Nick Clegg

:53:27. > :53:31.and the scaremongering in the last few days, it is a massive highlight.

:53:32. > :53:35.People in cars or milk will not be fooled, people in Glasgow will not

:53:36. > :53:41.be filled it is their country and they are going to it work.

:53:42. > :53:44.You do have been chatting together, I have to say, you can see the

:53:45. > :53:50.passion from U2. What on earth? What on earth are you

:53:51. > :53:55.going to do next week? This has been your life for so long?

:53:56. > :54:00.I am going to get a life, spend some time with my children. Hello!

:54:01. > :54:05.They will not forgive me for that. Maybe my mother, as well, no one has

:54:06. > :54:07.seen me for a while. What about you? Yes, I will have to go and spend

:54:08. > :54:14.time with my mum. Also with my partner.

:54:15. > :54:18.You said you are going to do your own washing? Yes, my own washing and

:54:19. > :54:23.cooking and cleaning, I promise. We also have Edith Bowman, how are

:54:24. > :54:26.you feeling about tonight Gretchen Mark I can't wait.

:54:27. > :54:31.I have been chatting to 16 and 17-year-olds who are incredibly

:54:32. > :54:34.involved in this whole debate. It is incredible, and that is one thing

:54:35. > :54:37.everyone can take away from this experience, it has engaged the young

:54:38. > :54:39.people of Scotland in the future which ever way it goes. It is so

:54:40. > :54:45.exciting. Are you ready for this debate?

:54:46. > :54:48.I am terrified! I think that is a good way to be.

:54:49. > :54:52.Are you going to intervene if it gets heeded?

:54:53. > :54:57.People know me, I can be pretty bossy, so I just have to get my Fife

:54:58. > :55:01.bossy ways in there and make sure I am heard.

:55:02. > :55:08.I am sure you will do just that. We're looking forward to an evening

:55:09. > :55:12.of debate here at the Briggait, that starts at 9pm and we will be here

:55:13. > :55:16.for it, live on the BBC News channel, as well.

:55:17. > :55:21.Lots of choice tonight because at 9pm on BBC One Scotland there is a

:55:22. > :55:24.change to the said Joel for two special referendum interviews. David

:55:25. > :55:29.Dibble B will be speaking to Gordon Brown and Alex Salmond.

:55:30. > :55:33.-- a change to the schedule. A reminder of the news, with 36

:55:34. > :55:38.hours until the opening of the polling stations, supporters of the

:55:39. > :55:40.unions have agreed to enhance Holyrood's powers but those in

:55:41. > :55:48.favour of independence call it a con.

:55:49. > :55:52.That is reporting Scotland, I will be back with the headlines at 8pm

:55:53. > :55:56.and the late bulletin is just after the 10pm news. Until then, from

:55:57. > :55:58.everyone on the team right across the country, enjoy the rest of your

:55:59. > :56:00.evening. Goodbye.