:00:00. > :00:00.What's free if you are Scottish, French or Dutch
:00:00. > :00:07.but could cost you thousands if you live in England or Wales?
:00:08. > :00:09.And what will happen to university tuition fees
:00:10. > :00:13.A free higher education is a cherished ideal for many Scots.
:00:14. > :00:15.But would it continue in an independent Scotland?
:00:16. > :00:17.How could we carry on charging fees to students
:00:18. > :00:19.from England, Wales and Northern Ireland whilst we invite students
:00:20. > :00:23.from France, Germany and the rest of the EU to study free of charge?
:00:24. > :00:25.I will be asking the Education Secretary Mike Russell why the EU
:00:26. > :00:29.would allow the current situation to continue In the third part of her
:00:30. > :00:32.triathlon across the Western Isles, Laura Bicker runs across the Isle of
:00:33. > :00:34.Skye to investigate the future for one of Scotland's biggest
:00:35. > :00:40.A free higher education is a cherished ideal for many Scots but
:00:41. > :00:45.could it continue in an independent Scotland? How could we carry on
:00:46. > :00:47.charging fees to students from England Wales and Northern Ireland
:00:48. > :00:53.while we invite students from France, Germany and the rest of the
:00:54. > :00:56.EU to study free of charge. I will be asking the Education Secretary
:00:57. > :01:02.Mike Russell by the EU would allow the current situation to continue.
:01:03. > :01:07.Also tonight... Laura Bicker runs across the aisle of Skype to
:01:08. > :01:11.investigate the future for one of Scotland's against industries. And
:01:12. > :01:17.it was 20 years ago production began on Braveheart. The Mel Gibson film
:01:18. > :01:20.premiered in Stirling in 1995 and went on, rightly or wrongly, to
:01:21. > :01:27.become the version of Scottish history many will rely on. I speak
:01:28. > :01:32.to Brian Cox about how the film he starred in has affected Scottish
:01:33. > :01:36.politics ever since. It is one of the odder aspects of our university
:01:37. > :01:43.system. If you live in Belshill, no tuition fees. In Berlin, it is free.
:01:44. > :01:47.If you live in Belgravia, a Scottish university education will cost you
:01:48. > :01:51.?9,000 every year. The Scottish Government is proud of its record in
:01:52. > :01:57.delivering free education for students here. What will happen in
:01:58. > :02:04.an independent Scotland? This is what it is all about. Graduating
:02:05. > :02:08.with a degree. But at what price? Free education tuition is a point of
:02:09. > :02:12.principle for the SNP. Under European law it is possible to give
:02:13. > :02:17.Scottish students a free tuition at two charge of the students from the
:02:18. > :02:20.UK. It is possible to discriminate against students from one member
:02:21. > :02:27.state but not against those from another. In 29 ten, before the
:02:28. > :02:32.introduction of these, nearly 6000 students from the rest of the UK
:02:33. > :02:37.went to Scottish universities. That number fell as the introduction of
:02:38. > :02:42.fees approached in 20 12. At last year there was a slight recovery,
:02:43. > :02:46.and the number rose to almost five thousand. That compares to almost
:02:47. > :02:51.30,000 Scottish -based students accepted in the same year. Edinburgh
:02:52. > :02:57.University released new research and blip. What impact Independent would
:02:58. > :02:59.have on the picture. Key to that was it the European Union would allow
:03:00. > :03:04.the Scottish Government to keep charging these two students from the
:03:05. > :03:10.remaining parts of the UK. It would be hard to find many people from the
:03:11. > :03:15.Scottish higher education system to say it would be possible to carry on
:03:16. > :03:21.charging. Scottish universities want certainty over their funding for the
:03:22. > :03:25.future. They do not like changes. Our UK students are already bringing
:03:26. > :03:29.in quite a lot of money into the system through their fees. Opponents
:03:30. > :03:36.of independence for quick to seize on the findings. It demonstrates
:03:37. > :03:41.there is a black hole at the centre of the University funding plan. It
:03:42. > :03:45.needs to demonstrate how that would come up with ?120 million and
:03:46. > :03:51.possibly more, that has been missing from budgets. If the Scottish
:03:52. > :03:55.Government is celebrating a victory in September, will be a Scottish
:03:56. > :04:00.universities be happy? Just before we came on air, I caught
:04:01. > :04:04.up with Mike Russell. I asked him to explain what he of the special
:04:05. > :04:08.circumstances where that would enable an independent Scotland to
:04:09. > :04:14.continue to charge fees to students from the rest of the UK. Our present
:04:15. > :04:18.policy, we were told again and again, has never been successfully
:04:19. > :04:23.challenged. There are a number of special circumstances. We share our
:04:24. > :04:29.border with a country that has the highest bees in Europe and it may go
:04:30. > :04:33.higher. There is likely to be an influx of students and we see that
:04:34. > :04:38.from recent figures. They will go across to cheaper areas. There is a
:04:39. > :04:44.real and present danger to the economy if we did not protect these
:04:45. > :04:48.places. We presently have 14,500 students from the rest of the UK and
:04:49. > :04:56.they are very welcome. If that number were to rise by even 1% --
:04:57. > :05:02.buy as much as 10%, we would exclude Scottish undergraduates. We would
:05:03. > :05:07.also undermine our own economy. About 18% of those students from
:05:08. > :05:13.Scotland to go to Scottish universities, actually stay here to
:05:14. > :05:19.work. The number who stay from the rest of the United Kingdom is around
:05:20. > :05:23.30%. Very quickly we would lose a skilled generation. That would be
:05:24. > :05:27.intolerable. There are strong reasons, and they are not just
:05:28. > :05:32.reasons for the Scottish Government, independent legal advice has pointed
:05:33. > :05:38.this out as well. This is a policy that we proceed and we will continue
:05:39. > :05:44.to proceed. If the rest of the UK, which I think is perceiving an
:05:45. > :05:46.ill-advised policy, if we were to abandon that policy, I would be
:05:47. > :05:52.happy to go back to the policy that once existed. You do not seem to
:05:53. > :05:55.have convinced the Scottish universities. They said the
:05:56. > :06:03.government must lay out its reasoning clearly. They do not seem
:06:04. > :06:07.to have any confidence in it. I do not think that is correct.
:06:08. > :06:14.Independent legal advice I quoted came from advice sought by the
:06:15. > :06:19.universities in Scotland. In addition, universities know how well
:06:20. > :06:24.funded the situation is in Scotland. I know they look south of the border
:06:25. > :06:28.with horror at what is taking place. The Scottish Parliament does not
:06:29. > :06:35.pass laws that are not compatible with European law, it simply cannot
:06:36. > :06:40.do so. There is a firm proposal. It is already operating and operating
:06:41. > :06:45.legally. You tell us that the policy as it exists has never been
:06:46. > :06:49.challenged in the courts. The truth is it would be a completely
:06:50. > :06:53.different situation. An independent country would be seen to be
:06:54. > :06:59.discriminating against students from another member state. That is why
:07:00. > :07:02.students from across the UK -- did you are not charged fees in Scottish
:07:03. > :07:10.universities. It sees -- seems plain that students in the UK must have
:07:11. > :07:13.free fees as well. You'll mac unless there is justification and that is
:07:14. > :07:17.quite clearly understood in European law. I would love to be in a
:07:18. > :07:24.position where we can say we will go back to the system we once operated
:07:25. > :07:27.on. But when you go back to a system that is charging the highest bees in
:07:28. > :07:36.Europe, and these fees may well go up, -- highest fees. You need to
:07:37. > :07:41.make sure that Scottish students can come to local universities. We must
:07:42. > :07:46.have a fairer system. We have a great mix of students. These things
:07:47. > :07:52.are what we do now, these things work and these are the policies we
:07:53. > :07:58.will proceed. I have heard so often that these policies will be
:07:59. > :08:05.challenged. It is based upon domicile and not nationality and not
:08:06. > :08:08.race. It is a practical approach. It is what people want to continue and
:08:09. > :08:13.my job is to make sure that is the case. If there is a yes vote in
:08:14. > :08:19.September, the only way this will be settled this in court. We are
:08:20. > :08:22.entirely confident that this conforms to European law. This is
:08:23. > :08:27.the system that will work for us and we have a good case and we will
:08:28. > :08:31.argue that case. We have intoned before that we will be challenged
:08:32. > :08:37.and this is a constant threat on behalf of those who want done to
:08:38. > :08:44.rise tire education. -- want monitor iced higher education. The debt that
:08:45. > :08:49.students have is three times as high south of the border as it is in
:08:50. > :08:52.Scotland. I do not want that system and I do not think Scottish students
:08:53. > :08:59.or Scottish families want bad. We will continue with the successful
:09:00. > :09:04.policy that we have. Thank you. The Education Secretary talking to
:09:05. > :09:08.me earlier. The billboard shout if not now, then fine, but they are not
:09:09. > :09:13.talking about the referendum. It is an advert for Visit Scotland.
:09:14. > :09:18.Tourism is a multi-billion pound industry employing over ?200,000
:09:19. > :09:33.people, but what effect would independence have? We continue with
:09:34. > :09:39.Laura Bicker's triathlon series. I am now going on the waves. My legs
:09:40. > :09:44.are getting a rest and I take a ferry to the island. I am going to
:09:45. > :09:50.the island of Skype. These passengers have come from all over.
:09:51. > :09:55.This tourist trade is with ?11 billion to Scotland. Some fear that
:09:56. > :10:01.independence will take the industry of course. There are concerns over
:10:02. > :10:09.borders and currency. If you years ago I too would in Europe. -- I went
:10:10. > :10:18.around Europe. I think it will make of exclusive. People will see it as
:10:19. > :10:26.being branded better. I think it might put some people off. People
:10:27. > :10:31.are divided. It is time to get moving. I am going to find out what
:10:32. > :10:35.people on the island think. Unfortunately the weather takes a
:10:36. > :10:41.turn for the worse. This man is used to these conditions. He has just run
:10:42. > :10:46.the length of the island, 125 miles all in all. Tourism is very
:10:47. > :10:51.important for people here. The majority of April are employed here.
:10:52. > :11:03.It makes up a huge part of the economy. -- majority of the bulb. I
:11:04. > :11:13.work in the Hebrides. You know all of the island. Yes, I do. I find
:11:14. > :11:26.someone who is trying to bring more visitors to the island. I am Scott.
:11:27. > :11:31.Welcome. I will show you around. This man is building a new business.
:11:32. > :11:36.He is creating a glamorous camping site. He wants people to come to
:11:37. > :11:41.stay, not just for the day, and that is why he is voting yes in the
:11:42. > :11:48.referendum. Scotland has an amazing brand. Governing itself, eating its
:11:49. > :11:55.own country, not having to follow the same rules as the rest of the
:11:56. > :12:01.UK, it would elevate that round. -- being its own country. I ran through
:12:02. > :12:06.these pretty streets trying to find someone who would this agree with
:12:07. > :12:12.him but most people told me they felt independence would benefit
:12:13. > :12:16.tourism. They thought a cut in Air Passenger Duty would make it easier
:12:17. > :12:23.getting here. I know this view is not typical. The scenery and
:12:24. > :12:26.wildlife tours may be stunning, but Scotland still only gets one eighth
:12:27. > :12:32.of the overseas visitors to travel to London. At this new gallery and
:12:33. > :12:44.tearoom of the beaten track I find one couple willing to do to tail me
:12:45. > :12:50.why they are going to vote no. With a good to have some of the local
:12:51. > :12:55.things. It is possible to do that within the bounds of the United
:12:56. > :13:01.Kingdom. Absolutely. Even a federal United Kingdom. Do you think we are
:13:02. > :13:05.doing enough with the powers that be have? It is early days. The Scottish
:13:06. > :13:16.Parliament has not been here that long and it needs to develop. As I
:13:17. > :13:23.run through the rain and villages, you can see the of selling this
:13:24. > :13:31.island. Some feel independence is a step too far. It is an extra risky
:13:32. > :13:37.hurdle. Others feel it will make the brand that much stronger. The one
:13:38. > :13:40.constant with this island and Scotland is that it is, and always
:13:41. > :13:48.will be, usable, in whatever political climate that we choose.
:13:49. > :13:52.Laura Bicker there. Here in the studio are too gentle man steeped in
:13:53. > :13:57.the Scottish tourism industry. Andrew Fairlie is a chef and Ray
:13:58. > :14:02.Lorimer is the chairman of the Institute of is it all at it. I give
:14:03. > :14:06.both for coming in. People talk about the brand of Scotland and how
:14:07. > :14:12.that would change, but it is an identifiable brand already. Andrew
:14:13. > :14:19.Fairlie, how would it be different? You are absolutely right. The brand
:14:20. > :14:27.is hugely successful. It is hugely recognisable. I think Scotland, or
:14:28. > :14:31.the rebirth of Scotland, is one of Europe's oldest nation states, I
:14:32. > :14:38.think that will attract a lot of attention to Scotland. I think the
:14:39. > :14:44.world die Hasbro for local people, I think that would take a huge
:14:45. > :14:50.interest and I think it will attract new visitors to Scotland. I cannot
:14:51. > :15:09.see a downside to independence. Ray Lorimer, your members, what did they
:15:10. > :15:18.tell you they want to see we have conducted surveys. The general
:15:19. > :15:25.feeling is that for the particular group, that was against, but that
:15:26. > :15:33.was a snapshot. In real terms, it was a small sample of the wider
:15:34. > :15:34.population. The very clearly were uncertain and that is the biggest
:15:35. > :16:02.issue. We would get on with it. There would
:16:03. > :16:07.be uncertainty prior and afterwards. I think life would go on. Scotland
:16:08. > :16:13.is a great brand and it always will be. It's just some people disagree
:16:14. > :16:18.with the move forward. Most of it as you come to Scotland come through
:16:19. > :16:21.London first. They visit there, maybe travel through direct the UK
:16:22. > :16:25.before they get to Scotland. Might they get put off by the idea if they
:16:26. > :16:29.thought that Scotland was a separate country, if they thought there might
:16:30. > :16:33.be some difficulty to get there. Is it the unity of the UK that makes it
:16:34. > :16:39.easy for tourist to get around? On the contrary, I think that with the
:16:40. > :16:47.tax system, the duty. That is a tax that is designed specifically for
:16:48. > :16:58.London. In 2007, it doubled. The fares have gone up anywhere between
:16:59. > :17:02.160% to 360%. That is the tax designed to London because London is
:17:03. > :17:07.at capacity. Airlines and airport chiefs are saying that that needs to
:17:08. > :17:14.change and the only way we are going to attract more visitors to Scotland
:17:15. > :17:17.is to reduce that air passenger duty. The Scottish Government have
:17:18. > :17:24.pledged already that they will reduce the duty immediately by 50%.
:17:25. > :17:26.When public finances allow they will abolish it or together. Thank you
:17:27. > :17:29.for coming to talk to us. Now arguably little has done more to
:17:30. > :17:31.raise Scotland's international film At a red carpet bash in Edinburgh,
:17:32. > :17:44.to celebrate the re-release of Braveheart on DVD,
:17:45. > :17:46.I caught up with the film?s star, Brian Cox, and began by asking him
:17:47. > :18:03.why he thought the film had such I think we had come through,
:18:04. > :18:09.Scotland had come through a particular bad time with the poll
:18:10. > :18:16.tax in light of what had happened. The industrialisation of Scotland.
:18:17. > :18:19.Scotland 's face was robbed a little bit in the mud. People will not
:18:20. > :18:24.feeling at their best at the beginning of the 1990s. They were
:18:25. > :18:29.feeling a bit hard done by. Of course, you never know that because
:18:30. > :18:33.the Scots are not one to complain. They are great at long-suffering,
:18:34. > :18:39.they have almost developing naphtha long-suffering. I think the film
:18:40. > :18:50.released something. Then, the global significance of the film, Oscar
:18:51. > :18:57.Wilde, -- rock Oscar Wise, it got stronger. The film coming out at the
:18:58. > :19:01.time and contributing towards the Scottish psyche, did it contribute
:19:02. > :19:08.to where we are now with the referendum? Yes, I think it did. In
:19:09. > :19:16.those days, I worse in the opposite persuasion. I was very much a no
:19:17. > :19:22.then. Looking at my own history, going back 60 years and seeing how I
:19:23. > :19:29.grew up in Dundee and what happened. Health Scotland -- how Scotland has
:19:30. > :19:32.progressed, wanting to be its own country, I did think it's a bad
:19:33. > :19:36.thing, I think it's a very good thing. I think that Braveheart
:19:37. > :19:41.certainly contributed, not necessarily to me, I come from a
:19:42. > :19:47.different route, but I think it contributed to a lot of people. It
:19:48. > :19:52.appeals to the heart. People are always going on about the struggle
:19:53. > :19:56.between the heart and the head. We have to think like this, we have to
:19:57. > :20:04.be canny, we operate good at that. We can tie ourselves up in knots.
:20:05. > :20:10.There is an act of faith in striving towards something. And in seeking
:20:11. > :20:15.independence. There has to be an enormous act of faith in that. There
:20:16. > :20:19.are no guarantees. There are people in the SNP and in the independence
:20:20. > :20:24.campaign who feel quite uncomfortable with what is called
:20:25. > :20:30.Braveheart nationalism, the feeling that it is anti-English. Pat Kane
:20:31. > :20:34.said, if and when it comes, it will be a question of law and economic.
:20:35. > :20:42.The last thing we needed the stench of Gibson 's xenophobic feelings in
:20:43. > :20:56.our nostrils. I think that is true. It is an allegory, it's not real. It
:20:57. > :21:02.is a piece of art, a creation. Mel certainly didn't intend it to
:21:03. > :21:11.quantify. He saw people that were oppressed. At that time people were
:21:12. > :21:15.very impressed. The story will always be how the head-bangers
:21:16. > :21:18.associate with it. I don't think that's a very good story. That
:21:19. > :21:24.doesn't give the yes vote any favours. It's like the recent staff,
:21:25. > :21:29.with JK Rowling which I disapprove of. I am totally against that. That
:21:30. > :21:33.is not the way to behave. You suggest that you might come back and
:21:34. > :21:37.live in an independent Scotland. I would. If they could do something
:21:38. > :21:40.about the dam and the arthritis. If they could fix the weather in an
:21:41. > :21:52.independent Scotland you would be back? That's right! Fife is one of
:21:53. > :21:57.my dreams. It's gotten vote no, you won't be coming back? No, I will
:21:58. > :22:07.still be coming back. If Scotland vote no, life will go on. We will
:22:08. > :22:12.get what we will get. A fact. I hope we do become independent. I do think
:22:13. > :22:17.it's going to be what everyone thinks it will be. It's not about
:22:18. > :22:24.them and arson. It's not about being exclusive to something, it's about
:22:25. > :22:29.being inclusive. Saying we can do it on our own two feet. I am not at the
:22:30. > :22:31.behest of anyone else. That was Brian Cox.
:22:32. > :22:34.This evening, to chat through some of the top stories of the day,
:22:35. > :22:37.I'm joined by the editor of the Scotland?s newest news magazine,
:22:38. > :22:42.And the Editor of The Big Issue, Paul McNamee.
:22:43. > :22:48.Let the others you both about Braveheart. It was interesting,
:22:49. > :22:51.Brian Cox saying that it had meant to but it had had a significant
:22:52. > :22:56.impact on the politics of Scotland over the last 20 years. Do you think
:22:57. > :22:59.that is true? Would I remember, not having lived in Scotland at the time
:23:00. > :23:07.it came out, and not being Scottish, is how Mel Gibson spoke
:23:08. > :23:11.how they look of Scots spoke. I was terribly disappointed to find that
:23:12. > :23:15.he didn't really speak like that. I am not sure if it had a huge impact
:23:16. > :23:18.on the politics of Scotland, but it certainly has had an impact on how
:23:19. > :23:24.people outside of Scotland view the politics of Scotland. I think it
:23:25. > :23:31.hasn't done any harm at all to people liking the Scots, the plucky
:23:32. > :23:36.Scots. Steve, do you think it is a political event when Braveheart came
:23:37. > :23:42.out? I don't think so. But you didn't roar at the cry of the dome
:23:43. > :23:49.-- freedom or cheer when the Scots border backside at the English. It
:23:50. > :23:54.certainly set a marker. Five times weather has been enduring political
:23:55. > :23:57.sentiments. It is highly appropriate that the 20th anniversary of the
:23:58. > :24:03.movie is now. They should bring it back. I am particularly pleased to
:24:04. > :24:06.see that Brian Cox is going to get some sunshine in Fife in an
:24:07. > :24:10.independent Scotland. That is something we can or cheer about. The
:24:11. > :24:14.big news of the day is a result of the hacking trial at the Old Bailey.
:24:15. > :24:23.Andy Coulson guilty of phone hacking, Rebekah Brooks ponds the
:24:24. > :24:28.micro not guilty. Were you surprised when you heard the news? I think the
:24:29. > :24:33.news broke in the newsroom in the middle of the day. It was a
:24:34. > :24:36.surprise. These things suddenly come very quickly, having followed the
:24:37. > :24:43.case for a very long time. Lots of money spent, lots of words said.
:24:44. > :24:48.When the verdict came through, one guilty, the rest not guilty, I think
:24:49. > :24:53.there was some surprise at that. That made it even more of a story.
:24:54. > :25:00.What was the reaction in your newsroom? In our small magazine
:25:01. > :25:04.office, I think there was a lot of focus on the tennis at the time.
:25:05. > :25:07.This broke that kind of revelry and had people rating to twitter to
:25:08. > :25:12.follow anybody that they could to see what was happening. The real
:25:13. > :25:17.significance could be the David Cameron. After he left the News of
:25:18. > :25:23.the World, Andy Coulson was employed as Cameron's press spokesman. Today
:25:24. > :25:27.Cameron apologised for having employed him but said that he had
:25:28. > :25:28.asked about it and Coulson had said he had nothing to do with phone
:25:29. > :25:46.hacking. Is that apology enough? Tamara's papers will be full of what
:25:47. > :25:55.a humiliation this is the David Cameron. Is it going to do any damp
:25:56. > :25:58.could damage? When you bring someone in to the government to act as you
:25:59. > :26:04.bring someone in to the government to act as your and I don't think
:26:05. > :26:09.that even Andy Coulson himself could have spun David Cameron out of this
:26:10. > :26:14.one. He has made an apology, it may not be enough as we have seen for
:26:15. > :26:19.some people. I don't really know what more he can do. He got wrong,
:26:20. > :26:24.he got it badly wrong, he asked the questions that needed to be asked,
:26:25. > :26:28.he says. He got the answers that reassured him and then he was let
:26:29. > :26:33.down by someone, at that time whom he considered to be a friend. He was
:26:34. > :26:37.badly let down and he has apologised. Yes he is going to get
:26:38. > :26:42.pelted the next few days and certainly a hard time when he next
:26:43. > :26:46.comes to Parliament. The Labour Party have been tweeting that he
:26:47. > :26:47.brought eight the middle into the heart of Downing Street quoting Ed
:26:48. > :27:04.Miliband. This will make labour David Cameron
:27:05. > :27:09.as uncomfortable as you can. They need to be careful showing too much
:27:10. > :27:15.judgement because at the heart of this was the phone hacking of Millie
:27:16. > :27:20.Dowler, which really collapsed the whole house of cards that led to the
:27:21. > :27:25.closing of a newspaper. Still, at heart, it was a missing girl, a
:27:26. > :27:28.murdered girl 's phone who was hacked. And that was a terrible
:27:29. > :27:33.thing to happen. To push too hard in a political correction might start
:27:34. > :27:37.to move back on that. You can understand why the Labour Party are
:27:38. > :27:43.angry about it. What happened during because the trial was that many
:27:44. > :27:49.Cabinet ministers realised they were being targeted by the News of the
:27:50. > :27:52.World. One key bit of evidence was that he was hacking David
:27:53. > :27:56.Blunkett's mistresses. We have heard recordings of that today. They wed
:27:57. > :28:01.after other Cabinet ministers as well. It is inevitable that they
:28:02. > :28:07.will be a little gleeful about this. That's true. But they weren't just
:28:08. > :28:13.going after Labour politicians. One of the most unpleasant things is
:28:14. > :28:17.that the people they would after were, not that I'm going to have a
:28:18. > :28:21.go at Calum Best, but when you are hacking people like Calum Best, you
:28:22. > :28:26.are thinking what is going on in journalism? Now the hacking trial is
:28:27. > :28:28.over and we have had delivers an enquiry, has it changed to
:28:29. > :28:34.journalism? Everything that we learned about the News of the World?
:28:35. > :28:42.I think it has. This practice is not widespread, and it has always been
:28:43. > :28:45.illegal to do most of these acts. This is something people should
:28:46. > :28:51.remember and I am sure they know the stop we have seen today, somebody
:28:52. > :28:56.brought to justice about this. They do very much. That is that from us
:28:57. > :29:08.tonight, do join is at the same time tomorrow.
:29:09. > :29:12.Hello, Glastonbury! CHEERING
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:29:22. > :29:28.Hello, Glastonbury. How you doing, Glastonbury?