:00:00. > :00:27.Scotland's most successful games ever, as we break our medal record.
:00:28. > :00:29.Glasgow is basking in golden glory tonight as Scotland
:00:30. > :00:33.wins more Commonwealth medals than ever before.
:00:34. > :00:35.As the city celebrates, we are looking at Glasgow's
:00:36. > :00:40.How it links us to some of our Commonwealth guests and why
:00:41. > :00:45.And whilst we are enjoying Scottish success, we will be talking
:00:46. > :00:51.about what means to be British with a leading Scottish nationalist.
:00:52. > :00:53.This week Scottish athletes are pitted against English,
:00:54. > :00:58.At other events we are all cheering for Team GB.
:00:59. > :01:03.Many of us consider ours elves to be both.
:01:04. > :01:06.Including some prominent Scottish nationalists who are voting yes,
:01:07. > :01:09.but say they are just as British as the next person.
:01:10. > :01:11.Now, in the first of two authored films
:01:12. > :01:13.by politicians looking at national identity and how it will affect
:01:14. > :01:26.the referendum, the SNP MP Pete Wishart embraces his Britishness.
:01:27. > :01:33.Campaigning for an independent Scotland has meant I have had to do
:01:34. > :01:38.this within the heart of the British state, commuting every week to
:01:39. > :01:44.Parliament that I want my nation to leave. But I have come to an
:01:45. > :01:50.accommodation with Britishness and more than that, it is something I am
:01:51. > :01:54.comfortable with. Not easy for someone who is a member of the SNP
:01:55. > :02:01.to admit to because historically it is a message that people in the Yes
:02:02. > :02:05.campaign had not wanted to hear. I arranged to meet one of the first
:02:06. > :02:15.SNP figures to come out at against -- about being pro-British. You took
:02:16. > :02:19.up this issue about 15 years ago. That was quite a radical thing to do
:02:20. > :02:25.and there was a mixed response. How did the debate has developed since
:02:26. > :02:30.then? At the time I had the observation
:02:31. > :02:38.speaking to my parents that they felt a deep loyalty towards many
:02:39. > :02:43.institutions of Britishness but they will vote yes now in the referendum
:02:44. > :02:48.because they see no contradiction. Scottishness became more confident
:02:49. > :02:56.in the 1980s and 1990s and with revolution there is no threat to us,
:02:57. > :03:01.we have our own Parliament. But what powers should it have. I think
:03:02. > :03:06.things have grown up and there is a long distance to travel which will
:03:07. > :03:14.be more and happy list to be when we have control of our own affairs and
:03:15. > :03:19.do not define ourselves by our flag. I do not think I'm alone in being
:03:20. > :03:24.relaxed about British as being a feature in Scotland. It is just a
:03:25. > :03:27.fact of life. To help me through this maze of identity politics I
:03:28. > :03:34.have enlisted reverser James Mitchell. The sense of Scottishness
:03:35. > :03:38.is much more powerful than a sense of British as but that is not to
:03:39. > :03:44.deny the existence of a British identity. They must have come a
:03:45. > :03:49.stage when people felt culturally secure enough to say it. Is there
:03:50. > :03:56.anything that has been a cultural tipping point, to say we are now
:03:57. > :04:01.more Scottish than British? In the past there was always a sense that
:04:02. > :04:05.Scottishness was under attack. Now we feel secure in our Scottishness
:04:06. > :04:11.and it is Britishness which is now less secure. More is written and
:04:12. > :04:20.spoken about Britishness than Scottishness.
:04:21. > :04:23.In many ways this is about acknowledging that our identities
:04:24. > :04:28.are shifting and multiple and that is fine.
:04:29. > :04:36.In my experience it is Unionist politicians who are trying to make
:04:37. > :04:45.it far too black and white. And they use identity to miss represent the
:04:46. > :04:51.yes case. They said nationalists do not have patriotism all to
:04:52. > :04:59.themselves but we never said any such thing. One campaigner got me
:05:00. > :05:04.analysing messages. Those on the no side are the ones introducing
:05:05. > :05:10.identity into the campaign. Scotland has moved considerably in the past
:05:11. > :05:14.ten or 14 years and if you hear some of the pronouncements from the
:05:15. > :05:18.Labour politicians who have entered stage left in recent weeks, it is
:05:19. > :05:25.almost as if they're stuck in the 1970s time warp. Scotland has moved
:05:26. > :05:28.and shifted considerably. I do not see myself as a
:05:29. > :05:33.nationalists. I believe in self-determination and in the right
:05:34. > :05:36.of our nation to be a member state, a normal country the same as
:05:37. > :05:44.everyone else. Some may define that as being nationalists but is the
:05:45. > :05:51.independence as a means to an end. I am a utilitarian independence
:05:52. > :05:56.supporter. What I'm trying to say I suppose is
:05:57. > :06:00.that Scottishness, Britishness, is a fantastic feature of this incredible
:06:01. > :06:06.nation we live in. Our diversity is very much our strength. What is not
:06:07. > :06:10.welcome is those who try to please advise identity issues to bring it
:06:11. > :06:14.into the debate as if it is Scottishness against Britishness.
:06:15. > :06:18.That is something we should be concerned about.
:06:19. > :06:21.And Pete Wishart is here with us this evening,
:06:22. > :06:29.and joined by the Scottish Liberal Democrat Leader, Willie Rennie.
:06:30. > :06:36.You stand accused of making it the choice between Scottish and
:06:37. > :06:40.Britishness. Well we credit Pete for his dramatic change in position. At
:06:41. > :06:47.one stage he says is Scotland moves to become an independent nation, all
:06:48. > :06:54.the stages of Britishness will go. I do not know what Britishness even
:06:55. > :06:59.is. Now he is its biggest fan. If nationalism is an independent and is
:07:00. > :07:03.not about identity, I do not know what is. They spent all their time
:07:04. > :07:09.talking about distinct Scottish values. How different we are. Why
:07:10. > :07:13.otherwise would they want to do something different and have a
:07:14. > :07:19.separate nation. It is all about identity. That is where their
:07:20. > :07:23.mission in life is. -- what. We know the institutions would be different
:07:24. > :07:32.in an independent Scotland, but how do the values different -- if? Were
:07:33. > :07:37.all secure about our Scottishness and feel the necessity to try to
:07:38. > :07:43.define Britishness. We have seen some clumsy attempt, who could
:07:44. > :07:50.forget the excruciating effort of Gordon Brown just a few years ago.
:07:51. > :07:57.There have been some meaning all attempts to define it as well. --
:07:58. > :08:01.meaningful. I see no contradiction whatsoever with being profoundly
:08:02. > :08:06.Scottish and at the same time embracing the 300 years of shared
:08:07. > :08:14.culture experience we have had within these islands. It is not what
:08:15. > :08:18.the referendum is about, it is about how and from where we are governed.
:08:19. > :08:23.To get onto this meaningless debate about identity is just so boring. It
:08:24. > :08:31.is nothing that I hear on the doorstep. Only the Unionists droned
:08:32. > :08:35.on about this. The SNP has been on a long journey to the position that
:08:36. > :08:41.you are at now. Things have changed in the party. That is about not
:08:42. > :08:49.scaring voters, keeping the Queen is the monarch, keeping the currency.
:08:50. > :08:58.We have all been on a remarkable journey over the past few years.
:08:59. > :09:06.There has been an attack from within the party. The independence movement
:09:07. > :09:12.has moved on. What it demonstrates is that we had an inclusive and
:09:13. > :09:19.civic movement, we want to celebrate our diversity, or cultural are
:09:20. > :09:24.welcome. Contrast that with the announcement today, when people
:09:25. > :09:30.outside of the UK will have their benefits cut again. Where on a
:09:31. > :09:37.different -- a different political trajectory.
:09:38. > :09:39.It is a cynical ploy to try to reassure people who regard
:09:40. > :10:15.themselves as British that it is want.
:10:16. > :10:20.We want to make sure we get the levers of economic power, the
:10:21. > :11:44.supporters of independence. You are trying to characterise our case
:11:45. > :11:49.The aim was always to win more medals than at any other previous
:11:50. > :11:53.Jonathan Sutherland joins us now from the Tollcross
:11:54. > :12:11.And the final day of action here in the pool.
:12:12. > :12:25.Scotland have made real splash here when it comes to winning medals.
:12:26. > :12:36.Today Scotland currently have 13 gold medals, 11 silver and 13 bronze
:12:37. > :12:40.medal. We have slipped down the table to fourth place from third
:12:41. > :12:45.place but we have a total of 37 medals this evening. A huge
:12:46. > :12:53.achievement for Team Scotland and it all began earlier today elsewhere in
:12:54. > :12:58.Glasgow. So much focus on Team Scotland
:12:59. > :13:03.beating the record Commonwealth record tally, it always looked like
:13:04. > :13:13.happening at these games and when it did it happened here at the SECC.
:13:14. > :13:22.Lovely height. He just makes that look easy. The breakthrough medal
:13:23. > :13:32.came in the team gymnastics. Daniel Purvis took silver. Scotland's 34th
:13:33. > :13:40.medal at these games. An emotional moment for these young Scots.
:13:41. > :13:45.After that is the point of a bronze yesterday, a better day for Jen
:13:46. > :13:51.McIntosh. Briefly at the top of the leaderboard, she finished with
:13:52. > :14:02.silver. This was number 35 for Scotland. Dan Wallace's bright was
:14:03. > :14:10.not in doubt. A powerful finish and another medal for Scotland. Another
:14:11. > :14:14.silver. It has been a good day for Team
:14:15. > :14:20.Scotland. But there was some support and in the 1500 metres for law your
:14:21. > :14:24.finished outside the medals. But better luck in the hammer
:14:25. > :14:30.competition. And the final medal of the day for Team Scotland. Taking
:14:31. > :14:39.the bronze medal and rounding off a fantastic day once again for Team
:14:40. > :14:43.Scotland. And we look forward to an exciting day tomorrow at the
:14:44. > :14:50.diving? James Heatley, a 17-year-old Young
:14:51. > :14:59.Scot going up against Tom Bailey. He has already beaten Tom Daley earlier
:15:00. > :15:05.on this year. But he is following in big footsteps. His grandfather
:15:06. > :15:12.actually got five Commonwealth gold medal back in the day. In 1950, 1954
:15:13. > :15:15.and 1958. He will be watching tomorrow pretty big reputation to
:15:16. > :15:20.follow up. Over the last few days visitors
:15:21. > :15:23.from across the world have been marvelling at some of the impressive
:15:24. > :15:25.architecture and magnificent Monuments to
:15:26. > :15:27.the city's wealthy past. But rarely do we discuss where
:15:28. > :15:29.the money came from. Our economics correspondent
:15:30. > :15:31.Colletta Smith has been looking at Glasgow's hidden history
:15:32. > :15:52.and its shameful connections to If the Merchant City was buzzing
:15:53. > :15:57.today with food from all over the Commonwealth. But this cafe is
:15:58. > :16:06.tackling a very different part of Scotland's historic relationship
:16:07. > :16:14.with the Commonwealth. Through talks, one please and debate, the
:16:15. > :16:22.story of how Scotland benefited from the slave trade is being described.
:16:23. > :16:31.It rocked a great deal of money into Scotland. We went from a developing
:16:32. > :16:37.nation to being a very rich nation. A site that we can be proud of as
:16:38. > :16:43.well, the abolition. We have been on both sides of history. He's huge
:16:44. > :16:53.part of Scotland's foster economic boom was fuelled by trade into
:16:54. > :17:01.battle, sugar and cotton. It is he has to leave that is not often
:17:02. > :17:05.talked about. One thought of the people in Jamaica have Scottish
:17:06. > :17:16.surnames, because we were owned by Scottish plantation orders. The
:17:17. > :17:29.names of these streets, all of these were slave owning Plantation is. --
:17:30. > :17:32.plantations. According to the organisers, it is not just the
:17:33. > :17:38.Commonwealth Games that make this the perfect moment to confront the
:17:39. > :17:42.history. Scotland is looking to its rule in the world, and the kind of
:17:43. > :17:53.country that it wants to be. This is a good time. It is a good time to
:17:54. > :18:02.address the less palatable past. To move or any progressive way. And
:18:03. > :18:11.with me to explore Scotland's And with me to explore Scotland's
:18:12. > :18:15.slavery past is the pre-eminent Scientist and Author, the recently
:18:16. > :18:22.knighted Professor Geoff Palmer. Why is it with well-known that Glasgow
:18:23. > :18:30.was built on this slave trade? It is a result of historians. They ignore
:18:31. > :18:44.this. One of our historians, they actually starts it off... I find
:18:45. > :18:52.unnecessary. It started in the 1970s, when you book was written on
:18:53. > :18:58.the Tobacco Lords. The word slave is mentioned in the index, but it is
:18:59. > :19:03.not mentioned in the text. I think what has happened, it has not got
:19:04. > :19:08.into the textbooks and the curriculum and therefore people do
:19:09. > :19:13.not normally what about it. People are probably embarrassed. In
:19:14. > :19:20.Jamaica, are the connections better known? To some degree, yes. But even
:19:21. > :19:28.in Jamaica, a lot of the textbooks were published in Britain and in
:19:29. > :19:38.Scotland. We suffer from the same sort of mark of information. -- lack
:19:39. > :19:45.of. But what you have said is not entirely so. When I deftly shows,
:19:46. > :19:53.the one repeating question which the Scottish people put to me as why has
:19:54. > :19:59.nobody told us about this before. Tonight, we saw a Jamaican athlete
:20:00. > :20:07.winning a medal. He had a Scottish sounding name. The connections are
:20:08. > :20:17.obvious? Correct. When we look at some of the names, McPherson,
:20:18. > :20:24.Campbell, all in the Commonwealth team, this is not unusual. And when
:20:25. > :20:41.we looked at the Jamaican table phone directory, 70% of the names
:20:42. > :20:50.have Scottish surnames. 2500 Tamils. -- Campbells. Should Scotland have a
:20:51. > :21:10.closer and better connection to the Caribbean? I think so yes. This
:21:11. > :21:14.programme attests to it. It acknowledges the link between
:21:15. > :21:22.Scotland and the Caribbean. I think it is important that Scotland plays
:21:23. > :21:26.a part, just as in with some countries in Africa, it should take
:21:27. > :21:32.an interest in developing various countries in the Caribbean. We all
:21:33. > :21:44.know about Scotland's connections with Mullally. -- Malawi. I would
:21:45. > :21:50.not like what money to be taken only from one deprived country to
:21:51. > :21:59.another. But scope, for acknowledging that Jamaica, we the
:22:00. > :22:14.link between Scotland and Jamaica started in about 17 or seven. --
:22:15. > :22:22.1707. When the union was signed, Article four days the Scottish
:22:23. > :22:32.people permission to go to the plantations and they went as British
:22:33. > :22:43.people. The world can be seen in the lovely picture that you have shown.
:22:44. > :22:46.Thank you for joining us. Now let's have a look at the other stories
:22:47. > :22:56.making the headlines around the world tonight. The New York Times
:22:57. > :23:03.reports that the European Union has expanded sanctions against Russia.
:23:04. > :23:09.On al-Jazeera, officials have claimed that another 100 people have
:23:10. > :23:16.died in Palestine. And also, the spread of the deadly virus in West
:23:17. > :23:18.Africa. Joining me now to discuss some of the other news stories of
:23:19. > :23:20.the day are Beverly Lyons, entertainment reporter at the Daily
:23:21. > :23:31.Record, and Scotsman columnist Martin Mclaughlin. It has been
:23:32. > :23:42.eagerly made for Scotland, 30 seven medals. You think we ought to
:23:43. > :23:45.obsessed? It is the way to measure success, if you have a certain
:23:46. > :23:50.number of medals then you set the targets, but I think some people at
:23:51. > :23:57.the Commonwealth Games, it is important to look beyond the
:23:58. > :24:07.statistics. Today in the boxing, we had the woman, 18 years old, she
:24:08. > :24:13.was, but irrespective, somebody like this has come to Glasgow, have
:24:14. > :24:18.millions of people potentially watching her, and these are the
:24:19. > :24:22.stories that should be remembered. We have beaten the previous best,
:24:23. > :24:34.and our previous best was 33 and 1986. This time, 1380 medals are
:24:35. > :24:39.available and we have taken 37. Hopefully some more? I do not want
:24:40. > :24:46.to be cynical but is it not cheating? You cannot look at it like
:24:47. > :24:54.that. You have to praise the people who have won the medals. It has
:24:55. > :25:04.definitely brought out the personalities. We have seen the two
:25:05. > :25:10.girls, who won one of the offence. It is about humanising sport. You
:25:11. > :25:15.get to know people. It was a fantastic day for Scotland, a total
:25:16. > :25:18.of eight medals on the very frosty, and it cannot have been a
:25:19. > :25:29.coincidence that the sports we were doing well in or on the frosty? I
:25:30. > :25:40.think it was quite strategic. In judo, we had 14. Swimming as well.
:25:41. > :25:46.In four years, judo will not be part of the Commonwealth Games. It is
:25:47. > :25:51.going to be replaced by basketball. Every country pleas to its
:25:52. > :26:00.strengths. Scotland have been quite savvy. A bit of news from the
:26:01. > :26:06.Commonwealth Games, when a 16-year-old Nigerian weightlifter
:26:07. > :26:13.fielding drugs test. That has made the news from all around the world.
:26:14. > :26:20.You cannot help for feeling sorry for a 16 genome. In this position?
:26:21. > :26:28.She should be celebrating the fact that she is here in Glasgow. I think
:26:29. > :26:34.we are still waiting for the actual test to come through art she may
:26:35. > :26:39.have some reasonably good excuse. We can take a look at that. I know that
:26:40. > :26:46.the Nigerian team have got some form in the past for feeling these doping
:26:47. > :26:52.tests. It is something that should be looked at nationally. If our
:26:53. > :26:59.colleagues feel that they need to take these things. The government
:27:00. > :27:07.had warned of the team specifically. Do you think it is a mistake? If it
:27:08. > :27:11.is then I doubt it is down to the competitor. She is 16. Most
:27:12. > :27:21.16-year-olds do not have a working knowledge of these drugs. Questions
:27:22. > :27:31.have to be asked. Nigeria, as pointed out, have passed from this.
:27:32. > :27:38.Four years ago to athletes were banned after doping at the London
:27:39. > :28:00.Olympics. I hope the truth will come out. What are we going to remember
:28:01. > :28:11.from the Commonwealth Games? The dancing Tunnock's Teacakes? I was
:28:12. > :28:18.going to see that is cheap. I know some people thought it was going to
:28:19. > :28:33.go to Unisys, but it is going back into the Commonwealth Games fund. --
:28:34. > :28:41.Unicef. It was cloned braking to have the Unicef part of the opening
:28:42. > :28:49.ceremony? It is quite studious. It would have been a good move. I am
:28:50. > :29:01.just eager to find out where it goes. I am sure somebody will walk
:29:02. > :29:09.down Sauchiehall Street with it on! Thank you. That is all from the
:29:10. > :29:13.programme. We will be back at the same thing tomorrow. Goodbye.