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:00:00. > :00:00.Tonight we are asking could the Scottish referendum open

:00:00. > :00:27.If Scotland gets more powers, the Westminster parliament could

:00:28. > :00:33.That is according to a Tory MP who thinks that if we vote

:00:34. > :00:38.to stay in the union, it will be English MPs saying no thanks.

:00:39. > :00:40.Who will bring more work to Scotland?

:00:41. > :00:43.Sparks are flying tonight over whether we will have more jobs

:00:44. > :00:46.in an independent Scotland or if we stay within the UK.

:00:47. > :00:50.We will look at the financial cost of our record-breaking success

:00:51. > :00:59.Scotland has been promised more devolution if we vote no

:01:00. > :01:04.And the Scottish Tories have produced one of the most ambitious

:01:05. > :01:06.plans for enhancing the powers of the Scottish Parliament.

:01:07. > :01:09.But tonight the Conservative MP for Wokingham, John Redwood, says that

:01:10. > :01:14.English MPs will not accept this lopsided constitutional arrangement.

:01:15. > :01:18.He thinks the Westminster parliament will need to redress the

:01:19. > :01:23.So does he have an answer to the hoary old West Lothian question?

:01:24. > :01:30.Our correspondent Jamie McIvor has been trying to find out.

:01:31. > :01:36.It is a question about devolution and that always seems to come back

:01:37. > :01:44.around. Why should a Scottish MP at a say on education in England when

:01:45. > :01:48.an English MP has no say on these issues in Scotland? It is named

:01:49. > :01:53.after the distinguished parliamentarian who first raised the

:01:54. > :02:01.problem in the 70s. Tam Dalziel, for many years an MP in West Lothian. We

:02:02. > :02:07.will go down a motorway to a separate state, a journey on which

:02:08. > :02:14.many of us do not want to embark. The issue has been raised again. I

:02:15. > :02:19.think it is time England had more voices. This time by a conservative

:02:20. > :02:24.who expects Scotland to stay in the UK. Tonight John Redwood gave a new

:02:25. > :02:30.lease of life to a possible solution proposed in his party's last

:02:31. > :02:36.manifesto. The answer is English votes for English issues in the

:02:37. > :02:40.Westminster Parliament. That is an answer the Scottish Nationalists

:02:41. > :02:46.accept. It is an answer the SNP on principle has said we should not

:02:47. > :02:50.vote on issues on England in the House of Commons, because it is not

:02:51. > :02:55.to do with us. I am saying that should apply more generally. The

:02:56. > :03:05.fault line was established as soon as devolution happens. But sometimes

:03:06. > :03:11.legislation which does not affect Scotland directly can still have a

:03:12. > :03:15.knock-on effect. John Redwood believes deciding what Scottish MPs

:03:16. > :03:19.could and could not vote on could be done fairly. They have not been

:03:20. > :03:24.problems in the past with Scotland claiming jurisdiction we do not

:03:25. > :03:29.think they own. Where Scotland says, this is our business, we in England

:03:30. > :03:35.will decide on England as a group of English MPs. This is a piecemeal or

:03:36. > :03:41.asymmetric structure of the British political system. There is one set

:03:42. > :03:45.of devolved powers for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. For

:03:46. > :03:50.supporters of independence the best answer to the dilemma is obvious.

:03:51. > :03:54.But should there be a no vote, either other solutions? Whether

:03:55. > :03:59.somebody south of the border sees this West Lothian question as a

:04:00. > :04:06.problem or not, it is clear there is not a very strong appetite, not yet

:04:07. > :04:10.anyway. It may come for Jamie Whyte, regional self-government in

:04:11. > :04:15.other parts of England. I would see that as a positive whether Scotland

:04:16. > :04:19.is part of the UK or not. If it does not, perhaps it suggests most people

:04:20. > :04:25.are not too bothered about this minor anomaly. If Scotland stays in

:04:26. > :04:30.the UK, Holyrood will get more powers. All three main parties are

:04:31. > :04:34.committed to extending devolution and the more devolution is

:04:35. > :04:39.extended, the more the West Lothian question could keep on coming round

:04:40. > :04:40.unless somebody find a solution to a question that has remained

:04:41. > :04:43.unanswered for 40 years. With me now

:04:44. > :04:46.in the studio is the Labour MP for Glasgow South West, Ian Davidson,

:04:47. > :04:49.and in our Edinburgh studio is the former Secretary of State for

:04:50. > :04:59.Scotland, Sir Malcolm Rifkind MP. The Scottish Conservative Party is

:05:00. > :05:04.offering substantial, extra devolved powers, yet we have got Boris

:05:05. > :05:07.Johnson saying there is no reason to give the Scottish Parliament more

:05:08. > :05:11.powers and John Redwood saying English people will not accept it.

:05:12. > :05:16.It seems the Tory party in Westminster have not read the

:05:17. > :05:20.script. Boris Johnson does not even have a seat in the House of Commons

:05:21. > :05:25.so you do not need to pay much attention to what he says on this

:05:26. > :05:30.matter. As far as the West Lothian question is concerned, there is an

:05:31. > :05:35.issue. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland all have their own

:05:36. > :05:40.parliaments. They decide police Scottish, Welsh and Irish matters

:05:41. > :05:44.locally. England cannot influence that. In Westminster you have 100

:05:45. > :05:49.members of Parliament who can influence the outcome. I do not

:05:50. > :05:53.agree with John Redwood's proposed solution. I do not think the answer

:05:54. > :06:00.is to stop having Scots and Welsh and Irish not voting on certain

:06:01. > :06:04.issues. You cannot have two classes of Parliament. You can have on

:06:05. > :06:09.English issues a requirement for a double majority. For a proposal to

:06:10. > :06:15.go forward it should require not just a majority of the House of

:06:16. > :06:18.Commons, but a majority of those representing English

:06:19. > :06:24.constituencies. That would be a fair way without any extra expense and

:06:25. > :06:27.bureaucracy of resolving this very real anomaly. If there are more

:06:28. > :06:32.devolved powers delivered to Scotland if there is a no vote,

:06:33. > :06:39.something will need to be done, the current anomalies will no longer

:06:40. > :06:44.exist? Something needs to be done, the question is what? John Redwood

:06:45. > :06:49.is guilty of the deadly sin of envy, quite understandably. He looks

:06:50. > :06:57.at Scotland and sees as with a devolved parliament, making our own

:06:58. > :07:01.laws, however UK strength is round about us. He says something must be

:07:02. > :07:05.done. Where he is missing the point is I get the impression from large

:07:06. > :07:11.numbers of people in England that they also are unhappy with rule from

:07:12. > :07:16.London, from Whitehall, from Westminster. What they want is more

:07:17. > :07:20.powers locally. The way to do with that is not by tinkering with

:07:21. > :07:25.Westminster, but to give genuine powers to the regions of England,

:07:26. > :07:28.the North East, the West, the Midlands, all desperately want to

:07:29. > :07:35.have more say over their own affairs. Ed Miliband has talked

:07:36. > :07:38.about this, devolving more powers to cities. You would still have

:07:39. > :07:44.legislation which covered the whole of England, big which was not

:07:45. > :07:48.relevant in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. English MPs would

:07:49. > :07:54.still not one Scottish MPs making the decisions. Do you agree with

:07:55. > :08:00.Malcolm Rifkind? I am glad to hear that my leader and me agree on this

:08:01. > :08:07.important issue, but I do not agree with Malcolm. That is a variation of

:08:08. > :08:11.John Redwood's proposal. The idea would essentially means Scottish,

:08:12. > :08:16.Irish, Welsh and Northern Ireland votes did not count if there was not

:08:17. > :08:22.a majority amongst English MPs. You may as well just be banished. You

:08:23. > :08:26.cannot have a parliament which has potentially five different classes

:08:27. > :08:32.of MPs. Scots allowed in thing -- in for some things, Wales and Northern

:08:33. > :08:36.Ireland the same. Some London MPs should be ordered out in

:08:37. > :08:42.circumstances where there are non-London issues being dealt with.

:08:43. > :08:46.It would be a mess. It could end up with a very difficult situation

:08:47. > :08:51.where the UK wide Government had a majority across the UK, but not when

:08:52. > :08:58.it came to English MPs. It would be a messy muddle. What you are saying

:08:59. > :09:02.is correct in one sense. There would be certain issues that a United

:09:03. > :09:06.Kingdom Government without a majority in England would not get

:09:07. > :09:12.its way. That is what happens when you have a minority Government. We

:09:13. > :09:17.had Government under Jim Callaghan and Harold Wilson that did not have

:09:18. > :09:21.an overall majority and as a consequence legislation did not go

:09:22. > :09:26.through. We are used to dealing with that. The House of Lords rejected a

:09:27. > :09:31.bill and it does not become a law until they change their mind. We

:09:32. > :09:37.cannot have uniformity. We have a Scottish Parliament with full,

:09:38. > :09:41.legislative powers. We have a Welsh assembly. We have a Northern Ireland

:09:42. > :09:45.parliament with compulsory power-sharing. There is not

:09:46. > :09:52.uniformity at the moment. Instead of having new governments, and it is

:09:53. > :09:58.not going to happen, you have got to deal with the issue of fairness. It

:09:59. > :10:02.is not fair when Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can decide their

:10:03. > :10:07.own issues by themselves, it is not fair on English education and health

:10:08. > :10:11.and matters of that kind the wishes of the majority in England can be

:10:12. > :10:15.thwarted by votes from Northern Ireland, Scotland or Wales. The

:10:16. > :10:20.Scottish public would be quite happy with a change to deal with that

:10:21. > :10:24.anomaly. As a resident of East Lothian that is the answer to the

:10:25. > :10:27.West Lothian question! Lothian that is the answer to the

:10:28. > :10:31.There is another answer, an independent Scotland means you would

:10:32. > :10:39.not have any of these constitutional anomalies. It would be clean. The

:10:40. > :10:43.difficulty about Malcolm's proposal is you potentially have two

:10:44. > :10:47.Government in one Parliament. An English Government dealing with a

:10:48. > :10:52.whole raft of affairs and a UK Government dealing with the money

:10:53. > :10:56.side of things. You cannot have two Masters in one house. If the English

:10:57. > :11:01.want a separate parliament, they have to have it somewhere else. Let

:11:02. > :11:07.them have it in Manchester. That would be a positive step. I think

:11:08. > :11:11.building on the concept of city states is far more sensible. Thank

:11:12. > :11:13.you very much for talking to us. Today both sides of the referendum

:11:14. > :11:16.campaign have been focusing on jobs. The Scottish Government has been

:11:17. > :11:18.setting out a ten-point plan it says will boost

:11:19. > :11:20.employment under independence. Meanwhile, the UK Government says

:11:21. > :11:23.the union is safeguarding hundreds of shipbuilding posts on the Clyde

:11:24. > :11:25.by confirming orders Our political editor Brian Taylor

:11:26. > :11:41.reports. What is driving this campaign? What

:11:42. > :11:49.illuminate the debate? Scotland's pewter, the economy, jobs? Nothing

:11:50. > :11:56.says industry and jobs more than a shipyard. This is BAE Systems at

:11:57. > :12:00.Govan in Glasgow and behind me there is the second aircraft carrier for

:12:01. > :12:06.the Royal Navy. That is a section of the carrier over there. At the core

:12:07. > :12:10.of this referendum are many issues, but right at the centre is a debate

:12:11. > :12:16.about the economy, employment and the future of Scotland. Good use for

:12:17. > :12:21.these workers. Confirmation from the UK Government of a contract to build

:12:22. > :12:27.three new offshore patrol vessels. That keeps the Clyde Busey, bridging

:12:28. > :12:33.the gap between the carrier provision and the British warships.

:12:34. > :12:38.That is a union dividend and would not be available and independents

:12:39. > :12:44.say some. Scotland has a positive future for shipbuilding for the UK

:12:45. > :12:50.Armed Forces provided its stairs -- stays together. We think we are

:12:51. > :12:57.better together. If Scotland goes independent? The prospects for

:12:58. > :13:00.shipbuilding on the Clyde are bleak. SNP ministers say the Clyde would

:13:01. > :13:06.compete successfully for other orders. The Scottish Government is

:13:07. > :13:10.committed to building military vessels at the Clyde yard and we are

:13:11. > :13:15.looking to work collaboratively with the rest of the UK. That is where

:13:16. > :13:18.the quality and the investment has been made and the staff have the

:13:19. > :13:26.capability and the skills to deploy those contracts. With jobs and

:13:27. > :13:31.industry by Tilly important, what about the wider future for

:13:32. > :13:37.Scotland's economy? John Swinney today set out a ten point economic

:13:38. > :13:40.plan, the focus on manufacturing and capital investment, plus a cut in

:13:41. > :13:46.corporation tax to attract business to Scotland. We have to use the

:13:47. > :13:51.responsibilities we already have in Scotland, but acquiring new powers

:13:52. > :13:55.to independents to create employment whether it is through innovation and

:13:56. > :14:00.investment in new industry, whether it is about encouraging and

:14:01. > :14:03.motivating greater private sector investment in research and

:14:04. > :14:07.development. We could strengthen the foundations of the Scottish

:14:08. > :14:13.economy, but we need new powers to do that. I have never heard such a

:14:14. > :14:17.steaming pile of nonsense in all this campaign. The idea when you

:14:18. > :14:20.listen to the businesses of Scotland's speaking about the impact

:14:21. > :14:27.of independence that there would be a jobs bonanza after voting yes is

:14:28. > :14:31.complete nonsense. A choice in Govan. Across Scotland that choice

:14:32. > :14:39.is largely driven by the economy, by jobs. I joined by our political

:14:40. > :14:45.correspondent, Tim Reid. Why are they focusing so much on jobs? There

:14:46. > :14:49.is total deadlock on the currency question. It is jobs, the economy

:14:50. > :14:55.and wages on which most people will make up their minds on September the

:14:56. > :15:01.18th. No surprise the yes campaign has been promising jobs today moving

:15:02. > :15:06.on to traditional Labour territory, job creation, apprenticeships and

:15:07. > :15:10.more manufacturing and shipbuilding jobs as well because it is the

:15:11. > :15:16.people working in traditional, Labour areas, traditional, Labour,

:15:17. > :15:21.working-class areas that may swing this vote at the end of the day. And

:15:22. > :15:26.both sides of the campaign are desperately trying to persuade them

:15:27. > :15:31.to vote for them. The no campaign today chose to go on an issue we

:15:32. > :15:35.know about, defence jobs, hinting very strongly that those jobs may be

:15:36. > :15:41.lost if there is a yes vote to independents. The question is

:15:42. > :15:48.whether promising jobs or hinting at jobs might go is going to persuade

:15:49. > :15:54.people how to vote. We are expecting new figures from the Treasury soon.

:15:55. > :15:59.Also focusing on jobs. You might remember figures recently were

:16:00. > :16:06.issued from Strathclyde University who did a study trying to ascertain

:16:07. > :16:13.how many Scottish jobs might be affected by cross-border trade. A

:16:14. > :16:19.figure of around 247,000 jobs, the Treasury has used 2013 figures and

:16:20. > :16:25.they have a figure of around 170,000 jobs. There is a warning about

:16:26. > :16:29.independence affecting jobs, something the Yes campaign was not

:16:30. > :16:34.agree with. The Treasury has also looked at men and women and they say

:16:35. > :16:41.around 100,000 women are affected in those jobs and that ties in with a

:16:42. > :16:47.report last night in that attitude, that most women had not made up

:16:48. > :16:48.their minds, and that is what the No campaign is looking at.

:16:49. > :16:54.Thank you very much. Later this week, the athletes from

:16:55. > :16:56.Team Scotland will parade through the streets of Glasgow as a grand

:16:57. > :16:59.finale to their Games? success. Scottish competitors racked up

:17:00. > :17:02.a record number of medals at the And how does

:17:03. > :17:15.their performance impact For Scotland, it was an incredible

:17:16. > :17:23.Commonwealth Games, a total of 53 medals, smashing the previous test

:17:24. > :17:33.of 33. -- best. What did Scotland have to put in financially to

:17:34. > :17:36.achieve this success? Sisters Kimberly and the wheeze got Team

:17:37. > :17:42.Scotland off to a flying start, winning Gold medals in judo --

:17:43. > :17:46.Louise. This success has changed our lives, sometimes for the better and

:17:47. > :17:51.sometimes not so much. Getting your face, -- getting your face

:17:52. > :17:56.everywhere, that a shock, seeing your face and your friends going,

:17:57. > :18:02.you are in the radio and on the TV, in the paper. I was like, that is

:18:03. > :18:07.not me. Some people have taken the medal from my neck, we are easy

:18:08. > :18:11.going and simple people so when people ask for a photo or an

:18:12. > :18:17.autograph, you would get it unless we are doing something. The price of

:18:18. > :18:20.fame, but what does the future hold? Government money goes to sport

:18:21. > :18:25.Scotland who decide how much each sport gets. We have had a lot of

:18:26. > :18:29.support from the Scottish Government in recent years and we have lottery

:18:30. > :18:34.funding. Putting that together gives is around ?70 million each year to

:18:35. > :18:40.build that system. It is not just about the athletes, it is also about

:18:41. > :18:45.schools, we have invested ?50 million in a schools programme and

:18:46. > :18:50.?10 million in the next four years for clubs. So we feel we have got

:18:51. > :18:57.real ambition to build something sustainable. So which sports did

:18:58. > :19:03.best? In relation to the money it got from sport Scotland. We take the

:19:04. > :19:08.money each sport get and we divide it by medal points. A Gold medal

:19:09. > :19:15.equates to three medal points, silver two and a bronze medal one

:19:16. > :19:21.point. In one bowls, we got... That equates to 11 points. In terms of

:19:22. > :19:33.funding, that gets over ?1.4 million which works out at... Doing it this

:19:34. > :19:42.way, badminton is worst and the best value for money came from judo at

:19:43. > :19:53.just 95,000 pounds. -- ?5,000. Those of the sports we won medals in. Over

:19:54. > :19:57.12 mean pounds -- ?12 million went to sport which did not produce

:19:58. > :20:02.Commonwealth medals. Funding is common -- funding is complex and not

:20:03. > :20:10.just about medals and the sisters are concerned funding for judo could

:20:11. > :20:17.be cut. That is a worry but we hope pink -- hoping the Institute will

:20:18. > :20:21.look at it. We have four or five people in the top ten of the world

:20:22. > :20:29.and another four or five within the 20 and 30 mark. South African

:20:30. > :20:34.countries are competing for the sport so you look at cycles ahead

:20:35. > :20:39.and we will look ahead and if one of those nations has judo, we will have

:20:40. > :20:46.to be smart and make sure we have an eight-year plan.

:20:47. > :20:54.Funding for sport is never going to be an exact science, it does not

:20:55. > :20:58.guarantee you an outcome. But after Glasgow 2014, sport Scotland have

:20:59. > :21:03.plenty of evidence the tricky financial equations are adding up.

:21:04. > :21:06.With me now for a look at today's top stories are April

:21:07. > :21:09.Cumming, Vice-Chair of Scottish Fabians, and the editor of the Bella

:21:10. > :21:16.Let's pick up on this West Lothian question, some of us feel we grew up

:21:17. > :21:21.with it but somebody of your generation, it is that something

:21:22. > :21:28.that keeps you awake at night? I am actually 30! I think it is wonderful

:21:29. > :21:32.what is happening in Scotland's is a constitutional conversation

:21:33. > :21:39.filtering down into other areas in the UK, that can only be positive.

:21:40. > :21:44.As far as what John Redwood was suggesting in terms of English MPs

:21:45. > :21:51.voting on specifically English issues, if we are going to vote No,

:21:52. > :21:58.that should not mean we do not have a say in what happens in

:21:59. > :22:01.Westminster. Because there are plenty of issues that could be

:22:02. > :22:06.considered English issues that would have an impact in Scotland. For

:22:07. > :22:12.example, setting corporation tax rates. I do not think it is a

:22:13. > :22:18.positive step to take in terms of constitutional reform to have just

:22:19. > :22:22.English votes. If Scotland was to get extra devolved power, would it

:22:23. > :22:28.care if England set up an English only Parliament and its Scottish MPs

:22:29. > :22:33.would -- were not included in debates? I do not see that

:22:34. > :22:41.happening. It is a contradiction because we are told we are a happy

:22:42. > :22:45.union and now it turns out we are to be excluded from parts of that

:22:46. > :22:51.debate. I find this extraordinary. I do not see any momentum in England

:22:52. > :22:56.calling for this and if there was, I would welcome it and you would

:22:57. > :22:59.support the right of a country to self-determination and democracy,

:23:00. > :23:02.but I think this is making up the constitution out of desperation a

:23:03. > :23:08.couple of weeks before the referendum. Alex Salmond let slip an

:23:09. > :23:22.interesting nugget at the Edinburgh book Festival yesterday. He said...

:23:23. > :23:30.He said, once the votes are counted, you get a different situation. Is

:23:31. > :23:34.this a slip to admit people do and say things they do not mean in a

:23:35. > :23:38.campaign or is it refreshing honesty from the First Minister? I think he

:23:39. > :23:44.was talking about the currency debate and I think he is talking

:23:45. > :23:48.about that. But if you want to take it in a different direction, it is a

:23:49. > :23:52.candid moment from somebody who is supposed to be sure-footed so can

:23:53. > :23:56.you imagine a space where his equivalent in the No side said

:23:57. > :24:01.something like that? I cannot conceive of that. I do not agree

:24:02. > :24:06.with that. I think it is quite a cynical approach for Alex Salmond to

:24:07. > :24:15.take. What is happening with regards to the currency is a series of

:24:16. > :24:21.untruths, rather than stretching the truth. With regards to a future

:24:22. > :24:29.currency union and the school policy in Scotland. I think Alex Salmond

:24:30. > :24:33.has framed the argument in an untruthful way and is polling the

:24:34. > :24:39.wall over the eyes of the people of Scotland. You would say that, coming

:24:40. > :24:45.from a Better Together perspective. You end up with a position of

:24:46. > :24:49.opposing views from the Yes campaign and Better Together, voters cannot

:24:50. > :24:53.find the truth there is such a thing and they end up in a situation where

:24:54. > :24:57.they think the First Minister is right and everybody is stretching

:24:58. > :25:02.the truth a bit. I do not believe that to be the case. From my

:25:03. > :25:08.personal perspective, Better Together's arguments have come from

:25:09. > :25:14.academic and well-informed reports, from the opinions of independent

:25:15. > :25:21.academics like Armstrong. Like Professor K. And well-informed

:25:22. > :25:26.background -- and a well-informed backgrounds, and the currency issue

:25:27. > :25:30.is underpinning what flexibility the Scottish nationalists will have with

:25:31. > :25:36.their future the scope policy. They can belittle it but it gets to the

:25:37. > :25:43.core of what independence is about. -- fiscal policy. Will the currency

:25:44. > :25:49.issue decide it? No, the polls say not a what people care about this

:25:50. > :25:55.issue -- not a lot. The concept of truth is interesting and independent

:25:56. > :25:59.facts. What will have to happen is for people to make up their own

:26:00. > :26:03.minds and think for themselves. If they do that, that is a death knell

:26:04. > :26:08.for Better Together because their campaign is based on deference and

:26:09. > :26:12.people start thinking for themselves, we will get a Yes vote.

:26:13. > :26:18.Where do people go to get these facts? From both campaigns can you

:26:19. > :26:23.have opposing points and what you hear often from voters as they want

:26:24. > :26:27.hard and identifiable facts to make their own minds, but they do not

:26:28. > :26:34.well -- but they do not know where to go. We have a mountain of facts.

:26:35. > :26:38.What we have got is people having to engage with ideas and to think for

:26:39. > :26:42.themselves and that is something people are not used to. The

:26:43. > :26:46.information is there but people do not trust that information because

:26:47. > :26:53.they feel it is from a biased perspective. I have started pasting

:26:54. > :26:57.official reports to my Facebook page so people can see the official

:26:58. > :27:04.transcripts coming from and doctored sources. People are generally not

:27:05. > :27:07.aware of where to go. We have two campaigns giving their version of

:27:08. > :27:14.the story and that does affect the trust. The media is one place they

:27:15. > :27:19.might go but only one newspaper is supporting the Yes campaign, is that

:27:20. > :27:24.making a difference to the campaign? Yes, what we see is the flourishing

:27:25. > :27:28.of alternative media. That is largely because you are getting a

:27:29. > :27:32.top-down campaign from Better Together and you have a grassroots

:27:33. > :27:36.movement of hundreds of thousands of people on the ground. It is like if

:27:37. > :27:41.you have a trusted friend who tells you about a restaurant. We are

:27:42. > :27:46.having a conversation in people's doorsteps and the Better Together

:27:47. > :27:48.campaign is giving us Kirstie Allsopp! Thank you for talking to

:27:49. > :27:55.is. -- to us. I'll be back

:27:56. > :28:49.at the same time tomorrow night. The images of desperate families,

:28:50. > :28:54.thousands of them still stranded on Mount Sinjar in northern Iraq are

:28:55. > :28:55.beamed around the world. After ten days only these fortunate