:00:00. > :00:00.All of Scotland will emerge the winner from the referendum.
:00:00. > :00:09.Tonight we talk to him about what happens next
:00:10. > :00:31.The Scottish Parliament got back to business today.
:00:32. > :00:35.And the first order of business is for all the parties to try and agree
:00:36. > :00:38.what extra powers they want to see delivered to that parliament.
:00:39. > :00:41.The man who has to try and get them to agree was watching
:00:42. > :00:46.Tonight we talk to the departing First Minister about the role he
:00:47. > :00:53.And why he thinks he will live to see a fully independent Scotland.
:00:54. > :00:59.We are now basically arguing about timescale and method
:01:00. > :01:03.At his party conference in Manchester,
:01:04. > :01:06.Labour leader Ed Miliband says David Cameron is learning the wrong
:01:07. > :01:12.While in New York, he's overheard gossiping about the
:01:13. > :01:27.The Scottish public might have voted no thanks to independence,
:01:28. > :01:30.but the appetite for political change has never been clearer.
:01:31. > :01:32.Today, the Scottish Parliament came together for the first time since
:01:33. > :01:34.the referendum result and Alex Salmond's resignation announcement
:01:35. > :01:39.With the clock ticking on a timetable for more devolution,
:01:40. > :01:53.His first Parliamentary session as the outgoing First Minister, rather
:01:54. > :02:00.than the future head of an independent Scotland. After country
:02:01. > :02:04.divided, the politicians came together again. To mark the
:02:05. > :02:09.significance of the day the presiding officer, and usually, took
:02:10. > :02:16.time for reflection. It cannot and must not be business as usual.
:02:17. > :02:20.People have come off their settees, out of their homes, into the streets
:02:21. > :02:24.and public meetings and then into polling stations. They are not going
:02:25. > :02:29.back. APPLAUSE
:02:30. > :02:34.And so over to the politicians. They found common ground on the fact
:02:35. > :02:40.that 16 and 17-year-olds should vote in future. But soon, there was a
:02:41. > :02:45.hint of business as usual as old party political divisions began to
:02:46. > :02:51.show. For this Parliament, we, all of us, have a responsibility to hold
:02:52. > :02:54.Westminster's feet to the fire to ensure the pledges are metaphors and
:02:55. > :02:59.that's not just the job the Scottish Government, but one for all parties
:03:00. > :03:04.in the Parliament. Indeed, we might well argue there's a special
:03:05. > :03:09.obligation on the Unionist party, it's essential they deliver. We
:03:10. > :03:15.don't need anybody to hold our feet to the fire in making this
:03:16. > :03:19.Parliament work. We don't need anybody to hold our feet to the fire
:03:20. > :03:24.to get powers for this Parliament that will make it stronger still
:03:25. > :03:31.inside the United Kingdom. I give my commitment that we will bring powers
:03:32. > :03:35.over taxation. This Government has spent seven years telling the
:03:36. > :03:38.country all of the things it can't do and now it has just 18 months to
:03:39. > :03:46.tell us the things that cannot. And one of those things that it can do
:03:47. > :03:50.is help deliver more powers for the Scottish parliament. This referendum
:03:51. > :03:54.is never about no change for the change is coming. It's about whether
:03:55. > :04:00.that change should happen within or without the UK. Referendum over and
:04:01. > :04:04.of course, the parties aren't going to miraculously come together. But
:04:05. > :04:07.this man has been tasked with bringing them together. Getting
:04:08. > :04:13.agreement on the new powers that were promised to Scotland. There is
:04:14. > :04:18.broad consensus in a way that there needs to be more power given to
:04:19. > :04:23.Holyrood. My job is to get consensus around some of the detail of that.
:04:24. > :04:29.My message to the political parties today is that Scotland is expecting
:04:30. > :04:34.us to arrive at consensus, so I would ask them to enter into that in
:04:35. > :04:39.the of goodwill. Not only that, but it's got to provide recommendations
:04:40. > :04:43.by the end of November. The Smith commission, very clearly, very
:04:44. > :04:48.clearly is not going to have a time to undertake the depth of public
:04:49. > :04:55.engagement but I believe Scotland deserves to have and those newly
:04:56. > :05:00.politicised people around Scotland deserve to be able to take part in.
:05:01. > :05:04.We have to find people to avoid it being another party political stitch
:05:05. > :05:08.up. We propose the parliament raises the majority of the money that it
:05:09. > :05:12.spends for the those missing powers would give us control of the purse
:05:13. > :05:17.strings and therefore control of our destiny on the domestic agenda. If
:05:18. > :05:21.we want to do is have been different from Westminster, we could for them
:05:22. > :05:26.if we want tax cuts for those on low and middle incomes, we can choose to
:05:27. > :05:31.do that. Can they choose to agree on more powers? Every party involved
:05:32. > :05:36.wants change. Every party wants a different version of change. Adding
:05:37. > :05:42.all the other contributions, no wonder he is looking serious.
:05:43. > :05:44.Meanwhile in New York, David Cameron, appears to have
:05:45. > :05:46.broken royal protocol by talking about the Queen's reaction
:05:47. > :05:49.when he rang to tell her the result of the Scottish referendum.
:05:50. > :05:51.He was overheard telling the city's former mayor, Michael Bloomberg,
:05:52. > :05:55.that Her Majesty purred down the line when he called her to tell her
:05:56. > :06:35.Buckingham Palace said it does not comment
:06:36. > :06:38.on private conversations between the Prime Minister and the Monarch.
:06:39. > :06:41.Earlier this evening, I caught up with the First Minister in Holyrood.
:06:42. > :06:43.As well as asking him for reaction to that Cameron faux
:06:44. > :06:47.pas, I began by asking him how he was feeling after what must
:06:48. > :07:02.I'm feeling very positive. There has been some emotional moments. I
:07:03. > :07:08.turned up at my constituency meeting, my regularly meeting on
:07:09. > :07:11.Sunday, and there were 500 people there, so it caused a bit of a
:07:12. > :07:19.problem. Could not get them all in the whole place so I had to do a
:07:20. > :07:23.speech outside and that was emotional. People turning out in
:07:24. > :07:27.such numbers, get a bit emotional but, look, I'm positive about the
:07:28. > :07:36.future of Scotland. Didn't win the referendum, but we achieved a great
:07:37. > :07:42.deal. I think momentum, it's clear we may have the essential irony in
:07:43. > :07:47.politics that the No side have been on the defensive and the Yes side
:07:48. > :07:51.are riding a wave of public enthusiasm, a substantial irony but
:07:52. > :07:58.it seems to be what's happening. Coming back to Holyrood for the
:07:59. > :08:04.first time since the referendum, realising how few sessions you got
:08:05. > :08:09.left. It must be sad? I love the First Minister's Questions. I love
:08:10. > :08:13.being First Minister, but there's a range of things in job, for example,
:08:14. > :08:18.it would be helpful in saving Ferguson shipyard, it's
:08:19. > :08:21.fundamentally more satisfying than any First Minister's Questions I had
:08:22. > :08:26.taken part in, so I think what I will miss about the job is there are
:08:27. > :08:30.issues where you can have a direct influence. There are many you can't,
:08:31. > :08:33.incidentally, and that has to be said as well but there are some
:08:34. > :08:37.things which come up and you can say, I've made a difference here for
:08:38. > :08:41.the bat is really satisfying. I had a phone call from two shop stewards
:08:42. > :08:52.yesterday at Fergusons, who said the guys were sending me something for
:08:53. > :08:58.them I don't know what it is but I got an impression it might be
:08:59. > :09:03.illiquid. John Wilson resigned today which means you gone for a majority
:09:04. > :09:07.of mine after the election down to one, tricky situation to bequeath
:09:08. > :09:10.your successor. I think the successor, whoever they are, will be
:09:11. > :09:17.well capable of dealing with that situation. Obviously, you don't like
:09:18. > :09:20.for anyone to lose support but we have not been in an uncomfortable
:09:21. > :09:24.position in terms of the votes in the Scottish Parliament. I would
:09:25. > :09:28.have thought much more significant is, we have more than doubled the
:09:29. > :09:33.party membership since last week. I think it changes every hour but last
:09:34. > :09:37.time I checked, 53,000 or something like that from 26,000, a most
:09:38. > :09:40.extraordinary thing for them I thought we would gain members
:09:41. > :09:44.because of the level of activity, but if you are told me we would have
:09:45. > :09:50.more new members today than we had members last week, I would have been
:09:51. > :09:52.very surprised. I notice other people on the yes side are
:09:53. > :10:01.experiencing a similar surge. People, having tasted the prospect
:10:02. > :10:04.of being able to determine a Scotland's future, people don't want
:10:05. > :10:08.to let that go and by far the most signal that the aftermath of this
:10:09. > :10:13.referendum campaign, is the more people who express the wish by
:10:14. > :10:19.joining the SNP the better, but if they do it by continuing to campaign
:10:20. > :10:23.and articulate the hopes the referendum campaign did, it's good
:10:24. > :10:27.as well. People are not going to go quietly into the shadows. People are
:10:28. > :10:32.now politically active and they want to see this country change totally.
:10:33. > :10:37.What a roller will he SNP have in changing this country? Will you be
:10:38. > :10:43.full participants to get new powers for the Scottish Parliament? Yes, I
:10:44. > :10:51.have already agreed that. We spoke to Lord Smith. Will you personally
:10:52. > :10:59.be involved in that? I am meeting him on Friday. Robert Smith is an
:11:00. > :11:04.excellent choice because of his credibility from the Commonwealth
:11:05. > :11:08.Games. He did a brilliant job over the last few years so he's got a lot
:11:09. > :11:12.of credibility and that's a good choice but, of course, what we have
:11:13. > :11:16.to understand, not just the Westminster parties, although they
:11:17. > :11:19.need to understand more than anyone but the Holyrood politicians as
:11:20. > :11:23.well, we are not the only people in this process. There are tens of
:11:24. > :11:31.thousands of politically engaged people with a stake in this future.
:11:32. > :11:36.They can be involved in the process? They have to be. The Unionist
:11:37. > :11:38.parties have got themselves into a position in that they have
:11:39. > :11:43.indistinct proposals which have to be consulted upon. But we will have
:11:44. > :11:50.to have a wide canvas and they have got a timescale for delivery which
:11:51. > :11:54.cannot be rescinded upon. Into that mix you're going to put the SNP and
:11:55. > :11:57.some of the enthusiastic supporters have garnered over the last few
:11:58. > :12:02.months asking for even more powers than you know Westminster will agree
:12:03. > :12:09.to. I don't think even more. I'd been anyone will look at what is
:12:10. > :12:15.being offered and ascribe it as a powerhouse package. Even a devilish
:12:16. > :12:21.risk groups are saying it's way short -- and Ben Thompson Middle
:12:22. > :12:28.point he found himself in a position as a revolutionist the Yes Vote was
:12:29. > :12:34.close at what he wanted, that what was being put forward by the
:12:35. > :12:38.Unionist campaign. Their practice has been weak as well as indistinct.
:12:39. > :12:44.However, they have not been sold as that. I mean, even more so, what
:12:45. > :12:49.Gordon Brown was saying, he was saying this was as near federalism
:12:50. > :12:54.as you can have. He said it was home rule prospectus, and I think people
:12:55. > :12:57.therefore very entitled to have something really powerful as part of
:12:58. > :13:01.their contribution to the process. Hingis parties can't have both ways,
:13:02. > :13:06.complaining we are not participating and then start complaining if they
:13:07. > :13:11.do when we are putting forward which will actually fulfil the tests of
:13:12. > :13:15.the parliament people want. People want a powerhouse parliament which
:13:16. > :13:22.can make a real difference to jobs and social justice and enhance
:13:23. > :13:27.Scotland's status. Looking back at the campaign, did you believe you
:13:28. > :13:33.are going to win? Yes. What went wrong? You can look at it two ways,
:13:34. > :13:38.either you did not get the majority or you could say that a couple of
:13:39. > :13:43.years ago David Cameron was sitting comfortably with the thought that
:13:44. > :13:48.the no side would win 2-to-1. Or even better as some advisers
:13:49. > :13:52.thought. We came a long way, we just did not get past the summit. In
:13:53. > :13:59.terms of the campaign dynamic, it will be more useful farce if the
:14:00. > :14:05.opinion polls showed as leader -- in the lead earlier. It puts Downing
:14:06. > :14:10.Street into over drive. First, into a fear mongering campaign, most of
:14:11. > :14:13.us had heard it before, quite disgraceful fear mongering campaign,
:14:14. > :14:21.but I do not think that is what helped. What helped them was the
:14:22. > :14:23.presentation of the vow. This extraordinary, last-minute offer
:14:24. > :14:28.that was presented as something substantial. I think that gave a
:14:29. > :14:36.number of people a reason for voting no. Was that one thing you did not
:14:37. > :14:42.see coming? You knew they would throw the kitchen sink at you in
:14:43. > :14:46.terms of economics, but you were not expecting the vow? It was difficult
:14:47. > :14:50.to see that there would be a rehashing of something that was
:14:51. > :14:55.discounted in the spring and presented as something new and
:14:56. > :15:00.different. That was done. I'm not complaining about it, I will never
:15:01. > :15:03.complain about campaigns. My view on campaigns, I have said in the
:15:04. > :15:10.parliament today, there are two things that I think require a good
:15:11. > :15:15.look, one, the leak of the Royal Bank decision 45 minutes before, I
:15:16. > :15:19.am not a lawyer, but that seems to be contrary to the law, and all the
:15:20. > :15:26.information I have one that will be made available to the foreign keys.
:15:27. > :15:30.-- authorities. I don't think it will result in a clean bill of
:15:31. > :15:36.health for the people responsible. And the aftermath. The situation
:15:37. > :15:43.where a gang of thugs had a period ranged attack or peaceful --
:15:44. > :15:49.prearranged attack on a peaceful demonstration. You don't think there
:15:50. > :15:56.was a no vote because Scotland wasn't ready for independence? I
:15:57. > :16:01.think it showed a substantial appetite for independence, and even
:16:02. > :16:05.greater appetite for real powers, meaningful powers. I think the
:16:06. > :16:12.pendulum has swung, if did not swing as far as I wanted, but we carried
:16:13. > :16:17.the torch along way and maybe it is time to pass it on to a new
:16:18. > :16:22.generation will carry it further. Will use independent Scotland in
:16:23. > :16:27.your lifetime? Yes, I think we are beyond the tipping point. We are now
:16:28. > :16:31.arguing about is timescale and method as opposed to destination.
:16:32. > :16:38.Where the full array of the Westminster establishment and all
:16:39. > :16:41.their client groups and a variety of institutions went against the
:16:42. > :16:49.national movement, I think we should call it that now, and we still get
:16:50. > :16:52.45% of the vote and 1.6 million Scots and a large chunk of other
:16:53. > :16:57.people who said, well, we think we can get more change, I think we
:16:58. > :17:08.passed the tipping point. In the next 50 years? In the next ten?
:17:09. > :17:14.I'm in the incredible position to say with some that is busy -- with
:17:15. > :17:19.some legitimacy, that is a question you can address to my successor.
:17:20. > :17:24.David Cameron has been heard saying the definition of relief is when you
:17:25. > :17:28.phone the Queen and Teller, your kingdom is still united. -- tell
:17:29. > :17:38.her. That would be a different phone call if it was you on the end of the
:17:39. > :17:43.phone. Can I just say that David Cameron, he has been Prime Minister
:17:44. > :17:47.for four years, and he has not learned some basic civility of not
:17:48. > :17:55.gossiping about what Her Majesty thinks or does not think. That is
:17:56. > :18:02.pathetic. He should hang his head in shame. Her Majesty the Queen has a
:18:03. > :18:10.great deal more experience than David Cameron. Secondly, in Dover
:18:11. > :18:15.heard conversation, most Scots will be quite interested in that he said
:18:16. > :18:21.he was having stomach ulcers as he was frightened of the polls. I think
:18:22. > :18:26.that might be encouraging to a lot of Scots to think of discomfiting
:18:27. > :18:31.the Prime Minister in that fashion. Maybe we should give him is more
:18:32. > :18:40.discomfort. What is next for Alex Salmond? How will you continue
:18:41. > :18:53.giving the Tories discomfort? It was noted that a number of people
:18:54. > :18:59.had spoken to me in the past tense, I am not going out of politics. I am
:19:00. > :19:02.available to be a member of the Scottish Parliament for
:19:03. > :19:05.Aberdeenshire East, as long as my constituents would need to be. You
:19:06. > :19:11.may stand in the 2016 election Graham Buck Oh, yes. I said that.
:19:12. > :19:22.I have never been opinion that only, I love being a constituency
:19:23. > :19:28.MP. I have always done that. I know some figures who don't, I won't say
:19:29. > :19:33.they are bad job, but to them that was a chore. It has never been like
:19:34. > :19:36.that for me. I have always found it fascinating. I get a real
:19:37. > :19:44.satisfaction from those sorts of issues. I have no difficulty, I
:19:45. > :19:48.think all politics is local, so I am available to my constituents if they
:19:49. > :19:53.so wish and it is a matter for them. You don't have to be First
:19:54. > :19:58.Minister, love the way do being First Minister, but you don't have
:19:59. > :20:06.to be to make a difference in politics. I will be available to my
:20:07. > :20:10.successor, when I wanted and needed, not otherwise, of course, because
:20:11. > :20:14.you have to be careful. I have a feeling whether this accessories,
:20:15. > :20:19.they want be the sort of person that will be at risk of being
:20:20. > :20:22.overshadowed. Track whoever my successor is. -- whoever my
:20:23. > :20:25.successor is. Scottish politics has also been
:20:26. > :20:28.centre stage in Manchester at Where Ed Miliband accused the
:20:29. > :20:31.Prime Minister of learning the wrong lessons from the result
:20:32. > :20:34.of the Scottish referendum. In his speech to
:20:35. > :20:35.the party's conference, the Labour leader said David
:20:36. > :20:38.Cameron, by offering English votes for English laws in the Commons,
:20:39. > :20:41.was seeking to divide, not unite the UK, as our Westminster Correspondent
:20:42. > :20:52.Tim Reid reports from Manchester. It is no surprise that as it has
:20:53. > :20:56.done all this week, Scots and featured very heavily in Ed
:20:57. > :21:07.Miliband's speech. -- Scotland. He can -- he kept returning to the
:21:08. > :21:12.theme. His theme also today was one of togetherness, not just the
:21:13. > :21:15.nations of the UK, but of society, saying many voters were
:21:16. > :21:21.disillusioned with politics and that is why so many people voted for
:21:22. > :21:24.independence in that referendum. On that, he suggested that Mr
:21:25. > :21:29.Cameron's reaction, by suggesting English votes for Bush laws, was one
:21:30. > :21:32.which was dividing the union and which was the wrong routes to go
:21:33. > :21:37.down. If David Cameron cares so much about
:21:38. > :21:47.the union, why is he seeking to divide us? He is learning the wrong
:21:48. > :21:53.lessons. He is learning the wrong lessons from Scotland. What he
:21:54. > :21:57.doesn't understand is that the lessons are of course about the
:21:58. > :22:03.constitution, but they are not about playing political tactics about
:22:04. > :22:06.England. He also said there should be a constitutional convention to
:22:07. > :22:10.describe the way forward for devolution across the whole of the
:22:11. > :22:18.UK, not a stitch up from Mr Cameron. No sign they will sign up to that
:22:19. > :22:23.moment the back idea of them. Other things you touched on was the
:22:24. > :22:31.mansion tax. That would pay for a 2.5 billion pound fund for more
:22:32. > :22:36.doctors and nurses for the NHS. But health is devolved, so the money
:22:37. > :22:41.from that, we reckon, would go to the Scottish Government to decide
:22:42. > :22:46.however it wants to spend it. It was a speech lofty on ambition, lots of
:22:47. > :22:51.rhetoric, I think, some people may say will it be enough to persuade
:22:52. > :22:52.voters in Scotland who deserted the Labour Party in the referendum? They
:22:53. > :22:54.will decide in eight months time. In the studio this evening is
:22:55. > :22:56.the co-convener of the Scottish Green Party,
:22:57. > :22:58.Patrick Harvie. Former Scottish Conservative leader and now peer
:22:59. > :23:01.Annabel Goldie. And in our Edinburgh studio Scottish Labour's Welfare
:23:02. > :23:11.Spokesperson, Jackie Baillie. Smith, who is chairing the
:23:12. > :23:17.commission on devolved powers, says it will take courage to find the
:23:18. > :23:24.agreement. As I am in the chair, we could call this arrow version of the
:23:25. > :23:28.Smith Commission. What can Labour compromise on to try and find
:23:29. > :23:31.agreement? What we have already seen is that three of the political
:23:32. > :23:37.parties has set out their proposals in some detail. There is a lot of
:23:38. > :23:42.common ground. The job is to get them to be the same rather than
:23:43. > :23:45.similar. What can you compromise on? There is a good starting point of
:23:46. > :23:51.Ayr in that we are talking about more devolution of taxation, in
:23:52. > :23:55.particular local income tax. We're talking in addition about the
:23:56. > :23:58.devolution of some aspects of welfare. Housing benefit, attendance
:23:59. > :24:03.allowance, all of that. I think there are broad areas where I think
:24:04. > :24:07.people will achieve a compromise. There is no doubt it is a tough
:24:08. > :24:14.timetable, but I think Laura Smith is the man to do the job. -- Lord
:24:15. > :24:17.Smith. In the 18th of September, I was struck by the fact that the
:24:18. > :24:21.people of Scotland exercise their will, their voices and views
:24:22. > :24:27.mattered, their votes mattered and they overwhelmingly voted no. By a
:24:28. > :24:31.significant margin. I think the First Minister seeks to avoid that,
:24:32. > :24:35.but it is the case that it is the settled will of the Scottish people
:24:36. > :24:39.that they want to remain in the United Kingdom, but they want more
:24:40. > :24:45.powers. That is what we have to try and find agreement on. Annabel, the
:24:46. > :24:49.Tory party's proposals go further than Labour, especially when it
:24:50. > :24:55.comes to income tax powers. Where can compromise be found? It is
:24:56. > :24:59.normally found as a consequence of intelligent and informed discussion
:25:00. > :25:03.and I do not think it would be appropriate to pre-empt the process.
:25:04. > :25:07.Lord Smith will engage with different parties, I'm sure he will
:25:08. > :25:16.do that in an inclusive fashion which will provide a forum. For me,
:25:17. > :25:20.the best compromises often comes from people being able to discuss
:25:21. > :25:28.thoroughly what they see as the merits or advantages, disadvantages
:25:29. > :25:31.of proposals. I think it would be inappropriate to try and anticipate
:25:32. > :25:34.what the discussions will be. Patrick Harvie, you said today you
:25:35. > :25:39.were worried about the tight timetable promised by the prounion
:25:40. > :25:43.parties and it does not allow time for voters to get involved. But
:25:44. > :25:48.presumably you want people to stick to the timetable? That is what they
:25:49. > :25:53.promised and they will have to stick to it if they want any credibility,
:25:54. > :25:58.but there is an appetite out there for engagement in politics like
:25:59. > :26:05.nothing we have seen for many years. There is an appetite for radical
:26:06. > :26:09.change. That is amongst both sides. But Westminster political landscape
:26:10. > :26:13.is one that is traditionally very resistant to radical change. I think
:26:14. > :26:19.it would be a tricky position, my concern is that we do not see this
:26:20. > :26:24.as an alternative funding formula for devolution, one that satisfies
:26:25. > :26:31.the interests of the three UK parties, but effectively places any
:26:32. > :26:33.future Scottish Government in situation of having to manage
:26:34. > :26:43.Westminster's cuts on its behalf. That would be damaging -- that would
:26:44. > :26:47.be damaging. Jackie, it will be preferable for the prounion parties
:26:48. > :26:50.to have come up with an agreed package before September 18, so
:26:51. > :26:54.people knew what they were voting for. If everyone thinks it is so
:26:55. > :26:58.easy now to find common area is, why couldn't you have done it before the
:26:59. > :27:03.referendum? We were operating to different timescales and processes.
:27:04. > :27:07.There was a bit of healthy competition, which I don't think is
:27:08. > :27:12.bad in terms of the offer to the people of Scotland. But we need to
:27:13. > :27:16.come together, clearly, and I think that is the expectation of people
:27:17. > :27:20.who voted no and people who voted yes. 100% of them voted for more
:27:21. > :27:24.change and that is now up to us to deliver. While the three party set
:27:25. > :27:29.out there are proposals, I am encouraged by the fact that I want
:27:30. > :27:33.people to contribute, I want people to contribute to the process so that
:27:34. > :27:37.we have a proper dialogue and we can move forward, but we do so in the
:27:38. > :27:41.frame that the majority of people in Scotland voted no, they do want more
:27:42. > :27:45.powers, but they wants to remain part of the United Kingdom. I think
:27:46. > :27:51.Lord Smith will be aware of that fact.
:27:52. > :27:59.Why couldn't it have been done before September 18?
:28:00. > :28:04.I think Jackie makes a very good point. Of the three parties have
:28:05. > :28:07.come by different routes and different timescales and by
:28:08. > :28:13.different processes to their final deliberations. Why couldn't you
:28:14. > :28:17.spent the summer sorting out? We were already in the thick of the
:28:18. > :28:21.referendum campaign when the single issue to be determined was do we
:28:22. > :28:25.remain within the United Kingdom or not? Patrick says people out there
:28:26. > :28:30.have an appetite for radical change. What the referendum results confirms
:28:31. > :28:35.is that people have an appetite for remaining within the United Kingdom.
:28:36. > :28:40.There are important characteristics that flow from that. I heard people
:28:41. > :28:43.say, we like being part of something where if we live in Glasgow we can
:28:44. > :28:49.go visit a relative down the south of England and get the same state
:28:50. > :28:55.pension... Anywhere else in Europe. Let's rerun the arguments. That pick
:28:56. > :28:57.up on a lighter note, what did you make of the Prime Minister
:28:58. > :29:04.discussing what he said to the Queen? I'm not particularly
:29:05. > :29:08.interested in what animal noises Mrs Windsor chooses to make in any
:29:09. > :29:13.circumstance, but to let us recognise that one of the things
:29:14. > :29:18.that we have to try and do is capture this reconnection between
:29:19. > :29:22.people and politics. Let's not see this as simply establishment people,
:29:23. > :29:25.whether Westminster or Holyrood, large parties or small, simply
:29:26. > :29:32.carving the process up and carving up the future of Scotland. This has
:29:33. > :29:36.to be about answering a public appetite for public participation .
:29:37. > :29:41.I'll be back at the same time tomorrow night.
:29:42. > :30:43.This is only the beginning, says President Obama, as America and five
:30:44. > :30:46.Arab states take on ISIS. We're going to do what is necessary to
:30:47. > :30:49.take the fight to this terrorist group. For the security of the
:30:50. > :30:54.country and the region and for the entire world. The air strikes target
:30:55. > :30:55.Jihadists in Syria