:00:00. > :00:00.Where does Scotland stand in the re-negotiation of Britain's
:00:07. > :00:36.The UK Government wants a new deal for Britain for Europe.
:00:37. > :00:38.But the Scottish Government thinks David Cameron's edging us out
:00:39. > :00:42.We speak to the UK's Minister for Europe as he flies into
:00:43. > :00:47.Edinburgh and ask him where Scotland stands in the negotiations.
:00:48. > :00:49.And the "catalogue of untruths" that followed the leaked memo.
:00:50. > :00:50.Alistair Carmichael's opponents' lawyers make
:00:51. > :01:01.David Cameron is enjoying dinner tonight with his fellow European
:01:02. > :01:04.leaders as they meet in Malta for talks on the migrants crisis.
:01:05. > :01:08.The Prime Minister says he's determined to deliver
:01:09. > :01:11.his reform agenda after setting out his demands.
:01:12. > :01:13.Today, his Europe Minister came to Edinburgh to update the Scottish
:01:14. > :01:19.Huw Williams now looks at what the Conservatives want -
:01:20. > :01:33.David Cameron says he wants to end moves to ever closer union within
:01:34. > :01:39.Europe, Miss -- make sure the UK does not miss out, and perhaps most
:01:40. > :01:49.controversially restrict benefits for migrants. But he knows all of
:01:50. > :01:57.that will not satisfy Eurosceptics in his own party. Isn't the onus on
:01:58. > :02:01.those that advocate that we should stay in the European Union to
:02:02. > :02:04.explain why we should put up with being a second-tier country in an
:02:05. > :03:42.increasingly centralised European Union?
:03:43. > :03:46.increasingly centralised European and gives us protection with an
:03:47. > :03:49.business matters. He talks about protections on migration. We have a
:03:50. > :03:55.more positive approach to migration and think that people who come to
:03:56. > :04:00.this country have a lot to offer to the Scottish economy. But membership
:04:01. > :04:04.of the EU is not dependent on reform agenda, we believe reform can be
:04:05. > :04:10.achieved within the EU. What of the UK wants to leave and Scotland wants
:04:11. > :04:14.to stay? Should that prompt another Independence Referendum? This is not
:04:15. > :04:20.a proxy debate for independence. We need to make this case. It is
:04:21. > :04:25.serious. This means 3 million jobs for Britain. Huge investment in
:04:26. > :04:28.industry and science research. It means peace across the continent.
:04:29. > :04:33.That is what the European Union has meant. Doors are bigger things than
:04:34. > :04:38.the timing of an Independence Referendum. If the UK voted to leave
:04:39. > :04:42.the European Union there would be bigger problems in terms of clarity
:04:43. > :04:45.about terms and conditions that Scotland would have as a member of
:04:46. > :04:52.the European Union. The process of achieving that. We need to work
:04:53. > :04:56.together with everybody who wants to win the case for a social Europe, a
:04:57. > :05:01.progressive unit, and for all of us to stay within Europe.
:05:02. > :05:04.The Prime Minister is promising what he calls a once-in-a-lifetime
:05:05. > :05:06.referendum on Europe by the end of 2017.
:05:07. > :05:21.Well, the UK Government's Europe Minister David Lidington met with
:05:22. > :05:22.Fiona Hyslop at lunchtime to update and
:05:23. > :05:40.I have been debating Europe with other colleagues who are deeply
:05:41. > :05:48.sceptical about British membership of the EU for some years. The
:05:49. > :05:53.comments did not surprise me. There are people in both the Conservative
:05:54. > :05:57.and Labour parties who are in favour of EU membership and against EU
:05:58. > :06:01.membership. There are people who quite on hold opposite views on this
:06:02. > :06:08.subject right across the political divide. As Bernard Jenkin said, is
:06:09. > :06:11.that it? Do you not think the Primus has watered down his demands source
:06:12. > :06:18.looks as though he is seeking quite an easy agreements with the other
:06:19. > :06:26.leaders? Far from it. As I talk to other European governments, you will
:06:27. > :06:31.see that DC what's the UK is proposing as a pretty significant
:06:32. > :06:34.challenge to business as usual in the EU operates. We have
:06:35. > :06:41.consistently argued that that it is in Europe's interest as a whole, not
:06:42. > :06:46.just butted's, for you look to be more competitive, more democratic
:06:47. > :06:52.and flexible than a toast today. If you look does not get it right the
:06:53. > :06:59.British people's support for membership will be at further risk.
:07:00. > :07:02.There is discontent for European decision-making in many European
:07:03. > :07:07.countries. If the problems of the economic performance and lack of
:07:08. > :07:09.democratic accountability is not sufficiently address.
:07:10. > :07:14.Want are going to spread. It is quite clear the Prime Minister has
:07:15. > :07:20.objective is to fulfil. He does not have demands. Critics were saying
:07:21. > :07:23.that the benefits residency core vacation is being watered down. The
:07:24. > :07:30.Prime Minister has been clear. We do have to have as part of the outcome
:07:31. > :07:34.to the negotiation effective means to stop the sort of mass migration
:07:35. > :07:42.of very large embers of people that we have seen in this country over
:07:43. > :07:46.recent years. -- large numbers of people. People expect border
:07:47. > :07:50.management of migration. People see the need for that while at the same
:07:51. > :07:54.time accepting that most of the people who have come here from
:07:55. > :08:00.central or southern Europe are working hard and all being the law.
:08:01. > :08:06.But we do need to address the pull factors in the welfare system, one
:08:07. > :08:10.of the reasons why the UK has become more attractive. Your critics think
:08:11. > :08:14.the Primus are setting up an easy deal. What is the timetable? When
:08:15. > :08:20.might this be presented to the British public? The people who say
:08:21. > :08:25.that it is very easy are not those who have been at the EULA PN
:08:26. > :08:30.Government negotiations. It is hard to predict. The earliest would be
:08:31. > :08:35.the summit meeting of European leaders in December. That is an
:08:36. > :08:41.ambitious timetable not an one. There is now going to be an
:08:42. > :08:44.acceleration in negotiations which the President of the European
:08:45. > :08:48.council will meet in Brussels but which will also involve David
:08:49. > :08:52.Cameron talking to all of the 27 head of Government counterparts
:08:53. > :08:58.around the EU. If we do not get a deal in December we will go forward
:08:59. > :09:02.into 2016. The important thing is to get an Agreement of substance and
:09:03. > :09:06.significance, not any artificial timetable.
:09:07. > :09:10.Alex Johnstone the Conservative MP in Scotland says once we know what
:09:11. > :09:15.is on offer we can make up our minds. Your critics think the Prime
:09:16. > :09:19.Minister has is mainly made up will campaign to stay in the EU. The
:09:20. > :09:24.Primus said his objective is to win reforms that will enable him to
:09:25. > :09:32.campaign heart and soul to the new British membership. It is fair to
:09:33. > :09:38.say that some of the Primus of's critics are people who made up their
:09:39. > :09:42.mind on the European Union a long time ago. You were in Scotland today
:09:43. > :09:47.meeting Fiona Hyslop. She said there has been a lack of communication
:09:48. > :09:52.with the Scottish governments, you have not been telling her what has
:09:53. > :09:55.been happening. I had you not been communicating and consulting with
:09:56. > :10:01.the Scottish Government when you think what is at stake in Scotland?
:10:02. > :10:05.We have had the EU renegotiation as a matter on the agenda at the
:10:06. > :10:09.regular ministerial meetings that I cheer involving devolved ministers
:10:10. > :10:12.of all three devolved illustrations ever since the Conservative
:10:13. > :10:16.Government was elected in May this year. I had a very good meeting with
:10:17. > :10:22.Fiona Hyslop this morning. We discussed how we could ensure that
:10:23. > :10:25.during the negotiations in future the Scottish Government and the
:10:26. > :10:30.Welsh and Northern Irish governments could feed in their views, their
:10:31. > :10:35.concerns, to ministers and officials in London negotiating on behalf of
:10:36. > :10:41.the UK. At the end of the day it is the UK that the member state for the
:10:42. > :10:47.EU. In the same either France or Germany is stop UK ministers are
:10:48. > :10:51.responsible for taking those decisions for carrying forward those
:10:52. > :10:55.negotiations. Scottish members of parliament in Westminster are active
:10:56. > :11:00.at holding us to account. We want to make sure that devolved
:11:01. > :11:04.illustrations feel they are properly consulted that the interests have
:11:05. > :11:09.been concerned. The four areas the Prime Minister
:11:10. > :11:13.has laid out. The Scottish is saying they are particularly concerned
:11:14. > :11:17.about workers rights. And if a new deal could endanger workers rights.
:11:18. > :11:21.What kind of assurances that he performs to the Scottish
:11:22. > :11:28.Government? Nobody in the UK Government is proposing to make a
:11:29. > :11:33.bonfire of things like paternity leave or protection of workers. They
:11:34. > :11:41.have suggested a bonfire of the new U Minh rates legislation. They have
:11:42. > :11:47.also suggested there strong tradition of human rights before the
:11:48. > :11:55.Tony Blair Human Rights Act of 1998. The changes also needs to make sure
:11:56. > :12:02.we retain our ability to create jobs. We look at the record of the
:12:03. > :12:05.UK in terms of job creation, keeping people in work despite challenging
:12:06. > :12:08.economic circumstances, we are doing far better than many of our
:12:09. > :12:14.counterparts elsewhere in Europe. That is in part due to the fact that
:12:15. > :12:18.we have things like opt out from the working Time directive, we have a
:12:19. > :12:22.flexible Labour markets, that has bit there are more people in work
:12:23. > :12:26.here than in most other European countries. Do you appreciate there
:12:27. > :12:31.is a different feeling in Scotland about the European Union than in
:12:32. > :12:38.England? A survey today said 55% of Scots want to stay in the EU but 43%
:12:39. > :12:44.of people in England back leaving. Do you appreciate that? People in
:12:45. > :12:48.Scotland on the whole have been more favourable than the average in
:12:49. > :12:55.England for staying in the EU. But there are significant numbers in
:12:56. > :13:01.both nations and all parts of the UK who hold views on either side of the
:13:02. > :13:05.argument. One has to conduct the campaign that we will see over the
:13:06. > :13:10.months and perhaps years to come with respect for one another's point
:13:11. > :13:14.of view. Fiona Hyslop has been saying that David Cameron's position
:13:15. > :13:20.risks alienating everyone. People will not be happy with the deal he
:13:21. > :13:24.proposes and people in the UK might thought to leave the EU, but a
:13:25. > :13:30.majority of Scots might fought to stay. But the issue is a difficult
:13:31. > :13:38.position. The UK joined the European Union as a 1 member state. It is a
:13:39. > :13:42.decision for the UK. In terms of the Primus of's position on this, if you
:13:43. > :13:47.look at every opinion poll when people are asked what account they
:13:48. > :13:51.will take of David Cameron's position that has a massive
:13:52. > :13:55.influence upon hope people then expect that they will thought. A
:13:56. > :14:01.large number of people say that they would be dated to a certain extent
:14:02. > :14:03.but what the Prime Minister recommends.
:14:04. > :14:07.I spoke earlier but what was at stake here. If a majority of Scots
:14:08. > :14:14.fought to stay in the EU but the majority of people in the UK fought
:14:15. > :14:17.to leave it could be a change in circumstances, a material change in
:14:18. > :14:20.circumstances, but could trigger another referendum for independence
:14:21. > :14:27.for Scotland. What is your take on that?
:14:28. > :14:37.People took their decision at the referendum. There will be a vigorous
:14:38. > :14:42.discussion. This is an issue where as far as all be 27 European
:14:43. > :14:45.governments are concerned, this is a matter for the United Kingdom as a
:14:46. > :14:51.whole, a decision for the whole of the UK. Do you appreciate that could
:14:52. > :14:57.happen? I appreciate there is the challenge. I hope very much that we
:14:58. > :15:01.get the outcome that David Cameron seeks and I believe he can obtain
:15:02. > :15:07.which is that we get a set of ambitious reforms to the European
:15:08. > :15:10.Union, we set our relationship with the European Union and we get
:15:11. > :15:12.support for the successful negotiation in every part of the UK.
:15:13. > :15:16.David Liddington, thank you. Now the former
:15:17. > :15:17.Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael told a "catalogue
:15:18. > :15:19.of untruths" after launching an "un-guided missile" in the form
:15:20. > :15:22.of that infamous leaked memo. That's what the QC said who's
:15:23. > :15:24.representing four of his But Mr Carmichael's defence lawyer
:15:25. > :15:31.urged the Election Court to refuse the campaigner's petition on this,
:15:32. > :15:45.the last day of evidence. Cameras were allowed in court to
:15:46. > :15:50.enable Alistair Carmichael's constituents in Orkney and Shetland
:15:51. > :15:55.to follow the case live. The hearing focused on a memo about Nicola
:15:56. > :15:59.Sturgeon leaked to a paper in the run-up to the election. Alistair
:16:00. > :16:02.Carmichael denied involvement but it emerged he had sanctioned its
:16:03. > :16:09.release. In court it was claimed he misled the public. The image he
:16:10. > :16:17.presents to the court is that he is putting his own reputation on the
:16:18. > :16:21.line for the good of his party. Ultimately he takes a hit on this.
:16:22. > :16:29.Although, as he said, it never occurred to him that he would get
:16:30. > :16:33.caught. The constituents bring the case claimant Mr Carmichael broke
:16:34. > :16:37.election law which forbids anyone making false statements about the
:16:38. > :16:41.conduct or character of a candidate. Mr Khan Michael's lawyer
:16:42. > :16:45.said this was a political league and his false statement about his
:16:46. > :16:55.involvement was a political matter. A false denial of what one new...
:16:56. > :17:02.Does not relate to personal character or conduct at all. The
:17:03. > :17:06.leak was political in its entirety. The case has been crowd funded and
:17:07. > :17:13.those who brought it believe it is an important legal landmark. Nobody
:17:14. > :17:17.has done this before, not in living memory and we would not have been
:17:18. > :17:23.able to do it without 7000 people who put real money in to make this
:17:24. > :17:26.happen. It is worthwhile because democracy is worthwhile. The judges
:17:27. > :17:30.at this rare election court must now consider the evidence and they will
:17:31. > :17:33.give their judgment to the House of Commons at a later date. They have
:17:34. > :17:40.to decide whether or not Alistair Carmichael broke election law and if
:17:41. > :17:41.his election as MP for Orkney and Shetland should stand or be declared
:17:42. > :17:42.void. Joining me now from our Dundee
:17:43. > :17:44.studio to discuss this, is Andy Nicoll, the political editor
:17:45. > :17:57.of The Scottish Sun. Thank you for joining us. It is a
:17:58. > :18:05.complex case, can you, get to the nub of what they are looking at?
:18:06. > :18:11.Well, I am not a lawyer and happily this case is not in front of a jury
:18:12. > :18:18.so anything I say will not influence a jury but my understanding is that
:18:19. > :18:21.as we heard in the package if you make false claims about a candidate
:18:22. > :18:30.during an election it can invalidate the election, at an earlier hearing
:18:31. > :18:38.Mr Khan Michael's defence solicitor suggested that that did not apply to
:18:39. > :18:44.him, only false statements about... Their Lordships said, they would
:18:45. > :18:49.like to hear more. The case continued past the first hurdle. Now
:18:50. > :18:57.he is in court and he has been forced to say yes, I lied and I lied
:18:58. > :19:01.and I lied and I lied but all these lies were purely political lives and
:19:02. > :19:08.not personal lives. And that is his final shield. If he had lied
:19:09. > :19:11.personally then that would be a bad thing but if you live is politically
:19:12. > :19:19.he can get away with it because when the whole thing blew up, Sir Malcolm
:19:20. > :19:22.Bruce went on the wireless and pointed out if you pat sack all the
:19:23. > :19:27.adulterers in the House of Commons there would be no one left. So, they
:19:28. > :19:31.have retired and are considering their verdict. Wind you think we
:19:32. > :19:38.might hear that and inform the House of Commons? Yes, these elections, as
:19:39. > :19:43.I understand, are the property of the House of Commons, it is for them
:19:44. > :19:49.to rule. The lordships will present their opinion and say what the law
:19:50. > :19:52.is in the hands in the hands of the House of Commons to decide if you
:19:53. > :19:57.need a rerun of the election. Everything seems to point to it
:19:58. > :20:02.being a slim chance. That the election will be overturned. It is
:20:03. > :20:09.almost unheard of. But the damage to Alistair Carmichael has been done.
:20:10. > :20:15.And the big problem is how far that explosion will scatter out the
:20:16. > :20:20.detritus against other candidates. Alistair Carmichael as the MP for
:20:21. > :20:31.Orkney and Shetland is the southernmost Lib Dem MP. I was going
:20:32. > :20:34.to say we have seen extraordinary things in Scottish politics this
:20:35. > :20:41.year alone and this has been one of them. Quite a fall from grace and
:20:42. > :20:50.something we have not seen for 50 years. It is a dreadful thing. As
:20:51. > :20:54.you say, Alistair -- Alistair Carmichael, finds himself in a
:20:55. > :20:58.position whereby his only defence is to completely blacken his own
:20:59. > :21:02.character. The only way he can cling onto his highly paid job for 4.5
:21:03. > :21:08.years is to say, yes, I am a scoundrel which does not make things
:21:09. > :21:12.very hopeful for him to hold on to his seat. OK, thank you very much
:21:13. > :21:13.for joining us. A weather warning has been upgraded
:21:14. > :21:16.from yellow to amber as the country The Met Office says winds could gust
:21:17. > :21:34.up to 90mph in parts of Scotland Storm Abigail is set to make quite
:21:35. > :21:38.an entrance tomorrow, the Met office has issued an amber be prepared
:21:39. > :21:42.warning for the far north and north-west well because he gusts of
:21:43. > :21:48.80 or 90 miles an hour. Across the rest of the North and central
:21:49. > :21:51.Scotland, gusts of 60 or 70 miles an hour. Expect disruption to travel
:21:52. > :21:56.and potentially to power supplies. To start the day, a benign note,
:21:57. > :22:00.Sunshine in the east but soon clouding over, rain in the North and
:22:01. > :22:02.central Scotland, gusts of 60 or 70 miles an hour. Expect disruption to
:22:03. > :22:05.travel and potentially to power supplies. To start the day, a benign
:22:06. > :22:20.note, Sunshine in the east but soon clouding over, rain in the gusts so
:22:21. > :22:23.you can see we are at gale force around many of the coasts and survey
:22:24. > :22:26.gusts of 60 or 70 miles an hour for the Western Isles, Northern Isles
:22:27. > :22:30.and north-east coast. The wind will increase as we go through the
:22:31. > :22:34.evening and overnight and the deep low tracks to the north-west. In
:22:35. > :22:39.addition, the evening rush-hour will see heavy rain pushing eastwards so
:22:40. > :22:44.more problems for traffic on the roads, poor conditions, the wind is
:22:45. > :22:53.the main feature, gusts of 60 to 70 miles an hour to Central Scotland,
:22:54. > :22:57.and in the far north parts heavy squally showers, thunder at times
:22:58. > :23:04.and showers falling as snow above 400 metres. Friday, you will notice
:23:05. > :23:05.the cold feel, strong winds, plenty of showers, thunder at times and
:23:06. > :23:08.wintry on the hills. With me in the studio this evening
:23:09. > :23:10.is the journalist and author Peter Geoghegan and Cat Stewart
:23:11. > :23:27.from The Herald. It is Armistice Day today, millions
:23:28. > :23:32.of people, hundreds fell silent across the UK. Many did on
:23:33. > :23:36.Remembrance Sunday as well. You are not wearing a poppy. What do you
:23:37. > :23:44.feel about poppies? Do feel pressurised? I didn't until right
:23:45. > :23:53.now! I was thinking back, everyone on TV is wearing one, maybe I put it
:23:54. > :23:57.on without recognising. My issue is it has become a big political issue,
:23:58. > :24:06.we are talking more and more about did Sienna Miller wear a poppy or
:24:07. > :24:09.someone else not? Poppies on the newspapers and football shirts. I
:24:10. > :24:16.feel it is a fixation. We talk less and less about the causes, not just
:24:17. > :24:22.World War I but we do not talk much about the conflicts and we do not
:24:23. > :24:26.talk about what weather causes of World War I and the residences
:24:27. > :24:33.because if you look at what happened after World War I, we are currently
:24:34. > :24:39.seeing a huge huge congregation across these areas in the Middle
:24:40. > :24:43.East and read about the wars now. Yeah, that is a huge problem with
:24:44. > :24:47.having the poppy as a moral symbol and being hugely critical of people
:24:48. > :24:53.who choose not to where it. A big part of the day is about reflection
:24:54. > :24:56.and looking at identity and if you compel people to do something you
:24:57. > :25:00.are not giving them the opportunity to reflect or give them a choice.
:25:01. > :25:05.Some people were criticised on ITV News who does not wear the poppy and
:25:06. > :25:09.a footballer was not wearing a poppy and I suppose the pressure is put on
:25:10. > :25:16.them. With social media as well, it changes things. Yeah, social media
:25:17. > :25:21.has many many benefits but one of its big downfalls is it creates two
:25:22. > :25:24.moral camps and you are in one or the other and there was no space for
:25:25. > :25:29.new ones. There are great reasons for not wearing a poppy, I wear one
:25:30. > :25:34.because I had a great uncle who died in the war and I feel a connection
:25:35. > :25:40.to him. But, you No, Peter quite equally have a choice not to wear
:25:41. > :25:46.one. Peter, has remembrance changed, there is more of a focus on Iraqi
:25:47. > :25:50.and Afghanistan and the focus was on the veterans of the Second World War
:25:51. > :25:57.and the Falklands. Yes, interesting because the poppy focused on the
:25:58. > :26:03.poppy was recent in some regards to not having as much remembrance in
:26:04. > :26:07.the 80s and 90s, it was the British Legion bringing back a much more
:26:08. > :26:13.remembrance, two minutes on a Sunday and Armistice Day and remembrance
:26:14. > :26:15.changes. What is important is the focus remains on remembrance rather
:26:16. > :26:23.than focus remains on remembrance rather
:26:24. > :26:27.News of the day, cuts to tax credits. Gordon Brown was making the
:26:28. > :26:31.news today. He accused the government of turning its fire on
:26:32. > :26:37.the working poor and children. If these tax credit reforms go ahead,
:26:38. > :26:40.and all the other changes that are being proposed by the Conservative
:26:41. > :26:46.government that affect job poverty, then not only will the numbers of
:26:47. > :26:52.children in poverty rise faster than at any time in the last 50 years but
:26:53. > :26:56.they will reach a peak in 2020 at a level that is higher than at any
:26:57. > :27:02.time during the recessions of the 70s, 80s and 90s.
:27:03. > :27:04.Gordon Brown, the architect of tax credits. Do these interventions
:27:05. > :28:43.matter from an expert minister. credits. Do these interventions
:28:44. > :28:50.pages over 4000 Corporation Tax One Direction but paid a point to ?4
:28:51. > :28:53.million Corporation Tax. Great, well done to one Direction. I am loathe
:28:54. > :28:59.to give them the thumbs up for doing what they morally should be doing
:29:00. > :29:02.and morally and legally should be doing. But perhaps we need to sit
:29:03. > :29:11.them down with George Osborne and get them to swap tips. Of course
:29:12. > :29:16.Facebook can do that. I guess the big question is is it possible to
:29:17. > :29:19.get international agreement and we have not been able to do it. There
:29:20. > :29:26.was a big question for some of these... Amazon play tax last year,
:29:27. > :29:31.almost as much as it got from the Scottish government just for their
:29:32. > :29:36.plants in Dunfermline. Similar grants down south, I do not know if
:29:37. > :29:39.governments are doing enough, there are other avenues. OK, thank you.
:29:40. > :29:46.I'll be back at the same time tomorrow night.
:29:47. > :30:01.From all of us and the team, have a good night.
:30:02. > :30:03.I'm here today to tell you the truth.
:30:04. > :30:05.Are you sure you want to continue down this road?
:30:06. > :30:08.Lots of people think they have nothing to lose.
:30:09. > :30:10.They just haven't thought it through.
:30:11. > :30:14.You have the very particular stink of a man out of his depth.
:30:15. > :30:17.You blunder further into a situation you simply do not understand.
:30:18. > :31:00.Tonight, a year from the US elec ions, we are ive ?n0NewJO 000
:31:01. > :31:04.Hamp?hire - the first pzi ary ? qtu to cast its ballot for president,