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:00:00. > :00:00.The blame game begins with calls for an inquiry into the closure

:00:07. > :00:30.Commuters and businesses struggle on as MSPs demand answers

:00:31. > :00:34.on maintenance of the Forth Road Bridge.

:00:35. > :00:39.The Lords scrutinise the Scotland Bill and suggest Holyrood

:00:40. > :00:41.gets it's own upper chamber, House of Lairds anyone?

:00:42. > :00:45.And author Michel Faber tells us about winning prizes

:00:46. > :00:58.For five full days now the Forth Road Bridge has stood empty

:00:59. > :01:00.as the diversion routes surrounding it have clogged with cars.

:01:01. > :01:03.Planning for the weeks ahead, extra seats on trains and buses have

:01:04. > :01:05.been found, but businesses are already feeling the impact.

:01:06. > :01:07.Meanwhile there's been calls for an inquiry into

:01:08. > :01:31.It is looking slow southbound. Maybe 35 minutes to clear the stretch. As

:01:32. > :01:34.commuters were being briefed this morning by BBC radio Scotland's

:01:35. > :01:45.travel reports, the First Minister was being briefed at the transport

:01:46. > :01:54.HQ. It has been stated that the flaw was not caused by a weakness in

:01:55. > :01:59.funding. I understand what is going on and I want to say thank you to

:02:00. > :02:04.the travelling public for the patients. This clap that has

:02:05. > :02:10.resulted in the bridge being closed was on the scene and unforeseeable.

:02:11. > :02:15.But that is not quelling the concern at Holyrood. We know that in 2007

:02:16. > :02:19.transport Scotland peers needed on the bridge that were never carried

:02:20. > :02:23.out. People have questions and they need answers that is why today I am

:02:24. > :02:27.calling for a a Parliamentary enquiry. It was not predicted to

:02:28. > :02:33.fail or crack in the way that it has. Because of the comprehensive

:02:34. > :02:38.inspections and the daily and weekly inspections, it is that information

:02:39. > :02:42.that leads our expert engineers to conclude that this sport has only

:02:43. > :02:47.occurred in the last few weeks. Regulations are being relaxed so

:02:48. > :02:54.diverted lorry drivers can try for an extra two hours a day. That seems

:02:55. > :02:58.small compensation. It is a disaster for Scottish businesses because even

:02:59. > :03:04.coming down from the north, you would come over the bridge and head

:03:05. > :03:08.south, but they are coming down into congested areas, so it is affecting

:03:09. > :03:14.everybody. But at least lorries are being given priority on the

:03:15. > :03:22.diversion as the bridge stands idle. There has been a how small

:03:23. > :03:28.businesses to keep busy. Small businesses use vans more than HGV

:03:29. > :03:32.lorries. They are important, but the van traffic had to get through as

:03:33. > :03:40.well. The effect on this more business is already being felt for

:03:41. > :03:49.the -- been felt. This company has built up a clear on Tel bash MacBook

:03:50. > :04:00.up the clientele that they rely on. It has probably scared of the

:04:01. > :04:05.customers. They don't want to risk getting caught in traffic. I

:04:06. > :04:09.normally have at least two potential customers come through the door

:04:10. > :04:13.every day and talk to me, but I have not had any at all this week. And

:04:14. > :04:18.there will be a great many more businesses wondering just when cars,

:04:19. > :04:19.performance or otherwise, will be allowed back on this bridge.

:04:20. > :04:23.A little earlier I spoke to the Transport Minister Derek McKay

:04:24. > :04:31.and in Dundee Scottish Lib Dem leader Willie Rennie.

:04:32. > :04:39.We heard from businesses there in the film that are badly affected. A

:04:40. > :04:43.disaster one of them called it. Will there be any compensation for

:04:44. > :04:53.businesses? The Deputy Prime Minister has convened meetings with

:04:54. > :04:57.businesses to hear their concerns. The most important thing is to get

:04:58. > :05:00.the bridge open as quickly as possible and we are certainly

:05:01. > :05:06.working hard to do that. I understand that, but what about

:05:07. > :05:13.compensation? Of these companies are losing a lot of money. Compensation

:05:14. > :05:17.is on our list of concerns, but I am focused on getting the bridge open

:05:18. > :05:24.as soon as possible. During this disruption, to give a priority to

:05:25. > :05:29.HGV lorries, to get the transport of goods moving under what is a

:05:30. > :05:32.difficult time. What about fans? We heard in the film that they would

:05:33. > :05:39.benefit from these priority routes as well. We are adding to the number

:05:40. > :05:49.of vehicles that can use the priority routes. Willie Rennie, do

:05:50. > :05:54.you think enough is being done to help businesses here? No. Watch more

:05:55. > :05:57.needs to be done. One of the issues we need to look at is lifting the

:05:58. > :06:05.restrictions during the off-peak hours during the daytime on the

:06:06. > :06:11.special HGV route. It is good to hear that light goods vehicles will

:06:12. > :06:15.be allowed on that routes, but we need to allow traffic of all kinds

:06:16. > :06:19.during the day because many businesses along that route are

:06:20. > :06:27.having their businesses are strict it. They are losing something like

:06:28. > :06:31.?600,000 a day because of the extra travel costs and the extra time on

:06:32. > :06:34.the road. I think the least we can do is bend over backwards to make

:06:35. > :06:39.sure we are doing all we possibly can to help them at this difficult

:06:40. > :06:44.time. That is a fair point. He knows we are actively looking at that, to

:06:45. > :06:50.lift that off-peak restriction of other vehicles to support business

:06:51. > :06:53.at this time. That would be a very helpful intervention, but can also

:06:54. > :06:59.make the point that if we had not taken the decision we had to close

:07:00. > :07:02.the bridge to protect its structural integrity, I think the damage would

:07:03. > :07:05.have been worse and it would have meant a longer closure to the bridge

:07:06. > :07:11.which would have had a greater impact on the economy and commuters

:07:12. > :07:15.in the area. That is move on to the maintenance of the bridge. There has

:07:16. > :07:18.been a lot talked about today as to whether enough had been done

:07:19. > :07:25.previously. You said the crack was unforeseeable. There were plans five

:07:26. > :07:29.years ago to replace the whole section of the bridge where the

:07:30. > :07:35.crack was found. Body to mistake that's that opportunity was not

:07:36. > :07:41.taken? That was a decision by the operating committee at the time. One

:07:42. > :07:47.expert advice, further strengthening works would be sufficient, but that

:07:48. > :07:58.is separate and is not related to this the specific for that is called

:07:59. > :08:03.the crack. Pap that were gone ahead, would not be cracked component had

:08:04. > :08:11.been repaired as well? The other works would have strengthened the

:08:12. > :08:20.brackets. But this would not have happened if the work had gone

:08:21. > :08:23.ahead. If they had, we would have required a major closure and it

:08:24. > :08:29.would have been disproportionate to the problem that was found at the

:08:30. > :08:35.time. The problems identified then could have been addressed with

:08:36. > :08:40.smaller work. This specific element was not predicted to crack in the

:08:41. > :08:46.way that it has and just in terms of finance and maintenance budgets, the

:08:47. > :08:49.Scottish Government has spent over ?108 million since 2007 on the

:08:50. > :08:54.bridge in addition to the resources that were spent by the committee.

:08:55. > :08:59.It's not about maintenance budgets or spending reviews, it is a

:09:00. > :09:03.specific port that was not foreseen. It is being remedied and we will

:09:04. > :09:07.have the bridge open as soon as possible. That is from engineers who

:09:08. > :09:16.have proved myself and Willie Rennie. Do you accept those

:09:17. > :09:21.assurances and it is not about budget cuts? There is a lot of

:09:22. > :09:26.technical information available. I receive some of it this afternoon,

:09:27. > :09:31.but what we do need, we come possibly avoid this, we need to have

:09:32. > :09:36.a proper independent enquiry into this issue. Some have suggested a

:09:37. > :09:41.Parliamentary enquiry. We cannot have this level of disruption in

:09:42. > :09:48.Fife and beyond without an independent look at it. I heard the

:09:49. > :09:52.briefings today and I saw and heard the explanations do this, but you

:09:53. > :09:55.can't rely on me to make that assessment. We need some proper

:09:56. > :09:59.independent engineers to look at this issue because this has been a

:10:00. > :10:06.colossal disruption to the area, so we need that done independently.

:10:07. > :10:10.There are two different areas of pressure at the moment. One is the

:10:11. > :10:15.capital spend that had been reduced, but secondly was the desire

:10:16. > :10:20.to minimise the disruption on the bridge in at Barnes of the Newbridge

:10:21. > :10:27.being constructed. There is no doubt it was under considerable strain,

:10:28. > :10:30.but there were trying to minimise traffic disruption. We need to

:10:31. > :10:36.discover whether those decisions were right or wrong and whether

:10:37. > :10:41.independent advice was available to make those assessments. Will there

:10:42. > :10:44.be a Parliamentary enquiry? That will be a matter for the

:10:45. > :10:54.Parliamentary authorities to determine. Transport Scotland will

:10:55. > :10:57.be supportive... Do you accept there are some questions that need

:10:58. > :11:05.answering? We are answering them through technical meetings. We are

:11:06. > :11:10.more than happy to cooperate with any enquiry and answer any question

:11:11. > :11:13.that is asked and I have outlined the government's position in a

:11:14. > :11:18.statement to Parliament today. If people want more information, that

:11:19. > :11:24.can be provided. What is important to understand is much of this has

:11:25. > :11:28.been checked by independent engineers to verify what we have

:11:29. > :11:31.been told and what we understand to be the case, but the priority right

:11:32. > :11:40.now has two B to get the bridge fixed and get it opened as quickly

:11:41. > :11:43.as possible. That has to be the priority and people should not be

:11:44. > :11:48.distracted from that task. Understood. Willie Rennie? I accept

:11:49. > :11:53.that last point. We need to get the bridge fixed and that alternative

:11:54. > :11:56.transport arrangements are right, but Derek cannot possibly believe

:11:57. > :12:01.that a technical briefing is sufficient. We need to have an

:12:02. > :12:05.independent enquiry. I would like to hear him say that he would give his

:12:06. > :12:10.absolute backing, in fact he would in courage the Parliamentary

:12:11. > :12:14.authorities or sanction an independent enquiry. That will be

:12:15. > :12:19.some assurance to the people in Fife who are going through this difficult

:12:20. > :12:24.time. Will he give that commitment? It is for the Parliamentary

:12:25. > :12:31.authorities to determine the nature of any enquiry. But will you give it

:12:32. > :12:37.your backing? Of course, but our maximum efforts, as Willie Rennie

:12:38. > :12:41.has seen today, it is getting the bridge fixed and getting it open,

:12:42. > :12:48.was that the same time it again in the impact on the area, on commuters

:12:49. > :12:53.and businesses. So you would back a Parliamentary enquiry? If Parliament

:12:54. > :13:04.once to conduct an enquiry, of course I will participate. Right

:13:05. > :13:13.efforts -- right now, all efforts should be focused on opening the

:13:14. > :13:16.bridge and mitigating the impact, which we have done to a

:13:17. > :13:24.comprehensive plan. Are you happy with that? I take it as a backing. I

:13:25. > :13:30.think that is good and if that is the decision of the SNP and

:13:31. > :13:37.Parliament, I will welcome it. Also, we need to look at the situation

:13:38. > :13:43.going forward. It was unpredictable and unforeseen. What next will be

:13:44. > :13:50.unpredictable and on the scene? What investments will happen? That is

:13:51. > :13:58.what people in five will want to hear. That is a discussion for a

:13:59. > :14:01.different time. Thank you both very much.

:14:02. > :14:03.It's a massive constitutional clash between nationalists and unionists.

:14:04. > :14:05.The archaic traditions of the United Kingdom has tonight seen

:14:06. > :14:08.peers of the realm debating and voting on the Scotland Bill.

:14:09. > :14:10.Outside of the neo-gothic chamber, the SNP are left railing

:14:11. > :14:13.against what they see as out-dated, undemocratic practices.

:14:14. > :14:23.Andrew Kerr has been watching proceedings at Westminster.

:14:24. > :14:30.In this place they have been debating and legislating for

:14:31. > :14:33.hundreds of years. The UK has been changing and up-to-date's business

:14:34. > :14:39.in the House of Lords was the Scotland Bill. It is meant to fulfil

:14:40. > :14:45.the show made by the pro-union leaders. All the noble Lords are not

:14:46. > :14:51.happy with the Smith Commission. I understand that laws are made by

:14:52. > :14:56.Parliament. I did not think they were made up of subcommittees of

:14:57. > :15:03.appointed party politicians meeting in secret and then getting together

:15:04. > :15:08.with the leaders of the parties who did not in anyway consult their

:15:09. > :15:12.parties and that Parliament was then expected to rubber-stamp it. Lord

:15:13. > :15:14.Forsyth also argued against the way the UK Government is legislating to

:15:15. > :15:23.make the Scottish Parliament permanent.

:15:24. > :15:28.In Parliament, when a London centred body speaks about Scotland, the

:15:29. > :15:33.Scots perceive it as patronising, is not taking them seriously. That was

:15:34. > :15:37.the underlying dynamic that led to such a close shave in the

:15:38. > :15:42.referendum. And I speak as Unionists. Priests and peers, the

:15:43. > :15:49.entire tradition and as the SNP who choose not to be represented here.

:15:50. > :15:52.That an elected and accountable people somehow feel it is the right

:15:53. > :15:56.and entitlements to get involved in Scottish public life, nobody voted

:15:57. > :15:59.for these people and the woody key is all that much at what they have

:16:00. > :16:05.got to say about some of these issues. We will observe this as the

:16:06. > :16:13.pantomime titters. The SNP and the UK Government were agreed on one

:16:14. > :16:18.thing. The idea of a Scottish senate was a nonstarter but he made the

:16:19. > :16:23.case. It would be a check, a balance on the power of a 1-party state that

:16:24. > :16:27.we currently have in Scotland, just as the House of Lords is a check or

:16:28. > :16:30.a balance on the Government here. The peers have been going through

:16:31. > :16:35.the amendments in the House of Lords which is just behind me here,

:16:36. > :16:39.through that ornate arch. There will be more debate and discussion in

:16:40. > :16:43.this place and then the Scottish Parliament House to approve the

:16:44. > :16:46.principles of the Scotland Bill by the end of March in time for the

:16:47. > :16:51.Holyrood election. A fairly tight timetable.

:16:52. > :16:57.The Scottish and the UK Government have yet to agree a deal on the

:16:58. > :17:00.financial rules underpinning the new powers, the so-called fiscal

:17:01. > :17:07.framework. As the Lord spied on a reminder from an unlikely ally of

:17:08. > :17:13.the SNP. The language used, the attitudes shown, some members of the

:17:14. > :17:21.House only confirm the Scottish National Party that the English are

:17:22. > :17:27.hostile to us and I would humbly ask that members of your logic's House

:17:28. > :17:35.be more circumspect. The two forces battle it out, ancient and modern,

:17:36. > :17:36.each trying to reach out to perhaps disillusioned voters.

:17:37. > :17:40.Andrew Kerr reporting and he's at Westminster now.

:17:41. > :17:49.There has been a lot of talk about scrutiny tonight.

:17:50. > :17:54.Yes. Coming about because of the Amendment for that Scottish senate

:17:55. > :17:57.to be established. That has now been withdrawn. But there was debate in

:17:58. > :18:05.the House of Lords about scrutiny, the rule of the Scottish Government,

:18:06. > :18:10.but to move away from their party political disputes there is a lot of

:18:11. > :18:15.scrutiny going on here of the UK governments proposals. You see the

:18:16. > :18:19.rule but a second chamber, to look through this line by line Amendment

:18:20. > :18:25.and debate and discuss them in date and extensive detail. There was one

:18:26. > :18:31.debate, a constitutional argument about the decision to include a

:18:32. > :18:35.clause to ensure the Scottish Parliament and Scottish Government

:18:36. > :18:45.are made permanent. We heard Lord Forsyth criticising that. Ultimately

:18:46. > :18:51.out here on the Dean the SNP were of course criticising what was going on

:18:52. > :18:54.in there. Pete Wishart called at a pantomime. These debates and

:18:55. > :19:00.discussions will continue but that will be interesting to see when we

:19:01. > :19:03.get the Agreement on the fiscal framework, the Scottish Parliament

:19:04. > :19:08.also has to agree to the Scotland Bill, but the House of Lords might

:19:09. > :19:13.make more amendments. They may go back to the House of Commons and so

:19:14. > :19:18.forth and so on. The tight timetable to get that all organised before the

:19:19. > :19:20.Scottish Parliament rises for their elections in March. We will see what

:19:21. > :19:22.happens and keep you updated. The writer Michel Faber is Dutch

:19:23. > :19:24.by birth, Australian by upbringing and a Scottish writer

:19:25. > :19:28."by formation" which means he's eligible for prizes on account

:19:29. > :19:36.of having lived here for 22 years. He recently won the Saltire Prize

:19:37. > :19:40.for what he says is his last novel - Our arts correspondent

:19:41. > :19:59.Pauline McLean went to meet him the Given that I am not a Scot and that

:20:00. > :20:14.I feel all my life like such an alien anywhere it was like waves of

:20:15. > :20:20.acceptance and love. People saying, yes, this is your home and we love

:20:21. > :20:29.your work and we are here to celebrate that. And I was very

:20:30. > :20:35.moved. But the happiness was tempered by the fact that my wife

:20:36. > :20:41.Eva died last year and was not in that audience. Tell us about who you

:20:42. > :20:51.ended up in Scotland in the first place. I have been here 22 years.

:20:52. > :20:57.Eva did a typical Eva thing. She contacted people at random in

:20:58. > :21:00.foreign phonebooks, saying, I am in a stew in English teacher and I am

:21:01. > :21:11.going to be travelling around Europe and we July to meet me. And a number

:21:12. > :21:19.of people responded throughout Europe. She also came to Scotland.

:21:20. > :21:26.One of the people she met invited her to visit him on the farm where

:21:27. > :21:32.he lived. She fell in love with this farm and decided she wanted to spend

:21:33. > :21:36.the rest of her life there. And it inspired my novel Under The Skin

:21:37. > :21:42.which is essentially set on that farm. It has a Scottish sense of

:21:43. > :21:52.place. The sense of place is Eva's. I like the idea of a talented and

:21:53. > :21:58.vision of the artist in a different medium, in this case Jonathan

:21:59. > :22:06.Glazer, director, making something which is inspired, sparked, by

:22:07. > :22:09.e-book, but which achieves something radically different and I think the

:22:10. > :22:17.film did. Come to me. I wanted to write a

:22:18. > :22:24.Victorian novel. I wrote a Victorian novel. I am proud of it. I did not

:22:25. > :22:32.want to then be the person that writes the Victorian novels and that

:22:33. > :22:39.is my franchise. I will pay her whatever makes her

:22:40. > :22:43.happy. One of the reasons why I have decided to not write any more novels

:22:44. > :22:50.is because I felt I have gone through the genres stop I have

:22:51. > :22:56.touched on all of them. I have not written a crime novel. But then I am

:22:57. > :23:02.fundamentally not interested in trying. It would feel a bit false. I

:23:03. > :23:10.think I have done what I can in all the genres that I can do things in.

:23:11. > :23:15.It is a stack of books and it is a stack of books and that is enough. I

:23:16. > :23:19.knew when I began The Book of Strange New Things it would be the

:23:20. > :23:27.last which Eva was not happy about. Then she was diagnosed with

:23:28. > :23:36.incurable cancer. That made the book are very different thing from what

:23:37. > :23:42.it looked as if it might be. It then became a book of farewell. The fact

:23:43. > :23:55.that Eva died when I finish that book, it was virtually

:23:56. > :24:05.simultaneous, it has underlined or confirmed the sense that that is the

:24:06. > :24:12.end of an era. Convinced as I was that it was going to be the last

:24:13. > :24:18.before she got sick I am even more convinced now that it will prove to

:24:19. > :24:20.have been the last novel. But there are writing projects of other kinds

:24:21. > :24:28.that I am hoping to finish. Here now to discuss some of the

:24:29. > :24:38.day's news are the journalist Ruth Let us go back to the top story on

:24:39. > :24:42.the Forth Road Bridge and all the fallout. How do you think the

:24:43. > :24:52.Government has handled this? I listened to you talking to Willie

:24:53. > :24:59.Rennie. He is right, we need to find out what might have prevented this

:25:00. > :25:06.development. But I also think that the important thing now is to get

:25:07. > :25:09.the traffic going, get the bridge mended, stop the hauliers losing

:25:10. > :25:13.that huge amount of money. In a sense the Government had no choice

:25:14. > :25:18.but to handle the weird has done. Calls on all sides for a

:25:19. > :25:22.parliamentary inquiry. Is that a good idea? Absolutely. I am a

:25:23. > :25:26.qualified engineer so I have a particular interest in this but

:25:27. > :25:30.there is a broader political impact which is the SNP have been good at

:25:31. > :25:37.giving people things for three, hoping people will never realise the

:25:38. > :25:41.cost. Scrapping the tool, reducing in 2011 the budget by 65%, if

:25:42. > :25:47.anybody thinks that has not had done impact on maintenance decisions,

:25:48. > :25:55.that might, we do not know until you have an inquiry, that might have

:25:56. > :25:58.prevented this happening. There are political implications for this.

:25:59. > :26:06.There is political pain that the SNP makes deserve to suffer as a result.

:26:07. > :26:13.We should remember that the tolls were scrapped on other bridges by

:26:14. > :26:20.previous administration. Let us move on. The BBC is under

:26:21. > :26:25.increasing pressure to drop Tyson Fury from the Sports Personality of

:26:26. > :26:30.the Year award. The SNP's culture minister has written to the BBC

:26:31. > :26:34.director general to ask for Tyson Fury to be dropped from the

:26:35. > :26:38.competition. Through his right to free speech he

:26:39. > :26:42.is entitled to any lunatic view that he wants. This is something

:26:43. > :26:47.different. The issue is not just that he is homophobic, the issue is

:26:48. > :26:52.that he is being lauded as a sports role model. That cannot be right.

:26:53. > :26:57.The police are now investigating Tyson Fury for allegations of hate

:26:58. > :27:02.crime against him. Do the BBC have any option here? We are clocking

:27:03. > :27:06.100,000 people writing in to say they do not want. Tyson Fury seems

:27:07. > :27:11.to want to become the Donald Trump petition boxing. The things he has

:27:12. > :27:16.said are way off the reader scale even for boxers. He is a misogynist,

:27:17. > :27:20.he has homophobic. If he were to win, I do not think he would, if he

:27:21. > :27:24.were to when he is not a role model you would want your kids to emulate.

:27:25. > :27:27.I do not think he would, if he were to when he is not a role model you

:27:28. > :27:33.would want your kids to emulate. Particle opportunism to have our

:27:34. > :27:36.bash at the BBC. The Sports Personality of the Year awards you

:27:37. > :27:39.get on the list based on achievement. Objectively his

:27:40. > :27:44.achievement is noteworthy. Whether he is a role model is what the

:27:45. > :27:49.public vote will sure. We can safely assume the public will not fought

:27:50. > :27:54.him as Sports Personality of the Year.

:27:55. > :27:58.I do not see it as bashing the BBC. People have seen an unsavoury set of

:27:59. > :28:05.comments made by what seems like an unsavoury manner they have reacted

:28:06. > :28:10.to it. He is the boxing champion of the world. That is a notable

:28:11. > :28:14.achievements to put you on the list. The public can then, quite

:28:15. > :28:19.rightly, say your views are poorer and, you do not get my vote. But as

:28:20. > :28:22.you from somebody else who has been causing offence, Republican

:28:23. > :28:27.presidential hopeful Donald Trump who said Muslims should be banned

:28:28. > :28:30.from entering the United States. The principle of Robert Gordon

:28:31. > :28:34.University is considering a request to strip Donald Trump office

:28:35. > :28:38.honourably degree. You have to look at areas that have

:28:39. > :28:42.become radicalised in other places. They are not the same places. They

:28:43. > :28:47.are places you do not want to go to. You do not want to take your family

:28:48. > :28:50.there. You do not want to what to the streets. Even the police do not

:28:51. > :28:56.want to what could the streets. Where is that? Paris. Look at the

:28:57. > :29:06.radicalised areas, the Muslim areas of Paris. Where? It is all over the

:29:07. > :29:13.place. It is all over the place. Take a trip to Paris and enjoy

:29:14. > :29:17.yourself. Pretty inflammatory stuff. But his survey ratings have risen.

:29:18. > :29:20.When you listen to him, every time they get asked a supplementary

:29:21. > :29:27.question he has no answer. He is a light now. It is like having the pub

:29:28. > :29:31.drunk on Question Time except that this person is sober. He is mildly

:29:32. > :29:37.insane. One of his own Republican call runners called him and henge.

:29:38. > :29:45.That is the most called into the thing you could say about him. Will

:29:46. > :29:46.this harm his campaign? I hope so. Thank you both for coming in this

:29:47. > :31:00.evening. Bullying among young Conservative

:31:01. > :31:02.campaigners. Another day, another