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:00:00. > :00:00.As BP cuts one in five North Sea jobs, does Aberdeen's oil and gas

:00:07. > :00:33.More bad news as BP cuts 600 North Sea jobs.

:00:34. > :00:35.Does this mark a tipping point for an industry already

:00:36. > :00:40.BBC Scotland is promised more control over its budget

:00:41. > :00:42.but the Scottish Culture Secretary wants to go further -

:00:43. > :00:48.And more trouble for Police Scotland, the force that

:00:49. > :00:52.broke the law, as Holyrood's justice committee go over its head to seek

:00:53. > :01:06.answers from the officers who spied on journalists' sources.

:01:07. > :01:08.The industry was braced for bad news but today's announcement by BP

:01:09. > :01:14.600 jobs, that's one in five of the company's North Sea

:01:15. > :01:18.workforce, will be out of a job, most of them by the end of the year.

:01:19. > :01:21.The company blames toughening market conditions but says it's committed

:01:22. > :01:27.With 65,000 jobs already gone, we'll consider the impact

:01:28. > :01:30.on Aberdeen and the wider Scottish economy.

:01:31. > :01:38.But first from Aberdeen here's Steven Duff.

:01:39. > :01:45.Over the past 50 years, we have grown from an office of 15 people to

:01:46. > :01:51.a regional employee base of over 4,000. BP is one of the big players

:01:52. > :01:57.in the North Sea. It was there in the beginning. Executives insist it

:01:58. > :02:04.will be there for the future. Today, workers in Aberdeen briefed on a new

:02:05. > :02:10.round of job cuts in all 600 will lose their jobs by the end of next

:02:11. > :02:17.year. BP would not speak publicly. The oil and industry body say they

:02:18. > :02:23.are having to cut their cloth because of market conditions. It is

:02:24. > :02:26.a personal shock for those involved. But it reflects the broad choice as

:02:27. > :02:31.many companies are making across the sector in response to a dramatic

:02:32. > :02:36.fall in oil price. The fall was great news if you're filling up but

:02:37. > :02:42.not if you're a company like BP trying to make a profit or even

:02:43. > :02:48.break even on a barrel of oil. The business of oil is political as well

:02:49. > :02:53.as economic. It is important to note and work in BP's continued

:02:54. > :02:58.commitment to the North Sea. BP has reiterated today its investment

:02:59. > :03:02.plans, both in capital investment and operational investment in the

:03:03. > :03:07.North Sea this year, and has said it sees a long-term future for its

:03:08. > :03:10.business in the North Sea. We've got to continue to work with the

:03:11. > :03:14.industry as the Chancellor has been doing to make the North Sea as

:03:15. > :03:20.attractive as possible to carry on investment. BP will invest $4

:03:21. > :03:23.billion this year in the North Sea. It insists it's very much part of

:03:24. > :03:24.its long-term future plans. Just before we came on air,

:03:25. > :03:40.Jake Malloy from the RMT union came If a major operator like BP is

:03:41. > :03:43.shedding one in five of its small see staff, you must be pretty

:03:44. > :03:50.concerned about the future of oil and gas. Seriously concerned. We

:03:51. > :03:59.have been concerned for over a year now. This news is devastating news.

:04:00. > :04:04.We had anticipated a degree of attrition and some cuts, but 600 has

:04:05. > :04:08.come as a serious, serious body blow. What is the impact in

:04:09. > :04:18.Aberdeen? Is there any optimism left? No, I think optimism was lost

:04:19. > :04:23.early last year when all the analysts predicted it was going to

:04:24. > :04:29.be quite a significant period, looking at two years, but whilst the

:04:30. > :04:35.optimism went, I don't think anybody was pessimistic to think that what

:04:36. > :04:41.it we are seeing would transpire. And worrying times now, given the

:04:42. > :04:44.news from BP today. What are you seeing in Aberdeen? What is the

:04:45. > :04:52.effect on businesses and people living in Aberdeen? Well, I do think

:04:53. > :05:01.it's really... Filtered through right down yet. We're seeing quite a

:05:02. > :05:09.significant difference in people being able to park cars in the

:05:10. > :05:17.street. There are some office blocks completely empty. But the knock-on

:05:18. > :05:26.effect now with the likes of BP announcing this, you're going to see

:05:27. > :05:30.hotels, taxis, bars and restaurants... It filters right out

:05:31. > :05:40.through the entire economy. The supply industry is suffering. The

:05:41. > :05:44.shipping side, helicopter traffic is affected. That will affect road

:05:45. > :05:49.transportation and everything else. Although you say you are braced for

:05:50. > :05:53.more job losses, it isn't just that, is it? Even the way people are being

:05:54. > :06:00.employed now in order to cut costs is changing. Yes, we are seeing an

:06:01. > :06:07.increase in the use of what the term ad hoc short term almost zero

:06:08. > :06:15.contract hours, which we oppose at any time, it is a wrong way and

:06:16. > :06:21.dangerous way to engage people in this industry. Now, the Scottish

:06:22. > :06:25.government has set up a task force a year ago to deal with this. I

:06:26. > :06:35.understand you are on the task force. Has it managed to save any

:06:36. > :06:40.jobs? In a word, no. The objective of the task force was to try and

:06:41. > :06:52.help people suffering as a consequence of the cuts. Ironically,

:06:53. > :06:56.we thought we had bottomed out. And the previous chief executive of BP

:06:57. > :07:00.actually sat on the group as well. The last meeting was in December. I

:07:01. > :07:04.don't know whether he was aware of the extent of the cuts that were

:07:05. > :07:09.coming with the company. But the task force were not aware of it, so

:07:10. > :07:18.it came as a shock I suspect the chair of the task force, who has

:07:19. > :07:24.done a very good job... As regards saving jobs, no, there's no way of

:07:25. > :07:29.saving any jobs at all. Do you think there is more the government,

:07:30. > :07:32.Scottish and Westminster, could be doing now to help out? I think

:07:33. > :07:36.Westminster specifically needs to get a grip on things here because

:07:37. > :07:42.this goes way beyond the issue of jobs. This is about security of

:07:43. > :07:53.supply. It is about sustaining oil production from the North Sea at a

:07:54. > :07:57.level which will prevent us importing, it'll prevent us going

:07:58. > :08:05.into decommissioning, saving the taxpayer millions, and it'll prevent

:08:06. > :08:08.cost fluctuations, and trying to get oil supply from different

:08:09. > :08:13.jurisdictions. There is a big game to play and I don't think

:08:14. > :08:16.Westminster at any stage in the last 30 years has actually taken any

:08:17. > :08:22.great interest other than to siphon off as much money as quickly as they

:08:23. > :08:24.possibly could at any given time. Thank you very much for joining us

:08:25. > :08:25.this evening. Listening to that was The Herald's

:08:26. > :08:34.business editor, Ian McConnell. Pretty gloomy stuff there from one

:08:35. > :08:40.of the unions representing the people that are going to lose their

:08:41. > :08:46.jobs. Is there any optimism? I think you're right, it is a gloomy picture

:08:47. > :08:53.with lots of job losses. Today's announcement another manifestation

:08:54. > :08:58.of that. I think in terms of room for optimism, you can look at some

:08:59. > :09:05.of the big new developments that are coming on. They've invested a lot of

:09:06. > :09:11.money already, and they've emphasise their commitment. These are projects

:09:12. > :09:21.with long lifetimes. The oil price will fluctuate, it'll go in cycles

:09:22. > :09:25.in that period. There are more mutual assets, some buyers, where

:09:26. > :09:36.players are withdrawing from the sector, and people coming in, and

:09:37. > :09:40.buying. We to maximise what is there, and the problem is that

:09:41. > :09:45.becomes more and more difficult in a low oil price environment. What

:09:46. > :09:49.about the skills lost at the moment? They will go elsewhere and find work

:09:50. > :09:54.elsewhere, so will it be easy enough when things pick up to attract them

:09:55. > :09:59.back? There is an issue around skills, being able to scale up when

:10:00. > :10:02.hopefully, the need comes around to do so. The Scottish engineering

:10:03. > :10:06.bodies highlighted the fact that a lot of people have come out of oil

:10:07. > :10:12.and gas and got into other sectors of the engineering sector. Not so

:10:13. > :10:19.long ago, the North Sea sector itself was struggling with skills.

:10:20. > :10:23.So, there is undoubtedly an issue with that. Aberdeen has a great

:10:24. > :10:29.skills base, particularly in the oil services side. The companies are

:10:30. > :10:34.cutting edge around the world. So that would be a concern. What effect

:10:35. > :10:41.is this having on the Scottish economy as a whole? I think the

:10:42. > :10:46.second-quarter growth figures for Scotland showed marginal growth,

:10:47. > :10:51.much less than what was fairly anaemic growth in the UK in all. The

:10:52. > :10:55.third quarter Scottish figures are imminent. Economists will be

:10:56. > :11:00.watching carefully to see whether that indicates it is a more

:11:01. > :11:05.permanent effect. Oil and gas is important in these surveys. We have

:11:06. > :11:11.heard that hotels restaurants and airports in Aberdeen, but there are

:11:12. > :11:15.more increasing worries that it will spread to other sectors and other

:11:16. > :11:18.parts of Scotland, as the chain effect continues. We all watch those

:11:19. > :11:20.figures with interest tomorrow when they are published. Thank you for

:11:21. > :11:22.coming in this evening. The Director General of the BBC,

:11:23. > :11:25.Tony Hall, has promised "more power" for BBC Scotland to

:11:26. > :11:27.control its future. Appearing before MSPs

:11:28. > :11:30.at Holyrood this morning, he stressed he wanted to see

:11:31. > :11:33.a vibrant BBC Scotland contributing But the Scottish government

:11:34. > :11:37.is pushing for more. In a moment I'll be speaking

:11:38. > :11:41.to the Scottish Culture Secretary, Fiona Hyslop, but first

:11:42. > :11:54.this from our political Broadcasting is always politically

:11:55. > :12:01.sensitive. In post-devolution post-referendum Scotland, that goes

:12:02. > :12:09.double. Programmes for Scotland, like River City, means jobs. But how

:12:10. > :12:12.about this? Waterloo Road, which was transferred from watched out

:12:13. > :12:18.agreement, making it a Scottish show. Critics call that lift and

:12:19. > :12:22.shift - programmes with little authentic bases in Scotland. Senior

:12:23. > :12:27.managers admit that was an issue when they gave evidence at Holyrood

:12:28. > :12:32.as part of a review of the BBC Charter. And Gordon MacDonald told

:12:33. > :12:37.them Scotland still received less investment per head than Wales and

:12:38. > :12:41.Northern Ireland. There is a shortfall of ?87 million spent in

:12:42. > :12:49.Scotland. In 2014-15, the BBC licence raised ?333 million. TV,

:12:50. > :13:00.radio and other output cost ?108.2 million. Programmes made for the

:13:01. > :13:05.network cost ?82.3 million, leaving ?132.5 million contributing to other

:13:06. > :13:09.UK programmes and services available for Scotland. The BBC managers were

:13:10. > :13:15.questioned closely on the notion of new Scottish TV and radio channels.

:13:16. > :13:18.The MSP Pramac were told those were early-stage options, later

:13:19. > :13:22.overtaken. One of the options we were looking at, in terms of whether

:13:23. > :13:29.they should be a second service on Radio Scotland, whether there was...

:13:30. > :13:33.Whether there was a balance of advantage, how do we get to the

:13:34. > :13:37.audiences, but I have to stress there were a number of options that

:13:38. > :13:42.were on the table. The convener summed up the core concern. The

:13:43. > :13:49.importance of BBC Scotland to the creative industries in Scotland, and

:13:50. > :13:54.I want if you could outline your view on the idea that they should be

:13:55. > :13:59.further devolution of the ABC to BBC Scotland. The directed general said

:14:00. > :14:02.a review of commissioning could help Scottish owners make the network,

:14:03. > :14:09.and a review of news would reflect the changing UK, and perhaps involve

:14:10. > :14:16.a Scottish six, a TV programme was Scottish, UK, and global news. I

:14:17. > :14:21.want the director for Scotland as for Wales to have more power to

:14:22. > :14:24.decide the services that the people in Scotland want for Scotland. I

:14:25. > :14:27.also want the director of Scotland to have a powerful voice in

:14:28. > :14:32.determining what the BBC does as a whole. The Culture Secretary

:14:33. > :14:40.welcomes those reviews but wanted to go further. I believe it is time for

:14:41. > :14:44.BBC Scotland to be resourced, to be bold and creative for Scotland. The

:14:45. > :14:48.Scottish government is proposing a federalised BBC that would allow BBC

:14:49. > :14:52.Scotland to control decision-making within Scotland, and I stress

:14:53. > :14:55.independent of government. There was very close questioning today but

:14:56. > :15:01.potential consensus, too. I believe the committee wants to sound a

:15:02. > :15:04.positive note urging the BBC to transfer more funding, commissioning

:15:05. > :15:09.and decision-making to Scotland. It is likely the report will be

:15:10. > :15:12.followed by a full Parliamentary debate urging the BBC to act.

:15:13. > :15:14.Here now to explain exactly what she means by empowering

:15:15. > :15:23.and resourcing BBC Scotland is Culture Secretary Fiona Hyslop.

:15:24. > :15:31.Why do you want a BBC Scotland to have a federal structure's what

:15:32. > :15:38.difference would it make? How would it improve broadcasting? We know

:15:39. > :15:43.from the BBC's order research Scottish audiences are saying they

:15:44. > :15:47.don't not see the BBC reflecting themselves as much as they could do

:15:48. > :15:51.and it is a major criticisms in relation to the news. That aside

:15:52. > :15:57.what we want to see is a greater economic impact so BBC Scotland can

:15:58. > :16:01.contribute to the creative industries in Scotland. There was a

:16:02. > :16:09.lot of agreement today. I agree we should have more power for Scotland.

:16:10. > :16:13.For a whole lot about building an online channel and certainly we need

:16:14. > :16:16.more platforms for Scottish productions. Decision-making and

:16:17. > :16:21.commissioning that currently takes place in London or Manchester should

:16:22. > :16:24.be moved in part to Scotland. We say there should be by the whole

:16:25. > :16:31.structure, others say it is about decentralisation. BBC Scotland house

:16:32. > :16:34.to play catch up to devolution in the first place but it is an

:16:35. > :16:40.important opportunity to help build companies, creativity and economic

:16:41. > :16:45.impact not just what BBC employees, Ed important as it is, but for other

:16:46. > :16:49.industries in Scotland. That is not what we're getting at the moment

:16:50. > :16:56.from BBC but we can build on that going forward. There was a dispute

:16:57. > :17:01.over figures. You said the BBC only spends ?35 million on local output

:17:02. > :17:05.in Scotland while the BBC said it is more than ?100 million. Do you

:17:06. > :17:11.accept that figure? The enquiry has now brought out these figures and I

:17:12. > :17:18.think that is very helpful. The managing director of finance for the

:17:19. > :17:21.UK BBC agreed with our figure of 35 million for an off the line original

:17:22. > :17:30.creative content for television. They agreed with our figure. What I

:17:31. > :17:35.do want... But it was 100 million, not 35 million. She said, in the

:17:36. > :17:42.official report that she agreed with our figures of 35 million. She

:17:43. > :17:50.talked about 74 million and terms of costs. That is overheads, outside

:17:51. > :17:57.broadcast right, not original content. I was very pleased we got

:17:58. > :18:05.an admission and in agreement from the BBC that 4300 ?23 million of

:18:06. > :18:17.licence fee payment from Scotland small amount is spent original

:18:18. > :18:22.content. It should be Scottish jobs and the long-term. You would like to

:18:23. > :18:28.see all that ?323 million raised in Scotland spent Scotland? Indeed. How

:18:29. > :18:34.much would you spend on network programmes that people you love like

:18:35. > :18:38.Doctor Who, strictly come dancing. Of course we can get these shores as

:18:39. > :18:47.other countries do. How much would that cost? Bear in mind, the

:18:48. > :18:52.managing director of finance for the BBC says there is a bit 200 million

:18:53. > :18:59.of that 323 million is supporting the BBC network. Let's look at the

:19:00. > :19:04.economic and creative impact. There is a consensus across Scotland

:19:05. > :19:15.around this. All the events we have been hosting. The committee chaired

:19:16. > :19:21.by a Conservative MSP agrees with this assessment. For what we provide

:19:22. > :19:26.we should be getting better quality in terms of the sustainable and

:19:27. > :19:32.creative content. Question Time is a very important short for the BBC but

:19:33. > :19:36.I don't think it's a lot Scotland. Is there any evidence of a Scottish

:19:37. > :19:45.audience wants to see a radically different programming? Apart from

:19:46. > :19:48.news and current affairs? Less than 50% of people in Scotland are

:19:49. > :19:56.satisfied with news and current affairs. I was encouraged and I

:19:57. > :20:03.think Tony Hall was listening and has been listening but we need to

:20:04. > :20:05.trust their decision making and commissioning and editorial control,

:20:06. > :20:07.moving in that direction I think we can work with him to move them even

:20:08. > :20:12.further. Thanks for coming in. Now, more controversy

:20:13. > :20:16.for Police Scotland. Holyrood's justice committee says it

:20:17. > :20:19.will bypass them and directly invite four police officers

:20:20. > :20:21.to give evidence. The officers were named

:20:22. > :20:23.by a Deputy Chief Constable during an investigation into police

:20:24. > :20:25.spying on journalists' sources. But the force has blocked

:20:26. > :20:28.the officers from explaining As Huw Williams reports,

:20:29. > :20:32.the issue emerged because of leaks claiming were flaws

:20:33. > :20:45.in a murder investigation. Another justice committee meeting

:20:46. > :20:52.and another senior policeman giving evidence. But not the four officers

:20:53. > :20:56.MSPs want to question. Can I express the disappointment of this committee

:20:57. > :21:00.that the four opposite the invited to come before us today we are

:21:01. > :21:05.prevented from doing so and pull the Scotland would not pass the

:21:06. > :21:08.invitation to those officers. The officers were named by Police

:21:09. > :21:12.Scotland at a hearing before Christmas. It's worth reminding

:21:13. > :21:18.ourselves that Emma Caldwell was murdered nearly 11 years ago but not

:21:19. > :21:22.one has been convicted. Last April the Sunday mail ran a story naming a

:21:23. > :21:27.suspect in highlighting what it said were shortcomings with the police

:21:28. > :21:32.investigation. Weeks later the Lord Advocate asked for more resources

:21:33. > :21:37.for the murder enquiry. We know the police broke the law try to find out

:21:38. > :21:41.where reporters were getting their information from without getting

:21:42. > :21:44.authorisation from a judge. The paper's editor said officers should

:21:45. > :21:51.instead focus on problems with the initial murder enquiry. Journalists

:21:52. > :21:55.are very protective of our sources and concerned when we discover

:21:56. > :22:02.please have spent time and resources trying to discover sources. --

:22:03. > :22:06.police have spent time. This is ultimately about the death of a

:22:07. > :22:11.young woman ten years ago and the need to find justice for heart and

:22:12. > :22:16.her family. Today concerned about police priorities were aired in

:22:17. > :22:19.Parliament. Rather than back to look at the investigation, the emphasis

:22:20. > :22:23.then moved on to looking at the source, rather than taking the job

:22:24. > :22:28.mean a point that there may have been something not quite right or

:22:29. > :22:34.something that could have been improved on with the original

:22:35. > :22:39.investigation. It is not mutually exclusive. What we're doing is both.

:22:40. > :22:42.There has been a lengthy exchange of letters between the comedy and

:22:43. > :22:51.Police Scotland, while the ward a white billboard, before officers to

:22:52. > :22:57.explain what happened and why. -- the four officers to explain what

:22:58. > :23:02.happened. We have taken legal advice on it and give individuals here at

:23:03. > :23:06.the heart of our response in terms of serious organised crime and

:23:07. > :23:12.serious criminality. Obviously their names have already been published

:23:13. > :23:16.but what we don't want to have is the identity is out there so people

:23:17. > :23:20.know who they are and then addresses and the risks are two reasons.

:23:21. > :23:26.Despite that the committee seems determined to hear from the four. We

:23:27. > :23:31.have decided to issue an invitation personally to each of the officers.

:23:32. > :23:36.They obviously do not have to accept and we will not compel them but

:23:37. > :23:40.should they wish to, accompanied by a member of the staff association

:23:41. > :23:47.and put forward their side of the story. The investigation into Police

:23:48. > :23:52.Scotland's culture and processes continues but there is something

:23:53. > :23:55.even more important than that. I hope justice is eventually delivered

:23:56. > :24:01.for the victim and the family. It appears both Scotland were more

:24:02. > :24:04.interested in who have been talking to journalists are investigating why

:24:05. > :24:06.they did not investigate the murder properly.

:24:07. > :24:10.Joining me now to talk about this and some of today's other news

:24:11. > :24:12.are Cat Boyd, whose standing for the RISE political alliance

:24:13. > :24:15.at the Scottish Elections and Andy MacIver, PR guru and former

:24:16. > :24:18.director of communications for the Scottish Conservatives.

:24:19. > :24:28.Welcome to you both. Let's start with that story, full stop, what do

:24:29. > :24:33.you think of the police's priorities? It is very worrying, but

:24:34. > :24:38.let's be honest, it is the latest in a long line of scandals for Police

:24:39. > :24:43.Scotland which I think is a direct consequence of centralisation of the

:24:44. > :24:46.police force. We have a armed police on the streets, stop and search of

:24:47. > :24:54.children, death in custody and now this. The truth of the matter is

:24:55. > :25:01.this will continue until there is reform of Police Scotland. I really

:25:02. > :25:04.hope our politicians will break up to the fact this will continue

:25:05. > :25:10.unless something changes. What about over a six-year? Does this not you

:25:11. > :25:18.have built your confidence? -- what about oversight? Cap is right to

:25:19. > :25:22.mention the other issues are likely Scotland but I think this is the

:25:23. > :25:27.most serious one as it indicates something potentially more sinister.

:25:28. > :25:32.This is a clear piece of legislation they have breached, it is so obvious

:25:33. > :25:36.what the intention is that you can't spy on journalists and it is such a

:25:37. > :25:42.basic tenet of a free media and free press that you cannot do this. It is

:25:43. > :25:47.a black and white issue and I think it is quite worrying they have

:25:48. > :25:51.crossed that line because the legislation was extremely clear and

:25:52. > :25:54.it is difficult to see how you can swallow an explanation that they

:25:55. > :25:59.just made a mistake, which is effectively what they said today.

:26:00. > :26:08.How the chemistry do think the posting of Scotland will be an the

:26:09. > :26:12.elections in May? I think it is huge. We have seen the replacement

:26:13. > :26:16.of Stephen APPLAUSE House and another officer who comes

:26:17. > :26:28.from the Met background. -- Stephen house. I think this is an

:26:29. > :26:33.issue that really matters to people and I can see any reform. It brings

:26:34. > :26:39.up the age old question of who watches the watchers? At the police

:26:40. > :26:44.are supposed to be watching Society and who watches the police? We have

:26:45. > :26:48.seen today in Parliament a senior police officer has taken the place

:26:49. > :26:53.of four officers who have broken the law. If it was URI who had committed

:26:54. > :26:59.a crime we would be expected to stand there. -- you or I. If the

:27:00. > :27:05.Scottish Government Scottish parliament can't get answers from

:27:06. > :27:10.the police but how do the families of Emma Caldwell get answers? It is

:27:11. > :27:16.a real concern for the majority of people will stop someone else who

:27:17. > :27:19.MSPs was looking for answers from was Tory hole. They said in light of

:27:20. > :27:31.increased devolution it was time to make changes. -- Pawnee halt. Andy,

:27:32. > :27:36.-- Pawnee hole. How do the rebuild trust in Scotland? Wrigley to

:27:37. > :27:47.separate the wheat post-referendum and pre-referendum environment. The

:27:48. > :27:53.has been going about for a while and what we have to accept, in my view,

:27:54. > :27:56.is we should start from the point of understanding most people in

:27:57. > :28:01.Scotland get their news from the BBC so we are very narrow in that sense.

:28:02. > :28:06.Most other countries have a wider variety of news sources. And very in

:28:07. > :28:14.favour of hyper localisation of broadcasting. STV Edinburgh and

:28:15. > :28:18.Glasgow have been good initiatives. I'm not convinced the BBC is the

:28:19. > :28:25.best and be able to deliver local news. I think the delivery of local

:28:26. > :28:34.news for example through BBC .co .uk has had a negative impact on local

:28:35. > :28:38.press. I do think you will get a different political viewpoint. My

:28:39. > :28:45.own viewpoint is that for as long as we're part of the UK, and that may

:28:46. > :28:50.be a long time not, I think it is reasonable to have national, UK and

:28:51. > :28:53.international news delivered throughout the UK and Scottish news

:28:54. > :29:00.delivered as it is right now. It is not a big deal for me, personally.

:29:01. > :29:07.Where is the money coming from? The BBC had an ex ?750 million worth of

:29:08. > :29:11.cuts. I am massively in favour of a public broadcaster but I don't think

:29:12. > :29:17.the BBC is beyond reform. I am glad we're talking about the Scottish

:29:18. > :29:23.news at six. There was also discussion of the potential online

:29:24. > :29:33.for Scotland. It has its pros and cons. There is the opportunity for

:29:34. > :29:39.BBC Scotland to do something like Netflix which is producing bribing

:29:40. > :29:48.documentaries. We are too narrow in whom we get, use from. We need a

:29:49. > :29:52.public broadcaster who can question Scottish politics and institutions.

:29:53. > :29:54.We have relieved that. That's it for tonight. I'm back tomorrow night see

:29:55. > :30:00.you then.