:00:00. > :00:00.No deal for junior doctors means another strike tomorrow in England,
:00:00. > :00:25.as the Scottish Government says "come and work here."
:00:26. > :00:30.Another strike by junior doctors will go ahead tomorrow,
:00:31. > :00:36.We ask a Scot working in England and an English doctor
:00:37. > :00:42.The rift grows between Westminster and the devolved parliaments
:00:43. > :00:45.about the timing of the EU referendum.
:00:46. > :00:48.And living with HIV - two young men tell me
:00:49. > :00:59.about the stigma and the cost of keeping well.
:01:00. > :01:02.Last ditch talks have failed to avert a second day of strike
:01:03. > :01:07.The British Medical Association has accused the Health Secretary Jeremy
:01:08. > :01:14.He urged them to put patients' interests first.
:01:15. > :01:17.As the war of words continues, the Scottish Government is -
:01:18. > :01:20.some say rather cheekily, given the timing -
:01:21. > :01:23.trying to lure disgruntled junior doctors to Scotland with the promise
:01:24. > :01:29.In a moment, we'll be speaking to a couple of junior doctors,
:01:30. > :01:41.I was a junior doctor myself in Scotland and benefited from the
:01:42. > :01:46.fantastic training that Scotland Office. Are you a junior doctor in
:01:47. > :01:51.England? Are you fed up of the working conditions? Then Scotland
:01:52. > :02:00.wants you. That's the message in this new Scottish Government
:02:01. > :02:05.promotional film. You can understand the strategy. Right now, ministers
:02:06. > :02:09.and junior doctors are locked in a bitter dispute over the prospect of
:02:10. > :02:14.a new contract in England. The UK Government says the current deal,
:02:15. > :02:19.dating back to the 1990s, is outdated. Junior doctors leaders say
:02:20. > :02:25.the changes will see in on fair pay and working conditions and tomorrow
:02:26. > :02:30.at 8am will stage their second 24-hour walk-out. The last thing we
:02:31. > :02:33.want to do is industrial action. We offered the government constructive
:02:34. > :02:37.talks in December, they turned it down. They finally accepted it, we
:02:38. > :02:40.pulled out of industrial action in December because wanted to find a
:02:41. > :02:44.negotiated settlement. The government keeps pushing us each
:02:45. > :02:48.step of the way to try to impose a contract that is fundamentally
:02:49. > :02:51.unfair and unsafe. Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is under pressure from
:02:52. > :02:59.the doctors union over the new contract. Questions to the Secretary
:03:00. > :03:03.of State for Health. Today in the Commons, with Labour seeking to
:03:04. > :03:08.increase that pressure, he stood firm. The party opposite are saying
:03:09. > :03:11.that if a negotiated settlement can't be reached, we should not
:03:12. > :03:15.impose a new contract. In other words, we should give up on seven
:03:16. > :03:19.day care for the most vulnerable patients. There was a time when the
:03:20. > :03:23.Labour Party used to speak up for vulnerable patients, but now it is
:03:24. > :03:29.clear that unions matter more than patients. In Scotland, the NHS says
:03:30. > :03:32.it is sticking with its existing contract and in the process is
:03:33. > :03:39.hoping to tempt junior doctors in England north of the border. Save
:03:40. > :03:43.our NHS. Meanwhile, south of the border, the government is preparing
:03:44. > :03:46.for more scenes like this. Thousands of routine operations have already
:03:47. > :03:48.been cancelled. It is clear this dispute is far from over.
:03:49. > :03:51.A short while ago I spoke to two junior doctors working north
:03:52. > :03:54.From our Cambridge studio, Harry Leitch, and from
:03:55. > :04:10.Harry in Cambridge, the strike will go ahead now, as plans tomorrow. Is
:04:11. > :04:15.it the right thing to do? I certainly am supportive of the
:04:16. > :04:22.strike. As far as I understand, they have tried as hard as they can at
:04:23. > :04:27.the negotiating table and I am fully supportive of what the BMA are
:04:28. > :04:32.doing. I am not a BMA member myself, it is simply my opinion. I am
:04:33. > :04:35.certainly supportive. The main sticking point between these
:04:36. > :04:39.negotiations seem to be weekend working. Doesn't the Health
:04:40. > :04:43.Secretary in England have a point, that if patient safety is at risk
:04:44. > :04:49.here, he should really be firm on this? I think it is a very
:04:50. > :04:54.conjugated issue. I am working on a rotor at the moment where I work ten
:04:55. > :04:58.out of 17 weekends. As has been reiterated many times by my
:04:59. > :05:04.colleagues, we already work at the weekend. There is lots different
:05:05. > :05:08.about hospitals at weekend, including porters, receptionists,
:05:09. > :05:12.nursing staff, physios, social care. It is not just a simple fact of
:05:13. > :05:15.forcing more doctors into the hospital at the weekends. I think
:05:16. > :05:20.the other major point is that if you want to have more doctors at the
:05:21. > :05:23.weekends, we need more doctors. I find it really hard to understand
:05:24. > :05:30.how the Health Secretary thinks that he can have more hours worked by
:05:31. > :05:33.more doctors without any increase in the total pay packet, because
:05:34. > :05:38.presumably more people must cover those hours, unless we are all going
:05:39. > :05:42.to work much harder. Mark in Edinburgh, there is no strike
:05:43. > :05:45.tomorrow in Scotland. Why not, what is different? The key difference is
:05:46. > :05:48.we are not being faced with this imposition of a new contract. The
:05:49. > :05:54.Scottish Government for very sensible reasons are taking a step
:05:55. > :05:58.back and waiting. We don't have to face this difficult decision, which
:05:59. > :06:01.I have to say, personally, I fully support my colleagues down South who
:06:02. > :06:05.are taking the step to strike and I am sure the vast, vast majority are
:06:06. > :06:09.taking it with a very heavy heart. Maybe the First Minister should be
:06:10. > :06:14.pushing for these sort of reforms. Maybe it is delayed until after the
:06:15. > :06:23.election. Perhaps. Perhaps I'm being naive there. I like to think I am
:06:24. > :06:25.not, I like to think the Scottish Government, who historically have
:06:26. > :06:27.had some trouble recruiting and training doctors, I thinking this is
:06:28. > :06:32.a good opportunity to draw a line in the sand and take advantage of not
:06:33. > :06:37.devolved issue and try to encourage more doctors to stay here ought to
:06:38. > :06:42.come and work here. Harry, if you are a clinical junior doctor, might
:06:43. > :06:45.you be tempted north by the government's new recruitment
:06:46. > :06:49.campaign? As you pointed out, I am an academic trainee, but that means
:06:50. > :06:53.I do clinical work, as well. Yes, I think I have spoken to a number of
:06:54. > :06:56.my colleagues at the last few months, and I know a lot of them
:06:57. > :06:59.already have but Scotland up their list of preferences. There is lots
:07:00. > :07:05.of great hospitals, great medical schools, our lot of great medical
:07:06. > :07:09.history north of the border and a lot of people are voting with their
:07:10. > :07:13.feet. You think it might have an impact? I think it is possible. We
:07:14. > :07:16.will wait to see. People are applying for jobs and we will wait
:07:17. > :07:19.to see if Scotland gets more than it's their share. From what I have
:07:20. > :07:22.heard, the total number of applications are down, but I don't
:07:23. > :07:28.know if the proportions of Scotland have gone up. From the friends I
:07:29. > :07:31.have canvassed and things I have heard on the wards, a lot of people
:07:32. > :07:34.are looking to Scotland as a really good option. If you watch the
:07:35. > :07:40.Scottish Government video, it sounds idyllic year, Mark. Fantastic
:07:41. > :07:44.training, great training opportunities, good worklife
:07:45. > :07:47.balance. Don't they have right here? It is not a bed of roses, we are
:07:48. > :07:51.faced with similar challenges to those south of the border. Health
:07:52. > :07:55.care is under pressure. Expectations are rising, the population is
:07:56. > :07:59.ageing. I cannot pretend it is completely amazing and we don't face
:08:00. > :08:03.those problems here. However, I have watched that recruitment video and I
:08:04. > :08:07.agree with lots of it. I am a Londoner who has moved north in
:08:08. > :08:11.response to the opportunity to study appear and have an excellent
:08:12. > :08:15.training programme, excellent research. I am also an academic
:08:16. > :08:21.trainee and what I view as probably a better quality of life. Is it more
:08:22. > :08:24.collaborative? As the Chief Medical Officer says, is very different
:08:25. > :08:30.ethos to what you find working in England? I think perhaps the feeling
:08:31. > :08:34.that what you say is heard more readily here. It is partly because
:08:35. > :08:38.we are a small country, partly because working in the capital in
:08:39. > :08:43.Edinburgh. I have always felt training here that my voice is heard
:08:44. > :08:46.more readily than it was down south. I think the pressures are greater
:08:47. > :08:51.down south. Relatively, we are better resourced here. We still have
:08:52. > :08:54.problems. But certainly having worked in London and Edinburgh, I
:08:55. > :08:58.feel that the quality of training and the quality of health care that
:08:59. > :09:03.we deliver probably is better up here. Harry, what do you think about
:09:04. > :09:10.the tone of this dispute between doctors and the government in
:09:11. > :09:16.England? I think it has obviously got to be a pretty bitter battle. I
:09:17. > :09:22.think one of the things that comes out of the Scottish Government
:09:23. > :09:25.announcement is the word valued. I think and speak on behalf of a lot
:09:26. > :09:30.of trainees, we all feel not very valued at all by the government down
:09:31. > :09:36.south. At the moment, it is just words coming from Scotland. We would
:09:37. > :09:40.like to see what extra benefits they will have in terms of all the issues
:09:41. > :09:45.that come into play with the junior doctor contract. At the very least,
:09:46. > :09:49.at least they are speaking positively and making doctors feel
:09:50. > :09:54.valued. All of us very much don't feel that way south of the border.
:09:55. > :09:59.If Jeremy Hunt's plans do go ahead, hospital doctors in different parts
:10:00. > :10:06.of the UK will, for the first time, have noticeably different contracts.
:10:07. > :10:10.Does that concern either of you? It is an international markets more and
:10:11. > :10:15.more for doctors. It will be new for the UK, but not for medicine
:10:16. > :10:24.worldwide. If anything, the situation may be a help temporarily
:10:25. > :10:27.for recruitment this year. I hope for the sake of my colleagues down
:10:28. > :10:32.south that this is sorted out and we don't have disparity across the
:10:33. > :10:36.board. Harry, does it concern you? It will be interesting to see what
:10:37. > :10:39.happens. Hopefully, we will sort things out south of the border, and
:10:40. > :10:42.then hopefully the Scottish Government will be in a strong
:10:43. > :10:47.position to learn the lessons of a new contract if and when it comes
:10:48. > :10:51.out. At the end of the day, we just want a fair contract that is safe
:10:52. > :10:56.and hopefully both sides of the border it will be easy to do. OK.
:10:57. > :10:58.Harry, mod, thank you very much for joining me.
:10:59. > :11:00.The date for the referendum on the UK's membership
:11:01. > :11:02.of the European Union hasn't yet been set.
:11:03. > :11:05.But there have been weeks of argument about whether a June
:11:06. > :11:08.referendum would be too close to May elections in Scotland and other
:11:09. > :11:15.Opposition parties including the SNP - who want a vote later in the year
:11:16. > :11:19.- called for more respect for devolved parliaments.
:11:20. > :11:27.Our Westminster correspondent, Nick Eardley, has more.
:11:28. > :11:32.Almost everyone you speak to at Westminster is preparing for the
:11:33. > :11:35.23rd of June as the date for the referendum, but it is opposed by
:11:36. > :11:39.number of parties, including the SNP. Today the Democratic Unionist
:11:40. > :11:44.party brought a motion to the Commons, saying that a June
:11:45. > :11:48.referendum should be ruled out. We need to ensure the government
:11:49. > :11:52.respects the devolved administrations in Northern Ireland,
:11:53. > :11:57.Scotland and Wales on an issue of such import. We must put the
:11:58. > :12:00.national interest above every other consideration. We must respect the
:12:01. > :12:04.rights of the people who go to the polls in May. We must allow for the
:12:05. > :12:08.fullest possible debate on the biggest decision to be made by this
:12:09. > :12:17.country for generations. Another issue that came up was what is known
:12:18. > :12:22.as purder. That is the period before elections where the parties avoid
:12:23. > :12:27.making major announcements. The three Administration 's will be in
:12:28. > :12:30.purder if it is on June 23 for ten out of 13 weeks. I don't know if all
:12:31. > :12:35.the members opposite have considered that. This is an issue that causes
:12:36. > :12:39.some anger in the devolved governments across the UK. The clear
:12:40. > :12:45.choice NICOLA Sturgeon with her counterparts but to her counterparts
:12:46. > :12:50.calling for a referendum to be ruled out until sometime later in 2016.
:12:51. > :12:55.Despite that anger, the government seems fairly clear that a six-week
:12:56. > :13:00.period after the 5th of May in the elections would be enough. The IT is
:13:01. > :13:04.perfectly feasible to have an overlap providing you accept you
:13:05. > :13:09.have a six week gap as a minimum between two polls. I would remind
:13:10. > :13:15.the house that the six week gap is the full length of a general
:13:16. > :13:20.election campaign. We decide on the basis of a six-week campaign. Labour
:13:21. > :13:26.indicated again today that they would support an early referendum.
:13:27. > :13:29.Despite the anger, that may cause, if David Cameron wants a referendum
:13:30. > :13:29.on the 23rd of June, he will almost certainly get it.
:13:30. > :13:33.One person a day is diagnosed with HIV in Scotland.
:13:34. > :13:36.It's thought hundreds more go undiagnosed.
:13:37. > :13:39.New medicines mean you can live a fairly normal life with the virus,
:13:40. > :13:43.but the cost means that not everyone globally has access to them.
:13:44. > :13:46.A group of young people living with HIV are touring the UK,
:13:47. > :13:48.talking about their campaign to bring affordable
:13:49. > :13:53.Earlier I caught up with two of them - 22-year-old Brian from Uganda
:13:54. > :14:14.Tell me, Robbie, while arguing this? What drew me in was the missing
:14:15. > :14:18.medicine campaign. It is really important because I only have access
:14:19. > :14:21.to this different kind of medication because of the country I was born in
:14:22. > :14:28.butterfly was born somewhere like Uganda, they will probably only get
:14:29. > :14:35.one type of treatment, if they are lucky. If that doesn't work, because
:14:36. > :14:43.they might be intolerable to the side effects, they might get a
:14:44. > :14:52.second option. In Ireland's, HIV is so silent, it is so shamed. Is there
:14:53. > :14:56.still a taboo? Massively! There are still people I talked to on a daily
:14:57. > :15:01.basis you can tell their parents, their friends. You can imagine how
:15:02. > :15:07.hard that with me. Obviously issues with relationships. It is all down
:15:08. > :15:12.to ignorance. In first world countries we have these medications,
:15:13. > :15:17.we now have tools. If you are undetectable, if you have low virus
:15:18. > :15:22.in your system or it is dormant, study show that you are not
:15:23. > :15:27.infectious any more. It is almost down to zero. We have these tools we
:15:28. > :15:32.don't have to live in a society where there is stigma against HIV.
:15:33. > :15:41.What was it like when you were diagnosed, was of a shock to you?
:15:42. > :15:45.Massive shock. For two reasons. First, my childhood dream was to
:15:46. > :15:51.work with animals in Australia. I studied zoology for four years. I
:15:52. > :15:56.was saving up to go with my friends. I did my first-ever sexual health
:15:57. > :16:01.check and they called me back in. The first thing I asked was, can go
:16:02. > :16:06.to Australia? Although we could go to Australia for a -year-old to I
:16:07. > :16:10.could not get residents because I was HIV positive. So, everything I
:16:11. > :16:18.had for my whole life, it was shattered them in the second of my
:16:19. > :16:25.diagnosis. It had hard. Secondly, my health. Am I going to survive? HIV
:16:26. > :16:29.is synonymous with AIDS. You always think of an ill, dying person. I
:16:30. > :16:39.didn't know anyone living with HIV and Ireland. I could not believe it
:16:40. > :16:44.was happening. I had me want to go to. Even just through the silence,
:16:45. > :16:49.that was the most difficult. Bringing back by one to do the tour,
:16:50. > :16:54.it is to create visibility in the UK. People don't even know the
:16:55. > :17:01.basics. They don't know the difference between HIV and AIDS. I
:17:02. > :17:06.didn't. We want to be in their face so they don't have to go looking for
:17:07. > :17:10.it. We want to give them the good information, the right information.
:17:11. > :17:14.We want to say, you are healthy. You can live a normal, healthy life and
:17:15. > :17:20.you shouldn't have to live a life with stigma. I wish I was told that.
:17:21. > :17:35.When I was told I was HIV positive, I kind of laugh. I thought being HIV
:17:36. > :17:42.positive, it meant something good, positive men did. He didn't realise
:17:43. > :17:49.what it meant? At the time I didn't. When I laughed, I saw that the
:17:50. > :17:59.councillors were looking at me concerned. They realise maybe
:18:00. > :18:09.something was wrong. When they explain to me, that this is when
:18:10. > :18:15.they realised, maybe it is over for me. Is there stigma in Uganda about
:18:16. > :18:23.being HIV positive? Yes, very much in Uganda, to the extent that in
:18:24. > :18:31.Uganda families break up over it. They think it is contagious, so they
:18:32. > :18:39.can't allow you to share with other children, with other members of the
:18:40. > :18:48.family, the community. People rarely talk about being HIV positive in my
:18:49. > :18:52.country. Obviously, the medicines here are much greater. Are you
:18:53. > :18:57.surprised that people are still dying with HIV in this country? That
:18:58. > :19:05.people still get diagnosed very late. Access to medication is high,
:19:06. > :19:10.so yes. This comes back to the stigma around sex in general. People
:19:11. > :19:19.are scared to go to get sexual health checks. It is a frightening
:19:20. > :19:24.thing, almost ignorance is bliss. It is still a hot topic. The need to
:19:25. > :19:31.have sustainable and consistent policies to put in place to combat
:19:32. > :19:37.HIV. We have the medication to stop AIDS, to stop new HIV instances,
:19:38. > :19:42.AIDS-related deaths and we should utilise it because we don't
:19:43. > :19:50.understand the drug market at the moment. I find that inspiring young
:19:51. > :19:58.people to talk in general that this is a real issue, and other issues
:19:59. > :20:04.such as TB or breast cancer drugs, which affects the UK as well. I
:20:05. > :20:07.could be dead if I was born in a different country. It brings to
:20:08. > :20:12.light what we need to do, to have these conversations. Thank you for
:20:13. > :20:13.coming in and telling me your stories today.
:20:14. > :20:17.The Youth Stop Aids speaker tour will be in Scotland until Friday.
:20:18. > :20:19.Scotland remains a world leader in scientific research,
:20:20. > :20:20.according to Edinburgh's International Science Festival
:20:21. > :20:23.which boasts leaders in the fields of climate change,
:20:24. > :20:25.cloning and astronomy at the top of this year's bill.
:20:26. > :20:27.Its theme, 'Building Better Worlds'', focuses on how science,
:20:28. > :20:30.technology and engineering can transform the world and the way
:20:31. > :20:45.Morag Kinniburgh has been along for a closer look.
:20:46. > :20:53.Popular science aplenty, there is an interactive exploration of why human
:20:54. > :20:56.stance. There is serious debate heading for Edinburgh this Easter
:20:57. > :21:00.fortnight with leaders in the field of climate change, cloning and
:21:01. > :21:05.astrophysics coming. The festival organisers argue that Scotland leads
:21:06. > :21:08.the world in all kinds of science. Scotland punches well above its
:21:09. > :21:12.weight in terms of research output. There is a creative and innovative
:21:13. > :21:19.spirit but still inhabits the country as a whole. A great tech
:21:20. > :21:21.start-up sector in Edinburgh, Glasgow was strong in its arts and
:21:22. > :21:27.some strong research strands across the country. Experiments designed to
:21:28. > :21:31.entice people into a world of questions and reasons. The science
:21:32. > :21:36.festival promotes global debate, too, and this first of the big 12
:21:37. > :21:40.annual festival see it brings on benefits. We look at it as an
:21:41. > :21:44.investment on several levels. The international profile of the city,
:21:45. > :21:49.promoting the best of Edinburgh and Scotland abroad. But also the
:21:50. > :21:57.wonderful educational benefits that the festival brings. Fund used to
:21:58. > :22:02.inspire innovation at every stage. It is great to have people think
:22:03. > :22:08.about a serious topic and do something with it. This is
:22:09. > :22:14.sensational science but on the more serious stuff, the festival insists
:22:15. > :22:19.it is neutral on scientific advance, providing a platform for debate on
:22:20. > :22:20.concerns as well as hopes for the future.
:22:21. > :22:24.Joining me now to discuss some of the day's other news are a couple
:22:25. > :22:27.of bloggers - businessman Kevin Hague and Law lecturer Andrew
:22:28. > :22:41.Today is the day the councils to decide on whether they would
:22:42. > :22:45.continue the council tax freeze. Glasgow, Stirling, they are saying
:22:46. > :22:56.they are going to reluctantly accept the deal. Accumulation of penalties
:22:57. > :22:59.that the Deputy First Minister has introduced mean it is just too
:23:00. > :23:05.expensive to think about raising council tax by anything that would
:23:06. > :23:10.be electorally or publicly acceptable. Every council not run by
:23:11. > :23:15.the SNP have criticised the deal. How do you think the public will see
:23:16. > :23:19.it, Andrew? I am not sure. It depends whether people see an impact
:23:20. > :23:24.on their services or not. It is not obvious to me how many parts of the
:23:25. > :23:27.public will feel bad. Looking at how the public experience their services
:23:28. > :23:32.in Scotland it is a less bleak picture than is often depict did.
:23:33. > :23:35.The only these things are unpredictable. You might not see it
:23:36. > :23:42.in time for the Holyrood elections. That is quite unlikely. This could
:23:43. > :23:46.be 2017 in the council elections, and by then the cuts will have taken
:23:47. > :23:55.place. A few were cynical you might say that would work with the SNP.
:23:56. > :24:01.There was of any proposed on income tax to offset the proposed spending
:24:02. > :24:04.cuts. Could there be SNP voters out there silently scratching their
:24:05. > :24:08.heads and wondering where the SNP has not come without? It would be
:24:09. > :24:12.strange if there was. We have had a couple of years being told how
:24:13. > :24:17.terrible the cuts are, these offal Conservative cuts are affecting life
:24:18. > :24:21.in Scotland, and then we have a chance to do something about it with
:24:22. > :24:25.the Scottish rate of income tax, particularly at a time of the SNP
:24:26. > :24:29.are passing on tax cuts from the Conservative government, the
:24:30. > :24:34.personal alliance and income tax threshold is being raised, means we
:24:35. > :24:38.are getting tax cuts and public spending cuts. Surely some of those
:24:39. > :24:43.SNP supporters must be saying, isn't there another way? Do we need a tax
:24:44. > :24:48.cut when we are seeing the reality of what that translates in terms of
:24:49. > :24:51.spending cuts? It is strange. Our councils being asked to shoulder a
:24:52. > :24:57.disproportionate amount of the spending cuts? Someone is going to
:24:58. > :25:04.have two. There is no way to avoid that. It is always inevitable that
:25:05. > :25:09.somebody would have to do it. It is pretty obvious that it would be
:25:10. > :25:13.difficult for any political party to knock on the door of any individual
:25:14. > :25:21.in Scotland who is earning ?15,000 a year and say I want to put tax up. I
:25:22. > :25:30.think the tax powers are pretty blunt. Kevin is right in the longer
:25:31. > :25:34.run. In 2017 on current estimates, assuming the Scotland Bill passes,
:25:35. > :25:42.then we will have questions. Moving on your special subject, Kevin, the
:25:43. > :25:45.fiscal framework. The UK Government and Scottish Government are locked
:25:46. > :25:49.in negotiations over the Scotland Bill. Nicola Sturgeon has written to
:25:50. > :25:52.David Cameron to say she is fully committed to reaching a deal but she
:25:53. > :25:56.is also clear that an agreement will only be possible if we have a shared
:25:57. > :26:04.understanding of the known detriment principles. Is it possible to design
:26:05. > :26:10.a framework that act Chile -- actually does not badly affect
:26:11. > :26:15.Scotland or England. The Institute for Fiscal Studies say no, it is
:26:16. > :26:20.impossible to satisfy no detriment and fairness. The issue is how you
:26:21. > :26:24.interpret no detriment. One is no detriment when the powers are
:26:25. > :26:28.transpired. That is pretty easy, you just adjust the block grant
:26:29. > :26:32.proportionally. Number two is no detriment to the use of the powers
:26:33. > :26:37.impacting the other country. There are some tricky example seven you
:26:38. > :26:41.can deal with them. The third is implicit in the position of Nicola
:26:42. > :26:46.Sturgeon which to see detriment from the loss of Barnet itself. The
:26:47. > :26:52.problem with that is that Barnett is unfair in favour of Scotland as the
:26:53. > :26:56.dynamics work at the moment. The reason is as long as Scotland's
:26:57. > :27:01.population growth is slower than the rest of the UK we benefit from
:27:02. > :27:06.Barnet. If the Scottish population does not grow but the UK's does,
:27:07. > :27:11.there are spent goes up, we get the share of that the Norsemen grows up.
:27:12. > :27:15.We get an increase in per capita spending on the rest of the UK
:27:16. > :27:20.doesn't. That is locked into Barnet at the moment. If you take that
:27:21. > :27:24.await you take away that benefit. So she is right to say that any
:27:25. > :27:29.solution that involves devolving powers will not benefit Scotland
:27:30. > :27:33.because Barnet locks in an advantage for Scotland that some of the spent
:27:34. > :27:40.quite a lot of time arguing in favour of. Will the deal be reached
:27:41. > :27:43.before the election? I don't know. Difficult to say. It looks that the
:27:44. > :27:47.Scotland Bill is something that everybody is in favour of, that the
:27:48. > :27:53.Scottish parliament will vote in favour of. It looks a bit shakier
:27:54. > :27:57.than it did a few weeks ago. God knows what the political
:27:58. > :28:00.consequences are of that. But this, the Prime Minister would read Nicola
:28:01. > :28:03.Sturgeon's letter with interest and it is probably in both of their
:28:04. > :28:14.interest to come kind of negotiated terms. Hollywood's Justice committee
:28:15. > :28:19.has said that the not proven verdict might not serve any useful purpose.
:28:20. > :28:28.Is it on borrowed time? We have a presumption of innocence in this
:28:29. > :28:34.country. How does not proven verdict that in the dark? Many juries think
:28:35. > :28:38.that a not proven verdict is somehow different from a not guilty verdict,
:28:39. > :28:42.there maybe you could be tried again. That is completely rubbish.
:28:43. > :28:47.Judges in this country have been strongly advised by the Appeal Court
:28:48. > :28:51.not to try to distinguish the difference between not guilty and
:28:52. > :28:56.not proven. That seems to me bananas. If you can't explain what
:28:57. > :29:02.that is to a jury, then I am not sure it is a particularly rational
:29:03. > :29:06.system. A sentimental old-fashioned nationalism might want to keep it
:29:07. > :29:09.because you the one country the Globe that does it, but I am not
:29:10. > :29:18.sure that there's a convincing reason to keep it, to be honest. It
:29:19. > :29:21.would be easier just to have two different verdict.
:29:22. > :29:27.Hope you can catch us again tomorrow night, same time.