:00:00. > :00:24.What sort of deal can David Cameron bring back?
:00:25. > :00:27.The Prime Minister's trying to rewrite Britain's relationship
:00:28. > :00:31.with Europe - ahead of a possible referendum this June.
:00:32. > :00:34.But we'll ask why it seems that Scots are keener to stay
:00:35. > :00:40.We'll speak to Mark Millar - the comic book writer
:00:41. > :00:45.from Coatbridge who's behind some of Hollywood's most bankable movies.
:00:46. > :00:47.And for 40 years, the Motability scheme's
:00:48. > :00:50.helped people get around. Now thousands of Scots are set
:00:51. > :01:01.to lose out because of changes to the welfare rules.
:01:02. > :01:04.Is time running out for the Prime Minister?
:01:05. > :01:07.After meetings all day he made little ground and talks are now
:01:08. > :01:14.That may actually help his hand though, because there's another,
:01:15. > :01:17.and for many of Europe's leaders far more pressing matter
:01:18. > :01:29.but first here's Catriona Renton who's been watching events unfold.
:01:30. > :01:35.David Cameron arrived in Brussels ahead of talks determined to fight
:01:36. > :01:40.his corner. Good afternoon, we have important work to do today and
:01:41. > :01:44.tomorrow and it will be hard. I will be battling for Britain, if we get a
:01:45. > :01:48.good deal I will take that deal but I will not take a deal that does not
:01:49. > :01:52.meet what we need. It is more important to get this right than do
:01:53. > :01:57.anything in a rush but with goodwill and hard work we can get a better
:01:58. > :02:06.deal for Britain. Some leaders were supportive, Angela Merkel said she
:02:07. > :02:09.will do anything to create conditions so Britain remains a part
:02:10. > :02:12.of the European Union. Others had words of warning. One thing is clear
:02:13. > :02:21.to me though, this is a make or break summit, I have no doubt.
:02:22. > :02:26.Europe cannot be ruled for a sham and differently for others. Mr
:02:27. > :02:29.Cameron has been scooting around Europe visiting 26 countries and
:02:30. > :02:34.held in ten receptions at Downing Street for leaders. Trying to muster
:02:35. > :03:04.support for his deal. The key parts of the deal are...
:03:05. > :03:11.He posed with other leaders for a family photo, they look happy enough
:03:12. > :03:16.but what is going on behind closed doors? There are definitely
:03:17. > :03:19.obstacles in his way, some leaders of Eastern European countries like
:03:20. > :03:24.Poland and Hungary are resisting his plans to cut the amount of child
:03:25. > :03:29.benefit EU migrants can send home. And France isn't giving into
:03:30. > :03:34.attempts to secure protections for the city of London by giving
:03:35. > :03:37.non-eurozone countries the ability to store. Talks have been going on
:03:38. > :03:38.since this afternoon and will continue tomorrow.
:03:39. > :03:46.I spoke to Political Correspondent Matthew Karnitschnig.
:03:47. > :03:55.Bring us up where are the talks standing? Well, it looks like the
:03:56. > :04:01.talks could go throughout the night, we are told by the assistants who
:04:02. > :04:04.organised the meeting in the room that there has not been any
:04:05. > :04:09.breakthrough yet, they broke for dinner and they are talking about
:04:10. > :04:14.migration but in terms of exit, it does not appear they have made
:04:15. > :04:18.progress and the big decisions now will be whether Donald Tusk, the EU
:04:19. > :04:22.Council President decides to keep the leaders throughout the night or
:04:23. > :04:30.if he brings them back in the morning for breakfast as scheduled.
:04:31. > :04:34.Will a deal be because of David Cameron's hard work because the
:04:35. > :04:38.leaders have got other problems to deal with, you mention migration.
:04:39. > :04:45.The migrant crisis must be high on their list. Migration is definitely
:04:46. > :04:49.high on their list, my sense is there will be a deal because the
:04:50. > :04:53.rest of Europe realises it would be a disaster for everybody if the UK
:04:54. > :04:58.were to leave the EU. Nobody wants that. The delays we are seeing now
:04:59. > :05:04.are part of the choreography, they want it to appear that Britain has
:05:05. > :05:09.gotten the best deal possible that Cameron has really come here
:05:10. > :05:14.fighting as he said earlier and they will negotiate through the night
:05:15. > :05:20.before they come to a compromise. And I think that is something that
:05:21. > :05:24.Cameron can sell the deal at home. They have other issues that in
:05:25. > :05:29.countries like Germany in particular are more important to them with
:05:30. > :05:34.Brexit, the migrant crisis and it does not look at this point as if
:05:35. > :05:38.they will make much progress on that front. What Angela Merkel once from
:05:39. > :05:43.everyone else at the table tonight is for them to agree to take in more
:05:44. > :05:50.refugees and they are not willing to do that. David Cameron has taken a
:05:51. > :05:53.stand saying he wants to limit payments of benefits to migrants
:05:54. > :06:01.from Eastern Europe. As that stand-off with those countries been
:06:02. > :06:05.resolved? It hasn't been resolved and that is a real issue, not so
:06:06. > :06:12.much limiting the benefits for those in the UK as much as whether that
:06:13. > :06:17.part of the deal will apply to other EU countries. And by that I mean if
:06:18. > :06:21.a Polish citizen is in Germany whether Germany can also start
:06:22. > :06:29.limiting the in work benefits at work gets. Is what those four
:06:30. > :06:33.countries in Central and Eastern Europe are really worried about.
:06:34. > :06:38.That any compromise with the UK on this front could be implied El --
:06:39. > :06:43.applied elsewhere and since all these countries have thousands of
:06:44. > :06:50.workers working in western Europe, it would be a disaster for them and
:06:51. > :06:55.it is something they want to avoid. David Cameron says only a good deal
:06:56. > :06:59.would do, does he really mean that, is it conceivable he could return
:07:00. > :07:05.from these talks empty-handed without a deal being done? He won't
:07:06. > :07:10.return empty-handed, I think he will definitely return with some form of
:07:11. > :07:15.deal and right now it is about the symbolism and the Europeans wants to
:07:16. > :07:21.help him with that and what we hear from the French for example, from
:07:22. > :07:24.the Spaniards and the Italians is that they are quite willing to make
:07:25. > :07:31.this look as difficult as possible so that he go home tired and and
:07:32. > :07:37.say, he fought for the best deal possible for the UK. I think the
:07:38. > :07:41.actual details of what is being discussed tonight is second Cerri.
:07:42. > :07:46.Especially when you consider it will be several months before the UK
:07:47. > :07:49.votes on this in a referendum and by then most people will have forgotten
:07:50. > :07:53.the details of the summer this evening. There we must leave it.
:07:54. > :07:55.Thank you very much indeed. So as the talks in Brussels
:07:56. > :07:57.continue, is Scotland more likely
:07:58. > :07:59.to opt to remain than Our political correspondent
:08:00. > :08:17.Nick Eardley has been out Over the centuries, Edinburgh Castle
:08:18. > :08:21.was designed to keep foreign forces out. Nowadays it is a landmark
:08:22. > :08:24.attraction for tourists. Hundreds of thousands of Europeans visit
:08:25. > :08:33.Scotland every year. The ones we spoke to seem happy to be here.
:08:34. > :08:39.Yeah, a nice place. Are you enjoying Scotland? Yes! A bit cold. Very
:08:40. > :08:43.good, the place. Only the bad weather. The starting gun will be
:08:44. > :08:48.fired tomorrow on the referendum campaign. Soon UK voters will decide
:08:49. > :08:53.whether we want to remain part of the European Union. Most of
:08:54. > :08:57.Scotland's main parties support remaining in the EU, only you could
:08:58. > :09:02.argue for exit. Campaigners from other parties also act leaving. The
:09:03. > :09:08.support goes beyond the political bubble and is mirrored by a poll
:09:09. > :09:12.saying most Scots are happy to remain. Immigration and the free
:09:13. > :09:17.movement that comes with being a member is a central part of the
:09:18. > :09:22.debate in the UK. The number one concern amongst the population is
:09:23. > :09:25.immigration. And also Ukip were remarkably successful in linking the
:09:26. > :09:31.issues of immigration and EU membership. Polls in Scotland
:09:32. > :09:35.suggests there is concern about immigration here. But that does not
:09:36. > :09:40.appear to have led to a tide of your scepticism north of the border.
:09:41. > :09:46.Scotland is more pro-European and more likely to say it will vote to
:09:47. > :09:51.remain, that it banned the UK as a whole. 12 or 13 points also more
:09:52. > :09:56.likely to say they will vote to remain than in England or the UK.
:09:57. > :10:01.Polls suggest immigration is still seen as an issue in Scotland like in
:10:02. > :10:06.the south of England. In the south, it seems to be acquainted with
:10:07. > :10:14.wanting to leave the EU. Why is that not the case in Scotland? It is true
:10:15. > :10:19.Scotland is not absolutely concerned about immigration, if more people
:10:20. > :10:24.from Eastern Europe came, nearly half of people said they agree with
:10:25. > :10:31.the proposition. Why that does not have as much traction is the SNP has
:10:32. > :10:37.a very civic notion of what it means to be a Scot, they say if you are
:10:38. > :10:41.here, you live here and you regard yourself as Scottish then you are
:10:42. > :10:46.Scottish. What is it Scots are so enthusiastic about when it comes to
:10:47. > :10:52.the EU? Let's ask. I will vote to remain in the EU. Things like the
:10:53. > :10:56.equal rights act, maternity pay and things like that are big issues for
:10:57. > :11:02.me. I don't like the administration but I do like it the ability to work
:11:03. > :11:08.together. We have been ripped off for years, the money you take off
:11:09. > :11:14.us. Are people is keen on the journey across the country? The
:11:15. > :11:18.Ferguson shipyard has lost contracts recently after being forced to
:11:19. > :11:22.tender and EU laws. We put our questions to people on a
:11:23. > :11:29.lesser-known street here. It will be better if we stay in the EU that
:11:30. > :11:38.they can separate. If people come here to work and students and people
:11:39. > :11:42.like that, when they qualify their won the first and off. You think the
:11:43. > :11:49.free movement in the EU was a problem? I think it would be a
:11:50. > :11:53.problem if they stayed in. As the debate progresses in the coming
:11:54. > :11:57.months, we will find out which issues matter most and how much
:11:58. > :11:59.concerns over immigration play a part.
:12:00. > :12:01.Over the years, a select few Scots have made a name
:12:02. > :12:06.But perhaps the most influential of the lot
:12:07. > :12:10.Born in Coatbridge, he made a name for himself writing comic books.
:12:11. > :12:12.But recently he's inspired the Iron Man trilogy,
:12:13. > :12:18.And he's created a series of blockbusters
:12:19. > :12:22.On Monday he'll be at the premiere in Glasgow
:12:23. > :12:35.of a documentary called Marvel Renaissance.
:12:36. > :12:42.The last movie I saw was the avengers and that was amazing. That
:12:43. > :12:47.was every comic book fans dream to see those characters on the big
:12:48. > :12:51.screen. $1.5 billion worldwide and that is how much money the avengers
:12:52. > :12:56.made. People love escapist movies, it is
:12:57. > :13:01.modern myth-making of today. When I grew up, I was the only guy
:13:02. > :13:02.for 500 miles who could tell you he was Ironman. We all know. It's
:13:03. > :13:50.great. Thanks very much for coming in.
:13:51. > :13:59.Superheroes. They are back. They make billions for studios. Why the
:14:00. > :14:03.Renaissance? You forget Marvel Comics was in bankruptcy in the late
:14:04. > :14:08.90s. That is what this film I am presenting has been all about. It
:14:09. > :14:12.has been some 15 years, with wars and economic crises, but it makes us
:14:13. > :14:19.want fantasy and escapers, more than ever. We feed on it, people's fears.
:14:20. > :14:24.What are people looking for the films, apart from the special the
:14:25. > :14:30.action, is there a deeper theme? There's no incidents that when the
:14:31. > :14:33.world turned ugly around the millennium, you had The Lord Of The
:14:34. > :14:41.Rings and the superhero movies. We thought that it has gone to be a
:14:42. > :14:44.cycle, and here we are, 16 years on, with the film-making a third of
:14:45. > :14:48.billion inside six days. And it not letting up. People just want
:14:49. > :14:51.something that is fun and different from everything else and there will
:14:52. > :14:58.always be could for it. What does it say about America and the world in
:14:59. > :15:02.which we live, is it about wanting to sort out the mess that the world
:15:03. > :15:06.is in? I think circles of superheroes have done well in tough
:15:07. > :15:11.times. In World War II, these characters were created, and the
:15:12. > :15:15.Cuban missile crisis saw the creation of the Marvel universe. It
:15:16. > :15:19.goes back to age in Greece. If you think about it these things go back
:15:20. > :15:25.5000 years. People need these stories to get them through tough
:15:26. > :15:27.times. I love them, as well. People tend to undervalue that the best
:15:28. > :15:37.directors in the world are making these films. When I was a kid, it
:15:38. > :15:40.was the guys who did the likes of Jaws II who did the superhero
:15:41. > :15:44.movies. This stuff used to look terrible. When I was growing pile of
:15:45. > :15:50.that, but I was the only guy who loved it. I love the fact that it
:15:51. > :15:56.has been embraced by the mainstream. It is quality as well. You are
:15:57. > :15:59.somebody who has studied politics. You thought of becoming an
:16:00. > :16:06.economist. You take a sidestep into comic books. Has all that chaos in
:16:07. > :16:09.the world, the financial crisis, did that set the scene for your work, or
:16:10. > :16:18.will you looking at these themes, anyway? Stan Lee has been a kind God
:16:19. > :16:22.to me. I have taken advice from him when I was a kid. He said that what
:16:23. > :16:26.he did with the Marvel Comics was trying to tell stories about heroes,
:16:27. > :16:34.and the world that was outside your window. It was not about fairy
:16:35. > :16:39.tales, it was the real world. I made a very political and real world. I
:16:40. > :16:43.slipped the American icon thing that Superman and made him a Communist.
:16:44. > :16:48.Maybe it is being Scottish as well, we are very political people. These
:16:49. > :16:58.heroes are often nerds all losers. I can relate to that! I wonder, the
:16:59. > :17:05.trends in the world, you said seem to be continuing this theme.
:17:06. > :17:10.Stopping it from just dying out. There's a rebellion against the
:17:11. > :17:16.establishment, powerlessness, I wonder, where does it go from here?
:17:17. > :17:21.I just wonder, does art, does life start imitating art, with Donald
:17:22. > :17:26.Trump presenting himself as a superhero? Is that where we are
:17:27. > :17:28.going in the world now? Comics and movies have always been reflective
:17:29. > :17:35.of what is going on around them. When I was doing Kick-Ass, we had
:17:36. > :17:40.people going out trying to fight crime like the character in the
:17:41. > :17:44.story. It works the other way, I rip stuff from the headlines and put it
:17:45. > :17:49.into comics, and sometimes, the comics seek out into the real world,
:17:50. > :17:53.as well. What do you make of Donald Trump, presenting itself as the guy
:17:54. > :17:57.who can fix America, it is like a theme from one of your films. You
:17:58. > :18:06.can see why it is attracting, when you have got Jeremy Corbyn, Bernie
:18:07. > :18:09.Sanders, the SNP in Scotland, it is an attractive, simple solution to
:18:10. > :18:12.difficult times. When the establishment has let you down, it
:18:13. > :18:19.is exciting to have these antiestablishment figures.
:18:20. > :18:22.Superheroes are quite radical, maverick kind of characters and that
:18:23. > :18:27.is attractive in these difficult times as well. You talk about that
:18:28. > :18:31.going back through fixed -- through history, back to ancient Greece.
:18:32. > :18:37.This is something that is very deep in people. It is essential. We make
:18:38. > :18:41.these things up. All of these stories are made up. Nothing is
:18:42. > :18:47.based on reality. The stories based -- made up because we need them. We
:18:48. > :18:52.need these things to get us through. Through the boring mundanities of
:18:53. > :18:58.daily life. You have come so far. You are a big shot in Hollywood. But
:18:59. > :19:02.you have stayed close to home and a sense. You're still in Glasgow, you
:19:03. > :19:06.live and work here. How does that go? It was a decision I made. When
:19:07. > :19:10.the children were born I made this choice that I could either let them
:19:11. > :19:18.grow up with people whom they love, or with people with whom we have a
:19:19. > :19:23.four picture deal with. I did not want to be one of those horrible
:19:24. > :19:27.Hollywood families. When I see my friends' kids in the States, I'm
:19:28. > :19:32.always horrified. I don't want them to be ten-year-olds with cocaine
:19:33. > :19:36.habits and things! I don't hang out with any sort of film or comic book
:19:37. > :19:43.people. Every one of my friends has a real job. I can relate to that
:19:44. > :19:49.kind of thing, I commute to and then I come back to reality. My pals that
:19:50. > :19:52.I to the pub with, they will still hang out with me regardless of what
:19:53. > :20:01.my grocers are in my films. Whereas in Hollywood, you are as cool as
:20:02. > :20:02.your last movie. -- what my grosses are.
:20:03. > :20:10.For nearly 40 years the Motability scheme has helped people to get
:20:11. > :20:13.about by exchanging their Motability allowance to lease a car,
:20:14. > :20:17.Seventy thousand people in Scotland receive such payments,
:20:18. > :20:19.but UK Government welfare changes mean that many are now
:20:20. > :20:25.Our reporter Ian Hamilton met one disabled woman
:20:26. > :20:34.who is being forced to give up her car after 26 years.
:20:35. > :20:39.Gillian has been on the Motability scheme for 26 years. She says that
:20:40. > :20:49.without her car, life would be very difficult. I have a weakness of the
:20:50. > :20:57.whole left side of my body. Therefore, I struggle with walking
:20:58. > :21:02.and I need my car to get about, because, to walk from here to the
:21:03. > :21:10.end of the lane is a struggle. If I did not have my car, I could not
:21:11. > :21:16.have a life and I could not look after and care for my family. I have
:21:17. > :21:21.a caliper that I have got on my leg. Jolene was born with cerebral palsy.
:21:22. > :21:27.She also has arthritis and other hip troubles. She finds it hard to walk
:21:28. > :21:35.any distance. -- Gillian. If I don't have that, I don't have any muscle
:21:36. > :21:44.on my foot. I cannot walk without it. Because she made a mistake
:21:45. > :21:46.filling out her application form, or the Personal Independence Payment
:21:47. > :21:50.which replaces the Disability Living Allowance, she will have two hand
:21:51. > :21:56.back her car to a dealership. There were three questions on how far you
:21:57. > :22:05.could walk. The answers were 20 metres, 20-50 metres, or 50 and
:22:06. > :22:11.over. I ticked 20-50. I made a mistake. I should have ticked the
:22:12. > :22:20.20, and the 20 and 50 blocks, but I did not. Sometimes, I can walk about
:22:21. > :22:28.40 metres, other times, 25 metres, it just depends on how my body is.
:22:29. > :22:35.The Personal Independence Payment which is replacing the Disability
:22:36. > :22:38.Living Allowance, and to be able to get a Motability vehicle you have to
:22:39. > :22:43.get the higher section of that or you're not entitled to plan. It is
:22:44. > :22:47.not just disabled people who have fears about the benefit changes. The
:22:48. > :22:57.motor trade are equally concerned. The new car industry in Scotland is
:22:58. > :23:03.220,000 units in 2015. 30% of that, 28,000 vehicles went on to the
:23:04. > :23:06.Motability lease scheme. That is Scotland's largest fleet of over
:23:07. > :23:12.80,000 units that are maintained, repaired and then given an MOT or
:23:13. > :23:15.within the industry. This is public money. Surely, there should be some
:23:16. > :23:20.kind of restriction on who gets a beagle and who does not. We believe
:23:21. > :23:30.a lot of the money will be substitution money. Effectively, if
:23:31. > :23:34.this PIP scheme removes people from the system, then those people may
:23:35. > :23:38.well have to call in local authority money or local council money for
:23:39. > :23:50.taxis and buses and all the rest of it. Would it not make more economic
:23:51. > :23:56.sense to let disabled people hold onto their vehicles until after the
:23:57. > :23:58.interview? But the Department of Work and Pensions gave me this
:23:59. > :24:21.statement. Julian was unsuccessful with
:24:22. > :24:25.application so her car goes back to the dealership tomorrow. She intends
:24:26. > :24:30.to appeal, and with 60% success rate, she has a good chance of
:24:31. > :24:33.getting her car back, which begs the question, why is the Department of
:24:34. > :24:34.Work and Pensions putting disabled people through this in the first
:24:35. > :24:39.place? Joining me now to take
:24:40. > :24:42.a look at the day's news is the Observer Columnist Kevin
:24:43. > :24:44.McKenna, and Amy Dalrymple, Vice Chair of the Centre
:24:45. > :24:53.for Scottish Public Policy. Let's pick up on first but Ian
:24:54. > :24:59.Hamilton the question at the end, the success rate in these appeals
:25:00. > :25:05.against decisions to remove that allowance is so high, it makes you
:25:06. > :25:10.wonder what the point of processing all of these cases is, the point in
:25:11. > :25:13.putting people with a disability through it in the first place. I
:25:14. > :25:18.think the policy itself is rather short-sighted. The health and
:25:19. > :25:24.emotional value of somebody maintaining their independence is so
:25:25. > :25:30.great, in terms of future savings for the public sector, I think it is
:25:31. > :25:35.a real example of silo policy decision-making, short-term thinking
:25:36. > :25:42.and the point about the appeal just demonstrates as well how
:25:43. > :25:46.short-sighted overlooking the wider factors around this there is,
:25:47. > :25:48.because what the appeals are doing is taking that into account and
:25:49. > :25:54.taking into account why people need these allowances. It is all publicly
:25:55. > :26:00.funded. I wonder, will this attempt to try to trim benefits, it might
:26:01. > :26:09.well appeal to some voters. This goes along with recent Conservative
:26:10. > :26:12.Party policy in the area of work and pensions and benefits. And it is
:26:13. > :26:21.almost designed to dehumanise people, to make them tick boxes, and
:26:22. > :26:25.it fails to take account of individuals' needs, and personal
:26:26. > :26:29.circumstances. The point is that the appeals would take care of that. You
:26:30. > :26:36.could on the other hand say, why are they bringing in a private company
:26:37. > :26:41.who, presumably, get bonuses or earn their money on how much money they
:26:42. > :26:44.save, and they have a target? Presumably, what would happen at the
:26:45. > :26:47.end of the day when they have processed 100 and find that they are
:26:48. > :26:51.all fit to receive an effect or qualify for benefits, will they go
:26:52. > :26:57.back and take ten off because they have not reached the quota? When you
:26:58. > :27:00.are trying to cut back on any benefits, it is an exercise about
:27:01. > :27:05.trimming round the edges and checking to see who is eligible and
:27:06. > :27:10.who is not. It is a hard business. The more holistic way of juicing the
:27:11. > :27:16.benefit bill would be to look at it in the longer term, to keep people
:27:17. > :27:22.healthy, to educate people better, it would be to make sure that they
:27:23. > :27:26.are -- there are fewer people than any benefits, rather than trying to
:27:27. > :27:30.penalised those who do, and if we come back to that appeals rate, that
:27:31. > :27:34.is not an efficient way of going about trimming benefits, when you
:27:35. > :27:37.cut them back and have to reinstate them. It is adding increased
:27:38. > :27:43.bureaucracy and it costs the system more. What has been a political row
:27:44. > :27:48.of the day is the Pope questioning the Christianity of Donald Trump.
:27:49. > :27:51.The Pope apparently said, that a person who thinks of walls and not
:27:52. > :27:52.building Bridges is not Christian. Let's see how Donald Trump
:27:53. > :27:59.responded. If and when the Vatican is attacked
:28:00. > :28:07.by ISIS, which, as everyone knows, is ISIS' ultimate trophy, I can
:28:08. > :28:10.promise you that the Pope would only have wished and prayed that Donald
:28:11. > :28:21.Trump would have been president, the Gos... It is true, it is true.
:28:22. > :28:28.Donald Trump likes to hammer his opponents. Can you win this one, do
:28:29. > :28:37.you think? I am a Catholic and I like the Pope, but you cannot help
:28:38. > :28:44.but admire the chutzpah of Donald Trump. Any other political leader
:28:45. > :28:48.would be looking for the PR questions to come up with. And he
:28:49. > :28:53.said that it is a disgrace that this man questions my religion. I have to
:28:54. > :28:56.laugh, given that he has a Scottish grandmother and a couple of Scottish
:28:57. > :29:01.golf courses, and he is talking about how violated he feels about
:29:02. > :29:06.having his religion question. He obviously does not spend enough time
:29:07. > :29:12.in Scotland or he would be used to it. But France's has been called a
:29:13. > :29:21.very political person. Is that how he appears to you -- Pope Francis.
:29:22. > :29:26.He seems to have been moved on to promoting a wider worldview, the
:29:27. > :29:31.Pope, this is, not Donald Trump. It is less about personal morality and
:29:32. > :29:37.more how he wants to see the world. And yes, as Kevin said, a lot of
:29:38. > :29:41.people like him for that. Again, I think that Kevin is right about the
:29:42. > :29:46.interesting bit in this, Donald Trump's reaction after the clip you
:29:47. > :29:50.show, which is that he does not have the right to question my religion.
:29:51. > :29:54.That is a really interesting debate, when you think about how closely
:29:55. > :29:59.religion has become intertwined into political debate in America, this
:30:00. > :30:07.idea of who can ask the questions around that, and how far religious
:30:08. > :30:13.leaders can wade into the debate, it has in itself become really quite
:30:14. > :30:18.religious. Could this harm Donald Trump's Yaz try to reach out to
:30:19. > :30:19.evangelical voters, to Catholic voters, and there's the Pope saying,
:30:20. > :30:56.he is not a Christian. On one hand he is trying to portray
:30:57. > :31:00.himself as a quest that -- as a Christian, and as such, having done
:31:01. > :31:04.that in the political sphere, then why is he getting upset when
:31:05. > :31:09.somebody calls him out on one aspect, a very big aspect, of his
:31:10. > :31:15.political philosophy? Do you see Hamas President? Goodness me, no.
:31:16. > :31:20.Can you make it, that is the question? No, no, he won't. I have
:31:21. > :31:27.that much faith in the American public. There are, we must leave it.
:31:28. > :31:34.Amy and Kevin, thank you very much. Thank you for watching. Shelley is
:31:35. > :31:36.back on Monday. From all of us, good night.
:31:37. > :31:42.A world full of your favourite Dickens characters.