:00:11. > :00:27.The Scottish Government's plans for the NHS are called into question.
:00:28. > :00:31.The public spending watchdog issues a scathing verdict
:00:32. > :00:32.on the Scottish Government's plans
:00:33. > :00:38.We'll hear from the Health Secretary.
:00:39. > :00:40.And praise for Scotland's record on the environment
:00:41. > :00:52.from no less than the UN's Head of Climate Change.
:00:53. > :00:54.A lack of leadership by the Scottish Government
:00:55. > :01:00.is preventing the NHS from making the changes which are needed
:01:01. > :01:02.if it's to cope with an older, sicker population.
:01:03. > :01:03.That's the finding of a scathing report
:01:04. > :01:06.by the public spending watchdog, Audit Scotland.
:01:07. > :01:09.It found that the current ways of working are unsustainable,
:01:10. > :01:12.especially in the face of tougher public spending budgets.
:01:13. > :01:14.In a moment, we'll hear from the Health Secretary.
:01:15. > :01:32.Getting us out of hospital and back into our own homes. It has been the
:01:33. > :01:36.aim of successive governments including this SNP administration.
:01:37. > :01:41.What it has done differently is set a deadline called the 2020 Vision,
:01:42. > :01:46.described as the most substantial NHS reform in a generation. But this
:01:47. > :01:50.Audit Scotland report says it is endangered by a lack of leadership.
:01:51. > :01:55.We think the Scottish Government can do more to put the plan in place to
:01:56. > :02:08.support its vision, which has been around since 2010, and progress
:02:09. > :02:12.is not fast enough to see it completed and running by 2020 as
:02:13. > :02:14.originally envisaged, so plans are bought from Government, and equally
:02:15. > :02:17.more people and health boards and councillors could make sure they are
:02:18. > :02:19.testing out what is working from the changes they are making. The
:02:20. > :02:22.Government plan is to integrate health and social care allowing more
:02:23. > :02:24.averse to be cared for in or as close as possible to our own homes
:02:25. > :02:27.instead of being admitted to hospital. It means large parts of
:02:28. > :02:37.health and council spending are being merged when staff are under
:02:38. > :02:41.increasing pressure. Nurses around the country are aware of the need to
:02:42. > :02:45.make changes. They are struggling and they understand that within
:02:46. > :02:48.their boards, local authorities and councils that Chief Executive 's
:02:49. > :02:53.have hard choices because the budgets are tough and they know
:02:54. > :02:57.savings are being made. They also know that there are changes in
:02:58. > :03:02.practice they could make. The NHS is stuck between two models of care. It
:03:03. > :03:06.is currently focused on the here and now, short-term and drug target
:03:07. > :03:13.driven with treatment in big expense of hospitals like this one. By 2020
:03:14. > :03:16.it is supposed to be about preventative and community-based
:03:17. > :03:22.care. But with so much cash tied up in resources like this can it afford
:03:23. > :03:27.to make those changes? Money is just one pressure point. The third of GPs
:03:28. > :03:33.are over 50 and by 2034 the number of Scots over 85 will have doubled.
:03:34. > :03:36.The Scottish Government says it is investing an extra quarter of ?1
:03:37. > :03:41.billion in the budget for health and social care. Opposition parties say
:03:42. > :03:50.it may be too little too late. It shows we are facing a perfect storm
:03:51. > :03:55.of reduced real terms funding, of an increasing, ageing population, of
:03:56. > :04:01.extra pressures on the workforce, also emphasising the fact that we
:04:02. > :04:06.are going to be forecast to lose many GPs. I think it is a bit of a
:04:07. > :04:10.mess. I hope it works but I have serious doubts, and it is clear from
:04:11. > :04:16.the Audit Scotland report that they have doubts about the progress made,
:04:17. > :04:21.the rate is slow and the budgets are critical to the delivery. If we are
:04:22. > :04:26.going to have any prospect of securing an NHS in public hands,
:04:27. > :04:30.free at the point of need and delivery, on a sustainable base
:04:31. > :04:39.going into the future, somebody needs to show real leadership now in
:04:40. > :04:41.order to agree the plan to secure that, and I think Audit Scotland are
:04:42. > :04:43.expressing concern about the leadership of the Government.
:04:44. > :04:48.Changing the NHS is like turning around and World Bank. It cannot be
:04:49. > :04:50.rushed but needs steering, and as pressure mounts on the system is
:04:51. > :04:57.time beginning to run out? Just before we came on air I spoke
:04:58. > :05:07.to the Health Secretary Shona Robison from our studio. A lack of
:05:08. > :05:15.vision, Al-Aqsa of leadership? This report cannot have been comfortable
:05:16. > :05:18.read -- a lack of leadership, that could not have been comfortable
:05:19. > :05:23.reading for youth. I have been in this job a year now and during that
:05:24. > :05:27.time I have spent more time meeting local partnerships and speaking to
:05:28. > :05:31.them, making sure the national arrangements are in place, making
:05:32. > :05:36.sure the funding is in place, so a lot has been done to provide that
:05:37. > :05:38.national leadership, the framework and the money, but there is always
:05:39. > :05:44.more that can be done. We always look
:05:45. > :05:49.closely at Audit Scotland reports and the recommendations they make.
:05:50. > :05:54.If there is more we can do nationally, then we will do. The
:05:55. > :05:58.report is pretty clear, it says the Scottish Government needs to provide
:05:59. > :06:04.stronger leadership. This is halfway through the plan, and that is what
:06:05. > :06:09.they are saying at this stage. Well, I would say that the partnerships I
:06:10. > :06:13.meet on a regular basis, I meet many of them, and they are ready to hit
:06:14. > :06:17.the ground running on the 1st of April. We have had some partnerships
:06:18. > :06:21.further down the line than others, but of course that is always the
:06:22. > :06:25.case, and we have supported those partnerships that need to do more to
:06:26. > :06:30.ensure they can hit the ground running on the 1st of April. We are
:06:31. > :06:37.providing ?250 million of additional resources for social care from the
:06:38. > :06:40.1st of April. We have provided 300 million in the Integrated Care Plan
:06:41. > :06:45.and we are providing support around Best practice and the roll of best
:06:46. > :06:48.practice, and we have provided a lot of support, but as I said there was
:06:49. > :06:54.always more we can do, we want to do more and we will look at the report
:06:55. > :06:58.closely. Quite a bit more. Audit Scotland says there is limited
:06:59. > :07:04.evidence of transformational change on the scale required to meet the
:07:05. > :07:07.objective of 2020 Vision. This is not your opponents, this is the
:07:08. > :07:12.public spending watchdog saying this. And of course we look closely
:07:13. > :07:17.at the reports, but the partnerships only formally come into being on the
:07:18. > :07:22.1st of April, so they have only had a shadow year, they only hit the
:07:23. > :07:26.ground running on the 1st of April, and of course we have given them
:07:27. > :07:30.extensive new resources to work with to ensure they can meet the
:07:31. > :07:34.challenges, and we have just published a national chronicle
:07:35. > :07:37.strategy to provide a good framework for health and care services to
:07:38. > :07:47.follow, and there are good examples of good practice, which Audit
:07:48. > :07:56.Scotland... They also say change is small-scale and not widespread
:07:57. > :08:01.enough. Well, changed does take time but it is happening and if you look
:08:02. > :08:05.across Scotland attacked -- Scotland the tackling of delayed discharge is
:08:06. > :08:09.happening. We are already seeing results even in the Shadow year
:08:10. > :08:14.before the partnerships are formally constituted from the 1st of April. I
:08:15. > :08:19.accept there is more to be done. I said last year when Audit Scotland
:08:20. > :08:25.produced a similar report that we needed to up the pace of change and
:08:26. > :08:30.deliver the 2020 Vision faster. This report says you haven't managed to
:08:31. > :08:36.do that. ?250 million of resources will help crank up the speed of that
:08:37. > :08:40.change. The report also considers funding and says the level of
:08:41. > :08:47.investment required to keep pace with demand is not sustainable in
:08:48. > :08:52.the current financial climate. Well, the ?250 million for social care is
:08:53. > :08:58.one of the biggest transfers of resources we have seen... And that
:08:59. > :09:03.is for a single year? It is recurring, it will continue. 250
:09:04. > :09:08.million a year going forward so over four years, ?1 billion of
:09:09. > :09:13.investment. That was a decision we took because we know we have to
:09:14. > :09:16.transfer more resources from acute services into primary and community
:09:17. > :09:31.services and social care, and we needed to up the pace on that.
:09:32. > :09:35.That is why that is one of the biggest transfers of resources we
:09:36. > :09:38.have seen, but I can ever remember, and we need to make sure, though,
:09:39. > :09:41.that that money works, but it delivers new services on the ground,
:09:42. > :09:43.and of course it will deliver the living wage for social care workers
:09:44. > :09:46.as well. So all that taken together, I think the pace of change from this
:09:47. > :09:49.year on will crank up, and it needs to and I have said that previously.
:09:50. > :09:51.There was good news today, that Scottish emergency departments are
:09:52. > :09:54.treating people more quickly than anywhere else in the UK, but doesn't
:09:55. > :10:00.that just highlight the pressure you have to keep channelling funds into
:10:01. > :10:06.acute services to meet accident and emergency targets or other targets
:10:07. > :10:09.like that? Is it simply too difficult to shift the funding
:10:10. > :10:15.required to make this transformational change by 2020? It
:10:16. > :10:19.is a challenging thing to do, and of course we need to keep acute
:10:20. > :10:24.services going as well because people will continue to need
:10:25. > :10:28.accident and emergency and the acute services we provide, but we can
:10:29. > :10:31.provide those more effectively and efficiently in the national
:10:32. > :10:37.Chronicle strategy, which lays out the blueprint for the next ten or 15
:10:38. > :10:41.years of how that will happen -- National clinical strategy. But we
:10:42. > :10:43.need to see the development of clinical health services including
:10:44. > :10:51.clinical services because we know if we do that we will see less people
:10:52. > :10:53.turning up at accident and emergency or admitted to hospital and see
:10:54. > :10:57.people getting home more quickly. That is why we made the decision to
:10:58. > :11:02.allocate half the resources to help that would go through the NHS to
:11:03. > :11:06.social care. That was a decision we made because we know that is where
:11:07. > :11:11.we need to be able to keep people out of hospital and that is where
:11:12. > :11:13.the investment needs to be made. I am sure you can understand on a
:11:14. > :11:19.report card like this more than halfway through this supposed
:11:20. > :11:22.change, people will be concerned. I confident, can you guarantee you
:11:23. > :11:31.will have the services you are expecting by 2020? We will make more
:11:32. > :11:42.progress than we have made to date by 2020. We need to up the Pope pace
:11:43. > :11:45.of change. That is why the strategy is a comprehensive blueprint for the
:11:46. > :11:50.next 15 years setting out what needs to happen, and that is about as
:11:51. > :11:54.focusing on primary, community and social care services, keeping people
:11:55. > :11:58.out of hospital, reorganising the way acute services are delivered,
:11:59. > :12:02.better regional planning services, all that will need to happen at a
:12:03. > :12:07.pace we haven't seen before, which will be challenging but in the
:12:08. > :12:12.national leadership I will provide alongside the Government, we will
:12:13. > :12:16.make sure we give the right policies, frameworks and resources
:12:17. > :12:18.that are there to make sure that happens. Shona Robison in Dundee,
:12:19. > :12:21.thank you very much for joining us. She's the woman who helped forge
:12:22. > :12:23.an historic global deal on climate change
:12:24. > :12:25.in Paris in December. Today, the Costa Rican diplomat
:12:26. > :12:27.Christiana Figueres was in Holyrood, where she met the First Minister,
:12:28. > :12:29.Nicola Sturgeon. Scotland's own
:12:30. > :12:31.climate change targets were at the top
:12:32. > :12:34.of the agenda. Our environment correspondent,
:12:35. > :12:35.David Miller, to talk about the record
:12:36. > :12:40.of the Scottish and the prospect of
:12:41. > :12:59.a Trump Presidency. The Paris Agreement is adopted.
:13:00. > :13:04.CHEERING. Paris, December 2015, and after the chaos and confusion of the
:13:05. > :13:10.Copenhagen climate talks six years earlier, a global deal is finally
:13:11. > :13:14.struck. Firmly at the helm, Christiana Figueres, in her role as
:13:15. > :13:20.executive secretary of the United Nations framework Convention on
:13:21. > :13:24.climate change. Charismatic, passionate and determined, this is a
:13:25. > :13:29.woman who helped achieve what many said would prove impossible. I
:13:30. > :13:35.wanted to know what were her hopes and fears post Paris. Can I begin by
:13:36. > :13:42.asking you about the post-Paris world, the conference in Paris was
:13:43. > :13:52.met with a very positive response internationally. Exhilaration, I
:13:53. > :13:57.would say! Your words, but a real positivity. Given the scale of the
:13:58. > :14:09.challenge, the vast political backdrop, 100 and countries, what
:14:10. > :14:15.contribution can Scotland hope to make. Only some countries have
:14:16. > :14:23.presented their plans and we expect the rest to be able to do that in
:14:24. > :14:28.due time. But Scotland is actually, yes, a small emitter, but very
:14:29. > :14:36.important in its leadership. I come from a very small country that is
:14:37. > :14:40.also a small emitter but has taken a leadership role. In the case of
:14:41. > :14:51.Scotland, the fact that in 2009 you already took on climate change and
:14:52. > :14:56.took what was then considered and ambitious target, and Scotland is
:14:57. > :15:03.already at 38%, presents a good example of the fact that once we
:15:04. > :15:09.have a target and we focus and bring together private sector ingenuity,
:15:10. > :15:17.financing and policy, that we can meet and exceed targets.
:15:18. > :15:25.What you have to look at is watered in the direction of travel. The
:15:26. > :15:28.direction of travel is the one that is important and it is very
:15:29. > :15:34.understandable that there will be periods in which any economy is
:15:35. > :15:38.meeting and exceeding and periods during which any economy is actually
:15:39. > :15:43.lagging behind. I am not so concerned about if I say... About
:15:44. > :15:49.the ebbs and flows. What I think is much more important is what is the
:15:50. > :15:55.undercurrent. What is the direction of travel? That is fundamentally
:15:56. > :15:59.very sound. And there is a huge political commitment to continue
:16:00. > :16:03.this. So I am not so concerned about the little ebbs and flows. What I
:16:04. > :16:07.look at is underneath what is the direction?
:16:08. > :16:10.You have spoken of Scottish leadership, is the UK's leading on
:16:11. > :16:20.the international stage in the way you would like to see? UK definitely
:16:21. > :16:23.lead... Past tense? It laid in Paris and lead throughout the six years
:16:24. > :16:27.that I had the honour of being there and I am grateful this has occurred
:16:28. > :16:31.throughout several governments in the UK. There has never been a
:16:32. > :16:36.question about the international leadership of the UK. When you
:16:37. > :16:39.devolve that then inside the UK, of course we know that there is
:16:40. > :16:46.currently the discussion about what are we doing about incentives for
:16:47. > :16:51.renewables, incentives for energy efficiency. And that is still an
:16:52. > :16:55.ongoing conversation and one... So is the UK talking the talk but
:16:56. > :17:03.failing to walk the walk? I would not put it that way. Because, at the
:17:04. > :17:09.international level, the pacing and the timing is that we deal with are
:17:10. > :17:16.much longer. And I have no doubt that the UK as a whole remains
:17:17. > :17:19.committed to those long-term targets, and to the long-term path.
:17:20. > :17:23.I have no doubt about that. A global problem which will require a global
:17:24. > :17:29.solution, clearly, that is a given. In light of that, how do you view
:17:30. > :17:33.the prospect of a Donald Trump Presidency? Honestly, that is a
:17:34. > :17:38.concern. That is a concern. The fact is that I hear from everyone who is
:17:39. > :17:47.commenting on the US campaign elections that nobody really knows
:17:48. > :17:50.if Trump were to be the candidate, and then a few steps there, elected
:17:51. > :17:56.as President what he would actually do. I do not think we should fall
:17:57. > :18:01.into the simplistic assumption that we already know today what he would
:18:02. > :18:05.do on climate change, for example, because from everything that I hear,
:18:06. > :18:12.it really is quite unpredictable what he would do. His language seems
:18:13. > :18:18.resolute. He clearly is not a believer. He says that about many
:18:19. > :18:29.things but here is the important thing about this, two things. First,
:18:30. > :18:34.74% of the US electorate understands that climate change is a Colin, that
:18:35. > :18:39.it is man and woman made and that we have to do something about it. --
:18:40. > :18:44.climate change is car ring. On the popular base, there is read a lot of
:18:45. > :18:46.support and there has been for the remarkable leadership that President
:18:47. > :18:56.Obama has been displaying. Point number one. Point number two, the
:18:57. > :19:00.fact is that US industry is benefited not by looking to the
:19:01. > :19:05.technologies of the past but by looking to the technologies of the
:19:06. > :19:15.future. And I cannot imagine that any US president next year would
:19:16. > :19:19.want to be OK with the fact that China is currently the number-1 of
:19:20. > :19:25.solar panels in the world, the number two producer of wind
:19:26. > :19:30.turbines. Is that OK for US industry? Does the US industry
:19:31. > :19:37.actually... It has a huge potential to both have breakthrough renewable
:19:38. > :19:41.energy technologies, as we have seen from the initiative that Bill Gates
:19:42. > :19:48.and many of his high wealth friends put money into and committed money
:19:49. > :19:54.in Paris to help breakthrough technologies, but overall there is a
:19:55. > :19:57.huge export market, because we are moving to a low carbon economy, no
:19:58. > :20:03.matter what. That is unstoppable by now. That is the demand that is
:20:04. > :20:09.where the cutting edge technologies are coming from. That is the kind of
:20:10. > :20:15.energy that will be demanded. So I cannot imagine that any US
:20:16. > :20:21.government would feel satisfied with giving up a leadership role that
:20:22. > :20:24.they can quite easily have. Finally, let me ask, given the complexity and
:20:25. > :20:34.scale of the challenge, the controversy, how do you cope? How do
:20:35. > :20:35.you go to these huge, incredibly detailed, controversial, complex
:20:36. > :20:43.international negotiations and think," I can somehow pilot my way
:20:44. > :20:47.through this?" First of all, it is not that I can pilot, we can pilot.
:20:48. > :20:53.It really is very much a collective effort. But actually, my question is
:20:54. > :20:58.the opposite. What option do we have? It is unacceptable to leave
:20:59. > :21:02.developing countries behind. It is unacceptable to condemn vulnerable
:21:03. > :21:08.populations to eternal poverty because we would never be able to
:21:09. > :21:13.catch up. And it is frankly stupid not to make the kinds of investments
:21:14. > :21:18.that would produce prosperity and benefit for all. It is just... It is
:21:19. > :21:21.a no-brainer. Thank you very much. Thank you.
:21:22. > :21:23.David Miller speaking to the UN's Head of Climate Change
:21:24. > :21:27.Joining me now to talk about that and some of the day's other news
:21:28. > :21:29.are the journalists Pennie Taylor and Dominic Hynde.
:21:30. > :21:40.Some interesting comments they are from her, particularly on the
:21:41. > :21:43.prospect of a Trump Presidency. Dominik, you're just back from New
:21:44. > :21:47.York covering the election. What did you make of her comments? She is
:21:48. > :21:50.right to say that a Donald Trump Presidency would be hard to read at
:21:51. > :21:55.this stage. I think there is a lot of time to go before we get anywhere
:21:56. > :21:59.near the White House. There is also a cautionary element to what she
:22:00. > :22:04.says, in that Trump has been quite vocally pro-fossil fuels, has said
:22:05. > :22:07.that climate change targets hold back American industry. The thing to
:22:08. > :22:11.understand about American politics and the environment, it is not about
:22:12. > :22:14.the environment, it is about a cultural war between the
:22:15. > :22:18.pro-environment real liberal class and what the American right sees as
:22:19. > :22:23.normal people and the interests of America. It is interesting that she
:22:24. > :22:28.was bringing up China in a provocative way, to say, America, do
:22:29. > :22:32.you want China to lead the way? Indeed. One thing that is becoming
:22:33. > :22:35.evident is that as more and more countries shift to a more
:22:36. > :22:39.sustainable economic model, or at least talk about it, America feels
:22:40. > :22:47.incredibly, increasingly old-fashioned. A Trump Presidency,
:22:48. > :22:55.or a Clint -- Clinton presidency, who has been pro-oil, would seem
:22:56. > :22:59.anachronistic. She was warm about our record in Scotland. Yes, but I
:23:00. > :23:02.was getting the impression that although we will not meet our
:23:03. > :23:06.interim targets and although there are plans to cut 10% from the budget
:23:07. > :23:10.in Scotland for climate change and she was being encouraging. I think
:23:11. > :23:13.it was diplomatic language. It is basically saying you're doing very
:23:14. > :23:20.well, chaps, but you have a lot further to go. That is patently
:23:21. > :23:24.true. She is a motivational diplomat, I think. She did say at
:23:25. > :23:28.the end of the day that she felt it was a direction of travel that was
:23:29. > :23:30.important for Scotland. It is the direction of travel but climate
:23:31. > :23:33.change is getting worse and worse of all time. In Scotland, although the
:23:34. > :23:38.figures on renewable energy production are very impressive, when
:23:39. > :23:43.you break down the data, you see that in Scotland originally nothing
:23:44. > :23:46.has been done to tackle emissions from household heating and
:23:47. > :23:49.transport, which are largely fossil -based style. The government in
:23:50. > :23:54.Scotland have started building roads that are forecast to increase
:23:55. > :23:57.emissions from transport. So I think there are hard questions that need
:23:58. > :24:01.to be asked about the long-term strategy. I am hoping she is doing
:24:02. > :24:04.that had closed doors when she is meeting senior people in the
:24:05. > :24:10.Scottish Government today. OK, let's move on to top story this evening,
:24:11. > :24:13.the damning report on the Scottish Government's progress on implement
:24:14. > :24:18.in its plans for more health care in the community. This is what the
:24:19. > :24:21.Auditor General had to say. The real challenge is that the vision is very
:24:22. > :24:24.clear but the change that is happening on the ground in
:24:25. > :24:27.communities across Scotland are still quite small scale and not
:24:28. > :24:32.widespread enough to really provide the services that are needed to help
:24:33. > :24:37.older people stay in their own homes as long as possible. It was a pretty
:24:38. > :24:40.damning report, was it not? It was. It was the latest in a series of
:24:41. > :24:46.pretty damning reports about progress on this agenda and I have
:24:47. > :24:48.to say, what I am hearing on the ground, certainly, echoes those
:24:49. > :24:56.sentiments. Yesterday I was hearing from a man that runs a social
:24:57. > :24:59.enterprise where they are trying to run a successful project to keep out
:25:00. > :25:02.of people out of hospital. He does not know where the money is coming
:25:03. > :25:06.from to see him through into next week. So whilst lots of money, and
:25:07. > :25:11.there is a real intention from the government to make a difference to
:25:12. > :25:15.this, it is in the middle I am hearing it is not happening. The
:25:16. > :25:19.money is not trickling through. It is getting stuck somewhere. Somebody
:25:20. > :25:23.has to work out why and where it is getting stuck, and unstick it quick.
:25:24. > :25:28.Is it acute services, is that your suspicion? Obviously, we have got to
:25:29. > :25:32.keep going with acute services as they stand. There are building
:25:33. > :25:35.blocks in place. The government has produced a very good national
:25:36. > :25:38.clinical strategy that gives strong indications about what we need to
:25:39. > :25:41.do. But it is going to be very uncomfortable. Politically
:25:42. > :25:45.uncomfortable and uncomfortable for individuals in communities, because
:25:46. > :25:51.it means changing the way we have been used to acute services
:25:52. > :25:56.operating. If we are going to free up resources to put them into the
:25:57. > :25:59.immunity, to keep people well, it is necessary. If we agree that matters,
:26:00. > :26:05.we have all got to be addressing what it will take to do that. We so
:26:06. > :26:08.figures out today about waiting times in Accident Emergency.
:26:09. > :26:11.Scotland was better than the rest of the UK. Still not hitting the
:26:12. > :26:14.target. What government is going to shift funds away from hitting both
:26:15. > :26:20.kind of target is to try to make this work? No government. Those are
:26:21. > :26:23.the headline figures that win elections, that people talk about
:26:24. > :26:26.and voters will see. They are not going to change that. The real
:26:27. > :26:30.question is you either injured hundreds of millions of pounds more
:26:31. > :26:33.into the health service. It is not clear or that ends up. Or you make
:26:34. > :26:36.structural reforms that mean you can better track and target where it is
:26:37. > :26:41.needed. You have got to make the changes would likely have to be made
:26:42. > :26:45.was that we are doing things in the wrong way at the moment. We know
:26:46. > :26:49.what the ambitions are. It is how we are going to get there. And I
:26:50. > :26:56.imagine that after this next election, it is incredibly urgent
:26:57. > :27:00.that we address those issues as a country, as a society. We heard the
:27:01. > :27:05.Health Secretary say more needs to be done. That of an understatement?
:27:06. > :27:08.Definitely. She can say that but it does not mean that much. We have an
:27:09. > :27:12.election coming up. After that, we may see a change of direction. They
:27:13. > :27:16.will not make any big decisions before that. Just before we go, we
:27:17. > :27:20.hear that one of Scotland's richest men is to charge people to get into
:27:21. > :27:27.del Keith Kent apart after 7pm in the evening. A minimum of ?10. Is
:27:28. > :27:36.that a bit cheeky? I think it is obscene. It is ?10 for an adult. It
:27:37. > :27:40.is ?20 for a dog walker and ?20 for a family. In the summer, if people
:27:41. > :27:46.do not get one... This country Park is basically the park for the time.
:27:47. > :27:50.It is a bit like saying you would charge ?10 for people to get into
:27:51. > :27:54.Kelvingrove Park or Holyrood Park. I do not know how you can even
:27:55. > :27:59.conceive of that. He says it is to improve security and safety in the
:28:00. > :28:02.evenings. In a park that big, if you want to break in, you can break in.
:28:03. > :28:08.It seems like he is trying to sell a real ticket for the countryside. It
:28:09. > :28:13.seems grossly unfair. A family pass will cost ?20. It is quite a lot in
:28:14. > :28:17.a time of austerity. It is a great deal of money and maybe he just
:28:18. > :28:21.wants to keep certain people out of his part but hopefully the weeks
:28:22. > :28:23.will claim over the wolf and go in anyway.
:28:24. > :28:28.It is his land, he can do what they wants. There is a tiny clothes and
:28:29. > :28:32.Scottish land legislation when it was drafted in the first Scottish
:28:33. > :28:36.Parliament. Because he was charging before it existed, he is allowed to
:28:37. > :28:40.do this. Nobody else in Scotland would be allowed to, and I think
:28:41. > :28:41.that is interesting. There we must leave it. Thank you so much for
:28:42. > :28:42.coming in. That's it for tonight
:28:43. > :28:44.and for this week. I'm back again
:28:45. > :28:47.on Monday, usual time. On Easter week 1916, a band of Irish
:28:48. > :29:05.rebels seized control of Dublin. For six days they held out against
:29:06. > :29:08.the might of the British Empire. Three of the rebels who held Dublin
:29:09. > :29:12.city that week were my uncles I'm going to re-trace my uncles'
:29:13. > :29:20.steps. It's as close as we can hope to get
:29:21. > :29:23.to creation, to the beginning
:29:24. > :29:30.of the universe itself. Not just for the sake of being
:29:31. > :29:31.something