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:00:07. > :00:08.An historic third term for the SNP and the Conservatives

:00:09. > :00:10.overtake Labour as the second largest party in the

:00:11. > :00:30.Even the Prime Minister admits he wouldn't have bet on that.

:00:31. > :00:38.The SNP wins the largest ever number of constituency seats

:00:39. > :00:41.in a Holyrood election - not quite enough,

:00:42. > :00:46.The Tories double their number of seats and push Labour

:00:47. > :01:00.And the Green Party wins six seats, overtaking the Liberal Democrats.

:01:01. > :01:03.Well, if it was derided as a rather dull election campaign,

:01:04. > :01:09.You wait decades for one seismic shift in politics then two

:01:10. > :01:18.The SNP won last night in Holyrood for a remarkable third time.

:01:19. > :01:20.Then the real shocker for many - the Conservatives replaced Labour

:01:21. > :01:25.With me throughout tonight's programme to reflect

:01:26. > :01:27.on all that has happened are the journalist Pennie Taylor.

:01:28. > :01:29.And the law lecturer and blogger Andrew Tickell.

:01:30. > :01:46.Any particular highlights? As you say, after a lacklustre campaign, I

:01:47. > :01:53.thought last night was gripping. For me, I dozed off at several points,

:01:54. > :01:59.but at one point when I woke up, the Dumbarton constituency and clear

:02:00. > :02:03.nerves about what would happen and Jackie Baillie, the shadow Finance

:02:04. > :02:10.Minister defending her seat against an intensive SNP assault. They

:02:11. > :02:17.really wanted it, and it came down to fewer than 100 votes and Jackie

:02:18. > :02:22.Baillie kept her seat and it was nail-biting. Andrew? I like the

:02:23. > :02:27.overwhelming triumph of the SNP in Glasgow and it makes me think of

:02:28. > :02:33.history. Something which people in the party have been fighting for

:02:34. > :02:34.since 1979 and to see that work completed is quite a disturbing as

:02:35. > :02:37.well as exciting thing! Before we go on to chew over

:02:38. > :02:40.all this in more detail, let's have a look at how things

:02:41. > :02:43.unfolded for all the Our political correspondent

:02:44. > :02:46.Nick Eardley has only had a couple of hours' sleep -

:02:47. > :03:06.so dedicated, he's been following Continuity and once unthinkable

:03:07. > :03:11.change. The reasons to cheer for the SNP. A return to Holyrood, the

:03:12. > :03:17.biggest group by some distance. The party won a clean sweep in Glasgow

:03:18. > :03:23.on route to becoming the first to win three Hollywood elections but

:03:24. > :03:28.failed to meet the magic figure of 65. Nicola Sturgeon said she had a

:03:29. > :03:34.personal mandate and would seek to govern Holyrood at the head of a

:03:35. > :03:40.minority administration. With such a large group of MSPs collected I do

:03:41. > :03:45.not intend to seek any formal arrangement with any other parties.

:03:46. > :03:51.However, the government I lead will be an inclusive government. It will

:03:52. > :03:56.be firm on our determination to deliver on commitments we made to

:03:57. > :04:01.the Scottish people and it will also reach out and seek to work with

:04:02. > :04:05.others across the parliament. The key race was always going to be for

:04:06. > :04:12.second place but few predicted how well the Conservatives would do.

:04:13. > :04:20.Dominating in the Borders and seeing the vote climb. Up 16 seats and is

:04:21. > :04:25.now officially the second party at Holyrood. As a minority

:04:26. > :04:29.administration I think the SNP will be forced to listen, learn and

:04:30. > :04:35.improve. I am proud our performance has helped to bring this about. We

:04:36. > :04:41.went into the SN he in check and last night we made good on that

:04:42. > :04:45.promise. By beating them in seats across Scotland and winning seats on

:04:46. > :04:50.the regional list, we have stopped the SN heave from returning that

:04:51. > :04:54.majority. A devastating night for labour and their worst result is

:04:55. > :04:59.Scotland for over a century, relegated to third. Some said the

:05:00. > :05:04.party failed to persuade people of the need to move on. With no

:05:05. > :05:09.appetite for a change in leadership, where now? It is a bad result for

:05:10. > :05:18.the Scottish Labour Party, we lost a third of MSPs. The belief the

:05:19. > :05:22.Scottish Labour Party has ideas and values fit for the future of

:05:23. > :05:27.Scotland. The idea of healing the nation divided along lines of Yes

:05:28. > :05:39.and No. To make different choices from the Tories. For the Greens,

:05:40. > :05:44.Ross Greer, 21 the Parliament's youngest member among their

:05:45. > :05:48.contingent. They won six seats, aching them a fourth force in

:05:49. > :05:52.Holyrood. The Greens will do what we can to provide what Labour haven't,

:05:53. > :05:58.which is constructive, progressive ideas that will push the Scottish

:05:59. > :06:02.Government beyond its comfort zone. We will be constructive and drag

:06:03. > :06:07.them in the right direction and I believe will get results. Despite

:06:08. > :06:12.falling to fifth, strong constituency results for the Liberal

:06:13. > :06:16.Democrats, winning Fife North East and Edinburgh West from the SNP,

:06:17. > :06:21.Knutsford celebration says the leader. People were writing us off

:06:22. > :06:28.before the election but what we have now is we have won seats from the

:06:29. > :06:38.SNP in Edinburgh and from the SNP in Fife and we have big majorities in

:06:39. > :06:43.Orkney and shuttle -- Shetland. That shows the Liberal Democrats are

:06:44. > :06:47.buoyant today after these results. But no electoral breakthrough for

:06:48. > :06:53.Ukip. Have they just missed their best chance of a seat at Holyrood?

:06:54. > :06:58.Some questions for the future. How will the SNP govern as a minority,

:06:59. > :07:04.can Conservatives maintain support, is there any way back for the Labour

:07:05. > :07:06.Party? What the next five years has in store for Scottish politics is

:07:07. > :07:19.unlikely to be boring. A moment that sticks in the mind was

:07:20. > :07:23.the eastward decoration. Held by Labour's Ken Macintosh since the

:07:24. > :07:27.advent of the Scottish Parliament taken by the Conservatives. We have

:07:28. > :07:30.seen swings all night away from Labour towards the Conservatives,

:07:31. > :07:35.and that was the point when you realised it could mean something and

:07:36. > :07:40.it went on and on through the evening. Edinburgh Central was a big

:07:41. > :07:46.one. Ruth Davidson taking the Conservatives from fourth, almost

:07:47. > :07:51.nowhere, to winning that seat. The SNP got more votes than last

:07:52. > :07:56.time but ended up with fewer seats. There has been grumbling among

:07:57. > :08:00.supporters about that. Is the Scottish Parliamentary election

:08:01. > :08:05.system is supposed to be fairer? More votes on higher turnout so

:08:06. > :08:11.numerically more but slightly down in percentage terms. It is a quirk

:08:12. > :08:17.in the system. The 2011 results broke the system, which was designed

:08:18. > :08:22.to avoid majorities. A lot of people in the SNP are disappointed they did

:08:23. > :08:27.not quite make it, only two away, but that is what the system was

:08:28. > :08:33.designed to do. Take the history of the Scottish Parliament as one, it

:08:34. > :08:41.is not a surprise. Andrew, it was a huge win for the S, but might the

:08:42. > :08:47.campaign have backfired, robs people the wrong way? You have to campaign

:08:48. > :08:53.for your party to win. It is hard to see a scenario where they would say

:08:54. > :08:57.give your vote to someone else. You write a number of people are perhaps

:08:58. > :09:02.disappointed with the overall result but the SNP did not get more than

:09:03. > :09:07.50% of the vote and democratically speaking, why should they have more

:09:08. > :09:11.than 50% of seats? Nicola Sturgeon is on record as saying a

:09:12. > :09:18.minority-owned and is arguably a healthy way to govern because you

:09:19. > :09:25.are more closely challenged. It will make for an exciting next few years.

:09:26. > :09:29.If you believe in PR, as the SNP has, it is it a bit cheeky to make a

:09:30. > :09:36.pitch to squeeze out smaller parties? It will be interesting. A

:09:37. > :09:40.lot of people will be all over the results. I want to know how the very

:09:41. > :09:49.young people voted, 16 and 17-year-olds, did turn out? Looking

:09:50. > :09:54.at voter behaviour, why did people choose to vote what they did if they

:09:55. > :10:02.voted differently on the two ballot papers? There is a lot of

:10:03. > :10:06.navel-gazing yet to come. If I were at SNP HQ, I would not be concerned

:10:07. > :10:12.about changing the system, I would look at the seats they failed to

:10:13. > :10:17.win. The two the Lib Dems gained from the SNP and some that the

:10:18. > :10:20.Conservatives took will stop have they maintain them, they might have

:10:21. > :10:27.made it over the finishing line. Nicola Sturgeon said they won a

:10:28. > :10:32.clear mandate, did they? I think they did within a proportional

:10:33. > :10:36.system and we cannot expect them to get a majority most years and I

:10:37. > :10:40.think they did tremendously well. I think we are losing a sense of

:10:41. > :10:47.perspective. 1 million votes is what they manage to attract, half the

:10:48. > :10:53.electorate. That is a stonking performance and we should not lose

:10:54. > :10:58.sight of that, something the Labour Party did not achieve. Any party

:10:59. > :11:03.would be thrilled to end up with the response the SNP got last night. To

:11:04. > :11:08.be in such a strong position after nine years in government is nothing

:11:09. > :11:12.short of remarkable. What difference is losing that overall majority

:11:13. > :11:19.going to make to what the SNP can achieve? I think it will be

:11:20. > :11:24.negligible. The majority they had when the old Scottish Parliament was

:11:25. > :11:32.dissolved, it was marginal. One or two. It is getting quite late! It

:11:33. > :11:37.was quite small. There will be a presiding officer and two people who

:11:38. > :11:42.will take up the deputy presiding Officer positions. There is a fairly

:11:43. > :11:46.good chance the SNP will be able to govern largely as they want to. What

:11:47. > :11:51.will be interesting is whether the Greens can put pressure on from the

:11:52. > :11:56.left. Just how organised opposition to them is from the Conservatives,

:11:57. > :12:02.labour and the Lib Dems. One thing mentioned was the name to persons

:12:03. > :12:06.legislation, something the Conservatives are dead against.

:12:07. > :12:11.Labour came out kind of against in the election and the Lib Dems are

:12:12. > :12:14.largely in favour. It will be interesting to see on those issues

:12:15. > :12:19.whether the opposition parties will club together and try to change what

:12:20. > :12:32.the SNP is doing. Some grumbling about the offensive behaviour, the

:12:33. > :12:44.Football Act. James Kelly had a plan to introduce to repeal the offensive

:12:45. > :12:49.behaviour of football acts. It remains to be seen how these parties

:12:50. > :12:54.play the system. Do the Lib Dems apart from their usual hostility to

:12:55. > :12:58.the SNP and seize the opportunity to be more relevant in terms of the

:12:59. > :13:04.power play in parliament? How does Labour react to defeat? It is not

:13:05. > :13:08.obvious even strategically how they will play the minority situation.

:13:09. > :13:14.Potential for realignment. People are talking about Cabinet changes.

:13:15. > :13:22.There have been interesting people coming into the scene. I am a health

:13:23. > :13:30.specialist. Jeanne Freeman won for the SNP and she is a former health

:13:31. > :13:34.board chair and architect of the National Clinical Strategy and being

:13:35. > :13:40.tipped for significant jobs that might mean we see real action around

:13:41. > :13:46.health in Scotland from within the parliament and that will be very

:13:47. > :13:47.challenging then for the other parties. How do they position

:13:48. > :13:50.themselves around that? Many thought the Scottish

:13:51. > :13:52.Conservative leader was sticking her neck out somewhat,

:13:53. > :13:54.as she confidently predicted the party she leads would overtake

:13:55. > :13:57.Labour in this election. It wasn't only commentators who have

:13:58. > :14:10.admitted to being taken aback. A couple of years ago, somebody came

:14:11. > :14:13.to my office and said, Prime Minister, the Conservatives are

:14:14. > :14:17.going to be the second biggest party in Scotland pretty soon. I would

:14:18. > :14:20.have told them to go away, lie down, stop taking whatever they were

:14:21. > :14:22.taking and come back and tell me what they really thought!

:14:23. > :14:25.So how did the Tories manage to push Labour into third place?

:14:26. > :14:28.Here's what their Scottish leader had to say about their campaign

:14:29. > :14:36.We knew that they were going to build this huge, presidential style

:14:37. > :14:41.campaign around Nicola, all the fans that said, I'm with Nicola, Nicola

:14:42. > :14:45.for First Minister, all the rest of it. People were looking for somebody

:14:46. > :14:51.to take on the colour sturgeon and the SNP. I make no concern about the

:14:52. > :14:56.Gerina campaign -- Nicola Sturgeon. It was anybody who wanted me to do a

:14:57. > :15:01.job for them, to be the stronger opposition and to hold the SNP to

:15:02. > :15:04.account, to say no to a second referendum on independence and get

:15:05. > :15:10.back to the day job, focus on schools and hospitals and public

:15:11. > :15:10.sector and are, me. -- and our economy.

:15:11. > :15:12.So a definite strategy from the Tories.

:15:13. > :15:21.It is a bit rich hearing the presidential Ruth Davidson

:15:22. > :15:24.criticised the presidential Nicola Sturgeon! I would imagine that it

:15:25. > :15:29.came down to the people who were worried about a continued talk of a

:15:30. > :15:34.referendum, there was only one place to put your vote if you were not for

:15:35. > :15:38.that. And that would be with the Conservatives. Because the Labour

:15:39. > :15:43.Party was confused, I think, about its position on that. Was

:15:44. > :15:47.unsurprising? I can't think in recent times in Scotland while we

:15:48. > :15:50.have been used to seeing Labour voters switched direction in such

:15:51. > :15:55.numbers to the Conservatives. They might do it down south, but nothing

:15:56. > :16:05.that we have seen here. I don't know if they did. It looks as if it is

:16:06. > :16:07.ten points down for Labour and ten points up for the Tories, but

:16:08. > :16:10.underneath the skin of these resulted is more complicated than

:16:11. > :16:14.that. It may be different voters. If last night proved anything, it is

:16:15. > :16:18.that we are in a new political landscape. The old kind of tribal

:16:19. > :16:22.allegiances and alliances perhaps don't hold any more, because, you

:16:23. > :16:27.know, there so many different opportunities now. One of the things

:16:28. > :16:29.that struck me was the differences between for instance the

:16:30. > :16:33.Conservatives north and south of the border, and the Labour Party north

:16:34. > :16:38.and self of the border, how much more semidetached they felt and

:16:39. > :16:43.whether they are heading for properly detached. Is it the roof

:16:44. > :16:48.effect? Has she managed to detoxify the Tory brand north of the border

:16:49. > :16:53.-- the roof effect. I remain sceptical, but we will see. Five

:16:54. > :16:58.years ago, we had a campaign arguing for a range of different things. If

:16:59. > :17:01.Nicola Sturgeon irritates you, and a good selection of the public do find

:17:02. > :17:05.her irritating, there is somebody who is going to be rude to her, that

:17:06. > :17:10.is quite compelling if that is your political outlook. There was also an

:17:11. > :17:14.argument about the anxiety, that nationalists were in control of too

:17:15. > :17:18.many could departments of political life in Scotland. That argument cut

:17:19. > :17:21.through quite effectively, even with people who didn't actually agree

:17:22. > :17:25.with their positions. But now that has gone, she has used her

:17:26. > :17:29.independence referendum fears and threats to get herself into the

:17:30. > :17:34.opposition spot, we're going to put Ruth Davidson under the microscope,

:17:35. > :17:38.to see whether always people who voted for her or for the Tory

:17:39. > :17:42.palsies which she is pushing. This is interesting. There has been a lot

:17:43. > :17:45.of taunting of the SNP by the Conservatives in the last few

:17:46. > :17:50.months, how you going to use these new powers at Holyrood, now that the

:17:51. > :17:53.Tories are in opposition, are they going to have to come up with a bit

:17:54. > :17:57.more detail about what they would like to see? I would certainly think

:17:58. > :18:00.so, and I get the impression that Ruth Davidson is really going to

:18:01. > :18:04.enjoy that role. It is extraordinary, I have been hearing

:18:05. > :18:10.over the last day, people, you know, some people really wailing about,

:18:11. > :18:13.you know, the Conservative advance in Scotland, talking about Margaret

:18:14. > :18:17.Thatcher and what they remembered of those years. But actually, do you

:18:18. > :18:22.know what, that is a long time ago now. And there are whole generations

:18:23. > :18:26.of people for whom that is past history and that means nothing. It

:18:27. > :18:30.is an opportunity to realign, do things differently. For those of us

:18:31. > :18:36.long enough in the tooth, we will be watching very closely. Ruth Davidson

:18:37. > :18:42.has called on the SNP to ruled out a second independence referendum. Is

:18:43. > :18:46.she right to say, no majority, no mandate. I don't think so, but it

:18:47. > :18:50.shows that the independence referendum is more important to the

:18:51. > :18:54.political identity of Ruth Davidson than it is the Nicola Sturgeon. It

:18:55. > :18:59.is largely off the table for the fuzzy ball future. We will test

:19:00. > :19:04.whether Ruth Davidson has more to her than this fighting -- of the

:19:05. > :19:06.table for the foreseeable future. Does it matter if it has got her

:19:07. > :19:08.where it has got her? Well, it was a disastrous night

:19:09. > :19:10.for Scottish Labour, Their leader insists she still has

:19:11. > :19:15.a job to do, and there's no Clearly, though, voters didn't

:19:16. > :19:18.like what they were offered from Labour, so where do

:19:19. > :19:20.they go from here? This is what Kezia Dugdale had

:19:21. > :19:31.to say to BBC News earlier today. What we've seen today is the result

:19:32. > :19:36.of a timid campaign from the SNP, that they are back in power but with

:19:37. > :19:40.no majority, an official opposition that will challenge them not to be

:19:41. > :19:44.bolder and do more with the powers of government, but to do less and

:19:45. > :19:47.cut more. I think it is the role of the Labour Party now in Scotland to

:19:48. > :19:51.stand up and continue to make the case for how we can stop the cuts

:19:52. > :19:55.using the powers of this parliament that lies behind me, make different

:19:56. > :19:57.choices from the Tories to stand up for working people the length and

:19:58. > :19:58.breadth of this country. Does that sound like

:19:59. > :20:06.a winning strategy, Andrew? No it doesn't. This is an election

:20:07. > :20:10.where we may well be seeing the strange death of Labour in Scotland,

:20:11. > :20:16.I know it has been said the phrase is overused, but it is to see where

:20:17. > :20:22.laser will -- where Labour will go from here. They are trapped between

:20:23. > :20:25.two Mac monsters. It looks as if the situation, their substance has been

:20:26. > :20:31.eaten away from the SNP in one hand and the Tories on the other. It

:20:32. > :20:36.would be hard-hearted not to have human empathy for Kezia Dugdale

:20:37. > :20:39.today. It was a devastating result for Labour in Scotland. I think it

:20:40. > :20:46.is absolutely essential that buries a cold, hard clinical examination of

:20:47. > :20:50.exactly what went wrong and wide -- that there is. It really is far too

:20:51. > :20:56.early to predict the end of Labour in Scotland. Maybe I am a dinosaur,

:20:57. > :21:01.but for me, you know, politics in Scotland, would it be healthy

:21:02. > :21:07.without Labour there? Eight is an essential voice. They are promoting

:21:08. > :21:11.redistribution of more radical tax policies, we have got to hear those

:21:12. > :21:16.arguments in our parliament, or we are not hearing the whole picture.

:21:17. > :21:19.Doesn't Andrew have a point, that the SNP is now clearly the

:21:20. > :21:23.Independence party, the Conservatives are the defenders of

:21:24. > :21:26.the union, how does Labour distinguish itself? This has been

:21:27. > :21:31.the challenge, and these are the stools that has fallen between all

:21:32. > :21:36.the way through this campaign. There has been no real position for Labour

:21:37. > :21:39.as it stands at the moment in the political landscape I referred to

:21:40. > :21:44.earlier. They have got to find their place, there must be a place for it.

:21:45. > :21:48.I'm not sure it is. I don't say it with malice or cold-hearted nuts,

:21:49. > :21:53.you have to see the human side of it, but I'm not sure that buries a

:21:54. > :21:59.place for Labour in Scottish politics -- that there is. We have

:22:00. > :22:02.the SNP against Ruth Davidson, testing her arguments about right

:22:03. > :22:06.wing solution for this country. Where is the left on the right in

:22:07. > :22:10.that? We have people further to the left in terms of the Green Party. In

:22:11. > :22:14.the Constitution we have the withering of the Labour Party about

:22:15. > :22:18.where they sit. It is very hard to see, unless they pick which monster

:22:19. > :22:22.they go for, it is very hard to see how they survived muddling their way

:22:23. > :22:27.through. You do have to feel for Kezia Dugdale, because she has run

:22:28. > :22:31.in many ways are quite decent campaign, but it has been ghastly.

:22:32. > :22:36.They did set out a very distinctive policy on tax. Is it all about the

:22:37. > :22:41.constitution, or could it be simply that although Scottish the ball may

:22:42. > :22:45.say in opinion polls that they support tax increases -- the

:22:46. > :22:50.Scottish people. But they don't vote for them. At some point, we are

:22:51. > :22:52.going to have to move away from this being a purely constitutional

:22:53. > :22:56.discussion. Because frankly, there is a country to run for the next

:22:57. > :23:00.five years, there are other challenges that we must face in the

:23:01. > :23:06.meantime. Whether or not there is a referendum at some stage. My concern

:23:07. > :23:10.would be that we need a plurality of discussion about the challenges and

:23:11. > :23:14.the solutions to those challenges. And I personally think we would all

:23:15. > :23:20.lose out if we didn't hear the widest possible spectrum of voices.

:23:21. > :23:24.And I really hope that the people who represent Labour in Scotland,

:23:25. > :23:28.diminished though they are today, are still able to contribute to that

:23:29. > :23:33.debate. They certainly are. There are a small number of them, and we

:23:34. > :23:38.were talking about potential deals early. There is significant overlap

:23:39. > :23:41.between the SNP and Labour manifestos. In terms of Social

:23:42. > :23:45.Security powers, for example, developing a humane system for those

:23:46. > :23:49.living with disability. There is constructive efforts for that

:23:50. > :23:52.behalf. The overall position of Labour in politics in this country

:23:53. > :23:55.looks very, very difficult to sustain.

:23:56. > :23:57.Well, the Greens enjoyed their most successful

:23:58. > :24:00.Back then, they had seven MSPs elected, but they faced

:24:01. > :24:02.a Labour-Liberal Democrat coalition government with a decent majority.

:24:03. > :24:04.So this time round, with Nicola Sturgeon saying she'll

:24:05. > :24:08.head a minority government, could the Greens' six MSPs find

:24:09. > :24:14.At 21 years old, one of them, Ross Greer, will become

:24:15. > :24:20.Here's what he had to say on the matter when asked

:24:21. > :24:26.on Reporting Scotland this afternoon.

:24:27. > :24:33.I think this parliamentary term is probably going to see the most

:24:34. > :24:36.influential Green group. In the last term of parliament we worked really

:24:37. > :24:41.well and put pressure on the SNP over fracking and got moratorium, we

:24:42. > :24:48.can push that further and got back with a bang. This time it is about

:24:49. > :24:53.tax and rent, being a much more progressive country. Tackling

:24:54. > :24:55.inequality but raising money. This comes back to finances, that is one

:24:56. > :24:57.thing that we are going to discuss. So, the Greens seem to think they'll

:24:58. > :25:07.have some leverage at the table. They might, they might. You have do

:25:08. > :25:10.emphasise that we have another minority government, and minority

:25:11. > :25:15.government which has a far, far strong mandate than we had in the

:25:16. > :25:18.first minority SNP government. During that time, they had to cobble

:25:19. > :25:23.together a pretty big coalitions in the parliament to get anything done.

:25:24. > :25:26.In this Parliament, all that Nicola Sturgeon needs is the Corporation of

:25:27. > :25:30.one party, it could be the Greens or the Liberal Democrats or the Labour

:25:31. > :25:34.Party, or God help us it could be the Conservative Party on some

:25:35. > :25:37.issues. That perhaps undermines to some extent that confident diagnosis

:25:38. > :25:49.and sent among some Green people that they are going to be holding

:25:50. > :25:52.the whip hand, if you like. Nicola has a range of options, and if she

:25:53. > :25:54.is smart, and we know she is produce Bart, she will play Holyrood like

:25:55. > :25:56.affordable in terms of getting her agenda through. Do you think they

:25:57. > :25:59.will exert influence over things like land reform and tax? There are

:26:00. > :26:02.certainly eloquent and articulate people in there who know a lot about

:26:03. > :26:05.this subject areas. Fracking certainly is going to come up at

:26:06. > :26:11.some point, and the Greens will have a lot to say about that. Again, land

:26:12. > :26:14.reform. But as use a, I think Nicola Sturgeon and her team will be

:26:15. > :26:22.picking and choosing their fight -- as you say. And who they are going

:26:23. > :26:25.to pull in on their side. But also there are deals to be done to get

:26:26. > :26:27.support for those. There will be trade-offs in various directions.

:26:28. > :26:31.What about the Liberal Democrats? Willie Rennie was very chipper

:26:32. > :26:34.earlier, has he reasons to be cheerful? Yes and no I think is the

:26:35. > :26:43.answers to that. He did stalking me well himself, -- he did well

:26:44. > :26:48.himself. Holding the Northern Isles is great. But the list looked pretty

:26:49. > :26:53.gruesome for them. They didn't do tremendously well back, they got a

:26:54. > :26:59.single list member returned. This is a very, very male, pale and stale

:27:00. > :27:05.Parliament we have just elected. In part because of the large number of

:27:06. > :27:09.Tories we have seen elected. 50-50 representation is a long way off,

:27:10. > :27:12.but the gender balance is the same as the last Parliament, we have more

:27:13. > :27:15.work to do on that front. The Lib Dems are example of why you

:27:16. > :27:21.shouldn't write of political parties too early. I mean, if you look at

:27:22. > :27:31.the Orkney result for instance, the Liberal Democrat there won 31%, up

:27:32. > :27:39.on his boat, which was a protest, arguably, against the SNP -- up on

:27:40. > :27:42.his vote. The SNP in Orkney and their attacks on Alistair

:27:43. > :27:45.Carmichael. Again, they have a role in our world and our political

:27:46. > :27:50.world, and they will have a role for the next five years. One thing that

:27:51. > :27:54.is good about this election is that Scotland isn't a 1-party state, it

:27:55. > :27:58.has never been a 1-party state, this is not the Parliament or 1-party

:27:59. > :28:01.state, it is a floral Parliament elected on a proportional system,

:28:02. > :28:08.that is something that we should be pleased about -- ape April

:28:09. > :28:09.Parliament. -- eight floral Parliament.

:28:10. > :28:12.And that's it, after a remarkable 24 hours in Scottish politics.

:28:13. > :28:17.So join him then, usual time.