:00:00. > :00:00.The former Justice Secretary comes under fire after casting doubt
:00:00. > :00:26.on the safety of the Lockerbie bomber's conviction.
:00:27. > :00:33.Kenny MacAskill is accused of double standards for questioning evidence
:00:34. > :00:38.used against the man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing.
:00:39. > :00:41.Why has Scotland had a "spectacular" year in attracting
:00:42. > :00:51.And we hear how towns can use their heritage
:00:52. > :01:01.For seven years as Justice Secretary,
:01:02. > :01:03.Kenny MacAskill maintained the Scottish Government's position -
:01:04. > :01:05.that it did not doubt the safety of the Lockerbie
:01:06. > :01:10.But on this programme last night, he cast doubt on the evidence
:01:11. > :01:14.of the main witness in the trial of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi.
:01:15. > :01:16.And Mr MacAskill said there was every reason to believe
:01:17. > :01:20.Megrahi's conviction might have been overturned on Appeal.
:01:21. > :01:23.That's led campaigners who've long maintained Megrahi's innocence
:01:24. > :01:28.to accuse Mr MacAskill of trying to have it both ways.
:01:29. > :01:31.In a moment, we'll hear from one of those campaigners -
:01:32. > :01:38.but first, a reminder of what Mr MacAskill said last night.
:01:39. > :01:44.actually worth use the prisoner transfer application and I did so
:01:45. > :01:50.because I listened to evidence not simply from victims who were opposed
:01:51. > :01:55.to a transfer but to the Attorney General of the United States because
:01:56. > :01:58.it became quite clear when this had been established, the United Kingdom
:01:59. > :02:02.Government, despite the fact they wouldn't confirm that to me, had
:02:03. > :02:05.given assurances to the United States, the United Nations and to
:02:06. > :02:09.Libya as well as to the relatives that he would serve his sentence in
:02:10. > :02:13.here. I refused the personal transfer agreement but he met the
:02:14. > :02:18.criteria for compassionate release and on that basis I authorised his
:02:19. > :02:23.release. We got nothing out of this. Lockerbie got grief and hardship,
:02:24. > :02:25.the United Nations, the United States, the United Kingdom, Libya,
:02:26. > :02:30.were all involved in brokering because this was a tragedy that
:02:31. > :02:34.befell Lockerbie but Scotland was used as a patsy, especially by the
:02:35. > :02:37.United Kingdom Government. I was a lawyer for 20 years, I've never
:02:38. > :02:43.heard of a witness in Scotland getting more then minuscule
:02:44. > :02:48.expenses. The witness was given millions of pounds. That wasn't
:02:49. > :02:52.known. One of the main witnesses. The main witness. That must cast a
:02:53. > :02:56.doubt about his evidence. I think that it has been an gone. I do
:02:57. > :03:00.know... He was pretty significant. The clothes in the bomb suitcase
:03:01. > :03:05.that linked Megrahi to the bombing, you're not convinced that he did buy
:03:06. > :03:10.that now? The identification wasn't correct, surely that alone would've
:03:11. > :03:14.meant his appeal would've been? I think there is reason to believe the
:03:15. > :03:16.appeal might've been held as what they call unsafe. To Kenny MacAskill
:03:17. > :03:19.speaking to me last night. Listening to that was the author
:03:20. > :03:22.James Robertson, who's a member of the campaign group
:03:23. > :03:30.Justice for Megrahi. Good evening to you. You heard Kenny
:03:31. > :03:35.MacAskill cast doubt on the evidence of the main witness in Megrahi's
:03:36. > :03:38.trial, saying there was every reason his conviction might have been
:03:39. > :03:43.overturned on appeal. Are you surprised to hear him saying that,
:03:44. > :03:48.saying it now? I'm very surprised, actually what he is saying is not
:03:49. > :03:51.just what our campaign group said but what lots of people have been
:03:52. > :03:55.saying for years and years, the evidence on which Megrahi was
:03:56. > :04:00.convicted was unsafe. As he pointed out in the interview last night, Mr
:04:01. > :04:04.McCaskill is now saying the opposite of what he said for seven years when
:04:05. > :04:07.he was cab unit Secretary for Justice, which was the conviction
:04:08. > :04:12.was safe. He specifically says in his book that Megrahi did not buy
:04:13. > :04:16.the clothes. Without that identification of Megrahi as the
:04:17. > :04:21.person who bought the clothes in that shop in Malta, it is impossible
:04:22. > :04:25.to believe that he would be found guilty. He makes a claim in the book
:04:26. > :04:28.to say there were other reasons to think he was involved. That is very
:04:29. > :04:32.strange coming from somebody who said he was a lawyer for 20 years
:04:33. > :04:36.and he was also in charge of our justice system for seven years. That
:04:37. > :04:41.is one of the fundamental principles of justice, that you don't find
:04:42. > :04:44.somebody guilty unless they are found guilty in a court of law
:04:45. > :04:49.beyond all reasonable doubt and Mr McCaskill has said in his book and
:04:50. > :04:54.last night in and in interviews left right and centre, he doubts the
:04:55. > :04:59.safety of the conviction. If you accept, and you do except there are
:05:00. > :05:02.questions about the witness's evidence about the identification,
:05:03. > :05:07.it seems Mr McCaskill does as well, do you think that calls into serious
:05:08. > :05:13.doubt the original conviction? It certainly does. The witness
:05:14. > :05:18.identification of Megrahi was crucial him of the trial judges
:05:19. > :05:23.acknowledged that without that it would've been very hard to have been
:05:24. > :05:29.used the other circumstantial to convict Megrahi on. In fact, the
:05:30. > :05:34.whole Malta connection that the bomb was actually loaded in Malta, which
:05:35. > :05:38.Kenny MacAskill maintains is what happens, becomes very shaky without
:05:39. > :05:43.that identification of Megrahi as the buyer of close. But in his book,
:05:44. > :05:46.Mr MacAskill undermines the campsites to judgment because not
:05:47. > :05:52.only does he say that Mr Megrahi didn't buy the close, which the
:05:53. > :05:55.court city to but he said the coaccused got the bomb on the plane
:05:56. > :05:58.and the judges quite clearly said there in their summing up that there
:05:59. > :06:01.is no evidence that he was even at the airport on the morning that the
:06:02. > :06:08.bomb was supposedly loaded on the plane in both Malta. You might be
:06:09. > :06:11.surprised using all this now seeing as he prepared to take a different
:06:12. > :06:16.position in office, but isn't it helpful to your case standing up to
:06:17. > :06:19.say this, perhaps he feels freer to say it now? It's helpful to our case
:06:20. > :06:24.if somebody who is cabinet justice, who was cabinet secretary for
:06:25. > :06:26.Justice, saying what we said for years and years, but there is a
:06:27. > :06:31.certain amount of double standards here. As I said, while in office, he
:06:32. > :06:35.maintained completely the opposite. I don't think he can have it both
:06:36. > :06:39.ways. Either he has changed his mind since he left office or actually he
:06:40. > :06:42.believed what he is now saying all along, in which case he wasn't being
:06:43. > :06:45.very strict with the people of Scotland all the years that he was
:06:46. > :06:50.in charge of our justice system. I think that leads onto the wider
:06:51. > :06:57.question, what other principles of justice was Mr MacAskill seeking to
:06:58. > :07:01.uphold? He made clear in the interview ended his book, coming out
:07:02. > :07:06.tomorrow, that he thought Scotland was used as a patsy by the UK
:07:07. > :07:09.Government and all of this. So is it helpful that he is highlighting the
:07:10. > :07:16.broader geopolitical situation, do you think? None of that is new
:07:17. > :07:17.really, we all knew there were all kinds of international and
:07:18. > :07:24.diplomatic ramifications going on, we knew that the US in UK
:07:25. > :07:27.governments had their own interests in reestablishing relationships with
:07:28. > :07:30.Libya and so on. So I don't think anything he is saying there is
:07:31. > :07:36.particularly new or particularly interesting, but what it does do I
:07:37. > :07:42.think I sort of hammering home this idea that Scotland was a patsy to
:07:43. > :07:44.the UK and US, he is diverting attention away from the one thing
:07:45. > :07:48.that needs to happen which is that we in Scotland need to get to grips
:07:49. > :07:53.with this massive failing that the Lockerbie investigation represents
:07:54. > :07:55.in our own justice system. He consistently says, we cannot do
:07:56. > :07:59.anything about that, we cannot have an inquiry because we need to be
:08:00. > :08:02.able to call people in from other parts of the world, but that's not
:08:03. > :08:08.true. The one thing you can say about the Scottish legal system is
:08:09. > :08:11.that it is Scotland's and we have the ability to make sure that if it
:08:12. > :08:16.is going wrong, we investigate that and put it right. But he is
:08:17. > :08:19.defending the Scottish justice system quite passionately.
:08:20. > :08:21.He says the police prosecutors, Scottish courts, all acted
:08:22. > :08:26.honorably. Is that not how you see a? I think
:08:27. > :08:29.that remains to be tested. There are so many things that are wrong with
:08:30. > :08:35.the investigation and trial that I think there is severe doubt to that
:08:36. > :08:41.is the case, Justice for Megrahi has submitted a series of allegations to
:08:42. > :08:45.the police some three years ago suggesting that there could've been
:08:46. > :08:49.elements of criminality in aspects of both the investigation and trial.
:08:50. > :08:54.Some of the things that Mr MacAskill says in his book directly relates to
:08:55. > :08:59.those very allegations we made three years ago. It seems to be that he
:09:00. > :09:01.you can't again, he can't on the one hand say that everything was
:09:02. > :09:07.perfectly functioning and at the same time say that in fact the
:09:08. > :09:11.conviction was unsafe. So that police Scotland investigation into
:09:12. > :09:13.those allegations that the group made is still ongoing. Do you think
:09:14. > :09:19.there is anything that Mr MacAskill is said so far that should form part
:09:20. > :09:21.of the police inquiry? Hill I think there is plenty in the book that is
:09:22. > :09:27.directly relevant to those allegations and in fact we have
:09:28. > :09:30.today reported the contents of the book to police Scotland, saying that
:09:31. > :09:33.we think it is very important that that forms part of their
:09:34. > :09:37.investigations as they come to conclude this operation.
:09:38. > :09:41.We certainly think that if there are Mr MacAskill, as he says in his
:09:42. > :09:44.book, has information and evidence that hasn't been in a court before,
:09:45. > :09:48.he should be taking up to the police as a witness. It he doesn't do that,
:09:49. > :09:52.we think the police should investigate him as a witness. In his
:09:53. > :09:55.book, he puts forward his own theory as to what he thinks actually
:09:56. > :10:01.happen. What do you think of the evidence that he puts forward their?
:10:02. > :10:05.It's an interesting book because, as he said, as a lawyer of 20 years
:10:06. > :10:08.standing, a trained lawyer and someone who was cabinet secretary
:10:09. > :10:12.for justice, he doesn't supply a huge amount of back-up information
:10:13. > :10:17.in terms of references and footnotes to the way he described what
:10:18. > :10:21.happened. So I would question some of what he is saying there.
:10:22. > :10:24.Nevertheless, there are certain bits of information in there that I think
:10:25. > :10:27.the police certainly need to investigate to find out whether the
:10:28. > :10:29.information that Mr MacAskill says he has actually stands up. OK, thank
:10:30. > :10:31.you very much. It's been a record-breaking year
:10:32. > :10:35.for inward investment in Scotland. A survey by professional services
:10:36. > :10:38.firm EY found 119 foreign direct investment projects
:10:39. > :10:43.were secured in 2015. The growth rate here was more
:10:44. > :10:57.than double the increase The survey found 51% increase in
:10:58. > :11:03.investment for 20 15th in the year before, compared with 20% for the UK
:11:04. > :11:08.as a whole. In fact, Scotland surpassed South East England to come
:11:09. > :11:12.second only behind Greater London. The survey found that the greatest
:11:13. > :11:16.source of foreign investment was software projects. Next, with a
:11:17. > :11:21.sixfold increase, came business services. And in this city rankings,
:11:22. > :11:27.Edinburgh landed the third spot behind and Manchester. The US
:11:28. > :11:32.continues to be Scotland's main investor. Interestingly, neither
:11:33. > :11:35.China nor India ranks as top ten investors in Scotland, despite both
:11:36. > :11:40.those countries being a big source of investment for the UK as a whole.
:11:41. > :11:43.Is this increase in investment because the uncertainty of the
:11:44. > :11:45.independence referendum is behind us and would continue to deliver
:11:46. > :11:47.economic growth for Scotland? Well, to answer those questions,
:11:48. > :11:49.earlier this evening I was joined by Mark Harvey,
:11:50. > :12:02.Senior Partner at EY. Investment here is more than doubled
:12:03. > :12:06.the UK as a whole last year. By contrast with the relentlessly
:12:07. > :12:12.gloomy news we been getting about jobs, about growth, in Scotland,
:12:13. > :12:15.isn't it? I think it is fantastic news for Scotland, 190 projects have
:12:16. > :12:19.come here in the past 12 months. The majority of those are from new
:12:20. > :12:24.investors coming into Scotland which I think bodes well for the future.
:12:25. > :12:28.Over 5000 new jobs. I think what it demonstrates is that Scotland, as an
:12:29. > :12:32.economy and a location, is punching above its weight. It's a location
:12:33. > :12:35.where global businesses want to come and invest. I think we hear what the
:12:36. > :12:38.conversation about the Northern powerhouse. I think we've got a
:12:39. > :12:42.Scottish powerhouse in terms of being able to attract great
:12:43. > :12:45.companies to come and invest in Scotland. What you put this
:12:46. > :12:50.record-breaking investment in two and what sort of money are we
:12:51. > :12:53.talking about? Quite significant sums. Organisations who have come to
:12:54. > :12:56.Scotland, we fasten the question, what actually makes a difference?
:12:57. > :13:00.There are two clear reasons that they always cite.
:13:01. > :13:02.One is infrastructure and in particular transport, and I think we
:13:03. > :13:06.are doing better in that regard. You can always do better, but I
:13:07. > :13:08.think we are doing well, our airports and road and rail
:13:09. > :13:09.infrastructure is getting better, and I think the other factor that
:13:10. > :13:24.they often cite is the quality of people that they
:13:25. > :13:27.can recruit here. The quality of people coming out of
:13:28. > :13:29.universities, and indeed the way that universities collaborate with
:13:30. > :13:32.companies where they come to work in Scotland, they see that as a
:13:33. > :13:33.positive aspect of coming to work in Scotland.
:13:34. > :13:37.If you look at Amber University, they are producing lots of good
:13:38. > :13:40.graduates in this area. We see lots of software projects coming to
:13:41. > :13:44.Edinburgh. I think we have got a cluster forming in Scotland around
:13:45. > :13:48.software, we've got some unicorns that we know about with the likes of
:13:49. > :13:52.sky 's banner, and now we've got inward investors, large global
:13:53. > :13:55.software companies also wanted to come to Scotland to invest alongside
:13:56. > :13:58.our indigenous businesses and to use the high-quality people that we've
:13:59. > :14:10.got coming out of the universities here in Scotland. There was cannot
:14:11. > :14:13.-- there was claim and counterclaim about investment during the
:14:14. > :14:21.referendum. As that had an impact on companies? Scotland has been the
:14:22. > :14:31.number one or number two performing region outside of London. The
:14:32. > :14:38.question around the perception of Scotland is really important. If we
:14:39. > :14:43.look back 12 months, we as investors what was important to them and asked
:14:44. > :14:49.them to compare it to the rest of the UK. 6% of people said Scotland
:14:50. > :14:55.was their preferred location. We put that down the things like the Ryder
:14:56. > :15:00.Cup, the Commonwealth Games and the referendum and Scotland was front
:15:01. > :15:06.and centre of minds on the global stage. But sentiment has dropped
:15:07. > :15:10.back so only 4% on the global stage. If there is a message going for it
:15:11. > :15:15.is that Scotland needs to maintain its brand on the global stage. What
:15:16. > :15:21.countries should Scotland be targeting? India and China do not
:15:22. > :15:28.rank in the top ten of countries investing in Scotland. The US has
:15:29. > :15:32.always been the major country where investment has originated from and
:15:33. > :15:36.we should never forget that and continue to invest there. Scotland
:15:37. > :15:40.punches the rest of the UK in terms of attracting investment from the
:15:41. > :15:46.US. When you get countries investing in the rest of the UK and Europe,
:15:47. > :15:50.are perhaps not investing as much in Scotland, India and China are in the
:15:51. > :15:55.top five for the UK but are not in the top ten for Scotland. That is an
:15:56. > :15:58.area where we should focus on building relationships, build trust
:15:59. > :16:04.so that organisations and companies want to invest in Scotland. Greater
:16:05. > :16:08.London still attracted more than four times the number of companies
:16:09. > :16:14.in the whole of Scotland. Is there anything that can be done about that
:16:15. > :16:18.pull towards London? The statistics this year are a landmark in terms of
:16:19. > :16:23.the devolution agenda across the whole of the UK and the performance
:16:24. > :16:28.of the regions. Of all of the growth and foreign direct investment in the
:16:29. > :16:34.UK, the vast majority has come in regions outside London and that is
:16:35. > :16:38.the first in a number of steps. That is why it is important that Scotland
:16:39. > :16:42.is number one region because, as investment comes outside of London,
:16:43. > :16:45.for us to be an attractive location is important.
:16:46. > :16:48.Now - Scotland's largest town, Paisley, is vying to be
:16:49. > :16:51.Back in the 19th century, it was the epicentre
:16:52. > :16:53.of the textile industry and political radicalism.
:16:54. > :16:55.After years of post-industrial decline, it's been on a mission
:16:56. > :17:02.to revitalise its biggest asset - its heritage architecture.
:17:03. > :17:06.Today Historic Environment Scotland - the new public body designed
:17:07. > :17:10.to make us all care more about Scotland's history -
:17:11. > :17:12.launched its national strategy there.
:17:13. > :17:15.So what lessons might Paisley have for the rest of us?
:17:16. > :17:32.In the heart of the Scottish Highlands begins the road to sky and
:17:33. > :17:37.the other islands of the Hebrides. The bluest of skies, the greenest of
:17:38. > :17:41.forests. Towering mountains and splendid isolation. The charms of
:17:42. > :17:46.the Scottish landscape are well known. But what if you are living in
:17:47. > :17:50.a town like Paisley. Once an industrial powerhouse, but in recent
:17:51. > :17:56.years, fallen on hard times. It is also known for its architecture.
:17:57. > :18:00.Today, the new body looking after injured buildings in Scotland
:18:01. > :18:03.decided to take out its three-year plan at Paisley Abbey. It says
:18:04. > :18:10.Heritage can help drive economic prosperity. The heritage sector is
:18:11. > :18:14.worth ?2.3 billion to the economy. Scottish heritage is for absolutely
:18:15. > :18:18.everybody and we want more Scots to get involved in their heritage,
:18:19. > :18:29.whether that be at a local level or at a national level. It is a product
:18:30. > :18:38.of Clark and company. In the worst... Clerks of Paisley produced
:18:39. > :18:43.materials for high fashion Gardening -- garments. The industry changed.
:18:44. > :18:47.The Clarks factory is long gone. Many of the mills that made Paisley
:18:48. > :18:51.and international name have been converted. But it can has not had
:18:52. > :18:58.its troubles to seek in recent years. It has had a reputation for
:18:59. > :19:03.deprivation and violence. Tell me about the reputation Paisley had and
:19:04. > :19:07.where are you now? Is he didn't have a good reputation but it is changing
:19:08. > :19:11.for the better. What we are doing now is celebrating the assets that
:19:12. > :19:16.Paisley has and it has fantastic assets. It has heritage, it has the
:19:17. > :19:22.highest concentration of listed buildings outside Edinburgh. An easy
:19:23. > :19:26.example is right behind us. 18 months ago that was an empty
:19:27. > :19:31.building, now there are 12 flats, a new restaurant going in the bottom.
:19:32. > :19:36.It must be difficult for councils who have hard choices to make to put
:19:37. > :19:42.money into heritage products. This is about investing in growth.
:19:43. > :19:46.Councils have become used to the idea of having strict financial
:19:47. > :19:53.circumstances. What we have is use the limited resources we have two
:19:54. > :19:57.generate income. They are still serving cappuccinos here at 9pm. The
:19:58. > :20:01.owner of this business says that was unheard of in Paisley. Business is
:20:02. > :20:07.good. The fourth adventure has just opened. A lot of people are coming
:20:08. > :20:11.in and bringing attention to Paisley. We have Paisley Abbey, the
:20:12. > :20:17.Paisley Museum is looking to do a move down the high street. We are
:20:18. > :20:21.valuing these assets. People are starting to look at that and talk
:20:22. > :20:25.about that and talk about good things about Paisley. Paisley had a
:20:26. > :20:31.bad reputation, especially the town centre, now there is such an era of
:20:32. > :20:35.positivity. We are seeing new bars and restaurants. The university has
:20:36. > :20:39.been a massive thing. It has really grown. It is bringing a lot of
:20:40. > :20:46.international students which gives it a university field. The three
:20:47. > :20:50.year strategy is not just about injured buildings. Maps,
:20:51. > :20:53.photographs, sculpture are all included. Historic environment
:20:54. > :20:57.Scotland wants is to get involved from enjoying your local park to
:20:58. > :20:59.voluntary and community groups. Heritage is all around us. While
:21:00. > :21:04.others follow his example? Joining me to discuss some
:21:05. > :21:06.of the main stories of today are journalists Lynsey Bews
:21:07. > :21:16.and Dominic Hinde... Let's start with our top story,
:21:17. > :21:24.Lockerbie. A story that never goes away. What do you make of the
:21:25. > :21:28.fittest intervention? It has caused a stir and it has brought Lockerbie,
:21:29. > :21:34.the story that never goes away, right back into the headlines again.
:21:35. > :21:38.He that of confusing contradictions in this book. It seems I am yet to
:21:39. > :21:42.read it but from what has been there are so far, he seems to be
:21:43. > :21:46.contradicting what he previously said about the McGrady conviction
:21:47. > :21:51.and contradicting some of what was said by the Scottish Government
:21:52. > :21:55.about this transfer agreement. Having had a sneak preview of the
:21:56. > :21:59.book, he is questioning some of the evidence about the main witness and
:22:00. > :22:08.still saying the conviction stands in some way. Is it fair he is
:22:09. > :22:13.accused of double standards here? The weirdest thing about this book
:22:14. > :22:23.is that he doesn't offer any better alternatives. He has written a book
:22:24. > :22:26.to save the... What he has not done is present and the evidence to the
:22:27. > :22:32.contrary. We know the conviction might be unsafe that is not the
:22:33. > :22:37.issue here. He has chosen to say this without really justifying his
:22:38. > :22:44.decision. I wonder if some of the revelations are surprising. He was
:22:45. > :22:49.talking about when they were trying to make the Scottish Government the
:22:50. > :22:52.involved in the prisoner transfer agreement the Scottish Government
:22:53. > :22:56.took the view they would try to extract concessions from the UK
:22:57. > :23:03.Government on their rifles and slopping out. It sounded a little
:23:04. > :23:07.bit groggy. It does contradict what Alex Salmond previously told us. He
:23:08. > :23:12.seemed to suggest that the Scottish Government had no involvement in any
:23:13. > :23:17.of those grubby dealings as you put them. No one is coming out of this
:23:18. > :23:22.looking particularly good. Certainly not the UK Government, not the US
:23:23. > :23:28.government, but not the Scottish Government either from some of the
:23:29. > :23:33.things I have read. Kenny MacAskill would say, actually, this would go
:23:34. > :23:38.ahead anyway, so we thought we would get these concessions, but it does
:23:39. > :23:42.sound a little curious. Is it brave attempt to stand up and say this is
:23:43. > :23:46.actually the sort of pressure we were under at the time? The other
:23:47. > :23:52.governments were not being honest about this. It is understandable
:23:53. > :23:56.they were under pressure. The fact it ended up as a Scottish case was
:23:57. > :24:01.bound to an accident of geography and the fact the plane came down
:24:02. > :24:04.over Lockerbie and not 50 miles further south. The problem is that
:24:05. > :24:10.you have a government which doesn't have many hours trying to negotiate
:24:11. > :24:16.and it is offered a bargaining piece and they tried to make the best of
:24:17. > :24:19.it. I think it was a difficult situation. There is no reason for
:24:20. > :24:27.him to sit this now. It seems odd timing. Let's move on to fracking.
:24:28. > :24:31.Campaigners are considering a legal challenge after approval was granted
:24:32. > :24:34.by councillors in North Yorkshire yesterday. It might give hope to
:24:35. > :24:44.some of those who support the industry in Scotland. Did you think
:24:45. > :24:48.he is right to be optimistic? I am not so sure he is ready to be
:24:49. > :24:51.optimistic. I think the moratorium will be in place for a good while
:24:52. > :24:55.longer before the Scottish Government makes a decision on
:24:56. > :25:00.whether it will press ahead with fracking in Scotland. I think the
:25:01. > :25:05.move from the energy minister into a different breed, Nicola Sturgeon
:25:06. > :25:09.previously said she is sceptical about fracking. It is Nicola
:25:10. > :25:15.Sturgeon who will call the shots on this one. Let's not forget that when
:25:16. > :25:20.the Tories might beat the opposition now, and in power in Westminster,
:25:21. > :25:24.you have then got later, the Liberal Democrats and the Greens saying they
:25:25. > :25:29.are against it. Is the mood music that this will be a permanent ban?
:25:30. > :25:34.It does provoke quite a lot of passion in people? We might be
:25:35. > :25:39.looking at a permanent moratorium in the sense that the SNP will not lift
:25:40. > :25:43.the moratorium because it is politically unpalatable for many of
:25:44. > :25:47.their new members for whom fracking is an emotive issue. On the other
:25:48. > :25:52.hand, they will keep the door open in that five or six years, if they
:25:53. > :25:59.win another term and the argument dies down then perhaps then they
:26:00. > :26:03.will go for it. Moving on, there were testy exchanges during Mark
:26:04. > :26:08.Carney's evidence to the Treasury Select Committee. Quizzed by the
:26:09. > :26:11.food leave campaigner Jacob Rees-Mogg on whether there was undue
:26:12. > :26:13.influence from the Treasury the governor of the Bank of England
:26:14. > :26:24.insisted there had not. Those of the judgments of the nine
:26:25. > :26:27.independent members of the monetary policy committee. The political area
:26:28. > :26:36.where you would not come into general election, give a G. This is
:26:37. > :26:41.not a general election. This is still a popular vote across the
:26:42. > :26:46.country. As the Prime Minister has said, it is more important than the
:26:47. > :26:51.general election. We have a responsibility to discharge our
:26:52. > :26:56.remit and we have a broader responsibility to the British
:26:57. > :26:58.people. Eight other similarities to the conversations that were going on
:26:59. > :27:04.here during the independence referendum. That is right and I
:27:05. > :27:08.wonder why Mark Carney was losing patience there with that of
:27:09. > :27:12.vice-chairman. He is making the point that it is right for the Bank
:27:13. > :27:17.of England to give excuse than this one. It is not a political view, it
:27:18. > :27:21.is economic analysis and it would be wrong -- strange if the bank of
:27:22. > :27:25.England had nothing to say about the economic impact of the UK leaving
:27:26. > :27:29.the EU. It is not a general election, it is a referendum on a
:27:30. > :27:36.single issue. We expect to hear from the back of England on this. Does
:27:37. > :27:43.that make a difference? I think it does to an extent. When it is such a
:27:44. > :27:46.big decision there is a responsibility for academics and
:27:47. > :27:49.other public figures who have informed views to contribute and
:27:50. > :27:54.compiled with recent opinions. It contributes to a good debate. There
:27:55. > :27:58.we will have to leave it. Thank you for coming in this evening.
:27:59. > :28:01.Andrew will be here with you tomorrow night, usual time.
:28:02. > :28:04.Until then,we leave you with actor Burt Kwouk who died today aged 85,
:28:05. > :28:06.and one of his best known characters, Inspector Clouseau's
:28:07. > :28:07.manservant Cato in the Pink Panther films.
:28:08. > :28:49.One moment please. For you. I really congratulate you. It was very good.
:28:50. > :28:56.Your flight is undone. And so, my friend, are you.
:28:57. > :29:05.People were afraid of her political convictions -
:29:06. > :29:10.Dear Mama, last night we had nearly four inches of rain.
:29:11. > :29:14.People can be seen going about fetching bread and other things
:29:15. > :29:17.on floating sofas or wooden bedsteads.
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