:00:00. > :00:27.Why are so few doctors choosing to work in general practice?
:00:28. > :00:40.Doctors press the Government for more money ringfenced
:00:41. > :00:43.As MSPs pay their respects to the Orlando
:00:44. > :00:46.victims, calls for gay equality to be actively promoted
:00:47. > :00:50.And students give us their take on how a Brexit vote could affect
:00:51. > :01:02.The number of GP practices in Scotland with a vacancy
:01:03. > :01:06.for a doctor has doubled in just two years.
:01:07. > :01:10.Now one in five practices has an unfilled post.
:01:11. > :01:12.Yet one in five training places for GPs also went
:01:13. > :01:18.So why aren't more Scottish medical students choosing to work
:01:19. > :01:24.I'm joined now by the Chair of the BMA's Scottish GP Committee,
:01:25. > :01:27.Dr Alan McDevitt, and Dominic Waugh, who's a fourth-year medical student
:01:28. > :01:39.Welcome to both of you. Doctor McDevitt, the Health Secretary says
:01:40. > :01:44.Scotland has the highest number of GPs per patient in the UK so how big
:01:45. > :01:50.a problem do you think this is, the number of vacancies? After 27 years
:01:51. > :01:55.in general practice this is the first time we have had the risk of
:01:56. > :02:00.practices closing because we are unable to recruit. It is as serious
:02:01. > :02:04.as that, it is the first time that has happened in my lifestyle. We
:02:05. > :02:10.don't have as many threats of closure as in England but that
:02:11. > :02:19.doesn't mean it is not serious. There is an ?85 million dry Marie
:02:20. > :02:26.care fund, ?2 million being spent on these staff shortages. -- primary
:02:27. > :02:34.care. Is it just a question of funding? No, I think it is a range
:02:35. > :02:41.of issues. People are being put off for a variety of ways from joining
:02:42. > :02:45.us so we have a big job to change that to attract the brightest young
:02:46. > :02:49.doctors into general practice. Dominic Waugh, you are studying and
:02:50. > :02:56.you don't want to do general practice, why not? When I have been
:02:57. > :03:00.on placements and other specialties I have enjoyed what I have done.
:03:01. > :03:04.There is a bit of a misconception in medical school that general practice
:03:05. > :03:10.is the soft option but as soon as you spend some time in general
:03:11. > :03:13.practice and see the work that GPs do alongside allied health
:03:14. > :03:18.professionals you discover it is false and it is quite a rewarding
:03:19. > :03:23.career. What doesn't appeal to you from what you have experienced so
:03:24. > :03:28.far? It is not a matter of things not appealing, it is just that you
:03:29. > :03:32.find other things more interesting. Everybody has their own interests.
:03:33. > :03:35.The students I have met who are interested in general practice very
:03:36. > :03:40.much want to do it and the question is how we can encourage other
:03:41. > :03:45.students to have a similar viewpoint. Honestly, though, how
:03:46. > :03:50.would you say general practices seen among medical students? Too early.
:03:51. > :03:58.It is seen as the soft option. -- poorly. It will be an uphill battle
:03:59. > :04:03.to convince colleges -- for colleges to convince students otherwise. What
:04:04. > :04:07.do you think we can do to attract medical students like Dominic? A lot
:04:08. > :04:11.of this is about the status within the medical profession and one of
:04:12. > :04:15.the problems is that general practice is not well represented
:04:16. > :04:18.among the teaching. There is inherently a lack of role models
:04:19. > :04:28.within general practice within academia. And it is pretty stressful
:04:29. > :04:33.and hard work presumably. It is, and that is the message that is putting
:04:34. > :04:43.people off, the intensity of the job, we are almost hoisted by our
:04:44. > :04:47.own success. The work load involved in supporting people with a range of
:04:48. > :04:50.problems does mean that the intensity is high and the day is
:04:51. > :04:54.longer but I think we are ahead of the game in Scotland in discussing
:04:55. > :04:58.with the government how to change the future to make it an attraction
:04:59. > :05:07.Willett attractive option for medical students. -- unattractive
:05:08. > :05:13.option. For many years we have talked about primary care, which is
:05:14. > :05:17.important as a concept, and it is also nurses and health visitors and
:05:18. > :05:22.social care staff and that is important in achieving the right
:05:23. > :05:25.care for patients. In amongst that general practice is an important
:05:26. > :05:29.element that is often forgotten and there comes a time you have to say
:05:30. > :05:32.you have to know the investment will go to the right place. So often
:05:33. > :05:38.money goes to primary care and Little reaches the GP's surgery. Do
:05:39. > :05:43.you think it is all about money, Dominic Moore or do you think there
:05:44. > :05:53.can be changes in the way it is taught? -- Dominic, or do you.
:05:54. > :05:59.Depending upon which medical school you are at it is structured
:06:00. > :06:02.differently but you spend far less time on primary care so you have
:06:03. > :06:06.less time to fall in love with it and that is maybe an issue, the fact
:06:07. > :06:13.that the difference in practice is not reflected in the teaching.
:06:14. > :06:14.Dominic Waugh and Doctor Alan McDevitt, thank you very much for
:06:15. > :06:17.coming in. Now, as more details continue
:06:18. > :06:19.to emerge of Sunday's massacre in an Orlando nightclub,
:06:20. > :06:22.one surgeon says he "would not be The attack, in which 49 people
:06:23. > :06:26.were killed and 53 were wounded, is the worst mass shooting
:06:27. > :06:38.in recent US history. Across the world, tributes continued
:06:39. > :06:42.to be paid to the 49 people killed on Sunday morning. It was a sombre
:06:43. > :06:45.mood at the Scottish Parliament today as MSPs held a minute's
:06:46. > :06:57.silence in honour of the victims. The number of reported hate crimes
:06:58. > :07:02.relating to sexual orientation in Scotland is up 20% on the year
:07:03. > :07:07.before. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said more needed to be
:07:08. > :07:11.done. Scotland is making progress in becoming a fairer and more equal
:07:12. > :07:15.society but we will only achieve that if we face up to the areas
:07:16. > :07:19.where there is work to be done and I give and commitment to Parliament
:07:20. > :07:26.that this government will do that. It was a session marked by in
:07:27. > :07:30.motion. For some, it was personal. We have stayed here too often in
:07:31. > :07:36.recent years as such extreme hate has shocked us all but we know our
:07:37. > :07:40.country has not been immune from attack spawn of twisted ideology.
:07:41. > :07:44.This attack comes during the holy month of Ramadan when millions of
:07:45. > :07:51.Muslims across the world are making personal sacrifices to recognise
:07:52. > :07:57.those less fortunate. Like the First Minister said, they are saying
:07:58. > :08:03.loudly and peacefully, not in our name. Many of us joined together in
:08:04. > :08:07.glass yesterday. I have only ever felt joy seeing the rainbow flag
:08:08. > :08:16.from the city Chambers and I can't express how it felt to see it at
:08:17. > :08:22.half-mast. For the Scottish Greens, -- the Scottish Greens' Patrick
:08:23. > :08:28.Harvie, it was a chance to suggest LGBT issues could be taught across
:08:29. > :08:32.Scottish schools. How long will it take for Scottish schools to promote
:08:33. > :08:40.the dignity of all of their people including LGBT people. I am not
:08:41. > :08:46.going to stand here and off the top of my head give timescales that I
:08:47. > :08:49.will give a commitment that I as First Minister, this government,
:08:50. > :08:54.will continue to work with campaigns like that. Details are still
:08:55. > :08:57.emerging about Sunday's terror attack but what lessons might be
:08:58. > :09:02.learned when it comes to tolerance and acceptance in our own
:09:03. > :09:03.communities? Joining me now to talk about this
:09:04. > :09:15.is Colin Macfarlane from the LGBT You heard Patrick Harvie asking when
:09:16. > :09:19.all schools will actively promote equality for LGBT pupils. Do you
:09:20. > :09:23.think more needs to be done in Scottish schools? Yes and I
:09:24. > :09:28.completely agree with what Patrick was saying. We have come a long way
:09:29. > :09:32.in the last few years in Scotland but in schools there is still a
:09:33. > :09:39.tremendous amount of work to do. 99% of young people still here
:09:40. > :09:44.homophobic language in classrooms, only 16% of teachers have had
:09:45. > :09:52.training to talk about LGBT I issues. It is now 16 years since
:09:53. > :09:55.section 28 was abolished but still far too many young people go to
:09:56. > :09:59.school terrified because they are being bullied for who they are so I
:10:00. > :10:02.welcome the First Minister's commitment to work with
:10:03. > :10:07.organisations to campaign on this but we need action and not
:10:08. > :10:10.commitment so I would like to see further commitments about when we
:10:11. > :10:14.are going to see every school and teacher in Scotland being able to
:10:15. > :10:17.talk about these issues with competence. She stopped short in the
:10:18. > :10:21.chamber of committing to any timescale in any of this. What
:10:22. > :10:26.exactly do you think she should be doing? We need more visible
:10:27. > :10:30.leadership and more statements like that from the First Minister, her
:10:31. > :10:36.words were bold and they spoke I think for the whole of Scotland that
:10:37. > :10:41.it shouldn't take a massacre of 49 LGBT people for this kind of
:10:42. > :10:46.statement. We need more from our government around why this is such a
:10:47. > :10:49.crucial issue. If we are tackling hate and hate crime, education is
:10:50. > :10:53.absolutely the crux to do that. Young people need to feel safe and
:10:54. > :10:59.secure, people in school need to learn about the fact that LGBT I
:11:00. > :11:02.people exist and need respect and teachers need to feel empowered and
:11:03. > :11:06.confident about teaching these issues, that is not happening in
:11:07. > :11:10.every school in Scotland and it needs to. Everybody is horrified by
:11:11. > :11:16.what happened in Orlando but it is a difficult line to tread, talking
:11:17. > :11:19.about actively promoting this in Scottish schools, because not all
:11:20. > :11:26.parents agree with you. It is not about promoting and I object to that
:11:27. > :11:30.language because that takes us back to section 28, it is about talking
:11:31. > :11:37.about the fact that LGBT I people exist and should be treated with
:11:38. > :11:41.dignity. You know that that makes some parents uncomfortable whether
:11:42. > :11:49.it is faith issues or general homophobia. Every young people
:11:50. > :11:55.person should feel safe and it is the job of education authorities and
:11:56. > :11:58.teachers to do that but too many young people say they don't have the
:11:59. > :12:06.confidence to talk about these issues, 75% of primary school
:12:07. > :12:10.teachers say they feel they can't talk about these issues in the
:12:11. > :12:14.classroom. We will never tackle issues like hate crime and prejudice
:12:15. > :12:19.and less we can talk about this and all teachers can feel confident so
:12:20. > :12:24.we are asking the Scottish Government to talk about a long-term
:12:25. > :12:29.strategy so all teachers can feel empowered to talk about this in the
:12:30. > :12:33.classroom. How do you feel personally after everything that has
:12:34. > :12:38.happened in Orlando? What is it like today in Scotland to be a gay man in
:12:39. > :12:42.the wake of all of that? Personally, and that question has thrown me a
:12:43. > :12:49.bit, I feel more vulnerable now than I have done for a very, very long
:12:50. > :12:54.time and my heart actually really breaks, excuse me, for young people
:12:55. > :12:58.in Scotland, for many of those young people who may have been building up
:12:59. > :13:03.the confidence to come out and to feel confident about who they are,
:13:04. > :13:07.for those who may have just done it and are feeling liberated and happy
:13:08. > :13:12.and free, to have seen those horrific scenes on our television,
:13:13. > :13:16.the fear and the isolation and the real terror that some of them might
:13:17. > :13:21.feel really makes me sad and what I would say to them is when you wake
:13:22. > :13:28.up tomorrow tall and full of pride, for every one person who wants to do
:13:29. > :13:31.us harmed there are many who don't and hate never wins.
:13:32. > :13:33.The future of university education has become a key issue
:13:34. > :13:38.The Remain side says it's vital to stay in, to ensure important
:13:39. > :13:41.international funding is maintained, while Leave campaigners
:13:42. > :13:43.argue a Brexit would make the current system fairer.
:13:44. > :14:02.Our students future is at risk if we leave the Ukraine was some British
:14:03. > :14:07.students be treated fairly if we stay? Some of the key questions
:14:08. > :14:11.being asked about university education. This man got his
:14:12. > :14:16.undergraduate degree back home in Spain but was attracted to Glasgow
:14:17. > :14:20.to do his Ph.D. By the facilities and funding. He thinks the UK needs
:14:21. > :14:25.to stay in the EU to insure it can continue to work with other
:14:26. > :14:30.countries. I think it will affect the collaboration because we don't
:14:31. > :14:38.know what will happen if the UK leaves the EU. It will bring a lot
:14:39. > :14:42.of uncertainty. And uncertainty is never good for building anything. He
:14:43. > :14:46.is not the only student who take the same view. Staying in the EU is a
:14:47. > :14:50.huge benefit for all students because it gives you the chance to
:14:51. > :14:56.experience a different way of life and that can help you grow as a
:14:57. > :15:00.person. It gives you a enormous benefits for your CV. Companies are
:15:01. > :15:05.becoming more international these days and the more international
:15:06. > :15:09.experience you have got, the better. But not everyone in higher education
:15:10. > :15:17.feels that way. Scottish students studying in Scotland do not pay
:15:18. > :15:22.tuition fees. Neither do other EU students. Students from other parts
:15:23. > :15:26.of the UK coming to Scotland do pay. And one leave campaign are hoping to
:15:27. > :15:31.get into college is concerned about the future. Two friends of mine, one
:15:32. > :15:38.studying marine biology and one studying law, at Glasgow University
:15:39. > :15:41.might have had slightly worse qualifications but they were born
:15:42. > :15:45.here and they believe and the Scottish people believe that they
:15:46. > :15:51.should get the places first. That makes sense to me. By living in
:15:52. > :15:55.Scotland having the basic locations you should be able to get on that
:15:56. > :16:00.course. But European student should be treated the same as Scottish
:16:01. > :16:04.students. I don't think that's fair. And another student working with the
:16:05. > :16:09.Leave campaign says when it comes to the EU there is too much take and
:16:10. > :16:18.not enough gay. We spend ?1.5 billion every year. -- not enough
:16:19. > :16:23.give. It is only a fraction of what we send. If we left, we would have
:16:24. > :16:31.control of all that money and we could invest in the health service,
:16:32. > :16:35.education. Senior Leave campaigners say a Brexit could level the playing
:16:36. > :16:40.field by saying the EU students they are welcome here but charging them
:16:41. > :16:44.the same as those from the US. When we do that, we have a batch of money
:16:45. > :16:48.that we haven't had before that we can use to grow our own University
:16:49. > :16:53.Centre to encourage working-class kids to come to university. We have
:16:54. > :16:57.a bigger problem with that than anywhere else in the UK. And to
:16:58. > :17:03.safeguard free tuition for Scottish students. John Edward from the
:17:04. > :17:07.Remain campaign say that universities don't see students as a
:17:08. > :17:14.cash cow and in this referendum, this issue is irrelevant. That issue
:17:15. > :17:17.is to do with United kingdom government, not the EU. We have
:17:18. > :17:22.reciprocal arrangements between EU students and Scottish tunes who get
:17:23. > :17:25.the same conditions whether they are home and abroad. How English
:17:26. > :17:30.students are dealt with appears to be problem for the UK Government.
:17:31. > :17:33.Like so many questions, an argument or two sites. We will see which way
:17:34. > :17:37.it goes after the 23rd of June. Scotland has met its annual climate
:17:38. > :17:39.change target for the first time The Scottish Government wants
:17:40. > :17:43.to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by at least 42% by 2020,
:17:44. > :17:45.and 80% by 2050. The latest figures suggest in 2014
:17:46. > :17:51.a 45.8% decrease had A short time before we came on air
:17:52. > :18:08.I spoke to the Climate Change I'm sure you are delighted with
:18:09. > :18:11.these new figures. Which of your government's policies has
:18:12. > :18:18.contributed most to this drop in emissions? They are great figures
:18:19. > :18:23.and I know there have been -- they have been a while in coming. You are
:18:24. > :18:30.seeing the Cumulus of impact over years. If you look at different
:18:31. > :18:34.seconds -- you see the cumulative impact. Various policies have made
:18:35. > :18:41.an impact, residential policies have made a big contribution to this and
:18:42. > :18:45.energy as well. That has been -- we have been a great proponent of
:18:46. > :18:50.renewable energy. Across all the sectors it has been uneven, there is
:18:51. > :18:56.a lot of work to be done. But some say this is due to mild winter, loss
:18:57. > :19:01.of heavy industry, changing share of European credits, not really about
:19:02. > :19:06.government Wallasey? Is a bit like what did the Romans ever do for us,
:19:07. > :19:11.isn't it? These are the things we live with the year-on-year. People
:19:12. > :19:15.are now referencing a milder winter, but remember these are 2014
:19:16. > :19:20.statistics. So the winter you would be talking about is the winter of
:19:21. > :19:29.2013. People should remember that. But remember we had two very bad
:19:30. > :19:33.winters in a row. If you would not cut slack. The year-on-year targets
:19:34. > :19:38.can be quite difficult but we also have that smoothing out interim
:19:39. > :19:43.target which we have blown right through, six years early. So both
:19:44. > :19:49.the set of stats are good news. Now you are setting out a new and more
:19:50. > :19:52.testing climate change target for 2020. Is that an admission that
:19:53. > :19:59.policy has not been bold enough so far? I don't think so. What we are
:20:00. > :20:03.doing now is recognising... And there are slight changes every year,
:20:04. > :20:07.they get work through every year as we get better and measuring. What we
:20:08. > :20:13.are recognising with this result of this year is that when it comes to
:20:14. > :20:18.2020, we want to stretch the target. We have made a commitment from
:20:19. > :20:22.moving that to 40% to over 50% but we need to have a bit of a
:20:23. > :20:25.conversation with the Committee on Climate Change to be absolutely sure
:20:26. > :20:31.that when we do set the target, it is the right one. Can you say, hand
:20:32. > :20:37.on heart in your new role as climate change secretary, that cutting air
:20:38. > :20:41.passenger duty and increasing air traffic will be good for the
:20:42. > :20:48.environment? There are a number of things which curiously enough, will
:20:49. > :20:55.not have an enormous impact on the stats. It's not going to make a
:20:56. > :21:03.better? But APD does not have an enormous impact, what it would in
:21:04. > :21:11.impact on a source emissions. They don't have that much impact on these
:21:12. > :21:13.longer-term targets. When you are recording against targets,
:21:14. > :21:18.interestingly, they don't really make that much difference. What we
:21:19. > :21:21.want to do is actually get a far better measurement of actual
:21:22. > :21:27.emissions from Scotland. Very briefly, will you be pushing for a
:21:28. > :21:31.rethink on APD? I think I will be part of the conversation. There is a
:21:32. > :21:35.Cabinet subcommittee on the. All those around the table will have to
:21:36. > :21:40.think carefully about it but we have to look at the balance right across
:21:41. > :21:44.the whole of government and consider what is in the best interest of
:21:45. > :21:46.Scotland. Roseanna Cunningham, thanks for coming in.
:21:47. > :21:49.Joining me now to discuss that and some of today's other main
:21:50. > :21:51.stories is the Daily Record's feature writer Anna Burnside
:21:52. > :21:53.and Rob Edwards, environment editor of the Sunday Herald and co-founder
:21:54. > :21:59.of investigative website The Ferret.
:22:00. > :22:06.Welcome to both of you. Let's stick with that good news story. Scotland
:22:07. > :22:13.exceeding its target to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. You heard
:22:14. > :22:16.Roseanna Cunningham there not singling out one bold government
:22:17. > :22:21.policy to bring this all about, as the government done enough? I think
:22:22. > :22:25.most people who care about the subject would say they haven't. She
:22:26. > :22:30.was more or less admitting that they hadn't done enough. To give credit,
:22:31. > :22:35.they have increase renewables which has made a difference. They have
:22:36. > :22:42.saved... Reduced in the energy that comes from waste, -- produced some
:22:43. > :22:47.of the emissions that come from waste but some of the changes have
:22:48. > :22:49.been marginal. Reductions in emissions from housing will
:22:50. > :22:56.transport or industry have been very small. If you percent or less. She
:22:57. > :23:00.talked about how it is warm weather, and she said it is partly warm
:23:01. > :23:04.weather and partly a change in the accounting system. It seems to me
:23:05. > :23:08.extraordinary that you have a system where you are relying on this
:23:09. > :23:17.complex piece of emissions trading that nobody really understands and
:23:18. > :23:21.also, if you close long gannet all have air passenger duty, it doesn't
:23:22. > :23:26.make any difference. That needs to change as well. If we are going to
:23:27. > :23:31.make radical targets, we need radical sacrifices, are we ready for
:23:32. > :23:36.that? A tough one. I personally think that some of this reduction
:23:37. > :23:39.may have come from austerity and individuals turning down their
:23:40. > :23:45.eating, using their car less, replacing their car with a smaller,
:23:46. > :23:49.more efficient car. Not for ostensibly green reasons, just to
:23:50. > :23:55.save money. I think that has prompted a behavioural change that
:23:56. > :24:02.many worthy speeches has not. Whether we are ready for more of
:24:03. > :24:08.that, I'm not sure. It is certainly true that austerity or recession,
:24:09. > :24:13.helps save energy. The biggest bulk of the energy saved since the
:24:14. > :24:19.baseline of 1990 has been saved in the first ten years, up till 2009.
:24:20. > :24:24.And that is all to do with the closure of Ravenscraig, the kind of
:24:25. > :24:29.industry and nothing to do with government policy to cut climate
:24:30. > :24:33.pollution. What about when we look at government policy like cutting
:24:34. > :24:37.air passenger duty. Roseanna Cunningham was refusing to be drawn
:24:38. > :24:41.on whether she will press for a reversal, but do you think that is
:24:42. > :24:46.inevitable? I think it is doublethink to celebrate meeting
:24:47. > :24:56.these figures while on the other hand carrying on with this policy.
:24:57. > :25:00.If they are now saying we need to do more, we have got harder target
:25:01. > :25:08.coming in, we need to face up and do harder things, that is a really,
:25:09. > :25:11.this place to start. But it is she said, a balancing act. We have to
:25:12. > :25:16.think about the economy and the same time? And they are very strongly
:25:17. > :25:21.committed to cutting air passenger duty, it was in their manifesto and
:25:22. > :25:25.they defended it. But notice that Roseanna Cunningham didn't defend
:25:26. > :25:29.it! But that is but one of many contradictions that they face.
:25:30. > :25:32.Climate change and cutting climate emissions challenges a lot of
:25:33. > :25:38.fundamental economic assumptions that the SNP and other governments
:25:39. > :25:43.have relied on for decades. Sticking with energy, industry and government
:25:44. > :25:45.figures have been attending the annual Oil Gas UK conference,
:25:46. > :25:51.talking about the downturn in the industry. It was announced yesterday
:25:52. > :25:55.that some oil and gas workers could retrain as teachers and be
:25:56. > :26:00.guaranteed a job for four years. I think that is a great idea. It is
:26:01. > :26:05.fantastic to have people from different backgrounds in the
:26:06. > :26:09.classroom. There is a nationwide shortage of teachers in the Stem
:26:10. > :26:15.subjects and surely the oil and gas industry must cover just about all
:26:16. > :26:22.those bases. I don't really see any downsides of this policy. And I
:26:23. > :26:26.would also hope that as well as going into secondary teaching,
:26:27. > :26:30.teaching Stem subjects, that some of the people from the industry would
:26:31. > :26:34.go into primary and even nursery education because I'm guessing here
:26:35. > :26:36.that most people who work in the oil and gas industry are men and there a
:26:37. > :26:56.shortage of men these areas. Going back to the weather gas
:26:57. > :27:00.industry, will be difficult to support people in that industry
:27:01. > :27:04.while doing something about climate change. As Allah said, it is an
:27:05. > :27:12.example of doublethink, or cognitive dissonance. -- as Anna has said. We
:27:13. > :27:20.have had people saying we have to lead the world by leading the world
:27:21. > :27:25.-- by cutting climate emissions and we also have to lead the world by
:27:26. > :27:29.the supporting oil and gas. You cannot do both. This idea of
:27:30. > :27:33.training oil and gas workers to be teachers is the kind of thing we
:27:34. > :27:37.need, but we don't just need one initiative, we need a whole is
:27:38. > :27:41.tragedy where you can diversify and move out of oil so that the pain
:27:42. > :27:46.that we are going to suffer as the industry winds down as I think it
:27:47. > :27:50.will, can be lessened. And briefly before we go this evening and we
:27:51. > :27:57.come back to the Orlando story when we had Colin McFarlane talking about
:27:58. > :28:01.how gay equality needs to be talked about in Scotland's classrooms, do
:28:02. > :28:06.you think it is difficult for teachers to talk about LGBT issues,
:28:07. > :28:11.giving the views of some parents and some faith groups? It is difficult
:28:12. > :28:15.and teachers need to be very clear that this is part of their
:28:16. > :28:20.responsibility and their duty of care to their pupils to make their
:28:21. > :28:23.schools safe and secure. It needs to be included in the teacher training
:28:24. > :28:28.curriculum so there was no doubt and no quibbles and nobody can say but I
:28:29. > :28:33.don't want it for this reason that reason. I think it has to have a
:28:34. > :28:37.ring fenced based in the curriculum. All children need to learn about
:28:38. > :28:42.this and to be educated in an environment where they are free from
:28:43. > :28:46.bullying and prejudice and any other nonsense that might affect their
:28:47. > :28:50.education. Because there are absolutely clear figures that show
:28:51. > :28:55.that homophobic bullying and general language of and all the elements of
:28:56. > :28:59.it really affected these children's education and that is not
:29:00. > :29:04.acceptable. Would you like to see the First Minister leading from the
:29:05. > :29:08.front, very briefly? The Scottish Government clearly needs to do more.
:29:09. > :29:11.It is ironic that they are not doing it as much in education as the
:29:12. > :29:16.Westminster government, which is strange. We will have to leave it
:29:17. > :29:22.there, Rob and Allah. Thanks for coming in. -- Rob and Anna Burnside.
:29:23. > :29:27.I'm back again tomorrow night, usual time.
:29:28. > :29:38.the most important issues of the EU Referendum,
:29:39. > :29:43.and it'll be in front of a live audience of thousands,