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:00:00. > :00:00.Labour MP Jo Cox dies after she is shot and stabbed

:00:00. > :00:26.during an attack in her Yorkshire constituency.

:00:27. > :00:31.EU campaigning is suspended and tributes pour in for

:00:32. > :00:32.41-year-old MP Jo Cox, who died earlier

:00:33. > :00:39.today after an attack near her constituency office.

:00:40. > :00:55.Jo was such a lively, bright, bubbly person with a very infectious sense

:00:56. > :01:01.of humour and sense of engagement and she would always put such huge

:01:02. > :01:05.energy behind everything she did. Really committed to helping the most

:01:06. > :01:07.marginalised and the poorest around the world and that has always been

:01:08. > :01:08.the Jo I know. And Lord Coe won the presidency

:01:09. > :01:11.of Athletics' world governing body, with the help of the man

:01:12. > :01:14.at the centre of the sport's doping scandal, according to a BBC

:01:15. > :01:29.Scotland investigation. Did you mislead Parliament? Did you

:01:30. > :01:30.take advice when he was accused of corruption? It is a very simple

:01:31. > :01:35.question. "She went to some of the most

:01:36. > :01:39.dangerous places in the world. The last place she should have been

:01:40. > :01:42.in danger was in her home town." The words of former Prime Minister

:01:43. > :01:45.Gordon Brown about Jo Cox, who he worked alongside

:01:46. > :01:46.on poverty campaigns. The mother of two young children

:01:47. > :01:49.and MP for Batley and Spen, in Yorkshire, was shot and stabbed

:01:50. > :01:52.earlier today on her way This report from Huw Williams

:01:53. > :02:20.contains some flash photography. Just before 1pm today, Jo Cox, MP

:02:21. > :02:25.for Batley and Spen... Confirmation came at five p.m.. I am now sad to

:02:26. > :02:32.report she has dry as a result of her injuries. Police have launched

:02:33. > :02:34.an investigation. This is a very significant investigation with large

:02:35. > :02:40.numbers of witnesses to be spoken to at this time. There is a large and

:02:41. > :02:45.significant crime scene and a large police presence in the area.

:02:46. > :02:50.Political leaders from all parties expressed their shock and sent

:02:51. > :02:55.condolences to the family. We have lost a great start. She was a great

:02:56. > :03:01.campaigning MP with huge compassion and a big heart. People are going to

:03:02. > :03:07.be very sad at what has happened, dreadful news. The First Minister

:03:08. > :03:22.Nicola Sturgeon said this is utterly shocking and tragic news.

:03:23. > :03:30.We come together at a time like this, we come together to support

:03:31. > :03:36.the family and to mourn and reflect that violence is not an answer to

:03:37. > :03:42.anything. She has devoted her life to public service and tackling

:03:43. > :03:47.inequality not just in the UK but around the world and she went into

:03:48. > :03:49.work to do her job today and was representing her constituents and

:03:50. > :03:57.has faced a violent act that has taken her life. I declare that the

:03:58. > :04:02.said Jo Cox is duly elected member of Parliament... She was only

:04:03. > :04:06.elected one year ago. I have decided I'm going to approach being a member

:04:07. > :04:13.of Parliament with a healthy sense of humour. It is an amazing building

:04:14. > :04:17.but I will not let intimidate me. Local people have been left

:04:18. > :04:23.struggling to know how to understand it. A lovely and caring person and a

:04:24. > :04:28.few aspirin then she would answer honestly, just lovely. Soon after

:04:29. > :04:31.they attacked a 52-year-old man was arrested and Yorkshire police say at

:04:32. > :04:37.the moment they are not looking for anyone else. Both sides have

:04:38. > :04:40.suspended campaigning as a mark of respect and those who knew Jo Cox

:04:41. > :04:50.through working alongside her have been remembering their friends. She

:04:51. > :04:54.was such a lively and bright person, an infectious sense of humour and

:04:55. > :05:00.always positive and would put such huge energy behind everything she

:05:01. > :05:03.did. Really committed to helping the most marginalised, the poorest

:05:04. > :05:10.families and children around the world and that has always been the

:05:11. > :05:28.Jo I know. Tonight, Jo Cox's husband Brendan said in a statement...

:05:29. > :05:32.Apologies, it is a 52-year-old man in police custody.

:05:33. > :05:44.Our Westminster Correspondent David Porter is in our Oxford studio.

:05:45. > :05:52.We see MPs and parliamentary staff gathered tonight an individual. I

:05:53. > :05:59.gather it has been a pretty sombre mood ever since the news broke. A

:06:00. > :06:04.very sombre mood. Parliamentarians and staff have been gathering in

:06:05. > :06:09.front of the House of Commons, some are known as Parliament Square which

:06:10. > :06:14.is a stretch of grass outside the Houses of Parliament. I think they

:06:15. > :06:20.thought that was the most appropriate place to gather.

:06:21. > :06:25.Westminster is in a very strange mood at the moment. Normally it is a

:06:26. > :06:30.very noisy and load place with the cut and thrust of political debate.

:06:31. > :06:35.Because we are now in the final stages of the referendum campaign

:06:36. > :06:41.many MPs are not at Westminster, but those who have been at Westminster,

:06:42. > :06:48.the overriding emotion has been one of shock and revulsion. When news

:06:49. > :06:57.started to emanate just after 1pm today, MP still at Westminster

:06:58. > :07:04.started to ask questions and I think many realise the seriousness of what

:07:05. > :07:12.had happened when Jo Cox's husband published a picture of her

:07:13. > :07:17.mid-afternoon Allsop it was in effect a tribute and it was only

:07:18. > :07:22.later news was announced that she had dry. Those who work at

:07:23. > :07:27.Westminster are used to massive security. When you add in the

:07:28. > :07:33.parliamentary estate it is a very secure area. There are police with

:07:34. > :07:38.guns wandering around and people feel safe with them the

:07:39. > :07:41.parliamentary estate but MPs like all elected politicians have to meet

:07:42. > :07:46.members of the general public. It is part of their job and there are many

:07:47. > :07:52.people at Westminster tonight who are reflecting that one of their

:07:53. > :07:59.own, one of the Westminster family, has been taken from them in the most

:08:00. > :08:03.dreadful circumstances. She was going about her constituency work

:08:04. > :08:09.when this happened and it must raise concerns among MPs about security

:08:10. > :08:13.because that is part of the job? MPs, like many people, meet members

:08:14. > :08:19.of the public and many people's jobs involve that including journalists

:08:20. > :08:23.and things like that, but with it differs as they have two invite

:08:24. > :08:26.people into the offices and lives because to be an MP you have to

:08:27. > :08:34.represent a constituency and you want to hear from your constituents

:08:35. > :08:38.and surgeries and things are often advertised on the Internet and local

:08:39. > :08:45.newspapers saw constituents can go and meet them and question them. You

:08:46. > :08:49.often find they have open surgeries and people can arrive, often quite

:08:50. > :08:53.agitated, because they have issues they want to raise that perhaps they

:08:54. > :09:00.have not been able to get sorted out otherwise. When they are at

:09:01. > :09:05.Westminster the had any security bubble but when they go out they are

:09:06. > :09:10.available for all to talk to and sometimes in quite strong terms. It

:09:11. > :09:14.goes with the nature of the job and the territorial of whether you are

:09:15. > :09:19.an MP or MSP or even an elected local councillor. She wanted

:09:20. > :09:23.interact with those who have returned you to office but I think

:09:24. > :09:27.there will be a number of people who will be saying that perhaps in

:09:28. > :09:33.future, we have to look at this again and look at security

:09:34. > :09:38.arrangements. Mercifully, this is rear and have been incidents in

:09:39. > :09:43.recent years, Stephen Timms was attacked and Nigel Jones, a Liberal

:09:44. > :09:48.Democrat, was actually seriously hurt in his constituency office in

:09:49. > :09:56.Cheltenham. One of his caseworkers was killed. But mercifully, these

:09:57. > :10:02.incidents are rare indeed. And just briefly, this has had a big impact

:10:03. > :10:07.on the referendum campaign? It has, and campaigning mid-afternoon was

:10:08. > :10:12.suspended by both sides and that was an indication of just quite how

:10:13. > :10:16.seriousness was. We understand that basically campaigning will be

:10:17. > :10:21.suspended again tomorrow and will not get underway until the weekend.

:10:22. > :10:27.There have already been changes tonight and the Mansion house speech

:10:28. > :10:33.the Chancellor and the Governor of the Bank of England were going to

:10:34. > :10:36.the lover, that has been changed. Flags at Westminster are flying at

:10:37. > :10:42.half-mast and we have a by-election in tooting. During the counting of

:10:43. > :10:50.that at some point there will be a two-minute silence. We have the EU

:10:51. > :10:55.referendum and that is so vitally important, that will get underway,

:10:56. > :11:00.but for the next 24 hours there will be a period of reflection in which

:11:01. > :11:08.everyone at Westminster will realise, whether the new Jo or not,

:11:09. > :11:13.she was one of Westminster's own and an awful lot of MPs and staff who

:11:14. > :11:15.work for MPs will be wondering, could that have happened to me?

:11:16. > :11:17.He's a double Olympic gold medallist and the architect

:11:18. > :11:20.But tonight, Lord Coe finds himself the subject of allegations

:11:21. > :11:23.that he won the presidency of world athletics' governing body,

:11:24. > :11:25.the IAAF, with the help of the man at the centre

:11:26. > :11:29.Text messages seen by a BBC investigation suggest former IAAF

:11:30. > :11:31.consultant Papa Massata Diack secured votes for Lord Coe.

:11:32. > :11:35.The Panorama programme also suggests that Lord Coe may have

:11:36. > :12:03.Here's BBC Scotland's investigations correspondent Mark Daly.

:12:04. > :12:14.It was Lord call's crowning moment, becoming president of the sport he

:12:15. > :12:22.graced as an athlete. But soon athletics and the IAAF was that the

:12:23. > :12:27.centre of a corruption scandal. He said he was in the dark although he

:12:28. > :12:31.had been a vice president of the IAAF for the preceding eight years.

:12:32. > :12:34.I was not aware of the specific allegations that had been made

:12:35. > :12:42.around the corruption of anti-doping processes and Russia. But that he

:12:43. > :12:47.mislead Parliament? Panorama can reveal Lord Coe was sent a dossier

:12:48. > :12:49.of the corruption claims being investigated by the ethics

:12:50. > :12:56.commission four months before the scandal erupted in public. But there

:12:57. > :13:01.is more. Senegal, from where fresh questions emerged around whether one

:13:02. > :13:08.of the men at the centre of the corruption claims helped Lord Coe

:13:09. > :13:18.when the election. He came to meet me in Beijing before the elections.

:13:19. > :13:23.Text messages between Papa Massata Diack and Lord Coe and his

:13:24. > :13:25.right-hand man Nick Davies suggest Papa Massata Diack was giving

:13:26. > :13:32.campaign advice and helping to secure votes.

:13:33. > :13:47.And the night before the vote. Lord Coe, good morning. Can I ask you a

:13:48. > :13:52.few questions? Why were you so close to Papa Massata Diack in the run-up

:13:53. > :13:56.to your presidential election? At this point you knew that he was

:13:57. > :14:02.accused of the most serious corruption that athletics has ever

:14:03. > :14:07.seen. Can I ask, did you mislead Parliament? Did you take political

:14:08. > :14:11.campaign advice from Papa Massata Diack when he was accused of

:14:12. > :14:21.corruption? It is a simple question, yes or no? Thank you very much. If

:14:22. > :14:26.you want to be drawn on the past and what he knew and can come up with a

:14:27. > :14:30.compelling argument, I don't see how he can continue to be president of

:14:31. > :14:36.the IAAF because he would like public support to do so. Lord Coe

:14:37. > :14:40.has since told the BBC he was forwarded e-mails but didn't open

:14:41. > :14:44.the attachment. He said he sent them onto the IAAF's ethics committee

:14:45. > :14:49.elected to them to investigate it. He says suggestions he sought Papa

:14:50. > :14:56.Massata Diack's support were wrong and that many people would offer

:14:57. > :14:59.advice and he was civil. Tomorrow in Vienna the IAAF will announce

:15:00. > :15:02.whether Russian athletes are able to compete in the Olympics following

:15:03. > :15:04.the doping scandal but perhaps more than ever all eyes will be on its

:15:05. > :15:05.president. And Mark Daly is with me

:15:06. > :15:17.here in the studio now. There have been a lot of twists and

:15:18. > :15:22.turns, but this latest chapter does call Lord Coe's judgment into

:15:23. > :15:28.question. Some of the people I spoke to believe that an Lord Coe's

:15:29. > :15:33.judgment will be on display like that no other time like it will be

:15:34. > :15:38.tomorrow. Tomorrow is the biggest decision the IAAF has had to make

:15:39. > :15:43.under Lord Coe. It will announce whether or not Russian athletes will

:15:44. > :15:48.be allowed to compete. This is off the back of the doping scandal which

:15:49. > :15:52.has exploded over the last 18 months. This is about

:15:53. > :15:59.state-sponsored doping in Russia. Russia are currently suspended from

:16:00. > :16:04.competition. The Russians went back into the frame in time for the Rio

:16:05. > :16:08.Olympics and tomorrow, IAAF will decide whether they can do that.

:16:09. > :16:18.Russia was supposed to have been getting its house in order over the

:16:19. > :16:23.last six months, but there is a drip of stories coming out, for examples,

:16:24. > :16:31.a documentary team and another report suggesting all is still not

:16:32. > :16:37.well within Russia. The world anti-grouping agency reported that

:16:38. > :16:42.700 testers were unable to carry out tests in Russia because they were

:16:43. > :16:46.being blocked. All these things considered means that tomorrow, it

:16:47. > :16:50.is probably not going to be a very difficult decision to make and that

:16:51. > :16:56.the ban on Russia will be upheld but the complication is the IAAF do

:16:57. > :17:00.decide to ban Russia from the Olympics is that some people are

:17:01. > :17:04.predicting there may be some sort of fudge where athletes from Russia

:17:05. > :17:09.will still be allowed to compete and they may be allowed to compete under

:17:10. > :17:19.an international Olympic Committee banner. If that happens, criticism

:17:20. > :17:24.will rain down on all fronts. Tomorrow a huge day for Lord Coe.

:17:25. > :17:29.Wild athletics really does seem to have a bit of an image problem.

:17:30. > :17:35.Wasn't said Coe meant to be the man to sort that out? Yes, and his

:17:36. > :17:39.arrival at IAAF was greeted with great fanfare because some saw him

:17:40. > :17:46.as a clean break from what had gone on before. Our investigations show

:17:47. > :17:54.he appears to be very close with the previous regime. He lavished praise

:17:55. > :17:59.on the outgoing president within a few weeks of him being arrested on

:18:00. > :18:05.corruption charges. His son is on the run from Interpol and it emerged

:18:06. > :18:10.that he appeared to have been given Lord Coe political advice and even

:18:11. > :18:15.helping him own votes. That is one thing. The other issue and some

:18:16. > :18:19.believe a more serious one for Lord Coe is whether he misled Parliament

:18:20. > :18:25.over what he knew about these corruption allegations. The Russian

:18:26. > :18:29.doping is one thing but the corruption allegations are what

:18:30. > :18:36.catapulted athletics into the mess it is in and these allegations word

:18:37. > :18:41.that senior IAAF officials conspired to extort athletes to cover up their

:18:42. > :18:45.doping and allow them to continue to compete, and these allegations were

:18:46. > :18:50.sent directly to Lord Coe and tonight he said he did not open

:18:51. > :18:57.those e-mails, simply forwarded them on. Some do not accept that and the

:18:58. > :19:01.culture media and sport committee may not accept that explanation and

:19:02. > :19:02.may want him back to explain himself.

:19:03. > :19:04.And you can see that Panorama Special, Seb Coe

:19:05. > :19:09.and the Corruption Scandal, on the BBC iPlayer.

:19:10. > :19:13.In the wake of MP Jo Cox's death, the Irish Prime Minister has

:19:14. > :19:17.expressed his deepest sympathies to her family on social media.

:19:18. > :19:21.Enda Kenny will be in Scotland tomorrow for a meeting

:19:22. > :19:23.of the British Irish council, hosted by the First Minister.

:19:24. > :19:27.EU campaigning has been suspended and there will be a minute's silence

:19:28. > :19:34.With Ireland being Britain's closest neighbour and a week to go

:19:35. > :19:37.till the EU referendum, the possibility of a Brexit vote

:19:38. > :19:43.Joining me now by video link from Dublin is Harry Mcgee,

:19:44. > :19:50.political correspondent with The Irish Times.

:19:51. > :20:02.Good evening. As you know, EU campaigning here has been suspended,

:20:03. > :20:08.but what do you expect and Kenny to say if and when the referendum comes

:20:09. > :20:12.up tomorrow? The message the Irish government has been giving has been

:20:13. > :20:16.nuanced in that they have said they are not actively taking part within

:20:17. > :20:22.the campaign, but when you drill down the language, it has a clear

:20:23. > :20:29.message and that is that Britain within the EU is good not only for

:20:30. > :20:34.Britain but also good for Ireland and Mr Kenny, the Prime Minister, is

:20:35. > :20:38.only one of about six or seven ministers who have visited the UK in

:20:39. > :20:43.the past two weeks to hammer home that message we have had. The

:20:44. > :20:47.Minister for foreign affairs and public expenditure and other

:20:48. > :20:55.ministers who visited Northern Ireland, London, Liverpool and Leeds

:20:56. > :20:59.and now Mr Kenny himself visiting Scotland tomorrow. What are the main

:21:00. > :21:06.concern is that if Britain does vote to leave? There are two deep

:21:07. > :21:12.concerns in Ireland. The first is an economic one. There is over 1

:21:13. > :21:18.billion euros of trade between Ireland and Britain every single

:21:19. > :21:25.week, so it is our biggest trading partner and the last of Britain from

:21:26. > :21:30.the EU would have severe ramifications for that as with

:21:31. > :21:35.devaluation of sterling. The other concerns the border with Northern

:21:36. > :21:39.Ireland. At the moment that is open, it is invisible. There is common

:21:40. > :21:43.travel between Ireland and Britain and even those who have been

:21:44. > :21:47.campaigning for Britain to leave have said that situation will

:21:48. > :21:52.change. Vista Kenny say they doubt that situation will continue to

:21:53. > :22:01.exist because Ireland will become an EU border and he said that he fails

:22:02. > :22:07.to see how some form of customs or border control cannot be

:22:08. > :22:10.reintroduced, so that is a real concern for the Irish government

:22:11. > :22:16.even though it has been played down by those who are urging Britain to

:22:17. > :22:21.leave. Is it a view that a Brexit could be good for the country? There

:22:22. > :22:28.are some contrary views. It does not come from politicians. There is an

:22:29. > :22:34.independent MTP, Luke Flanagan, who has made the argument that Europe is

:22:35. > :22:38.unaccountable, unelectable, that Brussels costs billions of euros and

:22:39. > :22:45.does not give value for money and that Ireland might be better off as

:22:46. > :22:49.a sovereign entity with some ties to Europe, but not as a member of the

:22:50. > :22:54.European Union. A very prominent economist in Ireland has also said

:22:55. > :23:01.if Brexit were to occur, Ireland could get a short-term bounce in

:23:02. > :23:04.that foreign direct investment. Might be redirected to Ireland on

:23:05. > :23:11.the basis that it is still within the EU and not outside, so there

:23:12. > :23:12.argues that have been expressed, minority views but they are held by

:23:13. > :23:15.some. Thank you. Here with me now to discuss some

:23:16. > :23:17.of the day's main news is Scottish Political Editor

:23:18. > :23:20.of the Times, Lindsay McIntosh, and the Political Editor

:23:21. > :23:38.of the Herald, Magnus Gardham. Let's go back to our stop story. The

:23:39. > :23:44.killing of MP Jo Cox. She was clearly Walmart and very respected.

:23:45. > :23:50.She was. The tributes are incredibly eloquent and really talk very much

:23:51. > :23:58.of the woman that she was. These are in no way kind of platitudes. They

:23:59. > :24:02.talk about a woman who really cared what she was doing, cared about her

:24:03. > :24:09.constituents, the issues she was campaigning on, was a very much

:24:10. > :24:16.loved wife and mother. What really struck me was from her husband. A

:24:17. > :24:21.brief tribute that he makes. One was from Andrew Mitchell who talked

:24:22. > :24:25.about how un-partisan she was unwanted to work across the parties

:24:26. > :24:31.about issues and one was from the Yorkshire Post, a young woman who

:24:32. > :24:36.talks about how inspirational Jo was to her and for women from an

:24:37. > :24:42.ordinary background. We are very used to hearing criticism of MPs,

:24:43. > :24:48.reviled as expensive scandals but this story brings home the sort of

:24:49. > :24:54.work they do in their constituencies and how vulnerable they are.

:24:55. > :24:57.Absolutely. And M SPCA said yesterday, everybody hates

:24:58. > :25:03.politicians and she said that in such a matter of fact way that I was

:25:04. > :25:10.rather taken aback. The appropriate response is to agree or disagree

:25:11. > :25:14.with a politician, but this casual, lazy despising of politicians is a

:25:15. > :25:22.terrible thing and I do hope this will serve to remind people that the

:25:23. > :25:28.vast bulk of what politicians do is to turn up to libraries, community

:25:29. > :25:34.centres, to hold surgeries and to sort out routine, everyday problems

:25:35. > :25:44.for the people they represent. If anything comes out of this, I hope

:25:45. > :25:48.it is that. Inevitably, people are already talking about how security

:25:49. > :25:53.can be improved, but I wonder if there is very much you can do to

:25:54. > :26:02.prevent a situation like this happening. Conversations like that

:26:03. > :26:06.are for another day. Today is very much about Jo Cox and the role she

:26:07. > :26:12.played for her constituents that we have been talking about, as the days

:26:13. > :26:17.go by maybe we start to have those conversations. It has been reported

:26:18. > :26:24.that the man arrested was born in Kilmarnock. But he moved to West

:26:25. > :26:29.Yorkshire some 40 years ago. The details of the whole incident are

:26:30. > :26:34.still pretty unclear, but there is some suggestion it was politically

:26:35. > :26:39.motivated. That must be a concern. We have to be really careful because

:26:40. > :26:48.as you say, we don't know the full circumstances yet. If it turns out

:26:49. > :26:54.there is some kind of political motivation behind this, however

:26:55. > :26:58.warped or twisted, it is yet again another reminder that serious and

:26:59. > :27:04.sensitive debate that we are having on issues like immigration are

:27:05. > :27:13.debates that need to be happening in a rational and sensible way, in a

:27:14. > :27:18.way that is unlikely to inflame hatred and things like that. Like I

:27:19. > :27:23.say, we have to be careful about jumping to conclusions at the moment

:27:24. > :27:27.because the circumstances are still quite hazy. Inevitably it will have

:27:28. > :27:32.a bit of an impact over the next week. Already for good reason,

:27:33. > :27:37.campaigning has been suspended but it's hard to see that level of

:27:38. > :27:42.rhetoric can be ramped up to the level it was at just before all of

:27:43. > :27:46.this happened. Of course. The campaigning on both sides has been

:27:47. > :27:52.suspended today and rightly so. We have seen that the kind of

:27:53. > :27:55.understandable shock at Westminster and the rest of the country and

:27:56. > :28:05.obviously that will continue. increase the number of armed police

:28:06. > :28:11.officers by a third following the concerns would not be equipped to

:28:12. > :28:16.deal with a major terror attack. How sensitive is this issue of arming

:28:17. > :28:20.the police in Scotland is? We know it is sensitive because a couple of

:28:21. > :28:26.years ago, there was an outcry when it turned out that our police were

:28:27. > :28:29.being deployed on fairly routine duties, particularly in the

:28:30. > :28:34.Highlands and there needed to be refreshed guidance to the police

:28:35. > :28:39.that that should not happen. It is a sensitive issue and I think the

:28:40. > :28:45.sensitivity was borne out by the fact this wasn't announced by the

:28:46. > :28:49.police. It is clearly an operational matter for the police but the

:28:50. > :28:53.Justice Secretary saw fit to make a very thorough statement in the

:28:54. > :29:00.Scottish Parliament today. Is there a concern that this might lead to

:29:01. > :29:06.mission creep? We have to be very aware of the risk and that was the

:29:07. > :29:10.problem that happened some two years ago. Routine arming was happening

:29:11. > :29:16.and the public was not aware. What happened today is clearly an effort

:29:17. > :29:21.at real transparency from the police and from our elected members to say,

:29:22. > :29:27.look, this is policing with concern, we are telling you what is happening

:29:28. > :29:31.here and white. Has there been a shift in public attitudes to

:29:32. > :29:36.increase security? Possibly there has. The Justice Secretary

:29:37. > :29:43.referenced the very shocking atrocities that we have seen since

:29:44. > :29:51.Charlie Hebdo in Belgium, Orlando recently and the succession of these

:29:52. > :29:57.is a big factor. People are much more accepting. I will have to leave

:29:58. > :29:59.it there. Thanks very much. That is it for tonight. Goodbye.