:00:00. > :00:07.BBC Scotland investigation reveals thousands of so-called "adverse
:00:08. > :00:32.The incidents uncovered range from minor mistakes to major errors
:00:33. > :00:37.leading to the deaths of mothers or their babies.
:00:38. > :00:39.And in other news, what will be in the Chancellor's Autumn
:00:40. > :00:44.And charities say people with disabilities are STILL facing
:00:45. > :00:57.A BBC Scotland Investigation has found that, since 2011,
:00:58. > :01:01.three women and more than 100 babies have died as a result
:01:02. > :01:05.of what are described as "adverse events" in maternity wards.
:01:06. > :01:08.The Scottish Government says the safety of mothers and babies
:01:09. > :01:16.is paramount and that it's vital that lessons are learnt.
:01:17. > :01:19.In a moment, an MSP tells me about he and his wife's
:01:20. > :01:22.own experience of losing a child, and what he thinks should be done.
:01:23. > :01:37.Elsa, a typical 20-month-old child, full of curiosity.
:01:38. > :01:39.Today, she should be playing with her twin brother Aaron,
:01:40. > :01:48.They monitored the baby's heartbeat and they were not
:01:49. > :01:53.There was a shift change of midwives and that is when things
:01:54. > :02:03.Soon after that we were rushed through for a Caesarean section.
:02:04. > :02:06.The hospital's on report suggests certain procedures were not followed
:02:07. > :02:07.and delays in conducting her Caesarean section
:02:08. > :02:17.and problems in the monitoring of Aaron's heartrate.
:02:18. > :02:22.I should have both of them with me, and I think if things were acted
:02:23. > :02:27.on sooner I should have him with Elsa and the family
:02:28. > :02:36.NHS Fife said they are unable to comment on individual cases
:02:37. > :02:38.but there were significant events they do learn lessons.
:02:39. > :02:45.A BBC investigation found there has been more than 25,000 so-called
:02:46. > :02:48.adverse events in maternity wards in Scotland since 2011.
:02:49. > :02:51.Many were minor or unavoidable, but they also included
:02:52. > :02:54.serious incidents that led to the deaths of three mothers.
:02:55. > :03:05.79 stillborn babies and 26 babies who died just after birth.
:03:06. > :03:08.At the Victoria Hospital where Aaron was born there were almost 4000
:03:09. > :03:10.adverse events including very minor incidents.
:03:11. > :03:13.But also delays in treatment and errors in medication.
:03:14. > :03:16.Some of these incidents were avoidable, a new project
:03:17. > :03:22.It discovered about 100 babies suffered avoidable harm in Scotland
:03:23. > :03:28.The reviews are not done to a consistently high standard.
:03:29. > :03:32.I think the problem really there is due to their not
:03:33. > :03:36.being adequate tools out there to help health service staff,
:03:37. > :03:38.be it midwives, paediatricians, or obstetricians to do
:03:39. > :03:46.Almost 500 of the incidents recorded in the BBC's investigation
:03:47. > :03:51.And with a number of experienced midwives due to retire
:03:52. > :03:57.there as concerns about the safety of new mothers and their babies.
:03:58. > :04:00.If we don't get the staffing levels right and the right number
:04:01. > :04:07.of midwives to deliver on the care that women and their babies need,
:04:08. > :04:14.then we could be in danger of not providing a safe service.
:04:15. > :04:16.The Scottish Government says they are working
:04:17. > :04:23.Through the patient safety programme we do have the lowest level
:04:24. > :04:27.of stillborn babies that we've ever had on record, we have a reducing
:04:28. > :04:30.number of neonatal deaths and reducing number of maternal
:04:31. > :04:34.deaths but there is no complacency whatsoever.
:04:35. > :04:38.If there is more we can do we will take further action.
:04:39. > :04:41.For Aaron's parents and others the most important thing
:04:42. > :04:48.Some babies don't survive for medical reasons,
:04:49. > :04:51.but experts say we need to focus on whether babies like Aaron
:04:52. > :04:59.are dying due to human error exactly when they need help the most.
:05:00. > :05:04.A review of baby deaths at Crosshouse Hospital in Kilmarnock
:05:05. > :05:07.was announced yesterday after a BBC Scotland investigation
:05:08. > :05:11.revealed that there had been six so-called "unnecessary" deaths
:05:12. > :05:17.But the MSP Kenneth Gibson has urged the Health Secretary
:05:18. > :05:22.I've been speaking to him - and a warning that his story
:05:23. > :05:31.contains details some viewers might find distressing.
:05:32. > :05:41.You had the worst imaginable experience of maternity care. Talk
:05:42. > :05:47.me through your experience. Seven years ago, my wife went into
:05:48. > :05:53.hospital. She was then sent home. She was violently sick. Went back to
:05:54. > :05:57.the hospital. After 45 minutes of arguing, they finally agreed to
:05:58. > :06:01.admit her. She was put into a ward where I was not permitted to join
:06:02. > :06:07.her, given morphine and left overnight. When she woke up in the
:06:08. > :06:14.morning, the baby had died. She had had pain from head to toe. The
:06:15. > :06:22.entire body was in agony. Despite the fact the consultant and a junior
:06:23. > :06:26.doctor examined her, they did not discover she suffered from
:06:27. > :06:32.pre-eclampsia. After the baby died, they tried to deliver the baby
:06:33. > :06:39.naturally but her liver ruptured, so she was sectioned and was in
:06:40. > :06:43.intensive care for 19 days after that. That was the beginning of the
:06:44. > :06:51.appalling experience we went through. From our perspective, all
:06:52. > :06:58.we wanted after the event was not to blame anyone but just to find out,
:06:59. > :07:03.as many parents do, what happened and to have an explanation from the
:07:04. > :07:06.health board as to what they would do to ensure that what happened to
:07:07. > :07:12.us would not happen to anyone else. How long did it take to get a
:07:13. > :07:22.satisfactory answer? Our baby died in October 2009. We finally settled
:07:23. > :07:26.it six months ago, so six and a half years. After 20 months of being
:07:27. > :07:31.blanked by the Glasgow health board, we had no option but to take legal
:07:32. > :07:36.action to get some kind of response, and that is when the legal machine
:07:37. > :07:42.of the health board went into overdrive. They had an expensive QC
:07:43. > :07:48.and made it as difficult as possible for us to pursue what was frankly an
:07:49. > :07:56.open and shut case. I do think it is appalling the grieving parents are
:07:57. > :08:02.treated like this. I just wonder,... Before I came on, I was speaking to
:08:03. > :08:08.your technician who had an almost identical process to what we
:08:09. > :08:11.suffered. I think it is shameful that, instead of facing up the
:08:12. > :08:18.responsibilities and explaining to people what they would do to improve
:08:19. > :08:23.things, health boards, not just Glasgow, seem to do all they can to
:08:24. > :08:29.bury their heads in the sand. It strikes me that if you as an MSP
:08:30. > :08:35.take years to get answers, what about other peoples who face similar
:08:36. > :08:40.problems? I actually felt constrained as an MSP. I do not want
:08:41. > :08:46.anyone to think I was seeking preferential treatment. I did not
:08:47. > :08:52.white to anyone as an MSP. People are grieving. People have lost their
:08:53. > :08:55.babies which are very precious. This is not about compensation. What you
:08:56. > :09:04.actually get in Scotland for the death of the baby in stillbirth is
:09:05. > :09:12.about 3% of what Charlotte Church allegedly got the having her
:09:13. > :09:16.telephone packed. It is really time that the Scottish Government stopped
:09:17. > :09:20.this heavy-handed approach on health boards because many people I am sure
:09:21. > :09:26.have struggled with the process we have struggled with. All people want
:09:27. > :09:32.is an explanation of what will be done to try and make the system much
:09:33. > :09:37.better so other babies do not die unnecessarily. And you do not think
:09:38. > :09:43.the government's inquiry goes far enough? No, I don't. I think it has
:09:44. > :09:48.to be deeper and wider and include some of the issues I have been
:09:49. > :09:54.talking about. What we have to do is look at it from two ways. We have to
:09:55. > :09:58.reduce the number stillbirths. That is overwhelmingly the most important
:09:59. > :10:07.thing. Secondly, when people do have a stillbirth, they should be treated
:10:08. > :10:10.with care and is grieving parents, not people hostile to the health
:10:11. > :10:12.board and the hospital where they suffered that tragedy. Thank you
:10:13. > :10:16.very much. There'll be a new man wielding
:10:17. > :10:19.the red ministerial box on the steps of Downing Street tomorrow -
:10:20. > :10:21.Philip Hammond, in his first big set piece announcement as Chancellor,
:10:22. > :10:41.will make his Autumn Statement. Tomorrow is a big day for the UK
:10:42. > :10:46.Government when we will here for the first time about the spending
:10:47. > :10:50.priorities of the Theresa May administration. There has been a lot
:10:51. > :10:54.of focus on improving the economy and helping less well off families
:10:55. > :10:59.but, with a big budget deficit, there is not enough money to go
:11:00. > :11:04.around and not everyone will be happy, so where should the spending
:11:05. > :11:08.priorities lie? We are seeing families literally going without
:11:09. > :11:16.electricity and gas in order to pay for food, who are not giving their
:11:17. > :11:21.kids the healthy food they want to. We want to see the Chancellor act of
:11:22. > :11:27.the government's apparent support for families who are just about
:11:28. > :11:32.managing. We want to see that concern translated into action and
:11:33. > :11:37.that means reversing George Osborne's cut the universal credit
:11:38. > :11:41.as well as ending the freeze on benefits, so starting to operate
:11:42. > :11:45.family benefits in line with inflation. Unless we see that
:11:46. > :11:49.action, we will see families who are just about managing now being tipped
:11:50. > :11:57.over the edge and pushed into even greater hardship in the future. We
:11:58. > :12:00.really need something that will help people start investing in consumer
:12:01. > :12:07.spending and getting the investment they need. You get the biggest bang
:12:08. > :12:11.for your buck if you spent locally. So rather than some of the big grand
:12:12. > :12:15.designs we have seen floated in the past, real spending on things like
:12:16. > :12:20.local roads or projects will make things easier. That is exactly where
:12:21. > :12:26.we will see the big investment. What is important is getting the mobile
:12:27. > :12:31.phone network right in broadband. Too many places in Scotland are
:12:32. > :12:35.still struggling with two G. It is what the customers expect and what
:12:36. > :12:44.you expect is a business person, so the more we can do to express the
:12:45. > :12:47.funding gaps, the more the we can do. We are a vital part of the UK
:12:48. > :12:55.economy. We employ thousands of people right across the UK. What we
:12:56. > :12:58.hope the new Chancellor will continue to show is confidence in
:12:59. > :13:02.our sector and recognise our capabilities as part of his work
:13:03. > :13:08.tomorrow in the Autumn Statement. It is vital for us to have fiscal
:13:09. > :13:12.stability and that we see confidence in our industry, recognising the
:13:13. > :13:13.capabilities we have to be more competitive, and build on that the
:13:14. > :13:17.years come. Now, it will be Philip Hammond's
:13:18. > :13:22.first in the role and the first opportunity to outline his spending
:13:23. > :13:24.priorities as Britain So what might be the ripple effects
:13:25. > :13:27.here in Scotland? I'm joined now by our Business
:13:28. > :13:34.and Economy Editor Douglas Fraser. These things are always much
:13:35. > :13:38.previewed but already the night, we are getting the details. I am
:13:39. > :13:44.beginning to wonder if you will have much news to say tomorrow! Quite a
:13:45. > :13:48.lot of detail has been released by the Treasury for tomorrow's
:13:49. > :13:53.newspaper headlines. Going beyond what we already heard, which was a
:13:54. > :13:57.big spend on broadband to get the full fibre, a new generation of
:13:58. > :14:02.broadband connection and supporting the roll out of five G or hearing
:14:03. > :14:07.about roads, other infrastructure, smaller projects they can get to
:14:08. > :14:14.quicker had been talked about. What we also know now is ?1.4 billion is
:14:15. > :14:19.going into affordable housing in particular. 40,000 new homes. I
:14:20. > :14:23.would expect a consequence of that would be more money coming to
:14:24. > :14:29.Holyrood for it to decide how spend that money. And also, on the work
:14:30. > :14:33.and welfare agenda, the Prime Minister has talked about those who
:14:34. > :14:37.are just about managing. A number of measures to those people who feel
:14:38. > :14:43.that life is particularly tough at the moment. They are quite often the
:14:44. > :14:47.working poor. We are talking about a higher national living wage,
:14:48. > :14:53.universal credit. John Dickie there was saying there needs to be a
:14:54. > :14:56.reverse of the point at which people see a tapering away of credit as
:14:57. > :15:04.they begin to earn more money, so the incentive to earn more money
:15:05. > :15:08.would be better. And some other measures as well. For instance, the
:15:09. > :15:17.insurance bill on people's cars to come down as they ban the use of
:15:18. > :15:23.whiplash claims. Looking at the bigger picture, what is the economic
:15:24. > :15:28.challenge that Philip Hammond faces? Compared with George Osborne on his
:15:29. > :15:33.March budget, the context has changed utterly, particularly
:15:34. > :15:36.because of Brexit. The economy is not doing badly if you look from
:15:37. > :15:44.June until now in terms of inflation has picked up, and it will pick up
:15:45. > :15:48.more, because of the depreciation of the pound. The jobs picture is still
:15:49. > :15:53.pretty good right across Britain, given that we are still in emergency
:15:54. > :16:00.measures in terms of monetary policy. And consumer spending
:16:01. > :16:05.remains robust. So up until now, the growth through 2016 is staying
:16:06. > :16:09.steady but the problem is, next year, strong expectations across
:16:10. > :16:15.almost all economists. The economy will slow down, inflation will rise.
:16:16. > :16:19.With the economy slowing down, tax revenues will struggle, and that
:16:20. > :16:22.puts the Chancellor had a very different position, but in terms of
:16:23. > :16:27.where the whole economy is but also in terms of the balance between
:16:28. > :16:34.taxation and spending. They have ripped up the rules they have.
:16:35. > :16:40.We will find out tomorrow what the new rules will be. She will have to
:16:41. > :16:44.be clear to the market, backbenchers and to the public that he has a
:16:45. > :16:50.plan. What will we hear about Scotland specifically? They will
:16:51. > :16:57.spend more on infrastructure or housing, if they do that, part of it
:16:58. > :17:03.will come through the Barnett Formula, into Scotland for Derek
:17:04. > :17:07.Mackay in his just budget to decide how he is going to spend extra
:17:08. > :17:16.money. How he will spend all the budget for 2017 and 2018. More
:17:17. > :17:25.powers for income tax and what he can do to mitigate welfare cuts. He
:17:26. > :17:32.will therefore next financial year make decisions about whether he uses
:17:33. > :17:39.any of these powers, and he is cautious according to the SNP
:17:40. > :17:43.Government. There will be a response to what Philip Hammond says for
:17:44. > :17:50.Derek Mackay. He has a short periods to turn that around and four MSPs to
:17:51. > :17:53.make their judgment on the budget. -- for MSPs.
:17:54. > :17:56.A group of charities issued a joint warning today that people
:17:57. > :17:57.with disabilities still face discrimination,
:17:58. > :18:01.They asked 80 people what life was like for them.
:18:02. > :18:05.And they said they simply didn't feel like equal members of society.
:18:06. > :18:11.Well, I've been speaking to Delia Henry from
:18:12. > :18:13.Disability Agenda Scotland, which published this report...
:18:14. > :18:15.And John Clarke, who volunteers with Enable Scotland and has
:18:16. > :18:32.John, is there still a lot of prejudice around people with
:18:33. > :18:40.learning disabilities? There is... There are sort the Lee certain jobs
:18:41. > :18:48.I have done. In charge of opening up and locking the shop. The manager
:18:49. > :18:58.felt I was taking family first. It was a volunteer job. Why get rid of
:18:59. > :19:06.you for doing a volunteer job? You are asking time off to take your
:19:07. > :19:11.family to the Dr or whatever. A disgrace. Did you know your rights?
:19:12. > :19:19.Know. I have a learning disability so I didn't know if I would have any
:19:20. > :19:22.rights. Really, there was nothing that I did because I didn't know
:19:23. > :19:28.there was anything I was able to do because they have a learning
:19:29. > :19:33.disability. -- I have a learning disability. Going about your daily
:19:34. > :19:40.business, do you feel equal with everyone else? No. Wherever you are,
:19:41. > :19:51.I am still getting picked on. If I am on a bus when I was at school, I
:19:52. > :19:59.had a speech problem. I got to the Lee taken out of the class. I went
:20:00. > :20:02.to a special unit. I still get called names. I think everyone
:20:03. > :20:08.should be treated the same as everyone else. You didn't ask to be
:20:09. > :20:15.born with a learning disability. Why should you be treated different?
:20:16. > :20:23.That is shocking, isn't it? We are still dealing with prejudice and
:20:24. > :20:26.name-calling. It is dreadful. At Disability Agenda Scotland, we as
:20:27. > :20:31.people like John about their experiences. It is all very well for
:20:32. > :20:36.charities to say it is discrimination and stigma. We spoke
:20:37. > :20:41.to people like John critically to get their experiences. Without it
:20:42. > :20:45.was getting worse, people were telling us that. We are not sure why
:20:46. > :20:51.but there is a lot of evidence to say that systems, the new welfare
:20:52. > :20:56.system, Social Security is being much more difficult for people. It
:20:57. > :21:02.is putting people under stress. We know people are telling us, like
:21:03. > :21:09.John's experience, in the public that, critically, they are not being
:21:10. > :21:15.treated well. This is not a small issue, there are 1 million people
:21:16. > :21:22.with a disability in Scotland. This report we have launched today is
:21:23. > :21:30.about raising the issues and asking the public to treat people with
:21:31. > :21:43.dignity. John, what could make your life better's? Treating everyone the
:21:44. > :21:52.same. Being listened to and have someone there to listen to you. And
:21:53. > :21:57.for people to be patient? Yes. Do you get rushed at a job interview or
:21:58. > :22:07.maybe if people like yourself are looking for benefits for example. It
:22:08. > :22:12.is high-pressure? Yes. The benefits thing, it is a nightmare. You get
:22:13. > :22:17.asked to go for a work focused interview every two or three months.
:22:18. > :22:25.You get a different person each time. With me having a learning
:22:26. > :22:35.disability, I would prefer to see the same face each time I go and not
:22:36. > :22:38.see a different face. And I have chosen the Lee told them, they keep
:22:39. > :22:44.asking when I can look for a job, I say, well, I am stressed out, I am
:22:45. > :22:51.waiting to see a counsellor. They have the cheek to ask me how long I
:22:52. > :22:56.think I will be on the counsellor's waiting list. How long I will be
:22:57. > :23:00.stressed for? How long is a piece of string? That is what you have to say
:23:01. > :23:07.to them. They are not happy with the answer you give. It is not just read
:23:08. > :23:15.forward prejudice and dissemination. Often down to the system? Down to
:23:16. > :23:22.lack of funding? -- discrimination. We are seeing public sector budgets
:23:23. > :23:27.being cut, so is it getting worse? It is a challenge. We are hearing
:23:28. > :23:33.that the thought of going to these assessments is even a challenge.
:23:34. > :23:38.John has talked about the stress. Importantly, people with a
:23:39. > :23:41.disability want to work. But we know 75% of the working population,
:23:42. > :23:47.working age population, who don't have a disability are working. Only
:23:48. > :23:51.just over 40% of people with a disability are working. Given the
:23:52. > :23:58.financial pressures of the Social Security system, it is a really big
:23:59. > :24:03.challenge. If you want to work, motivated to do it, not able to get
:24:04. > :24:06.a job. We are looking for the importance of giving people
:24:07. > :24:11.individual support, know the individual, treat them with dignity,
:24:12. > :24:15.if you can get support and get into a job it will take a great
:24:16. > :24:19.difference to your dignity. With me now to discuss some
:24:20. > :24:22.of today's news are the author and political commentator
:24:23. > :24:31.Gerry Hassan and the health We were talking at the start of the
:24:32. > :24:41.programme about maternity wards. The Health Secretary says that Spielberg
:24:42. > :24:45.bull stillbirth levels are the lowest ever. But it is often not
:24:46. > :24:52.dealt with very well, as we have seen. To put yourself in the
:24:53. > :24:58.position of losing a baby, it must be the most dramatic circumstance. I
:24:59. > :25:05.am also concerned for women who are due to have their babies soon. It is
:25:06. > :25:09.important they know that having a baby in Scotland has never been
:25:10. > :25:15.safer than now. We have a patient safety programme. Over the last
:25:16. > :25:23.eight years it has addressed issues of adverse events in our hospitals.
:25:24. > :25:27.Stillbirths are down 18%, the lowest level ever. It is important that
:25:28. > :25:34.people going into maternity hospitals know that now. How health
:25:35. > :25:37.boards and systems handle caring for people who have been through
:25:38. > :25:43.dramatic events is something that obviously needs to be dealt with.
:25:44. > :25:48.Still, if people like Kenny Gibson and his family has to wait five
:25:49. > :25:52.years. That is an astonishing amount of time. When I was a news
:25:53. > :25:57.journalist, the people who spoke to me about debt problems, they didn't
:25:58. > :26:04.want compensation. They wanted to know what had happened. -- care
:26:05. > :26:10.problems. They wanted to know that lessons had learnt and it wouldn't
:26:11. > :26:15.happen again. Surely the biggest problem is the lack of
:26:16. > :26:19.accountability? One of the families in Ayrshire and Arran who lost their
:26:20. > :26:27.child four years ago, they said no one asked us our story. You hear the
:26:28. > :26:30.pain for years on. And the rightful anger of Kenny Gibson. He has been
:26:31. > :26:35.critical of his Government appropriately. Talking about
:26:36. > :26:40.accountability, a whistle-blower in Ayrshire. There are lots of good
:26:41. > :26:48.news stories about public services, things like stillbirth, but Ayrshire
:26:49. > :26:54.and Arran have the highest rate of death of newborn babies anywhere in
:26:55. > :27:01.Britain. It is the fact I want people to know. If I heard people
:27:02. > :27:05.saying it was about short staffing of maternity, if that is the case,
:27:06. > :27:09.that is one of the strongest argument for centralising specialist
:27:10. > :27:18.services such as maternity. If we are spreading our resource to then
:27:19. > :27:24.-- too thin. Let's look at that. It takes a brave minister to do that.
:27:25. > :27:28.Do you want to hear heartbreaking stories if they are avoidable? If
:27:29. > :27:31.they are avoidable, that is a big if.
:27:32. > :27:32.Well, President-elect Donald Trump has been busy,
:27:33. > :27:34.announcing he'll abandon the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade
:27:35. > :27:40.Suggesting Nigel Farage become UK ambassador to the US.
:27:41. > :27:44.And, according to one associate of Mr
:27:45. > :27:47.Farage, who met him in New York last week, he's not very happy
:27:48. > :27:58.He think Scotland is the most beautiful country in the world. That
:27:59. > :28:05.he does not like wind farms. When I look out of my window, she says, the
:28:06. > :28:11.windmills of enemy. Nigel, you have to do something about this. Put them
:28:12. > :28:18.off shore, why spoil the countryside? He has asked about
:28:19. > :28:22.getting rid of wind farms, get them off shore, I don't want to the most
:28:23. > :28:32.beautiful country ever to be sullied by these awful windmills. Hasn't he
:28:33. > :28:39.got bigger issues? What we will find with Donald Trump is that small
:28:40. > :28:44.issues matter to him, in a negative way. He is thin skin. He pursues
:28:45. > :28:51.vendettas. He has lost the popular vote by 2 million votes. An
:28:52. > :28:59.accidental presidency. Ten years ago, he was a so-called Liberal
:29:00. > :29:03.Democrat in New York. This will be a toxic, pick and mix presidency. It
:29:04. > :29:10.will cause problems for the Democrats and the Republican Party
:29:11. > :29:21.and the rest of the world. If you will be difficult, how will Scottish
:29:22. > :29:24.politicians react? He seems to be vengeful and will stop at nothing to
:29:25. > :29:32.take his revenge on people who see things has slighted him. He will be
:29:33. > :29:35.pursuing his own business interests through his presidency, it has been
:29:36. > :29:47.set, and the wind farms back that up. But there are people suggesting
:29:48. > :29:51.that Nigel Farage ought to be the UK ambassador to the United States,
:29:52. > :29:57.which is an extraordinary suggestion. It shows that it is
:29:58. > :30:04.almost surreal, I think. If you are the Prime Minister, you are looking
:30:05. > :30:11.to get a good deal post Brexit, does it not make sense to use whoever you
:30:12. > :30:18.can to get a good deal? That is terrible logic. Donald Trump once do
:30:19. > :30:24.conventional politics because he isn't a conventional politician,
:30:25. > :30:32.which is why he got elected. And then it moves on to the Tories and
:30:33. > :30:36.their internal strife. Nigel Farage is being used and she is being used
:30:37. > :30:41.-- and she is using people as well. That's it for tonight.
:30:42. > :30:43.Thanks for watching. I'm back again tomorrow
:30:44. > :30:45.night, usual time. So do please join me then,
:30:46. > :31:30.bye-bye. There are so many moments when you
:31:31. > :31:36.walk outside how tiring I'd find it.
:31:37. > :31:45.It's overwhelming. Welcome to Scotland's most remote
:31:46. > :31:49.inhabited island. Came to Fair Isle and fell in love
:31:50. > :31:54.with Fair Isle.