Part 2

:00:00. > :00:00.SNP, the MSP for Dundee City West. It is coming up to six o'clock on

:00:00. > :00:09.BBC One. You are watching this BBC referendum special from Glasgow. The

:00:10. > :00:13.BBC is now forecasting firmly that this is a No vote in the

:00:14. > :00:24.independence referendum. Your response?

:00:25. > :00:32.I am delighted we are having a No vote. East Dunbartonshire had the

:00:33. > :00:38.highest turnout in the country, so that is good. The engagement the

:00:39. > :00:43.public have, have displayed with this debate, seeing turnouts in 80%

:00:44. > :00:49.in a lot of areas, has been something which all sides can

:00:50. > :00:55.welcome. It means we have a good base to move forward so everybody

:00:56. > :00:58.can say Scotland have had its say. People have expressed what we think

:00:59. > :01:02.and we can move forward and hope we can do that together using the

:01:03. > :01:06.passion on both sides of the argument because we do want to see

:01:07. > :01:11.the best future for Scotland. When David Cameron speaks later, what

:01:12. > :01:16.does he need to say in order to convince you change is on its way?

:01:17. > :01:23.We will be listening very careful to what he does say. The SNP government

:01:24. > :01:30.operate as a team and we will make a decision after. She is right, the

:01:31. > :01:35.energy of this campaign, the enthusiasm of voters on both sides

:01:36. > :01:37.getting involved in politics for the first time and the number of people

:01:38. > :01:44.who have registered for the first time. In my city, Dundee, there was

:01:45. > :01:48.a yes vote and 8000 you people went on to the register for the first

:01:49. > :01:54.time. It is something we make sure we catch that and hold onto it, as

:01:55. > :01:59.we move Scotland forward. I think we are close to an important moment, at

:02:00. > :02:05.the moment where the No campaign will reach its target and I think it

:02:06. > :02:10.is going to do that in Fife which is Gordon Brown's area. Let's have a

:02:11. > :02:19.look at the declaration Hall in Fife. They will be getting ready

:02:20. > :02:23.soon. I think we should stay on these images because if we get the

:02:24. > :02:31.declaration I think it will be the declaration that takes everybody

:02:32. > :02:36.over the finishing line. Sarah, why is this of interest to others, not

:02:37. > :02:40.least because it could take us into the final outcome? Given what we

:02:41. > :02:44.have seen, we expect this will probably be a No vote. But going

:02:45. > :02:50.into this election when we did not know what this was going to be, a

:02:51. > :02:59.lot of it is quite prosperous, but there are high levels of

:03:00. > :03:05.deprivation, Gordon Brown is the MP. Sir Menzies Campbell is the MP for

:03:06. > :03:14.North East Fife so there is a strong tradition of Better Together. If it

:03:15. > :03:17.goes along with the pattern of the rest of Scotland, I think it will be

:03:18. > :03:24.a decisive No vote. I mentioned Gordon Brown to start clearly

:03:25. > :03:28.because I am wondering whether his very energetic appearance towards

:03:29. > :03:33.the end of the campaign, I am not suggesting he had not appeared

:03:34. > :03:36.before, but his energetic intervention towards the end, will

:03:37. > :03:44.they have done something to the vote in Fife because of who he is and

:03:45. > :03:47.where it is? May have done. It is a big question whether it was his

:03:48. > :03:51.intervention late in the campaign. He had made a few speeches before

:03:52. > :03:57.but he threw himself into it in the last fortnight and he came up with

:03:58. > :04:01.the promises of extra powers, came up with the timetable and was making

:04:02. > :04:07.some forceful arguments. Difficult to say if he has swayed the voters

:04:08. > :04:10.to change their minds whether Scotland was always preparing to

:04:11. > :04:17.vote no and he tapped into some of that. Together thought he doing good

:04:18. > :04:23.work for them and they sidelined both Alastair Darling and Ed

:04:24. > :04:27.Miliband. I made a call a couple of days ago which I said, this Ed

:04:28. > :04:33.Miliband event is going to be too late to get on the Ten O'Clock News

:04:34. > :04:41.and I was told, you noticed, did you? It was clear he was not seen as

:04:42. > :04:46.a vote winner. His trust ratings were as bad as David Cameron's in

:04:47. > :04:50.Scotland. There was a conscious decision that Alastair Darling had

:04:51. > :04:57.suffered in the second debate with Alec Salmond. Gordon Brown spoke to

:04:58. > :05:04.the part of the electorate that had to be run -- won over. What was

:05:05. > :05:08.interesting is during this campaign when Ed Miliband did come to

:05:09. > :05:14.Scotland, he looked uncomfortable. He did not look like he was in

:05:15. > :05:20.natural Labour territory. Even David Cameron at Chile looked a bit more

:05:21. > :05:28.comfortable than Ed Miliband. -- actually. It is a problem for Labour

:05:29. > :05:32.in Scotland going into the 20 15th election, going into the 2016

:05:33. > :05:38.Holyrood election, if you have a labour leader who cannot speak to

:05:39. > :05:42.the Labour heartlands. We are still on the images in Fife. We are

:05:43. > :05:48.expecting the declaration from Fife and we are expecting that to tip the

:05:49. > :05:54.No campaign over the line and to be able to declare the No campaign has

:05:55. > :05:59.won this independence referendum in Scotland. Andrew Marr is on the

:06:00. > :06:05.outskirts of Edinburgh. Forgive me if I interrupt you, if we get this

:06:06. > :06:10.declaration, but I am wondering at this point, we are on the verge of

:06:11. > :06:15.the formal confirmation of the victory of the No vote, your

:06:16. > :06:21.thoughts? This is the moment we can go off and get taken some wedges, I

:06:22. > :06:28.hope! It is clear what is happening now. -- bacon sandwiches. Scotland

:06:29. > :06:32.has delivered a shock which will change the British system. What I

:06:33. > :06:39.have seen over the last half an hour of interviews is a very important

:06:40. > :06:42.and potentially damaging split. All the Labour politicians are prepared

:06:43. > :06:47.to seek federal parliaments or assembly but not an English

:06:48. > :06:52.Parliament. Lots of Tory MPs want to see an English federal parliament.

:06:53. > :06:57.It is a big split. I don't see how that will be resolved between the

:06:58. > :06:59.parties. Labour does not want an English Parliament because they

:07:00. > :07:04.would not dominate in the foreseeable future. There is a big

:07:05. > :07:08.argument coming up between the Conservatives and the Labour Party

:07:09. > :07:12.would Liberal Democrats probably somewhere in the middle. It is the

:07:13. > :07:17.kind of thing that could produce a very long delay before we get real

:07:18. > :07:20.radical change. I think a Scottish parliament will get its extra powers

:07:21. > :07:25.relatively soon as promised by Gordon Brown. But the English

:07:26. > :07:30.question will fester for some time to come.

:07:31. > :07:36.The Scottish Independence Referendum Bill on the 18th of September 20

:07:37. > :07:44.14th hereby certify and declare, the total number of ballot papers

:07:45. > :07:50.counted in the referendum is 254,162 and the turnout is 84.1%.

:07:51. > :08:19.APPLAUSE The total number of votes cast is as

:08:20. > :08:29.follows. Yes, 114,148. No, 139,788. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

:08:30. > :08:39.there were 226 reject did ballots. The reason for rejection are as

:08:40. > :08:42.follows. We have the results from Fife and just to underline what has

:08:43. > :08:48.happened, because this is a significant results, the No

:08:49. > :08:57.campaign, a very big majority for them in Fife. 55% to 45% and that

:08:58. > :09:02.means we are approaching the moment where we can say exactly what has

:09:03. > :09:09.happened in this referendum. And that is it, Scotland has voted no in

:09:10. > :09:13.this referendum on independence. The results in Fife has taken the No

:09:14. > :09:18.campaign over the line and the official results of this referendum

:09:19. > :09:23.is no. It is a significant moment, Sarah? What was make clear

:09:24. > :09:27.throughout this campaign is the status quo was not on the ballot

:09:28. > :09:31.paper. If you voted no, which is what the country has done, you are

:09:32. > :09:35.not voting for things to stay the same. But it was never clear how

:09:36. > :09:42.they were going to change. We will be talking about that over the next

:09:43. > :09:49.few weeks, days and months, possibly years. There are huge questions

:09:50. > :09:51.raised by the scale of constitutional change and it is

:09:52. > :09:57.difficult to see how they can be sure -- sorted in a short time.

:09:58. > :10:03.Scotland has reject independence and has done it by a significant margin.

:10:04. > :10:09.It was Alec Salmond who said in advance, if this was the outcome, it

:10:10. > :10:13.would be it for a generation. Nicola Sturgeon said that meant for at

:10:14. > :10:17.least 15 years. When you look at this result, you might think it is

:10:18. > :10:22.over, the constitutional debate is at an end. Because the Yes vote has

:10:23. > :10:30.done so well, because it got over a million votes, it is in the mid 40%,

:10:31. > :10:35.it is clear there was some form of mandate for change. It was a wreck

:10:36. > :10:40.the random, not just on the constitutional status of Scotland at

:10:41. > :10:44.the entire political establishment and political class and many people

:10:45. > :10:50.rejected the status quo. The argument will begin, rather than end

:10:51. > :10:56.about what needs to change in Scotland to give it some form of

:10:57. > :11:02.certainty about it future governing relationships with Westminster. As a

:11:03. > :11:06.result of that it will unlock a great debates, not had before, about

:11:07. > :11:09.the governing arrangements in England, about extending them in

:11:10. > :11:15.Wales and extending them in Northern Ireland. In one sense we are at a

:11:16. > :11:19.profound moments, we are at the end of a journey for some people who

:11:20. > :11:25.have dreamt of Scottish independent, not just for weeks, months or years,

:11:26. > :11:28.decades. On another level we are at the beginning of a huge national

:11:29. > :11:36.conversation about how the UK changes. If you are just joining us,

:11:37. > :11:42.we can confirm the latest results in have taken the No campaign over the

:11:43. > :11:48.finishing line and Scotland has reject did independence and Scotland

:11:49. > :11:51.has voted to stay within the United Kingdom. This was the reaction in

:11:52. > :11:55.the Better Together headquarters a few moments ago.

:11:56. > :12:15.Jo Swinson and Joe Fitzpatrick still here. In this instance, you will be

:12:16. > :12:20.celebrating, if you whether you would be celebrating with them? I am

:12:21. > :12:25.delighted we have got this No vote. It is a good result for Scotland and

:12:26. > :12:30.a good result for the rest of the United Kingdom. I am very excited

:12:31. > :12:34.because this isn't just the end of the journey, it is the beginning of

:12:35. > :12:38.further change. As a Liberal Democrat I am excited about the

:12:39. > :12:43.prospect about the move towards more powers for the Scottish parliament.

:12:44. > :12:47.And that's constitutional question generally across the UK about

:12:48. > :12:52.getting power out of Westminster and back in the hands of people in

:12:53. > :12:55.communities up and down the country. It is an agenda I had not

:12:56. > :13:00.necessarily predict it. Two or three years ago when this debate started

:13:01. > :13:04.that we would be in this position, but I think it is incredible that we

:13:05. > :13:12.are. Now we have the official verdict, what do you say? I am

:13:13. > :13:15.hugely disappointed. I truly believe independence is the best way for

:13:16. > :13:21.Scotland to forge a better future. But we always said we would respect

:13:22. > :13:26.the people of Scotland so I congratulate the No campaign on

:13:27. > :13:29.their victory tonight. But the Better Together campaign is

:13:30. > :13:39.celebrating and campaigners can celebrate as well but what might be

:13:40. > :13:43.more difficult right now, they had a fantastic campaign involving people

:13:44. > :13:46.who had never been involved in politics before. I hope as we move

:13:47. > :13:52.forward, as the disappointment edges away a little bit, we can find a way

:13:53. > :13:58.to keep those people engaged in Scotland. Scottish politics has

:13:59. > :14:03.changed for ever. Some people expressed a view it would be

:14:04. > :14:08.difficult to mend some of the damage of the campaign? I think

:14:09. > :14:14.overwhelmingly, the campaign has been good-natured. There were small

:14:15. > :14:20.numbers of people on both sides who have let the country down, but these

:14:21. > :14:24.are tiny numbers of people. Overwhelmingly this has been a great

:14:25. > :14:30.experience for democracy and something Scotland can be proud of.

:14:31. > :14:35.And, I thought on any damage caused by and in the campaign and whether

:14:36. > :14:44.you think it is something that can heal quickly? What struck me during

:14:45. > :14:49.campaigning is there were some engaged debates and that was in

:14:50. > :14:52.family groups, friendships and workplaces on different sides of the

:14:53. > :14:59.debate. It was done in a good-natured way. The worst some

:15:00. > :15:02.exceptions to that which were quite worrying, but we do need to bring

:15:03. > :15:06.people together and one future for Scotland and use that energy and

:15:07. > :15:11.passion we have seen in the debate to help of the best future for

:15:12. > :15:16.Scotland. At this moment, I think it is worth telling viewers, people

:15:17. > :15:22.waking up to this news and I am just wanting to underline not just the

:15:23. > :15:24.result, but what we can now expect because we can now expect a

:15:25. > :15:30.statement later from Alec Salmond but before that, in fact here we

:15:31. > :16:03.are, on time, this is the First Minister and his response.

:16:04. > :16:27.Can I say thank you for that reception?

:16:28. > :16:28.But above all thank you to Scotland for 1.6 million votes for Scottish

:16:29. > :16:44.independence. Our friends in the Highlands of

:16:45. > :16:52.Scotland are still to speak so the final results are not in. But we

:16:53. > :16:57.know that there is going to be a majority for the No campaign and it

:16:58. > :17:02.is important to say that our referendum was an agreed and

:17:03. > :17:06.consensual process and Scotland has by majority decided not, at this

:17:07. > :17:11.stage, to become an independent country. I accept that verdict of

:17:12. > :17:17.the people, and I call on all of Scotland to follow suit in accepting

:17:18. > :17:17.the democratic verdict of the people of Scotland.

:17:18. > :17:35.APPLAUSE I think all of us in this campaign

:17:36. > :17:39.will say that the 55%, the 1.6 million votes, is a substantial vote

:17:40. > :17:54.for Scottish independence and the future of this country.

:17:55. > :18:02.Let us say something that I hope unites all campaigns and all Scots.

:18:03. > :18:05.I think the process by which we have made our decision as a nation

:18:06. > :18:15.reflects enormous credit upon Scotland. A turnout of 86% is one of

:18:16. > :18:21.the highest in the democratic world for any election or any referendum

:18:22. > :18:23.in history. This has been a triumph for the democratic process and for

:18:24. > :18:35.participation in politics. APPLAUSE

:18:36. > :18:42.And for example, the initiative by which 16 and 17-year-olds were able

:18:43. > :18:49.to vote has proved to be a resounding success. I suspect that

:18:50. > :18:52.no one will ever again dispute their right and ability to participate

:18:53. > :18:55.fully and responsibly in democratic elections.

:18:56. > :19:11.APPLAUSE So we now face the consequences of

:19:12. > :19:16.Scotland's decision. Firstly clause 30 of the Edinburgh Agreement is now

:19:17. > :19:19.in operation. On behalf of the Scottish Government, I accept the

:19:20. > :19:22.result and I pledge to work constructively in the interest of

:19:23. > :19:32.Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom. Secondly, the Unionist

:19:33. > :19:36.parties made flowers late in the campaign -- made promises late on a

:19:37. > :19:56.campaign to devolve more powers to Scotland. Scotland will expect these

:19:57. > :20:02.to be honoured in rapid course. Just as a reminder, we have been promised

:20:03. > :20:11.a second reading of a Scotland Bill by the 27th of March next year. And

:20:12. > :20:16.not just the 1.6 million Scots who voted for independence will demand

:20:17. > :20:20.that that timetable is followed, but all Scots who participated in this

:20:21. > :20:24.referendum will demand that that timetable is followed.

:20:25. > :20:40.APPLAUSE I have been speaking to the Prime

:20:41. > :20:44.Minister and will do shortly after this statement and I have a press

:20:45. > :20:49.conference today to reflect on that and the full results, but can I

:20:50. > :20:55.return thirdly to the empowerment of so many Scots entering the political

:20:56. > :21:00.process for the very first time? It is something that is so valuable and

:21:01. > :21:05.it have to be cherished, preserved and built upon. I have said it a

:21:06. > :21:10.number of times in this campaign that the most moving thing I saw was

:21:11. > :21:15.the queue of people in Dundee two or three weeks ago, patiently waiting

:21:16. > :21:20.to register to vote. Most of them for the first time ever deciding to

:21:21. > :21:30.participate in the democratic process. Today I met a 61-year-old

:21:31. > :21:36.lady just coming out of the polling station who had never voted before

:21:37. > :21:40.in her life. I met a soldier, a former soldier, who hadn't voted

:21:41. > :21:47.since he had left the army some 24 years ago. And these people were

:21:48. > :21:52.inspired to enter democratic politics by the thought that they

:21:53. > :21:59.could make a difference in building something better for the country.

:22:00. > :22:08.These are people who all of us as we campaign to have met and been

:22:09. > :22:13.inspired by. -- campaigned. All of us have been inspired by the people

:22:14. > :22:18.we encountered. Whatever else we can say about this referendum campaign,

:22:19. > :22:23.we have touched sections of the community who have never before been

:22:24. > :22:28.touched by politics. These sections of the community have touched us and

:22:29. > :22:32.touched the political process. I don't think that will ever be

:22:33. > :22:36.allowed to go back to business as usual in politics again.

:22:37. > :22:59.APPLAUSE So, friends, sometimes it is best to

:23:00. > :23:05.reflect where we are on a journey. 45%, 1.6 million of our fellow

:23:06. > :23:08.citizens voting for independence. I don't think that any of us whenever

:23:09. > :23:15.we entered politics would have thought such a thing to be either

:23:16. > :23:23.credible or possible. I think over the last few weeks, we have seen a

:23:24. > :23:27.scare and a fear of enormous proportions. Not the scaremongering

:23:28. > :23:31.directed at the Scottish people, but the scare and the fear at the heart

:23:32. > :23:35.of the Westminster establishment as they realised the mass movement of

:23:36. > :23:50.people but was going forward in Scotland. -- that was going forward

:23:51. > :23:57.in Scotland. And therefore, today of all days, as we bring Scotland

:23:58. > :24:02.together, let us not dwell on the distance we have fallen short. Let

:24:03. > :24:06.us dwell on the distance we have travelled and have confidence that

:24:07. > :24:10.the movement is abroad in Scotland. It will take this nation forward and

:24:11. > :24:13.we shall go forward as one nation. Thank you very much.

:24:14. > :24:28.APPLAUSE The First Minister, Alex Salmond,

:24:29. > :24:33.appearing at 6:20am in Edinburgh, and addressing his supporters, the

:24:34. > :24:40.Yes campaign, telling them not to dwell on the difference, the way in

:24:41. > :24:45.which they fell short of the target, but to dwell on the journey, and it

:24:46. > :24:48.has been a remarkable journey, when you think that a quarter of a

:24:49. > :24:55.century ago the SNP was considered by many to be some kind of fringe

:24:56. > :25:01.movement. Here we are in 2014 with a referendum on independence in

:25:02. > :25:05.Scotland and 45% of voters on an enormous turnout voting for

:25:06. > :25:10.independence. They didn't win, that is true. The No campaign has scored

:25:11. > :25:16.a handsome win, as we can demonstrate here at Pacific Quay in

:25:17. > :25:22.Glasgow. The No campaign has scored 55%, up 1.9 million votes, but one

:25:23. > :25:29.and a half million people in Scotland actively voted to suggest

:25:30. > :25:34.the -- rejected the union, and that has to be picked up now by other

:25:35. > :25:37.prounion parties who have been making big promises and ambitious

:25:38. > :25:41.pledges in the past few weeks. David Cameron is one of them and the Prime

:25:42. > :25:46.Minister will be appearing in Downing Street within the hour. We

:25:47. > :25:50.think it will be shortly after seven o'clock, possibly before 7:15am, to

:25:51. > :25:56.talk about his response and how he plans to deliver the pledge that was

:25:57. > :26:02.waived by the parties that Westminster during the last stages

:26:03. > :26:06.of this referendum campaign. James Landale is in Downing Street for us

:26:07. > :26:11.this morning. Could you give us a sense of the Prime Minister's

:26:12. > :26:15.response? Yes, what we know now is that the Prime Minister after seven

:26:16. > :26:20.o'clock this morning will make what his advisers are saying is a

:26:21. > :26:28.significant statement. He will speak, we are told, of the need for

:26:29. > :26:32.the UK to come together. He will speak not just about his plans for

:26:33. > :26:36.further devolution in Scotland. We are also told he will give a very

:26:37. > :26:40.clear direction of his plans for how he thinks the constitution, the

:26:41. > :26:44.devolution settlement, should also be changed and not just in Northern

:26:45. > :26:47.Ireland and Wales but also specifically in England. They are

:26:48. > :26:51.pointing us very clearly in that direction. They will not give

:26:52. > :27:13.chapter and verse, but there is a clear direction that this issue

:27:14. > :27:16.needs to be addressed and what his ideas should be. We are also told

:27:17. > :27:19.that he will give a sense that in his view it has been a clear result.

:27:20. > :27:21.To a certain extent a vindication of his decision to actually decide to

:27:22. > :27:24.hold this referendum and agree the format. His advisers have asked if

:27:25. > :27:28.it was the right question being asked, if it was right to allow 16

:27:29. > :27:33.and 17-year-olds to vote, and not to have the third option on the ballot

:27:34. > :27:38.paper, and the Prime Minister will say that those questions have been

:27:39. > :27:41.answered by the clear result that has taken place. We spoke to

:27:42. > :27:46.Alistair Darling a moment ago about the campaign and we know he will be

:27:47. > :27:49.speaking to First Minister Alex Salmond later. The Prime Minister

:27:50. > :27:54.has been up all night watching the results. He has been watching them

:27:55. > :27:58.come in all night. A statement is not too far away. The Prime Minister

:27:59. > :28:04.tweeted a short while ago saying that he would give his statement.

:28:05. > :28:09.Very helpful, not just giving a statement but giving operational

:28:10. > :28:15.notes these days! James Landale in Downing Street with a taste of what

:28:16. > :28:20.is to come later this morning, and within 45 minutes roughly the Prime

:28:21. > :28:23.Minister will give his response to the result of the Scottish

:28:24. > :28:27.referendum. There will be a weather report for you because lots of you

:28:28. > :28:33.will be joining us for the first time this morning. You are watching

:28:34. > :28:36.special coverage of the results of the Scottish independence

:28:37. > :28:38.referendum. There will be a full weather report shortly, so don't

:28:39. > :32:23.The time is 632 a.m. . If you are just joining us we are at the

:32:24. > :32:26.headquarters of BBC Scotland and we have been covering the results of

:32:27. > :32:33.the Scottish referendum which took place yesterday and the results have

:32:34. > :32:38.been coming in overnight. We can confirm the No campaign has one. The

:32:39. > :32:42.people of Scotland have rejected independence and have voted to stay

:32:43. > :32:48.in the union. Now it is time for a summary of the news.

:32:49. > :32:59.Voters in Scotland have rejected independence.

:33:00. > :33:03.The No Campaign has taken a strong lead of 55% against the Yes 45%.

:33:04. > :33:05.It's been a disappointing night for those hoping that Scotland

:33:06. > :33:19.On behalf of the Scottish Government I accept the result and I pledge to

:33:20. > :33:24.work constructively for Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom.

:33:25. > :33:30.Second, the Unionist party made vows late in the campaign to devolve more

:33:31. > :33:38.powers to Scotland. Scotland will expect these to be honoured in rapid

:33:39. > :33:45.course. It has been a disappointing night for the Yes campaign which has

:33:46. > :33:52.been ahead in only four areas. David Cameron has congratulated Alastair

:33:53. > :33:59.Darling on a well fought campaign. That is the word they are not used

:34:00. > :34:04.to saying, this is the official note campaign, celebrating Scotland

:34:05. > :34:09.saying no to independence. Their mood was in stark contrast to his.

:34:10. > :34:15.Alec Salmond about to concede defeat. The total number of votes on

:34:16. > :34:34.the referendum question is as follows. Yes, 16,350. No, 19,000...

:34:35. > :34:40.19,036. In central Scotland, it was the first council to declare with

:34:41. > :34:43.the majority of voters saying no. It sounded the alarm for the Yes

:34:44. > :34:49.campaign, it was clear the momentum was with their opponents. But there

:34:50. > :35:02.was some better news for the Yes campaign in Scotland's largest city.

:35:03. > :35:08.Yes, 194,000. Nope, 169,347. Glasgow wasn't the only city to say yes.

:35:09. > :35:16.Dundee also backed independence, but the SNP's deputy leader conceded it

:35:17. > :35:20.was unlikely to be enough. With over a million people voting at this

:35:21. > :35:23.stage for independence, many will have voted no to independence

:35:24. > :35:27.because they believed it would deliver substantial more powers for

:35:28. > :35:32.the Scottish parliament. Things will change in Scotland. The Scottish

:35:33. > :35:39.parliament will have enhanced powers. Turnout has been high from

:35:40. > :35:43.75% in Glasgow to more than 90% in sterling. Scotland will have voted

:35:44. > :35:49.to stay in the UK. The Prime Minister, David Cameron,

:35:50. > :35:51.is due to make In the event of a victory for the No

:35:52. > :35:57.campaign, he's expected to set out proposals to devolve more powers to

:35:58. > :36:14.the Scottish Parliament. We will ask Jeremy Vine to go to the

:36:15. > :36:17.story of the night so everybody joining us at breakfast time can

:36:18. > :36:20.catch up with some of the individual results because there were some

:36:21. > :36:24.dramatic results during the course of the evening. I have been joined

:36:25. > :36:34.by Doctor John Reid. Thanks the coming in. We will also be talking

:36:35. > :36:40.to the Scottish Secretary who is with Andrew Marr. All of that coming

:36:41. > :36:44.up and lots of reaction, taking in the magnitude of this result. It is

:36:45. > :36:49.a very big political milestone in the history of the United Kingdom.

:36:50. > :36:55.The first, Jeremy Vine will talk about what happened.

:36:56. > :37:04.It has been a long night. 32 council areas were voted in. We have all but

:37:05. > :37:08.one of the results. I will put them on the balcony and we will see the

:37:09. > :37:19.boats as they came in. Between 1am and 2am, we had just two. In between

:37:20. > :37:25.2am and 3am, the Western Isles. Not many votes at all. Between 3am and

:37:26. > :37:33.4am we had in the Clyde and Dundee and others. Dundee was the first

:37:34. > :37:38.yes. Then up to 4:30 a.m., Falkirk and sterling were those coming in.

:37:39. > :37:43.But we were waiting for the big councils and just after 4:30am

:37:44. > :37:50.Glasgow came in. All of these votes going on the balcony. Now you can

:37:51. > :37:55.see what is happening. The No campaign, well in the lead. The Yes

:37:56. > :38:01.campaign looking for some luck from somewhere. Between 5am and 6am we

:38:02. > :38:05.had South and East Ayrshire coming in and that point was when the BBC

:38:06. > :38:13.could forecast it would be a no vote. Then the winning line was

:38:14. > :38:17.crossed with Fife coming in. You see the votes on the balcony going past

:38:18. > :38:23.the winning line and the results of this extraordinary referendum that

:38:24. > :38:29.Scotland has voted no. There it is, in massive capital

:38:30. > :38:39.letters on our massive screen. That is the verdict, it is the people's

:38:40. > :38:45.verdict. We spoke last night about waiting for the people's verdict and

:38:46. > :38:50.it is a clear verdict, by 55% to 45% roughly, that is what has happened.

:38:51. > :38:55.They have rejected independence after a highly charged campaign. We

:38:56. > :39:01.will pick up on some of the points about the nature of the campaign.

:39:02. > :39:05.And also what the Prime Minister's reaction needs to be because so many

:39:06. > :39:10.people in Scotland have demonstrated an appetite for change. Let's join

:39:11. > :39:17.Andrew Marr. I started these long, dark hours

:39:18. > :39:23.with Alistair Carmichael, the Scottish secretary and so we end

:39:24. > :39:28.them. You know what the result is and you have heard Alec Salmond's

:39:29. > :39:35.acceptance speech. He said all Scots, not just the 1.5 million who

:39:36. > :39:40.voted against the union will expect prompt new powers to be delivered?

:39:41. > :39:45.Indeed, Alec Salmond can be part of the process of delivering this. We

:39:46. > :39:51.wanted a decision which would a fair, legal and decisive. We have

:39:52. > :39:54.achieved all three, I went. The people of Scotland will want to hear

:39:55. > :40:01.tonight it is accepted by nationalists this is what the people

:40:02. > :40:05.once and we will not be coming back to this. He should part of the

:40:06. > :40:13.process in defining what the extra power should be. He had great fun on

:40:14. > :40:20.your programme not so long ago calling it team Scotland. He now

:40:21. > :40:25.should come into the team and work along with the rest, he has a

:40:26. > :40:33.contribution to make. We will see the detail of Scotland built early

:40:34. > :40:37.next year, by January? We will be publishing the draft clauses

:40:38. > :40:42.according to the timetable, by the beginning of next year. It will be a

:40:43. > :40:47.demanding timetable, requiring a lot of hard work and good will buy a lot

:40:48. > :40:54.of people, not just the political parties. Business, churches and

:40:55. > :40:58.trade unions, that is how we build consensus in this country. Back to

:40:59. > :40:59.the studio. Go straight to Edinburgh and

:41:00. > :41:09.Alastair Darling. We have chosen unity over division

:41:10. > :41:18.and positive change rather than needless separation. Two Day is a

:41:19. > :41:25.mentor 's results for Scotland and also for the United Kingdom as a

:41:26. > :41:30.whole. By confirming our place within the union, we have reaffirmed

:41:31. > :41:36.all we have in common and the bonds that tight as to gather. Let them

:41:37. > :41:44.never be broken. -- Tigers to gather.

:41:45. > :41:56.As we celebrate, we must listen. More than 85% of the Scottish

:41:57. > :41:58.population voted. People who were disengaged from politics have turned

:41:59. > :42:05.out in large numbers. While they have voted for the constitution, it

:42:06. > :42:09.was not the only or perhaps the only issue that drove them to the polls.

:42:10. > :42:13.Every political party must now listen to their cry for change,

:42:14. > :42:20.which could be echoed in every part of our United Kingdom, but had the

:42:21. > :42:23.opportunity to express itself first in Scotland. To those who have

:42:24. > :42:24.supported us and the great team of volunteers...

:42:25. > :42:37.in Scotland. To those who have supported us and the great team of

:42:38. > :42:41.volunteers... All of you, all of the political parties who have worked

:42:42. > :42:49.for this outcome, I want to say thank you from the bottom of my

:42:50. > :42:52.heart. Thank you very much. You represent the majority of opinion

:42:53. > :43:00.and your voices have been heard. We have taken on the argument and we

:43:01. > :43:07.have one. The Silent have spoken. -- one.

:43:08. > :43:14.Of course, I understand amongst those who supported yes, there will

:43:15. > :43:18.be disappointed or even grief. Defeat is painful and I can tell you

:43:19. > :43:23.that from my own personal experience. I know there are many

:43:24. > :43:28.people with deep and genuine commitment to Scotland on the yes

:43:29. > :43:36.side. They will and must continue to make their contribution to the

:43:37. > :43:42.political debate in our country. But that debate must move on from the

:43:43. > :43:46.constitution to the day and daily issues that affect their lives and

:43:47. > :43:52.prospects. The Scottish Parliament must use those of the powers it

:43:53. > :43:59.holds now and those which are coming to it, to address those concerns.

:44:00. > :44:11.When the Scottish Parliament was born we talked about devolution

:44:12. > :44:17.being a journey. It is proud that the Scottish politics is so vibrant

:44:18. > :44:23.and alive. I am clear the parties who have made shared commitments to

:44:24. > :44:37.change must start to translate those actions into commitment. I give you

:44:38. > :44:41.my commitment to support that. We will work with the people of

:44:42. > :44:46.Scotland in ad van sing these commitments. We must also recognise

:44:47. > :44:52.the debate has created some deep divisions in our country. It has

:44:53. > :44:55.been a campaign that has both energised, but at times divided and

:44:56. > :45:01.some people have felt unable to speak except through the ballot

:45:02. > :45:05.box. Those divisions need to be addressed and that requires

:45:06. > :45:10.leadership. My colleagues and I will play our part in bringing our

:45:11. > :45:18.country together to demonstrate that after this vote we can remain

:45:19. > :45:27.united. It has not been an easy campaign. Campaigning against Yes

:45:28. > :45:29.for change is sometimes campaign. Campaigning against Yes

:45:30. > :45:33.for change is sometimes difficult to argue for No. We were obliged to

:45:34. > :45:37.point out that some of the arguments for separation were going to cause

:45:38. > :45:43.damage to our country, but we had to do that because those risks were

:45:44. > :45:46.real and it is a tribute to the good sense of the Scottish people that

:45:47. > :45:56.they decided these risks were too great to take. But the vote is over

:45:57. > :46:02.and the Scottish people have now given their verdict. We have made a

:46:03. > :46:07.decision for progress and change for Scotland and for the United Kingdom.

:46:08. > :46:07.Come on, Scotland. Let's get on with it together.

:46:08. > :46:30.CROWD CHEERS Headquarters in Glasgow. Alistair

:46:31. > :46:33.Darling, who chaired the No campaign and of course featured in the

:46:34. > :46:38.debates with Alex Salmond during what was at times it very highly

:46:39. > :46:43.charged campaign. But speaking there and laying down the law, really.

:46:44. > :46:46.Saying yes, change has to come, but pointing out that the Scottish

:46:47. > :46:51.Parliament already has powers that in its view they are not using as

:46:52. > :46:55.they might. A mixed message there. We are still looking forward to the

:46:56. > :46:59.statement by the Prime Minister, Mr Cameron, in Downing Street and the

:47:00. > :47:04.next half an hour. Watching that with me, we have John Reid, who

:47:05. > :47:11.spoke to us several hours ago now. And Joe McAlpine of the SNP. Thank

:47:12. > :47:15.you both for joining us. First of all, Alistair Darling's message,

:47:16. > :47:19.acknowledging it has not been an easy campaign, but saying

:47:20. > :47:23.essentially people had not responded to fear. They had responded to a

:47:24. > :47:29.positive message. Let's have your view on that first. First of all it

:47:30. > :47:34.has been a robust campaign and it has been a very long campaign. Not

:47:35. > :47:37.just the two years of this campaign. We have been discussing this whole

:47:38. > :47:43.thing in Scotland for at least 40 years during my time. The people

:47:44. > :47:48.have now spoken, the votes have been counted, there will be as clear, it

:47:49. > :47:52.is decisive. The settled will of the Scottish people is that we should

:47:53. > :47:58.continue to play a part along with the other nations in the United

:47:59. > :48:02.Kingdom. That is the first thing that is absolutely clear now. Let's

:48:03. > :48:06.not have any more that we might have a referendum next week or next year.

:48:07. > :48:11.The second thing is that there are a significant number of people who

:48:12. > :48:19.want a greater degree of autonomy in our affairs and, because I don't

:48:20. > :48:23.believe the Yes vote was all about that, there are a lot of people

:48:24. > :48:27.alienated from politics in general. Probably not just in Scotland but

:48:28. > :48:31.throughout the UK. We have to address both of those. The third

:48:32. > :48:36.thing is reconciliation. We should have respect for each other. I do

:48:37. > :48:40.for Alex Salmond. I thought his speech tonight was gracious. And

:48:41. > :48:45.Nicola Sturgeon. We are Scotsmen and women and we should work together to

:48:46. > :48:52.help the reconstruction of not only our own country but the United

:48:53. > :48:54.Kingdom because the whole idea of the sense of Britishness needs to be

:48:55. > :48:59.modernised. The constitution. And there are many other issues where we

:49:00. > :49:01.can work together. I hope that the Scottish National Party and Alex

:49:02. > :49:05.Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon will involve themselves in the

:49:06. > :49:09.discussions that we will now start about how we make the Scottish

:49:10. > :49:17.Parliament not only more powerful but more responsible by raising its

:49:18. > :49:26.own taxation. And in a wide if they sphere -- and in a wider sphere that

:49:27. > :49:31.we look at the dressing the needs of the rest of the UK. This vote was

:49:32. > :49:34.about being members of the club but if you are members of the club,

:49:35. > :49:40.changing the rules affect all of the members. What is your sense of what

:49:41. > :49:45.will happen now? The first thing is that we do accept this verdict and

:49:46. > :49:48.we do accept it with good grace. That was what the Edinburgh

:49:49. > :49:53.Agreement was all about, that we would accept the verdict of the

:49:54. > :49:57.Scottish people. I think we also have to accept that 1.6 million of

:49:58. > :50:03.the Scottish people voted for independence for Scotland. The

:50:04. > :50:13.question was quite clear. The people who voted yes you what they were

:50:14. > :50:18.voting for. -- they knew what they were voting for. I don't quite agree

:50:19. > :50:23.with John. You suggested that some of the Yes vote might be a protest

:50:24. > :50:27.vote against the bedroom tax, the inequality in the UK, the waste of

:50:28. > :50:34.money on Trident nuclear weapons. But people knew what they were

:50:35. > :50:39.voting for. They had been thrown a lot of very scary stories, and

:50:40. > :50:41.particularly in the weeks before the vote, so they went into the polling

:50:42. > :50:48.booth and they voted for independence in very large numbers.

:50:49. > :50:52.We are now talking about a process of reconciliation and I think the

:50:53. > :50:58.views of those 1.6 million Scots have to be taken on board. OK, OK.

:50:59. > :51:02.Important thoughts. Stay with us, please, because we have the Prime

:51:03. > :51:06.Minister talking very shortly. At this moment I would like to say

:51:07. > :51:10.thank you to our viewers on BBC World, the global audience watching

:51:11. > :51:13.the coverage, because they are leaving us. Thank you and we hope to

:51:14. > :51:18.see you on the next referendum special, whenever that is. In the

:51:19. > :51:21.meantime we are of course going to welcome more viewers joining us

:51:22. > :51:26.around the United Kingdom who at this time in the morning would be

:51:27. > :51:29.familiar with lots of regular features on Breakfast television,

:51:30. > :51:35.including the all-important weather. And my good friend Carol, the

:51:36. > :51:43.Inverness girl, is at Holyrood with the latest weather. Hello. Hello.

:51:44. > :51:49.You are quite right, I am in Edinburgh. As you can see it is a

:51:50. > :51:54.fairly dreich start to the day, cloudy, and misty. If you're heading

:51:55. > :52:02.out anywhere in the UK today, probably best to practical umbrella

:52:03. > :52:06.-- pack your umbrella. We have seen thundery downpours across England

:52:07. > :52:10.and Wales. Not all of us will catch them by any means but they will

:52:11. > :52:12.rumble on through the day. Starting the forecast at nine o'clock in

:52:13. > :52:17.Scotland, the brightest conditions will be in the West and around the

:52:18. > :52:21.Moray Firth. For the rest of Scotland it is a cloudy picture with

:52:22. > :52:26.drizzle coming in from the North Sea. North West England also seeing

:52:27. > :52:32.some sunshine and North East England having low cloud. Into the South,

:52:33. > :52:36.the Midlands, East Anglia, the South coast, this is where we are prone to

:52:37. > :52:41.catching further thundery downpours. They are hit and miss but if we

:52:42. > :52:44.catch one, we will know about it. We are not immune to them in the South

:52:45. > :52:50.West either, especially as we go through the latter part of the day.

:52:51. > :52:55.Into Wales, we have the risk of thundery downpours as we have seen.

:52:56. > :52:59.In between there will be bright spells and sunshine. In Northern

:53:00. > :53:03.Ireland, a murky start to the day with a fair bit of cloud and one or

:53:04. > :53:10.two showers. Through the course of the day, the risk of thunderstorms

:53:11. > :53:13.continues anywhere from Wales to the Midlands, East Anglia and

:53:14. > :53:17.southwards. In between there will be sunshine and we hang on to cloud

:53:18. > :53:26.coming in from the North Sea. Under the cloud the temperatures will be

:53:27. > :53:28.lower. Further South we are looking at temperatures in the sunshine

:53:29. > :53:31.being high but not as high as yesterday. Overnight we hang on to

:53:32. > :53:37.thunderstorms across Wales as parts of England. It will be humoured. In

:53:38. > :53:42.Scotland and Northern Ireland, with clearer skies, it will be cooler,

:53:43. > :53:48.single figures in rural areas, so quite a contrast. Saturday will be

:53:49. > :53:52.dry and bright in Scotland and Northern Ireland, brighter than it

:53:53. > :53:55.has been especially in the East. Then three showers across parts of

:53:56. > :54:00.England and Wales but it will improve from the North as the wind

:54:01. > :54:08.changes direction. -- thundery showers. The next day starts on a

:54:09. > :54:13.cool note, but more cloud comes in during the course of the day from

:54:14. > :54:18.the East. Temperatures again a bit lower. In summary, the showers will

:54:19. > :54:20.ease, the cloud will break up at times, and there will also be some

:54:21. > :54:33.sunshine. Thank you. More from Carol later

:54:34. > :54:37.on. We are at BBC Scotland in Glasgow and we have the result of

:54:38. > :54:41.this referendum on Scottish independence. There we are. The

:54:42. > :54:45.headquarters of BBC Scotland, projecting the figures for you. We

:54:46. > :54:49.still have one result to go but it will not make any difference to the

:54:50. > :54:56.verdict, which is that the people of Scotland have voted against

:54:57. > :55:01.independence. 1.9 million to 1.5 million voting in favour of

:55:02. > :55:04.independence. That is the verdict. We are expecting the Prime Minister

:55:05. > :55:09.David Cameron to add his thoughts in Downing Street and I can see that

:55:10. > :55:14.they are making preparations in Downing Street now, sorting out the

:55:15. > :55:17.lectern and testing the sound. Mr Cameron will be appearing in Downing

:55:18. > :55:23.Street in a short while and I expect that to happen in about 15 minutes.

:55:24. > :55:26.In the meantime, not too far away, if we pass through Parliament

:55:27. > :55:33.Square, we have Andrew Neil for us on College Green.

:55:34. > :55:37.What is going on? Thank you. We have moved out of our studio. It is a

:55:38. > :55:42.beautiful morning in London, very mild with not as much mist and fog

:55:43. > :55:45.as much mist and fog are going to talk about the constitutional

:55:46. > :55:49.implications. The Westminster party leaders had a panic attack and threw

:55:50. > :55:53.in much more devolution at the last minute and they now have to deliver

:55:54. > :55:58.on that. Plenty of people in that building say that is fine for

:55:59. > :56:07.Scotland but we want to know what it means for England of -- as well. Is

:56:08. > :56:11.this any way to change a constitution? It isn't. Many of

:56:12. > :56:15.these promises were made after many people had voted by post. And they

:56:16. > :56:20.were made without consulting Parliament, in which the majority of

:56:21. > :56:22.MPs represent English constituencies, and they will be

:56:23. > :56:26.unhappy about this and they will demand the English question is

:56:27. > :56:30.looked at again. This referendum has probably awakened the slumbering

:56:31. > :56:41.beast of English nationalism. That Sirius? I believe so. Gordon Brown

:56:42. > :56:45.said he believed there would have to be a second reading of the Scotland

:56:46. > :56:50.Bill by March, and you cannot do that and answered the English

:56:51. > :56:55.question. Quite right. That is an incredibly fast timetable. How will

:56:56. > :56:57.that be possible? And English devolution, we saw Andrew Marr

:56:58. > :57:05.talking about a federal solution to what we have at the moment, and that

:57:06. > :57:10.it would take years to put it in place. England looking after

:57:11. > :57:13.immigration and foreign policy, and then Menzies Campbell was talking

:57:14. > :57:18.about pensions, so what about benefits? In or out? How do you

:57:19. > :57:22.distinguish an issue that is purely Welsh or English because so many

:57:23. > :57:26.have knock-on effects to each other? It will be very difficult. The

:57:27. > :57:30.backbenches in there already are not happy. A Lott saying they do not

:57:31. > :57:34.feel represented and that Cameron is not listening to them and they will

:57:35. > :57:39.certainly be saying that this morning. When Parliament comes back,

:57:40. > :57:45.a lot of tough questions to answer. Can they get away with saying they

:57:46. > :57:48.will do Scotland and get to England later? I think Cameron will have to

:57:49. > :57:55.do that because nobody is clear how the inverse question will be

:57:56. > :57:59.answered. Even if we had never had the referendum debate, Scotland

:58:00. > :58:03.should have taxing powers. It was crazy to set up a Parliament with

:58:04. > :58:07.minimal powers to raise money when a local council can raise council tax.

:58:08. > :58:11.A body representing the people of Scotland without the power to raise

:58:12. > :58:15.money, so a pocket money Parliament getting money from Westminster, so

:58:16. > :58:18.when anything goes wrong they can always blame Westminster. We are

:58:19. > :58:21.talking not just about powers for the Scottish Parliament but fiscal

:58:22. > :58:35.responsibility, which must be a good thing. The sleeping giant of English

:58:36. > :58:38.nationalism is now fine if Scotland wants its own tax-raising powers. We

:58:39. > :58:40.understand that and are even in favour of it. But now we want

:58:41. > :58:44.England to have tax-raising powers, too. Yes, and people want equality.

:58:45. > :58:49.The end of the Barnett Formula, which was initially put in as a

:58:50. > :58:52.temporary formula and which people in England seek as a subsidy on

:58:53. > :58:58.Scotland now. These things pulled out of the bag by Gordon Brown may

:58:59. > :59:02.have won the vote, we will never know, but they have caused massive

:59:03. > :59:10.ructions in Westminster. One big victor from this will be UKIP. We

:59:11. > :59:14.will look at the Clacton by-election. UKIP think they have

:59:15. > :59:17.already won and they will be crowing, saying that devolution is

:59:18. > :59:22.ours and people do not feel represented. There has got to be a

:59:23. > :59:27.race for who speaks for England. Yes, but I agree that the party that

:59:28. > :59:35.will be most likely to speak for England will be UKIP, the nearest

:59:36. > :59:40.thing we have 28 English nationalist party, -- we have to an English

:59:41. > :59:44.nationalist party. Can you imagine any other country making changes to

:59:45. > :59:48.the constitution in a piecemeal and panicky way? That is fair enough but

:59:49. > :59:52.this is much to the credit of democracy. We have done it in a very

:59:53. > :59:57.fair way and the Catalans are asking for the same. We have had a

:59:58. > :00:01.democratic referendum and despite allegations of intimidation, it has

:00:02. > :00:04.roused civic spirit, especially among the young, so perhaps we

:00:05. > :00:13.should forgive the leaders for panicking. You are academic and

:00:14. > :00:18.generous! Back to Glasgow. Yes, 7 o'clock in the morning. If

:00:19. > :00:22.you are waking up and joining us on the BBC, this is our coverage of the

:00:23. > :00:27.Scottish referendum and the votes have been counted and all the

:00:28. > :00:34.results are in except one but the verdict is clear. 55% to 45%. The

:00:35. > :00:38.people of Scotland have rejected independence and they have decided

:00:39. > :00:45.to stay within the United Kingdom. But what kind of United Kingdom?

:00:46. > :00:48.What kind of reshaped, reformed, reconstituted United Kingdom will

:00:49. > :00:53.that be? The Prime Minister may well provide a few clues in a few

:00:54. > :00:57.seconds. Sarah and Nick are still with me and John Reid and Joe

:00:58. > :01:01.McAlpine, too. A quick word from each of you on what we are expecting

:01:02. > :01:17.here. The people have spoken, reject it

:01:18. > :01:22.independence. More than 1.5 million citizens voted to break away from

:01:23. > :01:27.the United Kingdom. The biggest city voted by a majority to leave the

:01:28. > :01:32.United Kingdom. And the British establishment believed in the last

:01:33. > :01:36.few days that Scotland would break away. So the Prime Minister is

:01:37. > :01:43.convinced he has 2 offer change, not just to Scotland, as was promised,

:01:44. > :01:45.but to the people of Northern Ireland, Wales, but particularly

:01:46. > :01:50.England. That is what this statement is about saying yes, independence is

:01:51. > :01:57.over and the Scots will get more powers in their Parliament and there

:01:58. > :02:01.was a promise to deal with the English question. Not create a

:02:02. > :02:05.parliament, create regional assemblies or new powers to the

:02:06. > :02:12.city, but in the immediate period after this referendum, that English

:02:13. > :02:17.MPs must not be allowed to be outvoted by Scottish and Welsh MPs

:02:18. > :02:21.on issues that affect England alone. It is controversial, it will be

:02:22. > :02:28.difficult that it does not require a new law. I believe David Cameron has

:02:29. > :02:33.the support of Nick Clegg to do this but he does not have cross-party

:02:34. > :02:38.agreement with Ed Miliband. We have a decisive vote, 55% to stay with

:02:39. > :02:43.the union, a substantial amount of people voting for change. The Prime

:02:44. > :02:48.Minister signed a pledge to say more powers are coming to Scotland. What

:02:49. > :02:57.powers, have not been agreed. We have a decisive 55% vote for we do

:02:58. > :03:01.know what because we were told it wasn't the status quo you are voting

:03:02. > :03:04.for, but we have not seen an outline of the plans for Scotland, England

:03:05. > :03:10.or the rest of the United Kingdom so we don't actually know what Scotland

:03:11. > :03:15.voted for. John, what are we waiting for? We do know what Scotland voted

:03:16. > :03:19.for, it voted to stay within the United Kingdom. What has got to be

:03:20. > :03:23.discussed is the rules and the membership of the United Kingdom

:03:24. > :03:28.itself now that we have said we want to be in it. We will have to meet

:03:29. > :03:32.the pledges made and the demands for further power for the Scottish

:03:33. > :03:36.Parliament, because it makes it more responsible as well as more

:03:37. > :03:40.accountable. It has to address the needs of the other nations of the

:03:41. > :03:44.United Kingdom including England, and that is now on the table because

:03:45. > :03:49.we have decided whether Scotland wants to be in the club or not. The

:03:50. > :03:54.will of the Scottish people is clear, we want to be in it but also

:03:55. > :04:00.we want greater power over taxation, re-sources, welfare and rowing

:04:01. > :04:04.powers. The English want to address, as Nick Robinson said, over the

:04:05. > :04:09.question of, it is unfair if the other free nations can decide

:04:10. > :04:13.exclusively, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish affairs that the

:04:14. > :04:20.English cannot decide on birds. It is a natural event that devolution

:04:21. > :04:26.is a modernised state for the 21st-century. Just looking at the

:04:27. > :04:31.cross-party attempt at a consensus, how is the Prime Minister going to

:04:32. > :04:35.get around that in this statement? The Unionist parties have been

:04:36. > :04:40.talking. They have not agreed a package but they have agreed

:04:41. > :04:45.timetable. They have identified certain areas of overlap. The Tories

:04:46. > :04:50.are more radical and giving income tax entirely to the Scottish

:04:51. > :04:55.parliament, it is labour resisting that. On welfare, the Tories go

:04:56. > :04:59.further than Labour. But I think we will see some form of committee, and

:05:00. > :05:04.the questions will be answered later in the day by Alex Salmond as to

:05:05. > :05:11.whether the SNP will join that committee to draw up the proposals,

:05:12. > :05:15.or sit to one side and tell what the offer is and then we will give you

:05:16. > :05:20.our verdict on that offer and we may reject it as not good enough. How

:05:21. > :05:25.hard is it going to be to set up something credible? The fact is, we

:05:26. > :05:31.don't start with three blank sheets. We start with the three main parties

:05:32. > :05:37.having already discussed, not only the results of the Calman commission

:05:38. > :05:44.which enhances devolution already, but further powers. They agree on

:05:45. > :05:52.income tax, welfare and other taxation and rowing. As regards the

:05:53. > :05:59.detail, they disagree. -- borrowing. The Conservatives are saying 40% of

:06:00. > :06:06.taxation should be devolved but they should reach a compromise in this. I

:06:07. > :06:10.have Alex Salmond and the SNP Administration will join those

:06:11. > :06:14.talks. Now we have got the big question out of a way, the Scottish

:06:15. > :06:19.people want to be in the United Kingdom. I am just doing my warm up

:06:20. > :06:20.act for the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister gives his response to

:06:21. > :06:29.the referendum. Good morning. The people of Scotland

:06:30. > :06:36.have spoken and it is a clear results. They have kept our country

:06:37. > :06:39.of four nations together. Like millions of other people, I am

:06:40. > :06:43.delighted. As I said during the campaign, it would have opened my

:06:44. > :06:50.heart to see our United Kingdom come to an end. I know that sentiment was

:06:51. > :06:54.shared by people, not just across our country, but also around the

:06:55. > :06:57.world because of what we have achieved together in the past and

:06:58. > :07:03.what we can do together in the future. Now it is time for our

:07:04. > :07:10.United Kingdom to come together and to move forward. A vital part of

:07:11. > :07:14.that will be a balanced settlements, fair to people in Scotland and

:07:15. > :07:19.importantly, to everyone in England, Wales and Northern Ireland as well.

:07:20. > :07:26.Let's remember first why we have this debate and why it was right to

:07:27. > :07:31.do so. The Scottish National Party was elected in Scotland in 2011 and

:07:32. > :07:35.promised a referendum on independence. We could have tried to

:07:36. > :07:41.block that, we could have tried to put it off. But just as with other

:07:42. > :07:48.big issues, it is right to take and not to duck the big decision. I am a

:07:49. > :07:52.passionate believer in our United Kingdom and I wanted more than

:07:53. > :07:58.anything for our United Kingdom to stay together. But I am also a

:07:59. > :08:01.Democrat and it was right and we respected the SNP's majority in

:08:02. > :08:07.Holyrood and gave the Scottish people their right to have their

:08:08. > :08:12.say. Let's also remember why it was right to ask the definitive

:08:13. > :08:17.question, yes or no. Because now the debate has been settled for a

:08:18. > :08:24.generation, or as Alec Salmond has said, perhaps for a lifetime. So

:08:25. > :08:28.there can be no disputes, no reruns. We have heard the settled will of

:08:29. > :08:34.the Scottish people. Scotland voted for a stronger Scottish Parliament

:08:35. > :08:37.back by the strength and security of the United Kingdom. I want to

:08:38. > :08:41.congratulate the No campaign for that, for showing people are nations

:08:42. > :08:48.really are Better Together. I also want to pay tribute to Yes Scotland

:08:49. > :08:52.for a well fought campaign. To say to all of those who did vote for

:08:53. > :08:58.independence, we hear you. We now have a chance, a great opportunity

:08:59. > :09:04.to change the way the British people are governed and change it for the

:09:05. > :09:08.better. Political leaders on all sides of the debate now bear a heavy

:09:09. > :09:13.responsibility to come together and work constructively. To advance the

:09:14. > :09:18.interests of people in Scotland as well as those in England, Wales and

:09:19. > :09:23.Northern Ireland, for each and every citizen of our United Kingdom. To

:09:24. > :09:29.those in Scotland, sceptical of the constitutional promises that were

:09:30. > :09:32.made, let me say this: We have delivered on devolution under this

:09:33. > :09:37.government and we will do so again in the next Parliament. The three

:09:38. > :09:40.prounion parties have made clear commitments on further powers for

:09:41. > :09:47.the Scottish parliament. We will ensure those commitments are

:09:48. > :09:53.honoured in full. And I can announce today that Lord Smith of Kelvin, who

:09:54. > :09:57.so successfully led Glasgow's, while James has agreed to oversee the

:09:58. > :10:01.process to take forward these devolution commitments with powers

:10:02. > :10:07.over tax, spending and welfare, all agreed by November and draft

:10:08. > :10:11.legislation published by January. Just as the people of Scotland will

:10:12. > :10:14.have more power over their affairs, it follows the people of England,

:10:15. > :10:21.Wales and Northern Ireland must have a bigger say over theirs. The rights

:10:22. > :10:25.of these voters need to be respected, preserved and enhanced.

:10:26. > :10:30.It is absolutely right a new and fair settlement for Scotland should

:10:31. > :10:35.be accompanied by Nu and fair settlement that applies to all parts

:10:36. > :10:39.of our United Kingdom. In Wales there are proposals to give the

:10:40. > :10:44.Welsh government and assembly more powers. I want Wales to be heart of

:10:45. > :10:50.the debate on how to make our United Kingdom work for all of the nations.

:10:51. > :10:54.In Northern Ireland, we must work to make sure the devolved institutions

:10:55. > :10:57.function effectively. I have long believed a crucial part missing from

:10:58. > :11:03.this national discussion is England. We have heard the voice of Scotland,

:11:04. > :11:09.now the millions of voices of England must also be heard. The

:11:10. > :11:13.question of English votes for English laws, the so-called West

:11:14. > :11:21.Lothian question, requires a decisive cancer. So just as Scotland

:11:22. > :11:25.will vote separately on the Scottish Parliament on their issues of tax,

:11:26. > :11:29.spending and welfare, so to England as well as Wales and Northern

:11:30. > :11:33.Ireland should be able to vote on these issues and all this must take

:11:34. > :11:38.place in tandem with, and that the same pace as, the settlement for

:11:39. > :11:44.Scotland. I hope this is going to take place on a cross-party basis. I

:11:45. > :11:47.have asked William Hague to draw up these plans and we will set up a

:11:48. > :11:52.Cabinet committee right away and proposals will be ready to the same

:11:53. > :11:57.timetable. I have the Labour Party and other parties will contribute.

:11:58. > :12:02.It is important we have wider, civic engagement on how to improve

:12:03. > :12:05.governance throughout the United Kingdom, including how to empower

:12:06. > :12:11.our great cities and we will say more about this in the coming days.

:12:12. > :12:16.This referendum has been hard-fought. It has stirred strong

:12:17. > :12:20.passions. It has electrified a la ticks in Scotland and caught the

:12:21. > :12:28.imagination of people across the whole of our United Kingdom. --

:12:29. > :12:32.politics. It has strengthened the vitality of our ancient democracy.

:12:33. > :12:37.Record numbers registered to vote and record numbers is their vote. We

:12:38. > :12:41.should be proud of that. It has reminded us how fortunate we are how

:12:42. > :12:47.we can settle these vital issues at the ballot box peacefully and

:12:48. > :12:50.calmly. Now we must look forward and turn this into the moment when

:12:51. > :12:55.everyone, which ever way they voted, comes together to build a

:12:56. > :12:57.better, brighter future for our entire United Kingdom. Thank you

:12:58. > :13:11.very much and good morning. We have the Prime Minister's

:13:12. > :13:17.response to the vote overnight in Scotland. David Cameron setting out

:13:18. > :13:22.his proposed timetable and his appointment of Lord Smith of

:13:23. > :13:28.Kelvin, chairman of the successful organising committee of the 20 14th

:13:29. > :13:31.Commonwealth games, to oversee this process and bring these proposals,

:13:32. > :13:35.whatever they are in their final form together. Nick Robinson, what

:13:36. > :13:39.had you make of that? What was striking was the promise to

:13:40. > :13:43.deliver, the promises in the campaign that there is an individual

:13:44. > :13:49.now to see it through and stick to the timetable. What is new is what

:13:50. > :13:54.he's saying about England. Specifically a promise to bring

:13:55. > :13:58.English votes for English laws, a Tory manifesto promise he did not

:13:59. > :14:02.deliver on and there was no coalition agreement to. It means

:14:03. > :14:06.that within Westminster, when there are matters being discussed which

:14:07. > :14:11.the Welsh assembly has responsibility for, or the Scottish

:14:12. > :14:14.Parliament or the Northern Ireland assembly, those MPs for those

:14:15. > :14:19.countries should not be allowed to vote in Westminster. Lots of people

:14:20. > :14:23.watching that programme, particularly if they are English,

:14:24. > :14:27.will say it is common sense. Why isn't it so easy? Why isn't it the

:14:28. > :14:33.case they have not done it up until now? Simple. If you have a Labour

:14:34. > :14:39.Party in government in Westminster, magically overnight they would have

:14:40. > :14:45.a majority one day and no majority the next on certain issues. You

:14:46. > :14:47.would have 2 classes of MPs and uncertainty as to whether the

:14:48. > :14:51.government could get its own business through. Let alone raising

:14:52. > :14:58.questions whether a, Welshman or someone from Northern Ireland can

:14:59. > :15:03.serve in the key offices of state in Whitehall. Proposals have been

:15:04. > :15:10.brought up in the past in order to come up with solutions which involve

:15:11. > :15:13.complex voting arrangements in the House of Commons, don't involve new

:15:14. > :15:17.laws, to try to get round that. My understanding is Nick Clegg leaves

:15:18. > :15:23.there is a working basis for an agreement. Labour are suspicious

:15:24. > :15:28.this is a trap to which the Tories want to drop them. I do want to ask

:15:29. > :15:37.Sarah and my guest for their responses to that. Andrew Marr, it

:15:38. > :15:39.has been a very long night. Just wondering what your concluding

:15:40. > :15:50.thoughts are actor the verdict and after what we have heard from Alec

:15:51. > :15:54.Salmond and David Cameron? What started as a vote on whether

:15:55. > :15:57.Scotland would leave the UK has ended with an extraordinary

:15:58. > :16:02.constitutional revolution announced outside Downing Street by the Prime

:16:03. > :16:05.Minister. It either means the complicated arrangements that Nick

:16:06. > :16:08.suggests or an English Parliament, which throws down the gauntlet to

:16:09. > :16:12.the Labour Party that we will see very big change coming and it had

:16:13. > :16:17.better come quickly. We had always been told that if you laid all the

:16:18. > :16:21.economists in the world end to end, they would still not reached a

:16:22. > :16:24.conclusion. This same can be said of parliamentary inquiries and

:16:25. > :16:29.commissions but the same cannot be said this time because it is not

:16:30. > :16:32.taking place in the sealed room with the smug consensus of Westminster

:16:33. > :16:37.parties getting around and arguing with each other, as before. It is

:16:38. > :16:41.taking place in a huge glass house watched by Scottish voters and

:16:42. > :16:46.millions around the UK. What the Scottish shop has done is produce a

:16:47. > :16:50.constitutional revolution on a tight timetable, possibly the most

:16:51. > :16:58.exciting story in mine or Nick's lifetime. That was Andrew Marr at

:16:59. > :17:03.the national counting centre. He has been with us all night. William

:17:04. > :17:05.Hague, the former Foreign Secretary, is with Andrew Neil outside

:17:06. > :17:11.Westminster. Let's join them. Thank you. I am

:17:12. > :17:14.joined by William Hague. When the Prime Minister outsourced

:17:15. > :17:18.constitutional reform to Gordon Brown during the campaign, was the

:17:19. > :17:22.cabinet consulted? This is something we have all discussed in the

:17:23. > :17:31.Government. Was the Cabinet consulted? The Cabinet has discussed

:17:32. > :17:36.Scotland over many months. Was the Cabinet consulted? Was it the Prime

:17:37. > :17:39.Minister's intention to agree substantially more devolution? That

:17:40. > :17:43.is already the policy of all three main parties including the two in

:17:44. > :17:48.the coalition. We have discussed this in the Cabinet over a long

:17:49. > :17:53.time, this issue. We are all committed to more devolution in

:17:54. > :17:59.Scotland. Did you know? Of course. You knew he would make the home-rule

:18:00. > :18:04.offer? Yes. Saying in that pejorative way that it was

:18:05. > :18:12.outsourced to Gordon Brown, well, he set out what all the three parties

:18:13. > :18:16.support, the timetable. The Prime Minister has set out who will chair

:18:17. > :18:20.that process and it will take place over the coming weeks. There is a

:18:21. > :18:23.growing demand on your own backbenchers for more English

:18:24. > :18:28.devolution. The Prime Minister mentioned the answer to the West

:18:29. > :18:34.Lothian question, English votes for English laws. Is that the extent of

:18:35. > :18:38.English devolution? That is a fundamental issue now. With further

:18:39. > :18:41.devolution to Scotland it becomes inconceivable to continue to allow

:18:42. > :18:45.Scottish members to vote on everything that is happening in

:18:46. > :18:49.England, when English members cannot vote on so much of what is happening

:18:50. > :18:53.in Scotland. That is the heart of the issue. But we have in this case

:18:54. > :18:58.been devolving more power to cities, for instance. There are many

:18:59. > :19:02.more ideas about how we can do more of that. But look, how Westminster

:19:03. > :19:07.operates is now at the heart of the issue. A lot of your backbenchers

:19:08. > :19:11.want this Parliament to meet a couple of days a week as an English

:19:12. > :19:17.Parliament and they are even talking about an English executive. It's any

:19:18. > :19:22.of that on the cards? I don't think people in this country will want

:19:23. > :19:27.that and I don't think our work will lead to a new layer of Government.

:19:28. > :19:30.We are going to consult widely on this process so I am not going to

:19:31. > :19:35.exclude everything at the beginning but I am giving a clear steer on

:19:36. > :19:40.where this will head. The heart of the issue is the decision about

:19:41. > :19:44.England, Wales and Northern Ireland being made by elected

:19:45. > :19:49.representatives who represent those places and that is what we have to

:19:50. > :19:52.deal with. The Prime Minister has said he wants to go ahead and the

:19:53. > :19:54.consensus on this is that most people in the Labour Party are

:19:55. > :20:00.against this, against English votes for English laws. We have to discuss

:20:01. > :20:03.this with all the other parties. If there is no consensus then it is

:20:04. > :20:07.something that at the general election the parties will have to

:20:08. > :20:13.stake out their positions on. I think there is a strong view among

:20:14. > :20:15.the people of England as well as in the Conservative Party and the

:20:16. > :20:19.Liberal Democrat Members of Parliament as well. The Prime

:20:20. > :20:23.Minister said he wanted Scottish devolution to go in lockstep with

:20:24. > :20:26.more English devolution. If you can't get consensus on the West

:20:27. > :20:33.Lothian question, does that hold up Scottish devolution? The enactment

:20:34. > :20:36.of what we are all talking about on Scottish devolution is after the

:20:37. > :20:40.general election. Draft legislation in January and a bill to be

:20:41. > :20:43.introduced for whoever wins the general election in May. That'll be

:20:44. > :20:48.enacted at the beginning of the next Parliament. I believe the country

:20:49. > :20:52.can reach a decision. I hope for consensus among parties but if not

:20:53. > :20:57.it will come out in the general election, how we tackle these other

:20:58. > :21:01.issues affecting England and Wales. But issues of devolution have been

:21:02. > :21:08.debated back and forwards and we are all familiar with that. The issue of

:21:09. > :21:11.English devolution is relatively new and there has been no national

:21:12. > :21:15.debate about it. Can you tie up in this devolution and stick to the

:21:16. > :21:19.Scottish timetable? That is what we are trying to do and it is my job to

:21:20. > :21:25.do it but don't write off how much work there has been on this already.

:21:26. > :21:28.I agree there has not been the same media and public attention on this

:21:29. > :21:38.issue as on Scottish devolution but the Mackay commission has reported

:21:39. > :21:41.on this and given a decisive say. It was not decisive because they said

:21:42. > :21:44.the vote had to be by everybody voting in the UK Parliament and you

:21:45. > :21:49.will know, you're Chief Whip will have told you, that will not satisfy

:21:50. > :21:52.the backbenchers. It may not satisfy me or the Prime Minister. We may

:21:53. > :21:57.want to go further and have a clearer and more fundamental

:21:58. > :22:00.solution to what was put forward in the Mackay commission. But your

:22:01. > :22:04.point was that things have not been discussed and actually they have

:22:05. > :22:08.been discussed for years. I think now the time has come to focus

:22:09. > :22:11.attention on these issues and make sure that all parts of the United

:22:12. > :22:17.Kingdom are fairly represented and people are more closely connected to

:22:18. > :22:19.the decisions made on their behalf. Part of the promised the Prime

:22:20. > :22:26.Minister made in the election campaign was that despite extra

:22:27. > :22:30.taxation powers, the Barnett Formula, which is generous to

:22:31. > :22:35.Scotland, would remain in place. Is that Britain in stone? We are

:22:36. > :22:39.committed to the Barnett Formula, or the leaders are. But it has to be

:22:40. > :22:43.added that Scotland requires more tax-raising powers and raises more

:22:44. > :22:46.of its revenue, the Barnett Formula becomes less relevant over time.

:22:47. > :22:50.Scotland would retain the same amount of money spend. The Barnett

:22:51. > :22:56.Formula becomes a less important component. So if Scotland raises

:22:57. > :23:02.income tax, the Barnett Formula gets cut? That is how it has been

:23:03. > :23:06.proposed so far. But remember, there will now be a process. Why would the

:23:07. > :23:10.Scottish Parliament to do that? They are getting the money coming up from

:23:11. > :23:15.London and the alternative is to raise taxes. There will be a process

:23:16. > :23:18.to put these proposals together over the coming weeks. You have some

:23:19. > :23:23.fundamental questions to answer in all of this and you are not going to

:23:24. > :23:26.do it by May of next year. I think many of us have thought about these

:23:27. > :23:31.things for a long time and there have been many reports and debates

:23:32. > :23:35.about this already, and yes it is a tight timetable but it is an

:23:36. > :23:38.absolutely necessary timetable because alongside devolution for

:23:39. > :23:41.Scotland now go these very important issues about the governing of the

:23:42. > :23:44.rest of the United Kingdom. William Hague, thank you for being with us

:23:45. > :23:49.this morning. Back to Glasgow. Andrew Neil with

:23:50. > :23:53.the lead of the house, William Hague. More from our guests in a

:23:54. > :23:57.moment. I must go to Carol because lots of you will be wondering what

:23:58. > :24:05.the weather is doing. She is at Holyrood. This morning in Edinburgh

:24:06. > :24:09.it is a dreich start to the day and if we look at the view outside the

:24:10. > :24:16.Scottish Parliament, you can see exactly what I mean. Cloudy, murky,

:24:17. > :24:18.damp, drizzle. It is not just in Edinburgh that we are looking at

:24:19. > :24:23.that forecast because eastern areas are seeing that. We have scattered

:24:24. > :24:27.showers in the forecast as well and we have had them through the course

:24:28. > :24:31.of the night. Some of them have been heavy and sundry across parts of

:24:32. > :24:37.England and Wales and we will hang onto them through the day. -- heavy

:24:38. > :24:41.and thundery. In between there will be sunshine. Scotland sees a lot of

:24:42. > :24:46.cloud coming in from the North Sea and dank conditions. The brightest

:24:47. > :24:51.skies will be in the West and along the Moray Firth. We have low cloud

:24:52. > :24:55.coming in to the North East of England. In East Anglia, the

:24:56. > :24:58.Midlands, further South, this is where we are prone to showers and

:24:59. > :25:03.some of them will be intense and thundery that not everybody will

:25:04. > :25:08.catch them. In the South West of England, a similar story. Again,

:25:09. > :25:10.thundery showers and a lot of us missing them but further thundery

:25:11. > :25:14.showers developing through the course of the day as well. For

:25:15. > :25:20.Wales, bright spells and showers, some of which will be heavy. And

:25:21. > :25:24.into Northern Ireland, a cloudy and murky start to the day. We are not

:25:25. > :25:30.immune to showers all day but it should tend to brighten up. Talking

:25:31. > :25:34.of through the day, on the whole it will be fairly cloudy, particularly

:25:35. > :25:39.in eastern and central areas. West is best in terms of sunshine but we

:25:40. > :25:43.will hang on to thundery showers with more developing in the South

:25:44. > :25:48.through the afternoon. Not as warm as yesterday but top temperatures of

:25:49. > :25:52.24. As we go through the evening and overnight, we will still have

:25:53. > :25:59.thundery showers and quite a lot of cloud across England and Wales,

:26:00. > :26:03.meaning once again it will be muggy at night. Clearer skies in Scotland

:26:04. > :26:07.and Northern Ireland, so cooler here, especially in rural areas with

:26:08. > :26:14.temperatures down to single figures. It means tomorrow we don't on a

:26:15. > :26:18.bright note with sunshine, especially in the East. -- we wake

:26:19. > :26:22.up on a bright note. Thundery showers in the South but an

:26:23. > :26:26.improvement for the North as we go through the day with sunshine

:26:27. > :26:30.developing. On Sunday, another cool started the day with some sunshine

:26:31. > :26:35.and mostly dry to start but some showers through the day. Further

:26:36. > :26:41.cloud romping in from the North Sea into eastern areas. This weekend,

:26:42. > :26:51.the showers will ease, the cloud will in and break up and there will

:26:52. > :26:57.be sunshine around. Thank you. I have a very impatient John Reid next

:26:58. > :27:01.to me! And Alex Neil is with us from the SNP. Thank you for coming in.

:27:02. > :27:04.Let's talk about what the Prime Minister had to say and this

:27:05. > :27:09.mechanism because as Nick and Sarah have been whispering to me, there

:27:10. > :27:13.are lots of unanswered questions. First of all, are we clearer about

:27:14. > :27:16.the kind of mechanism that is being proposed to deliver change within

:27:17. > :27:22.what would be a record space of time? Yes, I think we are. The Prime

:27:23. > :27:26.Minister said three things. First of all the decision has been taken by

:27:27. > :27:31.the Scottish people that we want to be part of the United Kingdom, so

:27:32. > :27:36.for the foreseeable future, a generation as Alex said. So let's

:27:37. > :27:40.leave that aside. Secondly there is a demand which has been met by a

:27:41. > :27:43.promise for further enhanced powers for the Scottish Parliament and a

:27:44. > :27:52.timetable set out for that. That work on that. And thirdly he said,

:27:53. > :27:56.we can't do that without the need for a reform club in the other

:27:57. > :28:03.nations including the English. I happen to think that is perfectly

:28:04. > :28:06.logical and predictable. I think the timetable can be done but the devil

:28:07. > :28:11.is in the detail. Yes, it is very difficult to work these things out.

:28:12. > :28:16.If you are a pessimist, you would say it is very difficult. If you are

:28:17. > :28:20.an optimist, you say it can be done. I am a pessimist of the intellect so

:28:21. > :28:25.I admit the problems but I am an optimist of the will. I think that

:28:26. > :28:29.where there is a will... And I hope the SNP will join in the discussions

:28:30. > :28:35.about the enhanced powers rather than sitting on the side. How ready

:28:36. > :28:39.will be SNP after this defeat and the disappointment? How quickly can

:28:40. > :28:43.you put that behind you to take part in the process? The First Minister

:28:44. > :28:46.has confirmed in a conversation with the Prime Minister that the Scottish

:28:47. > :28:50.Government will participate in the talks because we are all about

:28:51. > :28:53.enhancing the powers of the Scottish Parliament. The two key challenges

:28:54. > :28:57.are rising from the Prime Minister's statement, and they are

:28:58. > :29:02.firstly to get an agreement. There is a big difference between what the

:29:03. > :29:09.Labour, Tories and Liberal Democrats are currently proposing. It will be

:29:10. > :29:13.difficult in this timescale to get consensus on the way forward. The

:29:14. > :29:16.second issue that I think the Prime Minister will face in terms of the

:29:17. > :29:19.West Lothian question, people have been looking at this for 40 years

:29:20. > :29:26.and nobody but nobody has come up with a solution. Where are we going

:29:27. > :29:29.to get a solution in three months time? Because you have a mechanism,

:29:30. > :29:33.this commission chaired by Lord Smith, which will have a look at

:29:34. > :29:36.more powers for the Scottish Parliament. There are different

:29:37. > :29:41.plans for different parties but substantial overlap and they have

:29:42. > :29:45.committed to having it ready. Ambitious but doable. He then said

:29:46. > :29:51.he will and to the West Lothian question and it must be decisively

:29:52. > :29:54.answered? Hinting that it will be on the same timetable but we don't

:29:55. > :29:58.know. We don't know how multiparty talks will take place on that. There

:29:59. > :30:04.is much less agreement on how to answer the West Lothian question

:30:05. > :30:07.among the main parties. In 1978 this was asked for the first time in

:30:08. > :30:12.Parliament and it has been asked ever since. Nobody has come up with

:30:13. > :30:18.an answer that everybody can agree to. There was a phrase that William

:30:19. > :30:20.Hague used that was interesting. In that interview with Andrew Neil,

:30:21. > :30:25.having discussed the so-called English votes for English laws, he

:30:26. > :30:29.then said that we may want a clearer and more fundamental solution. I

:30:30. > :30:34.wonder what that means. They're all sorts of mechanisms that are being

:30:35. > :30:38.looked at in the rules the House of Commons, where a law that affect

:30:39. > :30:42.England only would to start with just be discussed by English MPs,

:30:43. > :30:47.but when it finally became law, all MPs would get a vote. That is one of

:30:48. > :30:51.the ideas. Why isn't it automatically done? Because the

:30:52. > :30:54.Government, particularly if there were a Labour Government dependent

:30:55. > :30:58.on Scottish votes, might find it had a majority when everybody was

:30:59. > :31:02.involved but not when just England was involved. But what does he mean

:31:03. > :31:06.by a more fundamental decision? We don't know. It either means an

:31:07. > :31:10.English Parliament, which we are told the Prime Minister has

:31:11. > :31:14.rejected. He doesn't think that is the right idea. Or it may mean some

:31:15. > :31:27.arrangement where in Westminster MPs sit for two days as a UK Parliament

:31:28. > :31:30.and two as an English Parliament. I doubt he means that. Or that means

:31:31. > :31:32.much more fundamental devolution of power to regions and cities. The

:31:33. > :31:35.current fashion in all three of the big UK parties is to give more

:31:36. > :31:38.powers not just to the centre of cities but great cities, so in the

:31:39. > :31:42.way that Boris Johnson and before him Ken Livingstone have had powers

:31:43. > :31:48.in London. There is an argument that the 27 authorities around

:31:49. > :31:51.Manchester, I think that is right, should share strategic decisions and

:31:52. > :31:57.it may be that the parties can gravitate towards some solutions

:31:58. > :32:01.involving the big cities, the Manchesters, Newcastles Bristols,

:32:02. > :32:05.could have a directly elected Mayor to take many of the fundamental

:32:06. > :32:08.decisions that are currently taken at the Department for Transport, the

:32:09. > :32:23.Home Office and other larger departments.

:32:24. > :32:25.If you are just joining us, we are discussing the

:32:26. > :32:31.If you are just joining us, we are discussing the results of the

:32:32. > :32:39.referendum. The front page of the Scotsman. And the times. We stayed

:32:40. > :32:45.together, reflect in the jubilation of a better to get the team. If we

:32:46. > :32:51.look at the Herald. Scotland says no, but changes UK for good. No to

:32:52. > :32:54.independence but there is no question this verdict is the

:32:55. > :36:16.catalyst for major change. We question this verdict is the

:36:17. > :36:17.independence reference -- referendum across the morning.

:36:18. > :36:40.I will be back later will. We are discussing the response, the

:36:41. > :36:46.Prime Minister's response, Alec Salmond's response to the verdict of

:36:47. > :36:55.the people of Scotland. If you are just joining the programme, 55% to

:36:56. > :36:59.45% margin of people who rejected the question should Scotland be an

:37:00. > :37:04.independent country. David Cameron has already outlined his response.

:37:05. > :37:07.But quite a few questions around the mechanism he has announced for

:37:08. > :37:13.addressing the needs of England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Someone

:37:14. > :37:18.with a keen eye on the English solution, if I can put it that way

:37:19. > :37:23.is Nigel Farage, the leader of UKIP and he is with Andrew Neil.

:37:24. > :37:27.Nigel Farage, the Prime Minister said there would be more devolution

:37:28. > :37:32.for Scotland and that will go in tandem with more devolution for

:37:33. > :37:36.England, Wales and Northern Ireland. What would you want four more

:37:37. > :37:41.devolution for England? We can ask all 59 Scottish MPs, would you

:37:42. > :37:47.please promise from today you will not debate vote in the House of

:37:48. > :37:51.Commons on English devolved issues. Longer term, this question of

:37:52. > :37:55.finding a new, constitutional settlement or the United Kingdom is

:37:56. > :38:03.a big issue. He had said he will put William Hague interim charge -- in

:38:04. > :38:07.charge of the committee. It is too important for that. We need a

:38:08. > :38:15.constitutional convention to find out how a fair, federal United

:38:16. > :38:19.Kingdom would work. If you had a constitutional settlement it would

:38:20. > :38:24.interfere with the timetable the three Westminster party leaders have

:38:25. > :38:32.given the devolution. It is a question of money as well. What

:38:33. > :38:36.upset me, having led a lacklustre campaign, we saw the three party

:38:37. > :38:40.leaders making financial promises and promising to maintain the

:38:41. > :38:46.Barnett formula. The English taxpayer has been very patient and

:38:47. > :38:53.quiet. We spent as a nation 1600 pounds more on every Scot than we do

:38:54. > :38:56.on every English person. I think the Barnett formula should be debated

:38:57. > :39:00.openly in the House of Commons. Let's get the country involved in

:39:01. > :39:07.this. I don't think the taxpayer should be bound by a last-minute

:39:08. > :39:12.promise by the Prime Minister. Do you think the Barnett formula should

:39:13. > :39:18.be scrapped? Yes, and so does Joel Barnett, the man who came up with it

:39:19. > :39:22.in 1979. I think England has had a rotten financial deal out of this.

:39:23. > :39:29.There are revenues coming here and that balances the money back those

:39:30. > :39:35.back out with the Barnett formula. It depends on the price of oil. But

:39:36. > :39:41.if we had an open debate about this, perhaps people will find out more.

:39:42. > :39:46.Right now the English feel put upon, they are confused and tired of

:39:47. > :39:55.paying too many taxes and tired of Scottish MPs voting on English only

:39:56. > :40:00.issues. We have heard a lot from Scotland but the tale cannot go on

:40:01. > :40:04.wagging the dog any longer. England needs a proper voice. If we have an

:40:05. > :40:07.English parliament and an English First Minister, where does that

:40:08. > :40:12.leave the authority of the English Prime Minister? This is not easy and

:40:13. > :40:18.that is why it needs a constitutional convention. I

:40:19. > :40:23.understand you want to answer the West Lothian question, but what else

:40:24. > :40:30.for England? A fair financial settlement and that means revisiting

:40:31. > :40:33.the Barnett formula. And federal United Kingdom that recognises four

:40:34. > :40:39.corners affectively, have their own version of home rule. Then the Scots

:40:40. > :40:43.would have to wait for devolution they were promised in this

:40:44. > :40:50.referendum? Nobody knows what the timetable will be yet. But what did

:40:51. > :40:54.it mean? It means we will pay the same money to Scotland but we will

:40:55. > :40:59.give you more powers. It was very vague. It is too important to be

:41:00. > :41:04.sorted out in the next few weeks. There are some Tory MPs talking

:41:05. > :41:08.about the need for an English parliament and sit with England only

:41:09. > :41:11.matters, give more power to the Welsh, more power to Northern

:41:12. > :41:18.Ireland. Would you go ahead with that? Absolutely, that was UKIP

:41:19. > :41:26.policy. That has not changed. We must have English only MPs voting on

:41:27. > :41:30.English issues. That can start today with the 59 Scottish MPs. Are you

:41:31. > :41:36.thinking this could be the biggest source of votes for you and Europe?

:41:37. > :41:43.I think our leaders are out of touch whether it is on Europe, immigration

:41:44. > :41:49.and they are all factors why UKIP is doing well. Will you be speaking to

:41:50. > :41:55.some Tory MPs who have been slithering and following the road of

:41:56. > :42:04.Mr Carswell? If Douglas Carswell winds well on the 9th of October,

:42:05. > :42:10.there will be other back bench MPs thinking they will do better with a

:42:11. > :42:16.UKIP ticket. One of the reasons why Westminster has become so remote is

:42:17. > :42:20.it is the modern version of a closed shop. Three parties who keep it all

:42:21. > :42:25.to themselves and dumping anybody else has an important point to give

:42:26. > :42:29.and that is why getting Douglas Carswell into the House of Commons

:42:30. > :42:37.is very important. A lot of people have voted for the union having

:42:38. > :42:43.absorbed this vow from the three Westminster party leaders, Labour,

:42:44. > :42:47.Conservative and Lib Dem, that there would be substantial and speedy

:42:48. > :42:51.devolution to Scotland. Gordon Brown even gave a timetable, which David

:42:52. > :42:56.Cameron supports. They will feel treated if they get sidetracked into

:42:57. > :43:02.a convention about English devolution? It may take a bit

:43:03. > :43:06.longer, but whilst the promise is fine, what I am not prepared to

:43:07. > :43:11.stand by our financial promises made on my behalf right David Cameron,

:43:12. > :43:18.Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband, without consulting me. You have 2

:43:19. > :43:23.by-elections coming up, one in the South and want in the north. I

:43:24. > :43:27.assume you hope to do well in both. Does this now become an issue, the

:43:28. > :43:34.matter of English devolution and English finances? Will this be an

:43:35. > :43:39.issue for you in the by-elections? It will be an issue in both of the

:43:40. > :43:42.by-elections. It is the question the English feel they have not had a

:43:43. > :43:48.fair deal and a proper voice, I think is going up the agenda. Is

:43:49. > :43:53.this a good day for you? It is a good day for the union because we

:43:54. > :43:59.have stayed together. RU happy about that? I am very happy about that,

:44:00. > :44:04.despite a pitiful campaign that was run until the last couple of weeks.

:44:05. > :44:09.This issue that has been buried under the carpet, which has been not

:44:10. > :44:17.respectable to talk about, has now been done. Now back to the studio.

:44:18. > :44:25.We are listening here very carefully. Douglas Alexander is

:44:26. > :44:34.here. Where do we start? There was a suggestion first of all, that the

:44:35. > :44:41.pledge, isn't that watertight in Nigel Farage's eyes, it could be

:44:42. > :44:45.adjusted, stretched or whatever? We have just defeated one independence

:44:46. > :44:51.party in Scotland and it reinforces the need for people to continue to

:44:52. > :44:57.defeat UKIP south of the border. He is not driving the agenda, the three

:44:58. > :45:01.party leaders have agreed a tight but deliverable timetable which will

:45:02. > :45:08.allow a Bill to be produced by January. Nothing I heard from Nigel

:45:09. > :45:14.dissuaded me on the ability to deliver on the timetable. Is that

:45:15. > :45:19.timetable not affect did where the Prime Minister talks about setting

:45:20. > :45:22.up a Cabinet committee on English issues and hope to have proposals

:45:23. > :45:30.ready to the timetable. Is that ambition going to wreck the Scottish

:45:31. > :45:33.part of it, the delivery of more powers? Danny Alexander and the

:45:34. > :45:38.Prime Minister have been clear, they will deliver on the timetable of the

:45:39. > :45:44.Scotland Bill by 2015. But the reason we are able to set out that

:45:45. > :45:51.table, a command paper is being produced within a month, is because

:45:52. > :45:56.the three main parties have to put together fairly complimentary, but

:45:57. > :45:59.substantial proposals. Those were published in the spring in Scotland

:46:00. > :46:03.and we have also been able to look to the past history of people

:46:04. > :46:13.working cooperatively to the type but deliverable timetable. The idea

:46:14. > :46:20.William Hague will behead of a committee will be how we are

:46:21. > :46:23.governed and whose interest we are governed, is inadequate. He does not

:46:24. > :46:27.have the bricks and mortar to stop the process of that Golding. In

:46:28. > :46:34.Scotland, the reason that vow could be given is because they can work on

:46:35. > :46:40.specific proposals. The reason it is so crucial in this context, as Alec

:46:41. > :46:43.Salmond make clear early on, there is an expectation in Scotland

:46:44. > :46:48.following this very important democratic recess. There is an

:46:49. > :46:58.expectation following this verdict this timetable is stuck to and it

:46:59. > :47:04.delivers on As Harold Wilson used to say, this is not just a promise, it

:47:05. > :47:07.is a pledge. I think the Scottish people would be extremely unhappy if

:47:08. > :47:11.they did not deliver by March next year, because that is the promise

:47:12. > :47:15.they have given, and they will be expected to deliver that. Lots of

:47:16. > :47:18.people thinking of voting for independence at the last minute will

:47:19. > :47:25.have changed their mind and voted no because of the promise, and it have

:47:26. > :47:29.to be delivered by the three main parties. We have said we will

:47:30. > :47:34.cooperate and go into the talks, because clearly, as I said earlier,

:47:35. > :47:37.the substance of the talks as to be what powers will actually be

:47:38. > :47:43.devolved. The issue for the committee is to try to prevent those

:47:44. > :47:46.English Tory MPs who have said they would not vote for and would not

:47:47. > :47:51.allow through the House of Commons the legislation on Scotland unless

:47:52. > :47:55.there is some movement in terms of the West Lothian question in

:47:56. > :48:00.relation to England. I think that is a fair point from their point of

:48:01. > :48:04.view. If I were representing an English constituency in the House of

:48:05. > :48:08.Commons, I would be wanting that as well. I think it is a perfectly fair

:48:09. > :48:13.point of view but we must have an absolute guarantee that William

:48:14. > :48:25.Hague's subcommittee in no way delays the implementation of the

:48:26. > :48:28.vow. And let's not forget the way this will be conducted. All the

:48:29. > :48:32.parties will be looking forward to the general election. This is not a

:48:33. > :48:35.normal time in the parliamentary calendar. They are getting ready to

:48:36. > :48:38.fight each other for seats in a general election that is coming up

:48:39. > :48:43.quite quickly and only a couple of months after they said they would

:48:44. > :48:47.deliver on the devolution pledges. In 35 years, the parties have not

:48:48. > :48:54.been able to come together to answer the West Lothian question. It seems

:48:55. > :48:57.fanciful to imagine they will do that in the six months leading up to

:48:58. > :49:00.a general election. One quick point. John major has come up with a

:49:01. > :49:08.solution that I think is the closest you will get to a solution. Given

:49:09. > :49:13.DFO mats -- give the Scots devo max and reduce the number of MPs going

:49:14. > :49:19.to Westminster. That will be in the mixture. That does not find favour

:49:20. > :49:22.with me. It is a curious position to argue given the conscious choice

:49:23. > :49:27.that Scottish people made last night to stay in the UK and to respond to

:49:28. > :49:33.that would be to reduce representation in the UK. Let's hold

:49:34. > :49:38.that thought for a second. It is just about 7:50am. If you have just

:49:39. > :49:43.joined us, we are talking about the aftermath and the response to the

:49:44. > :49:46.verdict of the voters of Scotland, who have voted to reject

:49:47. > :49:53.independence in yesterday's referendum. We will pause the debate

:49:54. > :49:58.for a second and join Carol for the weather, who is in Holyrood. Thank

:49:59. > :50:02.you and good morning from Holyrood. It is a cloudy start to the day. If

:50:03. > :50:07.we look at the view outside the Scottish Parliament, you can see

:50:08. > :50:11.exactly what I mean. There is low cloud, murky and damp, with

:50:12. > :50:15.drizzle. That is set to continue for some time yet. It is not just in

:50:16. > :50:19.Scotland that we are looking at this particular view. We have it across

:50:20. > :50:23.eastern England and as well as that we have showers around, scattered

:50:24. > :50:28.showers. We have had heavy ones through the course of the night and

:50:29. > :50:31.some of them have been thundery. We will carry on with that scenario

:50:32. > :50:34.across parts of England and Wales as we go through the course of the day

:50:35. > :50:39.but the showers will be very hit and miss and in between there will be

:50:40. > :50:45.sunshine. Western Scotland faring best today and also the area around

:50:46. > :50:48.the Moray Firth. The rest of Scotland cloudy and damp. We also

:50:49. > :50:56.have sunshine through the course of the morning. Anywhere from East

:50:57. > :51:00.Anglia and into the Midlands heading South is where we will see the heavy

:51:01. > :51:04.and thundery downpours. Not all of us will catch them and in between we

:51:05. > :51:07.are looking at bright spells and sunny intervals. Into the South West

:51:08. > :51:13.as we go through the morning and into the afternoon we are not immune

:51:14. > :51:16.to them as we have seen. For Wales, a mixture of thundery downpours

:51:17. > :51:22.interspersed with brighter and sunnier skies. Moving into Northern

:51:23. > :51:26.Ireland, a murky and cloudy start. The cloud will be thick enough at

:51:27. > :51:30.times for the odd shower but equally it will brighten up. Through the

:51:31. > :51:34.course of the day we hang on to a lot of cloud across many areas. In

:51:35. > :51:37.the South we hang on to thundery showers with more developing along

:51:38. > :51:43.the South coast as we head through the course of the afternoon.

:51:44. > :51:47.Temperatures down on yesterday but a maximum of 24, fairly respectable

:51:48. > :52:02.for this time of year. Into the evening and overnight we still have

:52:03. > :52:14.thundery showers. Especially across England and Wales. We start on a

:52:15. > :52:17.bright note tomorrow. The winds change direction to north-westerly.

:52:18. > :52:21.We start with showers across England and Wales but through the course of

:52:22. > :52:25.the day it will brighten up in the North. Temperatures down a touch on

:52:26. > :52:30.today as well. Heading into Sunday after a chilly and bright start to

:52:31. > :52:37.the day with some sunshine, through the day showers will develop and

:52:38. > :52:42.then cloud comes into eastern areas. In summary, showers fade

:52:43. > :52:49.through the weekend and the cloud breaks up and we will see some

:52:50. > :52:55.sunshine as well. Back to you. A nice, positive note to end on. We

:52:56. > :52:59.will see you later. I wonder if the financial markets have taken on

:53:00. > :53:03.board what has happened. As the pound behaved in any way that we

:53:04. > :53:11.should be noticing? Let's go to the City of London.

:53:12. > :53:25.Simon? Thank you. The action so far overnight has been on the ? gains in

:53:26. > :53:31.its value. -- has been on the pound with gains in its value. We have had

:53:32. > :53:35.two year highs. A couple of weeks ago, the markets did not think it

:53:36. > :53:38.was even a close run thing. This was the pound against the dollar, as

:53:39. > :53:43.opinion polls got closer, the value of the pound fell and now it is on

:53:44. > :53:47.its way back up. The stock market will open shortly, and we can expect

:53:48. > :53:53.gains for RBS and Lloyds. There were questions over where they would be

:53:54. > :53:56.domiciled in the event of a Yes vote. We can talk now to the

:53:57. > :54:01.Director General of the British Chambers of Commerce. The business

:54:02. > :54:06.lobby left this one late. What have you learned from this campaign? Of

:54:07. > :54:10.course we represent businesses in Scotland and Wales and Northern

:54:11. > :54:17.Ireland and England, so we were completely neutral. We know that

:54:18. > :54:21.there will be many businesses that will be pleased with this result.

:54:22. > :54:25.Clearly it was important for Scottish businesses, even more so

:54:26. > :54:30.than in the rest of the UK. Any lasting damage in terms of

:54:31. > :54:34.confidence to invest or have we seen this one off? I think we can go on

:54:35. > :54:37.to great, sustainable growth in the economy if we do the right thing. It

:54:38. > :54:41.is important that Alex Salmond should not imply that this is the

:54:42. > :54:45.end of the matter because that will affect investment particularly in

:54:46. > :54:49.Scotland. There is still some uncertainty about how devolution

:54:50. > :54:54.will work. Also powers to the regions in the UK and some

:54:55. > :54:58.uncertainty there. I speak to businesses all the time up and down

:54:59. > :55:01.the country and there is no question that there is an appetite in the

:55:02. > :55:07.English regions and London and the devolved administrations for more

:55:08. > :55:09.spending and tax powers, for more control over local economic

:55:10. > :55:14.development. Their desire for an extra layer of Government, but

:55:15. > :55:19.politicians would love that. -- no desire. We should avoid that. And

:55:20. > :55:23.also a desire for a resolution to the English question of Scottish MPs

:55:24. > :55:29.voting on English matters. There has been some talk that a Yes vote would

:55:30. > :55:33.have made a UK exit from the EU more likely. Is it a good thing for

:55:34. > :55:37.business that that has been settled? Obviously it has not been settled,

:55:38. > :55:42.because we have not had a referendum on it, it seems more likely. The

:55:43. > :55:46.majority of businesses wants to remain in the single market but not

:55:47. > :55:49.at any price, so actually they support the Prime Minister's

:55:50. > :55:53.position on renegotiation. The real lesson from this is that our

:55:54. > :55:56.politicians are not very good at high stakes poker said they will

:55:57. > :56:03.have to sharpen up their act when it comes to negotiating with the EU. --

:56:04. > :56:07.so they will have to. The stock market opened shortly and we can

:56:08. > :56:14.expect gains on the pound, RBS and Lloyds.

:56:15. > :56:18.Thank you. Douglas Alexander will be leaving us in a second. A final

:56:19. > :56:23.thought from you after the events of the night? A momentous decision and

:56:24. > :56:27.a momentous night. A great day for Scotland. I couldn't be more proud

:56:28. > :56:33.of the decision that we have made to work for faster, safer and better

:56:34. > :56:37.change. The choice was ours but the consequences will be felt in every

:56:38. > :56:41.part of the UK. It is a great day not just for Scotland but the whole

:56:42. > :56:43.of the United Kingdom. Certainly more questions to be answered but

:56:44. > :00:26.thank you for very good morning. It is 8am on

:00:27. > :00:29.Friday the 19th of September and we are reporting the result of the

:00:30. > :00:39.Scottish referendum on independence. By a hefty margin, 55% to 45%, the

:00:40. > :00:42.people of Scotland have decided to reject independence and stay with

:00:43. > :00:50.the United Kingdom. There we have it on Pacific key in Glasgow, 1.5

:00:51. > :00:53.million votes in favour of splitting. It is a very significant

:00:54. > :01:03.number and 1.9 million deciding to stay with the union. The verdict is

:01:04. > :01:07.clear. But the pattern of voting is interesting, it opens lots of

:01:08. > :01:13.questions and the turnout at around 85, 80 6% is really matter to wonder

:01:14. > :01:21.at. We have never seen anything like it in the modern era of politics. --

:01:22. > :01:25.86%. It is an impressive performance all round and a great advert for

:01:26. > :01:31.Scottish democracy. We will have much more reaction. The Chief

:01:32. > :01:36.Secretary to the Treasury, Danny Alexander has joined us. We will

:01:37. > :01:38.have a few words from you in a moment, but we will catch up with

:01:39. > :01:54.other events. David Cameron said he was delighted

:01:55. > :02:01.the country voted to keep the four nations together. In an impressive

:02:02. > :02:14.turnout, the No campaign won by 55% to 45%. Scotland's First Minister,

:02:15. > :02:16.Alex Salmond has said he accepted defeat but calls on more powers for

:02:17. > :02:22.Scotland. That is the word they are not used

:02:23. > :02:26.to saying, this is the official Their mood was

:02:27. > :02:44.in stark contrast to his. By the time he arrived in

:02:45. > :02:51.Edinburgh, his brave face was back and he decided to accentuate the

:02:52. > :02:56.positive. Thank you to Scotland for 1.6 million votes for Scottish

:02:57. > :02:59.independent. Then he called on his supporters to accept defeat. I

:03:00. > :03:04.accept the verdict of the people and I call on all of Scotland to follow

:03:05. > :03:09.suit and accepting the Democratic verdict from the people of

:03:10. > :03:14.Scotland. The leader of the Better Together campaign declared an ovoid

:03:15. > :03:20.did not mean no change. As we celebrate, let's also listen, more

:03:21. > :03:25.than 85% of the population has voted, people who were disengaged

:03:26. > :03:29.from politics have turned out in large numbers. In Downing Street,

:03:30. > :03:36.the Prime Minister promised more devolution for Scotland, England,

:03:37. > :03:43.Wales and Northern Ireland. Now the debate has been saddled for a

:03:44. > :03:47.generation. Or, as Alex Salmond has said, for a lifetime. -- settled.

:03:48. > :03:56.There are no disputes, no reruns, we have heard the settled will of the

:03:57. > :04:00.Scottish people. But Scottish MPs may have fewer rights at

:04:01. > :04:03.Westminster. We have heard the voice of Scotland and now the millions of

:04:04. > :04:11.voices of England must also be heard. The question of English votes

:04:12. > :04:16.for English laws, the so-called West Lothian question, requires a

:04:17. > :04:24.decisive answer. The first council to declare set the tone for the rest

:04:25. > :04:31.of the night. No, 19,036. Central Scotland was the

:04:32. > :04:35.first area to declare with the majority of voters say no. It

:04:36. > :04:41.sounded the alarm of the Yes campaign and it was clear the

:04:42. > :04:44.momentum was with their opponents. The results came thick and fast,

:04:45. > :04:51.though mostly from small island councils from Orkney and Shetland.

:04:52. > :04:57.The Yes campaign did get the consolation of winning in Glasgow,

:04:58. > :05:11.Scotland's largest city. Yes, 194,000. No, 169,347. Turnout has

:05:12. > :05:15.been high, 75% in Glasgow to more than 90% in sterling and there were

:05:16. > :05:20.high spirits at the No campaign when they had the majority of voters had

:05:21. > :05:23.decided to embrace the union and voted for Scotland to stay in the

:05:24. > :05:29.UK. Nigel Farage, the leader of UKIP,

:05:30. > :05:35.has called for a debate to decide how funding for the devolved nations

:05:36. > :05:40.is decided. The English taxpayer has been patient and quiet to with

:05:41. > :05:46.this. We spend as a nation, ?1600 more on every Scot and we do and

:05:47. > :05:50.every English person. I think the Barnett formula should be debated in

:05:51. > :05:53.the House of Commons, let's get the country involved in this. I don't

:05:54. > :05:59.English taxpayers should be bound from a last-minute panic promised

:06:00. > :06:03.from the Prime Minister. The appointments of Lord Smith of

:06:04. > :06:08.Kelvin has been appointed to oversee more devolution. He was the chair of

:06:09. > :06:11.the organising committee for the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow. David

:06:12. > :06:16.Cameron says Scotland will be given more control over tax, spending and

:06:17. > :06:20.welfare and draft legislation would be ready by January.

:06:21. > :06:26.Politicians on both sides have praised the record turnout and 85%

:06:27. > :06:32.of registered voters went to the ballot box. Thousands stayed up to

:06:33. > :06:37.watch the results and others lined the streets waiting for the news.

:06:38. > :06:42.George Square in Glasgow, so often at the heart of the Yes campaign,

:06:43. > :06:47.defiance this morning in the face of mounting vote for maintaining the

:06:48. > :06:52.union. As voting took place on Thursday there was a carnival

:06:53. > :06:57.atmosphere, but as the results trickled through, the mood changed

:06:58. > :07:01.to anger and disappointment. A fiercely fought campaign has reached

:07:02. > :07:06.its end. The passion and intensity of the debate is being matched by

:07:07. > :07:13.the emotional reaction to its outcome. This was the first time I

:07:14. > :07:16.voted. It was the most emotional experience, and I loved it. I will

:07:17. > :07:22.do it every time. Hopefully, the next time round people will make the

:07:23. > :07:31.right decision and voted yes next time. But, the Better Together

:07:32. > :07:36.campaign, elation as counter, after count, showed the No vote ahead.

:07:37. > :07:40.Success was not certain so it made victory all the sweeter. Outside

:07:41. > :07:44.Holyrood in Edinburgh, young yes campaigners were coming to terms

:07:45. > :07:50.with defeat. Many Scots took part in the elect Turrell processed the

:07:51. > :07:56.first time and some have been left disappointed and disillusioned. They

:07:57. > :07:59.will be watching as negotiations begin over the new powers Scotland

:08:00. > :08:06.has been promised. Now back to Scotland Decides.

:08:07. > :08:15.I mentioned earlier Danny Alexander, the Chief Secretary to the

:08:16. > :08:25.Treasury, John Curtis has joined as at the desk. I am honoured. Before I

:08:26. > :08:30.bring Danny in and Alex Neil is still here, and Sarah. John, let's

:08:31. > :08:37.have some considered thoughts on what we have heard from David

:08:38. > :08:42.Cameron and Alex Salmond about the process. If I were being, the

:08:43. > :08:46.exercises now being attempted, if you will excuse the phrase, the fag

:08:47. > :08:50.end of government is going to attempt to come up with a new

:08:51. > :08:54.constitutional settlement for Scotland and at the same time try to

:08:55. > :08:58.solve one of the most difficult elliptical question, the West

:08:59. > :09:07.Lothian question. -- political question. They have given themselves

:09:08. > :09:14.a difficult task. Is it impossible? The truth is, nobody has come up

:09:15. > :09:24.with a answer to the West Lothian question. Someone has come up with

:09:25. > :09:28.most regards as quite a sensible idea, along the stage of the passage

:09:29. > :09:35.of English legislation there should be an indicative vote of English

:09:36. > :09:38.only. Listening to the leader of the house this morning, William Hague,

:09:39. > :09:44.was suggesting it will not be good enough. That implies, not only do

:09:45. > :09:47.the parties have to try to come to an agreement about what I want to do

:09:48. > :09:52.for Scotland, and we know there is a lot of difference between them. But

:09:53. > :09:57.we will have to start from scratch again in trying to solve the West

:09:58. > :10:01.Lothian question. Given this exercise is now going to be

:10:02. > :10:08.attempted, when what all three Unionist bodies need to do, is to

:10:09. > :10:12.fight each other in order to win power in May 20 15, one can see

:10:13. > :10:18.plenty of reasons why this enterprise might not succeed. Why

:10:19. > :10:23.would it succeed, Danny? We are committed to making it succeed. I

:10:24. > :10:27.think the most important feature of this referendum, apart from the

:10:28. > :10:32.overwhelming democratic participation is very strong mandate

:10:33. > :10:39.it gives to have and to deliver the change to Scotland within the United

:10:40. > :10:42.Kingdom. I feel a great sense of humility and responsibility to doing

:10:43. > :10:47.that will stop the lighted Alex Salmond has said the SNP would want

:10:48. > :10:54.to be involved in that process. Lots of ideas already on the table in

:10:55. > :10:59.respect to further devolution to Scotland. I want to deliver. It has

:11:00. > :11:02.to be as ambitious as possible to show the people of Scotland the fate

:11:03. > :11:09.they have shown in the United Kingdom in this referendum will be

:11:10. > :11:14.repaid. That is understood, that is the Scottish response. We understand

:11:15. > :11:18.the shape of that. It is this looking on, if you like, of an

:11:19. > :11:23.attempted solution of the English problem which we are looking at. It

:11:24. > :11:28.is the timetable. We will set up a Cabinet committee right away and

:11:29. > :11:37.proposals will be ready to the same timetable. Everyone is suggesting

:11:38. > :11:43.that is just not remotely possible. Why try and convince us? How will it

:11:44. > :11:47.work? The point is to try to achieve a consensus around this. One of the

:11:48. > :11:54.remarkable things about this referendum, it is not just inspired

:11:55. > :12:00.a debate in Scotland, but a debate in the rest of the United Kingdom.

:12:01. > :12:03.We were talking about strengthening the engagement of English MPs, and

:12:04. > :12:10.that provides a useful starting point. He talked about a more

:12:11. > :12:15.fundamental solution which suggested something more radical. I did not

:12:16. > :12:20.hear what William Hague said. The Mackay commission starts a good

:12:21. > :12:25.basis to start from. Your search for consensus is already unravelling.

:12:26. > :12:29.The point of consensus is people start with different views and then

:12:30. > :12:35.you bring them together. I am quite sure we can do that for these wider

:12:36. > :12:41.questions. There is also a debate in Wales, I followed that. The silk

:12:42. > :12:44.commission is being delivered but we need to have a further conversation

:12:45. > :12:50.about that. As a member of a party who has long believed in a

:12:51. > :12:56.constitutional reform at federal level, it is a great opportunity to

:12:57. > :13:00.take those debates forward. There is a strong will and the Barnett

:13:01. > :13:06.formula is a disaster and should not be pursued. Gordon Brown has been

:13:07. > :13:11.firm about it. What is your view on it. It works well for the rest of

:13:12. > :13:16.the United Kingdom. It was part of the statement made by the three UK

:13:17. > :13:21.party leaders over the course of the last week. In Wales there is a

:13:22. > :13:25.specific issue about convergence of funding and there is the idea which

:13:26. > :13:30.we have agreed to look at already with the Welsh assembly government

:13:31. > :13:38.about a flaw in the Barnett formula in respect of Wales. I think it is a

:13:39. > :13:42.way of Ansell ring that specific Welsh concern, but within the

:13:43. > :13:47.framework of a funding system which does meet the needs of all of the

:13:48. > :13:56.United Kingdom. -- Ansell ring. We have a result. Results from my area

:13:57. > :14:02.at last. This is the last results. It does not affect the outcome. But

:14:03. > :14:07.this is number 32 of the declarations which started many

:14:08. > :14:22.hours ago. The Highland region. It has voted no. 87,000 to 78,000. The

:14:23. > :14:30.percentage is 53% voting no and 47% voting for independence. Another

:14:31. > :14:34.great turnout of 87%. I am pleased the Highlands have voted no, in

:14:35. > :14:40.common with the rest of Scotland. But there is a strong body of yes

:14:41. > :14:45.support. What we have to do is bring Scotland together again and I think

:14:46. > :14:50.this process of further devolution is one of the tools for doing that.

:14:51. > :14:54.Alex and I and colleagues in all parties, need to work together to

:14:55. > :14:59.ensure Scotland comes together. It is part of the debate in the

:15:00. > :15:02.Highlands, it is not just more powers for Scotland but more powers

:15:03. > :15:07.devolved in Scotland. One of the issues in the Highlands particularly

:15:08. > :15:13.is power in Edinburgh and the debate we have had, is how can we have

:15:14. > :15:20.devolution in Scotland as well as devolution to Scotland. This is now

:15:21. > :15:29.the official, final tally we have after 32 votes have been declared.

:15:30. > :15:35.It is 8:15am on the morning after referendum day. This is the official

:15:36. > :15:43.results. More than 2 million votes against independence. 1.6 million in

:15:44. > :15:46.favour of independence. Lots of people have pointed out it is a high

:15:47. > :15:50.number of people voting for the break-up of the United Kingdom or

:15:51. > :15:56.the break-up of Scotland from the rest of the United Kingdom. That is

:15:57. > :15:59.the reason why there is so much pressure to address that issue. If

:16:00. > :16:07.you look at the turnout, 85%. We have seen nothing like that in a

:16:08. > :16:13.national poll of its kind. Just confirming what John gave us

:16:14. > :16:17.earlier, 55% to 45%. This is something we may pick up again

:16:18. > :16:23.later, that is actually, a much bigger margin than the vast majority

:16:24. > :16:29.of the opinion polls had suggested. Most were suggesting a modest lead

:16:30. > :16:35.for the No campaign. It is a 10% margin.

:16:36. > :16:43.Sarah Connolly wanted to respond to what Danny Alexander was saying.

:16:44. > :16:49.Yes, he was saying that the three parties have a broad consensus on

:16:50. > :16:53.Scotland. That is because we have been having this referendum campaign

:16:54. > :17:06.City years and every detail has been pored over by political parties and

:17:07. > :17:12.voters. -- for two years. A sizeable group of people will insist that

:17:13. > :17:15.change comes to Edinburgh. That will affect England, but that has not

:17:16. > :17:25.been taught about the two years and there has not been broad consensus

:17:26. > :17:36.between the parties. -- talked about for two years. Nothing less than

:17:37. > :17:40.English votes for in this MPs is what Tories are saying. But I

:17:41. > :17:46.assumed that is not an acceptable solution for Danny Alexander. Let's

:17:47. > :17:50.pause. In a few moments I hope to be talking to the royal correspondent

:17:51. > :17:54.at Balmoral. I'm interested to hear what Nicholas Witchell have to say.

:17:55. > :18:01.But first we will get the weather with Carol. Thank you and good

:18:02. > :18:06.morning from Edinburgh. You can see behind me that it is a fairly dreich

:18:07. > :18:09.start to the day. If we look at the view outside the Scottish

:18:10. > :18:14.Parliament, there is a lot of low cloud around and it is misty and

:18:15. > :18:19.murky and damp. That is the picture across many eastern and central

:18:20. > :18:23.parts of the UK. As well as that we have scattered showers. Overnight

:18:24. > :18:27.and this morning some of those have been torrential across parts of

:18:28. > :18:35.England and Wales, particularly of late across parts of East Devon. As

:18:36. > :18:38.well as being torrential, they are also thundery and they will rumble

:18:39. > :18:44.on for some time. The brightest spots in Scotland will be the West

:18:45. > :18:49.and the Moray Firth. We have threat coming in across the North East of

:18:50. > :18:53.England but some sunshine. In East Anglia and towards the South coast,

:18:54. > :18:58.this is where we are prone to the thundery downpours that we have

:18:59. > :19:02.already had. They are isolated and in between there will be bright

:19:03. > :19:07.skies and sunshine. There will be heavy ones around East Devon and

:19:08. > :19:13.they will carry on all morning. And in Wales, too, not immune to the

:19:14. > :19:17.thundery downpours. In between, brighter skies and sunshine. A murky

:19:18. > :19:23.start to the day for Northern Ireland. Here a lot of low cloud and

:19:24. > :19:27.misty conditions as well. It will brighten up but we cannot rule out

:19:28. > :19:33.showers through the course of the day. We hang on to a lot of cloud in

:19:34. > :19:37.eastern and central areas and they continue across parts of England and

:19:38. > :19:41.Wales, with further heavy thundery showers developing in the South in

:19:42. > :19:45.the afternoon. Temperatures down on yesterday but nonetheless we will

:19:46. > :19:49.have high temperatures of 24. Through the evening and overnight

:19:50. > :19:54.the thundery showers continued to rumble on with cloud around across

:19:55. > :19:58.England and Wales. It will be humid overnight here. In Scotland and

:19:59. > :20:05.Northern Ireland, the cloud clears and it will be cooler that it has

:20:06. > :20:09.been and in rural areas temperatures in single figures. A bright note

:20:10. > :20:14.with some sunshine in the morning and in the East brighter than it has

:20:15. > :20:19.been this week. In England and Wales, showers rumbling away in the

:20:20. > :20:27.morning, but an improvement as we go through the day. And on Sunday, many

:20:28. > :20:34.of us get off to a dry start. Or cloud will romp in from the North

:20:35. > :20:40.seat into eastern areas and temperatures will be down. -- more

:20:41. > :20:44.cloud will romp in from the North Sea. The cloud will break up and

:20:45. > :20:52.there will be sunshine around and the showers will be using this

:20:53. > :20:53.weekend. Thank you. It is 8:20am at the BBC headquarters in Glasgow. We

:20:54. > :20:56.have been talking about the the BBC headquarters in Glasgow. We

:20:57. > :21:04.have been talking about the aftermath of the independence

:21:05. > :21:08.referendum result. A 55% to 45% victory for the No campaign. I was

:21:09. > :21:12.talking to Nicholas Witchell at Balmoral earlier, talking about

:21:13. > :21:15.where the Queen was monitoring the results and thoughts on attitudes

:21:16. > :21:23.that. What are your thoughts this morning? I think undoubtedly there

:21:24. > :21:27.will be tremendous relief inside Balmoral. I know that the Queen's

:21:28. > :21:30.senior officials have been up all night following the results and of

:21:31. > :21:39.course they will have been keeping her closely involved. How private

:21:40. > :21:46.feelings must be ones of relief and pleasure. -- her private feelings.

:21:47. > :21:53.This can't have been easy for her at her eight at this point in her reign

:21:54. > :21:57.to contemplate the possible break-up of the UK. She has kept her feelings

:21:58. > :22:02.to herself. She is very much aware of where the line is in her

:22:03. > :22:07.responsibilities as a constitutional monarch. She made one observation

:22:08. > :22:10.after church last Sunday and I do believe some members of the family

:22:11. > :22:13.will have been urging her to speak out and say rather more but that is

:22:14. > :22:17.what he judged it would be appropriate for her to say, to

:22:18. > :22:23.maintain her neutrality away from politics. In terms of today, I think

:22:24. > :22:28.what we will get later this afternoon perhaps is a short written

:22:29. > :22:32.statement from the Queen. I imagine that will be a statement to the

:22:33. > :22:37.effect that the decision has been taken, that we should now move on,

:22:38. > :22:40.because I think the divisiveness of the campaign has been something that

:22:41. > :22:45.has been of considerable concern to her. Clearly at this stage we don't

:22:46. > :22:50.know the details of any statement that is issued. If, as we expect,

:22:51. > :22:54.there is a statement this afternoon, I am sure it will urge the people of

:22:55. > :22:59.Scotland to accept the result and move on in the interests of

:23:00. > :23:03.Scotland. Thank you. Nicholas Witchell at Balmoral in

:23:04. > :23:08.Aberdeenshire. If there is any more from him on that written statement,

:23:09. > :23:11.if we get it, we will bring it to you straightaway. Let's update you

:23:12. > :23:15.on the story of the night. It has been a very long night. We have been

:23:16. > :23:20.on the air since 10:40pm last night and we got the final declaration in

:23:21. > :23:25.Danny Alexander's area of the Highlands just a few moments ago but

:23:26. > :23:30.now we have the final tally in. Let Jeremy tell us the story of how it

:23:31. > :23:37.happened. Here is the final percentage after

:23:38. > :23:43.this referendum. Yes 45%. No on 55%. They cleared 10% margin for the

:23:44. > :23:48.noes. Wider than anything that the polls were telling us about in the

:23:49. > :23:53.run-up to this dramatic day and night of voting and counting. Let's

:23:54. > :24:00.look at this map of results. We have coloured in areas where the noes

:24:01. > :24:03.won. The noes in red, and almost the whole of Scotland covered. You can

:24:04. > :24:13.see the four areas where the yes votes were ahead, the three Glasgow

:24:14. > :24:18.and surrounding -- Dumfries, Glasgow and surrounding areas. And if we go

:24:19. > :24:26.back to the map of councils, these are the 32 voting areas. It is awash

:24:27. > :24:30.with red colouring. So many. Just four green ones. Glasgow, the

:24:31. > :24:35.biggest, went for yes, and so did North Lanarkshire, another big

:24:36. > :24:38.council. It was not enough. Edinburgh, Fife, South Lanarkshire,

:24:39. > :24:44.Aberdeenshire, the other huge councils saying no. The first

:24:45. > :24:51.results we had came in on the smaller councils, Shetland, Orkney,

:24:52. > :24:55.all coming in early in the evening, all saying no. It was quite some

:24:56. > :25:02.time before Dundee City became the first yes. After this extraordinary

:25:03. > :25:09.night, I can show you hear a spread of these council areas, with the

:25:10. > :25:14.noes on this site and the yes on this site. We will not call it a

:25:15. > :25:18.white loss, the margin, but it is certainly a very convincing victory

:25:19. > :25:24.to those who argued that Scotland should stay in the United Kingdom.

:25:25. > :25:29.These are the four yes councils, Dundee City, West Dunbartonshire,

:25:30. > :25:34.North Lanarkshire and Glasgow, just four out of 32 councils. Come with

:25:35. > :25:37.me and you will see the other councils, the margins increasing as

:25:38. > :25:41.you come down here, until we get to the councils that voted no most

:25:42. > :25:46.decisively. Scottish Borders, Dumfries and Galloway for example.

:25:47. > :25:55.On the border with England. Orkney, Shetland. Yes, this was convincing.

:25:56. > :25:58.As you can see, in the end only four council areas going with the

:25:59. > :26:04.arguments of those that said Scotland should leave the UK.

:26:05. > :26:07.Jeremy, once again, thank you very much. Jeremy has the blocks that

:26:08. > :26:12.tell us what happened. When you see the map, it is pretty dramatic, that

:26:13. > :26:16.red colouring. It is to do with the nature of some of the areas but it

:26:17. > :29:48.is the concentration of votes in smaller areas, too.

:29:49. > :29:56.Good morning. If you are just joining us, it is just about 8:30am

:29:57. > :29:59.on BBC1 and we are looking at the result of the referendum in Scotland

:30:00. > :30:06.and considering the invitations of it. It is a very clear result. At

:30:07. > :30:09.the headquarters of BBC Scotland, Pacific key in Glasgow, we are

:30:10. > :30:15.broadcasting these figures. The yes campaign attracted 1.6 million

:30:16. > :30:21.voters, a very considerable number favouring independence but they were

:30:22. > :30:27.beaten by the No campaign, who attracted just over 2 million

:30:28. > :30:32.voters. The margin in terms of percentages, 55-45, so a healthy 10%

:30:33. > :30:35.margin for the No campaign. We will have more response in a moment but

:30:36. > :30:41.first, a new summary with Charlie Stayt.

:30:42. > :30:46.Good morning. David Cameron has welcomed Scotland's decision to

:30:47. > :30:50.remain within the UK, saying he was delighted the voters wanted to keep

:30:51. > :30:54.the country of four nations together. In an unprecedented

:30:55. > :31:00.turnout, the No campaign won by a margin of 55%, to 45%. It was a

:31:01. > :31:04.disappointing night for the Yes campaign which was ahead in only

:31:05. > :31:07.four areas. First Minister Alex Salmond has said he accepts defeat

:31:08. > :31:12.but called on the main British parties to honour their pledge to

:31:13. > :31:15.devolve more power to Scotland. Our political correspondence Iain Watson

:31:16. > :31:21.has been following the night's events.

:31:22. > :31:25.That is a word they are not used as saying, this is the official No

:31:26. > :31:29.campaign, better together macro, celebrating Scotland say no to

:31:30. > :31:34.independence. It was in stark contrast to his mood, the leader

:31:35. > :31:37.Robbie Yes campaign, Alex Salmond, on the verge of conceding defeat as

:31:38. > :31:41.he left Aberdeenshire. By the time he had arrived in Edinburgh, the

:31:42. > :31:47.brave face was back and he decided to accentuate the positives. Thank

:31:48. > :31:53.you to Scotland for 1.6 million votes for Scottish independence. He

:31:54. > :31:57.called on his supporters to accept defeat. I accept the verdict of the

:31:58. > :32:00.people, and I call on all of Scotland to follow suit and accept

:32:01. > :32:10.the democratic verdict of the people of Scotland. APPLAUSE

:32:11. > :32:15.The leader of the better together campaign declared that a no vote did

:32:16. > :32:19.not mean no change. As we celebrate, let us also listen, because more

:32:20. > :32:22.than 85% of the Scottish population has voted, people who were

:32:23. > :32:28.disengaged with politics have turned out in large numbers. In Downing

:32:29. > :32:32.Street, the Prime Minister promised more devolution for Scotland, Wales

:32:33. > :32:36.and Northern Ireland, and said the question of independence had been

:32:37. > :32:40.decisively answered. Now the debate has been settled for generation, or

:32:41. > :32:45.as Alex Salmond has said, Pat Sara lifetime. We have heard the voice of

:32:46. > :32:54.Scotland, and now the millions of voices of England must also be

:32:55. > :32:58.heard. The question of English votes for English laws, the so-called West

:32:59. > :33:05.Lothian question, requires a decisive answer. Turnout has been

:33:06. > :33:08.high, from 75% in Glasgow, to more than 90% in sterling. There were

:33:09. > :33:12.high spirits at the No campaign when they heard the majority of voters

:33:13. > :33:18.had decided to embrace the union and voted for Scotland to stay in the

:33:19. > :33:20.UK. The Prime Minister has also

:33:21. > :33:24.announced the appointment of Lord Smith of Kelvin to oversee the

:33:25. > :33:28.implementation of more devolution. Lord Smith was the chair of the

:33:29. > :33:31.organising committee for the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow

:33:32. > :33:35.earlier this year. David Cameron says Scotland will be given more

:33:36. > :33:40.control over tax, spending and welfare. He said draft legislation

:33:41. > :33:43.would be ready by January. Politicians on both sides have

:33:44. > :33:47.praised the record number of people in Scotland who voted in the

:33:48. > :33:51.referendum. More than 84% of eligible voters had their say at the

:33:52. > :33:56.ballot box. Turnout in some areas reached more than 90%. Thousands of

:33:57. > :34:01.people stayed up all night to watch the results come in with many lining

:34:02. > :34:04.the streets to wait for the outcome. Hopefully, the next time around,

:34:05. > :34:10.people will make the right decision and vote yes next time. Delighted. I

:34:11. > :34:16.was worried walking around the last few days with so many Yes campaign

:34:17. > :34:20.notices in the windows. It was the first time I voted and I was so

:34:21. > :34:25.emotional, it was the most emotional experience of my life and I loved

:34:26. > :34:28.it. The London financial market has opened this morning with the FTSE

:34:29. > :34:32.unchanged as polls closed last night. The pound hit a two-year high

:34:33. > :34:37.against the euro. In the last hour, the CBI has said there has been a

:34:38. > :34:41.collective sigh of relief across the business community in reaction to

:34:42. > :34:44.the no vote. The Royal Bank of Scotland has confirmed its

:34:45. > :34:49.commitment to Scotland, saying it is business as usual for its customers.

:34:50. > :34:58.That is this morning's main news. Now back to Scotland Decides.

:34:59. > :35:08.Charlie with the new summary, there. We have had the official declaration

:35:09. > :35:12.from the chief counting officer, Mary Pitcaithley, who has been

:35:13. > :35:15.overseeing this enormous process. One or two logistical things could

:35:16. > :35:18.not have been foreseen but they have been overcome. This was the official

:35:19. > :35:24.announcement, made just a few minutes ago.

:35:25. > :35:27.The total number of votes cast in favour of each answer to the

:35:28. > :35:41.referendum question for the whole of Scotland is as follows. Yes, the

:35:42. > :35:52.number of votes, 1,617,989. No, the number of votes, 2 million. There

:35:53. > :36:00.were 3429 rejected papers. The reasons for rejection are as

:36:01. > :36:06.follows, want of an official Mark, 16 papers. Voting in favour of both

:36:07. > :36:12.answers, 691 papers. Writing more mark by which the voter could be

:36:13. > :36:22.identified, 168 papers. Unmarked or void for uncertainty, 2554 papers.

:36:23. > :36:25.There you have it, the official announcement by the chief counting

:36:26. > :36:30.officer, the official announcement of the result of this referendum. It

:36:31. > :36:35.is, as we have been stating for the past hour or so, having had the

:36:36. > :36:39.official tallies in, a convincing win for the No campaign. Having said

:36:40. > :36:44.that, a significant number of people voted for independence nonetheless.

:36:45. > :36:51.Let's talk a bit about the business response. It is going on, the

:36:52. > :36:54.markets opened at 8am. Let's talk to business leaders in central

:36:55. > :37:01.Edinburgh. Good morning. The mist is just

:37:02. > :37:04.starting to clear in Edinburgh. Everyone is getting ready for a day

:37:05. > :37:07.at work. I'm in the financial district in Edinburgh with some of

:37:08. > :37:12.the key business people who have been speaking out on both sides of

:37:13. > :37:15.the debate. First, Sir Brian Souter. A smile on your face but you're

:37:16. > :37:20.probably disappointed with the result. Yes, as a protagonist of

:37:21. > :37:23.independence, I'm naturally disappointed but I think we have

:37:24. > :37:26.achieved a great deal with the campaign. We have been guaranteed

:37:27. > :37:30.the Barnett formula which is important for funding education and

:37:31. > :37:35.health services. We have been guaranteed additional powers from

:37:36. > :37:39.Westminster. And we have acted as a catalyst to change the political

:37:40. > :37:42.politics of the UK. I think it has been an amazing result. The way

:37:43. > :37:48.people were galvanised together, the people that had not voted for 30 or

:37:49. > :37:53.40 years, participating, there has been some real, amazing results from

:37:54. > :37:57.this. Overall, I think I'm very happy. We have heard Nicola Sturgeon

:37:58. > :38:02.saying that although it did not go their way, it did not go to the Yes

:38:03. > :38:08.campaign, this will be to change. Do you think it will? I think it has

:38:09. > :38:11.to. We will hold the Unionist politicians to the changes they are

:38:12. > :38:15.promising. But I believe the change will be much wider than that. We

:38:16. > :38:19.have to address the issue of the English regions, the West Lothian

:38:20. > :38:23.question, some of these questions that have not been answered me to be

:38:24. > :38:31.answered for the future. I think the people of Scotland are leading the

:38:32. > :38:36.way to complete of our politics and renewal of interest in politics. I

:38:37. > :38:40.think that is break sighting, to be part of that. I'm delighted we have

:38:41. > :38:45.been able to galvanise and be part of the process. -- that is very

:38:46. > :38:50.exciting. In terms of the commission led by Lord Smith of Kelvin, what

:38:51. > :38:55.are you expecting to hear from its report in November? I am hoping we

:38:56. > :38:59.will get real, fiscal autonomy to the Holyrood parliament. I am hoping

:39:00. > :39:02.we will get a number of levers which are important to trigger the

:39:03. > :39:07.economy. We have some promises already. We need to create a dynamic

:39:08. > :39:11.economy in Scotland. We need more power to do that. We want to attract

:39:12. > :39:17.business to invest here, locate here. I am quite excited about that.

:39:18. > :39:24.The message for business is Scotland is open for business. The message to

:39:25. > :39:28.the politicians is, business can't be the same for them again. They

:39:29. > :39:32.need to change. Thank you for joining us. I have the former Chief

:39:33. > :39:36.Executive of the Scotch whiskey as usual with me. You did not want

:39:37. > :39:41.Scotland to becoming dependent and it has not. What is your reaction?

:39:42. > :39:44.Very relieved and business in Scotland will be very relieved

:39:45. > :39:48.because it removes a great deal of uncertainty. For businesses, is the

:39:49. > :39:54.uncertainty completely gone? Changes are still afoot. Two there are still

:39:55. > :39:58.changes, there is tax and devilish and a further powers but we can work

:39:59. > :40:03.with government in business to make sure that it is in the interests of

:40:04. > :40:09.Scotland and the UK. It is very important that we need to galvanise

:40:10. > :40:11.and encourage enterprise. We need to create jobs and it is important

:40:12. > :40:20.Scotland has those powers and uses them effectively for the betterment

:40:21. > :40:24.of Scotland. Also, and Richard from Aberdeen asset management. What has

:40:25. > :40:30.the business reaction been overall? Business is glad we have retained a

:40:31. > :40:33.single market for goods and services across the UK. Some of the

:40:34. > :40:36.uncertainty around currency and financial services, and for my

:40:37. > :40:40.industry around regulation and the continuing involvement for the Bank

:40:41. > :40:43.of England has been removed. We always have a level of uncertainty

:40:44. > :40:46.in our businesses and although there will be uncertainty to come from

:40:47. > :40:51.these political changes we are talking about, that is business as

:40:52. > :40:55.usual for most. The pound has rallied overnight which suggests the

:40:56. > :40:59.markets are happy with the result. What is your reaction? I think that

:41:00. > :41:03.is right. Some of the uncertainty has been taken away, particularly

:41:04. > :41:08.around the pound. As we go into next week, this bit of a relief rally, on

:41:09. > :41:11.the back of the referendum, will be overtaken by themselves where,

:41:12. > :41:14.whether it is in Europe or some of the political uncertainty we are

:41:15. > :41:17.seeing in the Middle East. It will be back to business as usual on

:41:18. > :41:22.Monday morning. Thank you for joining us. Thanks to everyone who

:41:23. > :41:27.has stood out in the drizzle with me this morning. That is it from me in

:41:28. > :41:30.Edinburgh. Thanks to the guests for braving the

:41:31. > :41:35.elements. Danny, some thoughts on the business reaction? Cloud of

:41:36. > :41:39.uncertainty has been lifted from the Scottish economy. We have seen a

:41:40. > :41:41.positive reaction on the market this morning and there has been an

:41:42. > :41:45.overwhelming sense from business that the priority is to get on with

:41:46. > :41:48.investment. We will see a growth spurt in the Scottish economy, I

:41:49. > :41:52.think, because investment plans have been on hold and a lot of people

:41:53. > :41:56.have waited to see the result. Especially with the decisive nature

:41:57. > :42:08.of the result of the referendum and the clarity from Alex Salmond, that

:42:09. > :42:11.he sees this as part of the wider UK economic recovery. We are creating

:42:12. > :42:17.jobs and growth and we needed continue. The once in a generation

:42:18. > :42:25.theme, once-in-a-lifetime, do you see any prospect of this question

:42:26. > :42:29.being revisited in 20 years? A lot will depend on whether the UK

:42:30. > :42:33.parties deliver their promises and their vows, how much power they give

:42:34. > :42:38.us. Brian Souter mentioned fiscal autonomy. I think we need

:42:39. > :42:41.substantial economic powers. At the end of the day, the Scottish people

:42:42. > :42:45.don't believe they are getting enough. I'm not saying there will be

:42:46. > :42:49.another independence referendum in a few years but they will certainly

:42:50. > :42:53.press also stand will change. If these guys don't deliver, they will

:42:54. > :42:58.pay a heavy political price because we have 2 elections coming up in the

:42:59. > :43:01.next 18 months, the 2015 general election and the 2016 Scottish

:43:02. > :43:09.Parliamentary election. If they don't deliver, I believe the people

:43:10. > :43:11.of Scotland, including people who voted no yesterday will treat them

:43:12. > :43:14.very severely indeed. Back with you in a second. We are rapidly

:43:15. > :43:21.approaching the end of this part of the broadcast, this marathon. Why

:43:22. > :43:24.don't we pay one last visit to Jeremy Vine, who has been guiding us

:43:25. > :43:30.through the landscape through the night? Tell us the story of the

:43:31. > :43:32.victory of the No campaign. What an amazing day and what an

:43:33. > :43:38.amazing night of voting and counting. Here are the 32 council

:43:39. > :43:42.areas that became the battlegrounds. Let me take you through what

:43:43. > :43:47.happened, our buy power. The first councils to come in at 1am, just

:43:48. > :43:54.after, Clackmannanshire and Orkney. You can see already, the No campaign

:43:55. > :43:59.was starting to take a lead. These are small councils. More island

:44:00. > :44:03.councils, like Shetland, and the No camp just slightly ahead, waiting

:44:04. > :44:09.for the first council area to vote yes. Between 3am and 4am, we had in

:44:10. > :44:14.the Clyde and Dundee, which did say yes. And you can see that the Yes

:44:15. > :44:17.camp starts to gain ground and you wondered if they could overtake? But

:44:18. > :44:22.for Kirk, Stirling and others between 4am and 4:30am saw the No

:44:23. > :44:27.campaign go into an even stronger lead. Something dramatic happens

:44:28. > :44:33.between 4:30am and 5am, we got the result from the biggest council in

:44:34. > :44:36.Scotland, Glasgow. A huge number of votes which took us all the way down

:44:37. > :44:43.this balcony to hear, but not far enough to put the Yes campaign in

:44:44. > :44:46.the lead. The no campaign was still in the league. Between 5am and 6am,

:44:47. > :44:53.when South Ayrshire and East Ayrshire came in, the BBC was able

:44:54. > :44:59.to forecast the result would be no. At 6:10am, Fife Council declared and

:45:00. > :45:02.the No campaign crossed the winning line because it was a big council

:45:03. > :45:08.and it took them past the winning post. The Yes campaign had no hope

:45:09. > :45:12.of winning now. To add insult to injury, Moray and the Highlands also

:45:13. > :45:24.voted no. The final result in terms of numbers of votes, we can see now.

:45:25. > :45:36.Yes, the losing side, 1,617,989. No went past 2 million votes.

:45:37. > :45:44.idea of Scotland leaving the UK. Scotland voted no.

:45:45. > :45:48.Thank you very much for underlining the result for us and putting it on

:45:49. > :45:52.the big screen. There is no mistake about it, Scotland have voted no. We

:45:53. > :45:59.are gathering more reaction. My colleague or that this got -- is at

:46:00. > :46:05.the Scottish Parliament to talk about the response.

:46:06. > :46:10.Good morning everybody. We are outside the Scottish Parliament in

:46:11. > :46:18.Holyrood. Lots of people have been gathered around, voicing their

:46:19. > :46:26.opinions after a night of intensity. How are you feeling? You have been

:46:27. > :46:29.campaigning for the Yes campaign. I feel quite good, surprisingly. I was

:46:30. > :46:35.cheesed off this morning but I am proud of Scotland and what we have

:46:36. > :46:39.done. I knew it would be, but even more so, it is a triumph of social

:46:40. > :46:43.democracy. I think the Scots have shown everyone else, not just down

:46:44. > :46:49.South but across the world, that we can really do it. It is the politics

:46:50. > :46:57.of the people, finally. Not the politics of the hobnobs, the three

:46:58. > :47:04.Amigos of Westminster. What do you make of the offer they have made? I

:47:05. > :47:12.thought it was an episode of The Thick Of It. It is just ridiculous.

:47:13. > :47:19.They were just a joke, the three of them. This is what this election has

:47:20. > :47:22.done, this referendum. It has actually shaken the political

:47:23. > :47:28.establishment at its very roots. To see David Cameron come up and make a

:47:29. > :47:34.speech in Aberdeen and neglect one thing, never to talk to a voter,

:47:35. > :47:40.never to say, hello, I am David Cameron? Add Ed Miliband looking in

:47:41. > :47:46.horror at a lady talking to him, not knowing how to speak to her.

:47:47. > :47:50.Patronising, condescending, ridiculous. Now that the No vote has

:47:51. > :47:54.come through and Scotland had voted for a United Kingdom, can it be

:47:55. > :47:58.united? So many were concerned that it would be divisive. I think the

:47:59. > :48:02.thing about the Scots is they will stick to a bargain, to stick to a

:48:03. > :48:20.deal. It is up to other people to stick to their deal and that will be

:48:21. > :48:23.the difficult bit. Cameron has got to get his backbenchers in tow and

:48:24. > :48:26.this could go on for a long time. They are asking for the white paper

:48:27. > :48:30.by a certain date but I doubt they will get it. I have my doubts about

:48:31. > :48:35.that, I can tell you. Thank you very much. We have more reaction coming

:48:36. > :48:39.in. George Galloway has played a prominent part in this campaign for

:48:40. > :48:43.the Better Together campaign. He has been speaking on BBC radio and he

:48:44. > :48:48.said it was a very tough fight. We were reminded all over again, he

:48:49. > :48:56.said, how hated the Westminster political class is. Is that a fair

:48:57. > :48:59.verdict? I have spent some time campaigning with George and we have

:49:00. > :49:04.had some strange bedfellows in this campaign. He has been a powerful

:49:05. > :49:07.spokesperson in this campaign. I think we have had a lot of that

:49:08. > :49:11.resentment about politics that we see across the whole of Europe and

:49:12. > :49:14.the wider world at the moment. That has been a feature of this

:49:15. > :49:17.referendum and it sends a clear message to all of us in politics

:49:18. > :49:21.that we have to deliver the change that we have promised and that the

:49:22. > :49:26.people have asked us for. I think we have to change the way that politics

:49:27. > :49:29.works, too. We often have argument between us about things that seem

:49:30. > :49:32.quite small and this has reminded us that there are big issues in

:49:33. > :49:37.politics and that is what motivates people and get them engaged, and

:49:38. > :49:41.that is what we have to learn from this campaign. Strange bedfellows.

:49:42. > :49:43.There is another way of looking at that. There were strong performance

:49:44. > :49:48.from different branches of the political landscape. Was that one of

:49:49. > :49:52.the issues that you thought was something you were really presented

:49:53. > :49:58.with in the last few weeks, Alex? Maybe was it a telling factor? Not

:49:59. > :50:02.really because we had strong performers on our side. Alex Salmond

:50:03. > :50:05.and Nicola Sturgeon, the role they played was excellent and I think it

:50:06. > :50:09.matched anything and more that the Better Together people were able to

:50:10. > :50:13.boot up. I think Gordon Brown's intervention, and some of what he

:50:14. > :50:17.was saying was nonsense, but nevertheless people believed it and

:50:18. > :50:20.I think his intervention in the last week undoubtedly put questions into

:50:21. > :50:26.the minds of people who had decided to vote yes or who had been

:50:27. > :50:33.persuaded and then may be decided at the end of the date to vote no.

:50:34. > :50:38.There will be analysis about what really decided the outcome, but I do

:50:39. > :50:42.think that the fear factor was a big factor, and it is the flip side of

:50:43. > :50:46.confidence. One of the problems Scottish people have had, because we

:50:47. > :50:52.have been told for the last 200 years that we cannot do this and

:50:53. > :50:54.that, has been a fear factor. A confidence issue and I think that

:50:55. > :51:00.played a part in the outcome yesterday. If there is a very big

:51:01. > :51:05.fear factor, it is remarkable that more than 1.5 million people

:51:06. > :51:08.actually turned out to vote to say they wanted independence. Absolutely

:51:09. > :51:12.and maybe if the campaign had gone on another couple of months we would

:51:13. > :51:21.have managed to get the majority but it is pots and pans. At the end of

:51:22. > :51:29.the day, the result is 55% now and 45% yes. -- 55% no. At this point,

:51:30. > :51:35.what are the questions presented to us? We have talked about the verdict

:51:36. > :51:39.and the 10% margin but there are now big questions. What is at the top of

:51:40. > :51:42.the list? It is a clear and decisive result, meaning we have avoided the

:51:43. > :51:48.political earthquake of Scotland separating off as an independent

:51:49. > :51:52.country but there are seismic shocks coming down to Westminster and some

:51:53. > :51:55.big questions. Firstly in Scotland. Scotland was promised more

:51:56. > :51:59.substantial powers for the Scottish Parliament if Scotland voted no.

:52:00. > :52:03.Alex Salmond came out to admit defeat and he said he expects the

:52:04. > :52:06.promises to be honoured in rapid course. The Prime Minister came out

:52:07. > :52:12.of Number 10 and set out a timetable for this. He said there would be a

:52:13. > :52:17.commission chaired by Lord Smith to talk about what the powers might

:52:18. > :52:21.be, a clear timetable leading to March, 2015, and we would then know

:52:22. > :52:24.what powers the Scottish Parliament would have. But he also said

:52:25. > :52:30.millions of voices of English voters must now be heard and they want a

:52:31. > :52:33.solution so that the constitution of the UK is not unbalanced if Scotland

:52:34. > :52:36.gets more powers and he seemed to commit to delivering that in the

:52:37. > :52:45.same timetable, which will be more difficult to do. Many of these

:52:46. > :52:49.issues will have to be answered in England, a place that has not had a

:52:50. > :52:57.constitutional debate in the way it has in Scotland. In UK politics,

:52:58. > :53:01.this has frankly bored most voters and politicians. Remember the

:53:02. > :53:07.referendum on the alternative vote system? It was hard to get anybody

:53:08. > :53:10.to vote. Excited Guardian readers got people making programmes at the

:53:11. > :53:15.BBC about written constitutions and changes to the voting system. Those

:53:16. > :53:19.people were bored. The Liberal Democrats and their agenda of

:53:20. > :53:23.constitutional change, they could never get people involved in it. But

:53:24. > :53:27.this goes to the centre of politics. Let's be clear what David Cameron

:53:28. > :53:32.has tried to do this morning. He has tried to put Labour on the spot. He

:53:33. > :53:35.has tried to say, I am the man standing up and my Tory party is

:53:36. > :53:40.standing up, he is saying, for the Englishman. He is basically saying

:53:41. > :53:44.that he will solve the English question and they will not. There is

:53:45. > :53:48.a battle between the Conservative Party and UKIP to be seen to be

:53:49. > :53:51.doing that. That politics will play out all the way through to the next

:53:52. > :53:56.general election. No doubt Scots will worry that they will get left

:53:57. > :53:59.behind as that is happening. The Prime Minister has promised that

:54:00. > :54:03.both of these things will be done at the same time, but whether it is

:54:04. > :54:08.budgetary matters, the voting rights of Scottish MPs, these agendas are

:54:09. > :54:11.not separate. They clash. There are problems. Sprinkle in Wales and

:54:12. > :54:17.Northern Ireland and we have an explosive mixture. We saw it in the

:54:18. > :54:22.studio, David Cameron and William Hague laying out how they would

:54:23. > :54:26.solve this with English votes for English MPs. We have had MPs sitting

:54:27. > :54:29.here and we have asked how they will come to an agreement and what

:54:30. > :54:34.consensus is there on the English question and they have not been able

:54:35. > :54:40.to answer. That is true. I am wondering at one point we get an

:54:41. > :54:47.answer that is at least credible and authentic from the Government. -- at

:54:48. > :54:52.what point. There has to be a debate at my word of caution would be that

:54:53. > :54:54.just as constitutional change in Scotland has preceded by consensus,

:54:55. > :54:57.so much of caution would be that just as constitutional change in

:54:58. > :55:02.Scotland has preceded by consensus, so. There are proposals on the

:55:03. > :55:07.table. While protecting the rights of Scottish MPs, they would enhance

:55:08. > :55:11.the ability of English MPs to have a say and I think that is a good

:55:12. > :55:15.starting point. But this debate has not been raging in England but it is

:55:16. > :55:21.an important thing as part of moving towards a more federal system in the

:55:22. > :55:27.UK, that we find ways to address this. My priority and I take this

:55:28. > :55:31.very personally is to make sure that we deliver in full with a radical

:55:32. > :55:34.programme of devolution for Scotland. That is the promise we

:55:35. > :55:39.have made in the referendum campaign and we have to keep the promise.

:55:40. > :55:44.Alex is right. We have a responsibility to deliver that and

:55:45. > :55:47.make sure that Scotland has a full place in the United Kingdom for

:55:48. > :55:55.centuries to come. We have to make sure we answer that question

:55:56. > :55:59.properly. And in a sentence, Alex? Implementing the vow for Scotland

:56:00. > :56:02.cannot be held up because of the issues in England. With the

:56:03. > :56:06.Midlothian question, they are trying to square the circle that nobody has

:56:07. > :56:14.squared in 40 years and I doubt they can do it before Christmas. Great to

:56:15. > :56:18.have Alex and Danny with us, and Sarah and nickel night. Jeremy, if

:56:19. > :56:21.you are watching with your team, thank you so much. Terrific

:56:22. > :56:29.contribution all night. John Curtice? Thank you. To all of your

:56:30. > :56:32.team for helping us with the data. Helping viewers understand what has

:56:33. > :56:38.been going on. It has been a remarkable night. The biggest

:56:39. > :56:42.democratic decision in the history of the United Kingdom. The Scots

:56:43. > :56:46.have rejected independence. They will stay within the United Kingdom.

:56:47. > :56:54.I will leave you with a few memorable scenes of a memorable

:56:55. > :56:56.night. Goodbye. It is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to

:56:57. > :57:45.take Scotland's future into Scotland's hands.

:57:46. > :58:18.The BBC's forecast now is that Scotland has voted no to

:58:19. > :58:28.independence. No, 194,000 638 -- 194,638. Scotland has by majority

:58:29. > :58:31.decided not at this stage to become an independent country. I accent

:58:32. > :58:53.that verdict of the people. People who are disengaged in

:58:54. > :59:04.politics have turned out in large numbers.

:59:05. > :59:11.Just as the people of Scotland will have more power over their affairs,

:59:12. > :59:13.so it follows that the people of England, Wales and Northern Ireland

:59:14. > :59:14.must have a bigger say that