:00:00. > :00:08.Sportsday at 10:45pm. Now on BBC News, another chance to
:00:09. > :00:23.see Scotland Decides with Sarah Smith.
:00:24. > :00:27.Two weeks until referendum day and the battle for traditional
:00:28. > :00:33.Ed Miliband hits the campaign trail in Glasgow urging
:00:34. > :00:50.If you want social justice, Labour values, I urge people to vote no.
:00:51. > :00:59.We get a flavour of the referendum debate in London
:01:00. > :01:12.Thousands of campaign leaflets through voters letterboxes,
:01:13. > :01:19.It's two weeks exactly until the referendum vote and both
:01:20. > :01:24.sides are trying to win over undecided traditional Labour voters,
:01:25. > :01:29.Ed Miliband says Scots should vote No to independence and vote for
:01:30. > :01:32.Labour at the next General Election if they want a more equal Scotland.
:01:33. > :01:35.But the SNP leader, Alex Salmond, claims Labour supporters
:01:36. > :01:38.across Scotland are "turning their back on Westminster".
:01:39. > :01:41.Here's our Scotland Political Editor, Brian Taylor.
:01:42. > :01:53.Centre stage, the key player is mobbed in a search for selfies.
:01:54. > :02:03.In the wings, noises from better together at the best.
:02:04. > :02:12.Ed Miliband on the Scottish campaign trail.
:02:13. > :02:15.Today's topic, social justice, how to spread wealth.
:02:16. > :02:22.He challenges claims that that is best achieved through independence.
:02:23. > :02:40.They are not matching us on the 50p tax rate.
:02:41. > :02:46.They will continue Tory policies if they have independence.
:02:47. > :02:48.If you want social justice, vote No.
:02:49. > :02:49.You can't guarantee a Labour government.
:02:50. > :02:54.Scotland has voted Labour for decades and repeatedly received
:02:55. > :03:05.We will have a Labour government in my view in May 2015.
:03:06. > :03:07.But the people in Scotland cannot will that.
:03:08. > :03:17.They vote but get a Conservative government.
:03:18. > :03:25.We have to look at the alternative. It is a con from the SNP to say
:03:26. > :03:30.somehow if you vote yes, you will get rid of Tory values. If you want
:03:31. > :03:35.social justice, if you want Labour values, I strongly urge people to
:03:36. > :03:36.vote No and I can assure people I am planning for a Labour government
:03:37. > :03:41.across the UK. The SNP leaders say they oppose
:03:42. > :03:45.the scrapping of the 50p tax rate. They questioned
:03:46. > :03:47.the energy price freeze saying they Day back the living wage and
:03:48. > :04:00.corporation tax cuts? We would do that
:04:01. > :04:02.because it will create more jobs It will mean
:04:03. > :04:16.the economy will grow faster. It is about the right
:04:17. > :04:22.of Scotland to have a government That is why
:04:23. > :04:30.so many people who normally vote Today, Alex Salmond and
:04:31. > :04:33.Nicola Sturgeon were celebrating ten They say the next decade is
:04:34. > :04:38.focused firmly on Scotland. Well, during his walkabout in
:04:39. > :04:41.Glasgow city centre today the First Minister insisted he would not
:04:42. > :04:44.resign in the event of a No vote. Mr Salmond told reporters he will
:04:45. > :04:45.not hand over to Deputy First Minister,
:04:46. > :04:47.Nicola Sturgeon, saying his mandate is to lead Scotland until
:04:48. > :04:54.the next Scottish election in 2016. Let's have a quick reminder
:04:55. > :04:56.of Labour's recent dominance The party won the largest share
:04:57. > :05:02.of the vote in every General Election since the 1960s `
:05:03. > :05:05.it still holds 41 of 59 Scottish Labour was the largest party
:05:06. > :05:10.in the first two terms of the Scottish Parliament, ruling
:05:11. > :05:13.in coalition administrations, but It now has 37 of the 129 Holyrood
:05:14. > :05:21.seats. Recent polls have shown support for
:05:22. > :05:23.independence growing among Labour voters ` some 30% said they would
:05:24. > :05:27.vote Yes in a recent YouGov poll. That's up from 18% at the start
:05:28. > :05:36.of August. With me now is the former
:05:37. > :05:38.Special Adviser to Also here is Jeane Freeman,
:05:39. > :05:41.from Women for Independence. She's a former adviser to
:05:42. > :05:48.Jack McConnell. Ed Miliband said that people should
:05:49. > :05:52.vote No because is on its way and that will bring genuine social
:05:53. > :05:55.justice. He cannot guarantee there will be
:05:56. > :05:58.a Labour government in 2015. You can understand why Scottish
:05:59. > :06:03.voters would be sceptical. You can't guarantee that any
:06:04. > :06:10.particular person will be in number ten, but that looks good
:06:11. > :06:17.for him at the moment. The wind seems to be in
:06:18. > :06:20.Ed Miliband's sales. Scots have lots of experience
:06:21. > :06:23.of voting Labour but getting The SNP says that voting
:06:24. > :06:39.for independence. I don't think people ever thought
:06:40. > :06:42.that nationalism was preferable to the social values of the
:06:43. > :06:44.Labour Party. If you are in the Labour Party
:06:45. > :06:53.you don't think that social Ed Miliband was attacking the SNP's
:06:54. > :06:59.track record on social justice, saying it would not be
:07:00. > :07:01.a socially just government that came Ed Miliband wants to be prime
:07:02. > :07:12.minister and that is set fair enough ambition for him
:07:13. > :07:14.to have. But he is conflating the idea of a political debate
:07:15. > :07:17.between the Labour Party and the SNP It is not about Alex Salmond or
:07:18. > :07:21.Ed Miliband, it is about the people of Scotland deciding
:07:22. > :07:24.if they believe that the best decisions about Scotland are made
:07:25. > :07:32.by people who live and work here. The parties political backwards
:07:33. > :07:36.and forwards is neither here nor there because the first vote that
:07:37. > :07:39.people will have to make is whether The debate
:07:40. > :07:46.about policies comes after that. We will see what Labour
:07:47. > :07:48.and the others will offer He was attacking the Conservatives
:07:49. > :07:53.quite strongly today, gearing up for a general election
:07:54. > :08:06.in 2015 in the UK. Has it been a mistake to be
:08:07. > :08:09.campaigning with the Conservatives and being accused of being
:08:10. > :08:12.in bed with the Tories of the time? I think it is unfortunate to be
:08:13. > :08:15.accused of being I don't think there was anything
:08:16. > :08:18.wrong with standing beside people I can understand why Jean said what
:08:19. > :08:24.she did, but I think it is against an argument between Labour
:08:25. > :08:31.values or nationalism. There has been a history in this
:08:32. > :08:34.country of the nationalists opposing When Ed Miliband talks
:08:35. > :08:41.about the minimum wage, the nationalists in the House
:08:42. > :08:55.of Commons didn't vote for it. When she was putting progressive
:08:56. > :08:57.policies through the Parliament, They didn't very often think
:08:58. > :09:00.it was more important to make this Parliament work
:09:01. > :09:11.than try to be separate. Is there a difference between the
:09:12. > :09:15.Labour Party values and SNP values? There is a difference between Labour
:09:16. > :09:23.Party values and the wider independence campaign. Labour is
:09:24. > :09:29.still committed to welfare cuts as the Conservatives are in Scotland.
:09:30. > :09:37.We cannot reduce this referendum debate as a spat between Labour and
:09:38. > :09:42.the SNP. Some people, like myself, have never been involved in any
:09:43. > :09:47.activity and we do not do people are serviced by reducing it to political
:09:48. > :09:54.personalities or a debate between parties. They can have that in 2016.
:09:55. > :09:58.The most important choice is weather people believe the right people to
:09:59. > :10:04.make decisions are the people living and working in Scotland. That is my
:10:05. > :10:08.belief and growing numbers of Labour supporters are coming to that. Does
:10:09. > :10:16.it come down to traditional Labour photos? Are we turning to the yes
:10:17. > :10:21.side? If the SNP or nationalists are going to win, they will have to get
:10:22. > :10:28.people who voted Labour or Conservative in the past, because at
:10:29. > :10:35.the 2011 election, the SNP only 125% of the Scottish vote. `` only won
:10:36. > :10:44.25%. The SNP need folks from somewhere. Thank you both very much.
:10:45. > :10:48.Goldman Sachs says independence could have severe consequences in
:10:49. > :10:56.the short`term for the Scottish economy and rest of the UK, that the
:10:57. > :11:01.uncertainty I get bored could cause a run `` that the uncertainty voting
:11:02. > :11:05.for years could cause a run on some banks. But they say there is no
:11:06. > :11:11.reason why an independent Scotland could not prosper in the long run.
:11:12. > :11:15.The Canadian prime ministers has given his support for Scotland
:11:16. > :11:27.remaining part of the UK, seeing greater global interests would not
:11:28. > :11:31.be served by a yes vote, but he says it stays with the Scottish people.
:11:32. > :11:37.How would London be affected by a yes vote?
:11:38. > :11:42.There is a corner of the capital that is forever Scottish London
:11:43. > :11:45.Scottish. But across town, there seems to be an appetite for things
:11:46. > :11:51.north of the border, you do not need to look far in London for a Scottish
:11:52. > :11:58.influence and this woman has made the capital for home, with a
:11:59. > :12:02.business went to her roots. She believes in independence. I do not
:12:03. > :12:08.think there is enough information about how I could buy from Scotland.
:12:09. > :12:14.Will there be imported taxation, different BET? I will need more
:12:15. > :12:20.information. Back at the rugby, London Scottish gets beaten by their
:12:21. > :12:25.rivals north of the border with some strong opinions. I think it is to do
:12:26. > :12:31.with Westminster and probably London in general, where a lot of people
:12:32. > :12:36.feel there is a lot of greed, arrogance and nothing to do with the
:12:37. > :12:40.rest of England, a lot of the rest of England would not mind being
:12:41. > :12:46.independent from London. What we are doing in London could be done in
:12:47. > :12:51.Scotland. So I am thinking to myself why am I having to work away from
:12:52. > :12:59.home in London and this could be done in Edinburgh? Nearer where I
:13:00. > :13:04.want to live. Opinions are split in London, like in Scotland, the
:13:05. > :13:10.referendum watched by the political classes. It could affect London. If
:13:11. > :13:15.the Scots fought to stay in the UK, and get extra tax raising powers,
:13:16. > :13:22.you could imagine lots of London politicians asking for similar. If
:13:23. > :13:26.the vote to go, that would leave Britain as potentially more right
:13:27. > :13:30.leaning and conservative, the remainder of Britain, whereas London
:13:31. > :13:36.has tilted left, creating a bigger gap between London and UK politics.
:13:37. > :13:41.With two weeks left, still all to play for, with polls suggesting the
:13:42. > :13:46.divide is shrinking. Scots in London will be watching closely.
:13:47. > :13:52.Hundreds of thousands of election leaflets have been put through
:13:53. > :13:58.letter boxes across Scotland, but do voters consider the points put
:13:59. > :14:02.forward or is it another barrage of claim and counterclaim and send it
:14:03. > :14:07.straight to the recycling? Before the Internet, leaflets were
:14:08. > :14:11.important, but what about now? These may have appeared through your
:14:12. > :14:17.letterbox, campaign leaflets, designed to give the facts to help
:14:18. > :14:22.you make up your mind, but there are facts according to yes, and fight
:14:23. > :14:29.according to better together. So I have come to this broad in urban to
:14:30. > :14:39.see if I can find anyone who could unscramble these facts. Have you had
:14:40. > :14:41.these? Yes, both bits of literature. What did you think? I
:14:42. > :14:45.find it confusing, I do not know where I stand. I do not know who is
:14:46. > :14:53.telling the truth. The information Alex Salmond is giving are not
:14:54. > :14:59.factual as far as I am concerned. They are presenting them as
:15:00. > :15:04.definite. But so do the other side. Yes, why fix something that is not
:15:05. > :15:10.broken? Do you think these facts are correct? I do not think they are. I
:15:11. > :15:14.do not believe anything the yes campaign says. So it does not
:15:15. > :15:25.matter, it will not change your mind? No, I am still voting yes. It
:15:26. > :15:30.would be good to see something not produced by either campaign. Most
:15:31. > :15:35.people did not have recycling bins in 1979, when these leaflets were
:15:36. > :15:40.put in letterbox is ahead of the referendum about Scotland having its
:15:41. > :15:45.own assembly. Leaflets are an established form of political
:15:46. > :15:52.campaigning, but how have they changed? If politicians were accused
:15:53. > :15:57.today of scaremongering, look at this, warning a referendum is
:15:58. > :16:03.dangerous. And another one, the menace of separation. And of
:16:04. > :16:06.Scotland says no, we will never be taken seriously again, Scotland will
:16:07. > :16:12.be universally ridiculed, laughing stock. Since the invention of the
:16:13. > :16:19.printing press, leaflets have been used to get political messages
:16:20. > :16:25.across, but have they lost their relevance since the development of
:16:26. > :16:29.social media? This was done by my father's company. In 1979,
:16:30. > :16:35.multicoloured printing was considered extravagant. This one,
:16:36. > :16:41.that would have been a standard layout for the technology of the
:16:42. > :16:47.time. We're as the other one, with the fill colour images, the time and
:16:48. > :16:51.cost involved at that point in time would have been astronomical. So are
:16:52. > :16:59.much more expensive and bigger printing budget? Definitely. And it
:17:00. > :17:04.may have paid off, Scotland did not get its assembly. But leaflets are
:17:05. > :17:10.cheap to run off Beasley, which is lucky if they end up the recycling
:17:11. > :17:19.bin. Have you made up your mind? Not as yet. Maybe you should be reading
:17:20. > :17:24.these? Maybe I should. Ultimately, two`day's points are similar to
:17:25. > :17:29.those on the 1979 leaflets and history has not told us whose fights
:17:30. > :17:34.are more factual than the others. Fiona Walker reporting. The latest
:17:35. > :17:41.on the Scottish referendum on BBC News. With the winter to list season
:17:42. > :17:46.closer, Jane Hill will be live in Aviemore to find out what impact
:17:47. > :17:49.independence could have there. Get the latest online, including a
:17:50. > :18:02.personal reflection on how Scotland has changed from Alan Little. That
:18:03. > :18:11.is at this website. And tomorrow afternoon, live from Shetland, The
:18:12. > :18:18.Film Review. James Cook will be here tomorrow with a round`up, and I will
:18:19. > :18:33.be back at 7:30pm and 9:30pm on Monday evening. Until then, goodbye.
:18:34. > :18:34.It is nearly time for the News at ten, but at 10:30