15/09/2014

Download Subtitles

Transcript

:00:00. > :00:24.Scotland decides now, Referendum Today with Sarah Smith.

:00:25. > :00:31.Tonight, two leaders and two rival visions for the future of Scotland

:00:32. > :00:34.just days before voters decide. The Prime Minister says he wants

:00:35. > :00:41.Scotland to stay in the union with his head, heart and soul.

:00:42. > :00:45.The family is not a compromise or a second best. It is a magical

:00:46. > :00:53.identity that makes us more together than we can ever be apart. So please

:00:54. > :00:57.do not break this family apart. Alex Salmond says Thursday will be a

:00:58. > :01:01.once in a lifetime opportunity for Scotland as he stands alongside

:01:02. > :01:05.prominent business bankers. It's very substantial groups in

:01:06. > :01:08.Scottish business who say there is an opportunity from an independent

:01:09. > :01:15.Scotland, to create a prosperous economy but also a just society.

:01:16. > :01:21.Good evening from Glasgow. With just three days of campaigning to two

:01:22. > :01:25.before Thursday's referendum, both sides have intensified their battle

:01:26. > :01:28.to win votes. David Cameron has made an impassioned plea to voters to

:01:29. > :01:34.save the union and reject independence. The First Minister,

:01:35. > :01:37.Alex Salmond, accused his opponents of scaremongering and insisted a yes

:01:38. > :01:41.vote would be good for the economy. We'll discuss the day's events and

:01:42. > :01:44.what the final few days of the campaign might hold with political

:01:45. > :01:47.bloggers. Let's hear what both sides have been saying today. An appeal

:01:48. > :01:54.for voters from the Prime Minister who was speaking in Aberdeen.

:01:55. > :01:59.As you stand in the stillness of the polling booth, I hope you have asked

:02:00. > :02:05.yourself this, will my family and I truly will better off by going it

:02:06. > :02:09.alone? Will we really be more safe and secure? Do I really want to turn

:02:10. > :02:13.my back on the rest of Britain and why is it that so many people across

:02:14. > :02:19.the world are asking why would Scotland want to do that? Why?

:02:20. > :02:21.And if you don't know the answer to these questions, then please vote

:02:22. > :02:26.no. At the end of the day, all the

:02:27. > :02:30.arguments of this campaign can be reduced to a single fact ` we are

:02:31. > :02:41.better together. As you reach your final decision,

:02:42. > :02:50.please, please don't let anyone tell you you can't be a proud Scot and a

:02:51. > :03:05.proud Brit. APPLAUSE

:03:06. > :03:12.Please, don't lose faith in what this country is and what we can be.

:03:13. > :03:16.Don't forget what a great United Kingdom you are a part of, don't

:03:17. > :03:21.turn your backs on what is the best family in the nations in the world

:03:22. > :03:27.and the best hope for your family in this world. So please, from all of

:03:28. > :03:29.us, vote to stick together, vote to stay, vote to save our United

:03:30. > :03:35.Kingdom. Thank you.

:03:36. > :03:38.That was David Cameron in Aberdeen. Speaking in Edinburgh, Alex Salmond

:03:39. > :03:42.insisted there were plenty of companies who believed the yes vote

:03:43. > :03:45.would bolster Scotland's economy despite warnings to the contrary

:03:46. > :03:48.from banks and supermarkets. He spoke to the BBC's James Cook and a

:03:49. > :03:53.warning this clip contains flash photography.

:03:54. > :03:57.The fastest growing group in business has been Business for

:03:58. > :04:00.Scotland, supporting independence. We are demonstrating today, with

:04:01. > :04:04.some of the most serious business people in Scotland, men and women

:04:05. > :04:14.who're creating tens and thousands of jobs and careers, that there's

:04:15. > :04:21.very substantial groups of Scottish business, looking for a prosperous

:04:22. > :04:25.economy. There are negative things being said about Scotland. It was a

:04:26. > :04:31.nonsense to argue that the land of Adam Smith was incapable of grabbing

:04:32. > :04:34.our own finances and the demonstration from the Scottish job

:04:35. > :04:39.creators is people with plenty of confidence. You are almost

:04:40. > :04:43.suggesting that big oil, big businesses, big supermarkets,

:04:44. > :04:47.somehow don't have a mind of Nairn own `` their own, suggesting they

:04:48. > :04:50.have serious concerns about what an independent Scotland would look

:04:51. > :05:01.like, not least in terms of currency? I'd never suggest all big

:05:02. > :05:04.supermarkets did that. Many, Tesco, Aldi and others said they are never

:05:05. > :05:09.going to get involved in a political debate. One or two were gulled into

:05:10. > :05:16.the Prime Minister's scaremongering campaign. But I think these Scottish

:05:17. > :05:21.businesses were substantially confident. They see the future as

:05:22. > :05:24.creating a more prosperous economy but also see the importance of

:05:25. > :05:30.holding society together and creating a more just society.

:05:31. > :05:34.With just a few days left, what are the polls suggesting? Throughout

:05:35. > :05:38.the,pain, we have been following the poll of polls calculated by the what

:05:39. > :05:42.Scotland thinks website. It's based on half a dozen surveys and

:05:43. > :05:48.suggestses the No Campaign is on 51% and the Yes Campaign on 49%.

:05:49. > :05:52.With me now in the studio are two bloggers from both sides of the

:05:53. > :05:55.debate. Duncan is a Labour activist and a No supporter and Andrew will

:05:56. > :05:59.be voting yes. Thank you for coming in. Duncan, that was a very

:06:00. > :06:03.passionate plea we heard from the Prime Minister this afternoon and he

:06:04. > :06:07.set out a positive vision for what the UK could be if some other better

:06:08. > :06:14.together supporters had been doing that earlier, the polls might not be

:06:15. > :06:17.as tight? A lot of people have been saying positive things, but

:06:18. > :06:21.unfortunately, we tend to get mired down, especially when it's been

:06:22. > :06:25.three years of this debate. I think what we have seen recently is a

:06:26. > :06:30.refresher, a lot of people have rejoined the campaign or come into

:06:31. > :06:33.the campaign and we have seen some of the things revisited and some

:06:34. > :06:36.important points about the positive aspects of the UK, about how we get

:06:37. > :06:41.the strength of the UK with the powers of the Scottish Parliament

:06:42. > :06:44.and these have v come back into the debate and that's welcome. A

:06:45. > :06:47.slightly new message from Alex Salmond. He's saying it's a once in

:06:48. > :06:51.a lifetime opportunity to vote for independence. Better together have

:06:52. > :06:54.been saying the referendum is for life, don't vote yes because you

:06:55. > :06:57.want to give the Tories a kicking. Alex Salmond is worried people are

:06:58. > :07:01.tempted by the devolution offer and they want to give that a try for a

:07:02. > :07:05.few years, he's telling them, this is your one chance to vote for

:07:06. > :07:08.independence? I don't accept that interpretation of why he's

:07:09. > :07:12.responding in this way. It's strange to hear David Cameron talking about

:07:13. > :07:16.saying it's for ever as if Scots don't know it's for ever, as if we

:07:17. > :07:22.haven't been paying attention. There are lots of blow`ins to the debate

:07:23. > :07:24.after the YouGov poll but I don't think they have been following this

:07:25. > :07:29.kind of debate and it's challenging for better together that many Scots

:07:30. > :07:35.have already reached the point where they are making up their mind and

:07:36. > :07:42.giving a very serious look at things. Scots understand the risks

:07:43. > :07:47.and opportunities and I find it odd David Cameron's preaching to us as

:07:48. > :07:51.if we haven't already add this `` had this discussion. Alex Salmond

:07:52. > :07:53.was positioned with some yes supporting business leaders today

:07:54. > :07:57.and I think that was by accident this close to the vote. We have had

:07:58. > :08:00.warnings from big businesses about why independent Scotland's economy

:08:01. > :08:03.might be at risk. He's trying to shore that up by positioning himself

:08:04. > :08:08.with Business Today. He must be worried? He's reflecting the fact

:08:09. > :08:12.that business is not a monolithic thing. Small and medium sized

:08:13. > :08:16.businesses and multinationals which operate in Scotland and operate in

:08:17. > :08:19.the UK and certainly I know folk that work in business and they have

:08:20. > :08:22.a range of different perspectives. There are risks and opportunities on

:08:23. > :08:24.independence, just as there are risks and tuns with staying in the

:08:25. > :08:36.union. I don't Scots take this devolution

:08:37. > :08:39.offer seriously. It has suddenly materialised from the ether and

:08:40. > :08:43.nobody is taking it seriously. Let's stick with business. There were a

:08:44. > :08:48.lot of warnings from big banks and other companies about the dangers of

:08:49. > :08:51.independence. Is there a danger this might backfire? Scots don't like

:08:52. > :08:54.being told what to do and if they think big business is ganging up and

:08:55. > :08:57.telling them you cannot be independent then they might just

:08:58. > :09:04.vote for it. That's a story that the SNP and the yes campaign have been

:09:05. > :09:07.putting across. When you look at standard life under Royal Bank Of

:09:08. > :09:11.Scotland where we keep our savings, you have Asda and sell the bulk ``

:09:12. > :09:15.and other scoop markets where we do our shop. The ease the people

:09:16. > :09:20.involved in every aspect of our lives and the for all businesses, I

:09:21. > :09:27.run a small business, the reality is that if you introduce different

:09:28. > :09:31.regulation or currency risk, or any sort of export where it has

:09:32. > :09:36.previously been the home market, you introduce additional costs. It is

:09:37. > :09:42.simply honesty from these supermarkets to say distribution

:09:43. > :09:46.around Scotland is currently at a higher cost than distribution in the

:09:47. > :09:50.rest of the UK and that will be reflected in prices if we do vote

:09:51. > :09:54.for separation. Not all of the supermarkets say that, we should

:09:55. > :09:58.point out. Thanks for coming in to talk to was. For the half million

:09:59. > :10:04.pounds has been donated to the two rival campaigns in the referendum

:10:05. > :10:06.since last November. `` four and a half. Nor has been spent on this

:10:07. > :10:14.campaign and any other in Scotland's history. `` more. Over

:10:15. > :10:18.the last year, those with big money have been backing both sides of the

:10:19. > :10:22.debate. The total figure for political campaigning in Scotland

:10:23. > :10:26.has hit a record high. Today's figures show the total amounts given

:10:27. > :10:31.to the campaign organisations. Yes groups have received more than ?1.8

:10:32. > :10:34.million, and no campaigners have been given nearly two and no

:10:35. > :10:37.campaigners have been given nearly two and three quarters million

:10:38. > :10:40.pounds. Those figures don't even include donations to political

:10:41. > :10:44.parties. That dwarfs the spending the 2010 general election, where

:10:45. > :10:50.just over ?3 million were spent in total in Scotland. The question is,

:10:51. > :10:55.what is all the cash being spent on? Some of it of course goes on staff

:10:56. > :11:00.and offices, but the biggest chunk has gone directly on trying to win

:11:01. > :11:05.your vote. The billboard company prime site, who had been sticking up

:11:06. > :11:09.posters for both campaigns say the total amount of spending on outlaw

:11:10. > :11:14.advertising is around one and a half million pounds, with lots of that

:11:15. > :11:17.coming to them. We've never seen such high occupancy levels on

:11:18. > :11:23.billboards over the last 12 months, and this has had a huge impact on

:11:24. > :11:26.us. ?1.5 million is a lot of money to be spending, how much does it

:11:27. > :11:32.cost to put up one individual advert? We have backlit illuminated

:11:33. > :11:36.billboards, and they would be about ?1500 for two weeks, right up to

:11:37. > :11:42.digital screens which could, depending on the site, anywhere

:11:43. > :11:47.between ?1500 and up to ?10,000 again for a two`week period. And

:11:48. > :11:52.it's not just posters that have been eating up the campaign budgets. Over

:11:53. > :11:57.the last couple of months we've been inundated by material from the yes

:11:58. > :12:03.and the no campaigns. But this sort of publication doesn't come cheap.

:12:04. > :12:07.Is it really worth it? Will the referendum result effectively be

:12:08. > :12:10.decided by which campaign has spent the most money? Everything is

:12:11. > :12:15.important in this campaign. We realise that is very close and so

:12:16. > :12:17.billboards, posters, door`to`door canvassing, the amount of stock we

:12:18. > :12:22.are getting throughout letterboxes right now is quite incredible but it

:12:23. > :12:26.does look like with social media for example it is less important how

:12:27. > :12:29.much money you have and more important about how you get that

:12:30. > :12:34.message out and how many other people can re`tweet that message.

:12:35. > :12:37.Although spending has been hugely significant in this campaign, in a

:12:38. > :12:45.digital age, influencing voters is no longer just a straightforward

:12:46. > :12:50.matter of flashing the most cash. Stay with BBC News the latest on the

:12:51. > :12:53.Scottish referendum. Tomorrow, Christian Fraser will be live in

:12:54. > :12:58.Aberdeenshire, finding out about the impact of the referendum result on

:12:59. > :13:00.the fishing industry. You can get the latest online including our

:13:01. > :13:04.correspondent Glenn Campbell looking at Scotland's future in Europe if

:13:05. > :13:11.there is a yes vote at Scotland's future in Europe if there is a

:13:12. > :13:14.that's all from a fortnight. I will be back again tomorrow night. Until

:13:15. > :13:26.then, goodbye. The headlines this evening on BBC

:13:27. > :13:29.News. Alex Salmond tells business leaders that independence would

:13:30. > :13:32.bring Scotland a prosperous economy but in a speech in Aberdeen, the

:13:33. > :13:36.Prime Minister warns that a Scottish exit would be forever. The Foreign

:13:37. > :13:39.Secretary Philip Hammond says Britain will play a leading role in

:13:40. > :13:42.tackling Islamic State terrorists.