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:00:28. > :00:31.A groundbreaking political deal on Girdwood has been made public,

:00:31. > :00:34.ending years of stalemate in North Belfast. There has always been a

:00:34. > :00:42.vision for Girdwood to be a shared site with a variety of different

:00:42. > :00:46.uses on it. What we now have is an greed plan in the way forward in

:00:46. > :00:49.that regard. This site is a great opportunity for regeneration.

:00:49. > :00:54.This's going to happen. There is all party agreement from North

:00:54. > :00:57.Belfast. A vast piece of land that has been left untouched for the

:00:58. > :01:03.past six years is to be transformed into a world-class community

:01:03. > :01:09.development of business, culture and tourism. 27 acres of shared

:01:09. > :01:13.space in an area devastated by some of the worse sectarian violence of

:01:13. > :01:17.the Troubles. The Girdwood deal has been heralded as a political rye

:01:17. > :01:21.triumph here. Evidence that the main parties in government have

:01:21. > :01:27.finally left sectarian politics in the past and are now committed to

:01:27. > :01:31.working together towards a shared future. That shared future does not

:01:31. > :01:35.include shared housing. Homes built for Catholics and Protestants here

:01:35. > :01:40.will be more than a quarter of a mile apart, on opposite ends of the

:01:40. > :01:43.site. What's happening here has nothing to do with bringing

:01:43. > :01:47.Protestants and Roman Catholics together. It an exercise where they

:01:47. > :01:50.can door knock and the DUP can say to their people, we got house there

:01:50. > :01:55.is. Sinn Fein can say, we got houses there. Housing has always

:01:55. > :02:00.been the deal breaker on this site. So why has agreement been reached

:02:00. > :02:04.now? The answer is money. The chance of �10 million European

:02:04. > :02:08.grant for Girdwood is about to run out. There has been pressure to

:02:08. > :02:13.come up with a deal ahead of the deadline. Tonight, we can reveal

:02:13. > :02:18.that the Northern Ireland Housing Executive, the body set up 41 years

:02:18. > :02:22.ago, to ensure the fair allocation of houses here, has been completely

:02:22. > :02:28.frozen out of the Girdwood deal. The housing executive has been one

:02:28. > :02:35.of the great success stories of the last 40 years. Not least because it

:02:35. > :02:39.embedded in our politics and public policy that housing needs informed

:02:39. > :02:45.housing allocation. If that principle, or if that approach is

:02:45. > :02:49.compromised, that should send out alarm bells. A former Chairman of

:02:49. > :02:53.the Housing Executive say it is must be protected from political

:02:53. > :02:59.interference. I have been disappointed by the lack of concern

:02:59. > :03:03.there appears to be on the part of some political parties in defending

:03:03. > :03:10.an organisation and a model which has been seen to work well in

:03:10. > :03:13.Northern Ireland since its establishment in 1971. It's

:03:13. > :03:19.absolutely fundamental to there being confidence in the delivery of

:03:19. > :03:23.social housing in Northern Ireland that it should be based on need

:03:23. > :03:26.rather than on some arcane territorial dispute. Yesterday,

:03:26. > :03:30.politicians didn't want to talk about the number of houses they

:03:30. > :03:34.have planned for the site. We can reveal that it falls far short of

:03:34. > :03:38.the numbers recommended for Catholics in the area by the

:03:38. > :03:43.Housing Executive, the decision raises difficult questions for

:03:43. > :03:46.nationalist politician in the area, in particular Sinn Fein. I find it

:03:46. > :03:50.inexplicable this a party like Sinn Fein, which talks about civil

:03:50. > :03:54.rights and talk abouts equality and so on, is lying down on one of the

:03:54. > :03:58.very basic issues that started the whole civil rights movement, which

:03:58. > :04:02.was fair housing. The fact that Sinn Fein are agreing to a lot less

:04:02. > :04:12.than what is needed, it is no not in their interest to do that,

:04:12. > :04:14.

:04:14. > :04:19.indicates to me there is some deal The vast Girdwood site, on one of

:04:19. > :04:23.the most bitterly contested peace lines in North Belfast. Six years

:04:23. > :04:28.ago, the Ministry of Defence handed the former army barracks to the DSD,

:04:28. > :04:32.the Department for Social Development, hoping a new use for

:04:32. > :04:36.the land would transform an area plighted by sectarian conflict and

:04:36. > :04:42.poverty. The plan has always been that the site would generate

:04:42. > :04:46.millions of pounds and much-needed jobs for the area. We thought, this

:04:46. > :04:50.is going to be a state-of-the-art development which will lift the

:04:50. > :04:56.spirits and hopes of all the people of that part of the city. That was

:04:56. > :05:02.the vision which lay behind. This we had seen what had happened down

:05:02. > :05:05.by the Lagganside, the development changed that whole part of the city.

:05:05. > :05:09.The Titanic quarter was being talked about. That was going to be

:05:09. > :05:12.a transformtive development on the other side of the river. As part of

:05:12. > :05:17.its shareded future initiative, the Stormont Executive insisted there

:05:17. > :05:22.would be no funding for the scheme without agreement from both

:05:22. > :05:26.communities. It would have to be a development as characterised as

:05:26. > :05:30.being shared space, neutral space and people from both parties of the

:05:30. > :05:36.community could buy into it. It would not be owned by one part of

:05:36. > :05:40.the community to the exclusion of the other part of the community.

:05:40. > :05:42.What prevented agreement for the last six years has been the issue

:05:42. > :05:47.of housing. Catholics and Protestants in the area have

:05:47. > :05:51.completely different housing needs. On the one side is a growing

:05:51. > :05:54.Catholic community, in chronic need of new housing, but with little

:05:54. > :06:00.available land to build on. On the other side, a declining Protestant

:06:00. > :06:06.community that it says it is being left to decay and fears being

:06:06. > :06:10.overrun on any site dominated by Catholics. Added to the mix,

:06:10. > :06:13.decades of sectarian conflict in an area which has more interfaces than

:06:14. > :06:18.anywhere else in Northern Ireland. It's not quite as easy as saying,

:06:19. > :06:23.there is an empty bit of land, let's build houses there. There are

:06:24. > :06:28.security issues, there are safety issues. There are strong senses of

:06:28. > :06:33.allegiance to territory and to place. That is under pinned very

:06:33. > :06:39.much by numerous security barriers, peace calls across the city which

:06:39. > :06:44.make any form of housing, build, new build housing very difficult to

:06:44. > :06:49.implement without, not only affecting the political geography,

:06:49. > :06:52.but also the sectarian go geography. Sinn Fein is closing the gap on the

:06:52. > :06:58.DUP majority in this constituency. There are fears that those in

:06:58. > :07:01.desperate need of housing have been sacrificed in the battle for

:07:01. > :07:06.political votes The Protestant population has been leaving North

:07:06. > :07:11.Belfast for 30 years. The real issue is the constituency and the

:07:11. > :07:14.votes. With the fact that they will not build houses for Catholics,

:07:14. > :07:19.still the nationalist vote has increased. The nationalist

:07:19. > :07:24.representation has increased. The fear of the unionist is that North

:07:24. > :07:28.Belfast will become a Sinn Fein constituency. According to Housing

:07:28. > :07:34.Executive figures, the clear majority of those who need to be

:07:34. > :07:39.rehoused as a matter of urgent si of Belfast are from the nationalist.

:07:39. > :07:43.Among them 60 young families. Connor and Elaine Matthews and

:07:43. > :07:48.their children, all under ten, are one such family. They live in a two

:07:48. > :07:54.up, two down house in the New Lodge have been on the waiting list for

:07:54. > :07:59.two years. This is through into the kitchen? Yes. Not much space?

:07:59. > :08:03.room at all. You have this tiny space at the back. Where do the

:08:03. > :08:08.chin children play? They play in their room or the living room.

:08:09. > :08:13.There is no other space for them to play. Shall we look at the

:08:13. > :08:16.bedrooms? There is little prospect of the family being rehoused soon.

:08:16. > :08:23.The house has single glaze tkwhraizing -- glazing and there

:08:23. > :08:27.are signs of damp. In this first bedroom this is you and your

:08:27. > :08:31.husband and Jennifer sleep. There is barely enough room to walk in

:08:31. > :08:35.past this cot. There is not. Jennifer is ready to go into the

:08:35. > :08:42.other room with the girls. Three girls in there? Yes. Why they need

:08:42. > :08:47.a bigger house, in North Belfast 350 people are now living in hostel

:08:47. > :08:51.accommodation, the majority in nation nags areas, while they wait

:08:51. > :08:57.for a home of their own. James and his three-year-old twinnes had been

:08:57. > :09:01.a hostel for almost two years. children were like nine months,

:09:01. > :09:07.touching a year, so they were. When I went down to the Housing

:09:07. > :09:12.Executive I said, we are on one couch. First I was in my brother's

:09:12. > :09:21.house then we went to my mum's house. My mum had two bedrooms.

:09:21. > :09:24.With the twins under a year, James assumed a host el -- hostle would

:09:24. > :09:28.be a temporary arrangement. I was scared when I first came. I was

:09:28. > :09:33.scared for the children. I really was. I didn't know who was going to

:09:34. > :09:38.be around me. Maybe drug takers or alcohol people or, you know... I

:09:38. > :09:43.didn't know what was going to be the score, like, when I went in

:09:43. > :09:48.there. It was really frightening at first. I wasn't coming Ouattara my

:09:48. > :09:52.front door just in case. After a while I noticed that people were OK.

:09:52. > :09:58.In recent weeks, James has been allocated a home in a nearby

:09:58. > :10:02.nationalist area. It will be more freedom, more space, yes. It's

:10:02. > :10:06.fantastic. It really is. I was overjoyed when I got the letter

:10:06. > :10:11.through, the offer through for the house. It was my last offer.I

:10:11. > :10:15.looked at it and went, brilliant, absolutely fantastic. He is looking

:10:15. > :10:20.forward to a new start for his children. In these streets, it's

:10:20. > :10:24.not unusual for teenage brothers and sisters to grow up together

:10:24. > :10:29.sharing one bedroom. I brought you round here because you can see the

:10:29. > :10:37.density. Front doors are a few yards apart. There are no gardens.

:10:37. > :10:42.These things were built above to stick in an extra bedroom. They are

:10:42. > :10:46.on top of each other. It's frightening. This is as dense as it

:10:46. > :10:50.gets. They are building mini blocks of flats in the middle of this.

:10:50. > :10:55.That is the entire park for the kids in this area. We have no

:10:55. > :11:00.ground that we can move to. Nowhere to build. No green spaces. We are

:11:00. > :11:05.bursting at the seams. Housing executive figures show that over

:11:05. > :11:08.90% of the new houses in North Belfast are needed by nationalist.

:11:09. > :11:14.Nationalists hoped that need would be reflected in yesterday's

:11:14. > :11:19.announcement, but actual housing figures were omitted. So far,

:11:19. > :11:24.community representatives on both sides have not been given any

:11:24. > :11:33.details of the deal. On this plan, there are two clearly marked

:11:33. > :11:38.residential areas. One of those areas is here, on the nationalist

:11:38. > :11:44.Antrim Road side of Girdwood a site which has capacity for 70 new

:11:45. > :11:49.houses. Here, right at the other end of the site, just outside the

:11:49. > :11:54.Girdwood boundary wall, on the unionist Clifton Park Avenue, a

:11:54. > :11:59.site with a capacity for 30 new houses. Will there be enough

:11:59. > :12:03.Protestants to fill those houses? Across the road from Girdwood,

:12:03. > :12:09.Nelson McCausland, the Housing Minister and MLA for this area has

:12:09. > :12:15.put in place a plan to build 45 new houses over the next three years in

:12:15. > :12:22.the unionist Lower Oldpark as well as the refurbishment of 26 old

:12:22. > :12:29.houses at a cost of �4 million. The Housing Executive figure show there

:12:29. > :12:38.are three families in urgent need of housing in the Lower Oldpark.

:12:38. > :12:44.His justification is that he is fulfill fulfilling that any deal

:12:44. > :12:47.must go hand in hand with surrounding communities.

:12:47. > :12:52.securing the regeneration of the deprived residential areas adjacent

:12:52. > :12:57.to the site. There is a need to rebuild communities in that area. I

:12:57. > :13:01.went to the Lower Oldpark and tried to develop the same for that area.

:13:01. > :13:05.That was always to be consistent with the principle. It's the

:13:05. > :13:09.principle that I think the vast majority will live up to. The

:13:09. > :13:12.principle of housing need determines housing allocation. If

:13:12. > :13:17.there is a genuine need for unionist housing that should be met.

:13:17. > :13:22.If there is a greater genuine need for nationalist housing that should

:13:22. > :13:27.be met. You cannot compromise those principles because they will

:13:27. > :13:30.struggle for and are won and have served us well. Some suggest that

:13:30. > :13:37.the Housing Minister's real commitment is to the repopulation

:13:37. > :13:41.of the constituency with Protestant There is the politics of housing

:13:41. > :13:46.which comes back to the symbolic need to maintain areas with

:13:46. > :13:50.populations in them and also the political and voting demographics

:13:50. > :13:54.of north Belfast. They come together which is the need for

:13:54. > :14:00.putting houses in a world park and hoping you can get people to go in

:14:00. > :14:04.and repopulate the airier and live there and stay there. You know the

:14:04. > :14:08.area, do you think people will move back in? It does not had a strong

:14:08. > :14:13.statement population four years. There is not a great demand at the

:14:13. > :14:18.moment, that's not to say you could not manufacture a demand if the

:14:18. > :14:22.houses come. The Housing Minister is now supporting an advertising

:14:22. > :14:28.campaign to bring Protestants back to the low altar Park. Brochures

:14:28. > :14:37.like this have been designed in a bid to persuade protestants on

:14:37. > :14:44.waiting lists. -- to change their area of choice in order to help

:14:44. > :14:49.repopulate here. It is looking at ways to repopulate the area, for

:14:49. > :14:56.people to come back in, there is also a high waiting list in

:14:56. > :15:02.surrounding areas on Shang call there. We are hoping to link into

:15:02. > :15:05.that list to bring people back into the community. Senior officials

:15:05. > :15:09.inside the Housing Executive have told us that while there is a

:15:09. > :15:13.genuine need for some regeneration in the low old park it is hard to

:15:13. > :15:16.justify it allocating so many new houses and an area where there is

:15:16. > :15:24.so little me then that a time whether ministers budget has been

:15:24. > :15:29.virtually halved. Brian Feeney, a historian and former SDLP

:15:29. > :15:32.councillor in North Belfast, says is similar process failed during

:15:33. > :15:38.the violence of the Troubles. He questions whether the housing

:15:38. > :15:45.minister is correctly interpreting the commitment of the vision to

:15:45. > :15:49.regeneration. 1986, when they were trying to build houses in almost

:15:49. > :15:55.the same place, they could not gut -- get any candidates. There were

:15:55. > :15:59.no takers. They could not anybody to come and live in houses -- get

:15:59. > :16:06.anybody. The huge demand for housing is on the Catholic side and

:16:06. > :16:11.building houses is not regeneration, it is naive to pretend to building

:16:11. > :16:19.houses is regeneration. It is not just nationalists who doubt

:16:19. > :16:22.Protestants will return to the area. Fred, a former Ulster Unionist

:16:22. > :16:29.councillor and MLA agrees it is unlikely large numbers will come

:16:29. > :16:33.back. This idea that somehow there will be a flood of Protestants

:16:33. > :16:39.returning to North Belfast is nonsense. What is the sense in

:16:39. > :16:42.banding and regenerating areas if people do not move back? There are

:16:42. > :16:51.housing prices within Protestant communities and with in different

:16:51. > :16:57.fields. Housing is a complicated issue. There are people living in

:16:57. > :17:05.conditions that are not satisfying. You cannot subdivide a housing list

:17:05. > :17:08.and a social need list into a party or voter list. You have to decide

:17:08. > :17:15.who in this instance is most in need of a house. Who needs it more

:17:15. > :17:19.than someone else? Sid says approving houses where there is no

:17:19. > :17:23.proven need undermines the principle on which the housing

:17:23. > :17:28.effective was established. should not be building houses where

:17:28. > :17:33.there is not that proven need. One issue of concern is why is that

:17:33. > :17:38.being done because resources are scarce? And if housing is not being

:17:38. > :17:43.constructed in accordance with what is the proven strategic need

:17:43. > :17:46.produced on a well established evidence based, that would be a

:17:46. > :17:51.matter for examination because it would represent a nonsensical

:17:51. > :17:55.expenditure of public funds. allocation of houses has historical

:17:55. > :18:00.significance in Northern Ireland. Catholics have long protested over

:18:00. > :18:03.discrimination. Fair distribution of public housing was one of the

:18:03. > :18:07.key demands of the civil rights movement and led to the setting-up

:18:07. > :18:11.of the current Northern Ireland Housing Executive. The hope was

:18:11. > :18:16.that in establishing that the organisation we could bring

:18:16. > :18:21.fairness to allocation of housing and also develop a more strategic

:18:21. > :18:27.approach to the construction of housing in Northern Ireland. What

:18:27. > :18:35.is the level of need in terms of the number of new homes required to

:18:35. > :18:39.be constructed, then how do you allocate those homes? In 2011 did

:18:39. > :18:44.then how he had approved plans to build 200 houses on dead wood, the

:18:44. > :18:49.number recommended by the Housing Executive. Had these houses being

:18:49. > :18:54.built and allocated on the basis of proven need? The vast majority

:18:54. > :18:58.would have gone to Catholics. Four months later, when Nelson

:18:58. > :19:03.McCausland became housing minister, he still the decision, citing the

:19:03. > :19:12.stipulation of the Gurd would plan for the agreement of the Protestant

:19:12. > :19:15.community next to the site. What is disturbing is that of all the

:19:15. > :19:19.schemes in Northern Ireland in relation to housing this was the

:19:19. > :19:27.only one remove from the programme by the minister and without

:19:27. > :19:35.explanation. Many suspect his decision is based on political

:19:35. > :19:43.prejudice, many suspect that, I hope not. However, on the face of

:19:43. > :19:46.it the minister's decision is perverse. But the minister insisted

:19:47. > :19:51.he was up holding the principle of a shared future for everyone in

:19:51. > :19:55.north Belfast. However, it was the first time a housing minister here

:19:55. > :20:04.had overturned a recommendation that a rising Executive involving

:20:05. > :20:11.Did a Minister ever ignore the advice, or recommendation of the

:20:11. > :20:16.Executive that had been made on objective proven need? No, the

:20:16. > :20:19.position was that the government would establish the broad policy

:20:19. > :20:24.which the expected the Northern Ireland Housing Executive to follow

:20:24. > :20:27.but it was clearly recognised that the Northern Ireland Housing

:20:27. > :20:31.Executive was the regional strategic housing authority,

:20:31. > :20:37.therefore there was no role, no scope for any direct rule minister

:20:37. > :20:41.to play any part in the question of determining need. There is no

:20:41. > :20:44.question that the housing Executive and other bodies are under much

:20:44. > :20:50.more pressure now than they wear under direct rule because under

:20:50. > :20:54.direct rule there was a housing branch in the Northern Ireland

:20:54. > :20:57.Office and that could always step in when pressure was put on by a

:20:57. > :21:03.local MP, for example, but that is not happening any more because it

:21:03. > :21:07.is local politicians who are carving up things to suit

:21:07. > :21:13.themselves. But this is not a view shared by the DUP. It sees the

:21:13. > :21:20.provision of housing in the areas as an essential part of

:21:20. > :21:26.regenerating the Unionist community. Here in the low were called Park

:21:26. > :21:32.the population has declined. Those left behind have found themselves

:21:32. > :21:37.living behind boarded-up properties. Local residents insist new houses

:21:37. > :21:47.are long overdue in an area that was decimated by the conflict and

:21:47. > :21:49.

:21:49. > :21:54.then left to decay. What happened The area is now known as a Peace

:21:54. > :21:57.Wall. There would have been a tax on individuals houses, this was at

:21:57. > :22:02.the height of the Troubles. Families then started to move out,

:22:02. > :22:08.they had Smalley and children and did not be faced with the danger.

:22:08. > :22:12.Slowly but surely you would get one resident and then the houses

:22:12. > :22:16.vandalised, not boarded up in time. The fear of the other community is

:22:16. > :22:20.also are the heart of the dispute. For some Protestants the allocation

:22:20. > :22:24.of a large number of houses to Catholics, albeit on proven need,

:22:25. > :22:29.would be a threat to the survival of the community in the area. They

:22:29. > :22:35.point to the near by a Torrens estate as an example of what they

:22:35. > :22:39.believe could happen. 10 years ago the estate was a small Protestant

:22:39. > :22:46.enclave surrounded by a growing nationalist population. The last a

:22:46. > :22:50.distant family is left in 2004. Today it is predominantly Catholic.

:22:50. > :22:54.Pete has worked with both communities here for many years.

:22:54. > :22:57.One of the problems with a small population is it is hard to

:22:57. > :23:03.reproduce itself because it becomes more elderly so there was a

:23:03. > :23:10.demographic issue because of low birth rates. Some people did leave

:23:10. > :23:13.because of intimidation, that is clear, some look for better housing

:23:13. > :23:23.but there was intimidation, I do not think there was any doubt of

:23:23. > :23:24.

:23:24. > :23:29.that. Four years later Torrance sparked a bitter debate.

:23:29. > :23:33.departure of those folk was overseen by a Sinn Fein councillor

:23:33. > :23:39.from north Belfast who was there as the workmen were put off the site

:23:39. > :23:43.by Republicans when the work men attempted to put up a small fence

:23:44. > :23:51.to protect those Protestant homes from serious and sustained

:23:51. > :23:56.sectarian attack. I am disappointed Nelson McCausland sectarian eyes is

:23:56. > :24:02.this issue. It is something that affects all the people in north

:24:02. > :24:06.Belfast. For many the lesson of these areas is that they need of

:24:06. > :24:10.families for homes cannot come before the consequences for

:24:10. > :24:16.community relations of changing the population balance him bitterly

:24:16. > :24:21.divided areas. However, the head of the equality commission is clear

:24:21. > :24:25.about where the priority should live. A public body cannot height -

:24:25. > :24:30.- hide behind promoting good relations in order to avoid a

:24:30. > :24:35.quality duties. A unionist may feel alienated but the situation for us

:24:35. > :24:42.would be in the allocation of houses anything other of need would

:24:43. > :24:47.mean the housing allocated, whoever it is, would be in breach of their

:24:47. > :24:54.statutory duty. Others argue cannot for the principle of equality ahead

:24:54. > :24:57.of the reality of life on the ground in Northern Ireland. You can

:24:57. > :25:01.only have proper air quality when you have built a society that is

:25:01. > :25:07.fair, but has good relations. If people are afraid to live where

:25:07. > :25:12.they want to live, that is not a quality. We understand the housing

:25:12. > :25:15.deal being brokered is close to the DUP's desire to promote community

:25:15. > :25:19.relations than for the desire of those who wish to see housing

:25:19. > :25:22.allocated on the basis of proven need. Nevertheless, in the spirit

:25:22. > :25:26.of something is better than nothing, nationalist parties appeared to

:25:26. > :25:35.have signed up to the deal. But that has led to frustration among

:25:35. > :25:39.some in the community. There is a general sense within the community

:25:39. > :25:49.that 40 years plus after the advent of the civil rights movement that

:25:49. > :25:50.

:25:50. > :25:53.they still feel they are being discriminated against. Unionist

:25:53. > :25:59.politicians might congratulate themselves privately on a strategy

:25:59. > :26:03.that is holding back some sort of green tide of republicanism,

:26:03. > :26:12.nationalism and of Belfast. It is a narrow, short-term, dangerous

:26:12. > :26:16.vision because it is entrenching sectarianism. What is to some

:26:16. > :26:21.entrenching sectarianism is to some of reversing historic Unionist

:26:21. > :26:25.decline. It is clear that since Nelson McCausland became housing

:26:25. > :26:31.minister his interpretation of allocating houses has differed from

:26:31. > :26:35.his predecessors. In the new large Carlisle area there are 165 cases

:26:35. > :26:41.of urgent need amongst nationalists, the minister has allocated 35 new

:26:41. > :26:48.homes here. In Cliftonville, where there are 170 cases, a has approved

:26:48. > :26:53.just 18. -- he has approved. Of his interpretation of the proven need

:26:53. > :27:00.real -- role in national areas has been frugal, has the almost

:27:00. > :27:04.completely ignored it in other areas? The answer is used a special

:27:04. > :27:08.provision to seek emergency of approval from Housing Executive for

:27:08. > :27:14.the new houses in the lower old park on the basis of regeneration

:27:15. > :27:19.without having to establish any proven need. There needs to be a

:27:19. > :27:23.re-examination of the most urgent priority and that is the basis on

:27:24. > :27:28.which expenditure decisions ought to be taken rather than some kind

:27:28. > :27:33.of social engineering. Many nationalists are unhappy that the

:27:33. > :27:43.principle of proven need is being disregarded but are very reluctant

:27:43. > :27:44.

:27:44. > :27:51.We are extremely worried that if we don't agree to whatever is put in

:27:51. > :27:55.front of us we will be seen to beholding back progress. That is

:27:55. > :27:59.not the case. This is about fairness. This is about equality

:27:59. > :28:03.and social justice. We are not saying who is going to Girdwood or

:28:03. > :28:07.any side we identify. We are saying, there is a housing issue there, we

:28:07. > :28:11.have the biggest waiting list in the North, we want to address it.

:28:11. > :28:18.It doesn't mat is on that waiting list. The bottom line in North

:28:18. > :28:22.Belfast is about voting and political geography. Over the last

:28:22. > :28:26.two elections you have seen the Sinn Fein proportion in the

:28:26. > :28:31.Westminster elections rise in comparison to the DUP vote. You

:28:31. > :28:36.can't get away from the fact that housing is linked to politics.

:28:36. > :28:40.Housing is linked to the power balance between Sinn Fein and the

:28:40. > :28:43.DUP. Politicians say they are buying into a shared future in

:28:43. > :28:49.North Belfast. The equality commission says it's keeping a

:28:49. > :28:54.watching brief on how events unfold in relation to housing. What I can

:28:54. > :28:57.say very simply is, equality isn't one for you, one for me. We have

:28:57. > :29:01.never said that. If anyone feels they have been discriminated

:29:01. > :29:06.against as a result of a an application of a policy, they would

:29:06. > :29:10.need to take forward a complaint to the quality commission. We would

:29:10. > :29:13.investigate it and if there were grounds we look into it. Last night,

:29:14. > :29:17.the Housing Executive had not been officially informed about the

:29:17. > :29:20.detail in the Girdwood deal. A figure within the Housing Executive

:29:20. > :29:24.told Spotlight it was almost beyond belief that no-one was willing or

:29:24. > :29:27.brave enough to put the plans in front of them. Officials have told

:29:27. > :29:31.us they are extremely concerned about the Housing Minister's

:29:31. > :29:36.decision to spend millions of pounds in an area where there is

:29:36. > :29:40.not enough depanned. They say they could be disciplined if they speak

:29:40. > :29:44.publicly. Both Sinn Fein and the DUP are vocal about their desire

:29:44. > :29:48.for a shared future. They have failed to translate that vision

:29:48. > :29:52.into people living together on Girdwood. John Dunlop says people

:29:52. > :29:56.will only live together if politic particulars -- politicians lead the

:29:56. > :30:00.way. We need to get from politicians is leadership. If

:30:00. > :30:05.leadership is being shown from the top. If this kind of vision of a

:30:05. > :30:09.shared future is being driven by people in leadership roles it will

:30:09. > :30:13.have an effect on the ground. Fein is the same as the DUP rule.

:30:13. > :30:18.They are in a difficult position. The enormity of that difficulty is

:30:18. > :30:24.that neither of them actually believes in the share future.

:30:24. > :30:27.Neither of them agrees on the definition of a shared future.

:30:27. > :30:35.the DUP and Sinn Fein declined to take part in this programme. In

:30:35. > :30:39.statements they both emphasised that the grid grid deal achieved

:30:39. > :30:43.all part agreement. Sinn Fein said housing should be allocated on

:30:43. > :30:47.basis of need and responsibility for implement that policy resting

:30:47. > :30:50.with the Housing Executive. Nelson McCausland is about to announce the