Stalking Law

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2:00:00 > 2:00:00SPOTLIGHT STALKER NIC B884P/01 BRD000000

1:53:38 > 1:53:42Stalking - it's a crime that breeds fear and terror.

1:53:42 > 1:53:44Never seen this person before.

1:53:45 > 1:53:47He just came from out of the blue

1:53:47 > 1:53:49and became this scary character that...

1:53:51 > 1:53:52..hunted me. For years.

1:53:54 > 1:53:56And it takes over victims' lives.

1:53:57 > 1:54:00I don't go out very often, constantly checking the doors,

1:54:00 > 1:54:03constantly looking out the window.

1:54:03 > 1:54:06I'm surrounded by security everywhere.

1:54:06 > 1:54:10CCTV, panic buttons up and downstairs...

1:54:10 > 1:54:12Alarm systems.

1:54:13 > 1:54:17But in Northern Ireland, it is an invisible crime.

1:54:17 > 1:54:19In purely legal terms, it doesn't exist.

1:54:20 > 1:54:23We don't name it as a specific criminal offence.

1:54:25 > 1:54:28But according to some victims, this means police

1:54:28 > 1:54:32and prosecutors then fail to protect them.

1:54:32 > 1:54:34Am I ever going to be rid of this man?

1:54:34 > 1:54:36Are the police ever going to take me seriously?

1:54:36 > 1:54:38Am I a nuisance to them?

1:54:38 > 1:54:39Do they think I'm making it up?

1:54:41 > 1:54:45So why is Northern Ireland the only region of the UK not to

1:54:45 > 1:54:47recognise stalking in law?

1:54:48 > 1:54:51And what are the consequences for the victims?

1:55:10 > 1:55:14You may think it is something that only happens to celebrities -

1:55:14 > 1:55:17movie stars or pop stars like Lily Allen.

1:55:17 > 1:55:20I could see from the minute that he came into my bedroom that he

1:55:20 > 1:55:23was ill and that he needed help.

1:55:26 > 1:55:31The majority of victims of stalking are women and most stalkers are men.

1:55:33 > 1:55:37According to research in Great Britain, stalking affects up

1:55:37 > 1:55:39to one in six women in their lifetime.

1:55:41 > 1:55:44If the same were to be true in Northern Ireland, that would

1:55:44 > 1:55:48mean thousands and thousands of people here are affected.

1:55:50 > 1:55:53Breaking the silence are women in Northern Ireland with

1:55:53 > 1:55:57powerful experiences of their stalking nightmares.

1:56:11 > 1:56:13In early 2011, Vicky Clarke was on

1:56:13 > 1:56:16a night out in Bangor with friends.

1:56:18 > 1:56:19I went to the bar to get a drink

1:56:19 > 1:56:21and this man stood beside me

1:56:21 > 1:56:23and said, "Do you remember me?"

1:56:23 > 1:56:26I didn't know him, I couldn't remember him.

1:56:26 > 1:56:29We just had a wee chitchat and that was it.

1:56:29 > 1:56:31Um, a couple of months later,

1:56:31 > 1:56:34he popped up on Facebook

1:56:34 > 1:56:36and befriended me, if you like.

1:56:40 > 1:56:43The pair dated during that summer.

1:56:43 > 1:56:46Vicky remembers they had good times together.

1:56:46 > 1:56:49Scenic places, parks, cafes...

1:56:49 > 1:56:53We'd have driven quite a bit around, if you like, the peninsula.

1:56:53 > 1:56:56I did have feelings for him.

1:56:56 > 1:56:58Bruno Mars, "Catch a Grenade for You",

1:56:58 > 1:57:01believe it or not was our theme song!

1:57:01 > 1:57:03And also, there was a very soft side to him.

1:57:05 > 1:57:08But it was a short-lived romance.

1:57:09 > 1:57:13After just a few months, Vicky said she told him

1:57:13 > 1:57:14he wasn't the man for her.

1:57:16 > 1:57:17And he didn't react well.

1:57:19 > 1:57:21PHONE RINGS

1:57:21 > 1:57:23One night, she switched off her phone

1:57:23 > 1:57:27to get a break from him persistently contacting her.

1:57:28 > 1:57:31I woke up to text messages and missed calls from friends

1:57:31 > 1:57:34saying, "Vicky, check your Facebook page, quickly".

1:57:35 > 1:57:37So I did and I was horrified.

1:57:40 > 1:57:43What she saw was a sexually explicit photo of her

1:57:43 > 1:57:45that he'd posted online.

1:57:46 > 1:57:49I was panicking, I couldn't... It was one of those moments

1:57:49 > 1:57:52when you're just trying to get on the computer as quick as you can.

1:57:52 > 1:57:55I was so ashamed, so humiliated,

1:57:55 > 1:57:57so degraded.

1:58:01 > 1:58:05Vicky says she foolishly agreed to him taking some photos,

1:58:05 > 1:58:07but she thought he had deleted them.

1:58:10 > 1:58:14We were out one night, had a couple of drinks, came back to his place

1:58:14 > 1:58:16and I posed, if you like,

1:58:16 > 1:58:19for a couple of photographs.

1:58:21 > 1:58:22He asked for them.

1:58:22 > 1:58:25I didn't think anything about it.

1:58:25 > 1:58:28I didn't realise that this could happen to me.

1:58:28 > 1:58:33She went to the police, but they didn't charge him with any offence.

1:58:34 > 1:58:37So she ended up keeping in touch with her ex,

1:58:37 > 1:58:42she says in part to ensure he didn't do anything more with the pictures.

1:58:44 > 1:58:46I led on to be friends with him.

1:58:46 > 1:58:49I thought if I don't aggravate him or I don't annoy him,

1:58:49 > 1:58:52then maybe if I just seem like we're friends,

1:58:52 > 1:58:54maybe then he won't start doing his worst.

1:58:54 > 1:58:56But that wasn't the case.

1:59:02 > 1:59:06Over the next few months, she says he bombarded her with texts,

1:59:06 > 1:59:08e-mails, letters and cards.

1:59:08 > 1:59:10Some were messages of love,

1:59:10 > 1:59:12others were threatening.

1:59:14 > 1:59:16And then he wrote, "Every breath I take

1:59:16 > 1:59:18"I think of you, I love you with all my heart,

1:59:18 > 1:59:20"I never ever will hurt you,

1:59:20 > 1:59:25"I will honour and respect you, I am here for you, my only love."

1:59:26 > 1:59:30He then began following her and turning up at her workplace.

1:59:31 > 1:59:35Some days, he showed up on her commute to or from work.

1:59:36 > 1:59:39I wanted him to stop, I didn't want him to come near me.

1:59:39 > 1:59:41I was coming home over the Queen's Bridge in Belfast,

1:59:41 > 1:59:44he actually came to my window at the traffic lights

1:59:44 > 1:59:46and started banging on my window, "I love you!"

1:59:46 > 1:59:47at the top of his voice.

1:59:48 > 1:59:51I didn't know what to do, I was terrified.

1:59:54 > 1:59:55It does seem like

1:59:55 > 1:59:58normal relationship break-up stuff at first?

1:59:58 > 2:00:01Yes, it was like that for me, I thought he was just heartbroken and

2:00:01 > 2:00:06he was just trying to keep in touch with me, but it moved from feeling

2:00:06 > 2:00:10loved, if you like, or heartbroken, to feeling actually quite scared.

2:00:12 > 2:00:16But what Becky didn't realise was that what was happening to her

2:00:16 > 2:00:18had all the hallmarks of stalking.

2:00:20 > 2:00:22Stalking behaviour can happen

2:00:22 > 2:00:24when the couple are still together,

2:00:24 > 2:00:28so for example a husband or partner turning up in the workplace,

2:00:28 > 2:00:32following the person when they're going on a night out.

2:00:32 > 2:00:34So it happens when the couple are still together,

2:00:34 > 2:00:36but happens more predominantly when...

2:00:36 > 2:00:38Once the couple have separated.

2:00:41 > 2:00:43Whilst part of Vicky badly wanted rid of him,

2:00:43 > 2:00:47she also still had feelings for him.

2:00:47 > 2:00:50She says on one occasion, even after he posted the intimate

2:00:50 > 2:00:54photo on Facebook, she slept with him a final time.

2:00:56 > 2:00:58I mucked that up myself.

2:00:58 > 2:01:01He persisted and persisted in contacting me.

2:01:02 > 2:01:03Hindsight's a great thing.

2:01:03 > 2:01:06But I didn't know what this person was like,

2:01:06 > 2:01:07I didn't know what he was like.

2:01:10 > 2:01:14Vicky eventually cut off all contact with her ex, and the PSNI

2:01:14 > 2:01:18attempted to make a harassment case against him, but it failed.

2:01:21 > 2:01:25She accepts that the police's task was made more difficult

2:01:25 > 2:01:28by the fact she hadn't made a clean break from the relationship.

2:01:31 > 2:01:36After the case collapsed, she says the stalking behaviour got worse.

2:01:39 > 2:01:41She claims he made threats to kill her.

2:01:42 > 2:01:46She also moved house, but he found out where she was.

2:01:50 > 2:01:54Vicky documented and reported incidents to the PSNI.

2:01:56 > 2:01:59In March 2013, she was back at the police station

2:01:59 > 2:02:02to log another approach from her stalker.

2:02:04 > 2:02:09And when she left, she says he was actually waiting outside for her.

2:02:09 > 2:02:12I went back into the police station, thinking great, police officers

2:02:12 > 2:02:15are going to witness him, cos all the time I've been doing this,

2:02:15 > 2:02:19you have to have witnesses, you have to have evidence, record everything.

2:02:20 > 2:02:24According to Vicky, her stalker made up an excuse for being there

2:02:24 > 2:02:27and the matter was closed.

2:02:27 > 2:02:30But the incident left her with serious questions

2:02:30 > 2:02:33about the police attitude to what was going on.

2:02:34 > 2:02:37I thought, am I ever going to be rid of this man?

2:02:37 > 2:02:39Are the police ever going to take me seriously?

2:02:39 > 2:02:41Am I a nuisance to them?

2:02:41 > 2:02:42Do they think I'm making it up?

2:02:42 > 2:02:45There were times, more intermittent,

2:02:45 > 2:02:48Vicky says her stalking ordeal has continued.

2:02:48 > 2:02:52Recently, police have provided her with a panic alarm,

2:02:52 > 2:02:55but they still haven't built a case against her alleged tormentor.

2:02:55 > 2:02:59So in March, she applied to court herself.

2:02:59 > 2:03:03On the day of the hearing, her former boyfriend signed

2:03:03 > 2:03:07an undertaking promising to leave her alone.

2:03:07 > 2:03:09I've been robbed of five years of peace,

2:03:09 > 2:03:10feeling normal,

2:03:10 > 2:03:12feeling safe,

2:03:12 > 2:03:16being a mum who's carefree and happy.

2:03:16 > 2:03:19I feel like I'm tired of firefighting, that I've had to fight

2:03:19 > 2:03:23a stalker, I've had to fight the police, I had to fight the court.

2:03:25 > 2:03:29When we contacted the man Vicky said stalked her, through his

2:03:29 > 2:03:30solicitor, he said that he

2:03:30 > 2:03:33"vigorously and entirely denied her allegations".

2:03:35 > 2:03:39We also asked the PSNI to respond to Vicky's claims that they had failed

2:03:39 > 2:03:44to investigate her case properly and viewed her as a nuisance.

2:03:44 > 2:03:48The police said they could not comment on Vicky's case

2:03:48 > 2:03:50as the police ombudsman is investigating

2:03:50 > 2:03:53a complaint from her about their handling of it.

2:03:55 > 2:03:58What we're doing is a bunch of women are getting together

2:03:58 > 2:03:59and we're going to sign a petition

2:03:59 > 2:04:02and bring it to the Assembly to ask them to change our laws.

2:04:02 > 2:04:05Vicky and friends are gathering signatures for her

2:04:05 > 2:04:07"laws for women" petition.

2:04:07 > 2:04:10They are protesting because Northern Ireland is the only

2:04:10 > 2:04:14region of the UK that does not have stalking legislation.

2:04:16 > 2:04:19They're demanding Stormont now make stalking a specific

2:04:19 > 2:04:20criminal offence.

2:04:24 > 2:04:26I'll chain myself to the gates of Stormont

2:04:26 > 2:04:29and that's just how far I'm going to go with this. They have to listen.

2:04:29 > 2:04:31The government has to listen.

2:04:34 > 2:04:38Stalking involves persistent and clearly unwanted attention.

2:04:38 > 2:04:42It can cause fear, anxiety, alarm or distress.

2:04:42 > 2:04:45In extreme cases, victims have been murdered.

2:04:45 > 2:04:48Usually, it involves tracking someone

2:04:48 > 2:04:52and sometimes in the most mundane ways.

2:04:52 > 2:04:54Leaving gifts is a behaviour that's very common -

2:04:54 > 2:04:57unwanted, romantic gifts - that other people would not

2:04:57 > 2:05:00regard as problematic in any way, shape or form,

2:05:00 > 2:05:04but actually, to the person that receives that gift,

2:05:04 > 2:05:06it's a real...

2:05:06 > 2:05:07You know, it's a threat.

2:05:07 > 2:05:10It's a threat because that's saying, "I know where you are,

2:05:10 > 2:05:12"I know what you're doing."

2:05:15 > 2:05:19Because stalking isn't named in law in Northern Ireland,

2:05:19 > 2:05:23the type of unwanted and persistent attention Vicky was receiving

2:05:23 > 2:05:25is simply called harassment.

2:05:26 > 2:05:29However, the harassment law is broad

2:05:29 > 2:05:31and includes all sorts of behaviour,

2:05:31 > 2:05:33like minor neighbourhood disputes.

2:05:36 > 2:05:40Vicky says this downplays the particular severity of stalking

2:05:40 > 2:05:43and some victims feel that it leads to their cases

2:05:43 > 2:05:46not being properly understood.

2:05:46 > 2:05:50Stalking victims say labelling what is happening to them as harassment

2:05:50 > 2:05:55is a serious shortcoming that's having an impact on their lives.

2:06:00 > 2:06:04Failure by police and prosecutors to identify patterns of stalking

2:06:04 > 2:06:08behaviour was a key finding in a Parliamentary report five years ago.

2:06:10 > 2:06:13It said that the harassment law was "not fit to protect

2:06:13 > 2:06:15"the victims of stalking".

2:06:17 > 2:06:19So the law was changed

2:06:19 > 2:06:22and in England, Scotland and Wales,

2:06:22 > 2:06:25stalking is a specific criminal offence.

2:06:27 > 2:06:30But it wasn't changed in Northern Ireland.

2:06:30 > 2:06:35The man who made that decision was former Justice Minister David Ford.

2:06:35 > 2:06:37There was certainly consideration of

2:06:37 > 2:06:39offences around stalking -

2:06:39 > 2:06:41the evidence that was available

2:06:41 > 2:06:46to me at the time was that existing offences covered what is in effect

2:06:46 > 2:06:49stalking and there was no need to name it specifically.

2:06:49 > 2:06:52There was no justification for prioritising it against all

2:06:52 > 2:06:54the other issues that we had to consider.

2:06:56 > 2:06:59Solicitor Ciaran Moynagh is concerned that the law has not been

2:06:59 > 2:07:02brought into line with the rest of the UK.

2:07:04 > 2:07:07Having stalking defined in law

2:07:07 > 2:07:09would shine a torch on that issue

2:07:09 > 2:07:11and that would focus, then...

2:07:11 > 2:07:13Victims would know they're actual victims,

2:07:13 > 2:07:17perpetrators would know what they're doing is unlawful

2:07:17 > 2:07:21and then the professional agencies would have tools

2:07:21 > 2:07:25and they'd be equipped to tackle the stalking specifically.

2:07:27 > 2:07:32When you raise the issue of stalking here, it's as if it doesn't exist.

2:07:32 > 2:07:38Stormont says it has no statistics for stalking-related convictions.

2:07:38 > 2:07:40There is no local research on the subject

2:07:40 > 2:07:44and there are no support groups for the victims of stalking.

2:07:44 > 2:07:47And that can leave them feeling abandoned.

2:07:47 > 2:07:49If you're a victim of stalking

2:07:49 > 2:07:51in Northern Ireland,

2:07:51 > 2:07:52then you aren't going to get

2:07:52 > 2:07:54justice, it's as simple as that.

2:07:54 > 2:07:55If you're a victim in England,

2:07:55 > 2:07:59although there are difficulties still, in terms of the police

2:07:59 > 2:08:03requiring training and all the rest of it, you've still got a far better

2:08:03 > 2:08:08chance of obtaining justice and the law is at least there to enable it.

2:08:08 > 2:08:11In Northern Ireland, even if the police WANT to do something,

2:08:11 > 2:08:15their hands are tied and they cannot prosecute for stalking.

2:08:16 > 2:08:19But David Ford says that just because the law doesn't

2:08:19 > 2:08:23mention stalking, it doesn't mean victims are not protected.

2:08:25 > 2:08:26Yes, exactly.

2:08:26 > 2:08:29I can certainly see how victims would see it that way.

2:08:29 > 2:08:33But when you look at the whole issue of the creation of an offence,

2:08:33 > 2:08:37you need to look at the balance of where existing offences fit,

2:08:37 > 2:08:40how they tie together the work of the different justice agencies,

2:08:40 > 2:08:43how they deal with it, as well as how victims feel.

2:08:43 > 2:08:46And those judgements are frequently complex.

2:08:50 > 2:08:54This is Margarette O'Donnell, a busy young mum of three from Coleraine.

2:08:56 > 2:08:59If she's not with the kids or doing voluntary work,

2:08:59 > 2:09:01she's often hard at it in the gym.

2:09:03 > 2:09:06She's come a long way from a horrifying ordeal that

2:09:06 > 2:09:09gripped her life when she was a teenager.

2:09:10 > 2:09:13I just remember walking down the road,

2:09:13 > 2:09:15this male voice from behind just...

2:09:15 > 2:09:17"Hello, nice day, isn't it?"

2:09:17 > 2:09:19Oh, it's a lovely day,

2:09:19 > 2:09:20great day, good to see it.

2:09:20 > 2:09:22And...

2:09:22 > 2:09:24He just continued to walk

2:09:24 > 2:09:26beside me and talk to me,

2:09:26 > 2:09:29though the way he talked changed.

2:09:29 > 2:09:31It changed from this friendly,

2:09:31 > 2:09:33to this sharp voice of...

2:09:33 > 2:09:37"I suppose you like a good screw? I suppose you like a good shag?"

2:09:37 > 2:09:39Um...

2:09:39 > 2:09:42"I bet your boyfriend likes a good shag?"

2:09:42 > 2:09:45And this is basically how he started to talk to me and

2:09:45 > 2:09:49he kind of got me unaware and I just froze, I didn't know what to say.

2:09:52 > 2:09:57The police were called, but couldn't find him. He appeared

2:09:57 > 2:10:00sporadically over months, mostly turning up at her work.

2:10:02 > 2:10:03Never seen this person before.

2:10:05 > 2:10:07He just came from out of the blue

2:10:07 > 2:10:10and became the scary character that...

2:10:10 > 2:10:12hunted me, for years.

2:10:12 > 2:10:15That's the only way I can think to put it.

2:10:19 > 2:10:23I really didn't realise how much of...

2:10:26 > 2:10:28..our lives that it had taken over,

2:10:28 > 2:10:30it's only when you talk about it now.

2:10:32 > 2:10:35Scared to go out, Margarette spent much of her time in her

2:10:35 > 2:10:38bedroom and the stress took its toll,

2:10:38 > 2:10:41not just on her, but on her family,

2:10:41 > 2:10:43and especially her mum.

2:10:44 > 2:10:47I was obsessed with how you'd know

2:10:47 > 2:10:49that anything would happen to her.

2:10:51 > 2:10:54What did you worry that he was capable of?

2:10:54 > 2:10:56Could he murder her?

2:10:56 > 2:10:57Could he rape her?

2:10:57 > 2:11:00Would she disappear and never be seen again?

2:11:05 > 2:11:08Though Margarette didn't suffer any physical harm,

2:11:08 > 2:11:13part of her trauma stemmed from having no idea who her stalker was,

2:11:13 > 2:11:14or why he was doing it.

2:11:16 > 2:11:20Nobody could protect me, this man was so powerful.

2:11:20 > 2:11:22And I was powerless.

2:11:22 > 2:11:24You try everything to make yourself safe,

2:11:24 > 2:11:26but he could have done anything.

2:11:34 > 2:11:38When the stalking stopped, she just wanted to move on with her life,

2:11:38 > 2:11:41rather than cope with the psychological trauma

2:11:41 > 2:11:42it had left behind.

2:11:44 > 2:11:49But last year, as a result of other problems she was experiencing,

2:11:49 > 2:11:51she found herself struggling with depression.

2:11:53 > 2:11:56In November, she decided to take her own life

2:11:56 > 2:11:58here at Ramore Head.

2:11:58 > 2:12:01What was it like being here that day?

2:12:01 > 2:12:04I had this day planned, like...

2:12:04 > 2:12:05I knew when I dropped the kids off,

2:12:05 > 2:12:08that would be the last time I'd see them.

2:12:08 > 2:12:10I didn't want to live, I didn't...

2:12:10 > 2:12:13I just wanted everything to end, the pain to end.

2:12:15 > 2:12:18Margarette was ready to jump,

2:12:18 > 2:12:21but a passer-by intervened.

2:12:22 > 2:12:26Looking back, it's been hard for her to realise how big a part

2:12:26 > 2:12:28stalking played in her depression.

2:12:30 > 2:12:33I don't think it's never going to leave me, like...

2:12:33 > 2:12:35But I feel stronger.

2:12:37 > 2:12:42And I don't... I don't have the same fear as I would have had.

2:12:46 > 2:12:48What about him?

2:12:48 > 2:12:50Are you still afraid of him?

2:12:56 > 2:12:57I'm not afraid of him.

2:12:57 > 2:13:00I've been afraid of what he did.

2:13:01 > 2:13:06There was never any justice for what he did and I was never confident...

2:13:07 > 2:13:09..that he would never do it again.

2:13:11 > 2:13:15I've basically lived my life... Even though he hasn't been around,

2:13:15 > 2:13:17I've lived my life with a stalker.

2:13:20 > 2:13:2528% of stalking victims consider taking their own lives.

2:13:26 > 2:13:29Today, Margarette is now determined to help others

2:13:29 > 2:13:32facing similar trauma.

2:13:34 > 2:13:37We contacted Margarette's stalker and put to him

2:13:37 > 2:13:39the allegations she has made.

2:13:39 > 2:13:41In a letter, his solicitor confirmed

2:13:41 > 2:13:45this man was interviewed by police about these matters

2:13:45 > 2:13:48in 2003, but was never charged

2:13:48 > 2:13:50and the case was dropped.

2:13:50 > 2:13:54He said the man denies causing any form of harassment to Margarette.

2:13:56 > 2:14:00Since the introduction of the new stalking law in England and Wales,

2:14:00 > 2:14:04prosecutions for it and other forms of harassment have risen.

2:14:05 > 2:14:09David Ford says that it may be necessary to look at the law again.

2:14:16 > 2:14:19There is clearly evidence showing what has happened in England

2:14:19 > 2:14:22and Wales, we need to look to see exactly what the comparisons

2:14:22 > 2:14:25would be with Northern Ireland, but it's certainly something

2:14:25 > 2:14:27which appears to merit looking at it again.

2:14:27 > 2:14:30So we've been seeking to ensure that Northern Ireland law

2:14:30 > 2:14:32meets Northern Ireland needs and maybe on some occasions,

2:14:32 > 2:14:36information comes to light two or three years down the line which

2:14:36 > 2:14:39suggests we need to examine it. This may well be one of those cases.

2:14:42 > 2:14:45Brenda lives every single day under siege.

2:14:47 > 2:14:50I tend to go to shops that have cameras in them.

2:14:51 > 2:14:53Constantly checking the doors,

2:14:53 > 2:14:55constantly looking out the window.

2:14:55 > 2:14:57I'm surrounded by security everywhere.

2:14:57 > 2:15:01CCTV, panic buttons up and downstairs, um...

2:15:03 > 2:15:05Alarm systems.

2:15:07 > 2:15:10For Brenda, who didn't want her face shown,

2:15:10 > 2:15:15her stalking nightmare began 14 years ago.

2:15:15 > 2:15:20A man she had briefly dated began following her and making threats.

2:15:20 > 2:15:23Twice, he tried to run her over in his car.

2:15:25 > 2:15:30To get away from him, Brenda left Northern Ireland.

2:15:30 > 2:15:32A decade later and now a mum,

2:15:32 > 2:15:35she returned and it all began again.

2:15:42 > 2:15:46In 2012, she took and paid for her own case to get a temporary

2:15:46 > 2:15:49court order to stop her stalker coming near her.

2:15:49 > 2:15:51But that didn't work.

2:15:54 > 2:15:59And in 2013, he showed his total disregard for the court process.

2:16:01 > 2:16:04I was sitting in the house, it was around 10.00, 10.30 at night

2:16:04 > 2:16:07and the door knocked. So...

2:16:07 > 2:16:11At this stage now, we all know, the stalker's on the go.

2:16:11 > 2:16:12Let me in.

2:16:12 > 2:16:16I opened the blind and looked out, and it was him.

2:16:16 > 2:16:19He started doing the sign of a gun at his head.

2:16:19 > 2:16:23And I lifted my son off the sofa, called the cops.

2:16:23 > 2:16:24He's at the door, he's back.

2:16:24 > 2:16:28Police charged him with criminal damage and threats to kill.

2:16:32 > 2:16:36Last year, Brenda's stalker was deemed mentally unfit to

2:16:36 > 2:16:38stand criminal trial and released,

2:16:38 > 2:16:41pending psychiatric reports.

2:16:45 > 2:16:48Despite bail conditions, within weeks of being in court,

2:16:48 > 2:16:51he was back at Brenda's door.

2:16:51 > 2:16:55She called the police, but by the time they arrived, he had gone.

2:16:57 > 2:17:00Lo and behold, this time, the police are at my house, there's an officer

2:17:00 > 2:17:03with me and the door knocked whilst I was giving him my statement.

2:17:05 > 2:17:06And it was the stalker.

2:17:08 > 2:17:10Out the way!

2:17:10 > 2:17:13He pushed the cop out the way and got into my house

2:17:13 > 2:17:16and he was standing in my house with the cops now wrestling with him,

2:17:16 > 2:17:19screaming, "Will you marry me?" at like, 5.00 in the morning.

2:17:19 > 2:17:21He had to be dragged out of my house by the cops

2:17:21 > 2:17:25- and physically restrained to be handcuffed.- What are you doing?

2:17:25 > 2:17:28Her stalker appeared before the magistrates' court,

2:17:28 > 2:17:30but was - again - let out on bail.

2:17:37 > 2:17:41But just days later, he was back at Brenda's door once more.

2:17:45 > 2:17:48This time, he was jailed for several months,

2:17:48 > 2:17:50but he is now out of prison.

2:17:51 > 2:17:55Brenda says jailing him for breaching bail conditions

2:17:55 > 2:17:59and not for his stalking was, in her words, "a joke".

2:18:00 > 2:18:03It's laughable. There's no...

2:18:03 > 2:18:05It in no way makes you feel safe, it in no way makes you

2:18:05 > 2:18:07feel like someone is going to stand up and say,

2:18:07 > 2:18:10"Look, we know everything he's doing here is wrong,

2:18:10 > 2:18:13"we understand what it has done to your life, we understand

2:18:13 > 2:18:16and we're going to do something about it.

2:18:16 > 2:18:17Because they don't.

2:18:18 > 2:18:23Her stalker is now under another order not to approach Brenda,

2:18:23 > 2:18:26and receiving treatment for what the court was told

2:18:26 > 2:18:27is paranoid psychosis.

2:18:31 > 2:18:34Brenda's case is complicated by the fact this man is

2:18:34 > 2:18:38mentally ill and there's a limit to what the criminal justice system

2:18:38 > 2:18:41can do to punish and restrain him.

2:18:41 > 2:18:44But she says he IS still a stalker and should be named

2:18:44 > 2:18:47and treated as such and she believes that

2:18:47 > 2:18:50if he'd been charged with stalking, it would have focused the minds

2:18:50 > 2:18:54of prosecutors on how to deal with him at a much earlier stage.

2:18:54 > 2:18:57It's left her frustrated and very angry.

2:19:03 > 2:19:05I'm always waiting for him to come back.

2:19:05 > 2:19:08How am I ever supposed to think he's not going to come back?

2:19:11 > 2:19:13We contacted Brenda's stalker through his solicitor

2:19:13 > 2:19:16to put Brenda's allegations to him.

2:19:16 > 2:19:20He said he did not wish to participate in the programme.

2:19:23 > 2:19:27We asked the PSNI and the Public Prosecution Service to

2:19:27 > 2:19:32talk about the women's concerns over the existing law in particular,

2:19:32 > 2:19:35and their claims the authorities are failing to build cases

2:19:35 > 2:19:37that convict stalkers.

2:19:38 > 2:19:41Both declined to be interviewed.

2:19:41 > 2:19:43But in statements, they said,

2:19:43 > 2:19:46"While there's no specific offence of stalking here,

2:19:46 > 2:19:50"this form of conduct may be covered by other types of legislation

2:19:50 > 2:19:53"and they can seek to use restraining orders."

2:19:53 > 2:19:57The police said they're committed to keeping people safe and no victim

2:19:57 > 2:20:01should ever feel their complaints are not being taken seriously.

2:20:01 > 2:20:03They acknowledge victims' issues about treating

2:20:03 > 2:20:05incidents in isolation,

2:20:05 > 2:20:09but pointed out if a complete offence has been committed, they are

2:20:09 > 2:20:14obliged to investigate this rather than waiting for another incident.

2:20:15 > 2:20:20The PPS said stalking is a complex issue and rejected any assertion

2:20:20 > 2:20:25they avoid taking stalking-type cases forward using existing laws.

2:20:28 > 2:20:30Vicky Clarke has come to Stormont.

2:20:30 > 2:20:34Her stalker has recently signed a court undertaking agreeing not

2:20:34 > 2:20:39to go near her. But her campaign to change the law continues.

2:20:40 > 2:20:43Today, she's meeting MLA Brenda Hale.

2:20:44 > 2:20:47We need to put a very, very clear message out there,

2:20:47 > 2:20:49that actually, you cannot stalk,

2:20:49 > 2:20:51you cannot make people's lives hell.

2:20:51 > 2:20:54What she has been through and what her family have been through

2:20:54 > 2:20:57and her friends, and yet there seems to be no help or

2:20:57 > 2:21:01assistance from the justice system or the PSNI.

2:21:01 > 2:21:05Brenda Hale plans to bring a Private Member's Bill

2:21:05 > 2:21:07to address the gap in the law.

2:21:07 > 2:21:11Today, the new Justice Minister said extending the provisions here

2:21:11 > 2:21:14is something she'd be willing to consider.

2:21:14 > 2:21:17But for women who have felt hunted for years,

2:21:17 > 2:21:19a change will come too late.