:00:22. > :00:23.Hello and welcome to Spotlight Special,
:00:24. > :00:24.where members of our studio audience put questions
:00:25. > :00:28.to our panel of politicians on the week's big talking points.
:00:29. > :00:32.DUP MLA Edwin Poots, a former Health Minister at Stormont.
:00:33. > :00:37.Sinn Fein's John O'Dowd, a former Education Minister
:00:38. > :00:40.Also her party's spokesperson on Brexit
:00:41. > :00:43.is the SDLP's Claire Hanna, MLA for South Belfast.
:00:44. > :00:50.Steve Aiken is an Ulster Unionist MLA for South Antrim.
:00:51. > :00:52.And the Alliance Councillor, Nuala McAllister,
:00:53. > :01:00.And, of course, you at home can take part.
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:01:27. > :01:38.Let's get straight in. Our first question is from Adam Walker mad
:01:39. > :01:45.administrator from Belfast. What will it take to make devolution
:01:46. > :01:55.work? Well, we were told we had six days to save Stormont before
:01:56. > :02:00.Westminster makes its actions. Can Stormont be salvaged? What will make
:02:01. > :02:04.Stormont work? There are three stages to any negotiations. There is
:02:05. > :02:11.negotiation itself, the agreement and then negotiation. Each of those
:02:12. > :02:18.is as important as the other as they won't work without the others. We
:02:19. > :02:23.are now seeking a rumination on the agreements. That will make Stormont
:02:24. > :02:27.work. All other parties have signed up to it in various ways, the
:02:28. > :02:32.process we have been involved in. We are signed up to the principle of
:02:33. > :02:44.power-sharing and equality and a rights -based society. That is now
:02:45. > :02:51.how we get an Executive that Robert is all areas -- that represents all
:02:52. > :02:55.aspects of society. We are now down to the mentation. In eight months of
:02:56. > :03:01.talks on and off, you haven't made any ground? There has been progress,
:03:02. > :03:05.but there hasn't been sufficient progress or we would be back in the
:03:06. > :03:08.Executive. At this stage, we are better to get it right than cobbling
:03:09. > :03:13.together something which may fall apart in a number of weeks or
:03:14. > :03:18.months. As a non-MLA, what is the view from outside the hill? The view
:03:19. > :03:24.from outside and from the people of Belfast in particular, because as
:03:25. > :03:28.Lord Mayor that is why represent and advocate for, they are far ahead of
:03:29. > :03:36.the politicians. In my job, I get to represent a great city, and people
:03:37. > :03:40.who want to see Belfast do fantastically well. The MLA 's will
:03:41. > :03:44.say they want that as well. What we need. Want to work as a confident
:03:45. > :03:53.government. We need people to act in respect of each other and in respect
:03:54. > :03:59.of the people of Northern Ireland. They have to get on and compromise
:04:00. > :04:04.and think of what is best for all of Northern Ireland. Compromise, a
:04:05. > :04:08.dirty word? Absolutely not. Our party has not been setting red
:04:09. > :04:14.lines, we are prepared to go to Stormont tomorrow morning and get on
:04:15. > :04:19.with the is business that needs to be done. There are issues that
:04:20. > :04:24.people want us to deal with. We would encourage parties to... Would
:04:25. > :04:31.not change anything that was going on before? It had its difficulties.
:04:32. > :04:36.But it is working better than having ten months of doing nothing in terms
:04:37. > :04:39.of dealing with issues. As a consequence of that, there are
:04:40. > :04:44.issues about health and education that are not being dealt with,
:04:45. > :04:46.social housing, projects that should be starting in terms of
:04:47. > :04:50.infrastructure that are not starting. This is ten months of
:04:51. > :04:55.paralysis brought about by one party is not good for Northern Ireland,
:04:56. > :05:03.not good for the people of Northern Ireland... Does not take two parties
:05:04. > :05:07.to cause paralysis? All of the other parties would be willing
:05:08. > :05:14.participants if we would get rid of these red lines. I will let you come
:05:15. > :05:19.back on that in a moment. But is that how you see it? Where there is
:05:20. > :05:24.consensus, the DUP have brought us at this point in terms of their
:05:25. > :05:31.failure to grasp the two consensus among whom? One party is keeping us
:05:32. > :05:38.here. It will take political will, and that is what we have heard. One
:05:39. > :05:43.party Brodeur said, the DUP, and one party is keeping us here, the Sinn
:05:44. > :05:49.Fein, is that what you mean? Not everybody has the same identity, and
:05:50. > :05:54.that is a large part in recent years. People have not seen the
:05:55. > :05:57.value of devolution but if the political will is there, we don't
:05:58. > :06:02.know what the sticking points are because this ten months negotiation
:06:03. > :06:09.has happened largely behind closed doors. The fact is, it has to work
:06:10. > :06:14.because it is the only show in town. Direct rule will not solve any of
:06:15. > :06:18.our problems and devolution and the institutions of the Good Friday
:06:19. > :06:22.Agreement, the relationships here, nobody has come up with a better
:06:23. > :06:26.idea. It has to be made to work. We have overcome bigger challenges with
:06:27. > :06:31.people putting their own specific goals to one side and focusing on
:06:32. > :06:37.the common goals. We have done more challenging things than this before
:06:38. > :06:42.and we have do. Argue part of this consensus that it is the DUP's
:06:43. > :06:47.fault? No. For the last ten months, we have been going around and around
:06:48. > :06:50.again. How many times have people heard the same arguments from
:06:51. > :06:56.politicians, back and forth, it is them and us, we need to do this and
:06:57. > :06:58.that. In the last ten years, I will Northern Ireland government has
:06:59. > :07:08.failed. What we are doing is not working. Sinn Fein and the DUP are
:07:09. > :07:14.as bad as each other. They are not getting anything done. We need to
:07:15. > :07:17.move on. We are 20 years on from the Good Friday Agreement and we need to
:07:18. > :07:24.try something else. It is not sustainable. I have no faith
:07:25. > :07:26.whatsoever that Sinn Fein have any interest in getting the Northern
:07:27. > :07:31.Ireland government back up and running. The real issue here is we
:07:32. > :07:35.need to move and try and do something else. That is why we as
:07:36. > :07:39.the Ulster Unionist Party are pushing strongly and we need to
:07:40. > :07:43.start thinking about voluntary coalition is because he can't keep
:07:44. > :07:51.on doing this year in, year out. There is another solution. Please!
:07:52. > :07:56.We would call on the British government to legislate in
:07:57. > :08:02.Westminster for the reform of petitions of concern. That would
:08:03. > :08:13.only come once there was an Assembly. No, because it is in their
:08:14. > :08:19.entitlement to legislate. There would need to be a point in doing
:08:20. > :08:24.that. Just to stick to the question. But this is relevant to the
:08:25. > :08:36.question. It is not in my view at the moment. I will take it back to
:08:37. > :08:40.John O'Dowd. I want you to come back on the point from both the Unionist
:08:41. > :08:43.parties that you do not want to come back into the Northern Ireland
:08:44. > :08:47.government. We see it as a way of amending and building relationships
:08:48. > :08:52.on this island. It is an integral part of what Sinn Fein believes in.
:08:53. > :08:56.One thing we haven't tried, and Steve says we have failed in this
:08:57. > :09:00.last ten or 20 years was at the DUP and others have failed to increment
:09:01. > :09:10.the Good Friday Agreement. We should now increment that -- implement
:09:11. > :09:16.that. They are moving further and further away from the Good Friday
:09:17. > :09:22.Agreement. Any notion of voluntary coalition will exclude Sinn Fein. It
:09:23. > :09:35.is the largest nationalist party in this part of the Ireland. You will
:09:36. > :09:38.never exclude that party again. Who said anything about excluding the
:09:39. > :09:52.nationalist party? When did he say that? It is all about sidelining
:09:53. > :09:54.Sinn Fein. We need to be talking about voluntary coalition, it needs
:09:55. > :10:03.to have community support. What is wrong with that? We are the major...
:10:04. > :10:09.How could you include a scratch -- how could you exclude us? You can't
:10:10. > :10:15.pick and choose. If we don't have strand one, internal elation ships
:10:16. > :10:23.in the institutions, and strand to with relationships between North and
:10:24. > :10:28.South... Let's do the audience. I feel it is still going to fail.
:10:29. > :10:32.Since the Good Friday Agreement, you have failed. There are schools
:10:33. > :10:37.closing, people waiting for cancer treatment. What you should do is
:10:38. > :10:40.strip the model back and look at the Scandinavian model of democracy,
:10:41. > :10:47.which is viewed as the most successful model. You have failed
:10:48. > :10:51.and I can't understand why as citizens we are so passive to this.
:10:52. > :10:56.In any other part of the world, we would be demonstrating. People are
:10:57. > :11:02.dying. Thank you, sir. People are waiting. We will come to all of
:11:03. > :11:05.those topics. For union is, we have reached out to Sinn Fein and they
:11:06. > :11:13.take, take, take. In terms of the Irish anguish, there is no reason
:11:14. > :11:19.why it should stop us from going forward. You could sort all this
:11:20. > :11:28.out. In terms of the Irish language, the Good Friday Agreement is clear,
:11:29. > :11:36.I don't see why there is a hold-up. Sinn Fein can't talk about equality
:11:37. > :11:44.because the DUP are no longer the majority in the Assembly. These
:11:45. > :11:51.reasons are no excuse for holding up the Government. Thank you. We no
:11:52. > :11:57.longer need the legacy parties to negotiate an hour -- on our behalf.
:11:58. > :12:02.We can have normal democratic politics with normal democratic
:12:03. > :12:06.hearties. For example, the Northern Ireland Conservatives.
:12:07. > :12:12.LAUGHTER Didn't win in the yellow tie here.
:12:13. > :12:19.-- the gentleman in the yellow tie. Everyone says that the DUP has no
:12:20. > :12:26.red lines. In my opinion, the DUP has a red light, which is no Irish
:12:27. > :12:31.land which. Give Northern Ireland and Irish land which act and let's
:12:32. > :12:37.get this show on the road again. Let's get storm and running. This
:12:38. > :12:40.guy is not going to fall and the bosses will not break down on the
:12:41. > :12:44.roads if we have an Irish ten two act.
:12:45. > :12:55.-- and Irish language act. Clearly you have no objection to the
:12:56. > :12:59.language. Why not have an act and get us on a level footing with
:13:00. > :13:15.Scotland and Wales. We are relaxed about all of these issues. You are
:13:16. > :13:17.happy to have an Irish language act? Arlene Foster said they can start
:13:18. > :13:23.the Assembly straight away and have a form of timescale with dealing
:13:24. > :13:29.with issues and talks. We could have been dealing with health and cancer
:13:30. > :13:34.and education, justice and all of these things. The SDLP rejected it.
:13:35. > :13:39.Sinn Fein rejected it. Let's get on with the job. We will happily do
:13:40. > :13:46.legislation but it will not be the Irish language act legislation that
:13:47. > :13:52.has been set aside. That type of legislation would be unacceptable,
:13:53. > :13:57.expensive and respiratory against many people in Northern Ireland. Why
:13:58. > :14:07.do you insist on a stand-alone act? Why not have something along the
:14:08. > :14:14.lines which the DUP are suggesting? I will not start negotiating on air.
:14:15. > :14:20.Just elucidate the principle. I am seeking the same rights as every
:14:21. > :14:33.other British citizens in this island. In Wales or Scotland, you
:14:34. > :14:39.have equal marriage and Lang which rights. I am looking to have
:14:40. > :14:46.citizens having equal rights as they do across the rest of the islands.
:14:47. > :14:53.We have do make these institutions sustainable. We have do increment
:14:54. > :15:00.the principals. -- implement. Interesting that we talk about the
:15:01. > :15:09.Irish language act. We don't need one. The Irish language act, what do
:15:10. > :15:14.you want to have in it? Mark Sheen said to me, let's get the act and we
:15:15. > :15:19.will negotiate what happens in it afterwards. I said to him, what have
:15:20. > :15:26.you got against the Scottish system, which is a rights -based approach?
:15:27. > :15:33.We have to have an Irish language act and then negotiate what will be
:15:34. > :15:37.in it. Nobody knows what they are talking about it behind-the-scenes.
:15:38. > :15:41.No information has been released. How bad could it be question market
:15:42. > :15:45.is putting yourself on the same footing as everyone else in the
:15:46. > :15:59.United Kingdom. It isn't, because we don't know what is in it. To have
:16:00. > :16:02.our places defined by road signs. Is that how we want Northern Ireland to
:16:03. > :16:08.be seen going forward? What is wrong with recognising the Irish land
:16:09. > :16:18.which as it is, what is wrong... ? Don't hide it away. He is talking
:16:19. > :16:23.about the fact of the order that language is will appear on signs. I
:16:24. > :16:29.you might like to change the size about? I don't mind what order they
:16:30. > :16:33.come in. What he is talking about... Some people don't want them at all
:16:34. > :16:39.in Irish. What they want to do is hide the language away. It is not
:16:40. > :16:42.using public, but it is OK in Northern Ireland. That is not where
:16:43. > :16:47.we are at as a society. There significant people using the
:16:48. > :16:51.language on a daily basis. There are thousands of people being taught
:16:52. > :16:55.through Irish and there are more every year. The Irish language
:16:56. > :17:06.should be open, transparent and part of our society. It is a shame that
:17:07. > :17:14.Sinn Fein have politicised a language. Where should Irish be in
:17:15. > :17:17.the pantheon? I think we could have an Irish language act as a
:17:18. > :17:22.stand-alone act but what Steve did say about Sinn Fein not saying what
:17:23. > :17:26.is in the act until we get it, we actually discussed that on the floor
:17:27. > :17:33.of the assembly. If we had an assembly. But for us in the Alliance
:17:34. > :17:36.party it is not an Red Line issue because we don't think public
:17:37. > :17:40.services should be dwarfed by the red line issues but we think that we
:17:41. > :17:43.should set aside these until we get into the assembly but have
:17:44. > :17:47.meaningful and proper respect for discussion and if we do get the
:17:48. > :17:53.reform with the petition of concern we can easily solve, easily solve
:17:54. > :17:57.the Irish language act, we can solve marriage equality if we just ensure
:17:58. > :18:06.we have that respectful debate. The gentleman in the suit. I would like
:18:07. > :18:11.to ask Edwin if he could explain in explicit terms what it is that the
:18:12. > :18:18.DUP cannot agree to with Sinn Fein, since he's said that Sinn Fein
:18:19. > :18:25.demands are the barriers to get the government back. The man in the
:18:26. > :18:30.back. My folks are in Hong Kong and have Cantonese, Mandarin, are
:18:31. > :18:37.English to match and outlives all the time. I speak Chinese and French
:18:38. > :18:47.and English and I'm learning Irish. Doesn't make me less of a person
:18:48. > :18:51.dart very good point! I don't it make you to negotiate an air but
:18:52. > :19:00.let's get an idea of the stumbling blocks. One of the red lines with
:19:01. > :19:12.the Irish language, when you looked at what was being proposed, totally
:19:13. > :19:16.unacceptable. The issue about signage, non-Irish speakers, whether
:19:17. > :19:21.it should be right based, and if it is writes space to bend court will
:19:22. > :19:24.interpret that, cost imposed upon the government as a result and money
:19:25. > :19:31.stripped away from health and education to be is spent on the
:19:32. > :19:37.Irish language. It was figured out that it would be 2 million a year
:19:38. > :19:43.for five years, past ?9 million for the infrastructure. The DUP said
:19:44. > :19:51.that was fair apparently. The civil service have rubbished those figures
:19:52. > :19:55.to us. A set of figures have been bought up, and in a ?10 billion
:19:56. > :20:03.budget eyes and large but the civil service has rubbished them. -- isn't
:20:04. > :20:09.large but have been rubbished. I certainly haven't heard any civil
:20:10. > :20:13.servant rubbishing those figures. Will you both publish what are the
:20:14. > :20:21.sticking points? Feel free to check our website. This is daily reading,
:20:22. > :20:28.the SDLP website. It is something the SDLP have tried twice to bring
:20:29. > :20:32.forward. So is cancer waiting times, a rights issue, so our kids making
:20:33. > :20:40.sure not doing five exams. Those are all right this use and parties pick
:20:41. > :20:48.issues they know will cleave a long community background, and sectarian
:20:49. > :20:53.eyes. The point is we don't have do have one or the aria... Are you
:20:54. > :21:00.prepared to go back on the Executive in the absence of the Irish line
:21:01. > :21:06.would act? This is not now. Claire hasn't accepted this position. This
:21:07. > :21:10.is the thing, one will pick an issue and the other will oblige and divide
:21:11. > :21:18.them and they know that they can't do this... The SDLP for the last
:21:19. > :21:22.election dart can I do say I don't understand how we can acquit Ulster
:21:23. > :21:25.Scots to the Irish language. We had domination in this part of the
:21:26. > :21:34.island and 50 years, not thing believe one thing was done about. I
:21:35. > :21:40.do understand why it's an issue now. I wasn't born at the time so I can't
:21:41. > :21:45.fully commented but... Ulster Scots was never, ever put to the
:21:46. > :21:55.forefront, never legislated on, so why are Sinn Fein and many others
:21:56. > :21:58.bringing up the Irish language, and Ulster Scots, and it is the typical
:21:59. > :22:07.tit-for-tat we see in the country. The point is indirect rule... We
:22:08. > :22:13.won't get an act. APPLAUSE What is your party position? Excuse
:22:14. > :22:26.me! Lesson! I'm tragic yet the audience involved. -- I'm trying to
:22:27. > :22:29.get them involved. I think we have wasted a ridiculous the money paying
:22:30. > :22:36.you all to do nothing over the last ten months. We have been talking
:22:37. > :22:43.about the budget. APPLAUSE The gentleman over there. Nuala was
:22:44. > :22:50.right earlier talking about the position of concerns. I would like
:22:51. > :22:58.to ask John if he would try to resolve those. Gentleman here in the
:22:59. > :23:04.blue shirt. All I have heard from you is about the St Andrews
:23:05. > :23:08.agreement will stop John. We haven't heard a single Irish language act.
:23:09. > :23:19.Section 15, the St Andrews agreement... This is what it says.
:23:20. > :23:23.I'll read it. Quickly! 20 A:D.. Strategies related to the Irish Lang
:23:24. > :23:27.Jack and the Ulster Scots baggage. The Executive committee shall adapt
:23:28. > :23:31.a strategy. We don't have time to read it out. At I shall make it
:23:32. > :23:36.short. Two sections you keep talking about in the St Andrews act, two
:23:37. > :23:40.sections, one from the Loris language act, to the Ulster Scots
:23:41. > :23:45.act, so please stop taking the money that we pay you, get in the assembly
:23:46. > :23:51.can get rid of your veto and then sits down and discuss the Irish
:23:52. > :23:56.language act. And the Scots act. We must move on. Lots to get through
:23:57. > :24:02.tonight. Another question from Banga. What should special status
:24:03. > :24:09.really mean for Northern Ireland in the context of budget negotiations?
:24:10. > :24:14.Jeremy, you might be jumping that gun. We don't have a indication of
:24:15. > :24:21.special status yet. It is talked about certainly, something needs to
:24:22. > :24:24.be done about the border so special status, John, something Sinn Fein is
:24:25. > :24:28.keen on so what does that look like from your point of view? We had to
:24:29. > :24:34.remain in the single European market, and the customs union. Also
:24:35. > :24:37.in terms of giving the number of European citizens that live in this
:24:38. > :24:41.part of the world they should also be represented in the European
:24:42. > :24:46.Parliament and occasional presentation if we get the Executive
:24:47. > :24:50.running, for the Executive ministers are presented in the various
:24:51. > :24:55.elements of European structures accessed. Those are the broad thrust
:24:56. > :25:01.of designated special status. I think it is possible. Basically
:25:02. > :25:06.ignoring Brexit. I would like to. But you can't. You are right. It
:25:07. > :25:12.will have a significant detrimental effect on the island economy. Report
:25:13. > :25:16.after report points to that. We have set forward a proposal which we
:25:17. > :25:21.believe recognises the Democratic wishes of the people here,
:25:22. > :25:23.recognises the Good Friday Agreement, recognises our
:25:24. > :25:28.circumstances and allows us to continue free trade and an economy
:25:29. > :25:33.across the island of Ireland, and an economy and free movement of people
:25:34. > :25:36.and trade... So free movement of people and goods and services
:25:37. > :25:42.throughout the island of Ireland, and therefore into the United
:25:43. > :25:45.Kingdom. The United Kingdom is an important trading partner with us,
:25:46. > :25:54.no one wants to turn back on them. That's our proposal. Steve? I think
:25:55. > :25:58.what we are looking at and what is negotiated in Brussels at the moment
:25:59. > :26:06.is a tone of special status and what we need is 86% of the trade in goods
:26:07. > :26:10.and actual staff between the Republic of Ireland and the United
:26:11. > :26:14.Kingdom, all six 5 million euros of it, staying on this island. And what
:26:15. > :26:19.we should do is move towards a new Anglo-Irish Treaty that makes it all
:26:20. > :26:23.a free-trade zone on these islands, and it can be done. Because that
:26:24. > :26:29.sort of innovative solution we look for, and in case anybody thinks it
:26:30. > :26:32.is... Said the EU has to give you very special status. But they are
:26:33. > :26:39.already talking about that. The key issue here is looking at it, you say
:26:40. > :26:43.they are talking about it, they say they are talking about being
:26:44. > :26:47.imaginative not just special unique status fully Republic of Ireland in
:26:48. > :26:51.the free-trade. There are already discussions going on at the moment
:26:52. > :26:57.in Brussels about how do is you are the 65 billion euros worth of trade
:26:58. > :27:00.a year continuing, and the key is the agricultural business centre,
:27:01. > :27:06.and because they were robbing of Ireland, 66 divide percent of the
:27:07. > :27:09.work public Ireland business sector is in the United Kingdom and if
:27:10. > :27:13.there are barriers put up and particularly tariffs and
:27:14. > :27:20.regulations, but if they are barriers put up the entire Irish
:27:21. > :27:24.agri- business sector is going to collapse and that is in nobody 's
:27:25. > :27:30.interest. So behind the scenes there are discussions going about the all
:27:31. > :27:41.Ireland steal. -- deal. That means no hard soft or wet borders. And
:27:42. > :27:45.that is very doable. APPLAUSE I do agree, and we do believe in
:27:46. > :27:48.alliance that there is a unique situation for Northern Ireland
:27:49. > :27:52.because it is central to us, sharing, interdependence, and what
:27:53. > :27:55.Brexit does is it creates more division, it creates more barriers
:27:56. > :27:58.and so for my generation in particular, the millennial
:27:59. > :28:02.generation, I see many in the audience tonight and we grew up in
:28:03. > :28:06.the post-Good Friday agreement era, the world is more connected, and we
:28:07. > :28:11.need to ensure that in Northern Ireland we do not go back, we don't
:28:12. > :28:14.go backwards, meaning that not only for society, our economy, too. We
:28:15. > :28:20.believe the UK should remain part of the customs union and the unique
:28:21. > :28:23.situation should be applied to Northern Ireland, and all Ireland
:28:24. > :28:26.opposed to the agri- food industry, 10% of our career and we need to
:28:27. > :28:30.protect people across the border every day, or cross the border twice
:28:31. > :28:34.a day to carry out their business. Lots some people are saying that
:28:35. > :28:38.stopped before it is and this is what Michel Barnier has been saying
:28:39. > :28:41.is we need gone grey proposals of how to that could be achieved and
:28:42. > :28:46.keep everyone safe and secure. We can't get those concrete proposals
:28:47. > :28:51.if we don't have an executive, if we don't have some sort of unity
:28:52. > :28:56.speaking... Have you got proposals? We do, we have already put forward
:28:57. > :28:59.many. We are meeting businesses every single day with community
:29:00. > :29:03.organisations every single day to ask what they cannot do outside the
:29:04. > :29:07.European Union and what we can do to ensure that Northern Ireland can.
:29:08. > :29:12.Doesn't sound like you got concrete proposals. Let me bring in the
:29:13. > :29:15.audience. I don't think we should shy away from words like special
:29:16. > :29:21.status, lots of countries outside the EU has special arrangements with
:29:22. > :29:28.Edgar Manso do countries inside stop -- and so do countries inside. There
:29:29. > :29:32.needs to be a special status for people in the United Kingdom even if
:29:33. > :29:36.there is no deal. It is up for negotiation to do that and it is not
:29:37. > :29:39.go to be catastrophic for Northern Ireland. Edwin me you have set you a
:29:40. > :29:48.hard against the special status. Why? In terms of the British GB
:29:49. > :29:52.market, it takes over 60% of Northern Ireland good exports, and
:29:53. > :29:58.therefore we won't have some sort of Seeboard, between them and the
:29:59. > :30:01.single market, and so we look and focuses towards the UK market first
:30:02. > :30:09.and foremost, our most important market. 90% of global growth
:30:10. > :30:13.recognised by the European Union bree recognised outside the UK. I
:30:14. > :30:20.want the UK to negotiate those deals with those other countries, to put
:30:21. > :30:22.Northern Ireland in the frame where we can trade internationally. That
:30:23. > :30:29.approach ignores the Irish border issue. How does that factor into
:30:30. > :30:32.your thoughts? To Reza may brought forward bezels and Europe rejected
:30:33. > :30:41.them. Those proposals were sensible but they were rejected by Europe.
:30:42. > :30:44.Europe are seeking to be punitive in terms of how they deal with the
:30:45. > :30:50.United Kingdom because they don't want people to leave it. They need
:30:51. > :30:56.to respect the people of the United Kingdom. How does that affect the
:30:57. > :31:01.border? They need to be bad to let the British and Irish government
:31:02. > :31:06.have their border, they don't want a customs border, Europe needs... You
:31:07. > :31:11.might not call it special status but it is. Europe needs to respect that.
:31:12. > :31:16.We have brought forward sensible prizes and I urged them to look
:31:17. > :31:20.again at them in Europe. I think those proposals were far from
:31:21. > :31:25.sensible. Special status, I don't care what you call it if people have
:31:26. > :31:29.set their face against that concept. I want maximum access to Europe as
:31:30. > :31:34.much as we can get and yes we respect the vote to leave, although
:31:35. > :31:37.leaving the single market and the customs union wasn't on the ballot
:31:38. > :31:40.bed and many people were told that they wouldn't have to do that but
:31:41. > :31:44.the fact, and the businessman who asked the question was assuming we
:31:45. > :31:46.were getting special status because it is necessary and inevitable, and
:31:47. > :31:53.there are special status is across Europe for others. It is basically
:31:54. > :31:57.doubling down. We aren't worried? We will be fine? In a matter of course
:31:58. > :32:04.we are worried, there are no zombie reposes du Dai here, we are
:32:05. > :32:08.increasing the chance that we are going to crash out. It is vital that
:32:09. > :32:16.we fight for it. We use the Good Friday Agreement, double down, we
:32:17. > :32:19.have double citizenship, we can be European and non-European, and there
:32:20. > :32:23.are lots of structures across the island, the likes of a border bank
:32:24. > :32:26.and if we had misused the Good Friday Agreement we would see it as
:32:27. > :32:31.a solution but it is absolutely vital and as has been said, and as
:32:32. > :32:36.has been said in Europe do we need to ask for it, we can't let Brexit
:32:37. > :32:40.wash over us. Arguing about it is not as important as Brexit.
:32:41. > :32:45.Just one of your points there. The important thing is the transition
:32:46. > :32:50.period being as long as possible. I think two years is too short. The
:32:51. > :32:53.closer we get to five years, it will be better for everybody on these
:32:54. > :33:06.islands to get the best deal possible. Europe at the moment, I
:33:07. > :33:17.have been in Brussels fairly recently, the UK offered 20 billion,
:33:18. > :33:20.and the EU wants 60 billion, and the result will be about 40 billion.
:33:21. > :33:40.Once that prices paid, we will get the next stage. Jeremy, just to come
:33:41. > :33:44.back, but ... My proposal is simply the goods that originate in the UK
:33:45. > :33:49.as their country of origin should be Gareth free in the Republic only,
:33:50. > :33:53.and the goods that originate in the Republic should be tariff free in
:33:54. > :33:57.the UK. That is a very, very supporting to legislate. It doesn't
:33:58. > :34:02.get over the practical difficulties which are not insubstantial about
:34:03. > :34:04.having to track things, but it puts both sides on a reasonably good
:34:05. > :34:10.level playing field and that is what we need. It would be easy to do.
:34:11. > :34:13.Thank you. We will move on. The third question comes from a student
:34:14. > :34:20.from Newcastle. There is a serious lack of provision
:34:21. > :34:24.in our hospital. How will you fix our problems with waiting lists? We
:34:25. > :34:31.had these figures showing the worst of every area for our targets,
:34:32. > :34:35.including waiting lists. The Nuffield Trust said that things like
:34:36. > :34:39.ageing population, high expectations and better technology and more
:34:40. > :34:48.procedures are making us like further behind. 30,000 waiting for
:34:49. > :34:53.admission to hospital, 10,000 per year. I can read out a long list of
:34:54. > :34:59.statistics will stop our system is not fit for purpose, is it? The
:35:00. > :35:08.system needs reform and I recognise that from many years ago. Many
:35:09. > :35:11.parties who but up their hands to support it whenever it was brought
:35:12. > :35:16.forward then started to object to it when it was being applied. As did
:35:17. > :35:18.the trade unions and many people in the media. Every time we did
:35:19. > :35:24.something, you were told it was going to be disastrous when all
:35:25. > :35:38.other health professionals were saying it was what was needed. You
:35:39. > :35:43.are right, we do need reform. When I was health minister back in 2013,
:35:44. > :35:47.the waiting lists have almost doubled since that period of time. I
:35:48. > :35:52.was getting hugely criticised for waiting lists them. That
:35:53. > :36:02.demonstrates the problem. I would say that those problems started when
:36:03. > :36:09.ever Sinn Fein decided that reform is more important than... There have
:36:10. > :36:13.been reports for 20 years on reforming our Health Service. We
:36:14. > :36:17.were bringing waiting lists down. As a consequence, waiting lists started
:36:18. > :36:23.to go the wrong way and they have been going the wrong way ever since.
:36:24. > :36:26.We have had no minister for months and waiting lists are completely out
:36:27. > :36:30.of control. We need a Stormont back and we need to deal with these
:36:31. > :36:36.issues. All of the parties need to come together on health and start
:36:37. > :36:40.playing politics. I wanted to do something that was criticised for
:36:41. > :36:46.it. We actually stood back and allowed their health blister to get
:36:47. > :36:50.on with the job. They need to do their job. Close hospitals and
:36:51. > :36:55.things like that? Listen to the health fashion was as to the best
:36:56. > :37:00.way of doing it. Some hospitals might be better at providing chronic
:37:01. > :37:05.care and others might be better at providing current care. The first
:37:06. > :37:11.thing I would not do is handed over to the Tories under direct rule.
:37:12. > :37:15.People run size what direct rule will be doing. If you see what
:37:16. > :37:19.Jeremy Hunt is doing to the NHS in England, that is the last thing we
:37:20. > :37:23.want. One statistic today, 64,000 people waiting in Northern Ireland
:37:24. > :37:28.for a year for an outpatient appointment. That is a quarter of
:37:29. > :37:32.the people on the waiting list, for more than a year. In England, only
:37:33. > :37:37.1500 people on a waiting list for more than a year. They have 30 times
:37:38. > :37:41.the population but only 2% of the numbers that we have on a waiting
:37:42. > :37:46.list. The Tories attempted to be doing too badly in that sense.
:37:47. > :37:49.That's fine if you want to hand it over. The fact is, having an
:37:50. > :37:54.Executive will not be a silver bullet. Walking off from the job
:37:55. > :38:00.without securing a budget led to those cuts that went in last month
:38:01. > :38:03.that the role is to staff and worry people. The fact is we have an
:38:04. > :38:10.unprecedented level of political consensus. In the Assembly in the
:38:11. > :38:14.dying days, there was an agreement across the parties to take the
:38:15. > :38:18.politics out of hell. It doesn't need to take health out of politics
:38:19. > :38:24.altogether, it is not TB will not take -- it does not mean we will not
:38:25. > :38:28.talk about it. Both of these parties promised last May 1 billion for
:38:29. > :38:33.health over the next mandate. We were told in the Tory deal that
:38:34. > :38:36.there is 250 million for transformation there. The plans are
:38:37. > :38:41.there, we are told the money is there. We just need somebody to
:38:42. > :38:47.drive it. Can you address the question of why we seem to be worse
:38:48. > :38:52.at it in England? I don't have figures are covered for Scotland and
:38:53. > :38:56.Wales. Scotland is slightly worse than us and Wales is a lot worse
:38:57. > :39:03.than us. It depends on the regions. Regionally, it changes a lot. As an
:39:04. > :39:06.MMA, I've been reading the report and going through it and talking to
:39:07. > :39:10.a lot of health care professionals because I don't understand why
:39:11. > :39:13.Northern Ireland outcomes are so bad. It comes down to one of a lot
:39:14. > :39:17.of reasons. One of the things we need to do is to stop talking about
:39:18. > :39:22.it, stop doing reports and get on with it. We need, through
:39:23. > :39:26.transformation, to set up a delivery mechanism make it happen. Let's
:39:27. > :39:30.explain what you mean by transformation. If you look at the
:39:31. > :39:36.report, we need to move our health system and change how we do it.
:39:37. > :39:39.Luckily enough, we're living longer. But we also have differing health
:39:40. > :39:43.outcomes which means that what we are going to have to do increasingly
:39:44. > :39:48.is that to preventative measures and look to early intervention. What we
:39:49. > :39:53.will have to do is specialise in particular areas. Yes, it may be
:39:54. > :39:59.difficult but it is not about shutting down buildings and
:40:00. > :40:04.whatever, it is about key staff. Our staff are completely demoralised.
:40:05. > :40:10.Our hospital workers are completely dim or lies. They have had their pay
:40:11. > :40:13.capped. We need to get morale back in the Health Service and we also
:40:14. > :40:21.need to get on with transformation. That means we need to make... We
:40:22. > :40:26.have five health trusts. Wider we have 54 a population of 1.8 million?
:40:27. > :40:28.Why not have another delivery organisation to start getting on
:40:29. > :40:33.with transformation? It will take five or ten years. A lot of
:40:34. > :40:36.politicians think there is a magic bullet out there, but there isn't.
:40:37. > :40:42.It will take a decade to transport health but we need to get started.
:40:43. > :40:48.The only way we will do that is to have a Northern Ireland Executive up
:40:49. > :40:53.and running and do it now. Can you improve Health Service where Ralph
:40:54. > :41:00.before transformation? I think you can. You can get the Executive to
:41:01. > :41:06.talk about England and Wales and Scotland, that issue. In England,
:41:07. > :41:10.there are more specialised and local care and they are devolved to local
:41:11. > :41:15.government so a lot of bureaucracy is taken out of it. We need that
:41:16. > :41:19.transformation, but it goes hand-in-hand with the Executive.
:41:20. > :41:25.That does not mean we will not have any more waiting lists, decisions
:41:26. > :41:31.still need to be made. What we do not have is that centre focused on
:41:32. > :41:35.where the specialist focus should be. We're not health care
:41:36. > :41:41.professionals, we do not know best, but the professionals have told us
:41:42. > :41:45.what is best for people in Northern Ireland and we need to listen to
:41:46. > :41:55.them. We also need to get off of the not in my back garden, I know that
:41:56. > :41:59.there are protests about plans taking their whenever it came from
:42:00. > :42:02.your party as well. We all have our own difficulties with that. We need
:42:03. > :42:05.to agree that we will not go off into our silos and we will put what
:42:06. > :42:19.is needed for health first. Go ahead, sir. I have a question for Mr
:42:20. > :42:24.-- for Mr Edwin Poots. There is currently no health department up
:42:25. > :42:27.and active in this country because there is no agreement with Sinn Fein
:42:28. > :42:31.and in that affect you and your party partly responsible for the
:42:32. > :42:35.current health situation. What is that if not playing politics with
:42:36. > :42:45.health? The gentleman down the front again. Does the former health
:42:46. > :42:55.minister not feel guilt regarding nurse's wages? John O'Dowd, we had
:42:56. > :43:02.figures quoted last week, you need 80 million a year for for five
:43:03. > :43:14.years, plus as formation. How will that happen? The figures you have
:43:15. > :43:20.quoted I find interesting. The headline I saw was dying while
:43:21. > :43:23.waiting for a nebulous. Four the main trusts in England, their Chief
:43:24. > :43:30.Executive Sir said that they are heading back to 1999 waiting list
:43:31. > :43:32.scales. What is the common denominator? The Health Service in
:43:33. > :43:38.England is starved of funding and our Health Service is starved of
:43:39. > :43:42.funding. I hear the course for a return to the Executive. I have seen
:43:43. > :43:45.the budget for the next two years and it is frightening, absolutely
:43:46. > :43:50.frightening. The Executive if it does return will have serious, hard,
:43:51. > :43:56.difficult decisions to make. Our Health Service, we did promise ?200
:43:57. > :43:59.million a year and we did deliver that when the Executive was running.
:44:00. > :44:03.But that will be insufficient to deal with the pressures on our
:44:04. > :44:13.Health Service and it comes back to this. The Tories are starving our
:44:14. > :44:16.public services are of funding. And the Executive being back is a good
:44:17. > :44:24.thing but it will not solve all of the problems. What will direct rule
:44:25. > :44:28.due to help that? May I remind you, you fought the last election and
:44:29. > :44:37.note Executive without a rights... Whitey want to bring everything
:44:38. > :44:45.down... You are them they can manage the big picture? That's all Sinn
:44:46. > :44:51.Fein have said. I am being honest with people. But are any of those
:44:52. > :45:01.more important than handing over direct rule? England or Scotland or
:45:02. > :45:04.Wales have language act and a Health Service was up they have equal
:45:05. > :45:12.marriage and a Health Service would do not be bought up by this cry you
:45:13. > :45:20.-- by those who want back into the Executive. The Executive will not be
:45:21. > :45:26.able to resolve the issues. The last programme for government despite all
:45:27. > :45:39.of the papers, we tried to negotiate. Why did you rebuff? Did
:45:40. > :45:48.you think the legislation...? I would like to go back to the comedy
:45:49. > :45:56.made. I am a paramedic and I people every day, like people lying on the
:45:57. > :45:59.floor and dying for ten hours -- lying on the floor for ten hours and
:46:00. > :46:04.dying because they cannot get an ambulance. You work involved in a
:46:05. > :46:08.closure of a hospital. There was no investment in the Ambulance Service
:46:09. > :46:15.for top the cuts still came to the Ambulance Service. Do you feel
:46:16. > :46:25.guilty about any of that? You have got the wrong minister. You were
:46:26. > :46:29.involved in it as well. I was the minister after that. In terms of the
:46:30. > :46:34.Ambulance Service and all of these things, the DUP negotiated to get
:46:35. > :46:42.250 million additional four health. 50 million for reform, more for
:46:43. > :46:46.health. Could we not do with getting that money? We will only get that
:46:47. > :46:52.money either through an Executive or through direct rule. We need to get
:46:53. > :46:56.some movement on that issue and get down the 50 million set aside for
:46:57. > :47:01.mental health, a massive issue in this country. John believes that
:47:02. > :47:05.other issues are more reported than health. I have to say that I think
:47:06. > :47:07.health trumps the issues that John is talking about. We will leave it
:47:08. > :47:21.there. Thank you. Now to the next question. Penny. If
:47:22. > :47:29.abortionists are such a controversial issue, why don't we
:47:30. > :47:39.let the public debate it? It went to the Supreme Court in London today to
:47:40. > :47:48.try whether the law in Northern Ireland was against human rights.
:47:49. > :47:55.There are two sides do the argument but the Supreme Court today will
:47:56. > :47:59.decide why did we needed to go to the court, why couldn't Northern
:48:00. > :48:06.Ireland have its own view? It is going to the court, and first of all
:48:07. > :48:10.can I actually just say good luck to Angie and Christie, the women at the
:48:11. > :48:16.heart of the campaign, it's not easy for them to put themselves through
:48:17. > :48:28.this but I have such admiration for people. We shipped Sarah away, the
:48:29. > :48:32.woman with a Peters with a fatal if you. We have said that these women
:48:33. > :48:36.are not first class citizens and don't have equal rights so what we
:48:37. > :48:40.have in Northern Ireland parties who do not express comfort to these
:48:41. > :48:45.people, parties who say that we are for a quality but we won't let our
:48:46. > :48:50.members have freedom. We support equality when it comes to matters we
:48:51. > :48:53.believe in but when it comes to the women's fundamental right to choose,
:48:54. > :48:56.you can go to England and Wales because we don't want to deal with
:48:57. > :49:01.you here and I don't think that this is a society a fundamental success.
:49:02. > :49:04.It is ultimately wrong. Ball alliance it is a matter of
:49:05. > :49:11.conscience, it is right way for a giraffe Socratic party. I believe as
:49:12. > :49:14.a woman, personally, that the state should not interfere in the right of
:49:15. > :49:19.the woman to choose and we should respect the woman to choose without
:49:20. > :49:25.judgment and respect and help her here in Northern Ireland. APPLAUSE
:49:26. > :49:32.Is abortion part of the rights agenda for Sinn Fein? We aren't
:49:33. > :49:43.seeking the introduction of the 1967 act by any means but we do supports
:49:44. > :49:48.searching for places where women's health is at risk, and we do respect
:49:49. > :49:51.the Supreme Court. The assembly has thus far failed to protect women in
:49:52. > :49:55.the circumstances with fatal abnormalities. We have criminalise
:49:56. > :49:59.women for far too long in this regard. You will still do it if you
:50:00. > :50:05.don't decriminalise abortion. You will still do it if you only provide
:50:06. > :50:11.for it. All the parties will do it if we do not respect the women has a
:50:12. > :50:16.right to choose. Canada to clarify, Sinn Fein used to say it was not in
:50:17. > :50:21.favour of abortion. No, what I said was it is not in favour of the 1967
:50:22. > :50:27.act. Or extending the act do Northern Ireland. That was the party
:50:28. > :50:31.position if you years ago. I am not aware of that changing in recent
:50:32. > :50:36.years that we have always been cleared in the 1967 act should not
:50:37. > :50:40.be introduced here. It is right for women but as long as they have their
:50:41. > :50:46.abortions in England. No, in no way are we saying that. Women here
:50:47. > :50:49.should have the right to seek termination in circumstances of
:50:50. > :50:52.fatal fatal abnormality and circumstances of rape and sexual
:50:53. > :50:57.abuse and in circumstances where the woman's health is at risk, or the
:50:58. > :51:02.woman's life is at risk which is already the case. That is where our
:51:03. > :51:05.position. That isn't equality and bought a party that pays lip service
:51:06. > :51:13.to equality it is shameful that you think that this is a quality, it is
:51:14. > :51:16.not, it is a health care issue. The reason the referendum doesn't solve
:51:17. > :51:20.it as they say in the south is is because it is complex, it is not a
:51:21. > :51:24.yes or no answer because the legislation has to be decided and it
:51:25. > :51:29.is a legislation with people's deeply held beliefs and people's
:51:30. > :51:34.situation and people from our party we believe in life, we believe that
:51:35. > :51:37.life needs protection. Speaking personally and I have said this
:51:38. > :51:42.before we can't ignore and wish away the situation that people like Sarah
:51:43. > :51:45.Ewart are in and to buy Neary put it down between women's rights and a
:51:46. > :51:49.baby was right that is not a situation of right Les is right but
:51:50. > :51:53.a woman trying to do what is best for her baby and personally, this is
:51:54. > :52:02.a personal opinion, stigmatising her for that decision... Not a party
:52:03. > :52:05.position. No, it is not complex or fundamentalist, or misogynist do
:52:06. > :52:10.believe that there is a life there. It isn't convex or women who have to
:52:11. > :52:19.travel to England and Wales every single day. I accept your views.
:52:20. > :52:24.Bayard everybodyviews. We are forced to travel for abortion. If we were
:52:25. > :52:30.going to legislate, that is not the party view. The 1967 act is far
:52:31. > :52:34.outside of the parameters of most of the places in Europe. That is not
:52:35. > :52:38.what they are only finding in the south. It is the question of
:52:39. > :52:42.balancing views. What is your vision as opposed to your party but a
:52:43. > :52:48.vision? My point is that I am moved by Sarah Ewart's case. But a year
:52:49. > :52:51.and a half ago when the assembly decided to take soundings, get an
:52:52. > :52:56.expert report from clinicians who were supporting women, people who
:52:57. > :53:03.write legislation, looking at the human rights... You chose not to
:53:04. > :53:06.bring in abortion. It did vote to commission that research was
:53:07. > :53:12.shamefully that research hasn't been published. What is your position?
:53:13. > :53:18.What should women be able to do in Northern Ireland, should they have a
:53:19. > :53:26.abortion in case of fatal abnormality in Northern Ireland? In
:53:27. > :53:34.cerebral occasionally yes. What about rape and incest? Your party
:53:35. > :53:42.has tried to act framework for abortion. You approve of it in
:53:43. > :53:47.Northern Ireland for rape and incest and fatal faecal abnormality. Yes.
:53:48. > :54:05.Fatal faecal abnormality. Just to let you know, over 100,000
:54:06. > :54:15.lives have been saved by not extending the abortion act to
:54:16. > :54:20.Northern Ireland. I would like to ask John do you still believe in
:54:21. > :54:25.cherishing all the children of the nation equally and I would also like
:54:26. > :54:29.to say that it was the national Socialist German workers party that
:54:30. > :54:38.promoted the idea of life unworthy of life. Why must the state be the
:54:39. > :54:42.arbitrator in this disagreement? If you find the service than the
:54:43. > :54:47.individual still has the right to avail of that service or not avail
:54:48. > :54:51.of that service. Who protects the unborn child? Our party position is
:54:52. > :54:55.a matter of conscience. I am abundantly clear on the sea. I
:54:56. > :55:06.support abortion in the issues of the fatal foetal abnormality and
:55:07. > :55:13.crime. And I tell you why. I'm sure some of you have been to places in
:55:14. > :55:22.West Africa, Sudan, West Africa, where rape is used as a women leg
:55:23. > :55:26.weapon. -- it is used as a weapon. If one of my children was violated,
:55:27. > :55:34.one of my four daughters, a jihad to carry a child by rapist, I would
:55:35. > :55:38.support her donation of that child. 100%. It isn't a straightforward
:55:39. > :55:41.black and white issue. No matter what you may think will stop there
:55:42. > :55:45.are many things are many different things and I tell you what if you
:55:46. > :55:49.ever want to understand it, take yourself to Serbia or to Bosnia and
:55:50. > :55:55.talk to the women there that have had this issue forced upon them. Why
:55:56. > :56:07.not let the people of Northern Ireland decide? I would be happy to
:56:08. > :56:12.do it for them to be honest. Amnesty International is a supporter of this
:56:13. > :56:16.particular case and they came to the Justice committee of the assembly
:56:17. > :56:20.and they were questioned on their stance on abortion and believed that
:56:21. > :56:28.a termination of pregnancy should take place right up to the... Hold
:56:29. > :56:34.on. The cases being brought by the human rights commission! Date
:56:35. > :56:39.believed that a abortion could take place at to the point of birth. That
:56:40. > :56:44.is what is inhuman. It is absolutely wrong... That is not what we are
:56:45. > :56:55.talking about. That is not what we are talking about. It is murder one
:56:56. > :56:58.day and not the next. That is an ugly comment and you should simply
:56:59. > :57:06.not make comments like that. Six to the Supreme Court case. Fatal foetal
:57:07. > :57:09.abnormality and sexual crime. It is a comment made by Amnesty
:57:10. > :57:14.International representatives, I believe it is wrong and these
:57:15. > :57:18.organisations want to use... Address the specific issue, fatal foetal
:57:19. > :57:23.abnormality. I want them to use these hard cases to open the door.
:57:24. > :57:28.The government of California signed off on what he believed was tough
:57:29. > :57:32.legislation on abortion, his biggest regret, he said because it opens the
:57:33. > :57:38.door to abortion. We will have judges making decisions on our
:57:39. > :57:43.behalf because people and judicial cool Billy matter activism database
:57:44. > :57:50.on changes to the recession. There are abortions on the basis taken
:57:51. > :57:53.carefully in Northern Ireland. Some trusts choose to do it, some trusts
:57:54. > :58:04.chose not to under the same term will stop we can do many more things
:58:05. > :58:07.to protect the lives of the unborn. We are proudly people who stand for
:58:08. > :58:14.unborn children because they have a right to life will stop who stands
:58:15. > :58:23.for the woman? 8 million children have lost their lives in GB. No time
:58:24. > :58:24.for any more. A big thank you to the panel for their contributions and
:58:25. > :58:26.thank you for watching. A big thank you to our panel,
:58:27. > :58:30.to our studio audience, and, of course,
:58:31. > :58:32.to you at home for watching. You can continue the debate
:58:33. > :58:34.online, using #SpotlightNI Our next Spotlight Special
:58:35. > :58:36.will be on December 5th, so if you'd
:58:37. > :58:38.like to apply to be in the audience, you can email the programme -
:58:39. > :58:40.spotlightspecial@bbc.co.uk - or phone the ticket line
:58:41. > :58:42.on 0345 300 3080. From the Spotlight Special
:58:43. > :59:00.team, a very good night. Strictly is inviting you
:59:01. > :59:05.to a spooky special this week.