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:01:21. > :01:24.In the East Midlands: Calls for the entire board of a hospital trust to

:01:24. > :01:34.resign over botched breast cancer tests and thousands could lose out

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:01:34. > :37:50.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2176 seconds

:37:50. > :37:55.In the East Midlands, should the entire board of a health trust

:37:55. > :38:01.resign over mistakes over breast cancer tests? Do you know what's

:38:01. > :38:10.happening on November 15th? No, I don't. Know. No, he doesn't know

:38:10. > :38:15.either. My guess at this week are Mark Spencer and Chris Williamson.

:38:15. > :38:19.It is a hot topic, particularly here, how far can you go in

:38:19. > :38:24.defending your home and your family from burglars? The government has

:38:24. > :38:33.said it would change the law to give homeowners more protection. It

:38:33. > :38:38.follows this Leicester couple who protected at their home, and were

:38:38. > :38:44.released without charge. I have to ask you, you are a farmer, would

:38:44. > :38:50.use a gun if you had to defend your property and your family? What I

:38:50. > :38:53.would do, I would defend myself quite vigorously. I don't want to

:38:53. > :38:58.go through the process whether I am legally entitled to do this, or

:38:58. > :39:03.what I am a legally able to do to defend my family, I want to make

:39:03. > :39:09.sure they are safe. Who knows what you are going to think when you are

:39:09. > :39:13.woken up in the morning. You're in your pyjamas, frankly, you just

:39:13. > :39:19.want to defend your children and your wife. You don't want to think

:39:19. > :39:23.through a legal process. vigorously, if you have a gun?

:39:23. > :39:32.vigorously as it takes to make sure my family are safe. To be blunt, I

:39:32. > :39:37.would rather find myself in the dock and by their graveside.

:39:37. > :39:41.far would you go? This is a smokescreen by the government, the

:39:41. > :39:46.true days there has only been 11 prosecutions in the last 15 years

:39:46. > :39:52.where people have overstepped the mark. The Chief Justice has said

:39:52. > :40:02.powers are available to homeowners. What the government were doing were

:40:02. > :40:02.

:40:02. > :40:08.indulging in a better hyperbole. -- a bit off. They were tried to take

:40:08. > :40:16.attention away from the fact that they have cut police officers.

:40:16. > :40:19.you doing this to be popular? we are not. What is important is

:40:19. > :40:23.the fact that people are concerned that in the Rhone house they are

:40:23. > :40:27.not able to defend their property and their family. It is important

:40:27. > :40:35.that the government sends a clear message. People are worrying about

:40:35. > :40:44.crime. A course they are? Where is the evidence that they are worried?

:40:44. > :40:51.-- of course they are. Borges up in that position, way you are going

:40:51. > :40:58.through the trauma of being arrested. -- put yourself in that

:40:58. > :41:04.position. Isn't there now a danger that burglars will now arm

:41:04. > :41:09.themselves? I think that is completely wrong. The you can't

:41:10. > :41:17.guarantee that. We are speculating. This is about someone having the

:41:17. > :41:25.right to defend themselves. They can already do that! They should

:41:25. > :41:30.not be fearful that they are going to be prosecuted. The government is

:41:30. > :41:34.right to be listening to victims? Of course they are! They are coming

:41:34. > :41:38.up with the wrong solutions. What they should be doing is reversing

:41:39. > :41:45.the decision to get rid of 15,000 frontline police officers, and do

:41:45. > :41:53.something about the causes of crime. Let's turn to the problems at

:41:53. > :42:00.King's Mill Hospital. The watchdog revealed that 120 women were given

:42:00. > :42:08.false results from breast cancer screenings between 2004-2010. The

:42:08. > :42:15.trust has apologised. They have lost �3.9 million because of heavy

:42:15. > :42:20.debts because of a Private Finance Initiative. A lot of your

:42:20. > :42:25.constituents use this hospital, you are calling for the whole board to

:42:25. > :42:32.resign. They have two jobs, they have to look after the finances,

:42:32. > :42:40.and clinical care, they have failed in both. They have to consider

:42:40. > :42:47.their positions. The us resignation, in this case -- does it

:42:47. > :42:52.resignations in this case make anything better? It will not help

:42:52. > :42:55.of 400,000 people who use the NHS Trust. When my constituents go to

:42:55. > :43:00.the hospital, they need to have full confidence that they are going

:43:00. > :43:09.to get the right level of service. We have a new chairman coming in,

:43:09. > :43:15.and what I'm saying is, let him have a clean break. We have a

:43:15. > :43:24.Health Minister for the East Midlands, does she think the board

:43:24. > :43:28.should resign? Speaking as the Minister for Health, it is not my

:43:28. > :43:33.role, it would be quite wrong for me to interfere. It is up to the

:43:33. > :43:37.board, they will make their Rona decision, the local MP has come to

:43:37. > :43:42.his point of view, it will be resolved at a local level, and

:43:42. > :43:47.rightly so. I was absolutely horrified when I heard what was

:43:47. > :43:53.going on. That is the thing that has concerned me the most. It has

:43:53. > :43:57.gone undetected for six years. I am pleased that there are reviews at

:43:57. > :44:02.all levels, we have to find out what went wrong, and why it went

:44:02. > :44:07.wrong. If people are responsible, they are held to account. It should

:44:07. > :44:11.not happen again anywhere else in the country. It is absolutely

:44:11. > :44:20.dreadful. To think that that number of women did not receive the right

:44:20. > :44:27.to treatment, they got the right diagnosis, lives had been lost. It

:44:27. > :44:32.is just a dreadful, we all trust when began a long and have our

:44:32. > :44:42.tests -- when the we go along, and have those tests, we trust the

:44:42. > :44:48.people we have them there. We need a full proofs safe system -- we

:44:48. > :44:50.need a full proof and safe system. Paul Baggaley, you are from Save

:44:50. > :45:00.Newark Hospital Trust, you are concerned that the trust will have

:45:00. > :45:02.

:45:02. > :45:06.to close, could that happen? Yes, it could. We have had comments from

:45:06. > :45:15.the interim share then, he said he could not promise that the hospital

:45:15. > :45:22.would not clothes. It is very worrying. -- would not close. What

:45:22. > :45:30.would you like to say to Mark Spencer, the local MP? We would

:45:30. > :45:35.like a review of the changes and the effects. We know that the years

:45:35. > :45:45.ago, the Professional Executive Committee warned that the loss of

:45:45. > :45:47.

:45:47. > :45:54.non-elected care could cost the trust �3 million a year are? -- �3

:45:54. > :46:00.million a year? The new chairman, I have yet to meet him, but I will be

:46:00. > :46:10.doing so, hopefully we can get the chairman to recognise how hospital

:46:10. > :46:11.

:46:11. > :46:17.Newark hospital is. -- how important. If they can offer these

:46:17. > :46:21.services, the GPs can be commissioned, we need to make sure

:46:21. > :46:28.that the new board and chairman recognise that Newark has a role to

:46:29. > :46:36.play. I would very much agree with that. You only have to look at what

:46:36. > :46:46.has happened over the years, 75% of category A patients go to Lincoln

:46:46. > :46:47.

:46:47. > :46:57.and Grantham. We are talking about all sorts of problems, PFI, where

:46:57. > :46:57.

:46:57. > :47:07.public money is used to pay for private projects, they RMS? -- they

:47:07. > :47:15.

:47:15. > :47:21.are a mess? They were originally are a conservative policy, and we

:47:21. > :47:27.ran with them. The real issue is that for Mark and his colleagues,

:47:27. > :47:35.they should be stopping the Health Secretary reorganise the NHS, which

:47:35. > :47:40.is going to cost �2 billion. Reductions are paying for this

:47:40. > :47:49.reorganisation. We are the only major party who said we would not

:47:49. > :47:53.cut the NHS. You are spending �2 billion of reorganisation, taking

:47:53. > :48:02.�20 billion out of the NHS. cannot deny that you are making

:48:02. > :48:07.cuts? We are increasing the budget. I have got to say that the

:48:08. > :48:12.downgrading of the hospital started under the Labour Party, and has

:48:12. > :48:15.been finished by the Conservatives. They are both to blame. It is

:48:15. > :48:23.actually about taking money off the balance sheets, and then boring

:48:23. > :48:27.public money which was not going against the deficit, the deficit is

:48:27. > :48:33.actually much worse than you understand because of this PFI.

:48:33. > :48:37.you think the board should resign? I am sure that not everybody is to

:48:37. > :48:46.blame on the board, but it is difficult to look at the situation

:48:46. > :48:53.that we have had in the trust, they have had for chief executives in

:48:53. > :48:58.four years -- they have had four chief executives in four years.

:48:58. > :49:07.They appear to be in a mess. trust has said that they are

:49:07. > :49:11.carrying out a number of reviews, one or the cat the board

:49:11. > :49:16.governments -- one more look at how effective the board is, well that

:49:16. > :49:23.reassure you? It reassured me that they are starting this process, but

:49:23. > :49:27.they could have acted quicker. The warning signs were there years ago.

:49:27. > :49:34.When the health care review was carried out, they were very

:49:34. > :49:40.opportunistic in cutting services. Paul Baggaley, thank you very much

:49:40. > :49:47.for joining us. There is a unique coalition, the

:49:47. > :49:52.rear by local councils are uniting to change the way that benefits are

:49:52. > :50:00.paid. -- to campaign against the way that benefits are being paid.

:50:00. > :50:04.They say it will leave poor people at �200 a year worse off.

:50:04. > :50:07.Meet Wendy Morrison. She's a single mum living in the Aspley area of

:50:07. > :50:17.Nottingham. She struggles to make ends meet. It's about to get

:50:17. > :50:20.

:50:20. > :50:28.tougher. My council tax is �45 a month, they are looking for 20% on

:50:28. > :50:37.top of that. I do feel about that? -- How do you feel about that?

:50:37. > :50:41.Disgusted. She wants her daughter to have the best in life. Wendy

:50:41. > :50:44.works part-time in a pub but the pay isn't quite enough to get by.

:50:44. > :50:48.She gets government help to pay her council tax bills of a year. 27,000

:50:48. > :50:55.other people on low incomes in this city also get cash help for their

:50:55. > :50:59.council tax. The government has shifted responsibility for paying

:50:59. > :51:03.out council tax to your local majority, they argue that the

:51:03. > :51:10.figures no longer add up, and thousands are some of the lowest

:51:10. > :51:17.paid people in the country will be out of pocket. It is cutting back

:51:17. > :51:23.Gas and Electric and food, there is nothing else I can do. Can you do

:51:23. > :51:27.that? I am going to have to, it is going to be tough. Three of the

:51:27. > :51:30.councils, Derby, Nottingham and Leicester have joined forces to

:51:30. > :51:36.warn the government that the council tax system could be

:51:36. > :51:43.unworkable. In Derby, just under 15,000 people get help with their

:51:43. > :51:48.bills, pensioners are protected. The government's 10% cut means a

:51:48. > :51:53.bigger cut for the lower-paid. A two parent family will have to find

:51:53. > :51:57.an additional �10 a week. genuinely think it is going to have

:51:57. > :52:03.a devastating impact on the poorest people in this city. We have

:52:03. > :52:08.already seen a sharp increase in poverty levels. This is only going

:52:08. > :52:12.to exacerbate it. You government wants the changes to give the

:52:12. > :52:18.Council's extra incentive to get people on benefit back into full-

:52:18. > :52:24.time work. For Wendy Morris and, finding the right sort of job is

:52:25. > :52:28.not easy in the recession. It is not fair. They need to reconsider

:52:28. > :52:38.read. They are supposed to be helping the order every working

:52:38. > :52:40.

:52:40. > :52:50.person. -- the order every working person.

:52:50. > :52:55.Judith Spence runs a food project in Loughborough. Do you think about

:52:55. > :53:02.this change in benefits will have a big impact? We are only talking

:53:02. > :53:12.about a few pounds a week, does it make much difference? It really

:53:12. > :53:17.does, �10 when you are earning �140 a month makes a massive difference.

:53:17. > :53:24.It is a vast difference. I have actually been to your place in

:53:24. > :53:29.Loughborough, I have helped out, what amazed me was the wide range

:53:29. > :53:33.of people. There are some people that you expect to need help, they

:53:33. > :53:39.are down on their luck, and have problems with alcohol or drugs, but

:53:39. > :53:46.there were more people than I knew were going to be there. The numbers

:53:46. > :53:52.have gone up exponentially. We are feeding around 130 single people

:53:52. > :53:58.and families each week. I have not tried to do the maths, it just

:53:58. > :54:02.frightens me. It started out with people on benefits he were not

:54:02. > :54:07.getting by, or were misappropriating their benefits, it

:54:07. > :54:14.has now changed to people who have fallen between the cracks. That can

:54:14. > :54:18.happen very easily. What would you say to our politicians? There is a

:54:18. > :54:24.great beer out there. It is a fear of the unknown, a fear that when

:54:24. > :54:31.Universal credit comes in, and the council tax cap, how are they going

:54:31. > :54:35.to cope? One man said to me, every time you give me a few extra tins,

:54:36. > :54:39.I put them are in the back of the cupboard, because I don't know what

:54:39. > :54:42.next year is going to bring. There is a fear that although the

:54:43. > :54:50.government says it has put that information, it is not getting out

:54:50. > :54:57.of the people who needed. Are you taking on board what she's saying?

:54:57. > :55:01.I am. It recognises what pressure council tax puts on people. Some of

:55:01. > :55:06.these authorities have been at the West for putting their council tax

:55:06. > :55:10.up. You have to ask yourself why some local authority is like

:55:10. > :55:17.Nottinghamshire could not put council tax up for four consecutive

:55:17. > :55:27.years, and other authorities are. What you say to Wendy, who is

:55:27. > :55:27.

:55:27. > :55:31.already struggling, and she is working, she is striving? She and

:55:31. > :55:39.is in the unfortunate position of being under Nottinghamshire County

:55:39. > :55:46.Council, she is putting it up every -- they are putting it up every

:55:46. > :55:51.year. There is no efficiency. is factually incorrect. Let me get

:55:51. > :55:57.this straight. Derby had one of the lowest council tax rates in the

:55:57. > :56:00.region. The real region is not the level of council tax, but the fact

:56:00. > :56:05.that the government is pursuing a shame for proposition where they

:56:05. > :56:12.are proposing a tax rise on the lowest paid workers in our country.

:56:12. > :56:22.At the same time, they again to be giving tax cuts are by over �40,000

:56:22. > :56:24.

:56:24. > :56:29.a year to the register. -- to the richest people. You why a Derby MP,

:56:29. > :56:34.and just over 15,000 people will be affected. They will want to know

:56:34. > :56:38.what you're doing about this? important thing is to remember that

:56:38. > :56:42.these cuts are being imposed by Mark's government. Local

:56:42. > :56:48.authorities do not want to make cuts to low-paid workers, what they

:56:48. > :56:52.are trying to do is to minimise the impact on families in Nottingham,

:56:52. > :56:57.Leicester and Derby by coming up with this theme that is protecting

:56:57. > :57:04.them. In the end, it is going to be impossible to protect them, because

:57:04. > :57:09.the government, Mark's government, is reducing the amount of money. It

:57:09. > :57:15.is no good shaking your head, they are reducing the money by 10%.

:57:15. > :57:22.Pensioners have to be protected, so low-paid workers will be affected

:57:22. > :57:32.even worse. Do you think politicians get what you're up

:57:32. > :57:36.

:57:36. > :57:41.against? No, it needs to be on the ground. People need protection from

:57:41. > :57:47.their council. People on the ground, they rarely hearing about cuts,

:57:47. > :57:55.instead of hearing about protection. They raised protection for

:57:55. > :58:01.pensioners, and war widows. more protection that is available,

:58:01. > :58:11.the more people that are protected, it will mean a reduction on other

:58:11. > :58:11.

:58:11. > :58:16.people. That is the problem of the scheme. Some authorities are

:58:16. > :58:23.putting council tax is up, and others aren't. Under Labour,

:58:23. > :58:33.council tax doubled. We will have to leave it there.

:58:33. > :58:36.

:58:36. > :58:42.The other stories making the news in our 62nd round up. 62nd

:58:42. > :58:47.Nottingham's parking levy is costing businesses �8,000.

:58:47. > :58:52.It was a survey by the Chamber of Commerce, finding one in ten

:58:52. > :58:58.businesses considering leaving the city. Rutland County Council wants

:58:58. > :59:04.views on the way it is allocating social housing. They are

:59:04. > :59:13.prioritising, and ensuring it is as fair as possible. A final chapter

:59:13. > :59:21.foray regular, David Parsons is stepping down, apologising to the

:59:21. > :59:29.council's standards committee. John Mann claims he has unearthed

:59:29. > :59:39.stealth taxes, the Chancellor has been a targeting its new buildings.

:59:39. > :59:42.

:59:42. > :59:52.He says developers building a new Do you know what is happening on

:59:52. > :59:58.

:59:58. > :00:05.November 15th? Not many people do. No. Now. -- know. I do not know

:00:05. > :00:15.what it is for. The by told it was the Police and Crime Commissioner,

:00:15. > :00:16.

:00:16. > :00:26.would that ring any bells? No, it wouldn't. A if I told you it was

:00:26. > :00:26.

:00:27. > :00:33.the Police and Crime Commissioner. I think it is to control policing.