:01:32. > :01:36.Could news on the economy with new jobs and big profits from some of
:01:36. > :01:46.our biggest companies and the politician who is a climate change
:01:46. > :01:46.
:01:46. > :37:23.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2137 seconds
:37:23. > :37:26.sceptic meets a scientist worried In the East Midlands, fasten your
:37:27. > :37:31.safety belts could manufacturing in Derbyshire be driving the region on
:37:31. > :37:36.the road to recovery? And can scientists convince the sceptic
:37:36. > :37:40.over climate change? Journey this week, Pauline Latham and Labour's
:37:40. > :37:45.man in Derby North, Chris Williamson is in Westminster. We
:37:46. > :37:49.have got some good news. At least it will put a smile on the face of
:37:49. > :37:53.our guests today because it is happening in Derbyshire. The new
:37:53. > :37:59.Toyota Auris started rolling off the production line at the
:37:59. > :38:02.Burnaston factory. It has invested around �185 million in its UK
:38:03. > :38:07.manufacturing and supply chain for the car resulting in a hundred new
:38:07. > :38:11.jobs. Rolls Royce has announced profits of more than �1 billion
:38:11. > :38:16.despite difficult conditions around the world. The company has also won
:38:16. > :38:23.�20 billion worth of orders for its aircraft engines. Chris Williamson,
:38:23. > :38:27.no denying this, this is good news for Derbyshire? It is. Darbyshire's
:38:27. > :38:30.economy is pretty unique outside of London because we have these high-
:38:30. > :38:35.tech industries which have helped to drive growth and the impact of
:38:35. > :38:39.the downturn has not been as severe here as it has been in other parts
:38:39. > :38:44.of the country. What it is not all rosy in the garden however, because
:38:44. > :38:50.the government did let us down at what regards to the Thames link
:38:50. > :38:53.contract and it has been making cuts in public services. There is a
:38:53. > :38:58.symbiotic relationship between the public and private sectors and when
:38:58. > :39:04.there is a reduction in a number of staff employed, the reduction in
:39:04. > :39:12.the amount of procurement that public sector companies -- that has
:39:12. > :39:17.a knock-on impact as well. You were rolling your eyes. We cannot just
:39:17. > :39:22.rely on Toyota and Rolls Royce to try this out of the recession?
:39:22. > :39:26.is amazing news and I am amazed that he is doom and gloom. We
:39:26. > :39:30.should be celebrating and Rolls Royce and Toyota are doing really
:39:30. > :39:36.well and it is not just them, it is the knock-on Industries, the supply
:39:36. > :39:42.chain that we have and they will do well out of it as well. It is all
:39:42. > :39:45.right him in being doom and gloom that we have to look at the
:39:45. > :39:51.positives. We should be shouting this from the rooftops and
:39:51. > :39:56.celebrating. Are you always demand Glyn? I am being realistic. Of
:39:56. > :40:00.course I am celebrating this. It is excellent news and we are fortunate
:40:01. > :40:05.to have a these companies here, but we need to recognise that the rest
:40:05. > :40:10.of the economy is really struggling. We need to acknowledge that public
:40:10. > :40:13.services are being decimated and do not forget, bombard EA is the last
:40:13. > :40:17.train making company that is left in the United Kingdom. There is a
:40:17. > :40:21.real danger that they could pull out of the UK if the government
:40:21. > :40:27.does not get his facts together and sort out some contracts for it.
:40:27. > :40:30.They should have awarded that deal to the company at and there's a
:40:30. > :40:36.question mark over another deal, and there is a real chance they
:40:36. > :40:40.will pull out of the UK and that would be devastating. Dare we say,
:40:41. > :40:47.green shoots of recovery, it is positive news, but higher fire does
:40:47. > :40:50.it go? A I am really pleased. We want other industries to get more
:40:50. > :40:55.contracts and attract more businesses and on Tuesday we have
:40:55. > :41:02.got a reception showcasing Derby for other industries and I hope
:41:02. > :41:08.that if he comes to that, he will be talking positively. Let us not
:41:08. > :41:11.talk it down. I always top it up. One of the down sides of having a
:41:11. > :41:15.strong industrial bases and the effect it has on pollution, the
:41:15. > :41:21.East Midlands is responsible for the third highest CO2 emissions in
:41:21. > :41:25.the country. Roger Helmer or things that even if climate change is
:41:26. > :41:32.happening, it is being caused by nature, not man. Can anything
:41:32. > :41:38.changed his mind? He is the MEP who is a sceptic on climate change,
:41:38. > :41:44.they are the scientists who are convinced it is a major threat.
:41:44. > :41:49.should tell Brussels we are keeping our coal-fired power stations. We
:41:49. > :41:54.should repeal of the 2008 climate change that. Roger Helmer gets a
:41:54. > :42:04.standing ovation from the UKIP confident -- conference. What kind
:42:04. > :42:08.of reception will he get from the scientists at this university?
:42:08. > :42:12.MEP except that global warming may be happening but believes it is
:42:12. > :42:16.part of a natural pattern of warming and cooling. Today, he is
:42:16. > :42:22.meeting three scientists convince that it is carbon emissions causing
:42:22. > :42:28.the problem. He is shown at their evidence, but he has come armed
:42:28. > :42:33.with his own facts as well. There is a bit of variation, but there is
:42:33. > :42:37.no trend, there is no long-term increase over 15 years. You are
:42:37. > :42:44.right that in the sense over the last 15 years there was no
:42:44. > :42:49.measurable climate change, but if you look at the last 150 years,
:42:49. > :42:55.then we do see a quite significant increase. One by one, the
:42:55. > :43:01.scientists take on the MEP. We are living in a plateau of
:43:01. > :43:06.extraordinary stability. What we are threatening to do is to push in
:43:06. > :43:11.the system in ways we still do not quite understand. If you look at
:43:11. > :43:16.the long-term record you find that there are widely varying levels of
:43:16. > :43:21.Co 20 and you do not seem to see any close relationship. I would
:43:21. > :43:26.disagree with that. There are lots of incidences were we see carbon
:43:26. > :43:31.dioxide controlling the planet. stakes could hardly be higher. If
:43:31. > :43:34.the scientists are right, urgent action needs to be taken and if
:43:34. > :43:39.Roger Helmer is right, we are spending billions on a problem
:43:40. > :43:49.which does not exist. So, as the meeting led to agreement? It is
:43:49. > :43:53.great he has taken an interest, but we would have to sit down with him
:43:53. > :43:59.and tried to work through the kind of evidence that we have gone
:43:59. > :44:02.through. At I have got great respect for them, but I have met
:44:02. > :44:07.and worked with other highly qualified scientists to take a
:44:07. > :44:12.different view. What we are dealing with his highly disputed, highly
:44:12. > :44:17.speculative science and on the base of this, we are spending literally
:44:17. > :44:22.hundreds of billions of pounds, unimaginable amounts of money, on a
:44:22. > :44:26.problem at that may not be a problem. The evidence for climate
:44:26. > :44:30.change is so overwhelming that if he still doubts it, he will not be
:44:30. > :44:35.convinced just by meeting as. the scientist, it is a chance to
:44:35. > :44:40.put an urgent case to a politician, for Roger Helmer, it has confirmed
:44:40. > :44:45.his view that the scientists have got it wrong. It could be a long
:44:45. > :44:50.time before they see eye to eye. Councillor Richard Mallender is
:44:50. > :44:54.chair of the Nottingham Green Party, what you make of that? I think he
:44:54. > :45:00.is tremendous good value but he could argue all day about this and
:45:00. > :45:03.he will never be convinced on climate change. Is it disappointing
:45:03. > :45:08.when you see how strongly the scientists were trying to persuade
:45:08. > :45:17.him? I do not think they will ever be able to persuade him. They will
:45:17. > :45:21.never persuade him on this. We are armed only with peer reviewed
:45:21. > :45:24.science and these guys have spent their life studying mess it, there
:45:24. > :45:29.are thousands of scientists who have come to pretty much the same
:45:29. > :45:33.conclusion, it is a degree of climate change that is caused by
:45:33. > :45:37.people, not whether or not it is happening. You said you are going
:45:37. > :45:47.to be the greenest government ever but this coalition seems to be
:45:47. > :45:47.
:45:47. > :45:50.split on this. I think wind farms are questionable. Often they are
:45:50. > :45:58.not moving and they are a big intrusion into the landscape. There
:45:58. > :46:02.are other things that we can do and we are moving on a green industry.
:46:02. > :46:06.We should be trying to persuade people to insulate their houses and
:46:06. > :46:10.we have got the green in deal about his putting a lot of money into
:46:10. > :46:15.that. We're looking at alternative technologies and we are spreading
:46:15. > :46:22.the risk on the technology so that we have plenty of different options,
:46:22. > :46:26.but the key thing is that people need to insulate their houses...
:46:26. > :46:30.heard how bad we are on CO2 emissions and we had just heard the
:46:30. > :46:36.good news about Toyota and Rolls Royce, but that could be bad news
:46:36. > :46:39.for the environment. And I do not think it is bad news for the
:46:39. > :46:44.environment. Rolls Royce and Toyota are leading the way in green
:46:44. > :46:48.technologies, more fuel-efficient cars and aero-engines, we cannot
:46:48. > :46:51.live in a bubble, it is vital that we support our manufacturing
:46:51. > :46:57.industries. As far is this government being green, you could
:46:57. > :47:01.have fooled me. The Green Deal is not fit for purpose and it will not
:47:01. > :47:05.do him with the poorest households, they are very unlikely to take up
:47:05. > :47:10.the deal and they are the ones that need it most. They have undermined
:47:10. > :47:17.the feed-in tariff system and they have not gone ahead with the
:47:17. > :47:20.capture and storage demonstration. The government agreed to do one and
:47:20. > :47:28.now they're not even going ahead with that. If we're going to meet
:47:28. > :47:36.our climate change obligations, the government is going to have to up
:47:36. > :47:40.its game. He has to rant and have bad news. We are looking and trying
:47:40. > :47:44.to work with people to make sure that they can insulate their houses,
:47:44. > :47:48.there is a huge amount of money going into it, and that will make a
:47:48. > :47:52.difference. Rolls Royce and Toyota are doing a lot for the local
:47:52. > :47:56.environment because they have built new buildings and Rolls Royce has
:47:56. > :47:59.invested billions of pounds here and they are making sure that they
:47:59. > :48:06.are energy-efficient buildings. What to make of the way these
:48:06. > :48:10.parties are tackling this? I do not think they are getting to grips
:48:10. > :48:16.with this seriously. We need to insulate homes, we need jobs for
:48:16. > :48:23.the area, but we are talking about creating a greener jobs and
:48:23. > :48:29.building that infrastructure for the economy. Encouraging more
:48:29. > :48:37.aerospace manufacture is not the way to go. We need to structure a
:48:37. > :48:42.way around short-haul flights. We see the Conservatives angling
:48:42. > :48:52.towards wanting to increase the amount of aviation, wanting to
:48:52. > :48:54.
:48:55. > :49:04.build a third runway at Heathrow... It is not the wrong kind of
:49:05. > :49:07.
:49:08. > :49:11.investment. High-speed two, will have a large carbon footprint
:49:11. > :49:21.simply because of the speed that you intend to run the train at. If
:49:21. > :49:23.
:49:23. > :49:30.you ran it as a slower network, DUP what about other countries who have
:49:30. > :49:35.fast trains? We need those trains. We are looking at another place to
:49:35. > :49:43.put a terminal simply because we need people to fly to this country
:49:43. > :49:51.otherwise we will not have the good jobs. You can use it
:49:51. > :49:55.teleconferencing. We have a perfect example here. Richard Mallender
:49:55. > :49:58.thank you very much. There is less than one week to go and signs that
:49:58. > :50:02.people are becoming interested in the Police and Crime Commissioner
:50:02. > :50:05.elections. Voting takes place on Thursday and we will be gauging
:50:05. > :50:08.public opinion on the streets of the East Midlands, but first our
:50:08. > :50:15.political editor has been looking at a line-up of candidates for
:50:15. > :50:20.Lincolnshire. There four candidates. Paul Gleeson is the Labour
:50:20. > :50:24.candidate, he is a councillor. He is promising to protect frontline
:50:25. > :50:30.policing services, retain a fully functioning police station and
:50:30. > :50:34.custodial seat in central Lincoln and balance the needs of rural and
:50:34. > :50:39.urban areas. The police have lost their connection with people. If
:50:39. > :50:45.you vote for me, I will return the role of the police to you, I will
:50:45. > :50:49.listen to you and meet with you. Richard Davies is standing for the
:50:49. > :50:52.Conservatives. He is a Lincolnshire County Council air and a member of
:50:52. > :51:00.the Lincolnshire Police Authority. He is promising to improve the
:51:00. > :51:04.quality of policing, to have a cop shop in every town and to have
:51:04. > :51:09.councils and voluntary groups are finding more police community
:51:09. > :51:13.support officers. I am standing because I believe in visibility and
:51:13. > :51:16.preventing crime is the key to success. We need less victims of
:51:16. > :51:21.crime and we need to see more of the 1,100 police officers we have
:51:21. > :51:25.got. I was born here and I had been on the police authority so I know
:51:25. > :51:34.the current problems and I can deliver a better service and a
:51:34. > :51:37.service that people deserve. This man is an independent. He is a
:51:37. > :51:41.former Chief Executive of Lincolnshire County Council and was
:51:41. > :51:45.also chairman of the United Lincolnshire hospitals trust. He
:51:45. > :51:49.wants to retain the independence of the police, look closely at the
:51:49. > :51:53.funding of the police to make sure it is sustainable and tougher
:51:53. > :51:57.sanctions on repeat offenders. reason I am standing is that I do
:51:57. > :52:04.not believe that politicians should be running the police, but that is
:52:04. > :52:08.not the only reason. The criminal justice system and our courts have
:52:08. > :52:12.delivered a system which is soft on repeat offenders and I want to try
:52:12. > :52:17.and tackle not just the policing issues, but also those broader
:52:17. > :52:21.issues. Alan Hardwick is standing as an independent. He is a former
:52:21. > :52:25.television presenter and has worked for the last four years of the
:52:25. > :52:30.Lincolnshire Police Authority. He wants to keep the police free from
:52:30. > :52:35.political interference and he wants a policy of zero tolerance on anti-
:52:35. > :52:40.social behaviour and he wants a focus on rural and local crime.
:52:40. > :52:44.am a professional communicator and I believe the key to success is to
:52:44. > :52:48.communicate, co-operate with the people of Lincolnshire to get their
:52:48. > :52:53.ideas and suggestions, they will get a chance to dictate how their
:52:53. > :52:59.policing is run. When I listen to them, I will translate their
:52:59. > :53:03.problems into action. Just to let you know the EU can now see the
:53:03. > :53:08.profiles of all the candidates in elections by visiting the East
:53:08. > :53:11.Midlands pages of the BBC's website. Four days to go, all the
:53:11. > :53:17.predictions are that turnout will be low and now wish your chance to
:53:17. > :53:21.tell people why they should vote. do not think it will be as low as
:53:21. > :53:25.people think. I had used my postal vote already. I hope people will
:53:25. > :53:30.use them. People should be voting even if they do not believe in
:53:30. > :53:34.Police Commissioners. They perhaps do not know enough about it, but
:53:34. > :53:37.they should use their vote because on Thursday we will have a Police
:53:37. > :53:43.Commissioner in every county in the country and if they do not use
:53:43. > :53:48.their vote they will have had no say in the matter. To the underside
:53:48. > :53:56.of, what would you say? It is important about people utilise the
:53:56. > :54:02.vote. We think it would be better to use the funding earmarked for
:54:02. > :54:05.this on frontline policing. You are fielding candidates. Of course. If
:54:06. > :54:08.people want a commissioner to stand up for the police, I would urge
:54:08. > :54:13.them to vote for the Labour candidates who will actually try
:54:13. > :54:17.and resist the government's 20% reduction in frontline police
:54:17. > :54:20.officers and the privatisation of the police. There are other
:54:20. > :54:27.candidates standing, but if there is a low turnout, the predictions
:54:27. > :54:34.are 20%, to the commissioners even have a mandate to do the job?
:54:34. > :54:38.is democracy. People do not have to vote. People can exercise their
:54:38. > :54:41.choice to not vote, but I think it would be sad if people do not have
:54:41. > :54:45.a voice because these are really important jobs and I think it is
:54:45. > :54:49.really important for them to have their say on the type of policing
:54:49. > :54:53.they want in their area. At the beginning of this campaign, very
:54:53. > :54:56.few people knew the elections were happening. This week people in
:54:56. > :55:02.Grantham said they knew they were going on but were still deciding
:55:02. > :55:05.whether or not to vote. No, I am not. I think that instead of
:55:05. > :55:10.spending the money or on the commissioners, they should be
:55:10. > :55:17.spending it on police officers. am not interested. I am aware that
:55:17. > :55:22.a little bit more. Yes, I will definitely be voting. Why should
:55:22. > :55:28.one individual have the power to sack a police inspector if he is
:55:28. > :55:32.not doing his job, that should be the job of the government. Someone
:55:32. > :55:41.in a proper position can keep an eye on what the police are doing. I
:55:41. > :55:51.think it is a good idea. It's for the police. I do not know if I will
:55:51. > :55:53.
:55:53. > :55:58.vote. I wasn't sure about it. It was in the back of my mind. Let his
:55:58. > :56:03.-- let us hope it is not in the back of his mind next week. Would
:56:03. > :56:09.it not be a disaster if people did not allow it to vote? It is up to
:56:09. > :56:13.individuals whether they go out to vote, but it is important for the
:56:13. > :56:19.country that they exercise their right to make a decision on this.
:56:19. > :56:23.It is really important and I would urge everyone out there to go out
:56:23. > :56:27.and vote. The is a concern that politics could take over policing,
:56:27. > :56:32.surely there is a chance that more people may go out and vote for
:56:32. > :56:36.independence? That is the democratic choice to do that. We
:56:36. > :56:42.are fielding Labour candidates and we hope that people will support us.
:56:42. > :56:47.We will be standing up for the policing service and standing
:56:47. > :56:50.against the cuts to frontline policing. If the government was
:56:50. > :56:54.really interested in democracy, they would not be holding a
:56:54. > :56:58.selection in the middle of winter. The election is taking place, but
:56:58. > :57:03.whoever is in charge they are going to have to oversee tens of millions
:57:03. > :57:08.of pounds worth of cuts and that is the reality. We all have to make
:57:08. > :57:12.sacrifices, we have got a big deficit left to us by Labour over
:57:12. > :57:15.the worst deficit ever and we have got to balance our books and if we
:57:15. > :57:19.do not do that and unfortunately, it means that police have to take
:57:19. > :57:23.their share, but there are opportunities for other people to
:57:23. > :57:28.come in and take over at the back office functions which will in fact
:57:28. > :57:31.help save money and it has been shown to do that in other areas.
:57:31. > :57:34.The police have already been doing that, it will not just be the
:57:34. > :57:41.police paying the price, it will be the public, who will not get the
:57:41. > :57:45.policing that they deserve. Those elections are taking place on
:57:45. > :57:48.Thursday. I have not seen the weather forecast, but let us hope
:57:48. > :57:56.it is good. Time to catch up with some of the
:57:56. > :57:59.other political stories from the East Midlands this week.
:57:59. > :58:03.Could the people of Leicester be asked if they want to get rid of
:58:03. > :58:08.the City's Meyer? There are reports that a petition is being drawn up
:58:08. > :58:12.to hold a debate on the subject. There was a sharp exchange of words
:58:12. > :58:14.in the Commons between the Nottingham South MP and the Deputy
:58:14. > :58:21.Prime Minister when she drew his attention to problems at Kettering
:58:21. > :58:27.District Hospital. I find it extraordinary that she process in
:58:27. > :58:32.this will fall scaremongering. the Labour MP was unrepentant.
:58:32. > :58:36.official documents say that the best option is downgrading
:58:36. > :58:43.Kettering District Hospital's casualty department, maternity and
:58:43. > :58:47.acute services and cutting of 550 of its 658 beds.
:58:47. > :58:50.Staying with health is the East Midlands getting a bad deal from
:58:50. > :58:54.the government, this time on cuts to nursing numbers? Chris
:58:54. > :59:03.Williamson says the region has lost more than twice as many nurses as
:59:03. > :59:09.the South of England. You had a go at these figures on
:59:09. > :59:12.nursing cuts, why is it that we are worse off here? It is not just
:59:12. > :59:17.according to me, it is according to official figures that have
:59:17. > :59:21.illustrated that fact. It seems that the Government is protecting
:59:21. > :59:27.its Tory heartlands at the expense of places like the East Midlands.
:59:27. > :59:34.We cannot argue with the fact that we have lost 550 nurses in this
:59:34. > :59:38.region, 2.5% reduction compared to 1.1% in the south of England. I
:59:38. > :59:47.think that is unfair when before the election the Prime Minister
:59:47. > :59:50.said he would cut the deficit, not the NHS,. We are spending more on
:59:50. > :59:54.health service which his party did not want to spend. They wanted to
:59:54. > :59:58.reduce the health service budget, but we have committed to keeping it
:59:58. > :00:05.and increasing it. What we have got to do is make sure that we do