:01:31. > :01:34.In the East Midlands: Want to know what your new police
:01:34. > :01:36.commissioner looks like? We'll hear from all of them.
:01:36. > :01:46.And is the Corby by-election Middle England rejecting the
:01:46. > :01:46.
:01:46. > :41:34.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2387 seconds
:41:34. > :41:37.Two Labour, one Conservative and an independent. No, it's not the worst
:41:37. > :41:40.Christmas party ever. It's the line up of police and crime
:41:40. > :41:44.commissioners in the East Midlands. We'll be hearing from all four of
:41:44. > :41:54.them, and from you. He cannot know about it unless you do so for about
:41:54. > :41:55.
:41:55. > :41:57.it. -- you cannot know about it. All that and Corby too. In the
:41:57. > :41:59.studio are two brand-new, fresh- faced Police and Crime
:42:00. > :42:02.Commissioners. Paddy Tipping won Nottinghamshire for Labour and Alan
:42:02. > :42:05.Charles, also from Labour, is the commissioner for Derbyshire. And no
:42:05. > :42:08.less fresh-faced, we also have Mark Spencer, the Conservative MP for
:42:08. > :42:11.Sherwood. So, what's the difference between our studio and a polling
:42:11. > :42:14.booth? Well, there are more people here than turned up at one voting
:42:14. > :42:17.centre in the East Midlands this week that's for sure. So let's take
:42:17. > :42:20.a look at those figures. The highest voting was in
:42:20. > :42:22.Nottinghamshire, with a turnout of just over 16%. Next it was
:42:22. > :42:28.Leicestershire where there was also a 16% turnout. In Lincolnshire it
:42:28. > :42:31.was 15%. And in Derbyshire only 14% of the electorate cast their votes.
:42:31. > :42:34.The best performer in the region was Rushcliffe with a dizzying
:42:34. > :42:42.turnout of 22%. Poorest was Bolsover where only 11% of the
:42:42. > :42:45.electorate voted. Paddy, this will haunt you for your entire term in
:42:45. > :42:53.office, won't it? How can you say you have a mandate for anything you
:42:53. > :42:58.do? I have got more votes than any other politician in the East
:42:58. > :43:03.Midlands. It is a poor turnout, there is no point denying that. The
:43:03. > :43:11.responsibility upon us all is to demonstrate that this post can work.
:43:11. > :43:16.The Derbyshire figures were even worse, 11% in Bolsover. Only two
:43:16. > :43:24.people turned out at one polling booth at Kedleston. That is a shame
:43:24. > :43:30.that that happened. But quite clearly, the government were told
:43:30. > :43:32.that they must give candidates the ability to give a mailshot. I spoke
:43:32. > :43:38.to hundreds of people on the phone last week and everyone said they
:43:38. > :43:48.didn't know what the election was about all he was standing. Isn't it
:43:48. > :43:50.
:43:50. > :43:57.also that people didn't want I take a point on board. I would rather
:43:58. > :44:04.have seen that money spent on policing on the streets. This is an
:44:04. > :44:09.embarrassment, isn't it? Does the tax payer want to pay for those
:44:09. > :44:13.leaflets? We should take feedback about whether they want to get a
:44:13. > :44:18.mailshot. It is now down to these guys to do the job and inspire the
:44:18. > :44:23.next round of voting. If they do a good job, maybe they will be
:44:23. > :44:28.inspired. If they do a bad job, they will probably inspired an even
:44:28. > :44:33.more! We had heard of and out there has been a shooting in Nottingham.
:44:33. > :44:40.This is the sort of thing that will land on your desk on a weekly basis.
:44:40. > :44:44.What do you do now? I have been speaking to the police and you'll
:44:44. > :44:48.be pleased to note an arrest has been taking place. We will have to
:44:48. > :44:52.wait and see how the investigation goes, going forward. Let's be clear,
:44:52. > :44:55.Nottingham has a good place to live. The amount of shootings has gone
:44:55. > :45:01.down. We have to keep on top of that because the image of our city
:45:01. > :45:04.depends upon it. It shows that the commissioner, the Chief Constable
:45:04. > :45:10.have to work closely together and that is what is going to happen.
:45:10. > :45:13.What are you going to do about gun crime? We have to use intelligence,
:45:13. > :45:17.target serious gangs which is happening at the moment. We have
:45:17. > :45:22.got to reassure the public but actually, Nottingham is a safe
:45:22. > :45:28.place to live. The fear of crime sometimes is more disabling than
:45:28. > :45:38.the actual crime itself. Next here for another of our new
:45:38. > :45:44.
:45:44. > :45:48.commissioners. -- let's hear from another of our commissioners. OK,
:45:48. > :45:50.let's hear from another of our new PCCs. The former fighter pilot and
:45:50. > :45:53.ex-Air Chief Marshall in the RAF, Sir Clive Loader, won
:45:53. > :45:56.Leicestershire and Rutland for the Conservatives. He's jetted off on a
:45:56. > :45:59.break before taking up his post. Our reporter caught up with him at
:45:59. > :46:01.the count and asked how his previous experience will help in
:46:01. > :46:03.his new role. The IRA leader, a high of knowledge of running
:46:03. > :46:06.complex budgets, particularly making difficult decisions. That is
:46:06. > :46:11.the background that I bring. Also, I would say I have something else,
:46:11. > :46:16.which is building teams. I have built, sometimes lead, teams in
:46:16. > :46:18.very difficult circumstances and we have 18 to build here. Myself and
:46:18. > :46:22.the Chief Constable, our relationship will be critical to
:46:23. > :46:31.how wealthy initiative works here. I know that we will work well
:46:31. > :46:37.together. You have had a few run- ins in with Sir Peter Salsbury.
:46:37. > :46:42.do you see your relationship panning out with him in the future?
:46:42. > :46:50.We will work together. I have a job to do witches to help the Chief
:46:50. > :46:53.Constable to give targets and so on to the police force. A crime is a
:46:53. > :46:57.crime were ever it is committed. I have made it very clear, while at
:46:57. > :47:00.the on hustings and elsewhere, and there has to be a balance between
:47:00. > :47:04.things that happen in the City, it could be anti-social behaviour,
:47:05. > :47:08.burglaries and so on, and things that happen in this country side,
:47:08. > :47:12.whether it is theft of rural farm machinery or whatever. Getting that
:47:12. > :47:15.balance right and making sure that people feel that the police are
:47:15. > :47:21.looking after them, are responding to things properly, one day become
:47:21. > :47:24.the victims of crime. We heard Sir Clive talking about representing
:47:24. > :47:29.all of Leicestershire and Rutland, the rural areas and the urban ones
:47:29. > :47:38.and Alan, that's going to be a challenge for you isn't?
:47:38. > :47:47.Derbyshire is a one a full county and extremely diverse. As others
:47:47. > :47:55.have done, once the election is over, you represent everybody.
:47:55. > :48:00.are your priorities? To maintain it community policing. So long as
:48:00. > :48:10.there are no other budget cuts handed down in December, I will
:48:10. > :48:18.maintain those levels. I am going to stick up for the police who are
:48:18. > :48:21.facing major cuts. Actually, I will argue for more resources. It is
:48:21. > :48:25.important and I will use those resources to strengthen
:48:25. > :48:34.neighbourhood police teams and secondly to take on anti-social
:48:34. > :48:42.behaviour. That's a big priority for me. You have said that most
:48:42. > :48:51.crime happens in Labour areas. will concentrate on whether crime
:48:51. > :48:55.is. 70 % of the crime is in urban parts of Nottingham. It is
:48:55. > :49:05.important to represent everybody and Ferrar real anxieties in rural
:49:05. > :49:07.
:49:07. > :49:11.areas. Mark, are you worried about that? World rural areas lose out?
:49:11. > :49:18.am more than happy to work with these gentlemen to make sure we get
:49:18. > :49:26.good funding from the Government. Maybe they cannot commit to not
:49:26. > :49:32.increasing council tax. By her up there will be no cuts coming in
:49:32. > :49:33.December. -- I hope. It is vital those families under pressure will
:49:34. > :49:34.those families under pressure will those families under pressure will
:49:34. > :49:44.those families under pressure will those families under pressure will
:49:44. > :49:49.
:49:49. > :49:52.not see their council tax bill go I've already had a meeting this
:49:52. > :49:56.morning. It is important to get best value for money. There are
:49:56. > :50:01.ways of getting savings and putting resources to the frontline. Ray are
:50:01. > :50:10.on the case. We are going to do it. People want to feel safe in their
:50:10. > :50:20.homes and streets. We have to get on with it. I started meetings this
:50:20. > :50:21.
:50:21. > :50:24.yesterday morning. This work is under way. We have to demonstrate
:50:24. > :50:33.that police commissioners can make a difference if we work together to
:50:33. > :50:36.make a change. Everything depends on a settlement that will be out in
:50:36. > :50:46.December. Cuts will be inevitable but we need to be clear that we
:50:46. > :50:49.
:50:49. > :50:52.need to protect frontline services. So a lot of promises about policing,
:50:52. > :50:55.but what do people really want from their police commissioners? The
:50:55. > :50:58.voters may have stayed away from the ballot boxes, but one place
:50:58. > :51:01.where you're guaranteed to find a crowd on a Sunday morning is at the
:51:01. > :51:03.car boot sale at Nottingham Racecourse. So our political editor
:51:03. > :51:07.has been there this morning to gauge opinion.
:51:07. > :51:12.�14 and voters the cost to every voter who took part in elections.
:51:12. > :51:15.�14 would certainly go a long way here today. We are at their car
:51:15. > :51:19.boot sale at this racecourse. We will find out whether these people
:51:19. > :51:28.voted or not and if they didn't, why not? And if they did, what they
:51:28. > :51:37.expect from the commissioners. Let's find out from Sandra.
:51:37. > :51:47.didn't know who I was voting for. I expect from these commissioners to
:51:47. > :51:54.know who they are and what they are going to do for us. Why did you
:51:54. > :51:58.vote on Thursday? I've always had good relationships with the police
:51:58. > :52:07.because we often do work with them. They help us out. It is important
:52:07. > :52:17.to me. I would like to see a less paperwork done and more men on the
:52:17. > :52:21.
:52:21. > :52:29.beat. Less bureaucracy. Did you take part? I have a disabled
:52:29. > :52:33.daughter and I wasn't prepared to give my free time up to go and vote.
:52:33. > :52:42.I didn't vote. I didn't have any information. That needs to change,
:52:42. > :52:49.definitely. If we go over here, we will find somebody who did vote.
:52:49. > :52:55.And a, you did vote. Why did you vote? I was given the opportunity
:52:55. > :53:01.to vote. You cannot moan about it unless you do something about it. I
:53:01. > :53:08.didn't feel there was enough information given regarding the
:53:08. > :53:13.candidates. You are given an opportunity so you must use it.
:53:13. > :53:15.Thank you very much. Things are moving on very quickly. These
:53:15. > :53:25.commissioners will take their office as early as Tuesday. On
:53:25. > :53:27.
:53:27. > :53:36.Friday, the commission's take office itself.
:53:36. > :53:44.Could this mean a rise in council tax? We don't know until we get the
:53:44. > :53:47.settlement from the government. If we get a good settlement... If we
:53:47. > :53:52.get a good settlement, and I hope Mark will be good on his word and
:53:52. > :53:56.will fight for that, we will be able to adjust the council precept
:53:56. > :54:04.from their. The government have offered a 1% freeze grant to us
:54:04. > :54:11.this year but that is not straightforward drive a. We you
:54:12. > :54:15.work together on this? The East Midlands has been underfunded for
:54:15. > :54:21.many years. We need to work together on this. The first answer
:54:21. > :54:29.is not to put up tax but to look for efficiencies. Let's get coppers
:54:29. > :54:36.out from behind desks and on to the streets. Paddy, you have promised
:54:36. > :54:40.to cut paperwork. What will you cut? It is important that people
:54:40. > :54:44.get out on the streets. It's important police officers get out
:54:44. > :54:48.on the streets. Many of them have hand held computers are, new
:54:49. > :54:58.technology. We need to get people out of the police stations and onto
:54:59. > :55:02.the streets. We need to be efficient and effective. Most
:55:02. > :55:12.people want to see more bobbies on the beat but the government is
:55:12. > :55:16.
:55:16. > :55:24.saying we cannot afford this with twenties % cuts. -- 20 % cut.
:55:24. > :55:28.have to make sure that the police work for us. They are
:55:28. > :55:31.democratically accountable representatives and they need to be
:55:31. > :55:33.steered the police. If you are complaining about anti-social
:55:34. > :55:37.behaviour or you want to complain about anything in your community,
:55:37. > :55:45.get in contact with these new commissioners and make sure they
:55:45. > :55:55.know what your priorities are. are all going to be asking for more
:55:55. > :56:01.money. Where will it come from? Nottinghamshire police have lost
:56:01. > :56:06.300 officers. The Inspectorate of police say police can take 12 % cut
:56:06. > :56:11.but not 20 % cuts without affecting frontline policing. We need to work
:56:11. > :56:21.with Marchand others to get a fair settlement for course -- for all
:56:21. > :56:31.the East Midlands police forces. Briefly. The Government needs to
:56:31. > :56:34.
:56:34. > :56:37.get more money in the system and get people out into work.
:56:37. > :56:40.We've heard from three of the commissioners in the East Midlands,
:56:40. > :56:42.let's hear now from the fourth. Because in Lincolnshire the
:56:42. > :56:44.Independent candidate, Alan Hardwick, who's a former TV
:56:44. > :56:47.presenter on Calendar, was elected. He's certainly well known on the
:56:47. > :56:54.streets of Lincolnshire and there was no shortage of well-wishers
:56:54. > :56:57.when our reporter caught up with him. My dream, my ambition is that
:56:57. > :57:02.the police -- the people of Lincolnshire get the police and
:57:02. > :57:05.they want. I am going to arrange meetings and surgeries all over the
:57:05. > :57:10.counter because only by finding out from the people of Lincolnshire
:57:10. > :57:20.what they want, getting grassroots opinion, can retarget the resources
:57:20. > :57:22.
:57:22. > :57:30.that we have effectively. To what if the public. Expense of things? -
:57:30. > :57:36.- what if the pub we want expensive things? A special role Grant was
:57:36. > :57:39.taken away from us. My message to the Government is you've taken away
:57:39. > :57:49.money. The problems are still here. That doesn't make sense, does it?
:57:49. > :57:58.We would like our money back, please. You only have 10 weeks to
:57:58. > :58:07.plan your budget? Will that be enough? I want a depth of
:58:07. > :58:13.consultation with the people of Lincolnshire. Her Majesty's
:58:13. > :58:17.Inspectorate of Constabulary have raised concerns that they won't be
:58:18. > :58:24.able to deal with much more in terms of cuts. I believe that is
:58:24. > :58:28.scaremongering in the extreme. me put it this way, the cuts are
:58:28. > :58:32.front-end loaded so we've got over the worst of them. I am hoping that
:58:32. > :58:37.an approach of asking the government, demanding from the
:58:37. > :58:45.Government that we have at least our �1.8 million a year bank, which
:58:45. > :58:50.is the equivalent of 42 officers, coupled with economies that I am
:58:50. > :58:57.sure we can beat -- I am sure we can make, without losing jobs,
:58:57. > :59:07.without threatening jobs, unsure that what H M RIAC says may ring
:59:07. > :59:12.
:59:12. > :59:14.true with them at the moment. But we will prove them wrong. -- HMRC.
:59:14. > :59:17.And didn't Lincoln look beautiful in that autumn sunshine?
:59:17. > :59:21.Well, if the PCC elections weren't exciting enough we've had a by-
:59:21. > :59:23.election too. Corby is on the edge of the East Midlands but the
:59:23. > :59:26.results there have big implications for our region. There was a
:59:26. > :59:29.relatively healthy turnout of 45% for the by-election. The result saw
:59:29. > :59:32.a swing of almost 13% from Conservative to Labour. UKIP polled
:59:32. > :59:36.more than 5,000 votes, leaving the Liberal Democrats in fourth place.
:59:36. > :59:41.The new MP, Andy Sawford said it was an historic result. Today,
:59:41. > :59:45.Middle England have sent a strong message to David Cameron. It's the
:59:45. > :59:55.first parliamentary by-election in 15 years where Labour has won back
:59:55. > :59:58.a Tory-held seat. Mark Spencer, a seat that swings between Labour and
:59:58. > :00:08.Conservative goes back to Labour? Ring any alarm bells? Could be
:00:08. > :00:10.
:00:10. > :00:19.Sherwood! People are feeling the pressure. At the general election,
:00:19. > :00:22.there will be a different result. Paddy, you were the Labour MP for
:00:22. > :00:25.Mark's seat in the last government. But in reality you haven't done as
:00:25. > :00:31.well as you expected. If Middle England is turning against the
:00:31. > :00:33.Tories it's not turning to you is it? This was a 13 % swing. Let's be
:00:33. > :00:38.clear. County council by-election last
:00:38. > :00:43.month and a 19 % swing to Labour. People want the economy to grow and
:00:43. > :00:49.that is what will decide the next general election. It is not just
:00:49. > :00:52.Corby, is it? It is the PCC elections as well. There have been
:00:52. > :00:58.predictions of 20 Labour PCC's. People are not exactly warning to
:00:59. > :01:01.Labour, are they? I think our prediction was 819. We have done
:01:01. > :01:05.significantly better than that which is great. What people have
:01:05. > :01:08.said in Corby is where David Cameron is saying we are all in
:01:09. > :01:13.this together, clearly we are not. Where tax breaks are being handed
:01:13. > :01:18.out in millionaires and big companies, who won not paying their
:01:18. > :01:23.share, we have had enough. They want to move back to Labour. I
:01:23. > :01:31.suppose one of the bigger worries for you, with a call the result,
:01:31. > :01:34.might be the size of the United Kingdom Independence Party vote. I
:01:34. > :01:42.think the general election is two years away so let's not get excited
:01:42. > :01:46.about them. What really matters is actually jobs and the economy. We
:01:46. > :01:49.as a government need to make sure we get the economy moving. That
:01:50. > :01:53.process is starting to happen. With created 1 million jobs in the
:01:53. > :01:58.private sector. We've cut the deficit and by the time we get to
:01:58. > :02:04.the next general election, plan a will have been proved to be right.
:02:04. > :02:08.He cannot ignore this United Kingdom Independence Party result,
:02:09. > :02:14.can you? The Tory cry that a vote for them is a wasted vote may be
:02:14. > :02:18.wearing a bit thin now. Ignore it at your peril, I think is the one.
:02:18. > :02:22.I am not ignoring it. Europe is a big issue. If we look at what has
:02:22. > :02:25.happened in the courts and the fact we cannot get rid of some of our
:02:25. > :02:29.criminals frustrate people enormously. As a government, we got
:02:29. > :02:32.to address that and get to grips with that. There are two-and-a-half
:02:32. > :02:36.years ago. We are halfway through this journey and I think we are
:02:36. > :02:45.making some progress. People will recognise that the progress we've
:02:45. > :02:55.made is good. Time for our regular round up of the other political
:02:55. > :02:58.
:02:58. > :03:02.stories in the East Midlands in our Ambulance workers have been
:03:02. > :03:06.protesting. A public consultation over restructuring plans for East
:03:06. > :03:12.Midlands ambulance service which includes closing 12 out of 13
:03:12. > :03:17.stations in Nottinghamshire has so far only resulted in so... Rutland
:03:17. > :03:20.County Council has approved a new guidelines on wind turbines. The
:03:20. > :03:24.planning document limits the number of turbine is that can be built
:03:24. > :03:28.close together. Sir Peter Salsbury has warned
:03:28. > :03:35.appalling choices will have to be made when it comes to Leicester
:03:35. > :03:38.City Council has future budgets. The mayor accused the Government.
:03:38. > :03:42.The Peak District National Park Authority is asking people to stop
:03:42. > :03:46.planting ashtrays to prevent the spread of a disease.
:03:46. > :03:56.It also wants people to contact them if they've planted ashtrays in
:03:56. > :03:56.
:03:56. > :04:06.the last six years. No cases of the have been found in the park. -- ash
:04:06. > :04:10.
:04:10. > :04:14.What about Nadine Dorries in the jungle? I haven't been voting for