:01:20. > :01:22.Cameron tells us almost fifty thousand jobs have been created in
:01:22. > :01:32.our region. And a striking miner and a
:01:32. > :01:32.
:01:32. > :38:05.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2193 seconds
:38:05. > :38:07.businessman give us their views on look at the fight for a living wage
:38:07. > :38:10.and are legion and on the day the Bishop of Grantham criticises the
:38:10. > :38:15.cost of Baroness Thatcher 's funeral, we ask, what did you do for
:38:15. > :38:21.you? Joining in this week is the Conservative MP for Derbyshire South
:38:21. > :38:26.who praised Margaret Thatcher in this -- the House of Commons.
:38:26. > :38:32.And the Labour MP for Bassetlaw. More on that in a moment but first,
:38:32. > :38:35.David Cameron has been on the patch and telling us there is good news.
:38:35. > :38:45.One of the two Rolls-Royce, the Prime Minister said the economy is
:38:45. > :38:45.
:38:45. > :38:47.generating tens of thousands of jobs. I think we have seen some good
:38:47. > :38:51.progress. Here in the East Midlands, 48,000 new private-sector jobs this
:38:51. > :38:54.year. That is good progress. We have seen a growth partnership set up
:38:54. > :38:59.with the government committing �1 billion over the next seven years to
:38:59. > :39:02.really help industries like this. We are seeing a rebalancing of the
:39:02. > :39:11.economy that we need. I would like to go faster and more export
:39:11. > :39:21.success. Where are all these new jobs? Loads of them are in South
:39:21. > :39:24.Derbyshire. Toyota is taking on 1500 people. Nestle are taking on 200
:39:24. > :39:33.people and it is growing exponentially. It sounds good for
:39:33. > :39:35.the economy. It is the antidote to Thatcherism. You do have a
:39:35. > :39:45.government spending a lot of money on advanced manufacturing centres in
:39:45. > :39:47.
:39:47. > :39:49.Sheffield with Rolls-Royce and then a new educational centre with a huge
:39:49. > :39:51.amount of money going on. It is the government supporting our industry.
:39:51. > :39:55.I applaud that. The government should be doing more to support the
:39:55. > :39:58.industry. So the economy is on the way up? I wish it was. This is a one
:39:58. > :40:02.off with Rolls-Royce. It is the right to do but what about the rest
:40:02. > :40:11.of the economy. We are seeing no growth. We have had a lot of tweets
:40:11. > :40:16.from people saying that these are all paid or part-time jobs. I regret
:40:16. > :40:19.to say they are very poorly informed. They are superior jobs,
:40:19. > :40:27.they are quality jobs, they are training jobs and they are going to
:40:27. > :40:29.have jobs for the future. Nestle have invested �200 million. We have
:40:29. > :40:34.brought business back from China. We now have proper class Manufacturing
:40:34. > :40:44.and I am very proud of it. Jobs are jobs aren't they? People are hungry
:40:44. > :40:46.for any kinds of jobs going but we are our industrial base? What is the
:40:47. > :40:49.government doing about it and why haven't we got growth in the
:40:49. > :40:52.economy? We are falling behind the rest of the world once by month. The
:40:52. > :41:02.dusty mature party always seems to go to Rolls-Royce. Why do they
:41:02. > :41:02.
:41:02. > :41:10.always go the? Fortunately, David Cameron came to Nestle as well. We
:41:10. > :41:20.do our bit and South Derbyshire. Obviously I would love him to come
:41:20. > :41:28.to healthcare. They are going to spend another 150,000. 75% of the
:41:28. > :41:31.English market they have. They are taking on another 25 people as well.
:41:32. > :41:34.If you are in work, how much would you say you need to get by? A
:41:34. > :41:37.campaign is trying to persuade councils and businesses to be a
:41:37. > :41:39.living wage. That is a way to link to the easy cost of living. It is
:41:39. > :41:44.reckoned that must for hundred thousand people are paid a lot. --
:41:44. > :41:51.paid below it. Just smell the coffee. The strategy of one Tory
:41:51. > :41:55.poster on testing the political mood. His business in Nottingham
:41:55. > :42:04.supplies copy to restaurants, cafes and hotels. He is also bring up a
:42:04. > :42:06.political debate over low heat. -- over low pay. His latest recruit,
:42:06. > :42:13.19-year-old Josh, helps out. He is paid more than the national minimum
:42:13. > :42:18.wage will get --. A living wage is calculated by independent people who
:42:18. > :42:25.have worked out just how much things cost and how much you need. It is a
:42:25. > :42:33.realistic figure. At the moment the national minimum wage is �6 19p.
:42:33. > :42:35.living wage would add an extra �1 26p, bringing it up to �7 65. The
:42:35. > :42:42.question is whether the living wage should replace the national minimum
:42:42. > :42:52.wage by law. As a taxpayer, I do not like the idea of not being people
:42:52. > :42:54.enough money because they go on benefits. That extra in the hourly
:42:54. > :42:59.wage rate would make such a difference for these two canteen
:42:59. > :43:02.workers. Tracy and Rose worked for Nottinghamshire County Council. They
:43:02. > :43:06.are paid above the legally enforced national minimum but only just. I am
:43:06. > :43:16.a single mother with two children. At the end of every month, my money
:43:16. > :43:22.runs out. I look to borrow money from my mother. She is a pensioner.
:43:22. > :43:31.At the end of the month, I have to work 30 hours a week and come home
:43:31. > :43:37.and do other things I have to do. I have bills to pay. The way I live
:43:37. > :43:47.now is that I am putting more in my bells and even in my food. It would
:43:47. > :43:49.make me a lot more comfortable and it would help a lot to bring up my
:43:49. > :43:51.children. An estimated 4.8 million workers get less than the so-called
:43:51. > :43:57.living wage. That is 20% of the working population. Given East
:43:57. > :44:03.Midlands, it is at 22% which is why campaigners are targeting local
:44:03. > :44:09.governments. What about those people currently earning �7.45 who would
:44:09. > :44:18.therefore expect your own salary to incrementally rise? It would add a
:44:18. > :44:20.huge amount to Council wage bills across the East Midlands and that is
:44:20. > :44:26.something that council tax payers can ill afford the month.
:44:26. > :44:30.telling that to this man. He is one of seven children and his family and
:44:30. > :44:33.is campaigning for the living wage because of the adverse his mum, a
:44:33. > :44:36.cleaner, has to put in. If it is happening to me, it is happening to
:44:36. > :44:44.my little sister and a lot of other young people around Nottingham as
:44:44. > :44:49.well. A lot of people feel ashamed about how much they are working. A
:44:49. > :44:53.living wage to more accurately reflect living cost. It is winning
:44:54. > :45:01.some political support at like strong copy, it may need sweet
:45:01. > :45:05.running to suit everyone's tastes. Why shouldn't everyone expect a
:45:05. > :45:12.living wage? You can't live without one. The difficulty is that you have
:45:12. > :45:15.to have productivity to pay for it. Particularly when the unions are
:45:15. > :45:20.trying to highlight that this is an issue for local council, we are very
:45:20. > :45:27.proud that we haven't put up our local council tax for two years.
:45:27. > :45:33.People who are on fixed incomes cannot afford for these things to be
:45:33. > :45:40.going up. We have the money going to come from? Bassetlaw district
:45:40. > :45:43.Council has signed up to this hasn't it? Here we have another well-paid
:45:43. > :45:47.MP telling cleaners and caretakers that they shouldn't be getting seven
:45:47. > :45:52.or �8 an hour. This is what people need to live on. We need to be
:45:52. > :45:55.encouraging work. Every council and every employer should be bringing
:45:55. > :46:03.and the living wage. It motivates people and these people spend their
:46:03. > :46:05.money and the economy. That creates jobs. Is there a danger that if you
:46:05. > :46:10.start paying people are living wage, people bother up the line would want
:46:10. > :46:12.to do? How can we afford that? That is the problem. That is regularly
:46:13. > :46:18.start getting into problems about how much it is going to cost to run
:46:18. > :46:21.a council. Instead of giving millionaires huge tax cuts, squash
:46:21. > :46:30.the people of little bit at the top. They will not notice it. At the
:46:30. > :46:36.bottom, it will make a huge difference. Because we have taken
:46:36. > :46:46.the tax threshold up to 9400, these people will not be paying tax at all
:46:46. > :46:47.
:46:47. > :46:49.so weird looking after them. So we are looking after them. There is
:46:49. > :46:55.opportunity for employers, including local authorities in the public
:46:55. > :47:00.sector to PED since wage to all their employers. The lowest paid the
:47:01. > :47:05.server increase. Is it cost-effective and good for morale?
:47:05. > :47:08.Absolutely. Every employer understands the worst of their
:47:08. > :47:17.employees. If they can afford it, fantastic but you have to have
:47:17. > :47:22.greater productivity for it. Are you saying that that Tory council did
:47:22. > :47:27.the wrong thing? Every council needs to understand where the money is
:47:27. > :47:29.going to come from. If you are talking 13 people, you can maybe
:47:29. > :47:34.find it but if you are talking 3000 people, maybe you can't find.
:47:34. > :47:41.Vessels need prioritise at the moment. They? Productivity, cleaners
:47:41. > :47:44.who are cleaning toilets, they should be paid a living wage. That
:47:44. > :47:49.is what this is about. Local authorities should take the lead.
:47:49. > :47:55.Well done Bassetlaw Council for doing it. It's the other councils
:47:55. > :47:58.and other employers doing the same thing. It doesn't sound a novel lot
:47:58. > :48:08.to some people but it would be a -- a big difference to some wouldn't
:48:08. > :48:08.
:48:08. > :48:12.it? I stress again, the tax levels have been raised enormously so you
:48:12. > :48:14.have to earn a lot of money before you start paying any tax at all.
:48:14. > :48:20.think these people will find that they are the level where they will
:48:20. > :48:24.not be paying any tax and that is the difference. Local councils are
:48:24. > :48:26.in the front line when it comes to the campaign for a living wage but
:48:27. > :48:32.that is just one of the many issues facing them as they approach those
:48:32. > :48:35.crucial County Council elections in three weeks time. In the run-up, we
:48:35. > :48:44.will be hearing from the leaders of the main parties in each county are
:48:44. > :48:46.starting this week with Nottinghamshire. Their promises
:48:46. > :48:53.include, a freeze on council tax, increasing spending on roads and
:48:53. > :48:56.pothole repairs, and for every school to have a school hall.
:48:56. > :48:59.have promised not to be council tax up for the next two years. I am well
:48:59. > :49:03.aware of how little money people have to spend and we still have to
:49:03. > :49:06.provide services. We have already succeeded in finding savings there.
:49:06. > :49:16.Therefore, I know we can do it again without cutting back on those
:49:16. > :49:25.
:49:25. > :49:27.services. Alan Rhodes leads the Labour group. They say that jobs,
:49:27. > :49:30.skills and training are priority. They are promising extra care
:49:30. > :49:34.housing for the elderly and a 20 mile an hour limit outside schools.
:49:34. > :49:39.A Labour authority will offer a fairness in difficult times to the
:49:39. > :49:47.people of Nottinghamshire. We know that we are in a difficult financial
:49:47. > :49:49.situation but at the same time, we must prioritise local government
:49:49. > :49:53.services to those people in our communities who do so desperately
:49:53. > :49:56.need them. We will be putting people first. We will be prioritising those
:49:56. > :50:06.most disadvantaged communities and we will be offering fairness in very
:50:06. > :50:07.
:50:07. > :50:13.difficult times. Liberal Democrat's pledges include, freezing council
:50:13. > :50:17.tax for one year at least, no cut and library services and sure start
:50:17. > :50:19.and �1 million extra for road repairs. I think if people want a
:50:19. > :50:24.stronger council that runs taxis fairly but delivers social fairness,
:50:24. > :50:29.then you cannot trust that either of the other two parties. Liberal
:50:29. > :50:34.Democrats will keep taxes low and other social policies. -- and
:50:34. > :50:39.deliver social policies. Next week will be hearing from the party
:50:39. > :50:43.leaders in Derbyshire. We can't hold our politicians back any longer.
:50:43. > :50:46.Let's talk Margaret Thatcher. One example, she also had a major impact
:50:46. > :50:49.here in the East Midlands. Joining us to debate how her policies change
:50:50. > :50:59.their lives, we have Les Raine, a former striking miner from
:51:00. > :51:00.
:51:00. > :51:07.Nottinghamshire. Les, where you celebrating when you heard of
:51:07. > :51:10.Baroness Thatcher 's death? Celebrating is a strong word.
:51:10. > :51:19.end of the day, somebody has died but I certainly didn't mourn her
:51:19. > :51:21.passing. Some of the people who have been celebrating, you have got to
:51:21. > :51:25.understand that some of those people have been given an opportunity to
:51:25. > :51:30.vent some of their anger and frustration that built up during her
:51:30. > :51:38.time in office. They possibly feel that they have never had an
:51:38. > :51:43.opportunity to do so because prior to this, you're not going to wake up
:51:43. > :51:48.one morning and say let's have a party to celebrate. It is like any
:51:48. > :51:51.other leader of any other organisation. When leaders die, you
:51:51. > :51:54.have people who will rejoice and your people who will mourn. Whether
:51:54. > :52:02.you are rejoicing or morning, will depend on what section of the
:52:02. > :52:12.society you Ireland. What did Margaret Thatcher mean to you?
:52:12. > :52:14.
:52:14. > :52:21.from an area which was in the industry. What she did for the
:52:21. > :52:28.working-class in freeing them has led me to where I am today. You are
:52:28. > :52:33.saying that she inspired you? She inspired me to go into business as
:52:33. > :52:41.she has done for many working-class people. She privatised a lot of
:52:41. > :52:49.these big businesses. These working-class had opportunities to
:52:49. > :52:52.play a part in businesses that they worked on by buying shares etc.
:52:52. > :52:56.there to say that the reaction we've had from some of our viewers on our
:52:56. > :52:58.Facebook page has been mainly about the hardship people based during the
:52:58. > :53:04.Thatcher years and they haven't been terribly complementary either. What
:53:04. > :53:08.do you see to someone like Les who lost his job and says his community
:53:08. > :53:11.was destroyed by Thatcher's policies? I think it is very
:53:11. > :53:21.unfortunate. History is being rewritten because the miners in
:53:21. > :53:24.
:53:24. > :53:29.South Derbyshire, half of them work is we didn't strike. We have
:53:29. > :53:37.villages where families are split, villages where you go to one pub
:53:37. > :53:47.rather than the other. What I am saying is dot mac she polarised
:53:47. > :53:50.
:53:50. > :53:59.opinions. We may not be having this debate on any other conservative
:53:59. > :54:06.leaders. You lived through the Thatcher years and lived in those
:54:06. > :54:16.mining areas in Nottinghamshire. you go to those communities and ask
:54:16. > :54:19.
:54:19. > :54:22.those people in those communities, some of them have never recovered.
:54:22. > :54:25.There was nothing there. The thing that fits those communities was the
:54:25. > :54:31.mains. There was nothing to replace that. Working-class people were also
:54:31. > :54:34.liberated by her policies, what do you say to that? She doubled up
:54:34. > :54:37.unemployment and had mortgage rates at 12%. She had inflation at 9%. She
:54:37. > :54:42.had growth in the economy so she left an economic disaster. Then we
:54:42. > :54:49.have got what and electric and gas privatised and we are all paying
:54:49. > :54:59.huge bills because of that. What there is as private sector making
:54:59. > :55:00.
:55:00. > :55:06.vast amount on the back of all others. What about that? Would it be
:55:06. > :55:16.profitable? The thing is that is going back to the mains, they were
:55:16. > :55:20.
:55:20. > :55:27.not making money. It is a business. The Australians are making a profit
:55:27. > :55:37.out of coal and we can't because we have shut the collieries. I don't
:55:37. > :55:37.
:55:37. > :55:44.think it is as simple as a profit and loss basis. The communities
:55:44. > :55:53.looked after each other. Maybe it is not just people who are rewriting
:55:53. > :55:56.history. Let's leave history rewriting alone and let's talk about
:55:56. > :55:59.today. The Bishop of Grantham has said that the cost of a funeral is a
:55:59. > :56:03.mistake. You would believe that the funeral should be more low-key and
:56:03. > :56:06.personal. I think it is absolutely wrong and I cannot believe he has
:56:06. > :56:14.come out with this statement. doesn't sound like a very Christian
:56:14. > :56:17.statement. He thinks it is not going to help this situation by having a
:56:17. > :56:19.big show. When you look at other funerals in the past, there has been
:56:19. > :56:25.a private funeral and then a national memorial, you and
:56:25. > :56:35.Westminster Abbey or other. This is going to be on funeral and on the,
:56:35. > :56:36.
:56:36. > :56:42.that is it. Did we not have a parliament that costs a lot of money
:56:42. > :56:46.anyway? Not because this is for the nation to see what is going on.
:56:46. > :56:51.Parliamentarians want to talk and pay tribute to a massive
:56:51. > :56:58.parliamentarian. She was a brilliant parliamentarian and I don't want
:56:58. > :57:00.history rewritten about that. reckon recognise that Margaret
:57:00. > :57:06.Thatcher had some very fine leadership qualities and that most
:57:06. > :57:08.people the country would be that there are things they are but when
:57:08. > :57:10.you talk about a nation, which nation are you talking about? The
:57:10. > :57:18.ones that prospered under Thatcher or the ones that didn't? You have
:57:18. > :57:28.absolutely got the wrong idea. Jason Doctor O'Dell about the fact there
:57:28. > :57:32.
:57:32. > :57:35.were a lot of people who owned their own houses. Let's talk about the
:57:35. > :57:41.impact that Baroness Thatcher 's death could have on the upcoming
:57:41. > :57:44.council elections. It could go either way couldn't it? It will have
:57:44. > :57:47.no impact whatsoever. Everybody is reminiscing about the Thatcher
:57:47. > :57:57.years. It will have no impact because people will go about their
:57:57. > :57:58.
:57:58. > :58:03.everyday lives. It is right that she has a funeral but no politician
:58:03. > :58:08.should have the funeral paid for by the state. Not Margaret Thatcher,
:58:08. > :58:16.not Tony Blair, no politician should ever have to all edition paid for by
:58:16. > :58:25.the state. It is fundamentally wrong. How do you feel about this?
:58:25. > :58:34.It is one funeral. The costs are going to escalate with people
:58:34. > :58:42.protesting about it. Because we have to put in place police officers to
:58:42. > :58:48.oversee and ensure nothing escalates to far. That increases costs. They
:58:48. > :58:56.are talking about arrest is happening on the day. Thank you very
:58:56. > :59:06.much. Time for a roundup of the other political stories in the East
:59:06. > :59:08.
:59:08. > :59:10.Midlands this week. Lester's Deputy Mayor has been
:59:10. > :59:15.chosen as a Labour candidate for the East Midlands for the European
:59:15. > :59:19.Parliament. He has been asked on Twitter if he will step down from
:59:19. > :59:21.the Deputy Mayor's role to campaign but he says he will only leave if he
:59:22. > :59:24.is elected to Europe in next year's elections.
:59:24. > :59:28.Derbyshire's Fire and Rescue Service has signed up nine councils to its
:59:28. > :59:33.campaign to install more walking -- Watters fingers and homes. They have
:59:33. > :59:38.put together a bunch of the hundred and �60,000 to pay for the systems
:59:38. > :59:40.which significantly reduce damage caused by fire. Nottingham City
:59:40. > :59:44.Council is offering advice on switching to lower fuel bills are
:59:44. > :59:48.people in the city. Council is holding sessions and libraries and
:59:48. > :59:54.information on its website to calculate how to save money.
:59:54. > :59:58.MPs are to get a taste of Derbyshire this week. A food fair at the
:59:58. > :00:06.counties to these products is being held in the House of Commons.
:00:06. > :00:16.Organisers hope the exposure will help local businesses to flourish.
:00:16. > :00:18.
:00:18. > :00:21.Sounds tasty? It is going to be brilliant. What is known for? I am
:00:21. > :00:31.taking two producers from South Derbyshire. One produces wine and
:00:31. > :00:38.