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:01:24. > :01:34.violence on the increase. What is being done? Will the new care will

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:01:34. > :32:40.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1865 seconds

:32:40. > :32:49.ease the cost of looking after your violence on the increase and future

:32:49. > :32:58.funding uncertain. And more money for carers. Why have a legislation

:32:58. > :33:03.in place. But the question of how you fund that. Jessica Lee and Liz

:33:03. > :33:08.Kendall join me today. The big story this week has been the Queen's

:33:08. > :33:18.speech. The announcement around social care will be of particular

:33:18. > :33:23.interest to those. Jessica, what is there in that speech that will

:33:23. > :33:27.directly help us here in the East Midlands? There are lots of points

:33:27. > :33:32.in the speech. The key issue is immigration for me and for my

:33:32. > :33:35.constituents. The reason why that is important because it goes to

:33:35. > :33:44.measures to tackle things like private landlords, making sure they

:33:44. > :33:47.get references on people's immigration status. These affect

:33:47. > :33:53.issues with people seeking housing as well as the wider policy issues

:33:53. > :33:59.for the country, like deportation measures. Is that something you

:33:59. > :34:04.wanted to hear? What I wanted to hear is some proper action to get

:34:04. > :34:09.growth in this region. We have got so many of our young people who are

:34:09. > :34:13.unemployed. Young people have been unemployed for more than a year have

:34:13. > :34:20.gone up by more than a quarter, just as they have gone up in Lincoln and

:34:20. > :34:24.Sherwood. Those young people deserve a better chance and life. Do you

:34:24. > :34:29.think people are not interested in immigration? They are, they want

:34:29. > :34:36.tough and fair system. But they also want jobs and growth so they can pay

:34:36. > :34:44.their bills and that young people have a future. Are your priorities

:34:44. > :34:49.wrong? I disagree with what she has said. The measures for tackling

:34:49. > :34:56.immigration will help people. The second point is that the government

:34:56. > :35:04.is absolutely giving top priority to jobs and helping people get into

:35:04. > :35:08.work. That is why we had a jobs fair last year in which over 1000 people

:35:08. > :35:13.attended. I will have another one later this year. All these issues

:35:13. > :35:20.are to help businesses employ people. We will be focusing on the

:35:20. > :35:25.Care Bill. Domestic violence is on the increase. It has become a

:35:25. > :35:35.priority for the newly elected police and crime commission. Let's

:35:35. > :35:51.

:35:51. > :35:56.look at the figures from our police one force is tackling this problem.

:35:56. > :35:59.First we have been to Leicester to talk to an adviser who works on the

:35:59. > :36:06.frontline helping people who have been victims of violence from their

:36:06. > :36:11.partners. She has seen an increase in people seeking help. I have been

:36:11. > :36:17.supporting a lot of people. It is mostly women, but there are some men

:36:17. > :36:23.that are in domestic violent relationships. There is somewhere

:36:23. > :36:29.for them to go. With victim support you get the emotional support, you

:36:29. > :36:36.get some practical support. Joining us to discuss this issue is the

:36:36. > :36:41.deputy police and crime Commissioner for Nottinghamshire. You manage a

:36:41. > :36:46.women 's aid charity before you took on this new post. You know it is a

:36:46. > :36:51.big problem and when you know very well. This alarming rise in

:36:51. > :36:57.Nottinghamshire, up more than 3000, what are you doing about it? I do

:36:57. > :37:00.not think it is alarming. I think domestic violence is being reported.

:37:00. > :37:07.What we know is that one in three women in this country experienced

:37:07. > :37:11.domestic violence at some point in their lives. Is that alarming? It is

:37:11. > :37:18.an exceptionally alarming number. But more people reporting to the

:37:18. > :37:24.fleas can only be a good thing. are you doing about -- that doing

:37:24. > :37:33.about it to stop it? It was one of the priorities and plan this year it

:37:33. > :37:36.is a priority of the many police and crime Commissioner plans. It is all

:37:37. > :37:44.about partnership working. It is about making sure that organisations

:37:44. > :37:49.are funded properly, voluntary organisations. It is about making

:37:49. > :37:55.men help by doing their part. It is about making sure that even

:37:55. > :38:00.education and doing their part. Chris worked in women's aid. She has

:38:00. > :38:04.come to this with all this experience. You left your job to

:38:04. > :38:09.raise the profile of this very issue. I thought it was important

:38:09. > :38:13.that I had listened to victims for seven years, and I bring that

:38:13. > :38:17.prospective into the police and crime Commissioner's office. Money

:38:17. > :38:24.matters and something like this. If you do not have money to fund these

:38:25. > :38:29.projects, that affect that. Are you finding these projects. Yes, �40

:38:29. > :38:35.million has been ring fenced. It is a real priority for government.

:38:35. > :38:38.There are ministers such as Helen Grant and other MPs who have a

:38:38. > :38:43.background in working in family law, understanding how difficult it can

:38:43. > :38:49.be to deport and take action and get out of these difficult situations.

:38:49. > :38:55.Once the money is allocated, it is up to the police and crime

:38:55. > :39:02.Commissioner is to prioritise them. It has been a big priority in

:39:02. > :39:07.Leicester. Iran's a charity called the maternity Alliance before I

:39:07. > :39:14.became an MP and so how most new cases of domestic violence start

:39:14. > :39:24.when women is pregnant. That can destroy the life chances of

:39:24. > :39:26.

:39:26. > :39:30.children. So the NHS, health visitors have a rule. They say it as

:39:30. > :39:37.a sign that more people are coming forward. You can make some very

:39:37. > :39:43.practical changes. In pubs and clubs, in Leicester you can see

:39:43. > :39:48.their phone numbers on the back of toilet doors. We all have to play

:39:48. > :39:55.our part. I think lots of organisations and agencies are

:39:55. > :40:00.getting results. People are asking all the time if women are safe, if

:40:01. > :40:06.they feel safe, if anyone has hurt them. It is a standard question that

:40:06. > :40:16.midwives and health visitors now ask. We have a pilot of clear a

:40:16. > :40:21.small at the moment. -- clears law. How many people are taking part?

:40:21. > :40:26.have not got the figures on me. It is lesson we thought that would take

:40:26. > :40:33.it up. There are lots of reasons that women do not take it up. It is

:40:33. > :40:40.a complicated thing to do, it is very bureaucratic. And it doesn't

:40:40. > :40:45.necessarily make women safer. It is only possible if the perpetrator has

:40:45. > :40:51.got a conviction or is known to the police. The campaigns that are being

:40:51. > :40:56.run, you need to access people, and following on from once the police

:40:56. > :41:03.have taken the role, when it goes to the prosecuting authorities, there

:41:03. > :41:08.is an in crease in conviction rates for domestic violence. We need to

:41:08. > :41:13.learn from what we did with the use just a sport nationally. Dropped all

:41:13. > :41:20.the partners together, set the minimum standards. We are looking at

:41:20. > :41:24.whether we should have a similar thing for domestic violence. That

:41:24. > :41:29.would make a difference in some parts of the country. It is

:41:29. > :41:34.something we have not done in the past? We haven't done enough to get

:41:34. > :41:37.the different agencies together. say that you are all working

:41:37. > :41:43.together with the communities and you're more sensitive to these

:41:43. > :41:47.issues. Is it making a difference? I think we have to wait awhile to see

:41:47. > :41:51.what difference police crime Commissioner's make. It is on their

:41:51. > :41:57.agenda is on their agendas to make sure that domestic violence these

:41:57. > :42:04.priority. We want to see people as passionate as this woman across the

:42:04. > :42:09.country. Then we might have a better chance of that if we have something

:42:09. > :42:19.nationally, bringing all the different parties together. It is

:42:19. > :42:20.

:42:20. > :42:24.also about accessing young people and making them away. If we also

:42:24. > :42:28.include things like or worse of control, this is the reality, the

:42:28. > :42:31.statute needs to move with the times. We have topped about how much

:42:31. > :42:40.the police and crime Commissioner is a paying staff, how many they have

:42:41. > :42:45.been recruiting. Are you all worth it? I hope we are all worth it. We

:42:46. > :42:49.inherited staff from what was there before and the police authority. Our

:42:49. > :42:52.office costs less than it did before. Thank you very much for

:42:52. > :42:56.joining me. Let's take a closer look at another

:42:56. > :43:01.measure in the Queens speech. It is one that will affect tens of

:43:01. > :43:08.thousands of people dear in the East Midlands. Capping care costs for the

:43:08. > :43:12.elderly. Liz Coleman has been finding out what it means for carers

:43:12. > :43:17.here. I am going to talk to two people who

:43:17. > :43:22.will feel the effects of the new changes in the care system.

:43:22. > :43:28.Crossroads care provides health and support to over 600 carers in the

:43:28. > :43:33.community. I know you are caring for your mum

:43:33. > :43:38.and now it is your dad. What are the hard facts and terms of the care

:43:38. > :43:44.system? There are almost 7 million carers in the UK at the present

:43:44. > :43:49.time. They are people who are caring for a friend or a relative at home

:43:49. > :43:56.and that individual has also served temporary or permanent disability.

:43:56. > :44:02.Those carers are saving our economy around about �119 billion a year.

:44:02. > :44:12.The new Care Bill, is that a positive? It is a positive, yes. Up

:44:12. > :44:13.

:44:13. > :44:20.until now the assessment process, needs assessment, which then

:44:20. > :44:25.includes allocation of services, a that focus to ensure that the killer

:44:26. > :44:30.is equally as in that process. I think one of the biggest issues we

:44:30. > :44:40.have is to try and raise awareness to the point where these carers know

:44:40. > :44:44.

:44:44. > :44:48.that they are entitled to have some support. -- Taylor. -- the Keeler.

:44:48. > :44:56.If they do not have a good family network. If they have not got

:44:56. > :45:00.friends and neither is who rally round and for, you wouldn't call.

:45:00. > :45:06.there is one more thing that the government is can help some delight

:45:06. > :45:11.yourself, Christine, what would that be? The easy answer to that question

:45:11. > :45:17.is more money, of course it is. But for many years the health service

:45:17. > :45:23.and social care services have not been worked -- working in

:45:23. > :45:27.partnership together. It is very clear that when all health

:45:27. > :45:33.professionals, whether that be in social care or in the hospitals,

:45:33. > :45:39.when they come together and look at the provision of health and the peer

:45:39. > :45:48.services, there are innovative ways of providing clear services that are

:45:48. > :45:54.much more cost-effective. -- care as they are. They are trying to go in

:45:54. > :45:59.the right direction, but worries me is it is right having in place, but

:46:00. > :46:08.this question of how you fund that, obviously if you are going to meet

:46:08. > :46:13.carers needs. --, as proposed in the bill, the money has to come from

:46:13. > :46:17.somewhere to find the ways of supporting those carers. We are in a

:46:17. > :46:22.recession. Things are being cut. So where are they going to get the

:46:22. > :46:29.money from to implement the bill and put it in place to actually make a

:46:29. > :46:36.difference. Lots of questions there. Patricia is someone who has cared

:46:36. > :46:41.for both of her parents. Is that something she should have? This is

:46:41. > :46:47.such a huge and important bill. Common-sense has prevailed. We have

:46:47. > :46:55.60 years of legislation, over a dozen acts of Parliament, at long

:46:55. > :47:00.last it has been put together so the carers and the caring -- the people

:47:00. > :47:08.who are being cared for, have been put together to make sure they are

:47:08. > :47:14.looked after. I have confidence that parliamentarians will have a period

:47:14. > :47:18.of time to go through that Bill. It is cross-party that this is a

:47:18. > :47:25.sensible way forward. The devil is in the detail, we have got to get

:47:25. > :47:30.this right. With your brief, Liz, you must be pleased that this has

:47:30. > :47:33.been pushed up the political agenda? The former Labour government

:47:33. > :47:40.initiated the review of the legislation that is now led this

:47:40. > :47:43.Bill. I am determined to make sure that people and their family carers

:47:43. > :47:48.get the best possible deal out of it. But this legislation on its own

:47:48. > :47:57.will not solve the desperate crisis that is engulfing care in this

:47:57. > :48:04.country. I think we need a much bigger and bolder response. In parts

:48:04. > :48:11.of the country where there have been joined at services in one system,

:48:11. > :48:15.which we are proposing, one single care system covering the NHS. They

:48:15. > :48:18.have realised that if they help carers do what they want to do,

:48:18. > :48:27.which is look after their loved one, it is better for them, the person

:48:27. > :48:31.they care for and it saves money. Families, caring for the way they do

:48:31. > :48:36.for their loved ones at home, you would be worse off. They are doing

:48:36. > :48:46.it themselves voluntarily. What this bill is trying to do is to get the

:48:46. > :48:56.right balance. Yes, family members are involved in caring. What local

:48:56. > :48:56.

:48:56. > :49:04.authorities are providing has got to be correct. We need to get it right.

:49:04. > :49:07.Services are being cut by a third. I don't think the government realises

:49:07. > :49:12.the sheer scale of the crisis that is happening. There is a way

:49:12. > :49:20.forward, one system that looks at people's health and social care

:49:20. > :49:24.needs together. We should have one point of access, one phone number,

:49:24. > :49:30.one source of information for people not having to tell the story many

:49:30. > :49:37.times. We topped about a cap, we heard it was 72 thousand pounds. But

:49:37. > :49:42.it was not spelt out in the Queens speech. That is the figure that I

:49:42. > :49:45.have heard. That is why now we have, over the next weeks and

:49:45. > :49:54.months, we will have a detailed debate now about the detail of

:49:54. > :50:04.everything in the Queens speech. People at the moment are facing

:50:04. > :50:09.selling their homes. The cat does not cover your fool care costs. The

:50:09. > :50:14.way that it works is that the first person to benefit will not be until

:50:14. > :50:18.four or five years into the next Parliament. That is a long way away,

:50:18. > :50:26.and in the meantime people are suffering. We need to do something

:50:26. > :50:29.now to tackle the real crisis and care. I would say that the last

:50:29. > :50:39.government had 13 years to progress this matter. At least now we are

:50:39. > :50:41.

:50:41. > :50:51.getting on with it. This is urgent, isn't it? Will this Bill clear all

:50:51. > :50:54.

:50:54. > :50:56.these solutions up once and for all? -- this confusion. It is very easy

:50:56. > :51:01.to frighten people and start saying that things are still going to be

:51:01. > :51:06.just as bad. I don't think that is the most constructive approach. We

:51:06. > :51:10.have to have the detail on this. They want to know what you will be

:51:10. > :51:15.doing! That is why we will be debating it at great length in the

:51:15. > :51:22.House of Commons, and I very much look forward to doing that. The

:51:22. > :51:32.Secretary of State has then looking at that. -- Secretary of State for

:51:32. > :51:39.

:51:39. > :51:45.health. When they realised... We do not know what it will be.

:51:45. > :51:51.Christine Alexander the chief executive of Crossroads care has a

:51:51. > :51:54.question for both of you on another care issue. There are 700,000 young

:51:54. > :51:59.carers in this country and they are not mentioned in the bill. What can

:51:59. > :52:04.be done for them to make sure they are protected from the caring role?

:52:04. > :52:08.What can you do for these young carers? I think this is an issue

:52:08. > :52:13.that is going to have more involvement cross-party. It is

:52:13. > :52:19.definitely going to be raised. I will be raising it, I will be happy

:52:19. > :52:24.to do so. We have been looking at children who need extra support in

:52:24. > :52:29.schools. I think the voice of children and their contribution in

:52:29. > :52:39.society is coming more to the fore. This is an important issue and I

:52:39. > :52:41.

:52:41. > :52:51.look forward to raising it. At the -- lever back bench are brought

:52:51. > :52:52.

:52:52. > :52:56.forward -- a Labour backbencher brought an issue forward. We on the

:52:56. > :53:05.Labour side will be pushing for them. I hope we can get some

:53:05. > :53:12.movement out of the government. Brits have organised themselves to

:53:12. > :53:19.help their -- groups in Leicester have organised themselves to be able

:53:19. > :53:23.to help each other. A private members bill raised by opposition,

:53:23. > :53:29.is not likely to make much progress. But we have a real opportunity here.

:53:29. > :53:37.I hope you are right. Now for a round-up of the other political

:53:37. > :53:44.stories in the East Midlands this week. Here is John Hess.

:53:44. > :53:52.News that bombard DA of Derby has won an �88 million contract to make

:53:52. > :53:58.real courage is for the London network has been welcomed. -- real

:53:58. > :54:08.carriages. Anna Suu Kyi has criticised what she calls appalling

:54:08. > :54:18.

:54:18. > :54:23.leaflets from UKIP in the county council elections. -- Anna Soubry.

:54:23. > :54:33.The pomp and ceremony of the Queens speech was accompanied by another

:54:33. > :54:37.

:54:37. > :54:40.division. Royal mail for sale. Queens head privatised. His bar has

:54:40. > :54:50.become a political hit on the Internet.

:54:50. > :54:56.Dennis Skinner there. Have you both got a busy week, ladies? All sorts

:54:56. > :55:00.to do. I have got my constituency this week. I have a baking class

:55:00. > :55:10.with children, which has to be good fun. Monday is the launch of the big

:55:10. > :55:15.furniture federation. Then down to Westminster, so very busy.

:55:15. > :55:19.biggest thing for me this week is on Monday we have a debate about health

:55:19. > :55:23.and social care as part of the Queens speech. I will be closing