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:01:31. > :01:36.In the East: Why there are no accurate records kept of children

:01:36. > :01:46.who go missing from care. And this is how it should be when help is at

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:01:46. > :31:45.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1799 seconds

:31:45. > :31:51.Good morning. Coming up, the government backs a baby bonding

:31:51. > :31:58.scheme is set for a nationwide roll out. A subject close to the heart

:31:58. > :32:07.of one of our MPs. Let's meet our guests. A former Labour MP and a

:32:07. > :32:13.newly selected Parliament candidate. Let's start with the elections. We

:32:13. > :32:20.learned this week that four of the MPs regions one places but you lost

:32:20. > :32:25.your ears. What went wrong? I did not get enough votes. -- you lost

:32:25. > :32:30.your us. It was time for a change. I was delighted to do it for a few

:32:30. > :32:38.years and there is a new intake of Conservative MPs and it is time for

:32:38. > :32:45.them to do it. But what went wrong? The air was a difference of

:32:45. > :32:51.division and opinion -- there was a difference of division and opinion.

:32:51. > :32:54.There were concerns about the way the leadership was going. The other

:32:54. > :32:59.slates was that people thought it should be a cheerleading thing for

:32:59. > :33:05.the Government and they won. Conservative and modernisers seem

:33:05. > :33:11.to have scored a victory over Tory traditionalists. I think that shows

:33:11. > :33:16.that there are deep divisions inside the Conservative Party and I

:33:16. > :33:21.think that is completely rebutted in what is happening outside --

:33:21. > :33:28.reflected in what is happening outside and elsewhere. In terms of

:33:28. > :33:32.the Labour Party getting its message over, I think that the

:33:32. > :33:41.divisions over substantial help to assets. That is perfectly out of

:33:41. > :33:46.the Labour spent. We will have to leave it there. I am told you are

:33:46. > :33:52.the main share of the parliamentary party are human trafficking and

:33:52. > :33:59.that has highlighted the issue of children going missing from care.

:33:59. > :34:04.It has now been revealed that there was a child that was sent to live

:34:04. > :34:10.in a care home in Essex and went missing after being abused. So how

:34:10. > :34:16.many children are being abused while they are being cared for?

:34:16. > :34:19.Some say too many and now there are new statistics that we have managed

:34:19. > :34:29.to obtain about children missing from careful study can see that the

:34:29. > :34:40.

:34:40. > :34:46.police figures -- missing. From the police figures... One fitting-out

:34:46. > :34:55.year-old -- man 15-year-old went missing over night, at 19 times in

:34:55. > :35:02.one month. For the council decided to close residential homes. We are

:35:02. > :35:09.the corporate parents. We have the or poor parenting panel -- we have

:35:09. > :35:17.the corporal parenting panel. The council is 100 % behind improving

:35:17. > :35:24.our services. A stand by those words. -- I stand by those words.

:35:24. > :35:29.We are virtually one of the last places in the country to run homes.

:35:29. > :35:33.It is horrible what that poor girl went through. You cannot be certain

:35:33. > :35:37.that this could never happen again. I do not think anyone in this

:35:37. > :35:43.situation could say it could never happen again. You cannot keep that

:35:43. > :35:48.one child in prison. He must allow a teenage girl -- you must allow a

:35:48. > :35:51.teenage girl to go to the nearest town and experience life. Even the

:35:51. > :35:56.Prime Minister was question this week about how private care homes

:35:56. > :35:59.are run. They are obviously issues about inspection and there are

:35:59. > :36:08.issues about why action was not taking and I think it is important

:36:08. > :36:15.to find out why we have not got into the bottom of this. Erratic

:36:15. > :36:20.data collection is a worrying one senior police officer. 150 local

:36:20. > :36:26.authorities have reported that there were only 920 children who

:36:26. > :36:36.went missing who were in care. My research shows that it's probably

:36:36. > :36:36.

:36:36. > :36:44.somewhere between 50071000 children. The current system -- 50071000

:36:44. > :36:54.children. We believe the current system needs to be revered --

:36:54. > :36:57.

:36:57. > :37:02.A many charities are worried by the number of children going missing

:37:02. > :37:09.and being trafficked. In five years, Ofsted reported over

:37:10. > :37:13.600 incidents that young girls being sold for sex. -- incidents of

:37:13. > :37:19.young girls being sold for sex. This man says he remembers one girl

:37:19. > :37:23.who often went missing. We would go for a day, then she would go for a

:37:23. > :37:28.week. Every time she would come back as she would come back with

:37:28. > :37:33.bruises all over her and drugs in her pocket. Our pocket money for

:37:33. > :37:38.the week was about �5 and she would come back at �20 worth of drugs.

:37:38. > :37:43.When a party is running a campaign to target young people. -- Wang

:37:44. > :37:51.authority. In we notice that a young person is coming, a number of

:37:51. > :37:59.different people -- different braises, we will have please check

:37:59. > :38:03.it out. Also, our young people are interviewed upon return. We have a

:38:03. > :38:08.buddy scheme. If a young person goes missing for three or four

:38:08. > :38:13.weeks, another someone who is in care will go in, and if they have

:38:13. > :38:16.got any problems they will come and talk to us. That is a good idea

:38:16. > :38:24.because young people feel that they can talk to other young people more

:38:24. > :38:28.than they can an adult. So enjoyed life in a care home. A new Bill

:38:28. > :38:34.will give some who are not as lucky rights to apply for compensation.

:38:34. > :38:38.But for some, these changes have come too late.

:38:38. > :38:42.The Department for Education gave as the state can call in local and

:38:42. > :38:46.national data are collected in different ways and so are not

:38:46. > :38:52.comparable. We know there is an issue and we are looking to make

:38:52. > :38:59.local statistics more transparent. Joining us is Dr Lucy Sugar, a

:38:59. > :39:01.research fellow at the International Centre for sexually

:39:02. > :39:06.exploited children. Do you have concerns over this disparity

:39:06. > :39:14.between the two sets of this special grow these two sets of

:39:14. > :39:17.figures? -- between these two sets of figures? Some research was done

:39:17. > :39:22.by the International Centre last year and it did show that where

:39:22. > :39:26.there are pockets of good practice in protecting young people, it is

:39:26. > :39:31.because the police, local authorities, workers from

:39:31. > :39:35.specialist services are working in teams. They are working in the same

:39:35. > :39:39.offices, sharing information day-in and day-out, and that is the best

:39:39. > :39:43.way to tackle exploitation. How one rubble are these young people when

:39:44. > :39:51.they go missing -- Holborn rubble are these young people when they go

:39:51. > :39:56.We do not always know that a young person is being exploited when they

:39:56. > :40:01.go missing. They may not be. But being out once or twice in a week

:40:01. > :40:07.with a carer not knowing where the young person is is clearly a

:40:07. > :40:11.concern. Is there a gap in specialist care provisions? Very

:40:11. > :40:16.clearly. There are only a handful of residential units that are

:40:16. > :40:26.specialist in working with young people who are sexually exploited.

:40:26. > :40:29.Bananas are now piloting a special foster care programme. -- Barnardos.

:40:29. > :40:33.Peter Byrne, I know that you have been out to Slovenia and you have

:40:33. > :40:38.met some of the young people who are honourable. What are the key

:40:38. > :40:43.changes you feel could protect them? -- vulnerable. The biggest

:40:43. > :40:49.scandal are at the moment in this country is that the look better

:40:49. > :40:56.after adults victims they only do after a child victims of

:40:56. > :41:00.trafficking. It is the most appalling scandal. We rescue

:41:00. > :41:04.victims who have been trafficked. Children have gone to warble

:41:04. > :41:14.exploitation and then they are traffic again and they go back

:41:14. > :41:17.again. -- or double expectation -- horrible exploitation. Scandal is a

:41:17. > :41:23.big word but I think it is the biggest scandal facing the country

:41:23. > :41:28.at the moment. Tell us some of the differences. Take the Netherlands.

:41:28. > :41:33.What they do what traffic children, they put them in a specialist unit,

:41:33. > :41:40.away secretly. A safe house. That is exactly what we do for adult.

:41:40. > :41:42.The Government spends millions protecting adult but not children.

:41:42. > :41:47.Do you think it is wise that children are taken hundreds of

:41:47. > :41:52.miles away from their original home and taken to another children's

:41:52. > :41:57.home for another authority to look after them and often they are

:41:57. > :42:07.privately run. What implications do you see there? There are real

:42:07. > :42:11.problems there. The children are vulnerable, they are not prisoners.

:42:11. > :42:18.They are not criminals. They need to have some supervision if they

:42:18. > :42:25.are placed far away. There are real issues about data sharing and the

:42:25. > :42:29.best practice sharing. I think also there is a need to recognise that,

:42:29. > :42:36.as well as looking at the needs of the children, there is a need to

:42:36. > :42:41.focus on the perpetrators and make sure that there is a tough sanction

:42:41. > :42:45.and that it Hodder's is used to deal with those people. To -- and

:42:45. > :42:49.that intelligence is used to deal with these people. Do you think

:42:49. > :42:53.that things are getting better or worse? I think there is increasing

:42:53. > :42:58.pressure on the care sector in terms of resources. I think

:42:58. > :43:02.awareness of trafficking is on the increase. That is because of the

:43:02. > :43:07.good work of people here and that is very good. There are signs that

:43:07. > :43:12.there are now some specialist accommodation units coming on board.

:43:12. > :43:16.In the context of cuts, we know that local authorities need to

:43:16. > :43:21.implement more guidance, that is of concern. Are we failing children in

:43:21. > :43:28.care? Not all of them, but some of these young people. Thank you very

:43:28. > :43:31.much indeed. We are going to move onto a scheme that is hoped to

:43:31. > :43:35.prevent problem children in the future. Research shows that babies

:43:35. > :43:39.who do not form strong bond with their mothers and the first two

:43:39. > :43:49.years of life can suffer difficulties later on. A

:43:49. > :43:54.

:43:54. > :43:59.Northamptonshire MP has established This is how it should be. This is a

:43:59. > :44:03.Wednesday topped Group and it is formed with happy mothers and

:44:03. > :44:08.children. But for some families, the reality is very different. I

:44:08. > :44:11.had postnatal depression with my first child and I know how awful it

:44:11. > :44:16.is when you feel completely helpless and you cannot even make a

:44:16. > :44:22.cup of tea without busting into tears, and it is a really hard

:44:22. > :44:28.situation. One in 10 mothers are diagnosed with a stale depression.

:44:28. > :44:37.Some experts believe that as many as 40 % of mothers are effective. -

:44:37. > :44:44.- died mayst with postnatal The new charity has just opened its

:44:44. > :44:52.second branch in north Hampshire -- Northamptonshire. The more you help

:44:52. > :44:57.people the more you can change the trigger -- the direction of the

:44:57. > :45:02.relationship of their relationships -- the relationship that they have

:45:02. > :45:07.what their children. Maybe they need a new coping mechanisms --

:45:07. > :45:11.mechanisms to help them. It can be really difficult. Researchers

:45:11. > :45:16.believe that if children are not formed an attachment to their

:45:16. > :45:22.mother by the age of two, they could be maladjusted for life and

:45:22. > :45:26.more likely to end up in care. from the cameras, therapists help

:45:26. > :45:29.mothers to bond. It is a talking therapy and it helps parents to

:45:29. > :45:34.empathise with their babies and get over the problems that they have

:45:34. > :45:38.put the idea of being parents. But the key point is that it has a

:45:38. > :45:41.fundamental impact on the developing brain of the baby.

:45:41. > :45:46.now it will be rolled out nationally. At a conference on

:45:46. > :45:50.Friday, it was revealed that �1 million had been secured in

:45:50. > :45:55.charitable contributions to open these types of charities across the

:45:55. > :45:58.country. There is high-level support. Why is the Government not

:45:59. > :46:03.binding this idea? It is very important that there is not just a

:46:04. > :46:09.state based solution. What is important is that organisations

:46:09. > :46:16.like this are able to expand. Or romance will try to find ways to

:46:16. > :46:22.support them. -- government will try. This charity is playing its

:46:22. > :46:27.part in helping families. Postnatal depression could do with a higher

:46:27. > :46:32.profile. It is good that this is a focus. I think that the work of the

:46:32. > :46:40.charity is excellent. I think it is a really good idea in helping

:46:40. > :46:44.parents. However, it has got to be seen in context. For poor families,

:46:44. > :46:49.with the charities that have been - - changes that have been made in

:46:49. > :46:56.benefits, housing pressures on families are absolutely chronic.

:46:56. > :47:00.There is research from family action that shows that housing is

:47:00. > :47:04.one of the major contributors to postnatal depression. I think this

:47:04. > :47:10.looks very good but the Government has got to walk the walk as well as

:47:10. > :47:14.talk the talk. David Cameron lodged -- launched free vouchers for

:47:14. > :47:16.parenting classes that are available on the High Street. They

:47:16. > :47:23.have already been criticised that they are not going to reach the

:47:23. > :47:27.right people. What do you say to that? I have been commenced by the

:47:28. > :47:33.Labour MP from Nottingham that early intervention is crucial. --

:47:33. > :47:37.convinced. But it has to get to the right people. I am pleased that the

:47:37. > :47:40.Government is looking at this. We have got to make sure that we do

:47:40. > :47:43.not just reached nice middle-class families who are going to look

:47:43. > :47:50.after their children anyway. We have got to reach those people who

:47:50. > :47:55.are the ones that are under society. I think it really works if you can

:47:55. > :48:02.do early intervention but to the right people. Do you think it is an

:48:02. > :48:07.omission that -- an admission that Sure Start was on the right track

:48:07. > :48:13.after all? There were criticisms of it but it might not have reached --

:48:13. > :48:16.reach all the people that needed it but it integrated and it was a

:48:16. > :48:21.place that women wanted to go because very often the women who

:48:21. > :48:23.were not go into the nice middle- class places, they wanted to go

:48:23. > :48:28.somewhere where they felt comfortable. I think it was

:48:28. > :48:34.absolutely on the right track and I think that the cuts to it had been

:48:34. > :48:38.iniquitous. Some people say this smacks of nanny state. There should

:48:38. > :48:42.be getting involved in the early intervention. If this is government

:48:42. > :48:50.PR to get a good day's headline that I will say it is a nanny state

:48:50. > :49:00.but I do not know. It is time for a political run up of the week. There

:49:00. > :49:03.

:49:03. > :49:08.Some things never change. Still advising us to get on our bikes to

:49:08. > :49:13.look for work, Norman Tebbit this week. A if they don't, they will

:49:13. > :49:16.remain small and they may shrink and disappear. A different form of

:49:16. > :49:23.transport was at the centre of the summit trying to draw up long-term

:49:23. > :49:31.plans to improve train services across the East. Good trains with

:49:31. > :49:35.regular services. An addition to the service, one MP called for the

:49:35. > :49:40.-- for one station to return to its former glory. It was an impressive

:49:40. > :49:47.building, very much at the heart of the town. Restoration of a male was

:49:47. > :49:52.the scene that inspired so many, it is now the home of a turbine stop.

:49:52. > :49:57.A new green era is being launched. Suffolk steps nearer to its goal of

:49:58. > :50:07.becoming the greenest county and the country as building starts on a

:50:08. > :50:08.

:50:08. > :50:13.Get on your bikes if you want business to succeed. People are

:50:13. > :50:21.already working so hard in these difficult times. Is it as simple as

:50:21. > :50:26.that? You can paddle and a faster. I think things happen taken out of

:50:26. > :50:29.context. What we need to do his work more efficiently as a business.

:50:29. > :50:33.Every private business is trying to do that. The role of the Government

:50:33. > :50:43.is to let business get on the King's, not put more regulation on

:50:43. > :50:45.

:50:45. > :50:50.them. -- get on with things. I am told that productivity is better in

:50:50. > :50:55.America and Europe. I think the young people do not like to work at

:50:55. > :50:59.all and what we need is a particular investment in skills for

:50:59. > :51:03.young people and job opportunities that would benefit them. We have

:51:03. > :51:08.seen youth unemployment double and the last year and I think that

:51:08. > :51:11.above all the Government should be targeting those young people and

:51:11. > :51:19.making sure there have target -- opportunities to find work. Is he