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:01:37. > :01:47.So it will start a proper -- Concession a constituents whose MP

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:01:47. > :37:29.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2142 seconds

:37:29. > :37:34.Hello and welcome to the programme. Coming up, a fresh approach to

:37:34. > :37:38.funding in Essex, and this week his election week across the region.

:37:38. > :37:45.Voters will go to the polls are to select police and Crown

:37:45. > :37:49.Commissioners will those in Corby will finally get a new MP.

:37:49. > :37:53.Today we have the Conservative MP for Bury said Edmonds and former

:37:53. > :37:59.shadow Policing Minister, and Labour's MEP for the east of the

:37:59. > :38:01.region. I want to kick off with the

:38:01. > :38:05.disappearance of the Mid Bedfordshire N P Nadine Dorries.

:38:05. > :38:09.We'll all and this week she had jetted off to the jungle to take

:38:09. > :38:15.part in a reality television show. This is what our constituents have

:38:15. > :38:20.had to say. It shows the content with which she

:38:20. > :38:26.treats the electorate. She should be dismissed.. I am ashamed of her,

:38:26. > :38:30.really. She should not be paid well she is away. She has turned her

:38:30. > :38:35.bridges and she has gone to Australia to try and manifest

:38:35. > :38:40.unpopularity. Not very happy. Should we have the

:38:40. > :38:44.power of recall here, so that voters who are unhappy with their m

:38:44. > :38:47.he can sack them? I believe in a power of recall, it

:38:47. > :38:51.has been talked about by both political parties in the last

:38:51. > :38:55.Parliament. I would not just to introduce it for Nadine Dorries,

:38:55. > :38:58.but it should be for any transgressors. Anyone the public

:38:58. > :39:03.wants to get it, like Denis McShane who has been found guilty of

:39:03. > :39:09.serious fiddling, he does not seek to be recalled he just resigned.

:39:09. > :39:13.With Nadine Dorries I see what the vox pops his, she has very few

:39:13. > :39:18.supporters. The Chief Whip was not happy, never met supporters.

:39:18. > :39:24.Are you sympathetic to those constituents, Richard? She has led

:39:24. > :39:28.to constituents unrepresented. David Cameron welcome to it because

:39:28. > :39:35.she was MP who called him the bridge Tory Boy, and he has not

:39:35. > :39:38.recovered from that. Talking about the reality TV show, on this

:39:38. > :39:43.Remembrance Sunday, and a week when the Royal Anglians have been given

:39:43. > :39:47.such a wonderful reception in Norwich and Ipswich in Basildon,

:39:47. > :39:50.this is a higher calling. That is what those in politics should

:39:50. > :39:58.reflect and Nadine Dorries very definitely has not.

:39:58. > :40:03.Davies, will she get the whip back? I do not know. Fair enough. I think

:40:03. > :40:07.her local party at local democracy will call her to account. That will

:40:07. > :40:11.be the first action. Would you like her to have the whip back? I think

:40:11. > :40:14.we should wait to see what her local party and local people think.

:40:14. > :40:18.It should be local people wanting representation, if they want her

:40:18. > :40:24.out they will get her out. It is not for David Cameron or anyone

:40:24. > :40:28.else. Ambling to read that there. I will

:40:28. > :40:33.move on to something new. This is happening in Essex. A fresh

:40:33. > :40:36.approach to the way that local services are delivered, and set to

:40:36. > :40:40.affect everything from the way that domestic violence, education and

:40:40. > :40:45.even young offenders are dealt with. It is part of the Community budget,

:40:45. > :40:49.and Essex is the largest of four areas running a trial of the scheme.

:40:49. > :40:55.Our correspondent has looked at the way that cases of domestic violence

:40:55. > :40:59.would be handled. In May, David talks was convicted

:40:59. > :41:04.of the horrific double murder of his ex-partner and their two-year-

:41:04. > :41:08.old daughter. A damning report by the IPCC said there were failings

:41:08. > :41:12.in the communication between agencies in the lead-up to death,

:41:12. > :41:17.including Essex County Council's social services and Essex police.

:41:17. > :41:21.There are other problems, too. The force deals with 32,000 domestic

:41:21. > :41:26.violence showed Kohl's paired here, but the Home Office believes this

:41:26. > :41:29.is 12,000 fewer than it should be. Senna said it took one year from

:41:29. > :41:33.the day she first reported been beaten from her ex-partner before

:41:33. > :41:37.she was able to move into a refuge. -- Sarah.

:41:37. > :41:45.She says she felt let down the social services.

:41:45. > :41:48.I do not know my own mind. I had no peace of mind for one whole year.

:41:48. > :41:53.They could have reported it to social services, social services

:41:53. > :41:58.could have come around. I have had them in my life since I have been

:41:58. > :42:02.in Refuge, and are openly welcome them. I have nothing to hide.

:42:03. > :42:06.It is hoped that this building mind me will form part of the solution.

:42:06. > :42:12.It will be Essex police in's new central referring units, to handle

:42:12. > :42:16.domestic violence calls. New buyer will be a domestic violence up, the

:42:16. > :42:19.idea is that data will be able to be shared more easily. It will also

:42:19. > :42:25.be more simple for domestic violence victims to find The Help

:42:25. > :42:29.they need. They will notice a quicker response, more dynamic risk

:42:29. > :42:33.assessment. So if an incident is reported to us, it will go straight

:42:33. > :42:41.to the sacred officers who will make a decision then and there

:42:41. > :42:44.about what the best plan is. -- to safeguard officers. At the moment

:42:44. > :42:48.there will be a slight delay as the officer must fill out a form before

:42:48. > :42:52.sending the referral on to the domestic violence team.

:42:52. > :42:56.This is part of the no -- he knew whole Essex Community budget, a

:42:56. > :43:00.pilot scheme that will see many services in the region near her

:43:00. > :43:05.eyes from scratch. New proposals submitted to the Government for

:43:05. > :43:11.approval could see savings of more than �400 million within six years.

:43:11. > :43:16.But this could lead to job losses. This is about delivering more

:43:16. > :43:21.effective and efficient services through multi-agency work. Working

:43:21. > :43:27.with the police, with health, with local Government bodies and the

:43:27. > :43:32.Ministry of Justice as well. It is about making services able to

:43:32. > :43:39.deliver continued services against increasingly difficult pressures in

:43:39. > :43:43.these times. These proposals could affect a number of different

:43:43. > :43:47.services, so several areas must give them the go-ahead. Essex

:43:47. > :43:50.County Council say they must make these reforms, many people using

:43:50. > :43:54.these services could see changes beginning next year.

:43:54. > :43:59.We caught up with the Secretary of Communities and Local Government,

:43:59. > :44:04.Eric Pickles, had asked him what community budgets would achieve.

:44:04. > :44:09.The idea is to rule this out nationally, so that when people go

:44:09. > :44:15.through the door of a local authority there is just one service

:44:15. > :44:18.there, and completely integrated service. Essex are doing something

:44:18. > :44:24.interesting, they have looked at things like domestic violence and

:44:24. > :44:30.not looking at domestic violence endure isolation. They have tidied

:44:30. > :44:33.up to school truancy and housing conditions and the like. By

:44:33. > :44:36.bringing the various agencies together they have been able to

:44:37. > :44:42.offer better services to the customer.

:44:42. > :44:47.Picking up on that, the situation in Essex at the moment is that they

:44:47. > :44:52.have 80 different organisations remain 116 different phone lines.

:44:52. > :44:57.This community budget will hat at this kind of duplication and get

:44:57. > :45:01.rid of it. It is good to have local services that work closely with

:45:01. > :45:06.women's refuges and -- in Basildon and Harlow. There are so many of

:45:06. > :45:11.them. Their close to the victims, and this is not about bureaucracy,

:45:11. > :45:18.it is about domestic violence. This terrible case in Braintree, and

:45:18. > :45:24.what did the Police Complaints Commission fined? A huge backlog.

:45:24. > :45:27.And a huge shortfall of resources. Whether it is the key organisations

:45:27. > :45:33.or one, if there is not enough money in the system the service

:45:33. > :45:38.cannot provide protection to women in that case, including a woman who

:45:38. > :45:41.died. They had to do a Freedom of Information request in every local

:45:41. > :45:47.authority in the country and it shows that a and genially half-a-

:45:47. > :45:52.million cuts already by Essex on domestic violence provision. This

:45:52. > :45:57.is the third worst in the country, so my message is, victims of

:45:57. > :46:01.domestic violence are not being protected because of cuts.

:46:01. > :46:06.Moving on to that subject of cuts, efficiency and improvements at the

:46:06. > :46:11.same time. How do you get more for less? Does the Government have a

:46:11. > :46:18.magic wand? We must separate two things out. I

:46:18. > :46:24.am in favour of this pulled budgets. Irrespective of what the funding is,

:46:24. > :46:27.it is just good Government. None of us found it acceptable about the

:46:27. > :46:31.case in London where the police were not talking to social services

:46:31. > :46:38.and vice versa, that must stop. This model could work and we are

:46:38. > :46:43.trying it out. It is separate from the cuts issue. We all know why all

:46:43. > :46:48.public services, with the exception of the Health Service, are being

:46:48. > :46:52.reduced. We have a huge deficit. It is the peacetime deficit. More with

:46:52. > :46:58.less is something that plenty of parts of Government and plenty of

:46:58. > :47:02.businesses do it hazels do it. He made a small armoured of money go

:47:02. > :47:06.far further and I do not accept that less money means were more

:47:06. > :47:10.domestic violence. Is there is separate from cuts? Is

:47:10. > :47:16.this the way to dress it up? think the one-stop-shop approach

:47:16. > :47:21.was pioneered by some local Government ministers when Labour

:47:21. > :47:26.were in administration. This is not just the Conservative idea.

:47:26. > :47:29.It was your total police initiative. I am fully in favour of the

:47:29. > :47:34.principle, but I spoke to my colleagues in Essex County Council

:47:34. > :47:38.and they said this is yet another Kinnock like every other one and it

:47:38. > :47:44.will last a few months and in a few years' time they will move on. --

:47:44. > :47:48.in yet another gimmick. They say that this is like a "big society",

:47:48. > :47:55.this is cover for taking money out of directly provided services in

:47:55. > :48:00.Essex. The outcome of that, is that services in Essex and have been

:48:00. > :48:03.provided by a third party providers at people have lost between two and

:48:03. > :48:07.�12,000 per year, so you have the poorest paid people caring for the

:48:07. > :48:11.most voluble people in our society. But you used to run a council,

:48:11. > :48:17.wouldn't you have liked to have more control over the money was

:48:17. > :48:19.spent? I have worked with people with disabilities or as well as my

:48:20. > :48:24.work in politics, and I am proud to campaign with these different

:48:24. > :48:27.groups. We have always wanted to cut down the barriers between

:48:27. > :48:36.health and social services and it has proved difficult to do so. It

:48:36. > :48:40.can only happen if there is a fair bit of faith in the system. After

:48:40. > :48:44.the long build-up, the autumn of elections reaches its peak. We will

:48:44. > :48:48.hear from more candidates in the running for the role of police and

:48:48. > :48:54.Crown Commissioners in. First, that final push for Corby. It is a

:48:54. > :48:58.result that matters, because the seats being borne by the Government

:48:58. > :49:01.at every General Election since 1983. If Labour wins Corgi it will

:49:01. > :49:10.be their first by-election gain from the Conservatives in over 15

:49:10. > :49:14.years. -- if Labour wins Corby. On Friday the Labour leader was

:49:14. > :49:18.back in Corby. His fourth visit on the campaign. I take nothing for

:49:18. > :49:21.granted, and we will fight for every vote. It is very important

:49:22. > :49:26.that the people of Corby have a representative who will stand up

:49:26. > :49:30.for them. Stand up against the squeeze in the living standards,

:49:30. > :49:32.stand up for jobs for our young people and stand up for a fairer

:49:32. > :49:36.tax system and a different direction for the country.

:49:36. > :49:40.The Prime Minister has only been here once, and for less than 90

:49:40. > :49:43.minutes. The Cabinet have all made brief

:49:43. > :49:47.appearances, well away from the cameras and many other Conservative

:49:47. > :49:51.MPs have got in to help out with campaigning. Most of my colleagues

:49:51. > :49:54.will have wanted to get through here at some stage during a

:49:54. > :49:58.campaign just to show support and show that the Conservative Party is

:49:58. > :50:05.behind the candidate at whatever anybody says, whatever you read, we

:50:05. > :50:09.are extremely proud of this Government's record.

:50:09. > :50:13.In the hustings, as on the doorsteps, the main issue has been

:50:13. > :50:17.jobs and the economy. You are out of touch with what a young people

:50:17. > :50:21.want. It is clear that many people are disillusioned with all

:50:21. > :50:25.politicians. The turnout on Thursday will be interesting.

:50:25. > :50:29.It will also be interesting to see how much the Louise Mensch factor

:50:29. > :50:33.plays in this election. He did not have to be here for long to realise

:50:33. > :50:39.that many people felt their last it he was often absent and celebrity

:50:39. > :50:44.obsessed. How will Nadine Dorries's exploits in the jungle play among

:50:44. > :50:48.supporters? You kept are hoping to benefit

:50:48. > :50:52.substantially from public disillusionment. First day could be

:50:53. > :50:57.one of the main stories of the selection. We have Conservative

:50:57. > :51:02.voters in the most shy parts of the constituency who feel very let down

:51:02. > :51:05.by unit Cameron and Labour voters furious with the Labour Party for

:51:05. > :51:08.opening up this region to of Eastern Europe.

:51:08. > :51:12.The Liberal Democrat candidate has not even taking time off work to

:51:12. > :51:15.fight this election, the party leadership knows that when you are

:51:15. > :51:20.the junior member of a coalition you face a very big up will

:51:20. > :51:23.struggle. They are trying their hardest. In the by-election you do

:51:23. > :51:29.not change the Government, you elect someone to speak up for the

:51:29. > :51:33.people of a constituency. I hope that this is what the people of

:51:33. > :51:37.Corby that parts of Northamptonshire see and understand.

:51:37. > :51:41.With 14 names on the ballot paper, the local council will lot could

:51:41. > :51:45.the vote until Friday. By this time next week, one of the longest by-

:51:45. > :51:49.election campaigns in some time will finally be over.

:51:49. > :51:54.That is the picture in Corby, let's take a final look at the candidates

:51:54. > :51:57.for the new role of police and crime commissioner. Voting is on

:51:57. > :52:01.Thursday to elect the head of or eight police forces who will have

:52:01. > :52:05.the power to hire and fire chief constables. Coming up, candidates

:52:05. > :52:11.in Norfolk but we begin with the Thames Valley force which covers

:52:11. > :52:18.Milton Keynes. He must make savings of �31.7

:52:18. > :52:22.million, and those savings will be found by 2015. Managers calculates

:52:22. > :52:25.that for and 39 people the staff and 96 officers will have to be cut

:52:25. > :52:28.to balance the books. One of the things I want to do is

:52:29. > :52:34.ensure that there is an a quality of service across the region, so

:52:34. > :52:41.nobody feels bold the dog, everyone feels they have an except -- and

:52:41. > :52:45.accessible PCC. Milton Keynes is one of our largest towns, it is

:52:45. > :52:51.very important and I watch as I chaired the performance committee,

:52:51. > :52:56.I watched the statistics on Milton Keynes very carefully. It is

:52:56. > :53:00.setting local priorities. I will have to get involved because I am

:53:00. > :53:07.conscious that in the Thames Valley area or it is a very fast area. It

:53:07. > :53:10.will not be a case of him one rule fits all, that is not the case.

:53:10. > :53:12.police and crime Commission will be responsible for all citizens

:53:12. > :53:16.anywhere in Berkshire, Buckinghamshire and Oxfordshire.

:53:16. > :53:22.That include Milton Keynes as much as Oxford and High Wycombe and

:53:22. > :53:27.slower and anyone else. I would say that every town course City will be

:53:27. > :53:32.St -- treated exactly the same, in full Furnace. The end result is to

:53:32. > :53:38.be the voice of the people, two ways and link with local

:53:38. > :53:43.communities and the local police. He I want devolved decision-making

:53:43. > :53:47.at a local level to reflect local priorities. I have been speaking to

:53:47. > :53:50.independent members of the current police authority about plans to set

:53:50. > :53:55.up police boards, to ensure that local priorities are part of the

:53:55. > :53:59.police plan. In Norfolk, savings of 25 million

:53:59. > :54:05.are needed by 2015 and the force expect to reduce the number of

:54:05. > :54:13.officers by hundred and 50 to 250. All five candidates are acutely

:54:13. > :54:16.aware of the need for more for less. The Government have delayed from

:54:16. > :54:21.November to December when they tell the police what money they will be

:54:21. > :54:25.allocated. That is what I'm concentrating on. I would also go

:54:25. > :54:31.and see whoever wins in Suffolk, because collaboration to save money

:54:31. > :54:36.has been going on and still has further to go. Part of the police

:54:36. > :54:40.role is catching criminals, the other part is preventing crime and

:54:41. > :54:44.to do that he would have voluntary organisations. A lot of pressure

:54:44. > :54:49.and input must be put on those lottery organisations to help as

:54:49. > :54:53.much as possible. I am absolutely opposed to privatisation, what we

:54:53. > :54:57.need to make sure is that policing remains accountable so the people

:54:57. > :55:01.that -- to the people they serve not Private shareholders. I cannot

:55:01. > :55:06.one small businesses over run by big businesses, or policing over

:55:06. > :55:08.run by G4S. I want to make sure that doesn't happen. The Chief

:55:08. > :55:13.Constable remains operationally responsible for his old force, and

:55:13. > :55:16.this will be the same all for England and Wales by end of this

:55:16. > :55:19.election. Well there is a role of the delivery of public service is a

:55:19. > :55:23.new business model that will enable us to get the efficiencies we need,

:55:23. > :55:28.to run up the results you want. additionally it always is old

:55:28. > :55:32.people who will vote, but many of people have spoken up that there

:55:32. > :55:35.are encouraged to vote. Whether it is for me of another candidate,

:55:35. > :55:39.seeing them people active in politics is encouraging. The police

:55:39. > :55:44.affect some people just as much as the older.

:55:44. > :55:51.In your experience as a Shadow Minister, where these roles

:55:51. > :55:55.welcomed? And have to tell you that I would all over the police

:55:55. > :55:58.authority to the country and there was not one Conservative member who

:55:58. > :56:02.supported the idea that there will be a low turnout, but you would

:56:02. > :56:07.expect that for a new kind of election. We all know what Ineke

:56:07. > :56:13.elections are read out he elections are, this is a new concept and we

:56:13. > :56:17.must work with what we have. Someone can get on the phone and

:56:17. > :56:20.speak to someone who is the police commissioner they voted for. It was

:56:20. > :56:24.kicking often do this and it went on Saturday night, there were no

:56:24. > :56:28.police, what will you do? There will be value to this, but they do

:56:28. > :56:32.not pretend that it will be popular. I'll turn it is expected, but these

:56:32. > :56:35.elections will be costly, as will the role of police and crime

:56:35. > :56:42.commissioner. Would the money not be better spent on just better

:56:42. > :56:46.policing? For David to openly admit that I give him credit that you

:56:46. > :56:50.Conservatives want these elections says a lot to Conservative voters

:56:50. > :56:56.this week. If we do not have these elections we could save money to

:56:56. > :57:00.employ 3,000 extra police officers. Most of all for me, there have been

:57:00. > :57:03.20% police cuts. There are 700 fewer police officers on the

:57:03. > :57:08.streets and very sponsor authorities across the East. If

:57:08. > :57:14.people want to say no to those cuts, noted G4S coming in and privatising

:57:14. > :57:20.air police service, though for a Labour police commissioner who will

:57:20. > :57:24.fight to keep funding. I want to squeeze in the political

:57:24. > :57:34.round-up of the week. On this Remembrance Sunday, we start with

:57:34. > :57:39.

:57:39. > :57:43.the homecoming parade of the First The First Battalion Royal Anglians

:57:43. > :57:46.marking an end to their tours of Afghanistan. Well defence minister

:57:46. > :57:51.Mark Francois pledged the Government will do everything it

:57:51. > :57:56.can to help veterans in the region. I am absolutely determined when I

:57:56. > :58:01.have this job that he will do everything we can to provide care

:58:01. > :58:04.for our servicemen. The trial of the expenses of former MP Margaret

:58:04. > :58:09.Moran has begun in her absence after she was ruled unfit to stand

:58:09. > :58:13.trial. Meanwhile, a forester given rise to concern is the East is

:58:13. > :58:19.confirmed as having the highest incidence of ash dieback cases in

:58:19. > :58:24.the country. We know that some of these genes were found back in

:58:24. > :58:32.March, we have destroyed 100,000 that and we know that. Young trees

:58:32. > :58:39.are particularly susceptible. I sometimes think that the Deputy

:58:39. > :58:45.Prime Minister would like to send me to a jumble and Australia.

:58:45. > :58:49.-- a tumble in Australia. Let's pick up on ash dieback.

:58:49. > :58:54.Farmers and landowners are telling us that Government action was too

:58:54. > :58:58.little too late. Suffolk and Norfolk are particularly badly hit,

:58:58. > :59:03.I was speaking to one Paterson about this but the disease is now a

:59:03. > :59:07.mature trees and eradicating it will not happen. We must now make -

:59:07. > :59:13.- see what we can do to make sure we do not decimate trees in this

:59:13. > :59:18.region. Friday's Cobra meeting came out saying that we must improve by

:59:18. > :59:27.low-security. Are our hands not tied when it comes to that, because

:59:27. > :59:31.you part of your? We now know that this disease came through imports

:59:31. > :59:38.from the Netherlands in February. I know that the British exports told

:59:38. > :59:41.a committee in March that this was an outbreak in Britain. Yet

:59:41. > :59:46.ministers say they were not told by those same officials until April.

:59:46. > :59:49.This cannot be right. It has taken him a further six months to bring

:59:49. > :59:53.in the measures they have. They should have been taking those

:59:53. > :59:59.measures six months earlier in Norfolk and Suffolk in particularly.

:59:59. > :00:03.Very briefly to reply. I didn't think that Owen is a man of

:00:03. > :00:07.business, he will do what he can to save this industry. So six months