:01:26. > :01:27.Our new Police and Crime Our new Police and Crime
:01:27. > :01:29.Commissioner is on a collision Commissioner is on a collision
:01:29. > :01:31.Commissioner is on a collision course with the Government. And the
:01:31. > :01:32.course with the Government. And the course with the Government. And the
:01:32. > :01:42.European pesticide plan set to hit European pesticide plan set to hit
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:01:42. > :38:20.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2198 seconds
:38:20. > :38:22.European pesticide plan set to hit Welcome back to your program. Coming
:38:22. > :38:24.Welcome back to your program. Coming up: The Police and Crime
:38:24. > :38:25.up: The Police and Crime up: The Police and Crime
:38:25. > :38:26.Commissioner has plans to tag Commissioner has plans to tag
:38:27. > :38:27.prospect by dollars. prospect by dollars.
:38:27. > :38:30.prospect by dollars. It has caused problems of the
:38:30. > :38:31.Government. Government.
:38:31. > :38:32.Government. Government.
:38:32. > :38:34.It has stalled me doing what I have It has stalled me doing what I have
:38:34. > :38:37.been elected to do. been elected to do.
:38:37. > :38:37.been elected to do. been elected to do.
:38:38. > :38:42.And fears for our farmers over plans And fears for our farmers over plans
:38:42. > :38:43.to ban a pesticide. to ban a pesticide.
:38:43. > :38:45.to ban a pesticide. The lost pesticides, our crop yields
:38:45. > :38:48.The lost pesticides, our crop yields would be lower.
:38:48. > :38:50.would be lower. would be lower.
:38:50. > :38:51.Let's meet our guests. David Ruffley Let's meet our guests. David Ruffley
:38:51. > :38:54.Let's meet our guests. David Ruffley is the Conservative MP for Bury
:38:54. > :38:55.is the Conservative MP for Bury is the Conservative MP for Bury
:38:55. > :38:56.Saint Edmunds. Olly Martins is the Saint Edmunds. Olly Martins is the
:38:56. > :38:58.Saint Edmunds. Olly Martins is the recently elected Police and Crime
:38:58. > :38:59.recently elected Police and Crime Commissioner for Bedfordshire and
:38:59. > :39:01.Commissioner for Bedfordshire and Commissioner for Bedfordshire and
:39:01. > :39:02.Commissioner for Bedfordshire and the only Labour PCC in the East.
:39:02. > :39:06.the only Labour PCC in the East. the only Labour PCC in the East.
:39:07. > :39:07.Let's start with this week's protest over travellers.
:39:07. > :39:09.over travellers. over travellers.
:39:09. > :39:10.People are protesting as a People are protesting as a
:39:10. > :39:12.counselling Bedfordshire Reckitt -- counselling Bedfordshire Reckitt --
:39:12. > :39:13.counselling Bedfordshire Reckitt -- recommended new gypsy sites. The
:39:13. > :39:14.recommended new gypsy sites. The recommended new gypsy sites. The
:39:14. > :39:15.Government has changed the way sites Government has changed the way sites
:39:15. > :39:16.Government has changed the way sites Government has changed the way sites
:39:16. > :39:17.are allocated. And it is up to are allocated. And it is up to
:39:17. > :39:18.are allocated. And it is up to councils to plan locally. That
:39:18. > :39:20.councils to plan locally. That councils to plan locally. That
:39:20. > :39:21.councils to plan locally. That doesn't seem to be going well. It
:39:21. > :39:22.doesn't seem to be going well. It doesn't seem to be going well. It
:39:22. > :39:25.doesn't seem to be going well. It seems that it is always a clash with
:39:25. > :39:28.seems that it is always a clash with seems that it is always a clash with
:39:28. > :39:29.a settled population. There is. It a settled population. There is. It
:39:29. > :39:31.a settled population. There is. It really upsets people who are
:39:31. > :39:31.really upsets people who are really upsets people who are
:39:31. > :39:35.indigenous to an area, where indigenous to an area, where
:39:35. > :39:38.indigenous to an area, where travellers come down overnight. That
:39:38. > :39:40.travellers come down overnight. That travellers come down overnight. That
:39:40. > :39:41.kind of lawlessness of travellers kind of lawlessness of travellers
:39:41. > :39:44.kind of lawlessness of travellers kind of lawlessness of travellers
:39:45. > :39:45.pitching up has got to be tackled. pitching up has got to be tackled.
:39:45. > :39:47.pitching up has got to be tackled. The Government has said there will
:39:47. > :39:50.The Government has said there will The Government has said there will
:39:50. > :39:51.The Government has said there will be a designated site Andy will be
:39:51. > :39:52.be a designated site Andy will be channelled via Indy Bedfordshire
:39:52. > :39:55.channelled via Indy Bedfordshire channelled via Indy Bedfordshire
:39:55. > :39:56.channelled via Indy Bedfordshire case. I would imagine there would be
:39:56. > :39:57.case. I would imagine there would be case. I would imagine there would be
:39:57. > :40:01.case. I would imagine there would be protests in my seat. You can't get
:40:01. > :40:01.protests in my seat. You can't get protests in my seat. You can't get
:40:01. > :40:04.away from it. Bedfordshire has a away from it. Bedfordshire has a
:40:04. > :40:05.good reputation for accommodating good reputation for accommodating
:40:05. > :40:06.good reputation for accommodating travellers. In your Police and Crime
:40:06. > :40:07.travellers. In your Police and Crime Commissioner plan, you mentioned
:40:07. > :40:12.Commissioner plan, you mentioned Commissioner plan, you mentioned
:40:12. > :40:13.Drupal areas. Is there a problem Drupal areas. Is there a problem
:40:13. > :40:14.Drupal areas. Is there a problem Drupal areas. Is there a problem
:40:14. > :40:15.there? I think it is important we there? I think it is important we
:40:15. > :40:16.there? I think it is important we don't stigmatise a whole community
:40:16. > :40:17.don't stigmatise a whole community don't stigmatise a whole community
:40:17. > :40:21.on the basis of the criminal on the basis of the criminal
:40:21. > :40:22.on the basis of the criminal on the basis of the criminal
:40:22. > :40:23.activity of the minority. I think it activity of the minority. I think it
:40:23. > :40:24.activity of the minority. I think it is incumbent on the Traveller
:40:24. > :40:28.is incumbent on the Traveller is incumbent on the Traveller
:40:28. > :40:29.community to engage with police to community to engage with police to
:40:29. > :40:29.community to engage with police to community to engage with police to
:40:29. > :40:32.engage the criminal -- to ensure the engage the criminal -- to ensure the
:40:32. > :40:33.engage the criminal -- to ensure the criminal minority can be expunged.
:40:33. > :40:34.criminal minority can be expunged. criminal minority can be expunged.
:40:34. > :40:37.criminal minority can be expunged. It is that kind of issue which gives
:40:37. > :40:38.It is that kind of issue which gives rise to residents' concerns.
:40:38. > :40:39.rise to residents' concerns. rise to residents' concerns.
:40:39. > :40:40.rise to residents' concerns. Let's move on to the plans for our
:40:40. > :40:42.Let's move on to the plans for our Let's move on to the plans for our
:40:42. > :40:43.police forces over the next five police forces over the next five
:40:43. > :40:44.police forces over the next five years. The draft proposal for our
:40:44. > :40:45.years. The draft proposal for our years. The draft proposal for our
:40:45. > :40:47.newly elected Police and Crime newly elected Police and Crime
:40:47. > :40:50.newly elected Police and Crime Commissioner's has been revealed. In
:40:50. > :40:51.Commissioner's has been revealed. In Commissioner's has been revealed. In
:40:51. > :40:51.Norfolk, they want to reduce the Norfolk, they want to reduce the
:40:51. > :40:55.Norfolk, they want to reduce the amount of crime committed by
:40:55. > :40:56.amount of crime committed by amount of crime committed by
:40:56. > :41:01.offenders. In Suffolk, they want to offenders. In Suffolk, they want to
:41:01. > :41:03.investigate a police apprenticeship. investigate a police apprenticeship.
:41:03. > :41:04.investigate a police apprenticeship. In Cambridgeshire, they have pledged
:41:04. > :41:05.In Cambridgeshire, they have pledged In Cambridgeshire, they have pledged
:41:05. > :41:08.that all burglaries should be that all burglaries should be
:41:08. > :41:09.investigated within an appropriate investigated within an appropriate
:41:09. > :41:12.investigated within an appropriate investigated within an appropriate
:41:12. > :41:16.time. NSX, the focus is on domestic time. NSX, the focus is on domestic
:41:16. > :41:20.time. NSX, the focus is on domestic abuse, after Harry -- high-profile
:41:20. > :41:21.abuse, after Harry -- high-profile situations were revealed. In
:41:21. > :41:22.situations were revealed. In situations were revealed. In
:41:22. > :41:29.Northamptonshire, they want to see a Northamptonshire, they want to see a
:41:29. > :41:31.Northamptonshire, they want to see a reduction of 40% in violent crime.
:41:31. > :41:32.reduction of 40% in violent crime. reduction of 40% in violent crime.
:41:32. > :41:35.In Hertfordshire, they want to see In Hertfordshire, they want to see
:41:35. > :41:36.In Hertfordshire, they want to see In Hertfordshire, they want to see
:41:36. > :41:40.-- see a vendor's meat costs that -- see a vendor's meat costs that
:41:40. > :41:42.-- see a vendor's meat costs that -- see a vendor's meat costs that
:41:42. > :41:43.the crate when they are detained. In the crate when they are detained. In
:41:43. > :41:43.the crate when they are detained. In Bedfordshire, the once GPS tagging
:41:44. > :41:51.Bedfordshire, the once GPS tagging Bedfordshire, the once GPS tagging
:41:51. > :41:52.to be extended to other categories. to be extended to other categories.
:41:52. > :41:53.to be extended to other categories. to be extended to other categories.
:41:53. > :41:58.This is put him on a collision This is put him on a collision
:41:58. > :41:59.course with the Government. course with the Government.
:41:59. > :42:00.course with the Government. course with the Government.
:42:00. > :42:02.Out for a wok, but he is not Out for a wok, but he is not
:42:02. > :42:04.Out for a wok, but he is not Out for a wok, but he is not
:42:04. > :42:06.strictly free. It tag on his ankle, strictly free. It tag on his ankle,
:42:06. > :42:07.strictly free. It tag on his ankle, strictly free. It tag on his ankle,
:42:07. > :42:08.while he waits trial. The same for while he waits trial. The same for
:42:08. > :42:11.while he waits trial. The same for this woman as she awaits home
:42:11. > :42:12.this woman as she awaits home this woman as she awaits home
:42:12. > :42:12.detention curfew. A small number of detention curfew. A small number of
:42:12. > :42:15.detention curfew. A small number of burglars have volunteered to Wear
:42:15. > :42:16.burglars have volunteered to Wear burglars have volunteered to Wear
:42:16. > :42:18.tags. They have been responsible for tags. They have been responsible for
:42:18. > :42:19.tags. They have been responsible for tags. They have been responsible for
:42:19. > :42:20.a number of crimes. But no breath as a number of crimes. But no breath as
:42:20. > :42:23.crying Commissioner Andy Chief crying Commissioner Andy Chief
:42:23. > :42:24.crying Commissioner Andy Chief crying Commissioner Andy Chief
:42:24. > :42:26.Constable wants to up the arm the -- Constable wants to up the arm the --
:42:26. > :42:27.Constable wants to up the arm the -- up the ante and want persistent
:42:27. > :42:30.up the ante and want persistent up the ante and want persistent
:42:30. > :42:31.offenders to be tagged in real-time. offenders to be tagged in real-time.
:42:31. > :42:32.offenders to be tagged in real-time. offenders to be tagged in real-time.
:42:32. > :42:33.These are the old style tags that These are the old style tags that
:42:33. > :42:34.These are the old style tags that shall we're an offender has been
:42:34. > :42:36.shall we're an offender has been shall we're an offender has been
:42:36. > :42:36.once the information is downloaded. once the information is downloaded.
:42:36. > :42:39.once the information is downloaded. Bedfordshire police want to order
:42:39. > :42:43.Bedfordshire police want to order Bedfordshire police want to order
:42:43. > :42:44.new generation tags for compulsory new generation tags for compulsory
:42:44. > :42:45.new generation tags for compulsory tagging. PCC Olly Martins says the
:42:45. > :42:46.tagging. PCC Olly Martins says the tagging. PCC Olly Martins says the
:42:46. > :42:47.Government is blocking his plan Government is blocking his plan
:42:47. > :42:50.Government is blocking his plan because the wording in the contract
:42:50. > :42:51.because the wording in the contract because the wording in the contract
:42:52. > :42:52.doesn't allow it. They are insisting doesn't allow it. They are insisting
:42:52. > :42:55.doesn't allow it. They are insisting that the current contract, drawn up
:42:55. > :42:58.that the current contract, drawn up that the current contract, drawn up
:42:58. > :42:59.nine years ago, is not consistent nine years ago, is not consistent
:42:59. > :43:01.nine years ago, is not consistent with allowing the technology to be
:43:01. > :43:02.with allowing the technology to be with allowing the technology to be
:43:02. > :43:07.used only compulsory basis. I think used only compulsory basis. I think
:43:07. > :43:08.used only compulsory basis. I think used only compulsory basis. I think
:43:08. > :43:08.that is just a nonsense. This minor that is just a nonsense. This minor
:43:08. > :43:09.that is just a nonsense. This minor that is just a nonsense. This minor
:43:09. > :43:11.quibble should be hired out so that quibble should be hired out so that
:43:11. > :43:12.quibble should be hired out so that quibble should be hired out so that
:43:12. > :43:13.we can roll this out and start we can roll this out and start
:43:13. > :43:14.we can roll this out and start we can roll this out and start
:43:14. > :43:17.cutting the harm that the system has cutting the harm that the system has
:43:17. > :43:18.cutting the harm that the system has caused in Bedfordshire. It is
:43:18. > :43:19.caused in Bedfordshire. It is caused in Bedfordshire. It is
:43:19. > :43:20.stopping the Police and Crime stopping the Police and Crime
:43:20. > :43:23.stopping the Police and Crime Commissioner doing what I have been
:43:23. > :43:23.Commissioner doing what I have been Commissioner doing what I have been
:43:24. > :43:28.elected to do. The evidence exists elected to do. The evidence exists
:43:28. > :43:29.elected to do. The evidence exists to show tagging works. This small
:43:29. > :43:29.to show tagging works. This small to show tagging works. This small
:43:29. > :43:31.amount of people can't in amount of people can't in
:43:31. > :43:33.amount of people can't in Bedfordshire are linked to 459
:43:33. > :43:34.Bedfordshire are linked to 459 Bedfordshire are linked to 459
:43:34. > :43:34.burglaries. Since they have been burglaries. Since they have been
:43:35. > :43:37.burglaries. Since they have been tagged, they have committed just
:43:37. > :43:40.tagged, they have committed just tagged, they have committed just
:43:40. > :43:41.free burglaries. We have done some free burglaries. We have done some
:43:41. > :43:42.free burglaries. We have done some profiling on these tags, and we
:43:42. > :43:44.profiling on these tags, and we profiling on these tags, and we
:43:44. > :43:44.think there are 200 offenders who think there are 200 offenders who
:43:45. > :43:46.think there are 200 offenders who think there are 200 offenders who
:43:46. > :43:47.would benefit from the use of this would benefit from the use of this
:43:47. > :43:49.would benefit from the use of this would benefit from the use of this
:43:49. > :43:50.type of tagging. This would help the type of tagging. This would help the
:43:50. > :43:52.type of tagging. This would help the public, because they would not
:43:52. > :43:53.public, because they would not public, because they would not
:43:53. > :43:54.victimised people. We have checked victimised people. We have checked
:43:54. > :43:56.victimised people. We have checked the legalities and human rights in
:43:56. > :43:56.the legalities and human rights in the legalities and human rights in
:43:56. > :43:59.the legalities and human rights in relation to that. It is the right
:43:59. > :43:59.relation to that. It is the right relation to that. It is the right
:43:59. > :44:00.relation to that. It is the right thing to do for the offender. More
:44:00. > :44:01.thing to do for the offender. More thing to do for the offender. More
:44:01. > :44:03.importantly it is the right thing importantly it is the right thing
:44:03. > :44:06.importantly it is the right thing importantly it is the right thing
:44:06. > :44:07.for the public. It is a win win for the public. It is a win win
:44:07. > :44:08.situation. Bedfordshire police will situation. Bedfordshire police will
:44:08. > :44:09.situation. Bedfordshire police will situation. Bedfordshire police will
:44:09. > :44:13.be driving force behind the ban. The be driving force behind the ban. The
:44:13. > :44:13.be driving force behind the ban. The be driving force behind the ban. The
:44:13. > :44:14.ticket to the PCC. It has the ticket to the PCC. It has the
:44:14. > :44:16.ticket to the PCC. It has the backing of local judges and
:44:16. > :44:19.backing of local judges and backing of local judges and
:44:19. > :44:20.provision, but what about the provision, but what about the
:44:20. > :44:23.provision, but what about the public? In Chestnut Avenue in
:44:23. > :44:23.public? In Chestnut Avenue in Bedford, residents via burglary.
:44:23. > :44:24.Bedford, residents via burglary. Bedford, residents via burglary.
:44:24. > :44:25.They had a neighbourhood watch They had a neighbourhood watch
:44:25. > :44:27.They had a neighbourhood watch They had a neighbourhood watch
:44:27. > :44:28.scheme and look out for each other. scheme and look out for each other.
:44:28. > :44:29.scheme and look out for each other. scheme and look out for each other.
:44:30. > :44:30.Those we spoke to Wellcome and trace Those we spoke to Wellcome and trace
:44:30. > :44:32.Those we spoke to Wellcome and trace Those we spoke to Wellcome and trace
:44:32. > :44:34.in tagging. It is a good idea. Bad in tagging. It is a good idea. Bad
:44:34. > :44:38.in tagging. It is a good idea. Bad people need to be monitored and
:44:38. > :44:41.people need to be monitored and people need to be monitored and
:44:41. > :44:42.watched. It is not just about watched. It is not just about
:44:42. > :44:44.watched. It is not just about punishing people. We want to see
:44:45. > :44:45.punishing people. We want to see punishing people. We want to see
:44:45. > :44:48.people be rehabilitated. We want to people be rehabilitated. We want to
:44:48. > :44:49.people be rehabilitated. We want to see offenders stop offending. You
:44:49. > :44:50.see offenders stop offending. You see offenders stop offending. You
:44:50. > :44:51.see offenders stop offending. You give them some level of liberty, but
:44:51. > :44:55.give them some level of liberty, but give them some level of liberty, but
:44:55. > :44:56.also some level of punishment. also some level of punishment.
:44:56. > :44:58.also some level of punishment. Bernard Rix is watching this case
:44:58. > :44:59.Bernard Rix is watching this case Bernard Rix is watching this case
:44:59. > :45:00.Bernard Rix is watching this case with interest. We will see quite a
:45:00. > :45:01.with interest. We will see quite a with interest. We will see quite a
:45:01. > :45:04.with interest. We will see quite a number of PCCs getting to flex their
:45:04. > :45:05.number of PCCs getting to flex their number of PCCs getting to flex their
:45:05. > :45:07.muscles. Olly Martins clearly wants muscles. Olly Martins clearly wants
:45:07. > :45:08.muscles. Olly Martins clearly wants to take forward his tagging
:45:08. > :45:12.to take forward his tagging initiative. He is finding
:45:12. > :45:13.initiative. He is finding initiative. He is finding
:45:13. > :45:14.difficulties in achieving that, and difficulties in achieving that, and
:45:14. > :45:14.difficulties in achieving that, and difficulties in achieving that, and
:45:14. > :45:15.he is starting to try to encourage he is starting to try to encourage
:45:15. > :45:17.he is starting to try to encourage he is starting to try to encourage
:45:17. > :45:18.the Home Office to get on with the Home Office to get on with
:45:18. > :45:19.the Home Office to get on with things. There are similarities here
:45:19. > :45:19.things. There are similarities here things. There are similarities here
:45:20. > :45:22.things. There are similarities here with what David Lloyd is looking to
:45:22. > :45:23.with what David Lloyd is looking to with what David Lloyd is looking to
:45:23. > :45:24.do in Hertfordshire. David Lloyd do in Hertfordshire. David Lloyd
:45:24. > :45:25.do in Hertfordshire. David Lloyd made headlines when he said he
:45:25. > :45:26.made headlines when he said he made headlines when he said he
:45:26. > :45:28.wanted to charge people who spent wanted to charge people who spent
:45:28. > :45:28.wanted to charge people who spent wanted to charge people who spent
:45:29. > :45:31.the night in police cells. It is not the night in police cells. It is not
:45:31. > :45:32.the night in police cells. It is not the night in police cells. It is not
:45:32. > :45:32.just about that, it is about doing just about that, it is about doing
:45:32. > :45:36.just about that, it is about doing things like asking people pay for
:45:36. > :45:37.things like asking people pay for their own rehabilitation, whether
:45:37. > :45:37.their own rehabilitation, whether their own rehabilitation, whether
:45:38. > :45:40.that is only speed awareness course that is only speed awareness course
:45:40. > :45:41.that is only speed awareness course or other areas. Ministry of Justice
:45:41. > :45:44.or other areas. Ministry of Justice or other areas. Ministry of Justice
:45:44. > :45:45.or other areas. Ministry of Justice staff plan to visit the huge queue
:45:45. > :45:46.staff plan to visit the huge queue staff plan to visit the huge queue
:45:46. > :45:51.staff plan to visit the huge queue here -- the Bedfordshire HQ to see
:45:51. > :45:52.here -- the Bedfordshire HQ to see how this is done.
:45:52. > :45:54.how this is done. how this is done.
:45:54. > :45:55.Joining me in Sally Benton from Joining me in Sally Benton from
:45:55. > :45:58.Joining me in Sally Benton from Joining me in Sally Benton from
:45:58. > :45:58.Nacro. There is a lot of support for Nacro. There is a lot of support for
:45:58. > :45:59.Nacro. There is a lot of support for these plans. Doesn't it make sense
:45:59. > :46:04.these plans. Doesn't it make sense these plans. Doesn't it make sense
:46:04. > :46:05.to make this sort of tagging to make this sort of tagging
:46:05. > :46:06.to make this sort of tagging to make this sort of tagging
:46:06. > :46:07.compulsory? For Nacro, as we add a compulsory? For Nacro, as we add a
:46:07. > :46:11.compulsory? For Nacro, as we add a crime reduction charity, we think it
:46:11. > :46:12.crime reduction charity, we think it crime reduction charity, we think it
:46:12. > :46:13.crime reduction charity, we think it is censored all -- sensible to look
:46:13. > :46:14.is censored all -- sensible to look is censored all -- sensible to look
:46:14. > :46:15.is censored all -- sensible to look at the ways of new technologies can
:46:15. > :46:16.at the ways of new technologies can at the ways of new technologies can
:46:16. > :46:17.at the ways of new technologies can supporters in the work we do and
:46:18. > :46:19.supporters in the work we do and supporters in the work we do and
:46:19. > :46:24.reduce crime and reoffending. What reduce crime and reoffending. What
:46:24. > :46:25.reduce crime and reoffending. What reduce crime and reoffending. What
:46:25. > :46:25.we would say in this instance as all we would say in this instance as all
:46:25. > :46:27.we would say in this instance as all Police and Crime Commissioner's make
:46:27. > :46:28.Police and Crime Commissioner's make Police and Crime Commissioner's make
:46:28. > :46:30.their plans for future spending is their plans for future spending is
:46:30. > :46:31.their plans for future spending is to make sure that those investments
:46:31. > :46:35.to make sure that those investments to make sure that those investments
:46:35. > :46:35.are balanced against what is needed are balanced against what is needed
:46:35. > :46:41.are balanced against what is needed locally. That is particularly when
:46:41. > :46:42.locally. That is particularly when dealing with persistent offenders.
:46:42. > :46:43.dealing with persistent offenders. dealing with persistent offenders.
:46:43. > :46:47.Those investments need to look Those investments need to look
:46:47. > :46:48.Those investments need to look across a wide variety of services.
:46:48. > :46:49.across a wide variety of services. across a wide variety of services.
:46:49. > :46:50.You saying that simply tagging You saying that simply tagging
:46:50. > :46:51.persistent offenders only compulsory persistent offenders only compulsory
:46:51. > :46:56.persistent offenders only compulsory basis is not sufficient to prevent
:46:56. > :47:00.basis is not sufficient to prevent basis is not sufficient to prevent
:47:00. > :47:01.reoffending? Yes. We would say that reoffending? Yes. We would say that
:47:01. > :47:02.reoffending? Yes. We would say that whilst technology is important, it
:47:02. > :47:02.whilst technology is important, it whilst technology is important, it
:47:02. > :47:04.is absolutely important that certain is absolutely important that certain
:47:04. > :47:04.is absolutely important that certain types of offenders are monitored and
:47:04. > :47:07.types of offenders are monitored and types of offenders are monitored and
:47:07. > :47:09.tracked and punished for their tracked and punished for their
:47:09. > :47:10.tracked and punished for their crimes. That alone will not deal
:47:10. > :47:11.crimes. That alone will not deal crimes. That alone will not deal
:47:11. > :47:14.with the problem of the offending with the problem of the offending
:47:14. > :47:14.with the problem of the offending long-term. In many cases, our fear
:47:14. > :47:15.long-term. In many cases, our fear long-term. In many cases, our fear
:47:15. > :47:18.long-term. In many cases, our fear is that it may delay the next
:47:18. > :47:21.is that it may delay the next is that it may delay the next
:47:21. > :47:23.offence. It is really important to offence. It is really important to
:47:23. > :47:23.offence. It is really important to have a conversation with them and
:47:24. > :47:24.have a conversation with them and have a conversation with them and
:47:24. > :47:25.other local services about what it other local services about what it
:47:25. > :47:26.other local services about what it other local services about what it
:47:26. > :47:27.is we need to do to challenge is we need to do to challenge
:47:27. > :47:30.is we need to do to challenge behaviour, to get people of
:47:30. > :47:33.behaviour, to get people of behaviour, to get people of
:47:33. > :47:34.substance misuse, to make sure they substance misuse, to make sure they
:47:34. > :47:38.substance misuse, to make sure they have a home, problems with mental
:47:38. > :47:38.have a home, problems with mental have a home, problems with mental
:47:38. > :47:40.health and employment. All of those, health and employment. All of those,
:47:40. > :47:40.whilst balanced against punishment whilst balanced against punishment
:47:40. > :47:43.whilst balanced against punishment whilst balanced against punishment
:47:43. > :47:47.and reform, and what we need to do. and reform, and what we need to do.
:47:47. > :47:47.and reform, and what we need to do. and reform, and what we need to do.
:47:47. > :47:51.What about the cost? We would have What about the cost? We would have
:47:51. > :47:54.What about the cost? We would have to look at that in detail.
:47:54. > :47:55.to look at that in detail. Mobilising local procurement
:47:55. > :47:59.Mobilising local procurement Mobilising local procurement
:47:59. > :48:00.Mobilising local procurement together looks like it might be more
:48:00. > :48:01.together looks like it might be more cost-effective than an uncoordinated
:48:01. > :48:03.cost-effective than an uncoordinated cost-effective than an uncoordinated
:48:03. > :48:04.approach to this type of investment. approach to this type of investment.
:48:04. > :48:06.approach to this type of investment. That is something that is really
:48:06. > :48:08.That is something that is really That is something that is really
:48:08. > :48:09.interesting to us. If you only interesting to us. If you only
:48:09. > :48:09.interesting to us. If you only invest in one thing, you're not
:48:09. > :48:15.invest in one thing, you're not invest in one thing, you're not
:48:15. > :48:16.going to address the cause of someone's offending.
:48:16. > :48:17.someone's offending. someone's offending.
:48:17. > :48:18.someone's offending. Olly Martins, you heard what she had
:48:18. > :48:19.Olly Martins, you heard what she had Olly Martins, you heard what she had
:48:19. > :48:21.Olly Martins, you heard what she had to say there. If you only invest in
:48:21. > :48:25.to say there. If you only invest in to say there. If you only invest in
:48:25. > :48:26.to say there. If you only invest in one thing, you want get much at all.
:48:26. > :48:28.one thing, you want get much at all. one thing, you want get much at all.
:48:28. > :48:29.I see tagging as supporting I see tagging as supporting
:48:29. > :48:30.I see tagging as supporting rehabilitation. If you look at the
:48:31. > :48:34.rehabilitation. If you look at the rehabilitation. If you look at the
:48:34. > :48:37.way in which the integrated program way in which the integrated program
:48:37. > :48:38.way in which the integrated program we have in Bedfordshire works, it
:48:38. > :48:39.we have in Bedfordshire works, it we have in Bedfordshire works, it
:48:39. > :48:40.we have in Bedfordshire works, it gets the offenders to agree to win a
:48:40. > :48:41.gets the offenders to agree to win a gets the offenders to agree to win a
:48:41. > :48:41.gets the offenders to agree to win a tag, but also works with them to
:48:41. > :48:42.tag, but also works with them to tag, but also works with them to
:48:42. > :48:47.address the factors that have address the factors that have
:48:47. > :48:48.contributed to the offending contributed to the offending
:48:48. > :48:49.contributed to the offending behaviour. So are you suggesting
:48:49. > :48:50.behaviour. So are you suggesting behaviour. So are you suggesting
:48:50. > :48:53.that this GPS tagging should be that this GPS tagging should be
:48:53. > :48:56.compulsory for assistant offenders? compulsory for assistant offenders?
:48:56. > :48:57.compulsory for assistant offenders? compulsory for assistant offenders?
:48:57. > :48:58.What I want to pilot in Bedfordshire What I want to pilot in Bedfordshire
:48:58. > :48:59.What I want to pilot in Bedfordshire What I want to pilot in Bedfordshire
:48:59. > :49:03.is the use of GPS tagging on people is the use of GPS tagging on people
:49:03. > :49:04.is the use of GPS tagging on people is the use of GPS tagging on people
:49:04. > :49:05.who have been bailed and those who who have been bailed and those who
:49:05. > :49:07.who have been bailed and those who are being released from prison on
:49:07. > :49:11.are being released from prison on are being released from prison on
:49:11. > :49:13.licence. It is quite a narrowly licence. It is quite a narrowly
:49:13. > :49:13.licence. It is quite a narrowly licence. It is quite a narrowly
:49:13. > :49:14.defined pilot. I want to see the defined pilot. I want to see the
:49:14. > :49:18.defined pilot. I want to see the rehabilitation work that I have
:49:18. > :49:19.rehabilitation work that I have mentioned sitting alongside that.
:49:19. > :49:20.mentioned sitting alongside that. mentioned sitting alongside that.
:49:20. > :49:22.Shouldn't the Government listen to Shouldn't the Government listen to
:49:22. > :49:26.Shouldn't the Government listen to the Police and Crime Commissioner's?
:49:27. > :49:27.the Police and Crime Commissioner's? the Police and Crime Commissioner's?
:49:27. > :49:28.the Police and Crime Commissioner's? I agree. I think this is the
:49:28. > :49:29.I agree. I think this is the greatest advertisement for Police
:49:29. > :49:29.greatest advertisement for Police greatest advertisement for Police
:49:29. > :49:34.and Crime Commissioner's which the and Crime Commissioner's which the
:49:34. > :49:35.opposition slagged off. Different opposition slagged off. Different
:49:35. > :49:36.opposition slagged off. Different things are being trialled on this
:49:36. > :49:38.things are being trialled on this things are being trialled on this
:49:38. > :49:39.things are being trialled on this bail bandit idea to stop those on
:49:39. > :49:40.bail bandit idea to stop those on bail bandit idea to stop those on
:49:40. > :49:42.bail committing further crime. I bail committing further crime. I
:49:42. > :49:43.bail committing further crime. I think this is an excellent idea.
:49:43. > :49:45.think this is an excellent idea. think this is an excellent idea.
:49:45. > :49:46.think this is an excellent idea. There is a deeper point. Two out of
:49:47. > :49:48.There is a deeper point. Two out of There is a deeper point. Two out of
:49:48. > :49:51.three people reading prison reoffend three people reading prison reoffend
:49:51. > :49:52.three people reading prison reoffend within two years. It is entirely
:49:52. > :49:54.within two years. It is entirely within two years. It is entirely
:49:54. > :49:55.right that sorting out the old right that sorting out the old
:49:55. > :49:57.right that sorting out the old bandits will reduce the number of
:49:57. > :50:00.bandits will reduce the number of bandits will reduce the number of
:50:00. > :50:01.burglaries. The deeper problem is in burglaries. The deeper problem is in
:50:01. > :50:02.burglaries. The deeper problem is in burglaries. The deeper problem is in
:50:02. > :50:02.prisons. That is not the province of prisons. That is not the province of
:50:02. > :50:03.prisons. That is not the province of Police and Crime Commissioner's, and
:50:03. > :50:07.Police and Crime Commissioner's, and Police and Crime Commissioner's, and
:50:07. > :50:07.Police and Crime Commissioner's, and it has been awful for 20 years.
:50:07. > :50:08.it has been awful for 20 years. it has been awful for 20 years.
:50:08. > :50:09.you think Reading get the Home you think Reading get the Home
:50:09. > :50:10.you think Reading get the Home you think Reading get the Home
:50:10. > :50:13.Office and just a service to change Office and just a service to change
:50:13. > :50:14.Office and just a service to change Office and just a service to change
:50:14. > :50:15.their minds? I hope so. This pilot, their minds? I hope so. This pilot,
:50:15. > :50:16.their minds? I hope so. This pilot, their minds? I hope so. This pilot,
:50:16. > :50:17.we have been talking about it for we have been talking about it for
:50:17. > :50:18.we have been talking about it for we have been talking about it for
:50:18. > :50:19.six months. If I was someone who had six months. If I was someone who had
:50:19. > :50:19.six months. If I was someone who had six months. If I was someone who had
:50:20. > :50:22.been a victim of burglary in the been a victim of burglary in the
:50:22. > :50:24.been a victim of burglary in the last six months in Bedfordshire, and
:50:24. > :50:25.last six months in Bedfordshire, and last six months in Bedfordshire, and
:50:25. > :50:26.last six months in Bedfordshire, and I knew the offender could be tagged,
:50:26. > :50:27.I knew the offender could be tagged, I knew the offender could be tagged,
:50:27. > :50:28.I knew the offender could be tagged, I would be annoyed about the fact I
:50:28. > :50:30.I would be annoyed about the fact I I would be annoyed about the fact I
:50:30. > :50:31.was a victim. David Ruffley, you was a victim. David Ruffley, you
:50:32. > :50:34.was a victim. David Ruffley, you with a shadow policing minister. You
:50:34. > :50:34.with a shadow policing minister. You with a shadow policing minister. You
:50:34. > :50:37.with a shadow policing minister. You will define of the lease and Crown
:50:37. > :50:41.will define of the lease and Crown will define of the lease and Crown
:50:41. > :50:44.Commissioners. No, it was our Commissioners. No, it was our
:50:44. > :50:45.policy. You personally well-defined, policy. You personally well-defined,
:50:45. > :50:48.policy. You personally well-defined, policy. You personally well-defined,
:50:48. > :50:54.were you? I stuck to the party line. were you? I stuck to the party line.
:50:54. > :50:55.were you? I stuck to the party line. Not really answering the question at
:50:55. > :50:58.Not really answering the question at Not really answering the question at
:50:58. > :50:59.Mike I canvassed and campaigned for Mike I canvassed and campaigned for
:50:59. > :51:02.Mike I canvassed and campaigned for them. We have talked about these
:51:02. > :51:03.them. We have talked about these them. We have talked about these
:51:03. > :51:04.innovative ideas. The fact is that innovative ideas. The fact is that
:51:04. > :51:05.innovative ideas. The fact is that innovative ideas. The fact is that
:51:05. > :51:08.there was a poor time out last there was a poor time out last
:51:08. > :51:10.November, which was regrettable. November, which was regrettable.
:51:10. > :51:11.November, which was regrettable. Commissioners can make a difference.
:51:11. > :51:12.Commissioners can make a difference. Commissioners can make a difference.
:51:12. > :51:14.They can try different things in They can try different things in
:51:14. > :51:15.They can try different things in different parts of the country. If
:51:15. > :51:16.different parts of the country. If different parts of the country. If
:51:16. > :51:17.different parts of the country. If this works in your county, I will be
:51:17. > :51:18.this works in your county, I will be this works in your county, I will be
:51:18. > :51:20.suggesting that to the Suffolk suggesting that to the Suffolk
:51:20. > :51:21.suggesting that to the Suffolk Police and Crime Commissioner. I
:51:21. > :51:21.Police and Crime Commissioner. I Police and Crime Commissioner. I
:51:21. > :51:24.Police and Crime Commissioner. I think this is a good indication it
:51:24. > :51:25.think this is a good indication it think this is a good indication it
:51:25. > :51:27.may work. Olly Martins, how much may work. Olly Martins, how much
:51:28. > :51:29.may work. Olly Martins, how much may work. Olly Martins, how much
:51:29. > :51:30.clout do you have? You can suggest clout do you have? You can suggest
:51:30. > :51:31.clout do you have? You can suggest clout do you have? You can suggest
:51:31. > :51:31.things, but isn't it up to the Chief things, but isn't it up to the Chief
:51:32. > :51:32.things, but isn't it up to the Chief Constable to implement them? That
:51:32. > :51:35.Constable to implement them? That Constable to implement them? That
:51:35. > :51:36.Constable to implement them? That could leave you in the cold. That is
:51:36. > :51:39.could leave you in the cold. That is could leave you in the cold. That is
:51:39. > :51:40.could leave you in the cold. That is could leave you in the cold. That is
:51:40. > :51:40.not the sense I get. I think I am not the sense I get. I think I am
:51:40. > :51:41.not the sense I get. I think I am quite lucky having a Chief Constable
:51:41. > :51:43.quite lucky having a Chief Constable quite lucky having a Chief Constable
:51:43. > :51:43.quite lucky having a Chief Constable that I can work with quite closely.
:51:43. > :51:48.that I can work with quite closely. that I can work with quite closely.
:51:48. > :51:49.We have quite a good relationship. We have quite a good relationship.
:51:49. > :51:50.We have quite a good relationship. We have quite a good relationship.
:51:50. > :51:51.It is the early stages of the It is the early stages of the
:51:51. > :51:54.It is the early stages of the relationship. It is the early stage
:51:54. > :51:55.relationship. It is the early stage relationship. It is the early stage
:51:55. > :51:57.of implementing the all Police and of implementing the all Police and
:51:57. > :51:59.of implementing the all Police and Crime Commissioner thing. I think I
:51:59. > :52:00.Crime Commissioner thing. I think I Crime Commissioner thing. I think I
:52:00. > :52:02.am working hard to establish my am working hard to establish my
:52:02. > :52:04.am working hard to establish my legitimacy with people. I am doing
:52:04. > :52:05.legitimacy with people. I am doing legitimacy with people. I am doing
:52:05. > :52:06.legitimacy with people. I am doing that by trying to work hard and
:52:06. > :52:07.that by trying to work hard and that by trying to work hard and
:52:07. > :52:10.that by trying to work hard and being a strong voice for the people
:52:10. > :52:12.of Bedfordshire. of Bedfordshire.
:52:12. > :52:13.of Bedfordshire. of Bedfordshire.
:52:13. > :52:14.In Europe, a major row is brewing In Europe, a major row is brewing
:52:14. > :52:15.In Europe, a major row is brewing over plans by the European
:52:15. > :52:15.over plans by the European over plans by the European
:52:15. > :52:18.over plans by the European Commission to ban a popular type of
:52:18. > :52:19.Commission to ban a popular type of Commission to ban a popular type of
:52:19. > :52:20.pesticide. The Food Standards Agency pesticide. The Food Standards Agency
:52:20. > :52:22.pesticide. The Food Standards Agency pesticide. The Food Standards Agency
:52:22. > :52:26.pesticide. The Food Standards Agency in Europe wants a ban on the use of
:52:26. > :52:29.in Europe wants a ban on the use of neo-nicotinoids, used and fields.
:52:29. > :52:30.neo-nicotinoids, used and fields. neo-nicotinoids, used and fields.
:52:30. > :52:31.Use of the pesticides is partly Use of the pesticides is partly
:52:31. > :52:37.Use of the pesticides is partly Use of the pesticides is partly
:52:37. > :52:38.responsible for a decline in the to population.
:52:38. > :52:39.population. population.
:52:39. > :52:41.population. If we were allowed to use those
:52:42. > :52:42.If we were allowed to use those If we were allowed to use those
:52:42. > :52:44.products, it would have a greater products, it would have a greater
:52:44. > :52:45.products, it would have a greater impact on the environment and
:52:45. > :52:48.impact on the environment and impact on the environment and
:52:48. > :52:49.withdrew -- leads to reduce yields. withdrew -- leads to reduce yields.
:52:49. > :52:55.withdrew -- leads to reduce yields. withdrew -- leads to reduce yields.
:52:55. > :52:56.It could have a 20% reduction on It could have a 20% reduction on
:52:56. > :52:57.It could have a 20% reduction on oilseed crop. I really believe that
:52:57. > :52:59.oilseed crop. I really believe that oilseed crop. I really believe that
:52:59. > :53:03.oilseed crop. I really believe that this needs to be stopped with it
:53:03. > :53:04.this needs to be stopped with it this needs to be stopped with it
:53:04. > :53:05.this needs to be stopped with it is. Euro MPs from our region who sit
:53:05. > :53:06.is. Euro MPs from our region who sit is. Euro MPs from our region who sit
:53:06. > :53:06.on the agricultural committee have on the agricultural committee have
:53:06. > :53:10.on the agricultural committee have been fighting against plans in
:53:10. > :53:10.been fighting against plans in been fighting against plans in
:53:10. > :53:11.Brussels. They say researchers in Brussels. They say researchers in
:53:11. > :53:12.Brussels. They say researchers in Brussels. They say researchers in
:53:12. > :53:14.its early stages and a ban would be its early stages and a ban would be
:53:14. > :53:15.its early stages and a ban would be harmful for farmers. What we're
:53:16. > :53:16.harmful for farmers. What we're harmful for farmers. What we're
:53:16. > :53:19.seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to
:53:19. > :53:19.seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to seeing is a knee-jerk reaction to
:53:19. > :53:22.the green lobby. We have been using the green lobby. We have been using
:53:22. > :53:23.the green lobby. We have been using these materials for many years. One
:53:23. > :53:24.these materials for many years. One these materials for many years. One
:53:24. > :53:25.these materials for many years. One or two more years to test them
:53:25. > :53:27.or two more years to test them properly, and a research
:53:27. > :53:29.properly, and a research properly, and a research
:53:29. > :53:30.establishment, I don't think will do establishment, I don't think will do
:53:30. > :53:31.establishment, I don't think will do long-term damage. We will at least
:53:31. > :53:33.long-term damage. We will at least long-term damage. We will at least
:53:33. > :53:34.long-term damage. We will at least know if they are harmful or not.
:53:34. > :53:36.know if they are harmful or not. know if they are harmful or not.
:53:36. > :53:39.Joining us is Craig Bennett, friends Joining us is Craig Bennett, friends
:53:39. > :53:40.Joining us is Craig Bennett, friends of the Earth's director of policies.
:53:40. > :53:41.of the Earth's director of policies. of the Earth's director of policies.
:53:41. > :53:41.of the Earth's director of policies. We have had these pesticides for a
:53:41. > :53:44.We have had these pesticides for a We have had these pesticides for a
:53:45. > :53:45.We have had these pesticides for a long time, why not wait a few years
:53:45. > :53:48.long time, why not wait a few years long time, why not wait a few years
:53:48. > :53:49.long time, why not wait a few years M we are missing the point. When
:53:49. > :53:50.M we are missing the point. When M we are missing the point. When
:53:50. > :53:52.changes on the agenda, people can changes on the agenda, people can
:53:52. > :53:53.changes on the agenda, people can changes on the agenda, people can
:53:53. > :53:54.focus on the cost of change. With focus on the cost of change. With
:53:54. > :53:55.focus on the cost of change. With this, the real cost is associated
:53:55. > :53:56.this, the real cost is associated this, the real cost is associated
:53:56. > :53:58.with not banning these chemicals. with not banning these chemicals.
:53:58. > :53:59.with not banning these chemicals. with not banning these chemicals.
:53:59. > :53:59.Around the world, there are parts of Around the world, there are parts of
:53:59. > :54:02.Around the world, there are parts of Around the world, there are parts of
:54:02. > :54:03.the world where people are having to the world where people are having to
:54:03. > :54:06.the world where people are having to employ individuals to go round and
:54:06. > :54:07.employ individuals to go round and employ individuals to go round and
:54:07. > :54:08.hand pollinate crops. We did some hand pollinate crops. We did some
:54:08. > :54:09.hand pollinate crops. We did some research last year with the
:54:09. > :54:09.research last year with the research last year with the
:54:09. > :54:10.University of reading which looked University of reading which looked
:54:10. > :54:13.University of reading which looked University of reading which looked
:54:13. > :54:15.at how much it would cost the UK at how much it would cost the UK
:54:15. > :54:16.at how much it would cost the UK economy. It would cost 1.8 billion
:54:16. > :54:19.economy. It would cost 1.8 billion economy. It would cost 1.8 billion
:54:19. > :54:20.economy. It would cost 1.8 billion times for the UK economy. What about
:54:20. > :54:21.times for the UK economy. What about times for the UK economy. What about
:54:21. > :54:23.the knock-on effect of not using the knock-on effect of not using
:54:23. > :54:27.the knock-on effect of not using these pesticides? We'll yields Biot
:54:27. > :54:28.these pesticides? We'll yields Biot these pesticides? We'll yields Biot
:54:28. > :54:29.affected? There are alternatives. We affected? There are alternatives. We
:54:29. > :54:30.affected? There are alternatives. We don't think we should just leave
:54:30. > :54:30.don't think we should just leave don't think we should just leave
:54:30. > :54:32.don't think we should just leave farmers to get on with it. The
:54:32. > :54:34.farmers to get on with it. The farmers to get on with it. The
:54:34. > :54:37.Government has to work with farmers Government has to work with farmers
:54:37. > :54:38.and research establishments, trying and research establishments, trying
:54:38. > :54:39.and research establishments, trying and research establishments, trying
:54:39. > :54:41.to look at the research and see what to look at the research and see what
:54:41. > :54:42.to look at the research and see what the impacts are. Some of those
:54:42. > :54:43.the impacts are. Some of those the impacts are. Some of those
:54:43. > :54:45.alternatives already exist, but we alternatives already exist, but we
:54:45. > :54:46.alternatives already exist, but we alternatives already exist, but we
:54:46. > :54:47.need better ones. The real cost is need better ones. The real cost is
:54:47. > :54:48.need better ones. The real cost is not taking this action when the
:54:48. > :54:51.not taking this action when the not taking this action when the
:54:51. > :54:52.scientific evidence is clear all the scientific evidence is clear all the
:54:52. > :54:53.scientific evidence is clear all the time. Shouldn't we listen to
:54:53. > :54:53.time. Shouldn't we listen to time. Shouldn't we listen to
:54:53. > :54:56.organisations that aren't at all organisations that aren't at all
:54:56. > :54:56.organisations that aren't at all sure these pesticides are at all
:54:56. > :55:00.sure these pesticides are at all sure these pesticides are at all
:55:00. > :55:02.responsible for the decline in responsible for the decline in
:55:02. > :55:05.responsible for the decline in responsible for the decline in
:55:05. > :55:05.bees? It is about bees in the bees? It is about bees in the
:55:05. > :55:06.bees? It is about bees in the environment. Research has come back
:55:06. > :55:07.environment. Research has come back environment. Research has come back
:55:07. > :55:08.environment. Research has come back just this week that has shown that
:55:08. > :55:10.just this week that has shown that just this week that has shown that
:55:10. > :55:11.just this week that has shown that just this week that has shown that
:55:11. > :55:13.what we need is not just one or two what we need is not just one or two
:55:13. > :55:14.what we need is not just one or two what we need is not just one or two
:55:14. > :55:15.species of bees, we need the many species of bees, we need the many
:55:15. > :55:16.species of bees, we need the many hundreds of species to be preserved,
:55:16. > :55:19.hundreds of species to be preserved, hundreds of species to be preserved,
:55:19. > :55:20.because that makes us much more because that makes us much more
:55:20. > :55:21.because that makes us much more resilient to shocks like diseases
:55:21. > :55:24.resilient to shocks like diseases resilient to shocks like diseases
:55:24. > :55:25.that can spread through populations. that can spread through populations.
:55:25. > :55:25.that can spread through populations. that can spread through populations.
:55:25. > :55:28.It is very clear that we have seen It is very clear that we have seen
:55:28. > :55:28.It is very clear that we have seen this growing weight of evidence.
:55:28. > :55:30.this growing weight of evidence. this growing weight of evidence.
:55:30. > :55:33.this growing weight of evidence. Reports have said that it is a high
:55:33. > :55:34.Reports have said that it is a high Reports have said that it is a high
:55:34. > :55:35.Reports have said that it is a high risk to our food and be populations
:55:35. > :55:39.risk to our food and be populations risk to our food and be populations
:55:39. > :55:40.risk to our food and be populations if we don't take this step now.
:55:40. > :55:41.if we don't take this step now. if we don't take this step now.
:55:41. > :55:45.if we don't take this step now. I do concern for the farmers of the
:55:45. > :55:48.I do concern for the farmers of the I do concern for the farmers of the
:55:48. > :55:49.bees? There's an analogy with bees? There's an analogy with
:55:49. > :55:50.climate change, inasmuch as climate change, inasmuch as
:55:50. > :55:52.climate change, inasmuch as scientific research doesn't give you
:55:52. > :55:54.scientific research doesn't give you scientific research doesn't give you
:55:54. > :55:54.absolute certainty. We know there is absolute certainty. We know there is
:55:54. > :55:55.absolute certainty. We know there is absolute certainty. We know there is
:55:55. > :55:56.a problem. We know that is a problem a problem. We know that is a problem
:55:56. > :56:00.a problem. We know that is a problem with the climate and diminishing bee
:56:00. > :56:01.with the climate and diminishing bee with the climate and diminishing bee
:56:01. > :56:02.with the climate and diminishing bee numbers. It does seem to me that we
:56:02. > :56:02.numbers. It does seem to me that we numbers. It does seem to me that we
:56:02. > :56:05.numbers. It does seem to me that we need to look at the steps to be
:56:05. > :56:06.need to look at the steps to be need to look at the steps to be
:56:06. > :56:07.need to look at the steps to be taken. Do you see this as Europe
:56:07. > :56:08.taken. Do you see this as Europe taken. Do you see this as Europe
:56:08. > :56:11.taken. Do you see this as Europe sticking their nose in where it is
:56:11. > :56:14.sticking their nose in where it is sticking their nose in where it is
:56:14. > :56:15.not wanted? There is a serious not wanted? There is a serious
:56:15. > :56:15.not wanted? There is a serious not wanted? There is a serious
:56:15. > :56:16.point. All MPs have had a huge point. All MPs have had a huge
:56:16. > :56:19.point. All MPs have had a huge number of letters from concerned
:56:19. > :56:19.number of letters from concerned number of letters from concerned
:56:19. > :56:23.constituents. I have probably about constituents. I have probably about
:56:23. > :56:24.constituents. I have probably about constituents. I have probably about
:56:24. > :56:25.80 or 90. People are into ecology 80 or 90. People are into ecology
:56:25. > :56:28.80 or 90. People are into ecology and conservation for the reasons you
:56:28. > :56:29.and conservation for the reasons you and conservation for the reasons you
:56:29. > :56:31.have mentioned. My only concern is have mentioned. My only concern is
:56:31. > :56:35.have mentioned. My only concern is have mentioned. My only concern is
:56:35. > :56:36.that the science is at a fairly that the science is at a fairly
:56:36. > :56:42.that the science is at a fairly indeterminate stage. Before we take
:56:42. > :56:43.indeterminate stage. Before we take diktats from unelected Brussels
:56:43. > :56:44.diktats from unelected Brussels diktats from unelected Brussels
:56:44. > :56:45.commission's, we should look at the commission's, we should look at the
:56:45. > :56:46.commission's, we should look at the commission's, we should look at the
:56:46. > :56:47.commission's, we should look at the signs of it more. I would not be too
:56:47. > :56:49.signs of it more. I would not be too signs of it more. I would not be too
:56:49. > :56:50.signs of it more. I would not be too worried about waiting a year or so.
:56:50. > :56:50.worried about waiting a year or so. worried about waiting a year or so.
:56:50. > :56:52.Some other countries have already Some other countries have already
:56:52. > :56:54.Some other countries have already brought it in. Slovenia and Italy
:56:54. > :56:55.brought it in. Slovenia and Italy brought it in. Slovenia and Italy
:56:55. > :56:56.brought it in. Slovenia and Italy have brought him. Some places in the
:56:56. > :56:58.have brought him. Some places in the have brought him. Some places in the
:56:58. > :56:59.UK have taken pesticides off the UK have taken pesticides off the
:56:59. > :57:00.UK have taken pesticides off the UK have taken pesticides off the
:57:00. > :57:02.shelves. It is true, but it is not shelves. It is true, but it is not
:57:02. > :57:04.shelves. It is true, but it is not certain that the visit link between
:57:04. > :57:06.certain that the visit link between certain that the visit link between
:57:06. > :57:07.declining bee populations and these declining bee populations and these
:57:07. > :57:08.declining bee populations and these particular chemicals. I think there
:57:08. > :57:09.particular chemicals. I think there particular chemicals. I think there
:57:09. > :57:11.particular chemicals. I think there should be more science to bottom it
:57:11. > :57:12.should be more science to bottom it should be more science to bottom it
:57:12. > :57:14.should be more science to bottom it out. If that is the case, let's make
:57:14. > :57:15.out. If that is the case, let's make out. If that is the case, let's make
:57:15. > :57:17.the ban total. The decision should the ban total. The decision should
:57:17. > :57:17.the ban total. The decision should the ban total. The decision should
:57:17. > :57:18.have been made this month. It has have been made this month. It has
:57:18. > :57:19.have been made this month. It has been put back. People aren't
:57:19. > :57:23.been put back. People aren't been put back. People aren't
:57:23. > :57:24.listening to you, are they? listening to you, are they?
:57:24. > :57:26.listening to you, are they? public and companies away ahead of
:57:26. > :57:27.public and companies away ahead of public and companies away ahead of
:57:27. > :57:29.politicians. We have seen companies politicians. We have seen companies
:57:29. > :57:30.politicians. We have seen companies politicians. We have seen companies
:57:31. > :57:31.as you said. DIY stores are banning as you said. DIY stores are banning
:57:31. > :57:32.as you said. DIY stores are banning these chemicals. There is huge
:57:33. > :57:33.these chemicals. There is huge these chemicals. There is huge
:57:33. > :57:36.public interest in this. The public interest in this. The
:57:36. > :57:41.public interest in this. The politicians are gathering. -- the
:57:41. > :57:42.politicians are gathering. -- the politicians are gathering. -- the
:57:42. > :57:43.activating. Farmers at the coal activating. Farmers at the coal
:57:43. > :57:43.activating. Farmers at the coal activating. Farmers at the coal
:57:43. > :57:46.face, they know the effects and they face, they know the effects and they
:57:47. > :57:47.face, they know the effects and they face, they know the effects and they
:57:47. > :57:50.have great concerns. It is not a have great concerns. It is not a
:57:50. > :57:52.have great concerns. It is not a unified view among farmers on this.
:57:52. > :57:52.unified view among farmers on this. unified view among farmers on this.
:57:52. > :57:53.unified view among farmers on this. You can find plenty of farmers, and
:57:53. > :57:54.You can find plenty of farmers, and You can find plenty of farmers, and
:57:54. > :57:56.You can find plenty of farmers, and we work with at friends of the
:57:56. > :57:57.we work with at friends of the we work with at friends of the
:57:57. > :58:01.author, that want to see the author, that want to see the
:58:01. > :58:02.author, that want to see the pesticides suspended for a while.
:58:02. > :58:03.pesticides suspended for a while. pesticides suspended for a while.
:58:03. > :58:04.Suspending the use might give us Suspending the use might give us
:58:04. > :58:07.Suspending the use might give us much clearer evidence about what we
:58:07. > :58:07.much clearer evidence about what we much clearer evidence about what we
:58:07. > :58:08.need. Waiting until we get crystal need. Waiting until we get crystal
:58:08. > :58:09.need. Waiting until we get crystal need. Waiting until we get crystal
:58:09. > :58:12.clear evidence might be clued -- too clear evidence might be clued -- too
:58:13. > :58:13.clear evidence might be clued -- too clear evidence might be clued -- too
:58:13. > :58:14.late. We need to act now. We're not late. We need to act now. We're not
:58:14. > :58:23.late. We need to act now. We're not saying this is the only problem
:58:23. > :58:25.saying this is the only problem affecting bees. Thank you.
:58:25. > :58:26.affecting bees. Thank you. affecting bees. Thank you.
:58:26. > :58:29.affecting bees. Thank you. Now for the round-up of the little
:58:30. > :58:30.Now for the round-up of the little Now for the round-up of the little
:58:30. > :58:34.Now for the round-up of the little weak in 60 seconds. -- the political
:58:34. > :58:36.weak in 60 seconds. -- the political week in 60 seconds.
:58:36. > :58:37.week in 60 seconds. week in 60 seconds.
:58:37. > :58:38.week in 60 seconds. A bad start to the week for 800
:58:38. > :58:39.A bad start to the week for 800 A bad start to the week for 800
:58:39. > :58:40.workers at the Tesco supply Centre workers at the Tesco supply Centre
:58:40. > :58:42.workers at the Tesco supply Centre workers at the Tesco supply Centre
:58:42. > :58:43.in Havel after surprise news it is to close.
:58:43. > :58:46.to close. to close.
:58:46. > :58:47.to close. to close.
:58:47. > :58:47.It is able to our town. I am pleased It is able to our town. I am pleased
:58:47. > :58:49.It is able to our town. I am pleased that after our conversation with
:58:49. > :58:50.that after our conversation with that after our conversation with
:58:50. > :58:53.them, workers will be assured jobs them, workers will be assured jobs
:58:53. > :58:54.them, workers will be assured jobs in other parts of Tesco.
:58:54. > :58:55.in other parts of Tesco. in other parts of Tesco.
:58:55. > :58:56.And criticism from the Government And criticism from the Government
:58:56. > :58:57.And criticism from the Government And criticism from the Government
:58:57. > :58:58.that the people of Corby are still that the people of Corby are still
:58:58. > :58:58.that the people of Corby are still that the people of Corby are still
:58:58. > :58:59.waiting to find out why it took so waiting to find out why it took so
:58:59. > :59:06.waiting to find out why it took so waiting to find out why it took so
:59:06. > :59:08.much extra money to build the Corby It is the money we are spending.
:59:08. > :59:10.It is the money we are spending. It is the money we are spending.
:59:10. > :59:15.Welcome news for opponents of the Welcome news for opponents of the
:59:15. > :59:17.Welcome news for opponents of the AA's plans to expand Stansted.
:59:17. > :59:18.AA's plans to expand Stansted. AA's plans to expand Stansted.
:59:18. > :59:19.And Nadine Dorries welcomes our And Nadine Dorries welcomes our
:59:19. > :59:20.And Nadine Dorries welcomes our opportunity to ask our first
:59:20. > :59:20.opportunity to ask our first opportunity to ask our first
:59:20. > :59:22.question of David Cameron since her question of David Cameron since her
:59:23. > :59:26.return from the jungle. return from the jungle.
:59:26. > :59:27.return from the jungle. return from the jungle.
:59:27. > :59:28.I wonder if the Prime Minister can I wonder if the Prime Minister can
:59:28. > :59:29.I wonder if the Prime Minister can speak to the Department of Education
:59:29. > :59:30.speak to the Department of Education speak to the Department of Education
:59:30. > :59:33.speak to the Department of Education to let me know the reason. I have
:59:33. > :59:36.to let me know the reason. I have to let me know the reason. I have
:59:36. > :59:37.110 agitated people who want to 110 agitated people who want to
:59:37. > :59:41.110 agitated people who want to 110 agitated people who want to
:59:41. > :59:43.know. All she needs now is the whip back.
:59:43. > :59:44.back. back.
:59:44. > :59:44.David Ruffley, what about the owners David Ruffley, what about the owners
:59:45. > :59:45.David Ruffley, what about the owners of Stansted airport saying they want
:59:45. > :59:47.of Stansted airport saying they want of Stansted airport saying they want
:59:47. > :59:48.to compete with other airports? That to compete with other airports? That
:59:48. > :59:51.to compete with other airports? That to compete with other airports? That
:59:51. > :59:52.is good for the region, isn't it? is good for the region, isn't it?
:59:52. > :59:54.is good for the region, isn't it? is good, but there is still
:59:54. > :59:55.is good, but there is still is good, but there is still
:59:55. > :59:56.uncertainty. David Cameron has said uncertainty. David Cameron has said
:59:56. > :59:57.uncertainty. David Cameron has said uncertainty. David Cameron has said
:59:57. > :59:59.he's not sure we will get extra he's not sure we will get extra
:59:59. > :00:00.he's not sure we will get extra capacity. Boris Johnson has said
:00:00. > :00:03.capacity. Boris Johnson has said capacity. Boris Johnson has said
:00:03. > :00:04.maybe a solution is to expand maybe a solution is to expand
:00:04. > :00:07.maybe a solution is to expand Stansted. I think the future for
:00:07. > :00:08.Stansted. I think the future for Stansted. I think the future for
:00:08. > :00:09.Stansted is still uncertain. As to Stansted is still uncertain. As to
:00:09. > :00:10.Stansted is still uncertain. As to Stansted is still uncertain. As to
:00:10. > :00:11.whether or not it grows even bigger, whether or not it grows even bigger,
:00:12. > :00:14.whether or not it grows even bigger, that is the big question.
:00:14. > :00:15.that is the big question. that is the big question.
:00:15. > :00:17.Campaigners seem happier. They think Campaigners seem happier. They think
:00:18. > :00:18.Campaigners seem happier. They think Campaigners seem happier. They think
:00:18. > :00:19.the prospect of a second runway is the prospect of a second runway is
:00:19. > :00:20.the prospect of a second runway is the prospect of a second runway is
:00:20. > :00:23.now far away into the bushes. Will now far away into the bushes. Will
:00:23. > :00:24.now far away into the bushes. Will now far away into the bushes. Will
:00:24. > :00:24.that make a difference? At the end that make a difference? At the end
:00:24. > :00:27.that make a difference? At the end that make a difference? At the end
:00:28. > :00:28.of the day, there is still a issue of the day, there is still a issue
:00:28. > :00:32.of the day, there is still a issue about capacity. That needs to be
:00:32. > :00:34.about capacity. That needs to be about capacity. That needs to be
:00:34. > :00:35.about capacity. That needs to be addressed. I don't know. If I was an
:00:35. > :00:36.addressed. I don't know. If I was an addressed. I don't know. If I was an
:00:36. > :00:39.opponent of expansion at Stansted, I opponent of expansion at Stansted, I
:00:39. > :00:39.opponent of expansion at Stansted, I might not relax too much.
:00:40. > :00:40.might not relax too much. might not relax too much.
:00:40. > :00:44.capacity is only running at about capacity is only running at about
:00:44. > :00:44.capacity is only running at about capacity is only running at about
:00:44. > :00:45.half at the moment? If there is half at the moment? If there is
:00:45. > :00:47.half at the moment? If there is another runway there, the idea would
:00:47. > :00:48.another runway there, the idea would another runway there, the idea would
:00:48. > :00:51.be to Bogota. That would take be to Bogota. That would take
:00:51. > :00:52.be to Bogota. That would take capacity from Heathrow. Thank you.
:00:52. > :00:53.capacity from Heathrow. Thank you. capacity from Heathrow. Thank you.
:00:53. > :00:55.capacity from Heathrow. Thank you. capacity from Heathrow. Thank you.
:00:55. > :00:56.That is all from us. We are back at That is all from us. We are back at
:00:56. > :00:57.That is all from us. We are back at That is all from us. We are back at
:00:58. > :00:58.11 o'clock next week when we will 11 o'clock next week when we will
:00:58. > :00:59.11 o'clock next week when we will look at private companies providing