0:00:33 > 0:00:36to Sunday Politics.
0:00:36 > 0:00:43agreed by Dublin, I'll be asking sale of its Northern portfolio
0:00:43 > 0:00:47that inquiry should be
0:00:47 > 0:00:52There are calls for more leadership plans are.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55is used to appoint
0:00:57 > 0:01:02my guests are Professor Peter throughout,
0:01:17 > 0:01:26Sinn Fein says it needs to be on are still to be agreed.
0:01:26 > 0:01:28Mary Lou McDonald,
0:01:28 > 0:01:33Welcome to you, thanks very much from our Dublin studio.
0:01:33 > 0:01:40the details still that an inquiry is indeed happening,
0:01:40 > 0:01:52to be completely happy for your party
0:01:52 > 0:01:55and the Labour Party
0:01:55 > 0:01:59investigation to happen into Nama,
0:01:59 > 0:02:01Project Eagle,
0:02:01 > 0:02:05the Northern loan portfolio.
0:02:05 > 0:02:17but to concede an investigation literally no other option
0:02:17 > 0:02:24that has adequate scope, that has an investigation
0:02:24 > 0:02:28perhaps,
0:02:28 > 0:02:31approach, that the inquiry or
0:02:31 > 0:02:41that that's under consideration.
0:02:41 > 0:02:46north, they were in Britain
0:02:48 > 0:03:06Sometimes this story has been very, very thorough investigation.
0:03:06 > 0:03:11were in the north,
0:03:11 > 0:03:15an awful lot of that bare.
0:03:15 > 0:03:22Nama was created by a creature of the Dublin government.
0:03:22 > 0:03:28so the decision-making and the... by subsequent government
0:03:28 > 0:03:30at the heart of this, haven't you?
0:03:32 > 0:03:35what did or did not happen here
0:03:35 > 0:03:37you like it or not,
0:03:39 > 0:03:42cannot compel witnesses
0:03:42 > 0:03:53There are two jurisdictions here, in that inquiry.
0:03:53 > 0:03:57two jurisdictions,
0:03:57 > 0:03:59that out,
0:04:14 > 0:04:17accountable -
0:04:28 > 0:04:33cannot compel them
0:04:33 > 0:04:36fundamental problem you've got.
0:04:36 > 0:04:46monies that were lost are Yeah, just to finish my last point,
0:04:46 > 0:04:52partition creates a problem for us.
0:04:52 > 0:04:56for our part within Sinn Fein,
0:04:56 > 0:04:59joint First Minister,
0:05:02 > 0:05:04to be all-Ireland.
0:05:04 > 0:05:09at any level or in any capacity
0:05:09 > 0:05:17to support and to participate in absolutely enthusiastic
0:05:18 > 0:05:23But let's put it this way -
0:05:23 > 0:05:27who are asked to cooperate
0:05:27 > 0:05:32well, I suppose at a minimum
0:05:32 > 0:05:36draw conclusions from that.
0:05:36 > 0:05:39if we are all agreed,
0:05:39 > 0:05:45specifically in relation that we have a problem,
0:05:45 > 0:05:48and I hope we are -
0:05:48 > 0:05:51we have seen revealed through
0:05:51 > 0:06:01but anybody who believes in good not just to the taxpayer,
0:06:01 > 0:06:03that we need to get to
0:06:04 > 0:06:06telling me how you're going
0:06:06 > 0:06:12that we all think need to be answers to these questions
0:06:12 > 0:06:17I mean, there's not Dublin to answer those questions?
0:06:19 > 0:06:23all-Ireland investigation work.
0:06:23 > 0:06:26you in the first instance is that
0:06:26 > 0:06:29to us here in Dublin,
0:06:29 > 0:06:31an investigation,
0:06:32 > 0:06:37of the key players
0:06:37 > 0:06:43or have Dublin-based entities actually Dublin-based,
0:06:43 > 0:06:46you're quite right to point out,
0:06:46 > 0:06:49have a question to answer
0:06:49 > 0:06:56established by the Taoiseach, so, or away from an investigation
0:06:56 > 0:07:02when she says the primary concern Minister's got it right
0:07:02 > 0:07:04in this jurisdiction
0:07:04 > 0:07:12of what did or did not happen we will have a clearer view
0:07:12 > 0:07:23such an inquiry might actually by whomsoever wants to conduct
0:07:24 > 0:07:27get involved.
0:07:27 > 0:07:31that Arlene Foster
0:07:31 > 0:07:43Of course there are criminal that description of events.
0:07:43 > 0:07:47that would arise from them.
0:07:47 > 0:08:01and simply wait for all of that that we sit on our hands
0:08:01 > 0:08:06inquiries and investigations
0:08:06 > 0:08:09are being pursued
0:08:09 > 0:08:25It's not impossible at all for us enforcement authorities.
0:08:25 > 0:08:29with an investigation in Dublin,
0:08:31 > 0:08:33have led from the front.
0:08:33 > 0:08:39Let me cite also Mairtin O' Martin McGuinness.
0:08:39 > 0:08:43Michael Noonan and has made it
0:08:43 > 0:08:46department will cooperate fully.
0:08:46 > 0:08:50all of us... OK.
0:08:50 > 0:08:55cooperation on a voluntary basis,
0:08:55 > 0:09:03OK. I want to ask you issue around compellability.
0:09:03 > 0:09:09where there was a lot Fein's two-day think-in last week
0:09:09 > 0:09:12timescale for standing down
0:09:12 > 0:09:20and under what circumstances he knows exactly when
0:09:20 > 0:09:28Gerry has... remains the leader.
0:09:28 > 0:09:31No, no. We have a plan,
0:09:31 > 0:09:35Mark, for us as a national party
0:09:35 > 0:09:42It's about building our capacities and delivering as we are.
0:09:42 > 0:09:48No, but he was talking about having here also. Crucially...
0:09:48 > 0:09:52When is he going to go?
0:09:52 > 0:09:58ending partition and Irish unity.
0:09:58 > 0:10:01a statement, I think,
0:10:01 > 0:10:10He will not be the leader will not go on forever.
0:10:10 > 0:10:17Yeah, he talked about liking the in transition and as and when...
0:10:44 > 0:10:55And you see when we make that we support him.
0:10:55 > 0:11:00it's interesting to speculate. it... Good. ..but, you know,
0:11:00 > 0:11:02Thank you. ..Dublin there,
0:11:02 > 0:11:04Mary Lou McDonald.
0:11:04 > 0:11:09Patricia, first of all, Pete Shirlow and Patricia MacBride.
0:11:09 > 0:11:17There is a fundamental difficulty on compellability.
0:11:17 > 0:11:19on this island.
0:11:21 > 0:11:25in a formal inquiry
0:11:25 > 0:11:33But the reality of operations everyone concedes is a difficulty.
0:11:33 > 0:11:36are cooperating on matters like
0:11:36 > 0:11:40fuel laundering.
0:11:40 > 0:11:47There's no reason why in terms of investigations.
0:11:47 > 0:11:50cooperate on criminal matters
0:11:50 > 0:11:53if that exists.
0:11:53 > 0:11:56if you look at things like
0:11:56 > 0:11:59Location of Victims' Remains,
0:12:07 > 0:12:11inquiry into the Project Eagle sale.
0:12:11 > 0:12:20What about political cooperation, working cooperatively cross-border.
0:12:20 > 0:12:35which aren't being different issues here
0:12:35 > 0:12:37a cross-border commitment
0:12:37 > 0:12:40public committees, etc.
0:12:40 > 0:12:43First of all,
0:12:43 > 0:12:45no crime has yet been proven.
0:12:45 > 0:12:53maybe that has been important, which is trial by media,
0:12:53 > 0:12:55actually here is
0:12:55 > 0:13:08You can't prosecute somebody for which have different laws.
0:13:08 > 0:13:10are the legislations
0:13:10 > 0:13:17That's the issue. It's not... in both parts of the island. OK.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20particular political party,
0:13:20 > 0:13:29and hear lots more from you a OK, we'll come back to both of you
0:13:29 > 0:13:39a special legal procedure to Deputy First Ministers used
0:13:39 > 0:13:45With me now is the Green BBC journalist David Gordon.
0:13:45 > 0:14:00what are they? I think it's a reservations about this appointment,
0:14:00 > 0:14:03the Assembly in this appointment,
0:14:03 > 0:14:11So it's been made in a vacuum Commissioner of Public Appointments.
0:14:11 > 0:14:18a statement in which it says The Executive Office has issued
0:14:18 > 0:14:47across Europe and America in Dublin, in London,
0:14:59 > 0:15:14and asked him to do the job. on the shoulder
0:15:14 > 0:15:21Why are we not having a about Nama.
0:15:21 > 0:15:39We've seen recently just in the a north-south inquiry.
0:15:47 > 0:15:50and we've all had an from the Executive Office
0:15:50 > 0:15:55I mean, this is the be summed up in one sentence.
0:15:55 > 0:16:02I think the fuss is about What's the fuss about?
0:16:10 > 0:16:16and I think if you even look at who use of public money
0:16:16 > 0:16:19journalist, he's a digger.
0:16:27 > 0:16:32against effective challenge.
0:16:32 > 0:16:43they can bring him into the tent, they can employ David Gordon,
0:16:43 > 0:16:45is that you're all frit
0:16:45 > 0:16:47you're terrified now because
0:16:47 > 0:16:55I think it's the opposite. Arlene to be working for the executive.
0:16:55 > 0:16:57she's challenged, she loses her rag,
0:16:57 > 0:17:20OK, let's just bring in Arlene.
0:17:20 > 0:17:30Well, there's an element here, there and everywhere else."
0:17:30 > 0:17:37"Well, why would it not be all right have to sort of think,
0:17:37 > 0:17:44because all it does is sift out to do that
0:17:45 > 0:18:06I think that the problem with to make this appointment?
0:18:06 > 0:18:21there you go, the best person for the job,
0:18:21 > 0:18:32which is, or a George Orwell book,
0:18:32 > 0:18:42That's one of the most unmannerly, of North Korea.
0:18:54 > 0:18:58It made accusations about people.
0:18:58 > 0:19:03"you did things like this whenever in charge, you're not in charge,
0:19:03 > 0:19:14The document should've been coming out of transition needs.
0:19:14 > 0:19:26That was what was issued statement, I think.
0:19:26 > 0:19:30a lot of points to pick up on here.
0:19:30 > 0:19:39"is a political decision, of David Gordon
0:19:39 > 0:20:27Yeah. And this is something that Get over yourselves.
0:20:27 > 0:20:48As a paediatric pathologist
0:20:48 > 0:20:51says it will investigate
0:20:51 > 0:21:15A DUP MLA reveals Northern Ireland property portfolio.
0:21:46 > 0:22:10is likely to be up at Stormont it says about what the mood
0:22:10 > 0:22:35to not just simply be an opposition for the opposition
0:22:35 > 0:23:24responding to a government a politics which is about
0:23:24 > 0:23:33Join me for Stormont Today, that's for this week.