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:00:49. > :00:54.It is budget week which means that Westminster Mills get into

:00:55. > :01:00.overdrive. Will it be good by national rates. Will it be hollow

:01:00. > :01:10.tycoon tax? What can the Chancellor do to get the wheels of British

:01:10. > :01:13.

:01:13. > :01:16.And should we rebuilding more on England's green and pleasant land

:01:16. > :01:25.are should it be back to the drawing board with the Government's

:01:25. > :01:28.And on Sunday Politics Scotland, Nearly one in four young people in

:01:28. > :01:31.Scotland doesn't have a job. Will next Wednesday's budget do anything

:01:31. > :01:38.to help get them back to work? And we hear from Scotland's Special

:01:38. > :01:41.Envoy and HIV campaigner Annie Lennox. She tells us wealthy

:01:41. > :01:51.countries should stick to their aid promises if we want to avoid a

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:01:51. > :27:23.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1532 seconds

:27:23. > :27:32.That is a building permit system not a planning system. If you could

:27:32. > :27:38.show it was socially or environmental or economically

:27:38. > :27:42.viable, it would work. What about his.? The issue is there is

:27:42. > :27:47.complete disagreement about whether are not what Simon Hughes it has is

:27:47. > :27:51.in the document. We would have argued very strongly that all the

:27:51. > :27:59.protections that had previously been in place remain in place.

:27:59. > :28:03.why are you changing it? What we had was a complex system where

:28:03. > :28:08.there were 1000 pages of planning guidance down to 56. You say you

:28:08. > :28:13.are making it simpler, but you are not changing the principles it is

:28:13. > :28:23.based on? We are allowing neighbourhoods to have a greater

:28:23. > :28:24.

:28:24. > :28:31.say. We are ensuring that the land of the lowest environmental ball --

:28:31. > :28:38.environmental value is looked at. It is not any sustainable tried --

:28:38. > :28:42.type of environment. It meant that that it didn't make a profit? I am

:28:42. > :28:47.expecting the document to have changed. We consulted lawyers,

:28:47. > :28:51.everyone on this, it was going to be a lawyers' charter. Every

:28:51. > :28:56.planning application would be appealed against. It was a really

:28:56. > :29:02.bad system. I am hoping you are right this time. I am confident we

:29:02. > :29:06.are right this time. Can I answer the point that you have asked me to

:29:06. > :29:12.answer which was the first one. We are confident the war we had in the

:29:12. > :29:17.first place was not what Simon described. We were confident in

:29:17. > :29:21.what was there in terms of sustainable development. Do you

:29:21. > :29:26.think building should be taking place in existing towns or should

:29:26. > :29:31.it be in the countryside? I would like to see brownfield spaces in

:29:31. > :29:41.existing towns to be developed first. It talked-about lowest

:29:41. > :29:44.

:29:44. > :29:49.environmental amenity value. If you read the document... He has read it.

:29:50. > :29:54.Away have all read that first document. A none of us has read the

:29:54. > :29:59.new one. But she will soon have the chance. There is a commitment from

:29:59. > :30:04.us to have by the end of March which we will do. Away will hold

:30:04. > :30:13.you to that commitment. It is approaching 12:30pm. You are

:30:13. > :30:17.Good afternoon and welcome to Sunday Politics Scotland. Coming

:30:17. > :30:23.upon the programme: The number of people who don't have jobs

:30:23. > :30:28.continues to spiral upwards. This week it up to 134,000. So how can

:30:28. > :30:33.we get Scotland back to work? Emil the Chancellor's budget are help or

:30:33. > :30:38.hinder? We will be talking to the Finance Secretary. Is the

:30:38. > :30:43.Government's promise of free education really the best package

:30:43. > :30:47.available in the UK? The Eurythmics singer and HIV

:30:47. > :30:51.activist Annie Lennox tells us which Western countries are not

:30:51. > :30:56.delivering on their life-saving promises. If we don't come met and

:30:56. > :31:06.sustain the kind of work that has been done, it will reverse and

:31:06. > :31:07.

:31:07. > :31:11.tragically results will be possibly a kind of Cass atrophic thing. --

:31:11. > :31:14.catastrophic and should are near Shetland take advantage of the

:31:14. > :31:15.present constitutional wrangling and become independent from

:31:15. > :31:23.Scotland of a "yes" vote is successful?

:31:23. > :31:26.Good afternoon. This week, George Osborne wasn't -- George Osborne's

:31:27. > :31:31.budget has many challenges to address. Tackling unemployment is

:31:31. > :31:35.one of them, but it is a very important one. Last week, with the

:31:35. > :31:39.Scottish jobless figures rising yet again, we saw a summit aimed at

:31:39. > :31:43.tackling youth unemployment. But what can politicians do? Not just

:31:43. > :31:47.about the short-term, but the long- term challenge? Our business and

:31:47. > :31:50.economy editor, Douglas Fraser, has been asking how to get Scotland

:31:50. > :31:53.back to work, for a special programme to be broadcast tomorrow

:31:53. > :32:00.evening. If there are some jobs in Glasgow

:32:00. > :32:04.but getting them is not easy. Growing up, you always imagine to

:32:04. > :32:09.yourselves, I want to do this, I want to do that. You think it will

:32:09. > :32:13.be easy. I thought I am leaving school, I am going to get a job and

:32:13. > :32:19.I will work. Then you realise it is not that simple. It is really,

:32:19. > :32:28.really hard to get a job. In it is not just the downturn, with eight

:32:28. > :32:32.stalling. It is not clear that the job market offers prosperity. A few

:32:32. > :32:39.are talking about James, you would talk about having a lot of money, a

:32:39. > :32:45.family, a big car. The reality I can see myself with a normal job

:32:45. > :32:49.with a minimum wage. I might have one child and a council house.

:32:49. > :32:57.reason why youth unemployment matters so much is a lesson from a

:32:57. > :33:01.previous generation. This man is getting advice from the Wise Group.

:33:01. > :33:05.Decades later the consequence for his age group - repeat unemployment

:33:05. > :33:11.and low pay. I have been unemployed for 14 months and all I have been

:33:11. > :33:16.doing is going on the internet, looking for work and writing a way

:33:16. > :33:23.for jobs and not getting any replied. Joining different contract

:33:23. > :33:30.companies and getting told I am just a figure. Other than that,

:33:30. > :33:35.nothing. It make sure quite lazy. You think, what is the point of

:33:35. > :33:40.fawning. Ways to get back into the labour force requires adaptability.

:33:40. > :33:45.So on people say I need a job, any job. When you talk to them, you

:33:45. > :33:53.find out that Nate -- that may not be true. They may not be aware of

:33:53. > :33:56.this more or -- other recruitment procedures. We take them back to

:33:56. > :34:06.find a what they have to offer, what skills do they have, what are

:34:06. > :34:07.

:34:07. > :34:13.they looking far with no job?, men in particular suffer most. I would

:34:13. > :34:19.reckon that by the age of three, you have managed to get work in the

:34:19. > :34:24.future or you are a lost cause. It is simple things, do your parents

:34:24. > :34:30.talk to you? Do you respond. Do you know how to play with toys? Do you

:34:30. > :34:34.know how to play with friends? Do you resolve conflicts? In a

:34:34. > :34:39.hospitality industry those of skills are particularly important.

:34:39. > :34:42.This hotel chain based in Edinburgh with 800 employees takes the best

:34:42. > :34:47.candidates on the day and while it is controversial, many with the

:34:47. > :34:56.right skills come from Holland.. is hard to get the job. If you have

:34:56. > :34:59.got it, you always try your best. You tried -- Jong has tried to do

:34:59. > :35:04.the best. I am looking for somebody who are smart and well groomed. Who

:35:04. > :35:09.turns up on time if not before. I am looking for someone who smiles

:35:09. > :35:15.with a natural smile. Someone who can hold eye-contact. I am looking

:35:15. > :35:20.for some creativeness, a spark. How much of that spark should come

:35:20. > :35:26.from politics? This week in Dundee, Scotland's three years of

:35:26. > :35:30.Government joined forces with up those who may have answers. The

:35:30. > :35:35.politicians report has repeated the same mistakes, been too short-term

:35:35. > :35:41.and then people exposed. For people who have not got skills, you go

:35:41. > :35:47.through what the jobs are like in the JobCentre and you can see the

:35:47. > :35:50.employers do not at guaranteed to provide you West minimum wage.

:35:51. > :35:58.There is no guaranteed holiday. These are exploitative forms of

:35:58. > :36:02.employment which provides no protection at all. It is a disgrace.

:36:02. > :36:07.That report by Douglas Fraser. And his programme called 'Getting

:36:07. > :36:10.Scotland Back to Work' is broadcast on BBC Scotland tomorrow evening at

:36:10. > :36:13.10:35pm. I am joined now by the Finance

:36:13. > :36:19.Secretary John Swinney who is in our Dundee studio.

:36:19. > :36:25.Mr Swinney, the jobless total in Scotland is still on the rise.

:36:25. > :36:28.234,000 now. How much higher do you expected to go? What we're seeing

:36:28. > :36:32.with the unemployment position is a reflection of the difficult

:36:32. > :36:37.economic conditions that we face and the challenge for us to make

:36:37. > :36:41.sure that we take every step we can to address that so those economic

:36:41. > :36:46.conditions and that we use every available intervention we have to

:36:46. > :36:49.try to create employment of sit in Scotland. That has been the

:36:49. > :36:52.approach the Scottish Government has taken about her own

:36:52. > :36:56.responsibilities. It is also what we have encouraged the UK

:36:56. > :37:02.Government to do as approaches the budget as we look forward to next

:37:02. > :37:08.May. Do you expect that figure to follow any time soon? What we saw

:37:08. > :37:13.in the figures that came out last week was a slow -- slowing up Ben

:37:13. > :37:18.the increase of unemployment. I appreciate that situation is still

:37:18. > :37:22.very significant. That is a welcome indication that the scale of

:37:22. > :37:31.increase is slowing up, we may be looking at a more optimistic

:37:31. > :37:34.outlook. I think from the other surveys that have been published,

:37:34. > :37:39.particularly, the one on business attitudes, there is a growing level

:37:39. > :37:44.of confidence within the economy. If there is that, then that will

:37:44. > :37:48.help in the whole process of job creation and Scotland. The problem

:37:48. > :37:53.is that unemployment is a lagging indicator and as we can say, youth

:37:53. > :37:57.unemployment is just going to keep on rising. It is over 100,000 now

:37:57. > :38:01.and it could get much worse than that. Youth unemployment is serious.

:38:01. > :38:04.That is why the Scottish Government has taken the steps it has taken to

:38:04. > :38:09.a point as specific Minister dealing with youth unemployment. It

:38:09. > :38:14.is why we have put in place 25,000 modern apprenticeships to be

:38:14. > :38:17.supported in every year of this Parliamentary term. It is why we

:38:17. > :38:21.have given a guaranteed every 16 to 19-year-old that if they cannot

:38:21. > :38:26.find a job, we will make sure that they have got employment are

:38:26. > :38:32.training opportunity available to them. As a park funding for

:38:32. > :38:37.colleges? The college funding situation was given a boost just a

:38:37. > :38:42.few weeks ago. We are in a position to deliver that commitment to have

:38:42. > :38:46.a place for every 16 to 19-year-old in training or education. Does this

:38:46. > :38:51.weekend we have set out the level of funding they will go to six

:38:51. > :38:55.local authorities in Scotland which have particular difficulties in the

:38:55. > :38:58.field of youth unemployment. We will be supporting different

:38:58. > :39:03.projects a local level and complementing the work that the

:39:03. > :39:09.Government is taking forward. last point, funding some local

:39:09. > :39:12.authorities. It is only �9 million and it is only Glasgow and its

:39:12. > :39:16.surrounding local authority areas. Why are you only focusing a Glasgow

:39:16. > :39:22.and the surrounding areas? Is that because there is an election coming

:39:22. > :39:26.up? No There is an intensity of unemployment in these areas. If

:39:26. > :39:29.people argue that we should concentrate in the areas of most

:39:29. > :39:39.difficulty, we should do that. We should not be criticised on taking

:39:39. > :39:41.

:39:41. > :39:47.a focused approach. But of course it is all part of a wider economic

:39:47. > :39:57.message where we are intent on making sure the Scottish economy

:39:57. > :39:59.

:39:59. > :40:03.work -- economy grows. We look to work effectively across all areas

:40:03. > :40:07.of the economy to make the most of those particular opportunities.

:40:07. > :40:11.what you make of one of the measures that is being suggested as

:40:11. > :40:16.a possible budget measure to be announced on Wednesday by the

:40:17. > :40:22.Chancellor, the prospect of a freeze on public-sector pay in some

:40:22. > :40:26.parts of the UK? In parts of the UK where there is a lower cost of

:40:26. > :40:30.living, to try to persuade more people to get jobs and the private

:40:30. > :40:36.sector. Is that something you support? I think that is a generous

:40:36. > :40:40.way of describing what I have heard the Chancellor's proposal is

:40:40. > :40:47.rumoured to be. It is a reduction in pay for people in areas lie with

:40:47. > :40:51.the side that England. -- the South of England. That will be a

:40:51. > :40:55.disastrous approach if it is taken by the Chancellor because it will

:40:55. > :40:59.undermine economic confidence in areas far removed from the South

:40:59. > :41:04.East of England. It will do absolutely nothing to solve the

:41:04. > :41:08.regional inequities that exist within the UK. I think it is an

:41:08. > :41:13.indication of this is a fact that my counterparts in Wales and

:41:13. > :41:18.Northern island and is opposed to this as I am. Edgar sure measure of

:41:18. > :41:23.the potential disastrous impact this will have, not only on

:41:23. > :41:29.employment and renumeration but on public expenditure. Will you

:41:29. > :41:36.intervene to prevent that from having effect -- an effect in

:41:36. > :41:40.Scotland? I have made clear to the Treasury, both in writing and in

:41:40. > :41:46.person, my complete opposition to the approach they are taking a

:41:46. > :41:50.regional pay. If the United Kingdom Government is interested in taking

:41:50. > :41:57.their views of the devolved administration, they have not got a

:41:57. > :42:01.basis to what the poor -- the Chancellor has proposed.

:42:01. > :42:05.control �30 billion of public Scotland -- public spending in

:42:05. > :42:09.Scotland. You could top-up those salaries to negate the effect of

:42:09. > :42:15.that policy if it is announced. cannot intervene on pay rates which

:42:15. > :42:20.I have no control over. Let's be clear. The Scottish Government will

:42:20. > :42:29.go nowhere near this proposal for the areas and people that I said to

:42:29. > :42:33.be under control. When it comes to the day -- the UK Government

:42:33. > :42:38.responsibilities, regional pay would be damaging to individuals.

:42:38. > :42:45.It would be damaging to local economies and Scotland and to

:42:45. > :42:50.public expenditure in Scotland. We will oppose it.

:42:50. > :42:59.We are joined now by two party finance spokesman. In Edinburgh,

:42:59. > :43:03.Gavin Brown for the Scottish Conservatives, and here in Glasgow,

:43:03. > :43:10.Scotland's -- Scottish Labour's Ken Macintosh.

:43:10. > :43:14.Let me as Ken Macintosh about this measure. Knitted as a possible

:43:14. > :43:19.solution to the gap that exists between public sector and private

:43:19. > :43:25.sector employment in Scotland. Would you back that measure? No, I

:43:25. > :43:30.find myself in agreement with John Swinney. It is not just a bad

:43:30. > :43:33.measure. It is dangerous because it seems to be based on the premise

:43:33. > :43:43.that the public and the private sector are rival sectors, that

:43:43. > :43:45.

:43:45. > :43:51.public sector... The private sector, we need the private sector to be

:43:51. > :43:54.dynamic. We need up public sector to be there to provide services and

:43:54. > :43:58.the two makar intertwined. And wages and the public sector are

:43:58. > :44:08.part of the dynamic of the spend in the private sector. They are

:44:08. > :44:20.

:44:20. > :44:26.There was a quote in this is not -- is not an official Government

:44:26. > :44:30.policy. You should not very carefully, any change would have to

:44:30. > :44:36.be done extremely carefully to avoid some of the dangers that have

:44:36. > :44:40.been touched on by the two previous speakers. Ultimately, the cost of

:44:40. > :44:44.living in some parts of the country is different to the cost of living

:44:45. > :44:49.in other parts of the country. I think there is a degree of

:44:49. > :44:54.speculation in terms of what has been reported. In the meantime,

:44:54. > :44:58.calls for a change of direction from the Chancellor, calls for him

:44:58. > :45:02.to introduce a planned a plus or a plan B, call it what you like, to

:45:02. > :45:08.try and generate some growth. Do you agree with those calls or is it

:45:08. > :45:15.steady as she goes? This idea of the Scottish plan B is slightly

:45:15. > :45:19.absurd. Priority number one must be ensuring that we maintain their

:45:20. > :45:26.triple-A status for the United Kingdom. Any diminution of that,

:45:26. > :45:29.any drop of that could lead to enormous paws on interest

:45:29. > :45:34.repayments and damage the country and economy. On top of that, we

:45:34. > :45:38.must address unemployment, and in particular, youth unemployment and

:45:38. > :45:42.try and get a degree of growth back into our economy. I think we are

:45:42. > :45:46.helped slightly from across the Atlantic from the news from the

:45:46. > :45:51.United States, one of our key export markets. When the economy

:45:51. > :45:55.picks up, it tends to have some kind of positive effect. We do not

:45:55. > :46:00.necessarily follow exactly. Look to America and hope for the best? It

:46:00. > :46:06.does not sound like much of a strategy. No, but something like

:46:06. > :46:12.the use contract which was announced, 160,000 people from the

:46:12. > :46:16.ages of 18 and 24, that actually goes live in April so that was an

:46:16. > :46:23.ex-lover knighted at the time. It has not gone why get and so has not

:46:23. > :46:29.managed to have an impact at the time. Ken Macintosh, it is easy to

:46:29. > :46:33.talk about investment and trying to invest to create growth and jobs,

:46:33. > :46:36.but what we must create in Scotland is private sector jobs. To deal

:46:36. > :46:42.with the fact that the public sector is a shrinking just now.

:46:42. > :46:45.Labour have not been very good at doing that. We must treat both. I

:46:45. > :46:52.do not see the difference between the public and private sector in

:46:52. > :46:56.those terms. But they are distinct, surely? Yes, but I do not think

:46:56. > :46:59.they are interdependent. You cannot have private sector growth without

:47:00. > :47:03.a strong public sector. The major issue the moment with the Tory

:47:03. > :47:08.plans is that they are not delivering. Either in terms of pain

:47:08. > :47:11.down the deficit or in jobs and growth. What worries me is that

:47:11. > :47:15.they are fundamentally unfair. I do not quite understand what is

:47:16. > :47:19.happening with this Budget. People talk in the lead-up to the Budget

:47:19. > :47:24.seems to be about how much more we can attack the public sector and

:47:24. > :47:28.whether or not to get rid of a 50p tax rate on those earning over

:47:28. > :47:31.�150,000. We're talking about tried to protect the rich and poor will

:47:31. > :47:37.often society, where everyone else, those who would have been earning

:47:37. > :47:41.tax credits or gaining benefit or child benefits, and those on public

:47:41. > :47:45.sector pay are getting their pay frozen. Everyone at work on middle

:47:45. > :47:49.earnings are getting hammered. The Chancellor is concerned with those

:47:49. > :47:53.at the top of the plan is not working. Gavin Brown, will be are

:47:53. > :47:56.always in this together. Macintosh says he does not

:47:56. > :48:02.understand the Budget. I believe the main reason for that is that it

:48:02. > :48:06.has not happened bed. But the speculation about 50p tax... Very

:48:06. > :48:12.briefly, would you support the cut in a 50p tax rate? Would I

:48:12. > :48:15.supported? Personally, of course I would like to see it. I think there

:48:15. > :48:20.is something important psychologically... But that is not

:48:20. > :48:24.a priority, it cannot be a priority. I think there is a number of

:48:24. > :48:26.priorities, but in theory I would like to see it happen. The

:48:26. > :48:30.Chancellor has been quite clear that he is trying to help low and

:48:30. > :48:37.middle earners with this Budget, and that is his priority this time

:48:37. > :48:40.around. That is his priority, low and middle earners. If it was true

:48:40. > :48:44.that would certainly be what we want, but can I say that every

:48:44. > :48:47.single piece of speculation, and it is speculation, but every piece of

:48:47. > :48:50.speculation has been about protecting the better off and

:48:50. > :48:56.squeezing those in the middle. For example, those who are getting

:48:56. > :48:58.pension relief, those earning one had and �50,000 are getting pension

:48:58. > :49:04.relief. These are massive sums of money coming into the Treasury that

:49:04. > :49:08.could be used to protect working tax credits. -- are those on

:49:08. > :49:13.�150,000. The head or political steam has

:49:13. > :49:15.been building a road affordable childcare and nursery education.

:49:15. > :49:19.The First Minister grabbed headlines with a promise to

:49:19. > :49:23.increase free nursery provision. That may not take effect for

:49:23. > :49:28.several years. Meanwhile, an influential study has pointed out

:49:28. > :49:32.that costs and patchy provision of childcare here. Our correspondent

:49:32. > :49:38.reports now on the arguments as to whether Scotland is ahead of the

:49:38. > :49:42.tour were lagging behind. Children these days. If Mum and Dad

:49:42. > :49:47.had a job, a nursery place or some other form of childcare can make

:49:47. > :49:50.all the difference between juggling parenthood and work. For the

:49:50. > :49:55.Scotland's Government Ellie years plant aims to benefit children

:49:55. > :50:00.parents and the economy. At the SNP spring conference, one of Alex

:50:01. > :50:04.Allen's he promises was about nurseries. We will place into the

:50:04. > :50:10.new children spell at Parliament next year a statutory guarantee of

:50:10. > :50:20.over 600 hours of free nursery education for every Scottish three

:50:20. > :50:21.

:50:21. > :50:26.and four-year-old. -- one of Alex Salmond's.

:50:26. > :50:31.A's -- for every Scottish three and four-year-old, and for every looked

:50:31. > :50:35.after two-year-old in her land. The best package of free nursery

:50:35. > :50:39.education on offer anywhere in the United Kingdom. A statement of

:50:39. > :50:43.faith and commitment for the future. Scotland is promising more than 600

:50:43. > :50:49.hours per year Frida save for all three and 40 old. How does that

:50:49. > :50:53.match up to the best of the United Kingdom? De annual hours in England

:50:53. > :50:55.Kingdom? De annual hours in England are 570. In Wales, there is a

:50:55. > :51:00.minimum of 380 hours, but some minimum of 380 hours, but some

:51:00. > :51:04.councils provide extra. In Northern Ireland, the figure varies between

:51:04. > :51:07.475 at 800 hours. The authorities there do not tend to fund more than

:51:07. > :51:12.there do not tend to fund more than one year. Alex Allen's promise on

:51:12. > :51:17.nursery owners went down well with the party faithful. It came up

:51:18. > :51:22.again at First Minister's question. A family's need action now. Not a

:51:22. > :51:26.clause in a children's bill, and not a two-year delay. Families do

:51:26. > :51:29.not just need legislation in the future, they need a Government now

:51:30. > :51:35.that will provide the funding to deliver reliable and affordable

:51:35. > :51:40.childcare when people need it. Glasgow, St Roch's childcare

:51:40. > :51:45.services takes in very young children. For their parents,

:51:45. > :51:51.finding affordable and flexible childcare is crucial. I know what

:51:51. > :51:55.I'm getting every month, so I am budgeted for that. So I know where

:51:55. > :52:02.I stand every month, but if I was to get a little bit more help, that

:52:02. > :52:07.would be easier. If it is expensive, the childcare. Sometimes I can't

:52:07. > :52:11.afford it. The issue has also been on the news. Here in Scotland,

:52:11. > :52:15.young families are pay more for childcare than almost anywhere in

:52:15. > :52:18.the UK. A survey from the charity the day-care Trust and children in

:52:18. > :52:23.Scotland found that prices here were on a par with the south-east

:52:23. > :52:26.of England, and there were huge gaps in provision. The charity's

:52:26. > :52:30.report was called the Scottish Child care lottery, and featured in

:52:30. > :52:34.the holidays debate led by the Liberal Democrats. These issues

:52:34. > :52:38.appear to be specific to Scotland and confirmed that any number of

:52:38. > :52:43.areas we lack behind the rest of the UK. This is worrying. For our

:52:43. > :52:46.children, high-quality healthcare including nursery care can be key

:52:46. > :52:50.to supporting their development. The Conservatives say the system in

:52:51. > :52:54.Scotland is not flexible enough. Instead of choice been about when

:52:54. > :52:59.and how to spend entitlement, it becomes a debate about whether to

:52:59. > :53:05.work or to have childcare. Actually, that has very serious consequences

:53:05. > :53:08.for some parents, particularly if they are on their own.

:53:08. > :53:12.Children's Minister announced plans to make the current scheme work

:53:12. > :53:18.better, and Lunn bustard welfare reforms brought in by the

:53:18. > :53:23.Government in Westminster. Across the country, parents wait delivery

:53:23. > :53:28.of the promise on childcare. It is due to start is to many -- journey

:53:28. > :53:33.through Parliament next year. Inner Edinburgh studio is Bronwen

:53:33. > :53:38.Cohen, chief executive of children in Scotland. Add in the studio we

:53:38. > :53:42.are joined by Professor Ron McWade, head of the Employment Institute at

:53:42. > :53:46.Edinburgh University. -- Professor Ron McQuaid.

:53:46. > :53:50.It is hard for families to balance work with family life, are there

:53:50. > :53:55.signs that some are finding it impossible? It is very hard, and I

:53:55. > :54:00.think that Scotland East to be much better than England and Wales. I

:54:00. > :54:03.think that it is the -- I think that the situation it now is in a

:54:03. > :54:07.worse place for parents than in England and Wales. I do think that

:54:07. > :54:12.we should be aspiring to do more than just try and be better than

:54:12. > :54:18.those elsewhere in the UK. We need to actually be addressing her very

:54:18. > :54:21.poor position in terms of Europe as a whole. These UK as a whole is

:54:21. > :54:28.failing miserably to meet the targets set ten years ago by the

:54:28. > :54:32.European Commission. It is for full-time places for more than 90%

:54:32. > :54:38.of three and four-year-olds. And for 33% of under three year old.

:54:38. > :54:41.The figures we are looking at in Scotland are 5% for under-threes

:54:41. > :54:44.and a quarter of three and four- year-old, if we are looking at

:54:44. > :54:49.full-time places. That makes it very hard for families. I beg your

:54:49. > :54:53.pardon, sorry to interrupt, but the effect, one McWade, is that woman

:54:53. > :54:59.stop working when they have children and do not return to the

:54:59. > :55:05.work for. -- Ron McQuaid. Many women work part-time, actually.

:55:05. > :55:09.Around 43% of women work part-time. That is half-a-million woman. Many

:55:09. > :55:13.of those return later as part time work or they read the work force

:55:13. > :55:19.altogether. But when they do return, often they did not reach the full

:55:19. > :55:25.potential Dessie had India Korea beforehand. We are bad at

:55:25. > :55:30.supporting people. -- potential of they had in India career. That is a

:55:30. > :55:34.brain drain, in effect? It is a huge brain-drain. The skills and

:55:34. > :55:39.experience of these people are not being used. If you are in your late

:55:39. > :55:43.30s, and you are -- and your children are grown-up and you are

:55:43. > :55:48.going into the labour force, you still have more than 30 years in

:55:48. > :55:53.the workforce ahead. Bronwen Cohen, in terms of specific measures to

:55:53. > :55:57.address this problem, Alex Salmond announced last year at 600 hours of

:55:58. > :56:03.free nursery care for each child, he will put it in law. It may take

:56:03. > :56:07.a few years until it comes into effect. What impact will that have?

:56:07. > :56:12.I am very pleased that the First Minister has decided to take a lead

:56:12. > :56:16.on addressing this issue, I believe the situation has gone worse. The

:56:16. > :56:21.benefits of investing in proper early years, they are not just a

:56:21. > :56:24.matter of for Education, they are not just a matter for employment.

:56:24. > :56:29.They call across the Scottish economy. That Scotland is going to

:56:29. > :56:33.actually achieved the aspirations that we set ourselves, then early

:56:33. > :56:37.years has a place in it. It is good that he is taking the lead on it,

:56:37. > :56:42.but what he must do is address the fragmentation, the fragmented

:56:42. > :56:46.approach we take to this. problem is that it is only a

:56:46. > :56:50.partial solution, isn't it? There is 16 hours three per week, but

:56:50. > :56:55.parents must pick up the tab for everything else if they want to

:56:55. > :56:58.work. Absolutely, because we insist on treating early education as

:56:58. > :57:03.something that is separate from the care that working parents require,

:57:03. > :57:08.but also the broader needs that children themselves have. We divide

:57:08. > :57:12.between overseas and under-threes, and we divide between education and

:57:12. > :57:17.health. We talk about childcare and then talk about pre-school

:57:17. > :57:20.education. The countries that have succeeded in addressing this, at

:57:20. > :57:25.all countries started at the same position, but the countries that

:57:25. > :57:28.have achieved it have done it by bringing together education and

:57:28. > :57:32.childcare, recognising the contribution to health and other

:57:32. > :57:37.areas. In the contribution -- in the context of your earlier story

:57:37. > :57:40.about the economy and budget, it is time that we recognise that

:57:40. > :57:43.investing in these services is not just a long-term matter, it is

:57:43. > :57:47.about achieving things in the longer term, I believe quite

:57:47. > :57:50.strongly that we must look at how we can galvanise the Scottish

:57:50. > :57:54.economy. The single biggest group of children living in poverty, the

:57:54. > :58:00.single biggest group of Scots living in poverty, our children

:58:00. > :58:04.under three. A quarter of children under three are in families living

:58:04. > :58:10.under the poverty threshold. What is the root out of that? Better

:58:10. > :58:16.services. Roman McWade, that sounds like a need for big Government. Is

:58:16. > :58:19.there an appetite for that kind of radical change? To provide that

:58:19. > :58:23.Billy here support to let women back into the workforce? I totally

:58:23. > :58:27.agree that we must have a much more joined up, much more comprehensive

:58:27. > :58:32.review of looking at not just nurseries, but childcare and

:58:32. > :58:38.support. It is not just about childcare, it is about tax and the

:58:38. > :58:42.pliability support. And other issues such as transport, which we

:58:42. > :58:48.need to provide a whole package for people to get back into work and to

:58:48. > :58:53.continue into work. Working for families did try to do that, around

:58:53. > :58:57.five years ago, in 2004 to 2008. There was �50 million spent by the

:58:57. > :59:04.Scottish Government one working families. It deliberately tried to

:59:04. > :59:09.integrate various types of childcare. OK, we are short of time,

:59:09. > :59:15.but problem:, one of the issues that this raises a is the role of

:59:15. > :59:21.state nurseries. -- Bronwen Cohen. At holidays, Easter and Christmas,

:59:21. > :59:25.children do not get the wrap around care that is needed. Should there,

:59:25. > :59:30.could there be a reform of that to help more women get back into work?

:59:30. > :59:33.You mean in terms of making greater use of schools? Absolutely.

:59:33. > :59:37.Countries that have achieved this have done it by making much more

:59:37. > :59:42.effective use of schools. It is not just a matter of more money, we

:59:42. > :59:46.should be making more effective use of money. Surveys show that these

:59:46. > :59:50.UK spent quite a lot by early years. Word has it: what to be achieved?

:59:50. > :59:54.What we are doing is funding poverty, funding fragmentation,

:59:54. > :59:59.because we do not have a grip on bringing together these areas

:59:59. > :00:04.benefits which extend beyond ending poverty. They extend beyond

:00:04. > :00:07.education, they moved into areas like greater creativity, what of

:00:07. > :00:13.research now shows the benefits that come in the longer term over

:00:13. > :00:17.the lifetime, not only in terms of health but in terms of education,

:00:17. > :00:21.creativity, employability. That is why I say it is an issue for the

:00:22. > :00:24.First Minister. The First Minister must take a grip of this. Whilst we

:00:24. > :00:29.are reduced to be much better than England and Wales, or we are now

:00:29. > :00:39.not so good and we need to actually move back and do something about it.

:00:39. > :00:39.

:00:39. > :00:45.The multi-award-winning singer Annie Lennox was back in Scotland

:00:46. > :00:49.this week. She visited Holyrood to update them on a role as special

:00:49. > :00:53.and -- as special envoy to after car for the Commonwealth

:00:53. > :01:00.Parliamentary Association. Earlier in the year, she went to Mullaly

:01:00. > :01:03.with the Presiding Officer Alex Fergusson. We got up -- we cut up

:01:03. > :01:10.with her and began by asking if this was a critical moment in the

:01:10. > :01:16.battle against HIV and AIDS. Anyone who is representing any issue is

:01:16. > :01:23.now having to fight for this. So despite all of the tremendous

:01:23. > :01:28.progress that has been made over their last decade or so, if we

:01:28. > :01:34.don't come met and sustained the type of work that has been done, it

:01:34. > :01:40.will reverse. Tragically their results will be possibly a kind of

:01:40. > :01:45.catastrophic thing. And I think it would be really be a mess if we

:01:45. > :01:50.don't see through our Millennium development goals, we don't Ellice

:01:50. > :01:55.commit and sustained stay without gall and focus. From this has been

:01:55. > :01:59.made and some of them have not been followed on by some of the ones

:01:59. > :02:04.made by the richest countries in the world. -- promises. Companies

:02:04. > :02:10.like Germany, Japan. It is not paying its full share into the

:02:10. > :02:14.global fund. It must be frustrating for you? I think it is absolutely

:02:14. > :02:19.frustrating when one, when you have seen the background of the issues

:02:19. > :02:24.that one is representing, in terms of education, nutrition for

:02:24. > :02:30.children. In terms of women's rights and source of healthcare. It

:02:30. > :02:33.just goes right across the board. Here in Edinburgh when we were

:02:33. > :02:37.campaigning in the make cover to -- Make Poverty History campaign, also

:02:37. > :02:41.knew that this was not something that was going to happen overnight.

:02:41. > :02:46.Poverty will never be made history overnight. But what we can do is

:02:46. > :02:50.make consistent attempts to keep the issue on the agenda. And how do

:02:50. > :02:54.you persuade countries in the West, which have problems with money,

:02:54. > :02:58.where unemployment is on the rise, where they struggle to deal with

:02:58. > :03:03.poverty in their own backyard. How do you persuade them to give their

:03:03. > :03:08.money to solve problems, perhaps on the other side of the world?

:03:08. > :03:15.completely understand how people are not feel. But we live in

:03:15. > :03:21.wealthy circumstances. I am a very privileged person. I think Fermi,

:03:21. > :03:25.the issue is an ethical one. We spent three times more on bottled

:03:25. > :03:31.water than we do to international aid. We have to get it into

:03:31. > :03:38.perspective. In some ways we are getting less worried by HIV and

:03:38. > :03:46.AIDS in the West as anti- -- as drugs take hold. Less people are

:03:46. > :03:55.dying here. Here the problem is... In visible. That is the problem.

:03:55. > :04:00.When issues are basing a whole population, it is an emergency,

:04:00. > :04:06.then we want to respond because it is there on the front news. It is

:04:06. > :04:10.in the papers. With the issue of HIV, for example, there is a lot of

:04:10. > :04:14.stigma around it, a lot of silence around it. Even in the countries

:04:14. > :04:19.where people have been wiped out on a regular basis, people are

:04:19. > :04:22.hesitant to talk about HIV and AIDS because of the stigma. So part of

:04:22. > :04:27.the challenge for an active as like myself is to keep pushing, so that

:04:28. > :04:33.it stays on the agenda. When you hear that message about safe sex,

:04:33. > :04:37.one that has tremendous effect on the problem, there are still summon

:04:37. > :04:42.the West announce that message. You hear from the Catholic Church and

:04:42. > :04:52.the ball. He must despair when you hear that? I'm do despair. I here

:04:52. > :04:55.

:04:56. > :05:03.and say what a nonce and it is. -- what a nonsense. A condom use, it

:05:03. > :05:08.is important. People get the contradictory message in a very

:05:08. > :05:14.powerful one coming from the Church, to say no, you should not use their

:05:14. > :05:18.condom. This is a nightmare. are here talking to the Scottish

:05:18. > :05:22.Government about a global struggle against a pandemic alert. But the

:05:22. > :05:27.focus here in Scholl and right now, if the political debate is

:05:27. > :05:30.dominated by a discussion on independence. -- in Scotland. Do

:05:30. > :05:36.you ever think to yourself this is navel-gazing. They should think our

:05:36. > :05:40.words. I understand, historically whether Scotland's days as part of

:05:40. > :05:47.the British Isles are is an independent country, is there not

:05:47. > :05:52.been thing for everyone. Life carries on as normal. In 30 years'

:05:52. > :05:56.time when we look back, when we were all saying will Scotland the

:05:56. > :06:01.Independent are not? This will be a critical time in their future for

:06:01. > :06:05.the people of Scotland. We will leave it there. Thank you.

:06:05. > :06:10.Annie Lennox there. Now should are near Shetland be allowed to remain

:06:10. > :06:15.part of the UK if the island's reject independence and the rest of

:06:15. > :06:19.Scotland falls far it in the referendum? A suggestion has come

:06:19. > :06:23.from both Lib Dem MPs for the Northern Isles, Tavish Scotland

:06:24. > :06:27.Liam McArthur. In the respond to the UK Government's referendum

:06:27. > :06:32.consultation, they are advocating enhanced powers for that islands

:06:32. > :06:36.including a different tax status within the UK. John Johnston

:06:36. > :06:42.reports. Shetland has considered itself

:06:42. > :06:48.different. It is proud to fly its own flag. It combines Scotland's

:06:48. > :06:55.national colours with an offset cross. Each year the community

:06:55. > :06:59.celebrates its Viking heritage. Many of Shetland's place names them

:06:59. > :07:09.from the old Norse language. Shetland has got a different

:07:09. > :07:10.

:07:10. > :07:17.history. Shell and was once part of Scandinavia. But a period of

:07:17. > :07:25.prosperity, Shetland has got very interested in their north past. --

:07:25. > :07:35.Norse. The islands are best known for the fiddle music. There is also

:07:35. > :07:37.

:07:37. > :07:42.assigned you will find anywhere else. The Shetland dialect. It is a

:07:42. > :07:47.dialect of Scots because we have been a part of Scotland for over

:07:47. > :07:53.500 years. But because of the 500 years before that we were part of

:07:53. > :07:58.Scandinavia, there are parts of the dialect which relate to Old Norse.

:07:58. > :08:03.But now the SNP's push for independence is reopening

:08:03. > :08:08.discussions about Scotland -- Shetland's constitutional position.

:08:08. > :08:12.We learn in the 70s when we took on central Government that we could do

:08:12. > :08:17.much better for the islands with our agreements with the oil

:08:17. > :08:21.companies. We have to look at that taper system again, a different

:08:21. > :08:28.system of taxation so we get cheaper fuel and cheaper transport.

:08:28. > :08:33.That is what will keep these islands a life. Afresh catch of

:08:33. > :08:39.crabs. Shetland was given the first regulated order and 2002 giving

:08:39. > :08:46.local fishermen the power to look after their own Inshaw fishery. The

:08:46. > :08:52.Island's she food industry is worth �320 million to their local economy.

:08:52. > :08:59.It has been a total disaster for the communities that depend on the

:08:59. > :09:04.fishery. What we need is regionalisation. That means

:09:04. > :09:11.listening to the fishermen, to the people, and to those who have to

:09:11. > :09:14.abide by the regulations. Tavish Scotland Liam McArthur say it is

:09:14. > :09:18.time to renegotiate their constitutional relationship between

:09:18. > :09:23.the Northern Isles and the Scottish mainland. They want to see more pub

:09:23. > :09:27.powers for the islands. To achieve that we need to have some political

:09:27. > :09:31.leverage. There needs that organisation that is pushing for

:09:31. > :09:36.autonomy. I do not see that here. To see their kind of things that

:09:36. > :09:41.have issues after, we have to be have to walk into Holyrood and to

:09:41. > :09:46.deal to say, we need to strike a deal here. I do not see us having

:09:47. > :09:50.any jets to put in front of the table. The Northern Isles adopted a

:09:50. > :09:56.different perspective and the 1970s on the constitutional debate from

:09:56. > :10:00.the rest of Scotland. There remains to be seen in 2014 what destination

:10:00. > :10:06.it decides on in this constitutional journey.

:10:06. > :10:09.Tavish Scott, the MSP for the Shetland Islands is with us now.

:10:09. > :10:14.Thanks for joining us. So of Scotland rose to become part

:10:14. > :10:20.Independent a few years far now, with that result be accepted in the

:10:20. > :10:25.Northern Isles? Who knows. The real point here is that instead of

:10:25. > :10:29.waiting to see what happens to us in the islands, Liam McArthur and I

:10:29. > :10:33.want to make sure there is a real debate about what we want on the

:10:33. > :10:41.governments of all scholar than the UK. Instead of just being seen as a

:10:41. > :10:51.box of the money first. We want to make sure we are seeing. -- Moray

:10:51. > :10:52.

:10:53. > :10:57.firth. To be absolutely clear, is Scotland goes independent, Shetland

:10:57. > :11:01.and the Orkney Isles may not going dependent, would that be right?

:11:01. > :11:06.That is what we're trying to elicit from the submission that we have

:11:07. > :11:11.played to the UK Government's discussion documents. I am not

:11:11. > :11:20.convinced the people of Shetland will fall for Scott -- for

:11:20. > :11:29.independence. -- will vote for. I think there is a great opportunity

:11:29. > :11:36.for Orkney and Shetland to decide the path for us. To make sure that

:11:36. > :11:43.those responsibilities maintain our economy and culture. What status

:11:43. > :11:47.would you like to see the Northern Isles have? A more autonomy, more

:11:47. > :11:52.like the Isle of Man? What do you imagine? I do want to see more

:11:52. > :11:55.autonomy because what we have seen over the last five years as a

:11:55. > :11:59.centralising of powers to enter Edinburgh, the taking away of

:11:59. > :12:09.responsibilities from local people. I do not think that is good for the

:12:09. > :12:14.

:12:14. > :12:18.islands at all. I want to devolve the powers to a local island so

:12:18. > :12:23.that we can take good decisions for the long-term interests of marine

:12:23. > :12:28.businesses, such as fishing and seafood businesses that depend on

:12:28. > :12:32.the sea far future. It is of the UK and I and another we would like to

:12:32. > :12:37.target in making a positive argument For Change they could

:12:37. > :12:43.astound -- strengthen our economy and identity. Should Glasgow,

:12:43. > :12:52.should Aberdeen have greater autonomy then? I am not the SNP for

:12:52. > :12:56.any other areas you have mentioned. -- MSP. In the past, the SNP did

:12:56. > :13:00.articulate a policy position of self-determination for the Northern

:13:00. > :13:04.Isles and I simply want to hold them to that. If their approach to

:13:05. > :13:10.the future of Scotland is based on oil and gas being part of the

:13:10. > :13:13.financial deal that would make Scotland Independent, that would

:13:13. > :13:18.allow Scotland to be independent, if it is a geographical share of

:13:18. > :13:22.gas and oil, Shetland and Orkney have a big stake and that as well.

:13:22. > :13:27.We have some pretty good chips to play and those are the ones the

:13:27. > :13:32.people of the island should decide on. You mention the Crown Estates,

:13:32. > :13:38.that is an uncontentious issue. But if you start arguing about a share

:13:38. > :13:43.of Scotland's oil, that is dynamite. Yes. And Mr Salmond deploys that

:13:43. > :13:47.argument. I think that what we want to observe from the Northern Isles

:13:47. > :13:52.is that if it is a good enough argument in Edinburgh, it is a good

:13:52. > :13:58.one incur work -- work well. We plan to use that in the discussion

:13:58. > :14:08.that will take place in that aspect of independence. Tavish Scott. I do

:14:08. > :14:09.

:14:09. > :14:13.Now to the last of our special CDs looking at the council elections in

:14:14. > :14:18.May. We have looked at the beck for parties, but that is only part of

:14:18. > :14:21.the story. The introduction of proportional representation in

:14:21. > :14:26.local Government has led to a wider range of views being represented in

:14:26. > :14:31.council chambers around the land. Our correspondent has been talking

:14:31. > :14:34.to two councilors with contrasting perspectives. It begins to the

:14:34. > :14:40.Highlands, where not so long ago a bulk of cows was were not from a

:14:40. > :14:46.major party. -- a bulk of councillors were not

:14:46. > :14:56.from a major party. The Highlands. They'd spent part of

:14:56. > :15:00.

:15:00. > :15:05.Scotland with a distinct way of Highland Council, too, is

:15:05. > :15:10.distinctive. It serves the largest geographical area of any council in

:15:10. > :15:14.the UK. Together, with some of the most Knut -- some of the most

:15:14. > :15:20.remote communities anywhere on the British mainland. Perhaps then it

:15:20. > :15:24.is no wonder that local politics here has a distinctive dimension.

:15:25. > :15:28.In much of the Highlands and Islands, There is a long tradition

:15:28. > :15:32.of independent counsellors standing on a platform divorced from normal

:15:32. > :15:36.party politics. As a general rule, proportional representation in

:15:36. > :15:39.council elections as felt independence and smaller parties.

:15:39. > :15:43.But even the Highlands proportion representation has actually helps

:15:43. > :15:48.the political parties and played a part in reducing the role of the

:15:48. > :15:54.independence. Sandy Park is about to retire as a

:15:54. > :15:59.councillor after some 18 years. He rose to become convenor and sought

:15:59. > :16:03.independence grow from a majority to the biggest minority. I have had

:16:03. > :16:07.a tremendous working relationship with the Scottish Government, one

:16:07. > :16:12.of the reasons is that I have been an independent councillor. I have

:16:12. > :16:17.had confidential conversations with the major Scottish Government

:16:17. > :16:23.officials and, indeed, from the First Minister to John Swinney, as

:16:23. > :16:26.they would not confide if I was a political member. I think the

:16:26. > :16:30.Independent councillor has that Bowness. By proportional

:16:30. > :16:33.representation did not just lead to more councillors from the political

:16:33. > :16:38.parties in the Highlands, it also means that each council ward in

:16:38. > :16:44.Scotland now has several councillors. I think a big plus in

:16:44. > :16:48.the past was that you had a ward and you council. Nowadays we have a

:16:48. > :16:52.multi-member wards. For councils represents the whole of Nairn. In

:16:52. > :16:57.the past you had your own ward and that was you really looking after

:16:57. > :17:00.that word. I think people really appreciated having one councillor

:17:00. > :17:07.for one ward. I feel really strongly about that. I think we

:17:07. > :17:10.should return to one word for one council. Edinburgh may share a

:17:10. > :17:13.little of the Highlands rugged landscape, but the effect of

:17:13. > :17:19.proportional representation here was more conventional. It helps the

:17:19. > :17:23.smaller parties. Thanks to PR, the Greens have a voice now. The creams

:17:23. > :17:29.got there first seats on the council in 2007. This councillor is

:17:29. > :17:32.now an MSP, too. I think it has been very important. All of those

:17:32. > :17:37.people who want a green voice representing them finally have that

:17:37. > :17:41.choice. I think that boys has been an effective and active one.

:17:41. > :17:45.Certainly, we are very proud of her contribution in Edinburgh. We

:17:45. > :17:49.simply have to look at the number of motions to have tabled an the

:17:49. > :17:53.questions he asked, the scrutiny be have applied to the decisions they

:17:53. > :17:56.administration has taken, be an effective. When the numbers in the

:17:56. > :17:59.Council has finally balas, it is easier for every grit in the

:17:59. > :18:03.council to have at least some influence. Everyone's voice is

:18:03. > :18:07.important. There is more discussion within the groups, and you can

:18:07. > :18:11.arrive at positions of consensus when possible, and certainly, we

:18:11. > :18:19.vote for issues on their merits. They have voted with different

:18:19. > :18:23.parties on different issues. That is a healthy thing. In the

:18:23. > :18:28.Highlands, supporters of PR always argued that it could change the

:18:28. > :18:34.landscape of councils. Nobody would dispute that has happened, even if

:18:34. > :18:39.some, they believe, not all change has been for the better.

:18:39. > :18:43.Our correspondent, Jamie McIver. He is the lunchtime news.

:18:43. > :18:47.Thank you. Good afternoon. Scotland's Finance Secretary has

:18:47. > :18:50.said that UK Government plans to scrap national pay rates in

:18:50. > :18:54.discreet's budget would be disastrous. The Chancellor is

:18:54. > :18:57.expected to say that civil servants should have paid brought in line

:18:57. > :19:01.with private sector salaries in their regions. John Swinney claims

:19:01. > :19:05.it would be damaging for individuals, local economies and

:19:05. > :19:09.public expenditure in Scotland. The Scottish Conservatives have

:19:09. > :19:13.announced that they are starting a new campaign group to fight for the

:19:13. > :19:17.union. Conservative friends of the union will be watched by the party

:19:17. > :19:21.leader at the conference entrain at the end of the week. Ruth Davidson

:19:21. > :19:24.said that CFU would be a home for all Scots who want to stay in the

:19:24. > :19:30.unions. Scotland's Public Health Minister

:19:30. > :19:34.wants adverts for food which it is high in fat and salt to not be

:19:34. > :19:37.broadcast before the 9pm watershed. Michael Matheson has written to the

:19:37. > :19:42.Westminster Government to ask if they would support a ban across the

:19:42. > :19:46.UK. Ministers say, however, that the current rules for TV

:19:46. > :19:49.advertising are proportional and balanced. Mr Matson disagrees.

:19:49. > :19:54.Existing arrangements through of, are not working in the way through

:19:54. > :19:58.which they were intended. The best way to deal with this is to have a

:19:58. > :20:02.pre-watershed band so that these types of products cannot be

:20:02. > :20:05.advertised by a to 9pm. Game doing so, we can reduce the exposure that

:20:05. > :20:10.young people have to this type of young people have to this type of

:20:10. > :20:13.advertising. And now the weather. Are very much like yesterday, we

:20:14. > :20:17.are looking at a lot of dry and fine weather across the country. We

:20:17. > :20:21.are almost see wall-to-wall sunshine and it will stay that way

:20:21. > :20:25.for the rest of the day. The best of the sunshine will be across this

:20:25. > :20:30.north-east corner, but nearly everyone will see the sun. We will

:20:30. > :20:34.continue to see shivers across the northern isles. There will be high

:20:34. > :20:38.temperatures of around 11 degrees in this north-east corner. Quite a

:20:38. > :20:42.fresh north-westerly wind in the north, but later went inland.

:20:42. > :20:48.That is it for now, our next That is it for now, our next

:20:48. > :20:52.bulletin is at 6:50pm. Any moment, we will be discussing

:20:52. > :21:02.the big events coming up this week. First let's take a look back at the

:21:02. > :21:05.

:21:05. > :21:15.A new law introducing a minimum unit price for a call passed its

:21:15. > :21:16.

:21:16. > :21:19.first major parliamentary hurdle by 86 votes 2-0, Labour abstained.

:21:19. > :21:23.The Provost of Perth and Kinross was among those celebrating the new

:21:23. > :21:29.status it has as a city. The number of Scots out of work

:21:29. > :21:33.rose by 6,000 this month, taking the total to 234,000.

:21:33. > :21:38.The UK Government's First National Convention on youth unemployment

:21:38. > :21:43.took place in Dundee. The work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan

:21:44. > :21:48.Smith explained why it was needed. It is matching young people to the

:21:48. > :21:52.jobs that their experience and capabilities. If we do that, we

:21:52. > :21:57.will see the level of youth unemployment fall. David Gilroy was

:21:57. > :22:05.found guilty of killing his former lover. She disappeared on her way

:22:05. > :22:08.to work in the centre of Edinburgh in the 2010.

:22:09. > :22:15.This week, everyone will be keeping their eye on the breadbox on its

:22:15. > :22:20.way to the despatch box. -- cornet d'Or red box.

:22:20. > :22:25.And with any to look towards the budget is Lucy Adams from the

:22:25. > :22:30.Herald newspaper and in Edinburgh, the Telegraph's and Cochrane.

:22:30. > :22:34.We see Adams, all eyes on the budget? What can we expect? I think

:22:34. > :22:37.we know from some of the information that has been casually

:22:37. > :22:41.and leaked to newspapers that we are looking at a big argument about

:22:42. > :22:46.public sector pay in terms of variations across the country. As

:22:46. > :22:50.John Swinney said earlier, it is quite alarming in terms of the

:22:50. > :22:54.impact it could have, in terms of the divide we already have in the

:22:54. > :22:58.north and south of the country. We have also been falling over the

:22:58. > :23:05.past few weeks the row about whether the 50% rate of tax for

:23:05. > :23:08.those earning �150,000 or more will stay or cold. If it does go, what

:23:08. > :23:12.will feel at Dems get from that? Will they have their mansion tax,

:23:12. > :23:17.as Vince Cable talked about? Or will we have Nick Clegg's tycoon

:23:18. > :23:23.tax, of which we have seen almost no details whatsoever. Those are

:23:23. > :23:26.the king fairly unlikely. It is a good question, Alan Cochrane, what

:23:26. > :23:29.will the Liberal Democrats get out of this Budget, if anything? We see

:23:30. > :23:33.a whole range of measures being proposed quite clearly by the

:23:33. > :23:38.Conservatives. At the Lib Dems getting anything but the scraps

:23:38. > :23:42.from the table? The Liberal Democrats are apparently fairly

:23:42. > :23:47.relaxed of the 50p then, provided it gets them a big sledgehammer to

:23:47. > :23:51.whack the rich on tax avoidance. I think on the business of public

:23:52. > :23:56.sector pay differentials throughout the UK, they are probably going to

:23:56. > :24:01.go along with that as well. It is not about punishing civil servants

:24:01. > :24:06.in Scotland or the North of England, it is about helping private

:24:06. > :24:09.employers to recruit people. Currently, just in my industry, the

:24:10. > :24:14.newspaper industry, I know lots of young reporters in Scotland have

:24:14. > :24:18.gone to work for the Government as press officers, civil servant press

:24:18. > :24:22.officers. He would not go and be a press officer for the excitement,

:24:22. > :24:25.as you go for the extra money. That is what is happening, you are

:24:25. > :24:30.getting more working in St Andrew's House as a press officer and you

:24:30. > :24:34.getting working for the Herald. That is just my industry, that is

:24:34. > :24:38.happening all over British industry. The private sector cannot complete

:24:38. > :24:43.with public's -- cannot compete with public sector pay. You can

:24:43. > :24:48.make that argument, C Adams, but it will not necessarily play with a

:24:48. > :24:51.Scotland that has a very high level of public sector employment.

:24:51. > :24:54.Absolutely, and it can only exacerbate the difference is there

:24:54. > :24:58.already are in terms of the South East and places like Scotland. I

:24:59. > :25:03.feel as well that this is a massive distraction. In a week where he

:25:03. > :25:09.will find it difficult to explain the lack of growth, the huge levels

:25:09. > :25:13.of debt that the country is still in. And the fact that he has

:25:13. > :25:17.nothing exciting to throw out there. This seems to me like a massive

:25:17. > :25:21.distraction. He knows there will be a huge row about this for the rest

:25:21. > :25:24.of the week, and Scotland will be extraordinarily unhappy. We had a

:25:24. > :25:29.huge number of people working within the public sector who will

:25:29. > :25:33.not take this lying down. problem, Alan Cochrane, as the

:25:33. > :25:36.Government tries to pursue the so- called respected gender, as it

:25:37. > :25:41.tries to connect with Scott on the head of an independence referendum,

:25:41. > :25:50.this sort of measure would appear to be going up the drawbridge

:25:50. > :25:54.around the south-east of England? That is bladders. It is not a

:25:54. > :25:58.protecting London or the south-east, it is about helping, Lucy talks

:25:58. > :26:01.about growth quite rightly, it is about helping growth in the private

:26:01. > :26:05.sector and stimulating growth in the private sector by getting

:26:05. > :26:09.people into work in the private sector. The public sector is big in

:26:09. > :26:13.Scotland and of course Scotland will be unhappy. Scotland tends to

:26:13. > :26:18.be unhappy about the public sector about everything. But this is a

:26:18. > :26:22.positive move. It is about helping kids work in the private sector and

:26:22. > :26:26.not the public sector. Lucy Adams, there is growing concern about

:26:26. > :26:31.unemployment. The rate rises and rises. The Chancellor is under

:26:32. > :26:35.pressure to do something. To try and stimulate growth. And by

:26:35. > :26:40.stimulating growth complicating a few jobs. What options are open to

:26:40. > :26:45.head? Are there any easy option scheme at because of the lack of

:26:45. > :26:50.growth, there does not seem to be any easy options. Unemployment is

:26:50. > :26:54.at the 16 year high. What we have seen are some very side issues,

:26:54. > :26:57.some very contentious things about people working for free in

:26:57. > :27:01.supermarkets and people try to build up work experience without

:27:01. > :27:06.getting paid whatsoever. The UK Government has talked about plants

:27:06. > :27:10.that they have for John people in investment, to put into young

:27:10. > :27:15.people, but all that seems very paltry in contrast to the lack of

:27:15. > :27:19.jobs. And the lack of aspirations as well for young people coming out

:27:19. > :27:23.of any kind of education, whether it is university or otherwise, as

:27:23. > :27:28.we have an enormous amount of examples of people who are very

:27:28. > :27:32.well educated but simply cannot find a job. Therein lies the

:27:32. > :27:36.challenge, Alan Cochrane, to create jobs. It is a difficult thing for

:27:36. > :27:40.any Government to do. Government cannot create jobs, they

:27:40. > :27:43.can only create the conditions for jobs. What they're trying to do is

:27:43. > :27:48.create conditions for kids to go into the private sector and get

:27:49. > :27:53.jobs. Was he is right, there is a huge problem with youth

:27:53. > :27:57.unemployment. She has also read, many educated people are coming out

:27:57. > :28:04.of university and cannot get a job. But Abbey educated in things that

:28:04. > :28:08.employers want them to be educated in? -- but are to be educated. Lucy

:28:08. > :28:12.is absolutely right, the pay differential thing will not be the

:28:12. > :28:15.main thing in the Budget, that is probably going to be a long weeks

:28:15. > :28:20.time. But it will not affect what the workers in the public sector in

:28:20. > :28:27.Scotland. It will not affect teachers or nurses, in both of

:28:27. > :28:31.those cases, the wage rates are set in Scotland. The horse-trading that

:28:31. > :28:34.has been going on his the first time that we have seen this in

:28:34. > :28:38.public, were the two sides of the Cabinet are hard to do with one

:28:38. > :28:41.another in public about how the am going to do a deal with one another.

:28:41. > :28:44.We have never seen this before because we have never had a

:28:44. > :28:48.coalition Government. It is fascinating, because in the past,

:28:48. > :28:52.when Gordon Brown was Chancellor, he told the Cabinet on the morning

:28:52. > :28:57.of the Budget what was in it, he did not tell them before. Margaret

:28:57. > :29:02.Thatcher and Geoffrey Howe did not tell the Cabinet because they

:29:02. > :29:06.thought they would like it. But now we have a rough idea what the two

:29:06. > :29:13.sides fought and died rough idea what people get. Lucy Adams, it is

:29:13. > :29:16.an extraordinary lead-up to this. We have had so many weeks, be have

:29:17. > :29:21.had to Vince Cable's letter criticising the lack of vision,