:00:04. > :00:08.station in the capital. Gary Glitter was brought out of his
:00:08. > :00:12.home in central London and taken into custody early this morning. He
:00:12. > :00:20.was arrested as part of Operation Yewtree, off the police
:00:20. > :00:27.investigation into the stream of allegations Jimmy Savile and others.
:00:27. > :00:32.A former pop star, has already served position -- prison sentences
:00:32. > :00:36.for a child offences in Britain and Vietnam. His name has also been
:00:36. > :00:41.mentioned in connection with Jimmy Savile. Lord Patten has told a
:00:41. > :00:47.newspaper that the scandal as but the BBC's reputation on the line.
:00:47. > :00:52.The corporation was dedicated to finding out that truth. Labour says
:00:52. > :00:57.the investigation set up by the BBC are not enough. Her we need one
:00:57. > :01:02.overarching enquiry. It should be independent because there are big
:01:02. > :01:10.lessons to be learned here, not just for the BBC, although the
:01:10. > :01:15.epicentre was that the BBC, but elsewhere. The police in --
:01:15. > :01:20.investigation has produced over 300 alleged victims. In the days ahead
:01:20. > :01:24.police are expected to make several more arrests.
:01:24. > :01:29.An independent think-tank is suggesting that a crackdown on gang
:01:29. > :01:33.culture if in a response to last year's riots may have backfired.
:01:33. > :01:38.The Centre for Social Justice claims that in some cases arrests
:01:38. > :01:40.led to more violence. It calls on the authorities to prevent
:01:40. > :01:45.youngsters joining gangs in the first place.
:01:45. > :01:48.A BBC investigation has found some care homes in England that had been
:01:48. > :01:58.awarded a five star ratings by independent companies are failing
:01:58. > :02:06.
:02:06. > :02:10.to meet the essential requirements. In the United States, president
:02:10. > :02:14.Obama has held a conference call with emergency chutes to print --
:02:14. > :02:19.prepare for one of the biggest arms to hit the eastern seaboard for
:02:19. > :02:22.many years. Hurricane Sandy is that already 1000 kilometres wide and
:02:22. > :02:32.after lunch all it is likely to collide with a winter storm from
:02:32. > :02:32.
:02:32. > :02:38.the West. State of emergency is in place across most of the East Coast.
:02:38. > :02:46.That is all the news for now. There will be more news on BBC One at
:02:46. > :02:50.five past sex. -- 5 Pass six.
:02:50. > :02:54.Good afternoon. Scottish Ministers want more powers to deal with
:02:54. > :02:59.drink-driving. The SNP Government is to cut the limit, but also wants
:02:59. > :03:04.to be able to conduct random testing and bring in tougher
:03:04. > :03:08.measures for young drivers. It is now planning to cut the limit
:03:09. > :03:14.from 80 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood if down to
:03:14. > :03:17.50 milligrams. But SNP Ministers now say that has not gone far
:03:17. > :03:21.enough. The Scottish Justice Secretary has asked Westminster for
:03:21. > :03:24.a further responsibilities which would allow police to carry out
:03:25. > :03:29.random breath testing as well as being able to make penalties for
:03:29. > :03:34.the offence even tougher. And Scottish Ministers also won powers
:03:34. > :03:44.to cut their drink-drive limit for or even further fir Newt a
:03:44. > :03:48.qualified drivers. -- or a newly qualified.
:03:48. > :03:51.The drink-drive limit will be staying as it is an England wells
:03:51. > :03:58.north of the border Scottish Ministers say more action is needed
:03:58. > :04:03.to tackle the problem. The Chief Secretary to the tragedy
:04:03. > :04:08.-- Treasury, Danny Alexander, says the First Minister Alex Salmond as
:04:08. > :04:13.more questions to answer about his conduct over legal advice and
:04:13. > :04:17.Scotland's membership of the European Union. Why was it that he
:04:17. > :04:21.allowed thousands of pounds of taxpayers' money was invested in
:04:21. > :04:28.preparing a court case to prevent him releasing legal advice that
:04:28. > :04:31.turned out do not exist on Scotland's EU membership. There are
:04:31. > :04:35.rules about public finance in this country which means you should not
:04:35. > :04:38.waste taxpayers' money. This is one of the most extraordinary episodes
:04:38. > :04:44.of the most extraordinary episodes we have seen so far. If time for
:04:44. > :04:51.the weather: After a bright start to the weekend yesterday, we are
:04:51. > :04:59.ending on Saddam not. Fairly breezy as well. -- on a damp
:04:59. > :05:05.note. Temperature Wise, around nine or ten degrees in the south-west.
:05:05. > :05:08.Into the rest of the evening, the rain clears away and showers
:05:08. > :05:18.continue in the north-west. Tonight it should be frost-free. That is
:05:18. > :05:25.
:05:25. > :05:29.the forecast for now. It is back to The NHS needs to make millions of
:05:29. > :05:34.pounds of savings. Audit Scotland says the health service needs to
:05:34. > :05:38.focus on long-term planning, and the way its finances are organised
:05:38. > :05:43.makes that difficult. After years of growth the health
:05:43. > :05:49.service is facing a leaner times. The NHS must save �270 million this
:05:49. > :05:56.year, nearly 50 million less than last year it still challenging. It
:05:57. > :06:00.is a sign NHS Scotland is not in a half a % rise in energy prices cost
:06:00. > :06:06.�2 million for the largest Health Board, Greater Glasgow and Clyde.
:06:06. > :06:11.Even so, Audit Scotland van or Health Board broke even in the
:06:11. > :06:15.financial year 2011-12. But the report sheds light on how it that
:06:15. > :06:21.was done and says the focus on balancing the books every year may
:06:21. > :06:26.skew priorities. The risk for the short term is that changes are
:06:26. > :06:31.really needed to meet the challenges available in the future
:06:31. > :06:35.and the demographic changes we know are coming can be squeezed out. The
:06:35. > :06:40.annual focus can make the changes harder. We know that in order to
:06:40. > :06:44.break even each year, some wards were having to move money across
:06:44. > :06:48.the system. Others were relying on savings and a handful relied on
:06:48. > :06:52.extra support from the Scottish Government. We think it would
:06:52. > :06:54.increase transparency that was made more apparent in the accounts.
:06:54. > :06:59.Scottish health boards say they will meet their targets this year
:06:59. > :07:03.but said that may become harder to achieve. This expert in public
:07:03. > :07:09.finance degrees and highlights a backlog in building and equipment
:07:09. > :07:16.maintenance that is built up to a estimated billions of pounds.
:07:16. > :07:19.dangers of efficiency savings are the huge amount of bad luck
:07:19. > :07:23.expenditure on maintenance. There are huge budgetary pressures that
:07:23. > :07:27.will not go away. The short-term pressures are there and exist so
:07:27. > :07:33.you can say it is a nice idea over the long term but the pressures on
:07:33. > :07:39.the health boards are on the short term. At Holyrood the sometimes to
:07:39. > :07:44.polarised debate about health spending... The health budget is
:07:44. > :07:47.predicted to decline in real terms for the next three years at the
:07:47. > :07:54.Scottish Government maintains the Budget is going up and that
:07:54. > :08:00.investments are taking place to help patient care. It says there is
:08:00. > :08:06.currently a realistic increase in spending. If you spend any time
:08:06. > :08:13.with nurses, with the ambulance service, with patients themselves,
:08:13. > :08:17.you will hear stories of the NHS scribbling. -- Sproat -- struggling.
:08:17. > :08:21.The NHS staff do a great job but they cannot keep doing it with
:08:22. > :08:26.fewer resources and increased demand. If you look at the number
:08:26. > :08:30.of people treated by the NHS every year, if you look at the waiting
:08:30. > :08:34.times for performance, the improved treatments, the number of
:08:34. > :08:39.operations we are doing, all of that is performing far better than
:08:40. > :08:44.it has ever done, so to say that the National Health Service in any
:08:44. > :08:48.way is in any kind of crisis is total nonsense. There are
:08:48. > :08:52.challenges that we are rising to the challenges. All parties
:08:52. > :08:58.recognise times are tough. The question is how best to cope and
:08:58. > :09:03.the answer really matters. End your health spending of �11.5 billion --
:09:03. > :09:07.annual health spending, is about a third of the entire Scottish budget.
:09:07. > :09:11.With me is Theresa Fyffe, the Scottish director of the Royal
:09:11. > :09:17.College of Nursing, and Ian Mullen, the former chair of NHS Forth
:09:17. > :09:20.Valley. Theresa Fyffe, two characterisations we heard there
:09:20. > :09:24.from the Scottish Government and the Labour Party. One saying there
:09:24. > :09:29.is no crisis, another saying this is an alarm call. What you think?
:09:29. > :09:32.The first thing we need to do is acknowledge that the staff, doctors,
:09:33. > :09:37.nurses, managers who are delivering good health outcomes for patients,
:09:37. > :09:43.but they're doing that against a backdrop of increasing financial
:09:43. > :09:50.restraints and what the NHS board are doing to balance the books are
:09:50. > :09:55.not sustainable. The what way? Things like keeping a vacancy open
:09:55. > :09:59.for a number of months, or trying to reduce the workforce. Nurses may
:09:59. > :10:03.be having to continue to provide the same service with less staff
:10:03. > :10:07.and less resources. That cannot continue because that has an impact
:10:07. > :10:12.on the well-being and stress of those staff. And this is a result
:10:12. > :10:15.of the way that the budgets are run on an annual basis, that there is
:10:15. > :10:18.not enough thought to the long term? When you are running annually
:10:18. > :10:22.and you have a savings target to meet you have to find those savings
:10:22. > :10:26.and they tend to be on a short-term basis. What the hell sports are
:10:26. > :10:30.struggling to do, there's some have done that, is fined and release the
:10:30. > :10:34.money to be able to do a significance service redesigned
:10:34. > :10:38.that might bring in the savings they require, so short term, it
:10:38. > :10:41.does not allow that approach to happen. Ian Mullen, you have done
:10:41. > :10:47.it. You have been in charge of his money and had to wrestle with these
:10:47. > :10:52.problems. Is it difficult? course, but I think auditors always
:10:52. > :10:56.look at a very small part of any system and examine it, and that is
:10:56. > :11:00.what Audit Scotland have done in this particular case. They have
:11:00. > :11:02.looked at the financial performance of the NHS and they have not looked
:11:03. > :11:06.at the big picture because that was not their role here, and what they
:11:06. > :11:10.have said is that three of the health board's required additional
:11:10. > :11:14.financial support, which is repayable and that financial
:11:14. > :11:18.support was based on some quite specific problems for those three
:11:18. > :11:25.boards. But they were unhappy people did not know about that.
:11:25. > :11:28.They have to uncover it, basically. I think... I think anyone reading
:11:28. > :11:32.the annual accounts of those three health boards would see that they
:11:32. > :11:36.had support. What they would not have seen was the detail of that
:11:36. > :11:40.and that is precisely what Audit Scotland have done. But is also
:11:40. > :11:48.important to remember that there were other -- and nine other votes
:11:48. > :11:55.which produced services, so overall, NHS Scotland break even. -- nine
:11:55. > :12:00.other boards. In doing that it is also important to realise that in
:12:00. > :12:03.achieving that breaking point, the health service has continued to
:12:03. > :12:09.provide a very high quality of service. When I was appointed ten
:12:09. > :12:14.years ago as an NHS chair, people were waiting two-and-a-half years
:12:14. > :12:18.for hip replacements, for example. Now it is nine weeks, and that is
:12:18. > :12:23.still being achieved under this financial regime. Sure, but do you,
:12:23. > :12:27.for Theresa Fyffe, think we have yet had an honest debate about how
:12:27. > :12:31.we're going to continue to afford this level of care? I do not think
:12:31. > :12:34.so. I understand what Ian is saying which is why I said at the
:12:34. > :12:39.beginning that the performance of the NHS in Scotland has been very
:12:39. > :12:43.good. But the public has to understand we will have financial
:12:43. > :12:46.constraints that will increase and if we're not able to demonstrate
:12:46. > :12:49.where the shift of funding in the system is, that transparency about
:12:49. > :12:53.where money is being used, where it goes, what is being spent on in
:12:53. > :12:59.health, the public will not understand that there is actually
:12:59. > :13:04.choice and perhaps the toughest choices in the future. By u talking
:13:04. > :13:08.about -- are you talking about big ticket items, flagship policies?
:13:08. > :13:13.believe so. The public at the moment might say, for example,
:13:13. > :13:19.there has been the recent debate about three prescriptions, whether
:13:19. > :13:27.we can have for theirs. You are saying we cannot? I am not saying
:13:27. > :13:29.so at all. -- about whether we can afford those. We are concerned that
:13:29. > :13:33.the efficiency and productivity that can be delivered in the health
:13:33. > :13:37.service, already much has been done about that, but when you try, for
:13:37. > :13:43.example, to find funding for a new innovation, for example, in the
:13:43. > :13:51.Western Isles I have brought in the use of digital pence. -- has a 35 %
:13:51. > :13:57.productivity. In a nutshell. They give the ability to electronically
:13:57. > :14:02.collect data. The communities have nurses that are able to collect
:14:02. > :14:06.that data. We cannot get the funding for that and we do not know
:14:06. > :14:13.why it is not available because it did not transparent. Ian, is the
:14:13. > :14:20.problem not a tussle between the short and long term? I do not
:14:20. > :14:23.except to research's point that the public do not face -- understand
:14:23. > :14:28.financial restraint. Perhaps they do not understand that it means
:14:28. > :14:33.that at some point something has to give? Actually, I bear the scars of
:14:33. > :14:37.dozens of public meetings and when we have gone and discussed the
:14:37. > :14:42.services we were going to provide and how we wanted to change, and it
:14:42. > :14:47.may be simple to have the discussion with the public about
:14:47. > :14:52.changing things like reducing tattoo removal and so forth, but
:14:52. > :14:56.when you start to talk about reducing expensive services such as
:14:56. > :15:00.infertility, there was a real problem, so I am all for being as
:15:00. > :15:03.open as possible to the public. I think that is very important that I
:15:03. > :15:07.do go back to the fact that the health service is still currently
:15:07. > :15:11.providing a range of high quality services, even in the current
:15:11. > :15:19.financial situation. I think you both agree on at any weight. Thank
:15:19. > :15:23.you Bose very much indeed. Music, according to one of
:15:23. > :15:28.Scotland's most talented performers, is like daily medicine. Dame Evelyn
:15:28. > :15:33.Glennie made her name as a virtuoso percussionist, a superb achievement
:15:33. > :15:37.for anyone, all the more remarkable considering she is profoundly deaf.
:15:37. > :15:43.Now after her stunning role in the opening ceremony at the London
:15:43. > :15:44.Olympics, she is performing a new show in Glasgow and banging the
:15:45. > :15:50.drum for musical education in schools.
:15:50. > :15:56.On the threshold a factory in her native North East, Evelyn Glenlee
:15:56. > :16:00.delights the audience. -- Dame Evelyn Glennie. These amazing
:16:00. > :16:05.talent was encouraged by supportive teachers at school in Aberdeenshire
:16:05. > :16:08.and that London Royal Academy of Music. She says she feels music as
:16:08. > :16:13.vibrations in the air and her deafness does not really affect her
:16:13. > :16:23.life very much. Her contribution to the UK music scene was recognised
:16:23. > :16:27.
:16:27. > :16:32.in this performance at the London Dame Evelyn Glennie is in Glasgow
:16:32. > :16:39.this weekend performing at the Tramway with dancers. But would her
:16:39. > :16:41.career have flourished in today's education system? A recent study of
:16:42. > :16:45.5,000 pupils by Strathclyde University found that not one with
:16:45. > :16:50.a physical disability was being taught how to play a musical
:16:50. > :16:53.instrument. Three at a four councils also charge for music
:16:53. > :16:58.lessons and a report claims deprived children are missing out
:16:58. > :17:03.on the chance to become the next Dame Evelyn Glennie.
:17:03. > :17:06.I caught up with Dame Evelyn Glennie yesterday and she began by
:17:06. > :17:11.explaining to me how vital her own education was to her musical
:17:11. > :17:18.development. People just sang and played whatever instruments
:17:18. > :17:23.happened to be in the House. We were not looking for the next X
:17:23. > :17:27.Factor winner or something. Music was an extension to a family
:17:27. > :17:35.environment. Families are very fragmented nowadays and it is hard
:17:35. > :17:40.to get that seamless line between a family life and education. And it
:17:40. > :17:45.really was the case where families knew what was going on in schools
:17:45. > :17:51.and I really felt that, and the staff were able to feed the
:17:51. > :17:57.information and in a way to almost be able to give a more bespoke
:17:57. > :18:02.education for individuals. Now it is very hard to do that when you
:18:02. > :18:06.have the mother here and the father there and goodness knows, the
:18:06. > :18:09.fragmented structure. It is far more difficult to do that. So it is
:18:09. > :18:14.a challenge for the current education system to provide the
:18:14. > :18:17.kind of support that you had in a different environment? I think that
:18:17. > :18:21.is true, coupled with the fact that we have just exploded with
:18:21. > :18:25.technology and so on and although there is more communication that
:18:25. > :18:30.happens, we can all communicate with each other far more quickly
:18:30. > :18:33.and more easily than actually ever before, and in a way we are all
:18:33. > :18:37.experiencing music more than we have ever done before, but
:18:37. > :18:44.everything is in a much more isolated way. And in a way, there
:18:44. > :18:49.is also this feeling of we expect something to happen. That has done
:18:49. > :18:53.something to us. I feel we have lost the journey of being able to
:18:53. > :18:59.achieve something. And I feel this is something that is affecting our
:18:59. > :19:04.education system, the way that the teachers interact with pupils. It
:19:04. > :19:08.is really listening and finding out what is it that makes that
:19:08. > :19:14.individual tick. So you would say you got good support at school but
:19:14. > :19:18.I suppose it is suffering now due to cuts. How important you think it
:19:18. > :19:24.is to make sure that all children at are included when it comes to
:19:24. > :19:29.the arts in school? It is vital. For me there is no debate on this.
:19:29. > :19:33.It is absolutely crucial. The one thing about Alan academy, the
:19:33. > :19:37.school are Renter as a secondary school, was that it was a former
:19:37. > :19:42.integrated school. You had hearing impaired people, sight impaired
:19:42. > :19:47.people, people with all sorts of challenges. And the motto, as it
:19:47. > :19:52.were, are the headmaster, and all of the staff menders -- members,
:19:52. > :19:55.was that every pupil belonged to every single department of that
:19:55. > :20:00.school and I remember several youngsters being part of the
:20:00. > :20:06.musical department, including me, and I was accepted like any other
:20:06. > :20:12.child of a hat. And that psychologically was so important,
:20:12. > :20:20.and we see this time and time again. If we take something like Japanese
:20:20. > :20:24.music and we see the power of that, with, for example, adults who have
:20:24. > :20:28.experienced brain damage or are the challenges in their lives, there is
:20:28. > :20:31.no compromise musically. This is something that, for example,
:20:31. > :20:35.Strathclyde University has really explored, and is happening up and
:20:35. > :20:39.down the country. Do not leave it too late for something to happen.
:20:39. > :20:43.We need to feed the youngsters immediately and I truly mean
:20:43. > :20:47.immediately. But we also need to support the families as well, to
:20:47. > :20:57.give the families that understanding of why music is so
:20:57. > :21:03.
:21:03. > :21:10.important and the participation is I would also like to talk about you
:21:10. > :21:15.or involvement in the Olympics? wanted to depict the industrial
:21:15. > :21:19.revolution. I was very happy an honour to be involved with this.
:21:19. > :21:23.That was a terrific example of teamwork and by that I mean
:21:23. > :21:28.teamwork from the whole technical crew working behind the scenes. But
:21:28. > :21:33.also the fact that 99% of the people we saw perform off, and
:21:33. > :21:39.certainly drumming in my part, where volunteers. People who had
:21:39. > :21:44.never picked up a pair of drumsticks before. I cannot tell
:21:44. > :21:49.you the impact that that has had on people. In a way we are seeing this
:21:49. > :21:53.with the wonderful work that Gareth Malone is doing with the workplace
:21:53. > :21:59.choirs and different environments. We are seeing the power of music in
:21:59. > :22:05.that kind of way. What this country, the British Isles has done, is
:22:05. > :22:12.really, we have got such richness and our culture, traditional
:22:12. > :22:17.culture, music and dance and art and so on, we have been able to do
:22:17. > :22:21.-- in the past to hold on to that. We have made it part of our lives
:22:21. > :22:28.and we are losing that now because it has not been fed into our
:22:29. > :22:36.schools if, and that has had a big name -- big impact. We are finding
:22:36. > :22:42.foreign students coming into our music institutions. We do not have
:22:42. > :22:46.enough home-grown talent. In terms of the Olympics, some people talked
:22:46. > :22:52.about it bringing the United Kingdom together. Can I ask your
:22:52. > :22:56.opinion on whether you are British a Scottish? What do you think as we
:22:56. > :23:01.approach the referendum and a couple of years' time? I am very
:23:01. > :23:06.proud to be British, very proud to be Scottish and very proud to be
:23:06. > :23:11.European. I would like to hold on to the Britishness. If I think we
:23:11. > :23:17.have a wonderful culture that we all share together, we really do.
:23:17. > :23:22.As a musician, I am seeing that we are really sharing our wonderful
:23:22. > :23:27.cultures, are Welsh culture, R Irish culture, English culture,
:23:27. > :23:32.Scottish culture - bringing that in a musical way that is very special
:23:32. > :23:36.that has influenced me and my profession. I do not want to lose
:23:36. > :23:39.any of that. I do not want to lose the fact that I am a British person
:23:39. > :23:44.and very proud of that. Dame Evelyn Glennie.
:23:45. > :23:52.It is that time of the day when we take time to analyse the top
:23:52. > :23:56.stories coming up. And this may I am joined by two
:23:56. > :24:00.members of the newly farmed referendum committee at Holyrood.
:24:00. > :24:04.The former Conservative leader, Annabel Goldie, and for the SNP,
:24:04. > :24:09.Stuart Maxwell. Stewart Maxwell, Dame Evelyn
:24:09. > :24:13.Glennie will not be voting for you. She lives in England, but it
:24:13. > :24:18.appears she would not be voting yes what she said was that we should
:24:18. > :24:22.hang on to what we have been called the Social Union, the cultural
:24:22. > :24:27.aspects the unite the people of these isles. If I think there are
:24:27. > :24:33.many things on the cultural side, including music, that we share,
:24:33. > :24:37.that we carry on. What we're talking about here is whether we
:24:37. > :24:41.carry on the political union. We can carry on the social aspects are
:24:41. > :24:45.valued by the people of these islands, but in terms of political
:24:45. > :24:51.decision-making, we should bring about an independent Scotland.
:24:51. > :24:55.you will carry on to try and win her over? Annabel Goldie, what do
:24:55. > :25:04.you think what Dame Evelyn Glennie said there. I thought it was a
:25:04. > :25:10.refreshing reflection on a different part of culture. A
:25:10. > :25:14.everything that is meaningful to her in her life, she sees is being
:25:14. > :25:20.completed by being part of a United Kingdom structure. We're supposed
:25:20. > :25:28.to be talking about what is coming up this week. It will involve
:25:28. > :25:33.touching on what has happened on -- already. Alex Salmond caught out on
:25:33. > :25:37.EU legal advice says the Independent on Scotland --
:25:37. > :25:43.Independent on Sunday. The paper is suggesting that there was some
:25:43. > :25:48.legal advice. It was not a blank sheet of paper, that Alex Salmond
:25:48. > :25:53.was told that negotiations would be required on EU membership. What is
:25:54. > :25:59.the truth of this? There has been a lot of a calling this week and I
:25:59. > :26:03.think that is unfortunate. It does not help anyone understand what are
:26:03. > :26:07.complicated and important decisions they have to make. What the truth
:26:07. > :26:11.is I think is clear - all Government publications and the
:26:11. > :26:19.First Minister mention that in the interview that started this off,
:26:19. > :26:24.they go through the local -- proper process. No specific legal advice
:26:24. > :26:28.was sought on the very specific question of EU membership because
:26:28. > :26:32.governments cannot publish that kind of information. The you except
:26:32. > :26:36.that at the very least the impression was given for many
:26:36. > :26:46.months that the Scottish Government had legal advice, not least up --
:26:46. > :26:50.because on this programme he said, yes, when he was asked? There is
:26:51. > :26:54.another 27 words beyond that which was missed out. But the point was a
:26:54. > :26:59.whole debate over this year has proceeded on the basis that there
:26:59. > :27:03.was some legal advice. It turns out that Nicola Sturgeon all the needs
:27:03. > :27:07.as a lord advocate for his position as she can tell us there is no
:27:07. > :27:12.legal advice. Why did she not do that months ago? We had the
:27:12. > :27:16.Edinburgh agreement in place. The point is that before you have the
:27:16. > :27:21.process laid down, agreed by both governments, so we know precisely
:27:21. > :27:25.what the process will be leading to independence, a legally binding
:27:25. > :27:29.arrangement, then we can see the context into which the rest of the
:27:29. > :27:36.UK an independent Scotland would then move forward, you cannot get
:27:36. > :27:41.legal advice and that question. think his solution to the Edinburgh
:27:41. > :27:48.agreement as a red herring. If it was that important why did the SNP
:27:48. > :27:52.delay publishing their findings of the consultation? Alex Salmond
:27:52. > :27:58.created an impression in the minds of the public they he had legal
:27:58. > :28:03.advice about Scotland's status as an independent country in the EU.
:28:03. > :28:09.He must have known that impression was helpful to has cause. What he
:28:09. > :28:13.did not do was disabuse the public of all we now know what to be
:28:13. > :28:22.erroneous perception of that there was a vice. He affirmed the
:28:22. > :28:32.perception there was advice with this decision to go to the quarter
:28:32. > :28:34.
:28:34. > :28:40.of --... Court of Session. M must have been the most expensive fake
:28:40. > :28:44.Levi in history. The Ministerial Code is clear - you can never
:28:44. > :28:52.confirm or deny the existence of legal advice. All governments of
:28:52. > :28:56.all colours have done exactly the same thing. The Edinburgh agreement
:28:56. > :29:01.was in place and that was a point at which you could seek the
:29:01. > :29:09.specific legal advice. She then we asked the officers were there are
:29:09. > :29:13.none of she had come as an -- or not whether she had permission to
:29:13. > :29:18.publish that information. With respect, that is rubbish. The
:29:18. > :29:21.Edinburgh agreement is nothing more than a stage and a process. From
:29:21. > :29:26.May of last year we knew we would have a referendum. If your
:29:26. > :29:29.Government was in a position to make that call. The timing was
:29:29. > :29:33.somewhat in that what we knew we were going to have it. Now whatever
:29:33. > :29:36.happens in between on the discussions of having the vote is a
:29:36. > :29:42.matter of profound interest to their Scottish people, including
:29:42. > :29:50.issues on something as important as membership of a EU, have you got
:29:50. > :29:53.legal advice on? If let's speak on Trident. Annabel Goldie, should in
:29:53. > :30:00.the UK Government set down with the Scottish Government and thrash out
:30:00. > :30:03.how they would cope of Scotland where independent? I think if you
:30:03. > :30:10.are going to select that aspect then you would have to suggest that
:30:10. > :30:13.the UK Government should expected to set down and thrash out every
:30:13. > :30:19.consequence on a lot of independence will stop shouldn't
:30:19. > :30:25.it? I don't agree with that. There is no room for complacency but I
:30:25. > :30:30.don't think there was support for independence. Let the Scottish
:30:30. > :30:35.people have their say and once they have had their say respond to that.
:30:35. > :30:40.Stewart Maxwell, the problem is that people do not know what it
:30:40. > :30:45.will look like, an independent Scotland off in terms of Trident?
:30:45. > :30:49.The SNP and Government have been clear on our position of nuclear
:30:49. > :30:54.weapons. That is crystal-clear. The Scottish Government has made it
:30:54. > :30:58.clear if there next year we will have a white paper which will
:30:58. > :31:04.publish all of the detail laying out the prospect is that we will
:31:04. > :31:07.fall to. Giving the detail on many of these questions a year in
:31:07. > :31:13.advance of the votes. That is the time when many of the questions
:31:13. > :31:18.will be answered. I think it is important we now move on to the
:31:18. > :31:25.proper debate about the substance of these issues and raise their
:31:25. > :31:32.game of opposition politicians on the name-calling and Spears.
:31:32. > :31:38.sentence will stop the SNP leadership as the SNP membership to