:00:38. > :00:41.Morning folks. Welcome to the Sunday Politics. The gloves are off,
:00:41. > :00:44.it's all guns blazing as the parties fight it out over Chris
:00:44. > :00:46.Huhne's vacant seat. Eastleigh is turning into one of these British
:00:46. > :00:49.by-election humdingers. We'll be talking to the man leading the
:00:49. > :00:52.Conservative campaign in our top story.
:00:52. > :00:55.Ed Miliband wants to introduce a Mansion Tax. He also wants to
:00:55. > :00:59.reintroduce the 10p tax rate. Policies at last I hear you say!
:00:59. > :01:04.But are they any good? We ask the man who helped Ed get the top job,
:01:04. > :01:08.Shadow Justice Secretary Sadiq Khan. That's the Sunday Interview.
:01:08. > :01:18.David Cameron's off to India tonight. A space-age military power
:01:18. > :01:21.to which Britain still gives aid. But not for much longer. In times
:01:21. > :01:24.of austerity, should we be doling out more aid than ever? And does it
:01:24. > :01:27.really work anyway? The two sides go head to head.
:01:27. > :01:30.And on Sunday Politics Scotland. As Glasgow hosts the first screening
:01:30. > :01:40.of Cloud Atlas, where now for the Scottish film industry - cheap
:01:40. > :01:40.
:01:40. > :33:50.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1930 seconds
:33:50. > :33:57.location backdrop or haven for We should be transparent and tackle
:33:57. > :34:03.corruption. If we do not know, we are not transparent. The British
:34:03. > :34:11.government suspended aid to Uganda because of corruption. But we also
:34:11. > :34:17.deliver aid in tough places, which are important for British interests
:34:17. > :34:23.like Somalia and Afghanistan. It is a very good and cost effective way.
:34:23. > :34:29.Bill Gates says cutting aid will do irreparable damage it to the global
:34:29. > :34:36.economy, what do you say? It is more likely to do harm to people in
:34:36. > :34:44.the aid industry. The best this is being carried on regardless of how
:34:44. > :34:50.well it does. They are routinely dishonest about how much aid fails.
:34:50. > :34:55.People resent it programmes when a those aid programmes go into the
:34:55. > :35:05.pockets of local officials. Has any country or economy B drugs formed
:35:05. > :35:09.
:35:09. > :35:14.by aid? -- been transformed. In Arthur, I stood in a market where
:35:14. > :35:19.there were children dying all those years ago, and now it is a thriving
:35:19. > :35:26.market. There are roads, mobile phones, health clinics. Growth
:35:26. > :35:31.comes from private sector investment. Other Chinese building
:35:31. > :35:37.these roads? Some of them, and some of them are being built by the
:35:37. > :35:44.European Union. The tragedy of Jonathan's position is just that we
:35:44. > :35:53.are making dramatic progress, he is building Skipton is -- scepticism.
:35:53. > :36:01.Aid marketing tends to treat the public as idiotic. The that fear is
:36:01. > :36:11.that people will not give money if they realise how difficult it is.
:36:11. > :36:13.
:36:13. > :36:19.Some of the most of the cod and Many countries have succeeded
:36:19. > :36:29.without it. Country is in Africa have done very well recently. I
:36:29. > :36:30.
:36:30. > :36:37.agree it with you on that. Somalia... Somalia or, I have just
:36:37. > :36:42.returned from there, nearly half the children are dying and that is
:36:42. > :36:52.an emergency situation, a conflict. If we do not invest, there will be
:36:52. > :36:56.
:36:56. > :36:59.complete for ever. Thank you for Good morning and welcome to Sunday
:36:59. > :37:01.Politics Scotland. Coming up on the programme.
:37:01. > :37:04.As the baby boomers approach pension age, they're quite
:37:04. > :37:09.comfortable, thank you very much. It's the younger generation who are
:37:09. > :37:11.left crying about their pension provision.
:37:11. > :37:14.And I will be asking whether the debate on Scotland's political
:37:14. > :37:17.future should include a greater role for women.
:37:17. > :37:19.Film festivals, BAFTA awards, lots of screen success, but does the
:37:19. > :37:29.Scottish film industry's future lie in location backdrop or home-grown
:37:29. > :37:32.
:37:32. > :37:35.talent? If you are young enough, you do not
:37:35. > :37:38.think about it. If you're old enough, you're probably worrying
:37:38. > :37:44.about it. Pensions are a big problem. More people are drawing
:37:44. > :37:46.them and fewer people are contributing. As the UK government
:37:46. > :37:49.warns us to take more responsibility for our retirement,
:37:49. > :37:59.there's a warning Scotland will enter the pension crisis before the
:37:59. > :38:05.
:38:06. > :38:14.! These infants were the first of the baby boomers. I am considering
:38:14. > :38:24.acquiring. I am one of the baby boomers, born
:38:24. > :38:28.
:38:28. > :38:33.at start of the Sixties. But my generation could be in trouble.
:38:33. > :38:43.becomes very difficult to make a significant return on any
:38:43. > :38:44.
:38:44. > :38:51.investment once you are in your Kira Maclean it is a self employed
:38:51. > :38:56.stained-glass artist. She says she has no intentions of planning for
:38:56. > :39:03.retirement. I would rather invest in them tangible things, things I
:39:03. > :39:07.can see and touch that I can transfer into profit for my
:39:07. > :39:17.business. When it you of something, you find a way to make money out of
:39:17. > :39:21.
:39:21. > :39:25.it. She will be at the age of retiring in 2050. In 1901, there
:39:25. > :39:32.were 10 workers for every one pensioner. By 2010, there were
:39:32. > :39:36.three workers for every pensioner. By 2050, that will drop took one.
:39:36. > :39:41.It will be difficult. But government is trying to anticipate
:39:41. > :39:46.what the problems are likely to be. That is why there is pressure in
:39:46. > :39:52.the public sector to increase contributions. There are also moves
:39:52. > :39:59.which will affect the state pension to increase the age of retirement.
:39:59. > :40:09.Increasing the age of retirement does make a big difference to the
:40:09. > :40:10.
:40:10. > :40:16.net exporter to pension liability of the state. -- net exposure.
:40:16. > :40:21.this woman believes that women are disadvantaged. Women do not receive
:40:21. > :40:28.equal pay generally. Their work lives are or interrupted as primary
:40:28. > :40:33.care givers. Yes, I think women are at a disadvantage. When you are in
:40:33. > :40:37.your twenties and thirties, you are not thinking about your pension. I
:40:37. > :40:47.know I did not. And it is a bit dull. But if we do not start
:40:47. > :40:51.thinking and planning for our retirement, there may not be enough
:40:52. > :40:56.cash in the pension pot to pay for everyone in the future. The UK
:40:56. > :41:04.Government is forcing employees and employers to put pension schemes in
:41:04. > :41:08.place. Automatic enrolment is the big thing. From October 2012, the
:41:08. > :41:12.largest employers in the UK started to place people into pension
:41:12. > :41:21.schemes. With that came the responsibility that the employer
:41:21. > :41:29.would pay something towards it. The taxman also adds 1% and the
:41:29. > :41:38.employee has to add 4%. By 2000 abating, every employer in the UK,
:41:38. > :41:42.over 1 million employers, will have put in place a pension scheme.
:41:42. > :41:49.If these babies have grown up and made no provision for their future,
:41:49. > :41:57.they might find themselves relying on the state pension and that might
:41:57. > :41:59.be not much more than subsistence. Well, we asked if the UK Pensions
:41:59. > :42:02.Minister Steve Webb or the Secretary to the Treasury Danny
:42:02. > :42:04.Alexander could come on, but neither were available. So instead
:42:04. > :42:10.we are joined by Labour's Gregg McClymont and in our Aberdeen
:42:10. > :42:14.Studio, the SNP MP Eilidh Whiteford. Good morning. First of all, the
:42:14. > :42:18.government gave details of the new simplified single two-tier system.
:42:18. > :42:24.You said you were going to look at what they were proposing and assess
:42:24. > :42:33.it carefully. Simplification is something which has been cold for
:42:33. > :42:40.for many years but the big thing that has not been examined so far
:42:40. > :42:44.is that there is a reduction in state pension over time. By 2050,
:42:44. > :42:49.people will get less from the state than they are currently getting.
:42:49. > :42:55.Which leads into the question of private pension provision. That is
:42:55. > :43:05.something the Government are trying to a cat. Labour did not simplify
:43:05. > :43:12.
:43:12. > :43:18.the system. -- are trying to do that. The changes made by Labour
:43:18. > :43:28.were very important. But the danger in it simplification is that it
:43:28. > :43:28.
:43:28. > :43:33.will obscure the reduction in state pension provision. The slack will
:43:33. > :43:38.have to be taken up by private provision and that is not in a good
:43:38. > :43:46.place at the warm-up. Eilidh Whiteford, you must welcomed the
:43:46. > :43:50.simplification? There are still many unanswered questions. Some of
:43:50. > :43:56.the initial analysis that has been done has suggested that in the long
:43:56. > :44:05.term, a lot of people will be worse off, in particular women and part-
:44:05. > :44:10.time workers. Women do tend to end less over their working lives, they
:44:10. > :44:15.are more likely to take time out to look after children and they are
:44:15. > :44:21.more likely to work part-time or. I think one of the big priorities has
:44:21. > :44:31.to be that we do not simply leave women in poverty in old age, which
:44:31. > :44:32.
:44:32. > :44:37.is a situation may have now. were debating this last month.
:44:37. > :44:47.Women approaching pension age have a problem with the new system. But
:44:47. > :44:47.
:44:47. > :44:57.is this system will not better for women? Perhaps, except you will
:44:57. > :45:01.
:45:02. > :45:06.need 35 years' contributions to get full Stich -- full estate pension.
:45:06. > :45:10.That is an increase from 30 years. The House of Commons has confirmed
:45:10. > :45:15.that there will be less eligibility for the new state pension than
:45:15. > :45:23.there is under the current system. That affects women in particular.
:45:23. > :45:31.The UK Government power facing a tight financial settlement, how
:45:31. > :45:34.would things be different in an independent Scotland? It would give
:45:34. > :45:39.us the opportunity to tailor or pensions policy to the need in
:45:40. > :45:49.Scotland. We have a distinct set of challenges. At the moment, we are
:45:50. > :45:50.
:45:50. > :45:54.spending a lower proportion of our revenues than the rest of the UK.
:45:54. > :45:58.You are speaking their about the Scottish government tailoring
:45:58. > :46:03.pension provision, John Swinney had the opportunity to do that for
:46:04. > :46:07.doctors and health workers and he decided not to, he decided to go
:46:07. > :46:12.with the recommendation of the UK Government that their contributions
:46:12. > :46:15.had to increase. It is unfortunate that we do not have a
:46:15. > :46:25.representative of the UK Government here today. The UK Government made
:46:25. > :46:37.
:46:37. > :46:41.it very clear that they would find them for any divergence -- fine. It
:46:41. > :46:44.was made very clear that there was no room for manoeuvre by the
:46:44. > :46:49.Scottish government in that respect. We need more powers to be able to
:46:49. > :46:52.do that. But John Swinney had the power if he wanted to. If they did
:46:52. > :46:58.not want those contributions to go up, he could have used the money
:46:58. > :47:02.from the public pot. John Swinney with them have had to make cuts
:47:02. > :47:05.elsewhere in the budget and, in effect, pay twice for those
:47:05. > :47:10.contributions. He would have had to find the money out of another
:47:10. > :47:15.budget, and budgets are very pressed, and he would have had to
:47:15. > :47:21.pay the fine that the government were imposing. The long-term answer
:47:21. > :47:28.to this is to have control of or pensions policies. Labour are a bit
:47:28. > :47:36.quiet on this when it comes to the Scottish situation. I do not
:47:36. > :47:42.recognise that description of paying twice. The Scottish
:47:42. > :47:51.government could have chosen it not to follow the UK Government
:47:51. > :48:01.position. It is chose not to do that. There are big challenges him
:48:01. > :48:03.
:48:03. > :48:09.public sector pensions. People are living longer, they have to fund at
:48:09. > :48:16.retirement over a longer period. Labour has put in place at a set of
:48:16. > :48:20.public sector pension reforms which the coalition government ripped up
:48:20. > :48:24.and impose a settlement. It is a tough call for politicians. We are
:48:24. > :48:28.hearing some of the problems laid out there. Do politicians have to
:48:28. > :48:32.say to people, your living standards are going to fall?
:48:32. > :48:36.think the real challenge is to look at this in the long term. That is a
:48:37. > :48:40.big challenge because of our changing demographics. But I think
:48:40. > :48:45.the real challenge is for people who work in the private and
:48:45. > :48:55.voluntary sector. Ever since Labour's attacks have laid on
:48:55. > :48:57.
:48:57. > :49:01.private sector pensions -- Labour's tax raid, we have to look at the
:49:01. > :49:06.longer term. We have to make this affordable, sustainable and fair.
:49:06. > :49:10.Most of us do not want to be poor in our old age. Most of us want a
:49:10. > :49:14.decent standard of living. But we have to understand that there is a
:49:14. > :49:20.price to be paid for that and that people have the guarantees that if
:49:20. > :49:30.they do save, they will have a standard of living that they have
:49:30. > :49:48.
:49:48. > :49:53.saved four. A lot of private sector There is a big challenge. There is
:49:53. > :49:58.a big shift at the moment. That was a Labour policy that the Government
:49:58. > :50:04.has taken on. The key thing is that there must be value for money.
:50:04. > :50:13.There is no confidence and private sector pensions. That means taking
:50:13. > :50:16.on market reforms. We will have to leave it there.
:50:16. > :50:19.Could the debate on Scotland's future be an opportunity to push
:50:19. > :50:22.for a more equal society? That was the question posed at a conference
:50:22. > :50:25.in Edinburgh this week - which asked if our European counterparts
:50:25. > :50:34.have the right idea when it comes to getting more women into
:50:34. > :50:38.politics? Hayley Jarvis went along to find out.
:50:38. > :50:48.Delegates hoped that women soon will be war recognised for their
:50:48. > :50:48.
:50:48. > :50:57.part in shaping Scotland's constitutional future. Where are we
:50:57. > :51:07.now? At Westminster, 22% of MPs are women. Scotland fares much better.
:51:07. > :51:07.
:51:07. > :51:16.35% up MSPs are women. But some say progress has stalled. Take Spain,
:51:16. > :51:23.in 2007, legislation made it impossible for there to be 40 to
:51:23. > :51:28.60% of candidates. Responses to women's issues are demands to
:51:28. > :51:34.equality. That has been a strong impact. In the Republic of Ireland
:51:34. > :51:40.it took a national crisis to meet this demand. It led to the
:51:40. > :51:46.introduction of 30% female politicians and political parties.
:51:46. > :51:50.That discussion was essential to the debate and it brought the issue
:51:50. > :51:56.of women's under-representation into politics. The economic
:51:56. > :52:00.meltdown also lead to a change in Iceland. And national reform was
:52:00. > :52:10.established made up of equal numbers of men and women. There is
:52:10. > :52:12.
:52:12. > :52:15.optimism of where this could lead. We are a society that has a less
:52:15. > :52:24.likely repeat of the financial crash that we went through. When it
:52:24. > :52:30.comes to deciding which candidate should be on the menu in the UK,
:52:30. > :52:35.the political parties have to decide that. There is pressure to
:52:35. > :52:40.make the mandatory. Gender quota has other building block. Ensuring
:52:40. > :52:45.that women are present, that women are there is a really good starting
:52:45. > :52:50.point. It is not the end, it is the beginning. It is quite as simple
:52:50. > :52:53.thing to argue, although it is quite difficult to achieve.
:52:53. > :52:58.constitutional convention has played a big part in promoting the
:52:58. > :53:05.role of Women in the evolution. Will we expect to see something
:53:05. > :53:10.someone now? It will be difficult in the next scene -- 18 months and
:53:10. > :53:20.two years to get the agenda in the debate. The constitution has been
:53:20. > :53:20.
:53:20. > :53:27.arid and under sold. It is dull and very, very heated. It is not having
:53:27. > :53:33.more women in politics would have a trickle down and encourage more
:53:33. > :53:40.equality in everyday life. Converting that from the debating
:53:40. > :53:43.hall into real life will be the real challenge.
:53:43. > :53:46.With me is the Chairman of the Scottish Human Rights Commission -
:53:46. > :53:52.Professor Alan Miller. And in our Edinburgh studio is the
:53:52. > :53:56.Constitutional Law expert - Professor Christine Bell. We are
:53:56. > :54:01.facing economic change, it produces opportunities to consider where we
:54:01. > :54:06.are when it comes to women in politics, whatever side of the
:54:07. > :54:11.constitutional debate you find yourself on. That is right.
:54:11. > :54:15.Interesting wake polls are showing that women are on a whole much less
:54:15. > :54:20.decided about which way they are going to vote. In some senses, I
:54:20. > :54:25.think that reflects people wanting to know what is it that this debate
:54:25. > :54:30.and that either side of the debate is offering in terms of their nests,
:54:30. > :54:35.political representation and in essence some capacity to deal with
:54:35. > :54:39.some of the bread and butter issues the women are facing today.
:54:39. > :54:44.doesn't matter what side of the debate you fall down on. There
:54:44. > :54:50.seems to be a lot of discussion about women's role in politics
:54:50. > :54:58.which there probably wasn't a few years ago? I think there was but I
:54:58. > :55:08.think we stalled after that. Women are facing a dish proportionate
:55:08. > :55:09.
:55:09. > :55:16.attack on budget cuts just now. Dass mack -- dish proportionate.
:55:16. > :55:19.The point of it is, to enable women and everyone in society to have
:55:19. > :55:23.equal access to internationally recognised human rights. The next
:55:23. > :55:27.stage in the journey is increasingly going to be debated as
:55:27. > :55:32.being providing international in recognised human rights like
:55:32. > :55:36.economic and social rights, adequate housing, high standard of
:55:36. > :55:43.healthcare. These are the sort of rights that need to be in our
:55:43. > :55:48.constitutional framework, never the less whether that is constitutional
:55:48. > :55:54.independence. Hearing about these rights that Allen is speaking about,
:55:54. > :55:58.can you give me a snapshot of how things are just now, how women fare
:55:58. > :56:08.in society and politics does now when it comes to these rights?
:56:08. > :56:12.
:56:12. > :56:18.is that there is a failure in its representation. In public bodies,
:56:18. > :56:24.there is still a big gender pay gap and also in terms of the economic
:56:24. > :56:29.crisis and austerity measures. Just how women are being hit
:56:30. > :56:34.disproportionately by these measures. Also, something that was
:56:34. > :56:38.strongly reflected in the events of other last two days was that while
:56:39. > :56:43.in many cases the policies that are quite good, there is a big gap
:56:43. > :56:53.between having those policies and laws and actually getting them into
:56:53. > :56:56.practice. So things like impact on inequality. Some of the measures of
:56:56. > :57:01.representation, it is just difficult translating that into
:57:01. > :57:07.practice. On that point about politicians and women leading
:57:07. > :57:12.quangos. If there are a large number of female politicians, does
:57:12. > :57:17.that be done to these non departmental bodies? Do women start
:57:17. > :57:21.to think, there are opportunities there? I think it does in terms of
:57:21. > :57:25.politicians. Sometimes you need different measures in the framework
:57:25. > :57:30.that sets up non-departmental public bodies and political
:57:30. > :57:36.representation. So there are ways to require. In Northern Ireland
:57:36. > :57:39.where I originally come via, there is a community balance in non
:57:39. > :57:49.departmental public bodies that is enshrined in the Northern Ireland
:57:49. > :57:54.
:57:54. > :57:58.Act. Unfortunately in Northern Ireland that has been represented
:57:58. > :58:03.as... It is possible to have a law that says on a constitutional level
:58:03. > :58:08.that there has to be equality of representation and these should
:58:08. > :58:18.reflect the society's reserve. was slaughter of representation
:58:18. > :58:18.
:58:18. > :58:28.could we have in Scotland? -- sort. Either route is capable of
:58:28. > :58:32.
:58:32. > :58:36.advancing the situation in Scotland. 60 countries around the world
:58:36. > :58:43.already do that. It is possible under furthered evolution and
:58:43. > :58:47.broadening the Scotland Act, to incorporate into law in Scotland,
:58:47. > :58:51.those international rights that the UK has ratified but has been
:58:51. > :58:58.criticised consistent by the UN to bring interlock and to allow people
:58:58. > :59:06.to benefit from it in the UK and Scotland. A better campaign to
:59:06. > :59:12.outline what proposals it has. people may say, all we have our
:59:12. > :59:16.goods female presentation -- representation in Scotland. Some
:59:16. > :59:22.people may say, or what is the issue here, women are well
:59:22. > :59:30.represented in Scottish politics? lot of those gains may be on a
:59:30. > :59:34.slightly backward track. There isn't really representation. The
:59:34. > :59:39.Point Allen makes is important. It is about seeing women in the
:59:39. > :59:42.positions and having an effect in their role in public life. It is
:59:42. > :59:48.about achieving a broader and freer framework that deals with issues
:59:48. > :59:52.that are not just of concern to women but society as a whole, such
:59:52. > :59:59.as social economic rights. I am afraid we will have to leave it
:59:59. > :00:03.there. Thank you very much for joining us.
:00:03. > :00:05.Coming up after the news: We'll be looking at the State of the
:00:05. > :00:08.Scottish Film Industry. Is Scotland just a location backdrop for big
:00:08. > :00:11.blockbuster movies or can the local industry manage to grow and hold
:00:11. > :00:14.onto its own talent? You're watching Sunday Politics Scotland
:00:14. > :00:17.and the time is coming up for Midday. So let's cross now for the
:00:17. > :00:26.news with Sue Thearle and Sally McNair.
:00:26. > :00:36.Coming up after the news: We'll be looking at the State of the
:00:36. > :00:39.
:00:39. > :00:44.Scottish Film Industry. Is Scotland just a Thearle and Sally McNair.
:00:44. > :00:49.Malcolm Malcolm Walker said that local authorities gave contracts
:00:49. > :00:55.based on cost. He insisted supermarkets went to great lengths
:00:55. > :01:00.to ensure safety and were not responsible for the crisis. There
:01:00. > :01:06.is a whole part of that industry which is invisible. That is the
:01:06. > :01:12.catering industry. Local authorities award contracts based
:01:12. > :01:17.on one think - price. If you are looking to blame someone, it is
:01:17. > :01:25.invisible. It is schools, hospitals, prisons and local authorities that
:01:25. > :01:32.are driving this down. Police in Northern Nigeria sake several
:01:32. > :01:35.people have been kidnapped. A prison was targeted first before
:01:35. > :01:39.the construction firm. A teenager has died after he was
:01:40. > :01:44.shot in East London last night. The 19-year-old boy was attacked in the
:01:44. > :01:49.street. A 32-year-old man was also shot and injured. He is in hospital
:01:49. > :01:55.in a stable condition. An investigation has been started
:01:55. > :01:58.after a woman was killed after being hit by a car. She was
:01:58. > :02:01.watching that rally yesterday when a vehicle at the track and hit
:02:01. > :02:04.spectators. Two other people including an eight year-old boy
:02:05. > :02:08.were injured. A British teenager who was lost in
:02:08. > :02:13.the Australian outback for more than three days says he was on his
:02:14. > :02:18.last legs when he was eventually found. He went missing on Tuesday
:02:18. > :02:23.after he left the cattle station to go jogging. He lost more than two
:02:23. > :02:32.stone in weight. He stayed alive by drinking contact lens solution.
:02:32. > :02:35.That is all the news for now. Good afternoon. Police have named
:02:35. > :02:38.the woman who died when a car collided with spectators at the
:02:38. > :02:42.annual Snow Man rally in the Highlands. Joy Robson was 50 and
:02:42. > :02:45.from the Isle of Skye. An eight year old boy was injured in the
:02:45. > :02:51.crash. The driver and co driver were not hurt. The rally in
:02:51. > :02:53.Glenurquhart Forest near Loch Ness was abandoned by the organisers.
:02:53. > :02:56.The Rural Affairs Minister Richard Lochhead wants retailers to review
:02:56. > :02:58.their sourcing and purchasing policies. He said that product
:02:58. > :03:02.testing was "the very least" they should be doing to reassure
:03:02. > :03:05.consumers that the horse meat issue was not widespread. Mr. Lochhead
:03:05. > :03:12.was speaking ahead of a meeting in London tomorrow with retailers,
:03:12. > :03:15.processors and the UK Government. Figures obtained under Freedom of
:03:15. > :03:17.Information legislation confirm the number of part-time places in
:03:17. > :03:19.Scotland's colleges has fallen sharply since 2009. The Liberal
:03:19. > :03:22.Democrats say their research suggests there's been a drop of
:03:22. > :03:25.around 85,000 part-time places in the past four years. They blame the
:03:25. > :03:27.shortfall on multi-million pound cuts in funding. The Scottish
:03:27. > :03:37.Government say that budgets are higher than first planned, and
:03:37. > :03:47.there are thousands more college places. Here's the weather now with
:03:47. > :03:51.Good afternoon. The weather is looking fine across the country
:03:52. > :03:55.this afternoon. It is going to remain dry with some lovely spells
:03:55. > :04:02.a brightness and sunshine. There will be varying amounts of cloud
:04:02. > :04:06.coming and going along West and coastal areas. High is generally of
:04:06. > :04:13.around nine or ten Celsius, Perhaps 11 Celsius in the prolonged
:04:13. > :04:22.sunshine. Wins will generally be light, just a fresh southerly
:04:22. > :04:25.Coastal areas. That is all from the newsroom for now. The Glasgow Film
:04:25. > :04:28.Festival's underway and the first UK screening of the Hollywood movie
:04:28. > :04:31."Cloud Atlas" will take place tonight. It's one of a raft of US
:04:31. > :04:34.block-busters which chose Scotland as a location. But given the recent
:04:34. > :04:37.success of some of our home-grown talent, is it too much to consider
:04:37. > :04:47.whether these big films could be developed here too? Christine
:04:47. > :04:48.
:04:48. > :04:55.Macleod's been trying to find out. Ion drive to understand why we keep
:04:55. > :04:59.making the same mistakes. It has the power and infrastructure to
:04:59. > :05:06.deliver to a cinema near you. In the past two years, Glasgow streets
:05:06. > :05:16.have attracted many of its films. Cloud Atlas and World War has led
:05:16. > :05:26.
:05:26. > :05:30.to name a couple. They have boosted helped put Scotland or on the map.
:05:30. > :05:38.It was the Scottish on that one which stretched the boundaries of
:05:38. > :05:48.possible to. This film was conceived, produced and delivered
:05:48. > :06:04.
:06:04. > :06:09.I think to aim for Holyrood, that is quite an aim. But they could
:06:09. > :06:15.have a healthy film industry like London house. We just need to
:06:15. > :06:19.support our people and invest. think the dream is working on
:06:19. > :06:26.features, being able to actually develop those and bring them
:06:26. > :06:33.through to completion in Scotland. That would be fantastic. But this
:06:33. > :06:39.art student believes it is not a short-term possibility. For her, it
:06:40. > :06:44.means looking further afield. to go to London to look for an
:06:44. > :06:50.internship. There is not enough work here. But the appeal of the
:06:50. > :06:56.big time is not to the taste of all of her future talent. There are so
:06:56. > :07:06.many individual voices and strong characters. I do not think we need
:07:06. > :07:11.
:07:11. > :07:21.the Holyrood machine in order to have the industry. -- Holyrood.
:07:21. > :07:24.
:07:24. > :07:30.Are Northern Lights is Scotland's first crowd feature from. Is this
:07:30. > :07:40.the future? You can leave at the small but of the city behind you
:07:40. > :07:43.
:07:43. > :07:45.and come out here and feel properly Scottish again. Know what I mean?
:07:46. > :07:48.With me this afternoon is Allison Gardner, co-director of the Glasgow
:07:48. > :07:52.Film Festival, and Nick Higgins, the driving force behind the new
:07:52. > :07:56.film We Are Northern Lights which you have just seen in the package
:07:56. > :08:01.there. First of all, We Are Northern
:08:01. > :08:06.Lights is a unique film production, are you trying to work around the
:08:06. > :08:12.traditional system? In some sense. In other ways, we are responding to
:08:12. > :08:18.the reality out there. People have cameras already, the technology is
:08:18. > :08:22.there. We wanted to enable people to bring that together into one a
:08:22. > :08:30.wider vision of Scotland today. Could we be seeing more of this
:08:30. > :08:37.walk new method -- more of this new method? I wonder if it is an
:08:37. > :08:41.industry model. I like to see at part of a civic media culture where
:08:41. > :08:48.people participate, where they make a video of responses to what is
:08:48. > :08:55.going on in their community. What is at the state of the industry in
:08:55. > :08:59.Scotland at the moment? We have seen that cloud source film, quite
:08:59. > :09:03.innovative. What is the real behind-the-scenes look at the
:09:04. > :09:11.industry? I think we punch above our weight in Scotland in terms of
:09:11. > :09:19.talent. But it is difficult to get those big feature films are made.
:09:19. > :09:23.It is the financing however. Digital is great. But it does not
:09:23. > :09:28.mean that everything is good that his shot. There has to be an
:09:28. > :09:37.editing process as well. But we do have Tullett here. When it you look
:09:37. > :09:47.at the financing, how is that in Scotland just now? We used to have
:09:47. > :09:48.
:09:48. > :09:54.Scottish Kareem, Creative Scotland. We are a small nation so we have to
:09:54. > :09:58.co-produce. We have to have that investment to go out to the
:09:58. > :10:08.international market and find partners. It is happening. The
:10:08. > :10:09.
:10:09. > :10:13.Glasgow Film Festival is showing some. There are not sufficient
:10:13. > :10:19.funds available at the moment. But we have to create our own domestic
:10:19. > :10:23.market for that. That is what film festivals are fantastic for. There
:10:23. > :10:26.are two aspects to this. Going to see our own films and learning
:10:26. > :10:36.through making things. The trouble seems to be that the money still
:10:36. > :10:38.
:10:38. > :10:42.lies in Holyrood. They filmed at World War Z here in Glasgow, but
:10:42. > :10:50.Glasgow is being used as a cheap location backdrop, it is not see
:10:50. > :11:00.him at the real Scotland? Perhaps. But lots of countries come to
:11:00. > :11:01.
:11:02. > :11:05.Scotland to work here because of the talent. But there are so many
:11:05. > :11:08.co-producers that countries are banding together. Holyrood and
:11:09. > :11:14.studios are really the only people that have the money to make a big
:11:14. > :11:23.film. He is, they do you Scotland, but it gives our cast and crew an
:11:23. > :11:29.opportunity to work on a high end product. They get good experience.
:11:29. > :11:39.What kind of crude to be happier in Scotland? So many Scottish film-
:11:39. > :11:42.
:11:42. > :11:48.makers have to travel south to ply their trade. I am not going to
:11:48. > :11:52.knock anything that brings more money into the economy for film-
:11:52. > :11:56.makers, but I only make documentaries. I do not often work
:11:56. > :12:00.with those sort of big news. Documentary is something that is
:12:00. > :12:08.booming in Scotland. Animation is something that we have got a great
:12:08. > :12:12.name for. Documentaries, we are becoming leaders in Europe. But for
:12:12. > :12:16.that to be sustainable, we need more Scottish audience to pay to go
:12:16. > :12:24.to see those films. Scotland as a market for films has not quite
:12:24. > :12:34.established. We need to work on that. How do we do that?
:12:34. > :12:36.
:12:36. > :12:45.difficulty is there is not... Multiplexes proliferate. We need to
:12:45. > :12:49.support small theatres, community cinemas. It is a great way to
:12:49. > :12:54.engage your community and see things that are different. You need
:12:54. > :12:59.an outlet so that people can see things that are charming, different,
:12:59. > :13:09.foreign-language. Looking at these different films, based purely
:13:09. > :13:10.
:13:10. > :13:12.Scottish films, in a way, we are often situated in Scotland by
:13:12. > :13:19.Holyrood dollars and we do not reflect our selves. We let other
:13:19. > :13:26.people do the work for us. In some ways. Our project, We Are Northern
:13:26. > :13:31.Lights, is a celebrity free zone. There is something about letting
:13:31. > :13:40.people tell the truth of their own stories, that people still want to
:13:40. > :13:44.go and see. That is how it cinema started. We still believe Bebo will
:13:44. > :13:54.come and see the stories if they are told in an interesting,
:13:54. > :13:56.
:13:56. > :14:06.engaging and passionate way. What other Scottish films will we see?
:14:06. > :14:06.
:14:06. > :14:10.Shell, a very good Scottish strand at the Film Festival. We support
:14:10. > :14:15.our industry by giving them an outlet to be seen in an
:14:15. > :14:21.international film festival context. Are you positive about the future
:14:21. > :14:26.of the industry? I am, but I do not think industry is the way to fame
:14:26. > :14:32.at this. It is about our media and cinema culture. As people make
:14:33. > :14:36.things, we learn how things are made and they will watch and you
:14:36. > :14:42.different products as they come out. It is not just about the economy,
:14:43. > :14:47.it is the part of the culture as well. With digital culture, that is
:14:47. > :14:55.probably easier to achieve it. Cinema audiences are still up and
:14:55. > :15:03.go to the cinema despite the effects of piracy. Yes, the cinema
:15:03. > :15:11.is a growing industry. It is a cheaper form of entertainment. But
:15:11. > :15:17.you cannot will make great films if you do not watch a great films. You
:15:17. > :15:20.have to see at the diversity of product to make a great film.
:15:20. > :15:24.you. In a moment, we'll be looking ahead
:15:24. > :15:34.to the next seven days, but first, let's take a look back at the week
:15:34. > :15:38.
:15:38. > :15:44.in Sixty Seconds. Holyrood was on holiday. But that
:15:44. > :15:52.British government looked at their legal situation of an independent
:15:52. > :15:57.Scotland. Scotland is separating from the United Kingdom. The United
:15:57. > :16:01.Kingdom will remain in the same state. The fiscal Commission
:16:01. > :16:05.working group established by the Scottish government said the pound
:16:05. > :16:15.would prove best for an independent Scotland and the rest of the UK.
:16:15. > :16:16.
:16:17. > :16:20.looked very hard at three options and Stirling fitted the bill best.
:16:20. > :16:28.The Rural Affairs Secretary welcomed it a European Union wide
:16:28. > :16:38.meet at testing scheme. Is it a bird, a plane? No, a spectacular
:16:38. > :16:42.
:16:42. > :16:45.Let's now take a look at the big political events coming up in The
:16:45. > :16:50.Week Ahead. Joining me this week is Professor
:16:51. > :16:57.Ailsa McKay, the economist from Glasgow Caledonian University. And
:16:57. > :17:02.in Edinburgh, the columnist and theatre critic Joyce McMillan.
:17:02. > :17:08.Joyce McMillan, a very interesting discussion on film and the nature
:17:08. > :17:11.of the Scottish film industry. What is your assessment of it? A cheap
:17:11. > :17:16.place for occasion back drops or somewhere that is nurturing home-
:17:16. > :17:21.grown talent? I think there are issues over how well we nurture
:17:21. > :17:25.home-grown talent. For the last decade, the structures for
:17:25. > :17:32.supporting things like the film industry in Scotland, the arts and
:17:32. > :17:38.the creative industry, has that been in this long drawn-out
:17:38. > :17:42.transition with many reports between the Arts Council, Film
:17:42. > :17:46.Council and the new Creative Scotland has set up. Their new
:17:46. > :17:52.Creative Scotland is a top does not have a happy start. There were a
:17:52. > :17:57.lot of problems in the first couple of years. They are only now being
:17:57. > :18:07.resolved. We are a long way from a solution as well. No country the
:18:07. > :18:09.
:18:09. > :18:17.size of Scotland has a successful film industry. I think we are at
:18:17. > :18:21.the beginning of being able to get it right. The people who work in
:18:21. > :18:30.the industry are the ones who know where that help can be best placed
:18:30. > :18:37.and they have to be consulted. Sadly, we have waited and wasted 10
:18:37. > :18:44.years in tried to get that going. But there is still colossal
:18:44. > :18:54.potential. Yes, it is a tough industry, one that is trying to
:18:54. > :18:54.
:18:54. > :18:59.create and sell dreams but have to face hard cash realities. It is not
:18:59. > :19:03.my area, but in terms of the media in general, your previous piece
:19:03. > :19:09.about the equality conference indicated that there are a lot of
:19:09. > :19:16.voices to be had out there. There was good coverage yesterday morning
:19:16. > :19:23.of the conference and well informed and intelligent debate. It was
:19:23. > :19:33.guided a bit by the presenter introducing the next piece by
:19:33. > :19:39.
:19:39. > :19:47.saying, now a piece for the boys. - - stymied. That is irresponsible
:19:47. > :19:53.journalism. This conference has not received a lot of coverage. There
:19:53. > :19:56.is a constitutional flux, economic uncertainty, whichever side of the
:19:56. > :20:02.debate you come down on, it is a good opportunity to discuss the
:20:02. > :20:12.issue. There is never a long time to discuss the issue of why women
:20:12. > :20:12.
:20:12. > :20:18.are poorly represented at public life. That comment yesterday
:20:18. > :20:28.morning is typical of what happens. I think people would have said that
:20:28. > :20:30.
:20:30. > :20:33.in the 1970s. But it is like the clocks have gone back. It is a good
:20:33. > :20:42.moment to raise the subject, but it is a very difficult moment to
:20:42. > :20:46.achieve anything with that. Unlike the devolution debate of the 1990s,
:20:46. > :20:49.when you could have a constructive conversation of how you want to
:20:49. > :20:54.that new parliament to be, which included a very wide range of
:20:54. > :20:59.people, this time you have got a debate that is being structured by
:20:59. > :21:04.the Unionist political parties to be divisive. The SNP started it,
:21:04. > :21:10.unionist parties have made it worse. The debate divides Scottish Women,
:21:10. > :21:18.Scottish civil society and makes it very difficult for any group who is
:21:18. > :21:22.interested in NPower mode to have a say in the debate. -- empowerment.
:21:22. > :21:32.Yesterday, the piece on Radio Scotland indicated that very well,
:21:32. > :21:35.
:21:35. > :21:44.that women's voices are there, it is just how they are being reported.
:21:44. > :21:49.You have to resolve disputes by moving beyond simple no or yes. We
:21:49. > :21:59.have a responsibility to make that happen. At the conference yesterday,
:21:59. > :22:00.
:22:00. > :22:06.there was an interjection from the floor saying, as a woman in
:22:06. > :22:14.Clydebank, where do ago to buy my human rights? What do human rights
:22:14. > :22:20.mean? What does it mean for women in Scotland? What difference will
:22:20. > :22:29.constitutional change make? We need to be asking those questions.
:22:29. > :22:35.talking about the debate, in several papers this week, has the
:22:35. > :22:38.debate moved on? I think not. The UK paper was so peculiar in his
:22:38. > :22:43.fear of what the union is that it takes things back rather than
:22:44. > :22:53.forward. The idea that Scotland was extinguished by the union, which
:22:54. > :22:54.
:22:54. > :22:59.appeared in that paper, it was not extinguished at all. It seems to me
:22:59. > :23:09.that the paper... They are getting the legal advice they are paying
:23:09. > :23:14.
:23:14. > :23:24.for. The Fiscal Commission, an interesting use of the pound.
:23:24. > :23:31.dry, all of that process, not about policy. Thank you.