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:00:40. > :00:43.Politics. Farewell Abu Qatada. It's only taken

:00:43. > :00:46.us eight years to send you packing. The extremist Muslim cleric has

:00:46. > :00:50.already arrived in Jordan this morning. We'll be talking to Justice

:00:50. > :00:54.Secretary Chris Grayling. We know what Nigel Farage thinks -

:00:54. > :00:57.he's never off the telly. But what about the rest of UKIP? Stay tuned

:00:57. > :01:01.for the biggest survey yet of UKIP councillors. We'll be putting our

:01:01. > :01:04.results to the party leader. As Ed Milliband and Union baron Len

:01:04. > :01:14.McLuskey come to blows, we'll be asking political bruiser John Reid

:01:14. > :01:17.

:01:17. > :01:20.who's in charge of Labour? And imagine coming out of the care

:01:20. > :01:30.system at 16 and finding yourself homeless. There is new legislation

:01:30. > :01:30.

:01:30. > :32:44.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1873 seconds

:32:44. > :32:47.to fix the issue but does it go far this point you seem reluctant to

:32:47. > :32:50.talk about and instead bash Labour which is not what I am asking about

:32:50. > :32:56.at all. We have seen that many people who might have voted for you,

:32:56. > :33:00.who voted Conservative in the past, will now vote for MrFar and --

:33:00. > :33:04.MrFarage. Maybe in enough numbers to give MrMiliband the keys to Downing

:33:04. > :33:08.Street which you say would be a disaster and MrMcCluskey and the

:33:08. > :33:12.rest of them. I ask again why don't you do a deal to stop that

:33:13. > :33:15.happening? Well, you don't do deals. You fight for your principles, you

:33:15. > :33:18.fight for what you believe is right. The Conservative Party isn't going

:33:18. > :33:21.to go to a general election having done a deal with someone else. We

:33:21. > :33:26.are going to a general election and fight on the principles we believe

:33:26. > :33:30.in. If you take the issue of Europe, the one on which a number of people

:33:30. > :33:34.have expressed concerns in the last few years. On Friday the entire

:33:34. > :33:38.Conservative Party went to the House of Commons and voted for a

:33:38. > :33:44.referendum on the European Union. We face opposition to that from Labour

:33:44. > :33:49.and the Lib Dems. Not from UKIP. Why can't you do a deal with a party

:33:49. > :33:53.that's already full of people who used to be Conservatives? Look, we

:33:53. > :33:56.have to get legislation through the House of Commons. The reality of the

:33:56. > :34:00.House of Commons is that it's Labour and the Lib Dems who have more votes

:34:00. > :34:03.than us in the House of Commons. So therefore if we are going to win the

:34:03. > :34:07.argument the only way we will be able to change these things, the way

:34:07. > :34:11.we can deliver a referendum, a renegotiation first because that's

:34:11. > :34:14.crucial, we have to have a renegotiation so there is a genuine

:34:14. > :34:21.deal to offer, we have to get a majority Conservative Government.

:34:21. > :34:25.understand that. But you are only trailing Labour by 6-10% in the

:34:25. > :34:29.polls, it's not a huge amount Labour is ahead at the moment. A deal with

:34:29. > :34:33.UKIP would make it much more likely that you form a Government after the

:34:33. > :34:39.next election. You have seen the election projections, no deal with

:34:39. > :34:46.UKIP, MrMiliband could win an overall majority with less than 35%

:34:46. > :34:49.of the vote. Well, the deal I want to do is not with another party.

:34:49. > :34:52.It's with voters. It's with voters who might be tempted to vote for

:34:52. > :34:56.UKIP, voters who might be tempted to vote for the Labour Party or Lib

:34:56. > :35:00.Dems. We have to say to them if you want a referendum on Europe, if you

:35:00. > :35:04.want new human rights laws, to carry on with welfare reform, if you want

:35:04. > :35:07.more education changes of the kind you believe in, if you want a

:35:07. > :35:12.tougher criminal justice system you need a majority Conservative

:35:12. > :35:17.Government. All right. Abu Qatada back in Jordan today. The Home

:35:17. > :35:21.Secretary said in the aftermath of this we need to look at the European

:35:21. > :35:24.Court of Human Rights and nothing should be off the table, quote. But

:35:24. > :35:29.nothing off the table, does that include the possibility that we

:35:29. > :35:33.would leave the European Convention on Human Rights? Yes, it does. We

:35:33. > :35:36.have been very clear. We are currently doing detailed work on

:35:36. > :35:39.options. I have personal responsibility within the

:35:39. > :35:44.Ministerial team for human rights issues. We are currently looking at

:35:44. > :35:48.what the options are for us. I have been very clear indeed, we are not

:35:48. > :35:52.ruling anything in, we are not ruling anything out. I have said

:35:52. > :35:56.clearly at a minimum there will be a replacement for the Human Rights

:35:56. > :35:59.Act. We will have a fundamental change to our realise with the

:35:59. > :36:06.European Court of Human Rights. We cannot go on with a situation where

:36:06. > :36:11.we have people who want to do real damage to this country able to stay

:36:12. > :36:15.here, when they represent a threat to us A future Conservative

:36:15. > :36:19.Government with a majority, one of the options would be to leave the

:36:19. > :36:24.convention altogether? One of the options, I have ruled nothing in and

:36:24. > :36:28.out. A future Conservative Government with a majority will make

:36:28. > :36:30.wholesale changes to human rights laws. The problem is not the

:36:30. > :36:37.original convention written by Conservatives and is a sensible

:36:37. > :36:40.document. It's the way in which the European Courts interpret it and

:36:40. > :36:43.re-interpret it You can't change the convention yourself. You can't

:36:43. > :36:48.change it. Well, that's why we are working through detailed options and

:36:48. > :36:52.we will come up later this year with a clear plan. We will go to the next

:36:52. > :36:56.election in our manifesto with a clear plan for change that will set

:36:56. > :37:00.out exactly what we will do, when we will do it, how we will do it, what

:37:00. > :37:04.the legal basis will be. We will have that in good time for the

:37:04. > :37:08.election but I am absolutely clear there will be wholesale changes to

:37:08. > :37:11.the way that human rights laws operate in this country. I am sure

:37:11. > :37:17.UKIP will agree with you, but I understand there will be no deal,

:37:17. > :37:26.you have made that clear. Thank you for joining us. Coming up in 20

:37:26. > :37:33.minutes, I will be looking at the week ahead with our panel. Welcome

:37:33. > :37:43.to Sunday Politics Scotland. What more can be done to help those

:37:43. > :37:45.

:37:45. > :37:52.marooned by the system after 16? had no family down here. The Battle

:37:52. > :37:57.of Falkirk. Ed Miliband wants to mend the union link.

:37:57. > :38:05.And the social media cyber war. How Yes Scotland and Better Together

:38:05. > :38:08.wrestle it out in the digital world. It is a familiar story across the

:38:08. > :38:15.country. Young people leave the care system only to find themselves

:38:15. > :38:20.homeless. The Scottish Government is trying to change that through the

:38:20. > :38:27.Children and Young People's Bill. Some believe it does not go far

:38:27. > :38:31.enough. For this person the search for a

:38:31. > :38:36.place to call home has been difficult. Now settled with his

:38:36. > :38:42.partner and his daughter it is a different picture to five years ago.

:38:42. > :38:52.The clear unit he was placed on was closed down. Unable to go home,

:38:52. > :38:55.homelessness was his only option. had no family down here. I was in a

:38:55. > :39:03.bed and breakfast. You were not allowed to be there during the day.

:39:03. > :39:07.You had to be outside. I was lost. In towns and cities across the

:39:07. > :39:10.country thousands of people have similar stories to tell. The nature

:39:10. > :39:16.of homelessness means that hard and fast figures are difficult to come

:39:16. > :39:26.by. It is estimated that one third of Scotland's homeless population

:39:26. > :39:29.

:39:29. > :39:36.have spent time in care. I had two younger brothers who has

:39:36. > :39:43.left the care system at an early age. They were homeless. They passed

:39:43. > :39:53.away at the age of 18. There is a real disconnect when a young person

:39:53. > :39:55.

:39:55. > :39:59.has grown up in the care system and then they leave the system.

:39:59. > :40:09.The organisation Who Cares Scotland has supported -- has provided

:40:09. > :40:10.

:40:10. > :40:17.support and employment. Every person has the same aspirations. They want

:40:17. > :40:23.a job. They want a family. We have not given them the tools for that to

:40:23. > :40:27.happen. If we look at the different sources that are paying for the

:40:27. > :40:37.services that young people use and put that back into investing in the

:40:37. > :40:39.

:40:39. > :40:49.longer term. The legislation proposes to raise the age that

:40:49. > :40:58.

:40:58. > :41:02.support is available from 21 at 226. -- from 21 to 26. The economic sense

:41:02. > :41:05.of acting early is there to be seen. There are many preventive measures

:41:06. > :41:13.in this legislation that will help us to ensure that young people 's

:41:13. > :41:17.lives are positive will stop but Who Cares Scotland are not alone in

:41:17. > :41:24.thinking the Bill needs to go further.

:41:24. > :41:32.I would like to see some consideration of 16-year-olds and

:41:32. > :41:40.17-year-olds, the possibility that they can be received back into care.

:41:40. > :41:49.The Bottom Line for this person is that those leaving care in future

:41:49. > :41:59.should not face the same situation he did. People should be able to say

:41:59. > :42:00.

:42:00. > :42:05.that they need the support. It should be a baseline. Joining me now

:42:05. > :42:14.is the Chief Executive of Who Cares Scotland, Duncan Dunlop, and Mary

:42:14. > :42:18.Fee, who is on the equal opportunities to midday will stop

:42:18. > :42:28.and we have Marco Biagi who is also on the Equal Opportunities

:42:28. > :42:29.

:42:29. > :42:33.Committee. Paint a picture for us. How serious is the problem? We have

:42:33. > :42:39.to look at it relative to what happens to other young people. The

:42:39. > :42:48.average age of young people leaving home in Scotland is 26. The majority

:42:48. > :42:58.of people are leaving care at 16. Yet they have not had the stability

:42:58. > :42:59.

:42:59. > :43:06.through childhood and adolescence. The consequences of this are dire.

:43:06. > :43:16.We have to take this seriously. They need the right to be able to return

:43:16. > :43:19.

:43:19. > :43:29.to care, or stay in care until 26. As the legislation and is

:43:29. > :43:31.

:43:31. > :43:41.opportunity? It needs to go further. Children and Young People's Bill

:43:41. > :43:45.

:43:45. > :43:49.need the right to return to care or to stay in care until age 26.

:43:49. > :43:58.Biagi, what do you have to say about what Duncan Dunlop has been pointing

:43:58. > :44:08.out? The legislation has perhaps not gone far enough? The legislation

:44:08. > :44:11.extends the duty of corporate parenting by councils. Many of the

:44:11. > :44:17.most successful projects for people who have let care are those that

:44:17. > :44:24.have ongoing support, not simply putting them in a House, but having

:44:24. > :44:28.support staff that come round and help them with life skills. That

:44:28. > :44:35.kind of support is very important. It is being rolled out with the

:44:35. > :44:41.changes that are taking place. When a young person leaves care they are

:44:41. > :44:45.dependent on the grant that the Scottish Government has stepped in

:44:46. > :44:55.to protect from Westminster cuts. There is a great deal already

:44:56. > :44:58.

:44:58. > :45:03.happening. The legislation is a huge step already. Would you go as far as

:45:03. > :45:09.what Duncan Dunlop is proposing? That would give many the chance to

:45:09. > :45:14.go through higher education and make their way in the world. This

:45:14. > :45:20.legislation includes provision that local councils would have to listen

:45:20. > :45:24.to calls for help from these people up to the age of 26. I do not want

:45:24. > :45:29.to be prescriptive about the particular approach. There are a lot

:45:29. > :45:33.of methods of support out there. We have seen a great deal of work with

:45:33. > :45:37.councils, not just with people who are leaving care, but is trying to

:45:37. > :45:42.intervene to stop people going into care. The prevention agenda is not

:45:42. > :45:46.just after you leave care. It is trying to deal with difficult

:45:46. > :45:54.situations that can lead to an young people needing care in the first

:45:54. > :46:01.place. Mary Fee, on the Equal Opportunities Committee you were

:46:01. > :46:07.pointing out that the age should be raised to 18. What about the idea

:46:07. > :46:11.that the support should be there until the age of 25? It is crucial

:46:11. > :46:21.that the support is there until the age of 25 if that is what they

:46:21. > :46:21.

:46:22. > :46:31.want. Many of the young care leavers told us that 16 is too young to

:46:32. > :46:32.

:46:32. > :46:38.leave care. We heard harrowing story from a young person who was taken to

:46:38. > :46:48.temporary accommodation on his 16th birthday. He did not have the life

:46:48. > :46:49.

:46:49. > :46:59.skills to sustain that tenancy. What is your reaction? When politicians

:46:59. > :47:10.

:47:10. > :47:16.know about this issue. They now understand this issue. We are

:47:16. > :47:19.evolving the thinking. This legislation needs to go further. We

:47:19. > :47:29.have not refused the legislation. We just need to look at it in more

:47:29. > :47:30.

:47:30. > :47:40.detail. It is too complex. We need to compare it to what other young

:47:40. > :47:40.

:47:40. > :47:45.people have in their lives. They have parents who gave them. At the

:47:45. > :47:52.moment there are too many different relationships, different places, and

:47:52. > :48:02.these young people do not know who to trust. That is why going to

:48:02. > :48:12.another set of relationships from age 16 does not necessarily help.

:48:12. > :48:20.

:48:20. > :48:24.Perhaps we are lacking in support. Is there a financial issues here?

:48:24. > :48:31.Councils at and down the country bear the cost of having to clean up

:48:31. > :48:41.after terrible incidents that could have been prevented will stop --

:48:41. > :48:48.

:48:48. > :48:51.prevented. The kind of measures that are in the legislation will embed

:48:51. > :48:57.that approach. That is an approach that a lot of councils will

:48:57. > :49:02.appreciate. Right now there is a tight financial situation imposed on

:49:02. > :49:06.Scotland. It is hard to make that shift without cutting somewhere

:49:06. > :49:16.else, but over the long term that is a shift in service provision that

:49:16. > :49:20.

:49:20. > :49:27.everybody wants to see. That is not necessarily true. In the short-term

:49:27. > :49:33.it could be expensive. How much does it cost to put someone through the

:49:33. > :49:43.justice system? How much does it cost for somebody to be an employed

:49:43. > :49:45.

:49:45. > :49:48.and not involved in education? A preventative agenda would make

:49:48. > :49:55.Scotland the best place to grow up. It is a great opportunity for

:49:55. > :50:05.Scotland to do this. Mary Fee, are you going to press for further

:50:05. > :50:08.

:50:08. > :50:15.changes? I don't think the bill does go far enough. Many children leave

:50:15. > :50:21.the key system without the proper system. We have to look very

:50:21. > :50:26.carefully at corporate patenting. We should expect the same things for

:50:26. > :50:35.those children as we aspire to for our own children. It is a key issue

:50:35. > :50:39.for me. I want to ask about the Falkirk situation for the Labour

:50:39. > :50:43.Party at the moment. Do you think it is possible to mend a link with the

:50:43. > :50:47.unions? Absolutely I think it is possible. The situation in Falkirk

:50:47. > :50:57.is alive peace enquiry so it would be inappropriate for me to comment.

:50:57. > :50:59.

:50:59. > :51:06.John Hanlan and -- Joanne Lamb and has been involved in that. It is not

:51:06. > :51:10.just a Falkirk issue, it is a UK issue. It is a far wider issue.

:51:10. > :51:17.is not just a Falkirk problem, there are claims today that unite tried to

:51:17. > :51:25.take in the shadow Foreign Secretary when a review pitched him against

:51:25. > :51:29.Jim Sheridan, what do you see about that? That is ludicrous. You cannot

:51:30. > :51:34.compare the two situations. Clearly easily could have suffered in the

:51:34. > :51:39.boundary changes. A boundary changes did not go ahead and MPs would have

:51:39. > :51:42.been up against each other had they gone ahead. The situation is

:51:42. > :51:47.completely different. It is only natural when there is a selection

:51:47. > :51:52.process that people will come in and join the party but it is crucial we

:51:52. > :51:59.get the best possible people standing in seats. Thank you all for

:51:59. > :52:09.an interesting discussion. Since Obama's rise to office social media

:52:09. > :52:11.

:52:11. > :52:21.and the Internet have seen as crucial campaign tools. Better

:52:21. > :52:25.

:52:25. > :52:30.Together had a big change. The battle for America 2008 is the one

:52:30. > :52:36.to beat. With the West Wing 's dream of having a political campaign like

:52:36. > :52:40.that, as ground-breaking as its outcome was historic. Trucial to the

:52:40. > :52:45.success was the way the Obama campaign used the Internet and

:52:45. > :52:50.social media to get their message out and bring donations in. The

:52:50. > :53:00.company behind that digital effort has been advising the Better

:53:00. > :53:01.

:53:01. > :53:06.Together campaign ahead of Scottish independence. They had to build an

:53:06. > :53:12.organisation from scratch so they wait to digital to do that. Often

:53:12. > :53:15.the digital team is often put in the corner, in the cupboard far-away,

:53:15. > :53:18.decisions are made in an organisation or political campaign

:53:19. > :53:23.and then very close to the time I campaign is launched that gets

:53:23. > :53:31.involved with the digital team. The digital team in 2008 was at the top

:53:31. > :53:39.table. It is not just a case of talking to the Facebook is and those

:53:39. > :53:44.on twitter. Activists across the country are kept on message. We are

:53:44. > :53:48.grassroots organisation with tens of thousands of volunteers. Part of

:53:49. > :53:53.what we want them to do is go out and evangelise through digital

:53:53. > :53:59.media. Equally important is for them to talk to people face-to-face in a

:53:59. > :54:02.cafe, with their family, in a pub or out of it for much. Our job is to

:54:02. > :54:06.make sure those people have the tools they need and the information

:54:06. > :54:12.they need to be able to carry on those conversations in an effective

:54:12. > :54:17.way. Around the country I have instruct IB comments made by young

:54:17. > :54:23.people. There are times when politicians attempts to use social

:54:23. > :54:27.media go horribly wrong. Gordon Brown's intervention on the expenses

:54:27. > :54:37.scandal through YouTube was ridiculed for being awkward and in

:54:37. > :54:42.effect live. Some candidates have said stupid rings online. It is

:54:42. > :54:52.keeping a sense of a new self online and remembering it is for ever so if

:54:52. > :54:54.you are not willing to stand by it then do not see it. Some see online

:54:54. > :55:00.campaigning as an alternative to off-line campaigning, knocking on

:55:00. > :55:07.doors to you and me. But they have to get the message to new groups of

:55:07. > :55:10.voters. It allows us to tailor our message to different audiences and

:55:10. > :55:17.measured exactly how they have responded to it so we can further

:55:17. > :55:21.polish our messages for people. Scotland and better together insist

:55:21. > :55:25.they are grassroots campaigns and the referendum be won and lost in

:55:25. > :55:33.online communities. With online networks playing a bigger part in

:55:33. > :55:41.people's lives, being a wireless battle to dwell the week to win.

:55:41. > :55:46.With me now is social media strategist. Thank you for coming in.

:55:46. > :55:51.I'll be any where near the Obama level of online campaigning? Even

:55:51. > :55:55.the level they were wrapped in 2008? Tell Michael I think both sides

:55:55. > :55:59.would love to see they are in the hope that this Obama magic would rub

:55:59. > :56:06.off on them but in terms of gathering data, the tools are very

:56:06. > :56:09.similar. If the tool is available in America it is easily sent over here.

:56:09. > :56:15.What all sides are missing is that what works in America does not

:56:15. > :56:20.necessarily work in Britain. In America, Obama had local

:56:20. > :56:23.fundraisers, people going round to each other was Mike houses, watching

:56:23. > :56:28.videos of Obama and leaving donations, I do not see anyone in

:56:28. > :56:37.Scotland rushing round to watch a video of Nicola Sturgeon or Alistair

:56:37. > :56:42.Darling, it is not the same sort of politics. What is the key for this

:56:42. > :56:49.kind of digital strategy? Equal is in the name, it is called social

:56:49. > :56:54.media. -- the clue is in the name. It is not just about broadcasting

:56:54. > :56:59.the message. For both sides being at close and cons. They want to put

:56:59. > :57:03.their message out there but the beauty of social media is companies

:57:03. > :57:07.coming back and changing things after listening to the audience.

:57:07. > :57:12.They are reaching out to communities asking what the issues are at a

:57:12. > :57:16.local level. The big problem is, neither side is going to back down

:57:16. > :57:23.on anything. They do not want to be seen as looking weak or indecisive

:57:23. > :57:27.or have the other side jump on them. Until we have a grown-up debate

:57:27. > :57:36.about that EDL we will be more or less broadcasting rather than true

:57:36. > :57:42.social media. -- about that easier. In this day and age politicians

:57:42. > :57:46.should remember they are servants of the people. They should he

:57:46. > :57:53.reflecting the desires of the people. If people want more taxes or

:57:53. > :57:56.better childcare the job of the politician is to turn around and

:57:56. > :58:02.respond to that. It has never been easier for the politician to the act

:58:02. > :58:09.to the electorate. They are trying to hard to shout at people and top

:58:09. > :58:16.down to them instead of seeing we will do one thing and by speaking

:58:16. > :58:26.across Scotland we will see it as a bigger issue. That shows real change

:58:26. > :58:28.

:58:28. > :58:31.and maturity online. In the US last night there was a method in twitter

:58:31. > :58:37.that you could access slightly longer tweets and get more

:58:37. > :58:42.information, what is the next big thing in social media? It ends on

:58:42. > :58:47.the generation. For geeks like myself it is fascinating. You have

:58:47. > :58:53.got people 25 and up to use Facebook, Twitter, blogs, they are

:58:53. > :58:58.day-to-day tools now, not to much new media, just the media day use.

:58:59. > :59:06.Youngsters are using tools that the average politician would not know

:59:06. > :59:10.what it meant. It is not one tool, this is where many people struggle.

:59:10. > :59:18.In days gone by a few appeared on shows like this or in the Herald or

:59:18. > :59:23.Scotsman the coverage was done. Now it is a multi-fragmented platform.

:59:23. > :59:30.The tools that need to be brought into day have to be used in weeks up

:59:30. > :59:36.to the election. It is still a year away. You do not know what will

:59:36. > :59:42.happen. The minute you win the election you start planning for the

:59:42. > :59:47.next one, this has been the longest one in history for people to know.

:59:47. > :59:52.With social media editors normally done quickly, 15 seconds, this is

:59:52. > :59:58.something where people have a real chance to build relationships over

:59:58. > :00:05.the long haul. You have to synchronise the online and off-line

:00:05. > :00:10.campaign? Yes, it is one big connected world now. Thank you for

:00:10. > :00:15.coming in to talk to us, really interesting to speak to you. Now you

:00:15. > :00:21.are watching Sunday politics Scotland, after the news it might be

:00:21. > :00:25.recess but that does not mean it has been a quiet week in politics. I

:00:25. > :00:33.will be joined by my guests from the Herald and times to discuss more

:00:33. > :00:36.about what has been in the news and a little sporting event that is

:00:36. > :00:45.coming up this afternoon. Now we have the news and Reporting

:00:45. > :00:49.Scotland. Good afternoon. The radical Muslim cleric Abu could had

:00:49. > :00:56.has arrived in Jordan after being deported from Britain. He has been

:00:56. > :01:06.taken to court in Amman this morning. That brings to an end eight

:01:06. > :01:08.

:01:08. > :01:16.years of legal wrangling. Applicant had on his way out of Britain. For

:01:16. > :01:19.years people have wanted to see this site but he frustrated them. A new

:01:19. > :01:26.decision meant he could be put on a plane to Jordan where he has twice

:01:26. > :01:31.been convicted in his absence of terror plots. I was absolutely

:01:31. > :01:37.delighted. This is something this government said it would get done

:01:37. > :01:42.and we have got it done. It is an issue that, like the rest of the

:01:42. > :01:46.country, it has made my blood boil. This man who had no right to be in

:01:46. > :01:52.our country and who was a threat to our country, that it has taken so

:01:52. > :01:55.long to deport him. Now he is back in Jordan, that is excellent news.

:01:55. > :02:02.Now the government wants to change the rules that made him so difficult

:02:02. > :02:05.to deport. They want fewer appeals in cases. You want a fundamental

:02:05. > :02:11.change in Britain's relationship with the European Court of human

:02:11. > :02:21.rights which the claim for delaying this case. One of the options would

:02:21. > :02:24.be to have nothing more to do with this court. We need to ensure we

:02:24. > :02:27.protect human rights and this country has a fine record in

:02:27. > :02:31.relation to the protection of human rights but we do want to make sure

:02:31. > :02:39.that when there is somebody in this country who is dangerous and who

:02:39. > :02:43.poses a threat, that we are able to remove them. With him finally landed

:02:43. > :02:48.in Jordan how best to achieve that balance will be contested and the

:02:48. > :02:54.world will watch to see whether he gets the fair trial here promised by

:02:54. > :02:58.the officials in Jordan and expected by British politicians. Place in

:02:58. > :03:04.Canada say they expect the number of casualties to rise after a tanker

:03:04. > :03:09.train was derailed and exploded in a small-town intubate. Dozens remain

:03:09. > :03:15.unaccounted for. More than 2000 people have been evacuated. The

:03:15. > :03:22.train was carrying crude oil when it apparently started to roll away

:03:22. > :03:28.after being parked by its driver. Andy Murray will attempt to win his

:03:28. > :03:33.second title this afternoon. All tickets have been sold but many

:03:33. > :03:37.queued overnight in the hope of watching the game on the big screen

:03:37. > :03:45.inside. That is all the news for the moment. We will have more news at

:03:45. > :03:51.half past seven tonight. Good afternoon. As you have healing Andy

:03:51. > :03:59.Murray takes on Novak Jaco bitch in the main's singles at Wimbledon

:03:59. > :04:07.tonight. -- Novak Jaco bitch. Our reporter was at the all England

:04:07. > :04:12.club. It is quickly -- pretty quiet year on centre court right now. Andy

:04:12. > :04:18.Murray will step out in front of 15,000 fans. If he wins he will make

:04:18. > :04:25.history. Standing in his way is the best player on the planet. The world

:04:25. > :04:35.number one has won most of his meetings. The last time they met it

:04:35. > :04:41.was Murray who took the honours. Labour leader Ed Milli band has

:04:41. > :04:46.dismissed rumours he wants to end their relationship between the party

:04:46. > :04:51.and the trade unions. First Minister Alex Salmond has accused Scottish

:04:51. > :04:54.Labour leader Johann Lamont of being silent on the issue while her party

:04:54. > :05:03.has imploded. has imploded.

:05:03. > :05:08.Time for the weather Dry bright and sunny across most of the country.

:05:08. > :05:18.Any cloud in the south tending to break. Slightly cooler further

:05:18. > :05:19.

:05:19. > :05:27.break. Slightly cooler further north. That is the forecast. I will

:05:27. > :05:37.now hand you back to Andrew. In a moment we will be discussing

:05:37. > :05:44.

:05:44. > :05:54.the big stories, but first let us its 65th anniversary this week. --

:05:54. > :05:56.

:05:56. > :06:05.the NHS celebrated. The MP Tom Watson left as the Labour

:06:05. > :06:13.general election court it. The right to buy council houses at a

:06:13. > :06:23.discount will be scrapped by 2017. Glasgow lost out in its bid to host

:06:23. > :06:24.

:06:24. > :06:32.the youth Olympic games 2018. We are proof that the men who died

:06:32. > :06:42.in July 1980 are not forgotten. The 25th anniversary of the Piper Alpha

:06:42. > :06:47.

:06:47. > :06:57.Labour's troubles in Falkirk have dominated the news and will no doubt

:06:57. > :07:00.

:07:00. > :07:04.play a big role in the week ahead. I am now joined by Lindsay McIntosh

:07:04. > :07:07.and Robbie Dinwoodie. Good afternoon. Thank you for joining me.

:07:07. > :07:17.We will get straight to the top story that is dominating the

:07:17. > :07:23.

:07:23. > :07:28.headlines. Ed Miliband is set on reform.

:07:28. > :07:38.It has been a disastrous week for Labour. It is not going away any

:07:38. > :07:48.time soon. The more that Ed Miliband wants to put this behind him the

:07:48. > :07:56.harder it gets because he is simply pushing the unions away. This is the

:07:56. > :08:03.labour movement. It is not easy to separate it out. Lord Reid was

:08:03. > :08:10.talking about this ideological divide earlier. It looks like this

:08:10. > :08:14.is a war that will continue. It is a battle for the soul of the Labour

:08:14. > :08:22.Party that is going on here. They have to modernise in order to see

:08:22. > :08:31.that's all. Labour has been successful in the past decade or so

:08:31. > :08:38.when they have taken a centrist approach. We cannot have this lurch

:08:38. > :08:45.back to union control. It is not going to fly. Do you think that Ed

:08:45. > :08:52.Miliband can mend the link with the unions? He has to make sure that

:08:52. > :08:56.more moderate trade union leaders are on his side. At the same time

:08:56. > :09:03.they have to be very weary of accepting everything that has

:09:03. > :09:07.happened and austerity because ordinary people are beginning to see

:09:07. > :09:13.that enough is enough. That is the two tensions that are pulling at

:09:13. > :09:17.him. We have been seeing a lot of Johann Lamont in the newspapers

:09:17. > :09:25.today. She has been portrayed as a puppet in the press. She has been

:09:25. > :09:30.quiet on this issue. We have not seen much of her in the past week.

:09:30. > :09:38.She has not come out on this issue at all. It is an issue for the UK

:09:38. > :09:42.party, but Johann Lamont has made much of the fact that she is in

:09:42. > :09:46.control of the Scottish party. We do need to see her upfront. I believe

:09:46. > :09:53.she is doing a lot behind the scenes, but she should come out and

:09:53. > :09:58.say that. Does this call her leadership into question? It does

:09:58. > :10:06.not call her leadership into question. That I am baffled by the

:10:06. > :10:10.tactics. If, as Labour claimed, she is at one with Ed Miliband on this

:10:10. > :10:15.and has been having conversations every step of the way, why has this

:10:15. > :10:25.statement is not reflected that? Why have not been comments issued in the

:10:25. > :10:33.

:10:33. > :10:43.name of Johann Lamont? For her to be completely silent strikes me.

:10:43. > :10:46.

:10:46. > :10:51.Headline about the Unite union. There is the review of the boundary

:10:51. > :10:56.Commission coming up. Jim Sheridan is portrayed as the man likely to

:10:56. > :11:06.take the seat. Labour spokesperson has said something that I even

:11:06. > :11:08.

:11:08. > :11:18.mention on here. United deny that anything untoward happens. This is

:11:18. > :11:26.not on the same scale as Falkirk at all. But the fact that they were

:11:26. > :11:34.willing to take on Alexander suggests that they are pretty

:11:34. > :11:38.confident and pretty keen to seize power of this party. The Unite union

:11:38. > :11:43.denied the allegation in the article. Are there are further

:11:43. > :11:53.problems ahead for its Miller band? There is talk of this happening in

:11:53. > :11:56.

:11:57. > :12:00.40 seats? If two constituencies had been merged then you should not be

:12:00. > :12:07.surprised that some people will side with one and some will side with

:12:07. > :12:17.another. What happened in Falkirk was different. Back in February

:12:17. > :12:17.

:12:17. > :12:24.there was bleated vote rigging. -- there was clear vote rigging. This

:12:24. > :12:30.is a controversy that is not going away.

:12:30. > :12:35.And what some may call and artists impression of Andy Murray. Perhaps

:12:35. > :12:42.history can be made this afternoon? It would be brilliant to have a

:12:42. > :12:48.Scottish winner, a British winner. It would be great. He deserves it.

:12:48. > :12:53.It is a brutal sport. It would be great if he did it. If he does not

:12:53. > :13:00.do it this time I think he and Novak Djokovic will dominate for the next

:13:00. > :13:08.few years. And I am sure your colleagues will be heading to

:13:08. > :13:14.Dunblane. It would be great to have a winner from there. They are very

:13:14. > :13:21.proud of him. Any political reverberations if a Scottish man

:13:21. > :13:31.wins Wimbledon? I doubt it. I am not a great believer that sporting

:13:31. > :13:31.

:13:31. > :13:38.events have a political knock-on effect. Are they not often tied in?

:13:38. > :13:45.Yes they are. Both sides try to make capital out of it. But we try to