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:00:43. > :00:51.Sunday politics. A momentous week for labour and the unions in the

:00:51. > :00:55.debate over party funding. We will bring Conservative and Labour

:00:56. > :01:01.representatives together to see if we can make progress. Do not hold

:01:01. > :01:07.your breath. You cannot blame the way on global warming, temperatures

:01:07. > :01:11.have stopped rising in the first -- last 15 years. As global warming

:01:11. > :01:19.really happening in the way that the scientific establishment claims, or

:01:19. > :01:28.as time to think again? And yet another ex-suspension crisis for the

:01:28. > :01:32.NHS this morning. -- existentialists. We will look at the

:01:32. > :01:35.politics of failure. And here in Scotland, with a year to go before

:01:35. > :01:45.the Commonwealth Games Village is filled with talented sports people,

:01:45. > :01:45.

:01:45. > :32:29.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1844 seconds

:32:29. > :32:38.are we doing enough to cash in on happening there, they are concerned

:32:38. > :32:42.about pollution from all power stations. There are many reasons.

:32:42. > :32:49.One of the great things about the way we are tackling climate change

:32:49. > :32:59.is that if you have actually cleaned up the energy, the atmosphere, that

:32:59. > :33:00.

:33:00. > :33:08.is not a regret. But the policies are expensive. Now they are not. I

:33:08. > :33:11.am happy to talk about the cost. number of scientists do not deny

:33:11. > :33:18.that CO2 emissions increased temperature, they are looking at

:33:18. > :33:28.whether it leads to such a quick rise in temperatures as the central

:33:28. > :33:28.

:33:28. > :33:36.forecast, 3% for this century. A professor at Leeds University claims

:33:36. > :33:42.that the higher temperatures are unlikely. Another from Oxford, they

:33:42. > :33:52.look unlikely. The Georgia Institute of technology, the models are too

:33:52. > :33:59.hot. Temperatures could remain flat for another two decades. My point to

:33:59. > :34:02.you as do you not want to step back and reconsider policy? If our

:34:02. > :34:11.policies were as expensive as you suggested we would obviously want to

:34:11. > :34:19.look at them. But you said it put �112 on peoples bills. I will give

:34:19. > :34:29.you the breakdown. The vast majority of that is tackling fuel poverty.

:34:29. > :34:30.

:34:30. > :34:37.Reducing energy bills long term. Only a small part of that �112 you

:34:37. > :34:47.mentioned, only a small amount is in subsidising renewable and low carbon

:34:47. > :34:48.

:34:48. > :34:56.energy. We are taking a rational, sensible, moderate approach. I do

:34:56. > :35:00.not deny that climate change will not follow the central forecast. But

:35:00. > :35:09.there is a range of scenarios. Just like forecasting inflation of

:35:09. > :35:18.growth. But lots of scientists are now saying that perhaps the more

:35:18. > :35:28.range is more likely. That is still scary. What would be the

:35:28. > :35:30.

:35:30. > :35:40.consequences for the UK of a rise in the one Celsius? Many people think

:35:40. > :35:42.

:35:42. > :35:50.that is down to claim it change. central forecast that you have

:35:50. > :35:59.proceeded on has been the IPC C forecast of 3%. Climate scientists

:35:59. > :36:09.are now claiming it would be 1%. What would be bad for Britain?

:36:09. > :36:10.

:36:10. > :36:18.few scientists are saying that. A tiny main oddity. -- minority. The

:36:18. > :36:21.vast majority are concerned that we will not hit the two degree target.

:36:21. > :36:28.All the projections that you are often about would go up of that.

:36:28. > :36:35.Frankly, two degrees would be a real step forward and reduce the amount

:36:35. > :36:42.of damage. A serious government looking at the science in an

:36:42. > :36:50.objective, neutral way, with take action. You would not gamble with

:36:50. > :37:00.the future of future generations. Nor would you rush to spend, �110

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:37:02. > :37:08.billion on wind power. You would take time to develop carbon storage.

:37:08. > :37:15.Proper battery storage so that wind power can be more. But instead, on

:37:15. > :37:22.the basis of forecast that may prove to be wrong you are continuing with

:37:22. > :37:30.an expensive and costly programme. disagree that it is as costly as you

:37:30. > :37:39.say. But we are developing energy storage to knowledge use. Not just

:37:39. > :37:49.batteries, but water, hydrogen. We have a whole range of policies and

:37:49. > :37:49.

:37:49. > :37:59.the idea that we are simply about offshore wind is a nonsense. If the

:37:59. > :37:59.

:37:59. > :38:04.plateau is still there by 2020, what will you say to me? I still think

:38:04. > :38:14.that the evidence suggests that if you look at rising heat in the

:38:14. > :38:16.

:38:16. > :38:23.oceans, the icecaps, rising sea levels... I am saying that you have

:38:23. > :38:33.taken a narrow approach. I am taking a way that approach. We have run out

:38:33. > :38:49.

:38:49. > :38:55.Advantageous zero. -- AdVantage sport. Can we capitalise on the

:38:55. > :39:02.success of Andy Murray? And where does the referendum debate lie?

:39:02. > :39:05.What'll happen when politicians return from their summer break?

:39:05. > :39:13.There are not many certainties in the leaves of sports persons. But

:39:13. > :39:19.here is one, politicians will attach themselves to your success. Just ask

:39:19. > :39:29.Andy Murray. But with the Commonwealth Games one year away,

:39:29. > :39:32.

:39:32. > :39:38.what more needs to be done? It was a victory that there is -- armed

:39:38. > :39:46.sporting immortality for Andy Murray. Familiar faces from the

:39:46. > :39:52.world of politics are joined in the rush to congratulate the champion.

:39:53. > :39:58.They are conscience that the -- conscious that the average man and

:39:58. > :40:05.woman pays attention to is what people in their achievements.

:40:05. > :40:09.Politicians naturally want to muscle in. In one year competitors will

:40:09. > :40:19.arrive at the hour surveillance in the East End of Glasgow for the

:40:19. > :40:23.Commonwealth Games. -- of the athletes village. Once the frenzy

:40:23. > :40:33.has gone away, to what extent is the relationship between politics and

:40:33. > :40:35.

:40:35. > :40:45.sport a two Way St? The answer is usually about legacy. Sport Scotland

:40:45. > :40:53.recently announced a �5.8 million in tennis. Not a bandwagon in this

:40:53. > :40:57.state, according to the sports minister. You do not come up with

:40:57. > :41:07.this in a few days, I can guarantee you will stop it has been a while in

:41:07. > :41:17.the planning. But there is nothing wrong in saying that we want a

:41:17. > :41:18.

:41:18. > :41:21.legacy from Andy Murray's victory at Wimbledon. He is a one-off. He has

:41:21. > :41:27.created a great environment for Scotland to build on but nothing

:41:27. > :41:35.more than that. Hard work remains to be done. That is where the

:41:35. > :41:45.government money is a start, but only a start. Alex Salmond was

:41:45. > :41:45.

:41:45. > :41:53.promoting club golf at the Scottish open. A sport in which another Scot

:41:53. > :41:58.has scaled the heights. 14 years after winning the open championship,

:41:58. > :42:08.does Paul Lawrie think that has ever very prompted sustained commitment

:42:08. > :42:15.to grassroots golf? Yes, to a certain extent. But it is difficult

:42:15. > :42:22.to keep going, to keep putting in money, whatever. But I think it is a

:42:22. > :42:32.lot better than it was. One former limping as more sceptical. --

:42:32. > :42:39.Olympic athlete. We must be certain that the fantastic venues, the use

:42:40. > :42:44.the as, that it is maximised. -- the enthusiasm. But we do not have that

:42:44. > :42:54.ability with the current system. There is more we could do to

:42:54. > :42:58.

:42:58. > :43:08.maximise things. Inspiring long-term change was as dated -- was the

:43:08. > :43:18.stated plan for the games. I am joined now by Brian Whittle, who we

:43:18. > :43:19.

:43:19. > :43:23.saw in the film. Andy Murray's victory was the end of 18 your

:43:23. > :43:33.journey. How do you characterise the relationship between politics and

:43:33. > :43:35.

:43:35. > :43:40.sport? -- a ten year journey. need politicians because they often

:43:40. > :43:50.find sport but they do not understand it quite as well as they

:43:50. > :44:00.should. -- fund. We need to be looking at decades long lines

:44:00. > :44:03.whereas politicians think in four-year cycles. -- plans. They

:44:03. > :44:13.know that they will not often be there to see things come to

:44:13. > :44:15.

:44:15. > :44:25.fruition. You were sceptical about the Olympic legacy. You said it was

:44:25. > :44:29.not working in the current system. What is the picture at the moment?

:44:29. > :44:35.am classed as being sceptical, but there are lots of fantastic things

:44:35. > :44:44.happening. But the Olympic legacy was to get so many millions of

:44:44. > :44:48.people involved in sport. The trouble is that the time came when

:44:48. > :44:55.the Olympics ended and these people tried and we did not have the actual

:44:55. > :45:00.capacity. We need to allow for children to come and at the ground

:45:00. > :45:10.level and get to where they get to. They are limiting factor should not

:45:10. > :45:10.

:45:10. > :45:14.be the systems that we have. -- the limiting factor. It is quite

:45:14. > :45:21.difficult for politicians to plan. Inspiration should come from parents

:45:21. > :45:28.and teachers. Absolutely true. Political intervention is not the

:45:28. > :45:35.only answer, it is a multifaceted answer. Parents are even more

:45:35. > :45:42.important than in my day because of the decline in sport at schools

:45:42. > :45:49.since the 1980s. Andy Murray typifies what is required to get to

:45:49. > :45:53.the very top. I had the great pleasure of chatting to his mother.

:45:53. > :46:03.The amount of commitment that the parents have, that is incredibly

:46:03. > :46:03.

:46:03. > :46:11.important. It took him ten years to become an overnight success! We need

:46:11. > :46:17.a multifaceted approach. If we are to help teachers inspire young

:46:17. > :46:27.people, you referenced the 80s, the teachers strike, do we need to put

:46:27. > :46:33.more money into school sports? think we do. I made a flippant

:46:33. > :46:38.comment last year, why don't we take all that money and teach teachers to

:46:38. > :46:46.do extracurricular sport? My introduction to sport was through

:46:46. > :46:53.school. That happens a lot less now. No, I know we cannot do that, but it

:46:53. > :46:59.was a thought just to start some debate. Sport in schools is not

:46:59. > :47:09.happening as much as you think at the moment. Andy Murray went away

:47:09. > :47:10.

:47:10. > :47:17.and fifth in the two practice sport. -- at 15. If there are other talents

:47:17. > :47:27.like that, as they are the capacity within Scotland to Hamas? I don't

:47:27. > :47:27.

:47:27. > :47:33.think so. -- to harness that. address that balance requires a

:47:33. > :47:39.long-term commitment. And the other reality is that you cannot get away

:47:39. > :47:49.from the weather. Some tournaments of that level, over here, would have

:47:49. > :47:50.

:47:50. > :47:56.to be endorsed. -- indoors. Do you think there are children who could

:47:56. > :48:05.be the next Andy Murray, who are not being spotted? Wasted opportunities,

:48:05. > :48:11.not being spotted by coaches? Without question. I have said this

:48:11. > :48:21.before, not forgetting that in recent times Scotland produced the

:48:21. > :48:23.

:48:23. > :48:30.Olympic 100 metres champion, we just have not moved on since Alan Wells.

:48:30. > :48:37.There are of there who could run as fast, we just have not taken

:48:37. > :48:46.advantage. It is the whole picture, parental intervention, etc. Andy

:48:46. > :48:56.Murray has eight calibre instinct that helped him rise to the top. --

:48:56. > :48:58.

:48:58. > :49:06.killer instinct. Is there anything that is in the national psyche that

:49:06. > :49:11.prevents that kind of success? don't think so. I think we have a

:49:11. > :49:19.chip on both shoulders! Given the opportunity, fantastic amount of

:49:20. > :49:27.talent in Scotland. School is out for summer. Holyrood has shot up

:49:27. > :49:32.shop. The referendum campaigns started just over one year ago. Both

:49:32. > :49:39.will work hard over this summer. Concept Ember, the one year

:49:39. > :49:49.countdown is on. So let's review a spectacular sunny finish. -- come

:49:49. > :49:58.

:49:58. > :50:03.for the wicked. Alex Salmond and Alistair Darling both made keynote

:50:03. > :50:10.speeches pushing positivity and criticising each other. Perhaps that

:50:10. > :50:16.encapsulate were the debate has set the summer. We gathered some views,

:50:16. > :50:25.two from each side, and this Conservative MP has warning about

:50:25. > :50:35.negativity. I said what I said because I believed it. We have two

:50:35. > :50:37.

:50:37. > :50:41.focus on issues of substance. I guess my concern is that we have led

:50:41. > :50:48.people to believe they will have all the facts before them before they

:50:48. > :50:53.vote but it is very clear they will not. One Labour MP is emphasising be

:50:53. > :51:02.positive about his campaign. It has been a great start to the campaign

:51:02. > :51:07.for the role UK side with the lead extended in the polls. There has

:51:07. > :51:12.been a recruitment of ambassadors for the UK case and that have been

:51:12. > :51:20.local groups set up around the country. Still a long way to go only

:51:21. > :51:27.there is no complacency but we have had good year. Good news in the

:51:27. > :51:33.polls for them. The Green Party are bedfellows in Yes Scotland than the

:51:33. > :51:38.palling is not yet raising any alarm bells. Many people are unconvinced

:51:38. > :51:45.but open-minded. The kinds of things that will inspire people to change

:51:45. > :51:50.their position is a debate dominated by big ideas and by a vision about

:51:50. > :51:59.the future of our society and what we want Scotland to be, rather than

:51:59. > :52:06.empty assertions on both sides. Perhaps a lack of certainty on both

:52:06. > :52:16.sides. A key moment in the autumn will be the prospectus for the

:52:16. > :52:17.

:52:17. > :52:20.independents. There will be a lot of arguments. The prospectus can lay at

:52:20. > :52:26.the detail of what an independent Scotland can achieve and from my

:52:26. > :52:30.point of view, once the white paper is published as the real starting

:52:30. > :52:38.point for the campaign because only then can we say this is what defence

:52:38. > :52:41.and wealthier band so one will look like. More arguments will give way

:52:41. > :52:45.to more arguments and the cycle will continue.

:52:45. > :52:48.If politicians lacks the summer, enjoy the break. With me now for the

:52:48. > :52:54.Yes Scotland campaign is Tasmina Ahmed Sheikh and for the other side,

:52:54. > :53:01.Better Together, is the Scottish Conservative MSP Annabel Goldie.

:53:01. > :53:06.Thank you for joining us. I want to look at positivity and negativity

:53:06. > :53:13.first of all. Two speeches this week board reported to be positive but

:53:13. > :53:19.were critical of each other. Alex Salmond was talking this week about

:53:19. > :53:23.the parcel of rogues on the other side. I believe that projects a year

:53:23. > :53:30.has been exposed and it started with mobile phone roaming charges and now

:53:30. > :53:36.it has moved on to the billions it would cost to get rid of Trident and

:53:36. > :53:43.again that has been exposed. It would cost less than to keep

:53:43. > :53:48.Trident. These tactics do not sit well with the people of Scotland and

:53:48. > :53:53.people do not like being frightened into adopting a certain position.

:53:53. > :54:00.People deserve the facts from all those involved in the campaign and

:54:00. > :54:03.we have been relentlessly positive and will continue to do so. Alex

:54:03. > :54:10.Salmond has constantly been critical of Westminster. We the positivity

:54:10. > :54:16.there? Westminster this completely out of touch with Scottish politics

:54:16. > :54:20.and despite the fact we have MPs at Westminster, when they bought their

:54:20. > :54:30.views are not taken into consideration. We have policies

:54:30. > :54:34.imposed on us without a will. -- oh well. We can be sure of two things

:54:34. > :54:37.in a Scottish parliament, that we always get the government we vote

:54:37. > :54:45.for and we will always act in the best interests of the people of

:54:45. > :54:50.Scotland. Too much negativity and scaremongering. We have even had

:54:50. > :54:55.that from one of your colleagues talking about how some stories were

:54:55. > :55:03.silly. It looked like Alistair Darling made a bit of a change

:55:03. > :55:06.trying to be positive? He made an important speech outlining positive

:55:06. > :55:14.aspects of what the pressures partnership actually means for many

:55:14. > :55:20.people in Scotland. That was a very good agenda to be pursuing. Just a

:55:20. > :55:25.back-up on what was just said they are, the figure about Faslane, that

:55:25. > :55:28.I believed to be the beer cost of creating the state and nothing

:55:28. > :55:34.whatsoever to do would be the beer cost of creating the state and

:55:34. > :55:40.nothing whatsoever to do with the enormous cost you cannot take one

:55:40. > :55:45.fact in isolation. There is this constant negativity particularly

:55:45. > :55:50.from Better Together but even when Alistair Darling was trying to be

:55:50. > :55:58.positive, he was characterising a national list interpretation of

:55:58. > :56:02.history as childish. They Trident caricature Better Together as

:56:02. > :56:08.projects via which is not something I recognise. It is more to do with

:56:08. > :56:16.public perception and I was campaigning as recently as Tuesday

:56:16. > :56:20.evening. Public reaction is positive with people from diverse political

:56:20. > :56:27.backgrounds who regard Better Together as presenting a positive

:56:27. > :56:37.case for the United Kingdom. We saw Patrick Harvie talking about a real

:56:37. > :56:37.

:56:37. > :56:46.vision. Do you think the leaders room for a big overarching vision on

:56:46. > :56:52.your side? Can I please clarify, Project sphere was a term borne out

:56:52. > :56:57.of the Better Together campaign and was exposed, not made up by others.

:56:57. > :57:02.We have always spoken of Scotland as something more fear and more

:57:02. > :57:08.democratic and that is something we take to the people of Scotland. We

:57:08. > :57:15.have found that when we give people the facts and when they are real but

:57:15. > :57:19.I really informed, they are much more disposed to vote yes. Our job

:57:19. > :57:25.is to make sure that every possible venue and every possible community

:57:25. > :57:32.be given the facts. The facts should be accurate. What is the big

:57:32. > :57:37.version? We are not used to having a vision but for the first time we

:57:37. > :57:42.will have control of what happens in our country and we can move beyond

:57:42. > :57:46.party politics and look at our vision. Because it transcends party

:57:46. > :57:54.politics and because people in Yes Scotland are from all parties and

:57:54. > :57:57.none, we can take everything they have to offer to the campaign. But

:57:58. > :58:05.allows us to take the campaign forward and take everyone's views

:58:05. > :58:13.into consideration. Is it hard for your side to Philly vision when it

:58:13. > :58:17.is the status quo? I think she reveals the difficulty. Everyone can

:58:17. > :58:23.have a vision but we need specifics and the specifics are what is

:58:23. > :58:32.missing. Alex Salmond's speech recently up north was very

:58:32. > :58:36.revealing. He has clearly stung by the yes campaign awareness that an

:58:36. > :58:44.awful lot of people in Scotland not only value the partnership but they

:58:44. > :58:54.like it and want to continue. He then said, that social union will

:58:54. > :59:01.remain along with the NATO union and the EU union. That is arrogant

:59:01. > :59:06.nonsense. In an independent Scotland your relationship with NATO will

:59:06. > :59:13.change. We no longer control the environment which determines levels

:59:13. > :59:18.of public spending and borrowing. It is pagan nonsense and a cynical ploy

:59:18. > :59:24.to cover up what the yes campaign is profoundly aware of, which is that

:59:24. > :59:30.they need to raise its game but it can't. Better Together when all is

:59:30. > :59:40.said and done has a better story to tell. The big story will be in the

:59:40. > :59:40.

:59:40. > :59:45.White Paper this autumn. There will be a lot of answers needed in that?

:59:45. > :59:54.And those answers will be forthcoming. Will be shredded to

:59:54. > :59:59.bits by your opponents? independence referendum includes

:59:59. > :00:02.everybody and it is right to the bait. We should not be afraid of

:00:02. > :00:08.having conversations and I have to take issue with Annabel Goldie's

:00:08. > :00:16.comments. It is a matter of absolute fact that the political and economic

:00:16. > :00:20.union is not working for Scotland. We have to do what is in the best

:00:20. > :00:25.interests for Scotland and I suppose the whole of the country. My parents

:00:25. > :00:34.live in London and it is ridiculous to suggest that those ties cannot

:00:35. > :00:44.continue. When it comes to the White Paper, Jackson Carlisle made the

:00:44. > :00:49.point that the public want answers. I can rip anything to shreds in

:00:49. > :00:54.anticipation and we need to see what the White Paper says. We now hear

:00:54. > :01:00.that Alex Salmond will be assisted by Scottish novelists in preparation

:01:00. > :01:06.which will take fiction to new levels. When it comes to really

:01:06. > :01:10.engaging with people, the Polish and Asian community were speaking on

:01:10. > :01:15.good morning Scotland saying they had not been engaged or contacted by

:01:16. > :01:21.the campaigns. What can we do to change that? That is not factually

:01:21. > :01:31.correct. I am a member of the Scottish Asians for independence

:01:31. > :01:31.

:01:31. > :01:39.campaign. How can we engage different communities?

:01:39. > :01:49.communication and grassroots communication. We will have to leave

:01:49. > :01:58.

:01:58. > :02:06.The julienne the United States has acquitted a neighbourhood watch

:02:06. > :02:15.volunteer of shooting dead a black teenager. He argued he acted in

:02:15. > :02:19.self-defence and the verdict has prompted some demonstrations.

:02:19. > :02:27.A dramatic conclusion to a trial that has captivated and divided this

:02:27. > :02:33.nation. George Zimmerman, a neighbourhood watch volunteer, never

:02:33. > :02:39.denied shooting dead Trayvon Martin but he said he did so in

:02:39. > :02:49.self-defence and the Julie agreed. As happy as I am, I am thrilled that

:02:49. > :02:55.

:02:55. > :02:58.this Julie -- jury get this tragedy from becoming a tragedy. Trayvon

:02:58. > :03:06.Martin was walking home when he was spotted by George Zimmerman sitting

:03:06. > :03:11.in his car convinced he was part of a gang targeting a local

:03:11. > :03:20.neighbourhoods. The prosecution said he proceeded and then provoked

:03:20. > :03:25.Trayvon Martin as he headed to this private apartment complex. There

:03:25. > :03:28.were no witnesses to the confrontation but a neighbour's

:03:28. > :03:38.called to the emergency services picked up cries for help followed by

:03:38. > :03:47.

:03:47. > :03:56.Trayvon Martin was dead. Instead of laying the matter to rest, there's a

:03:56. > :04:00.fear of the Julie's verdict may reopen old wounds.

:04:00. > :04:05.A firefighter has died and the second is being treated in hospital

:04:05. > :04:13.after they fired on Manchester city centre. It broke out in a

:04:13. > :04:19.hairdressing salon. Nearly 24 hours after the fire broke

:04:19. > :04:25.out on the other side of that building there. At 8:30pm last

:04:25. > :04:30.night, something happened, possibly an explosion, perhaps caused by the

:04:30. > :04:40.products stored there. Two firefighters had to be rescued and

:04:40. > :04:44.one died in the fire. He was 38 years old and a father of two.

:04:44. > :04:53.Greater Manchester police have arrested 215-year-old girls on

:04:53. > :05:03.suspicion of manslaughter. Police in Northern Ireland say that seven

:05:03. > :05:04.

:05:04. > :05:08.officers have an engine during a second mate of violence. -- night.

:05:08. > :05:18.An extra 400 officers from around the United Kingdom have been drafted

:05:18. > :05:23.

:05:23. > :05:28.into the province. More news on BBC One at 6:35pm. Offshore helicopter

:05:28. > :05:34.operators CHC have reassured staff about the safety of their craft.

:05:34. > :05:44.They were grounded in the wake of two Northsea etchings but given the

:05:44. > :05:48.

:05:48. > :05:51.all clear by aviation authorities are earlier this week. -- ditching.

:05:51. > :06:01.Thousands of people are enjoying another day of sunshine at T in the

:06:01. > :06:08.

:06:08. > :06:18.Park. About 85,000 people are attending. This evening, American

:06:18. > :06:25.

:06:25. > :06:35.rock group, the killers, will close in the way of cloud towards the west

:06:35. > :06:45.

:06:45. > :06:55.coast and far north. Warm in the political headlines of the week. But

:06:55. > :06:59.

:06:59. > :07:01.first: Ed Miliband said that Labour needed to lay on the lessons of this

:07:01. > :07:10.selection row and pledged to end automatic affiliation with union

:07:10. > :07:20.members. There were calls to bring forward the fuelling of the a name

:07:20. > :07:21.

:07:21. > :07:26.after a crash killed three people. -- dualling. A group of American

:07:26. > :07:31.politicians met at the Scottish Parliament. William Hague said that

:07:31. > :07:41.he meant no offence after appearing to call Cathy Jamieson a stupid

:07:41. > :08:01.

:08:01. > :08:11.recommended, MSPs could also see a Westminster will follow next week

:08:11. > :08:16.

:08:16. > :08:26.but it is still a easy time and politics. -- base. -- busy. I am

:08:26. > :08:26.

:08:26. > :08:32.joined by an SNP blogger and Spectator blog. Our top story today,

:08:32. > :08:42.the Sunday Herald, who will be the winners after the historic triumph

:08:42. > :08:51.of Andy Murray? What gained of legacy will we get? Hopefully we can

:08:51. > :09:01.build on the confidence. We need to back that up with investment and

:09:01. > :09:02.

:09:02. > :09:12.infrastructure. That will be very important, going forward. Putting in

:09:12. > :09:15.

:09:15. > :09:24.the grass roots work. Hopefully that can translate into real investment

:09:24. > :09:30.in tennis and other sports. We spoke to Brian Whittle in the programme.

:09:31. > :09:40.He was sceptical about legacies. Do you think that the Olympic legacy

:09:41. > :09:42.

:09:42. > :09:51.has come to fruition? No, but it cannot in just 12 months. But talk

:09:51. > :10:01.of legacy is a nonsense, really. Andy Murray as a one-off in many

:10:01. > :10:06.respects. In the same way that Roger Federer is a one-off. Doubtless more

:10:06. > :10:11.people in Switzerland play tennis, and doubtless more people will take

:10:11. > :10:17.it up in Scotland, but the notion that we will suddenly start

:10:17. > :10:22.producing a stream of champions is fanciful, and it is equally fanciful

:10:22. > :10:28.to suggest politicians can have any kind of impact on these things. Yes,

:10:28. > :10:34.it is less likely to waste public money when you spend it on sport

:10:34. > :10:40.than some of the other things it is spent on, and it would be a good

:10:40. > :10:44.thing if young children exercised more school, but if you want to talk

:10:44. > :10:52.about legacy, that is what is important. Not about a programme

:10:52. > :11:00.which will churn out champions. Maybe politicians do not have much

:11:00. > :11:04.impact, it is down to teachers and parents? I totally agree with that.

:11:04. > :11:11.Politicians can only look at the overall picture, which must be in

:11:11. > :11:13.formed by people on the ground. It has to be done from the bottom up.

:11:14. > :11:23.Investment going in on the basis of what they have been told from the

:11:23. > :11:33.autumn. Politicians and sport should kind of stay apart. They do not mix

:11:33. > :11:33.

:11:33. > :11:43.too well. With 14 months to go the independence campaign has already

:11:43. > :11:48.become a slanging match, according to the sun. We have seen speeches

:11:49. > :11:57.purporting to be positive this week which were actually quite negative.

:11:57. > :12:06.I don't know. Maybe it is correct that neither campaign is inspiring

:12:07. > :12:16.the people. The people remain defiantly unstamped by large parts

:12:17. > :12:17.

:12:17. > :12:22.of the campaign. -- unstirred. But by historical or international

:12:22. > :12:29.standards it has been a civil campaign thus far. I imagine that

:12:29. > :12:36.will change over the next 12 months but it has been modestly restrained,

:12:36. > :12:42.modestly civilised, and only modestly interesting! Natalie, do

:12:42. > :12:49.you think people are engaged? Patrick Harvie made that point in

:12:49. > :12:59.the film. We are seeing some more interest through the work that I am

:12:59. > :13:04.

:13:04. > :13:07.doing. But the walls are pretty static. -- polls. The No campaign

:13:07. > :13:12.have gone strong on aspects of that they think will hit people off

:13:12. > :13:18.independence. But they have not really shifted people away from

:13:18. > :13:27.independence. Whereas the Yes campaign have not been so successful

:13:27. > :13:30.chef in Kabul the other way. -- shifting people. But speaking to

:13:30. > :13:40.people on their doorsteps, I think it will be that kind of one-to-one

:13:40. > :13:46.conversation that is needed. That is all from us this week. We got off a