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:01:27. > :01:32.Sunday Politics in the South... One in three children living in poverty.

:01:32. > :01:42.All parties signed up to eradicate child poverty by 2020 but will they

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:01:42. > :31:15.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1773 seconds

:31:16. > :31:20.Hello, I'm Peter Henley, and coming up on the Sunday Politics in the

:31:21. > :31:23.South... Lord Coe said he wants the Olympic legacy to be about improved

:31:24. > :31:31.sports provision across Britain - but in Dorset, cuts to the county's

:31:31. > :31:35.sports budget make that look a bit of a non-starter. First, we will

:31:35. > :31:42.meet the two politicians that be will -- that will be with us for

:31:42. > :31:48.the next 20 minutes. You are on the defence Select Committee. You are

:31:48. > :31:52.off on a trip to the Falklands? later today. It is a routine visit.

:31:52. > :31:57.The committee has not been there for a long time and there is

:31:57. > :32:03.nothing provocative about it. is what they said about Prince

:32:03. > :32:09.William. I think whatever is being done now, Argentina is reacting

:32:09. > :32:16.hysterically, I think to very routine things. William is there to

:32:16. > :32:21.do a job. We are they to go and see things like the assets we have got

:32:21. > :32:27.out there. Nothing provocative about that. Allen, what do you

:32:27. > :32:31.think about the situation? It is terribly worrying on the south

:32:31. > :32:38.coast because of the history of the Navy had been to take down there

:32:38. > :32:43.before. It is different because of the presence in the Falklands and

:32:43. > :32:48.around it. That would deter any serious invasion attempt. But it is

:32:48. > :32:53.the sabre rattling. The general atmosphere and the closing of

:32:53. > :33:02.possible flights and shipping. that all coming from them or could

:33:02. > :33:08.we is back a little bit? -- pulled back. I do not think we will be in

:33:08. > :33:12.the situation that we were again. Argentina said they will not use

:33:12. > :33:19.military force and that they want a long-term change in the status of

:33:19. > :33:24.the islands. But the trouble is, you either say that the Falklands

:33:24. > :33:34.can go in one direction or another. Actually there is not that much

:33:34. > :33:36.

:33:36. > :33:41.room for negotiation. But that is about it. It is a bit of a dead end

:33:41. > :33:46.as far as the present situation is concerned. You will be checking on

:33:46. > :33:50.the defence facilities. Are you happy or have you got questions?

:33:50. > :33:55.That is a routine part of our job. We go to all parts of the world

:33:55. > :33:58.where we have got military assets. But the problem with the last

:33:58. > :34:03.Falklands war was that we were almost encouraging dialogue with

:34:03. > :34:09.Argentina. We are not doing anything provocative. We have had a

:34:09. > :34:14.very gentle debate and we have in fact praised servicemen that died

:34:14. > :34:20.in Argentina. We are doing a job and we have got to have a firmer

:34:20. > :34:24.line and that is not up for Four million children are living in

:34:24. > :34:26.poverty in Britain. That's one in three - one of the highest rates in

:34:26. > :34:29.the developed world. Tomorrow night's Inside Out has been filming

:34:29. > :34:38.on one estate in Southampton with families that really know what

:34:38. > :34:44.those statistics mean. My daddy worries about the bills and us

:34:44. > :34:49.children and it is a bit hard with the parents. I go without said that

:34:49. > :34:53.the children can have things, basically. It is getting harder

:34:53. > :34:58.because the price is going up. We are talking about cutting benefits.

:34:58. > :35:03.I have got to do that for the best of my family and that is what I am

:35:03. > :35:08.here for. I hope they will grow up in a good way, get good schools and

:35:08. > :35:14.good jobs and I do not want them to become part of the benefit

:35:14. > :35:19.dependency. Not everybody pays their rent and we have got to pay

:35:19. > :35:23.rent and we need food. We got a call from the housing office saying

:35:23. > :35:30.that it is more important to put a brick on your head than feed your

:35:30. > :35:40.children and I am saying it is not. -- CROWD SINGS on your head.

:35:40. > :35:43.

:35:43. > :35:48.Is it getting worse? Are people really feeling the pinch in ways

:35:48. > :35:53.that you cannot measure rather than people are just not having enough

:35:53. > :35:57.money and not getting a job? Yes, things are getting worse and

:35:57. > :36:02.families are struggling to make ends meet. The bills are going up

:36:02. > :36:09.week by week. Electricity, gas, water. It takes money away from

:36:09. > :36:13.what they would normally spend on family life. When you see children

:36:13. > :36:18.with expensive trainers, trips to McDonald's, flat-screen televisions,

:36:18. > :36:25.do you think they could economise a bit more? You must think that

:36:25. > :36:27.sometimes. Sometimes you might think that, yes. But we do not

:36:27. > :36:34.often nowhere beats that screen televisions and trainers have come

:36:34. > :36:39.from. You would be surprised what you can get from charity shops and

:36:39. > :36:45.organisations supporting you. it is a pressure to get these

:36:45. > :36:50.things for children, apart from anything else. And also, I heard

:36:50. > :36:53.one of the fathers saying that they tried to keep up appearances. The

:36:53. > :36:58.children want to go to school and say, we have not got any money

:36:58. > :37:03.problems when they are not getting enough to eat. Children are quite

:37:03. > :37:06.escheat. They understand when mummy and daddy are struggling. They

:37:06. > :37:12.understand when purse strings are getting tighter but they do not

:37:12. > :37:16.want to admit that two friends. You are open to all sorts of bullying.

:37:16. > :37:22.Well, not bullying, but comments being made and children do not want

:37:22. > :37:27.that. They want to be like their friends. And an awful lot of people

:37:27. > :37:30.are packed into housing that is not good enough. There are families

:37:30. > :37:34.packed into a two-bedroom flats that are waiting for bigger houses

:37:34. > :37:41.and we have obviously not got enough housing stock for all of

:37:41. > :37:44.them to be housed appropriately. You are doing what you can but I am

:37:44. > :37:50.sure the politicians can help. would be wonderful if they could

:37:50. > :37:54.give a bit of a hand to some of these families. What would you say

:37:54. > :37:59.to these two? One Conservative and one Labour. Labour have been in

:37:59. > :38:04.power for a long time before. think about the children. It is

:38:04. > :38:09.easy to blame the parents and the adults. But actually, they do not

:38:09. > :38:15.necessarily suffer as much. It is the children who supper. Some of

:38:15. > :38:18.these people are right to go to people that are defrauding but a

:38:18. > :38:23.lot of families are not defrauding and are being penalised and the

:38:23. > :38:27.children suffer. It is tough, isn't it? You are bringing in welfare

:38:27. > :38:34.changes to get people back to work but he will hit innocent people,

:38:34. > :38:41.would you not? First of all, we are going to try and lift three and and

:38:41. > :38:48.50,000 families out of poverty by introducing the Universal credit. -

:38:48. > :38:54.- 350 thousand. You get weeks where people are not getting money and it

:38:54. > :39:01.is pretty chaotic. We are having won at Universal credit which will

:39:01. > :39:06.simplify the benefit system dramatically. The other thing it is

:39:06. > :39:10.making work really paid. The average income for a household in

:39:10. > :39:15.Portsmouth is actually less than the benefit cap we are proposing.

:39:15. > :39:20.We have got to get back to having a giggle bit of perspective and to

:39:20. > :39:26.really make certain that it is not about people being lazy. -- a

:39:26. > :39:35.little bit. We need to encourage that behaviour and that is what we

:39:35. > :39:39.are tackling. Do you see it that way? The latter part of the Bill is

:39:39. > :39:45.extraordinary, frankly in terms of saying that benefits are going to

:39:45. > :39:52.be capped so people will get into work. That work pays. Of coursework

:39:52. > :39:57.should pay. But work needs to be there in order to do that. Secondly,

:39:57. > :40:01.what I think the Bill completely is missing as far as child poverty is

:40:01. > :40:06.concerned is that these families normally live on a very marginal

:40:06. > :40:11.cash economy and a small matter of change in the cash coming into

:40:11. > :40:15.household can have a devastating effect. The sort of changes that

:40:15. > :40:22.are going through the housing benefits where these are encamped

:40:22. > :40:26.at a level that would probably put a number of people into homes and

:40:26. > :40:32.that is putting pressure on local authorities and destroying the

:40:32. > :40:36.family fabric. They cannot cope with that situation. We might

:40:36. > :40:42.actually spend more money as far as welfare is concerned as a result.

:40:42. > :40:47.This could be more expensive? have got transitional arrangements

:40:47. > :40:51.in place. A lot of things that are wrong with the current system is

:40:51. > :40:56.that you have got a big dropping off point. If you work more than a

:40:56. > :41:01.certain number of hours per week, you get clobbered with benefits. We

:41:01. > :41:08.are trying to get away from that and have a gentle running him to

:41:08. > :41:12.the new regime. But we have got to change the way we operate. One of

:41:12. > :41:16.the fathers in that clip said he did not want his children to be in

:41:16. > :41:20.a benefit trap. We have got to change dramatically how welfare

:41:20. > :41:26.works. We have got to provide support for people to get them into

:41:26. > :41:33.work and stop form-filling and box ticking and courses. We need to get

:41:33. > :41:38.them into a job. And you are saying the jobs are not there? People are

:41:38. > :41:42.trying to get jobs and state into jobs and one of the things the last

:41:42. > :41:46.government did was change the circumstances under which people

:41:47. > :41:54.are supported when they are in the process of getting into a job so

:41:54. > :41:58.that job is secured and Family Finance is secured. The problem is

:41:58. > :42:02.how you change family circumstances so they can think of getting into

:42:02. > :42:06.work and staying in to work but at the same time, not making it

:42:06. > :42:12.difficult for them by capping benefits and making them possibly

:42:12. > :42:19.worse off than before. Good luck with all your work with these

:42:19. > :42:22.And you can see the rest of that film on Inside Out tomorrow night

:42:22. > :42:25.at 7.30pm on BBC 1 With less than six months to the Olympics, it's

:42:25. > :42:27.probably not too early to be wondering what legacy the Games

:42:27. > :42:30.will leave behind. We've been promised better facilities and

:42:30. > :42:40.increased participation, but as Tristan Pascoe reports from Dorset,

:42:40. > :42:42.

:42:42. > :42:46.for some the legacy will be gold, England has taken the silver!

:42:46. > :42:50.want local provision for people to have the opportunity to experience

:42:50. > :42:57.sport. Not necessarily at the highest level but to have habits

:42:57. > :43:02.and patterns in sport. Lord Coe in 2006. In 2012, investment in local

:43:02. > :43:07.sport is in the two camps, the hounds and have-nots. You can

:43:08. > :43:15.almost smell the investment in Portsmouth. 60 million spent on the

:43:15. > :43:18.Sailing Academy behind me. -- �16 million. �26 million spent on the

:43:18. > :43:24.marina. A cross the water behind me from where the events will take

:43:24. > :43:29.place would be sailing, �3 million worth of an observation platform

:43:29. > :43:33.and more than �90 million spent on a relief road bringing people into

:43:33. > :43:40.Weymouth and Portland. Loads of money for high profile Olympic

:43:40. > :43:47.sailing events but what about other sports? Swanning, for example?

:43:47. > :43:52.would be wonderful if we could at investment. -- swimming. We could

:43:52. > :43:58.teach them not just to compete but to save lives and also unique to be

:43:58. > :44:05.able to swim before saving. But the money is not step. County Council

:44:05. > :44:11.funding has been slashed by 11 %. The sport but it has always been

:44:12. > :44:18.very small inside the county council. It is all to encourage and

:44:18. > :44:24.facilitate groups in order to work together and bring down external

:44:24. > :44:31.funding. Easier said than done. This is the aim of Weymouth at Les

:44:31. > :44:35.Six Club. -- Weymouth athletics club. It is hardly surprising that

:44:35. > :44:40.many local athletes are having to travel hundreds of miles away and

:44:40. > :44:47.trained elsewhere. They are not likely to produce the next Jonathan

:44:47. > :44:51.Edwards it. All of his children are athlete but because of poor local

:44:51. > :44:56.conditions, they train many miles away from home. We would love some

:44:56. > :45:01.funding to get a proper track laid. Nothing fancy. Just the bare

:45:01. > :45:06.minimum and then people can train and schoolchildren can use it. Lots

:45:06. > :45:10.of people come here every year and it is dependent on these facilities.

:45:10. > :45:15.The atmosphere is fantastic and the children love it and it would be

:45:15. > :45:21.great to carry that arm. The ABS had said they are delivering on the

:45:21. > :45:27.Olympic legacy. We have been using this facility to get young people

:45:27. > :45:30.into sailing. You can sail for a cheap programmes. We have had 9,000

:45:30. > :45:36.people in the water for the first time. I am very confident that we

:45:36. > :45:40.will have a long-term legacy. is well and good for the next

:45:40. > :45:47.generation. But what about other sports locally? Is a reduction in

:45:47. > :45:51.future funding the real Olympic legacy in south Dorset? It is not.

:45:52. > :45:57.The legacy is that people will be working very closely together with

:45:57. > :46:04.communities and various groups. We have kept the funding in place for

:46:04. > :46:08.the staff this year to give us time to make sure we can work with

:46:08. > :46:16.communities in order to continue the work that historically, we have

:46:16. > :46:21.always done. No cash for community facilities them? What about this?

:46:21. > :46:26.Is was given to us by the relief fund and that is supposed to be the

:46:26. > :46:30.legacy. They have lost what the Olympics is all about. They got the

:46:30. > :46:35.site on Portland but they have lost it elsewhere. They are

:46:35. > :46:42.concentrating on the ceiling and not much on anything else. --

:46:42. > :46:52.sailing. However well the team does, Lord Coe's hopes that more people

:46:52. > :46:53.

:46:53. > :46:58.will get a taste for sport are A bit hit and miss? More than that.

:46:58. > :47:02.We have always got a balance between what you do for Olympic

:47:02. > :47:06.sports and community sports but actually they are linked. Unless

:47:06. > :47:10.children get a good deal for Sport and wants to get enthusiastic and

:47:10. > :47:18.go to the next stage, where are the elite sports coming from? That is

:47:18. > :47:25.the problem. And learning to swim could save a life? Absolutely. You

:47:25. > :47:31.have got to find ways of funding these projects. When it swimming

:47:31. > :47:39.was pulled in Portsmouth, a company's debt him and enabled that

:47:39. > :47:42.to be funded. -- stepped in. One hospital was built under private

:47:42. > :47:50.finance initiative and it has got a swimming pool which any staff can

:47:50. > :47:54.use at the moment. Only staff?! That is correct. But actually it

:47:54. > :47:59.could be used for other things and I am very pleased to say the

:47:59. > :48:04.hospital is considering opening the doors to do that facility to local

:48:04. > :48:11.schools. We have got to make better use of what we have got and we have

:48:11. > :48:14.got to bring in extra money. This Now, our regular round-up of the

:48:14. > :48:24.political week in the South in 60 seconds and this week, it's all

:48:24. > :48:26.

:48:26. > :48:33.Fed up with theft of lead from church roofs and a thunderbolt from

:48:33. > :48:38.on high? Insurers are providing free alarm systems. We had

:48:38. > :48:43.activated the alarm system. Street lamps are too bright, according to

:48:43. > :48:48.some local people. They put off burglars but to save electricity,

:48:48. > :48:52.councillors agreed to turn some damp. Theresa May said a balance

:48:52. > :48:58.must be struck with the rowing lake in Berkshire between security and

:48:58. > :49:05.excitement. We need to ensure security but enable the invent to

:49:05. > :49:10.be enjoyed. HMS victory. The MoD confirmed they are thinking of a

:49:10. > :49:15.change of ownership while keeping the tight ship as a Second Sea Lord.

:49:15. > :49:19.98 doggy detectives are being taken on by the Wiltshire police. Eight

:49:19. > :49:29.local officer spotted the way that dogs and walkers can sniff out

:49:29. > :49:31.

:49:31. > :49:37.Volunteers and fresh men and these dogs have not had any proper

:49:37. > :49:42.training! But anyway, we will leave that to one side. But what about

:49:42. > :49:48.the bright lights of Hampshire being dimmed? I suppose you're a

:49:48. > :49:51.campaign for energy-saving. Well, they can be dimmed a little bit,

:49:51. > :49:58.they do not have to be and that is a good thing because that saves a

:49:58. > :50:06.lot of energy. One of the bigger risks is that at the base., which

:50:06. > :50:09.way do the lights face? -- based point. They are usually pointing

:50:09. > :50:15.towards the road and dealing with traffic. Maybe if you turn them

:50:16. > :50:19.around and they were not facing the road? Dimming the lights at night

:50:19. > :50:24.as they stand at the moment is a good thing and it will probably not

:50:24. > :50:29.have a great effect on burglary or anything else other than saving a

:50:29. > :50:35.lot of energy. Looking at low- energy light bulbs and where the

:50:35. > :50:43.lights are facing might be the factors of the future. Victory? It

:50:43. > :50:47.does not matter, yes or no? should be a flagship. But not

:50:47. > :50:51.having it just funded by the defence budget and opening it up to

:50:51. > :50:58.other sources, like the teacher will be more secured and it will be